Hail the Dude Wall Edition>Hotfix 13.1 patch notes:https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/400-hotfix-13-1-patch-notes>Update 13.0 patch notes:https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/395-patch-notes-13-0>May Community updatehttps://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/404-may-community-update>Updated Year 2 Roadmap:https://i.imgur.com/p9UAyjJ.jpeg>Where to get the game:https://www.focus-entmt.com/en/games/warhammer-40000-space-marine-2>Lore Stuff:https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Pagehttps://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Main_Page>For jolly cooperation with your battle brothers (Can also post codes for jolly coop/PvP. Edit Squad -> Invite Menu):https://steamcommunity.com/groups/sm2general>Workaround with matchmaking (not finding players, only 2/3):Back out to the main menu and re-enter battle barge.>Workaround with matchmaking (defaults to waiting for players instead of looking for games)Queue for siege mode, leave the lobby and re-queue for operations.>Datasheet showing hidden difficulty modifiers for each difficulty (for easier damage reference):https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1kVvYgDBoAan98W3IjAM6ERdq-QfkCsaVvXKF5g_Q9sU/htmlview>Spreadsheet useful for damage calculation:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HzX5LzOD8NZyOTV-BUyL8kWoLEpt-skM/>Recommended prestige perks:https://i.imgur.com/vHSeEDt.jpeg>/sm2g/ Dude Wall - Compilation of Dudes:https://dudewall.github.io/dude-wall/>/sm2g/ Phantom Links Chapter Lore:https://rentry.org/ChroniclesofPhantomLinks>Other useful links:https://pastebin.com/VZ0ryCNBPreviously on the Battle-Barge: >>2528900
Man why do I have such a hard time getting into this game?It looks awesome, it's warhammer 40k, it's getting great support, feels good to play, etc yet I just can't get myself to play it after finishing the campaign. What am I doing wrong?
>>2557630New enemy units doko?
I like the Sniper.>Sniper is badYes, but it's fun to blap venom cannon NIDDERS or incapping Rubrics harassing the boysIn a way, you take away the most obnoxious enemies so the bros can have fun>Sniper has no team perksYeah I know but it's fun and I'm bored of tactical
>>2557649Literally anything. Just add literally anything new. Maybe a handful of a third faction.>tfw you will never round a corner, hear the revving of a chain axe and BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GODKhornate Berserkers that can parry YOU
>>2557676>Tyranids>Orkz>KhorneLiterally the dream SM3>Mindless horde (SCREEEEEEE)>Mindless horde (WAAAAAGH YA GITZ GET DEM SPESS MUHREENS)>Maybe intelligent horde (NYAHAHAHA WRBLRBLRBL BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD)
>>2557648You literally just select the difficulty you're comfortable with and click random mission, or join the boys when a lobby is posted though you're probably going to get clowned on doing Absolutes, anons are happy to carry newfriends
>>2557649They've got so factions many to choose from. Chaos undivided would've been best if only for a wider selection of enemies they could put in SM3.I'd love to see Ork boyz, and some Khorne dudes. Sprinkle a few units from other factions (maybe necron if they aren't too much like T'sons) like in pic related and we're golden/>inb4 hurr durr this picture is shit because muh TT vs game balanceI don't have a better unit graph with minoris-terminus catergories, so calm your tits.
>>2557655With release of heroic sniper rifle it became decent. If you can land those sick quickscope headshots. Basically if you can parry + headshot and gunstrike you'll go long way.
>>2557700All my knowledge comes from first dawn of war game and two space marine games so i thought that necron warrior is like space marine in terms of power henceforth majoris..
>>2557700Pic related is fine but could use a refresh otherwise, either add chaos undiv. like you mentioned or just Khorne.My vote would also be for Orkz/Nids/Melee-oriented chaos. I've space dust pinatas fatigue.
>>2557700If anyone wanted to update it this is what Saber could entertain if they (hopefully) go with Khorne:Minoris:>Cultists>Goremongers (flying cultists)>Jakhals (berserker cultists)>Flesh houndsMajoris:>Bloodletters>Berzerkers >Chaos spawnExtremis:>Exalted Eightbound>Bloodcrusher>Skull CannonTerminus:>Helbrute (red)>Defiler>Lord on JuggernautOperation boss:>Daemon Prince of Khorne>Lord of Skulls>Maulerfiend/ForgefiendNo more voiceless shells!
Thread fortified
>>2557786Good, Brother.
>>2557655The fact that sniper can delete zoans, neuros and other flying cunts is a blessing and I will always welcome a good sniper in my team. I can deal with the brawlers better if I have a brother keeping the sky clean
>>2557630It feels like we are too slow for /vg/, but too fast for /vm/. At least so soon after update>>2557700I think using Eldar as enemies would be a waste at best and at worst they would be really annoying to fight with their kiting bullshit. Ideal SM3 would look like this>All SM2 content gets ported, including all maps. I don't want to be forced to keep SM2 installed with map and enemy variety being arbitrarily locked to it, just like I don't need L4D when L4D2 exists.>SM2 campaign is reworked so it works like Operations with classes and AI director>SM3 campaign and Operations are one and this same and work like Operations>Tyranids and TSons come back expanded similar to how Rats in VT2 came back expanded. At the very least make what should be easy additions like Screamer Killer and different versions of Carnifexes to fight. Or Von Ryan Leapers as new Majoris. Or Deathleaper as Terminus>New enemy factions are Orks, Necrons and either Red Corsairs or Word Bearers for Undivided representation>SM, CSM and eventually Eldar as playable factions>SM and CSM have explicitly different classes and gear and aren't reskins of each other>For loyalists lean into Primaris, yes. Get rid of those current weird classes. Let us select from Phobos, Tactics, Gravis and Terminator classes. Iron Halo, Jump Pack, Teleporter, Auspex etc are now selectable gear DoW2 style. Some restrictions still apply, no Cameleoline Cloak or Reiver hook for Gravis and Teminator obviously (but you can give them hook to pull enemies to them)>CSM have Undivided Legionary and then God marked classes like Plague Marine with their own gear instead of 1:1 of Loyalist stuff.>If Eldar are third playable faction, make their classes into Autarch, Warlock, Harlequin, Corsair Felarch.>Replace with sidesteps and dodges and remove all rolling from Marine classes and give it to space elves instead, it fits them being space weebs after all.
>>2557809>Playing anything but space marines in a game called Space Marine 3
>>2557809Nigger this isn't Eternal Crusade.I'm still mad yes.
>>2557809We are not too fast, the forces of the Imperium are just too overwhelming for this sectorSeriously though, there is no other option, /vg/ is a cesspit, over here we have a comfortable spot to do our thing without bothering anyone, it's all good
new to /sm2g/, how the hell did the previous thread reach 1.7k replies and is still only on page 8? it doesn't seem THAT active, and the other generals i browse reach 800-850 replies at best on page 10
>>2557915We're still a general from /vg/ but don't have anywhere near the shitposting, ritualposting, waifufaggotry, autism, and content updates required to keep up with gacha games to compete, and rightfully so.
>>2557927wait what the fuck, i swear i searched for "space marine" on /vg/what the hell, how did i end up here
>>2557935The Emperor guided your hand, Brother.
>>2557935That's just Warp shenanigans, don't worry about it.
I swear they fixed Macragge Blue to the correct shade and did not tell anyone, am I seeing things
>Sunday>6pm BST>Go to try PvP for the first time in months>Helbrute Onslaught>Fucking nobody, stuck queuing with six other people for ten minutes before giving upJesus Christ why even bother supporting this mode?
What perks for this? For vanguard
>>2557954Nah they confirmed that they did change the color.
>>2557935Stop asking questions, pick up the shovel.
>>2557967I must have missed it then, glad they did, finally my blueberries look proper without using other colors
>>2557954>DoW had you pick colors manually back in the day>Year of Our Lord 2026 and there's still no color slider in sightYeah, I know otherwise DLCs and paid drip-fed content wouldn't sell. It's still a shame tho. Same with emblems instead of emblem editor.>but muh dicks and swastikas!lol, i'd just laugh and shrug at the mushroom marine doing the salute
>be me, a few days back>still grinding vanguard>load into game with assault and heavy>assualt is not prestiged>watch him fly up in the air and then eat shit immediately twice
>>2557961All anybody played is Helbrute mode and it sucks ass, because the moment someone decent gets on the Helbrute it's over, it snowballs out of control.
>>2557965None, it's objectively worse than the carbine in every way
>>2557832>>2557840Memes aside, I don't believe devs should slavishly stick to SM simply because trivial stuff like game title is Space Marine. Actual game would benefit greatly from more content and variety which in 40k comes from plethora of different factions it has, both to play as and to murder. To waste this potential because of a game title is downright insane and autistic to me. It was already annoying that first game didn't have Orks playable.Actually, this game doesn't really feel like Space Marine game to me to begin with. This glass cannon playstyle with constant dodging and parrying enemy attacks is not at all what I imagine Space Marine fantasy should be. It looks as off as that older now Hours Heresy fananimation, Death of Hope. But it is EXACTLY how I image Eldar would fight. This game feels like an accidental Eldar game with a Space Marine skin on top.Making Space Marines more tanky and focusing on Block weapons would be more fitting for marines imo. They should feel like aggressive, walking tanks. Make them shrug off enemy attacks and hit strongly in return. This is how they look in DoW2 imo and they look great there.Eldar should be prancing around, rolling on ground, parrying and countering enemy attacks in swashbuckling style and hoping to not get hit instead
>>2557980Assault requires to have hands to be played well, many random players fail this simple requirement
>>2557993>Actually, this game doesn't really feel like Space Marine game to me to begin with. This glass cannon playstyle with constant dodging and parrying enemy attacks is not at all what I imagine Space Marine fantasy should be.I agree, but i want them to stop being retarded and make an actual SM game.
>>2557961Quick Match or bust. Picking modes specifically, even with enough players active, just dumps you in unfilled lobbies.
are there any must get weapons you can get with the blue dorrito chips? The grenade launcher bolter combo seems alright, maybe one of the melee weapons?
>>2558110Deathwatch Heavy Bolt RifleArgent EdgeDeath's GraspWhite Scars Chainsword if you like BlockWrapped Bolt Sniper RifleHeavy Plasma Incinerator (forgot the special name)
>Board gets 1 post a day>You idiots still fuck up making threads
>>2558149
>>2557992Holy fuck, it's actually such a dogshit. I was better shooting with heavy bolt pistol.Vanguard is in a such weak state.There is no good primary. Melta have no ammo and a minute reload time, carbine is shit without kraken rounds, this thing is just dogshit. Melee is purely reactive on power axe with barely enough damage to kill majoris.Average lobby will prevent you from doing funny thing with chain grapple.
>>2558154If steam allowed different nickname for different games that would be my nickname in this one.
>>2558154>>2558167I ran into a guy using that name a few days ago. He was quite possibly the worst player I've ever seen in any video game.
>>2558174Roleplay requires dedication
>be me>been playing since launch>get bored but mostly frustrated with keybinds made by russians>switch them so that they resemble something a human being would come up withI love my Naga Pro but fuck how did default key settings made any sense? Is that a russian thing?
>>2558193>cont'd because I'm tired as fuck and posted by accidentI like the new binding under my thumb but man is muscle memory a bitch. It will take some getting used to before I can comfortably use it. Thank God vatniks finally added training sim.
>>2558161Also muscle memory after waving after first parry kills me.
>ultramarine>keeps pointing everywhere like he doesn't realize we have played the map before>takes all the ammo after a desperate fight>he's an assault>takes the geneseed>refuses to heal (he has two stimpacks)>loses the sneed at the finishing line
>>2558262>refuses to heal (he has two stimpacks)I really do not understand this
>>2558294If you double heal after going down, it'll clear your mortal wound. Stimming prior to this point is in most instances a waste unless there's a fuckton of enemies and you're sure nobody can get you up.
>>2558302I know how this works. But I don't understand why are people so stingy with using it. I keep seeing people dying with medpacks all the time. They don't even heal themselves when they are on a mortal wound. It's absolutely puzzling behavior to me because it griefs the rest of a team
>>2558320I might need it later really badly, so I better save it for that moment.
>>2557995Not having the invulnerability prestige perk is just shit thoughI don't blame him for it, it was literally>press Q>before he is able to land a carnifex/venom cannon starts an attack animation, charges up, and blasts him to pieces
Comfy absolute runs - EUYDTK6Come on in Brothers.
>>2558387Ultramarine gang calls to war
>>25583872/3
>>25583873/3
>>2558395Give them hell Brothers, I will be with you in spirit
>>2558387>>2558395Good work Brothers!
>>2558551Yeah fast clearI'm leaving to join other 40k gaming with some IRL friends
How's Techmarine in PvP anyway?
>>2558387Another one : HDDAD
>>2558649On my way
>>2558649Full.
>>2558649Thank you for the game Brothers. We gave that chaos filth what it deserved.
>>2558832We made rain death
>>2558857good pic
>>2558857
5VSPCComfy games with the bros, levelling my tech marineIt's kind of a fun class, but having a free gun strike is kinda throwing me off
>>2558923sector of the imperium?
>>2558941EUnfortunately
>>2558923>>2558945I will join you in 5
>>2558949No rush, brother. I am trying to think of what a Great Crusade WEater tech marine would look like.
>>25589232/3
>>2558923I can hop in for one if there's room Brothers.
>>2559033>>2559018Full! For now, I'll probably do 2-3 missions myself.
>>2558960must be full now. good luck
>Join mission in progress>Neutrothrope and a billion majoris up>Start raping the majoris>After almost 3 minutes, realize no one has done a single point of damage to the thrope yet despite me not seeing either of them near the majoris horde>Turns out they were standing in the middle of nowhere getting dominated by a biovore
50 absolute matches each is a fucking slog
>>2559069i am adopting the method of not gunning for the black cape immediately, but getting to 25 with each class I am interested in getting the cape, and then restart the rotation, without too much of a hurry
Thank you for coming, brother.2/3 KWGGT
>>2559186Thanks again. Something came up and I had to go. Apologies!That was a very neat lookin WE btw.
>>2559186Full>>2559194Y-you too
>>2556979The capes are a neat bonus to the overall wargear pool, but the number of ops needed to unlock them is egregious to say the least. Especially if you're a regular player. Beats me why they didn't let "veterans" have them if they met the criteria.Fingers crossed for your progress Brother.
GGThank you for your expertise, brothers
>>2559485Should have been 3/5/10
>>2559559We squished those bugs well
sniper solo is impossible when a carnifex spawns and there are 0 gaunts left and the second wave also has 0 gaunts. mega fun fighting 30 warriors with a pocket knife
>>2557712Necron warriors are really fucking slow and not actually particularly durable, they just hit really hard at range and have a chance to get back up.They'd probably be exactly like rubric marines but less tanky.
>>2559616Infinite ammo in heroic sniper rifle. Just need to improve quickscoping.
>>2559668>just change your weaponincredible
>>2558342
>>2559729wow
I wanna use da knoife more, does it do anything particularly well compared to other melees?
>>2559729>come watch the orb, a hellbrute just fucking styled on this marine
>>2559786Shadow stab does a fuckload of damage, but also leaves you completely vulnerable while charging. Other than that, no, not really.It lacks the cleave and stagger that the chainsword brings, and any class that can equip a power axe will want that over any other weapon.
>>2559729Poor bastard got swatted out of the sky kek
The PvP is fun and I will stand by that.
>>2559729assault in one video
>>2559857>The PvP is fun and I will stand by that.Is it still popular enough to find games? How's the balance?
>>2559857Why hello to you too Henry!
>>2559877Quick Match will always find you matches, and the balance is mostly fine besides in Helbrute mode, because a good player with a Helbrute will just wipe the floor with you. He needs to be focused by the entire team, but the problem is he'll stick with his team who will body you because you're not focusing them.Sadly, Helbrute mode is the most popular mode by a wide margin.
>>2559894>Sadly, Helbrute mode is the most popular mode by a wide margin.Monkey paw'd again
Opinion on hammer bulwark ?
>>2559857I liked the normal modes yea, its fun enough for what it is
>>2560053Retarded
>>2559786Argent Edge does damage on parry, like that one strat modifier, and it also breaks combos. It's not really a melee weapon though, it's just something you use to shit on anything trying to melee you
>>2559857>try to play PvP>end up with 250+ ping on Asian serversOnline gaming in Australia is suffering.
Attempting Weekly Help a nigga outYNDK6
>>2560474nvm
>try heroic sniper>get a chaos gameYou don't understand how SHIT those hitboxes at until you use that thing.
>>2560606The vatnik autistic need to make the Rubric hitboxes model accurate to the point the gorgets block headshots is some insane spite.
>>2559894>Helbrute mode, because a good player with a Helbrute will just wipe the floor with youI don't think it's substantially any more snowbally than the other gamemodes when one team is far and away better than the other. Games can get pretty close when each team is evenly matched and even a good Helbrute will struggle against players that know to flank and focus him down.
>>2560639The problem is a good Helbrute with a good team is always at a major advantage over the team without one regardless of plays or skill level. If your team does not focus the Helbrute, collectively, as in all six players, he will just mince you all one by one, or his team will pick you off while you focus him.
>>2560638>the Terminator stun animation causes it to lean back, making it even harder to land headshots
I HATE THIS FUCKING CLASS
>>2560743
>join game>inner fire vanguard>hammer bulwark with no banner heals>throwing krak grenades at minoris crowds and letting them jump back at them>MAX PRESTIGEI think I'll just run some codes, feel free to joinAU - 2KRXQ
>>2560780>AU
>Helbrute spawns>Tactical tries to run past>Realizes he can't>Just eats shit and dies 40 miles away from us
My deathguard for the dude wallAlso why can't we just play as chaos in ops like holy shit saber
>>2560974Because we're named characters.I have a good hunch the next SM game is gonna be centered around the Deathwatch. We can't play as Titus anymore, he's the top dog managing all the logistics and answers only to Roboute. And a Deathwatch game means Saber can much better handle stuff like voice packs and differing Chapter cosmetics without it focusing on one specific group.
>>2560999The named character thing got thrown out with voice packs.
>>2561006It didn't, not really. The characters still talk over you for all objective events. There's also the fact you're still fighting for the 2nd Company Ultras anyway.
>>2560999 (Checked)>Because we're named charactersBy that logic we shouldn't be able to be anything other than second company Ultramarines. Also >>2561006.>I have a good hunch the next SM game is gonna be centered around the DeathwatchI could see the main campaign still being focused on Ultramarines, with operations focusing on the Deathwatch.
>2 useless console tards refusing to buy tech priestsi fucking hate these fags
>>2561131Never play siege with randumbsOnly post codes here or search for a proper lobby on the official trooncord
Tech Priest really should give back something like 250 over his life instead of just breaking even for the buyer. At least that way the person taking all the risk still profits if nobody else is contributing.
>>2561282Nah, just kick and block retards who don't follow group instructions>console playerIf they don't get the hint when someone is tagging the terminal and the techpriest then they're too low IQ to play SM2
>change to las fusil loadout in the middle of a run>lethal efficiency isn't proccing
>>2561282Tech priest gives you 330 for a cost of 200.
>>2561349He doesn't, it's 200. You get 40 per minute for five minutes. The only way to profit is if everybody buys one evenly, that way you all profit 400.
This is Saber's fault for not putting the new siege items on the splash screen
I like how with perk loadouts I can swap between fully offensive bulwark to team medic when next to a weapon pod.Too bad I'm stuck on console and can't communicate to teammates to keep their medkits ready when I swap.
>>2561361Consoles still not being able to read and properly communicate with the PC is pure negligence.
>>2561354Are you fucking retarded?
homer simpin
>>2561369Literally fucking Google it.
>>2557993I am a pvp player first and foremost in all things, and I played the pvp in this game and it was absolute dog shit. The first game was solid for pvp because the maps weren't absolute dogshit. Nothing about the pvp in this game is well designed or well considered. the maps are dogshit, the balance is dogshit, and the gameplay loop is dogshit. Stop wasting your time bro. Play the campaign, run the coop missions. just give up, the pvp was never well designed which means there is zero hope for the game to turn around. I'd understand your desire to work through it if the pvp had ever been good, but it never was, which suggests at day 1 the devs had no clue how to implement a compelling pvp experience. I understand why player of PUBG, The Finals, TF2, etc all stick around well after the games have gone to dogshit. The great starts show a potential for something amazing, and a good dev can recover that. But SM2 pvp was dogshit from the start.Its like this: you date/marry a hottie, she gets fat.Every dude knows why you stay, the memory, the possibility she could lose the weight and get hot again is real. But you marry a fatty and she becomes a landwhale??? that's on you bro. dumb that cunt. move on. life's too short.
>>2561391It's fun.Sneaking up on scrubs as Sniper with the full auto carbine has never stopped being funny.
>>2559857I had much more fun by decreasing gun damage in half and dueling with my brother. We actually got to use melee then
>>2560974Received.
>>2561006They will be introducing "custom" voice lines. So you can play Tactical for instance but you can choose Straban's VO and he will be talking about using auspex or react to scripted events. Knowing Saber new lines will cover only the basics like use of skills, equipment etc.
Ok, I've figured it out. Marked for Death, alongside other stuff like Gun strikes simply do not work when you've got 200+ ping.
>>2562045You shouldn't be playing with 150+ ping anyway, even 100+
>>2562075You speak like I have much of a choice.
Does this shit run on Steam Deck? Asking for me.
>>2557700So IF they added necrons (not such a stretch since we're on a Tomb World in the campaign). What would be the most reasonable line up for their units?
Been seeing a lot of Ultramarines lately.
Saw my first hacker that would instantly kill anything with the Instigator.
Is there a difference between headshots +10% or damage +10%?
>>2557965im so used to playing with blurry fucking balanced upscaling on Low that seeing a highres screenshot like this is mind blowing.
Why the fuck skeleton is part of backpack and not wargear for this slot. I don't like skeleton but i like backpack..
Bros....is he right?
>>2562544Shit forgot pic
>>2562547Jesus holy slopmaxxing
Grabbed by an executable term. Gotta love Chaos.
I dunno what melee term use but why we don't have that? Shotgun secondary. It looks cool.
>>2562173It could be different because of slav code, but I would assume flat damage increase would be better overall.
>>2558193The default keybindings are medicore at best, but honestly, it's your own fault for using them. Part of being a PC gamer is that, before anything else, you adjust the settings, including the keybindings.
>>2562615>use the default keybindings>now muscle memory chains me to using them foreverScreaming internally.
>>2557993>To waste this potential because of a game title is downright insane and autistic to me.Space marine fanboys tend to be insane and autistic >But it is EXACTLY how I image Eldar would fight. This game feels like an accidental Eldar game with a Space Marine skin on top.There's been this recurring meme in the tabletop that GW has been trying to morph space marines into eldar with primemyass marines and the return of guilliman. More specialized infantry that focuses on mobility instead of beings le walking tank. I theorize this is for the following reasons 1.Eldar are the objective good guys of 40k, but they're not pseudo relatable like SM are. Making SM more like eldar gives the idea that SM are good guys2.eldar have had a stronghold on the tabletop meta for years. GW wants that title to be space marines's Either way it's hilarious that sm tards have hated elves for years but are slowly getting bamboozled to buying elves in all but name
anyone has the itch to play wwz after playing this game?idk but I prefer wwz over sm2sm 2 campaign was good but not the coop imo
>>2562692>Eldar are the objective good guys of 40klollmaoonce you birth a chaos god of degeneracy you can no longer be the good guysomething something built 100 bridges and fuck 1 goat they ain't calling you bridge builder
>>2562615They are much worse. Like I mentioned before, I can't fathom the mind that would consider default ones usable by a seasoned player. >it's your own fault for using them>Part of being a PC gamer is that, before anything else, you adjust the settingsTrue and true, I should've changed them long ago. Shows how I'm a creature of habit. But I'm already swinging confidently using thumb side buttons on the mouse. I was worried that muscle memory would stonewall me from smooth switch but cue 10 games later and I'm good.Honestly I can't recommend rebinding controls enough. It's day and night difference.
>>2562715To be fair, current-day Eldar are the dudes that peaced out before the rest of them murderfucked Slaanesh into existence. Basically hyper-puritanical Space Mormons that hold hands with the lights off.
>>2562753Meanwhile the Exodites returned to mon-keigh
>>2562753huh? are you sure? arent those the exodites? the elfs with dinos?>>2562708also anyone? I'm not looking for anyone to play with just want to validate my feeling
>>2562761>huh? are you sure? arent those the exodites? the elfs with dinos?Yep. Craftworlders were traders and weirdos that DIDN'T want to murder and rape each other's corpses.Like >>2562758 said, they went even harder, returning to monki
>>2562761DE are the Eldar that continued down the path of hedonism, "base" Eldar are those who were disgusted by the hedonism and left but still wanted the general culture and technology, (hence why they mostly exist on spaceships) and Exodites are those who decided the only way forward was primitivism, hence the "return to mon-keigh (monkey)"
>>2562784IIRC, even the DEldar weren't as bad as the guys in the core worlds of the Eldar empire. They saw some bad shit was going to happen and skedaddled into the Webway to chill in Commorragh.
This is the most bullshit challenge.
Eldar are fucking hilarious because all they had to do was not be complete fucking dickheads all the time and the Emperor would have happily coexisted with them.They knew humanity would either be Chaos' greatest champions or its greatest foe, bet on the latter, and then acted pompous, duplicitous, and antagonistic every time the two species met, ensuring nobody would ever believe their warnings or offers of aid.
>>2562821It's just "use auspex scan 20 times" assuming you don't have the minoris-ignoring perkSo yeah, pretty poorly designedDoesn't really make for a "challenge"
>>2562821Just play siege mode and you'll get thatMake sure you don't have the perk that omits Minoris scanning
>>2562845>>2562847This is PvPYou literally have to scan 4 enemy players at once
>>2562849Oh>PvPJust ignore it, you can certainly get all the rewards at this point without touching that mode
>>2562858Nah, I like PvP
ah they did something and you can no longer use dlc unlocker huhshameused to be able to do that
>>2562559I despise the way AI writes with a passion, dogshit woman porn book tier
>>2562715>once you birth a chaos god of degeneracy you can no longer be the good guyhehehheh hehehehehehehhehehehhehhehehehehehe>>2562837>Let Monkiegh live, maybe try peace talk>The first thing they do is demand webway access. Refuse and they have an excuse to kill you similar to how the necrons did to the old ones>NO GOOD can happen from giving humanity webway access. They now have the means to wipe out your race for good no matter where you warp off to.>1. They move in. Decide to kill you cus xenos>2. They move in. Decide to kill you because the dark eldar decided to diddle the wrong preschooler and now we have a war we can't run away from.>3.They move in. Chaos moves in with them. Webway is now compromised.Ironically trying to kill them or at least slow them down was the best move. Read any books about the empires conquered in the great crusade. They were either absorbed or annihilated and any alien period had a horrible fate awaiting them regardless of their actions.
>>2562998can you not read the word degeneracy right there?
>>2563001So genocide isn't degeneracy to you?
>>2563003noit's the part that you pretend it's not happening that makes you a cuck and jewishxenos get cleansed simple as
>>2563011>no>it's the part that you pretend it's not happening that makes you a cuck and jewishIt's funny because there are actual jews right now in Isreal who have the same rhetoric as you.
>>2563067show me where the jews admit it
>>2563003Genocide is pretty much the antithesis of degeneracy. The cure, one might say
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>>2563098>>2563011Yes. Mass murder is immoral. Please don't do it
>>2563102Murder implies that you're killing people
>>2563115You are
>>2563117No.
>>2563118Yes Jew. Palestinians are people just like you.
>>2563123No.
>>2562998Xenos were not culled indiscriminately simply because they weren't human, it's that 99% of life in the galaxy was/is insanely hostile towards other species and forced everyone else into a them/us situation. Back during the DAoT, humanity coexistence with xenos species via peace through force because it was the exact same problem everywhere they went.>Humanity discovers planets than can or do support life>Humanity shows up and finds indescribable barbarity happening>Humanity forces these aliens to stop butchering each other and get along>Human empire collapses thanks to the birth of Slaanesh>No longer forced to be civil, the aliens go right back to butchering each other, blaming humanity for destroying their culture>The Imperium shows up, those aliens respond with extreme hostility because how dare those humans force them to poo in the loo>Blood Angels eat the entire planetThe Emperor even considered Eldrad a friend.The problem with the eldar is that they look down their noses at everyone and their holier than thou mindset puts them at odds with people because of their habit of just doing something they think is the right move without talking to any of the other parties involved first (ie. taking out a chaos cult that the Imperium wasn't aware of, making it look like they massacred large swathes of an Imperial world for no reason.)Hell, during the good old days, Horus was in the process of peacefully integrating the Interex before a certain asshole did gay shit.