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What are your hopes and dreams for the upcoming female samurai male knight duo coming this year? Got too rusty at art to make a decent op award.
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First for Jorm.
Second for fix Cent.
Third for fix Highlander.
Fourth for kill all asian characters.
Fifth for kill all gankers.
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there is a non zero chance that the now dead singleplayer story character ayu left behind a swathe of angry angry super powered women who will use even more oversized odachi then usual
who will be even more armored then kensei
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The Arcade weekly is literally impossible
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>>2581346
with all the death sustain they give you?
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>>2581347
I don't even have time to use the minions to heal
Impossible
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>>2581346
>>2581352
It was ez with Kensei
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the buff to ganking is genuinely flabbergasting

what on earth were they thinking?
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>>2581958
the only upside to this change is we should get revenge more often now. since revenge gain is tied to damage reduction (fucking dumb)
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>>2582126
>revenge gain is tied to damage reduction
remember when they did the first round of ganking changes and this WASN'T the case?
and then esports trannies complained so ubisoft called it a bug and made it so your revenge is reduced by the same amount as the damage
FUCK I HATE JC
>b- b- but he nerfed pirate and tiandi
YEAH
AFTER 4 FUCKING YEARS OF THEM BEING SO BROKEN THEYVE BEEN BANNED FROM THE ESPORT TRANNY TOURNAMENTS
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck this dev team
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lets play a game
it's called
spot the Juren using Bounty Hunter + Thrilling Comeback + Last Man Standing who was the last alive on his team
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no nerfs to juren's moveset is heckin' AWESOME
yaaas JC slay queen you go girl wit dem fire patch notes
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>>2582586
i go and farm minions or boost and just wait for the victory timer to run out when there is a juren left. i've seen too many clips of them soloing entire teams and winning, because the other team got tunnel vision and didn't realise they were suddenly breaking
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>>2582663
we actually almost lost, but the minion lane flipped back before we could all die
it was really embarassing
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when Highlander eventually gets a feat rework (something that all pre-Chinese characters are likely to receive)

I hope his feats are set up similarly to Medjay, where they can do different things depending on the stance you're in
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>>2582586
I LOVE IT WHEN I GOT FOR A UB MIXUP ON A JUREN AND HE JUST TARGET SWAPS HOLD LIGHTS ON RED
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How high are your reps? I am a bit embarrassed of 295
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>>2584219
I'm somewhere in the 500s
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Buyed Kathun
Wish I boughted VG
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>>2584219
>>2586168
710 why in FVCK are you embarrased with a low number?
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>>2586319
Having a high rep without ever having entered the comp scene is the big cringe
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>>2586334
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>Juren dodge attacks
>it's the uncharged version
>block it
>go to GB
>the GB doesnt connect
>Juren gets a free GB on me
SHIT GAME
THIS GAME IS DOGSHIT
THE GAME IS SUCH IRREDEEMABLE TRASH
HOLY FUUUCK IT'S SO BAD
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>>2586790
You tried to pursue him
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>>2586793
it's another example of Guardbreak being an antiquated and forgotten punish mechanic
GBs are so lacking
universalize the GB grab range
and if you land a GB it should grant all-guard in all direction or give you massive damage reduction so they arent completely useless in ganks
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>fighting aztec man in a brawl.
>roach starts ganking.
>spams taunt afterwards.
>next round me and teammate gank roach.
>aztec does not help him.
>afterwards we all taunt on his body, including his teammate.
>next round teammate kills roach in a 1v1.
>roach leaves.
>continue to have a nice brawl.
orochi's are always the most cancerous and biggest bitchmade players.
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>>2587056
>honoredditor gets mad when someone plays the 2v2 mode as a 2v2 mode
I can't believe you've made me side with an orochi
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>>2587218
This is a White man's general.
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>>2587056
relatable experience
pretty sure Ive had this happen to me at least twice
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>>2587410
Play duel, you faggot
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>lose game because two teammates took turns 1v1'ing the same one orochi the entire match.
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>>2584219
my reps are artificially capped because I only play one character
but I bet I'd have many hundreds of reps by now
lmao
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>>2587980
They were fighting for honor, you wouldn't get it.
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>>2588254
>honor dictates that I ruin the game for my teammates
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>>2588703
Yes.
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>>2588724
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>>2587056
>continue to have a nice brawl.
But you weren't, that's not a brawl
Only people too scared of someone being toxic to them when they are alone in the room with them in Duel play Brawls this way. What you really wanna play is Duel but you are afraid of a chatbox in a video game.
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>>2588084
Which character
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>>2588791
Tell ubisoft to let me queue for duel with my friend then.
>just play a custom match.
No.
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>>2588876
Highlander
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>>2589475
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speaking of Highlander

he will *eventually* be receiving a feat rework just like all the other old heroes

I would love to see him get Medjay style feats that do different things depending on the stance you're in
preferably stuff that focuses on frequently switching between the stances, which is Highlander's playstyle

I don't exactly what the feats should be, but I'd like to see them follow the established pattern
>T2 is either some sort of healing feat or a damage reduction feat
survivability is something Highlander lacks in this regard
Second Wind is nice and all, but it's not even in the same ballpark as something like Thick Skin, PK's new Bleed Armor, or Shaolin's Invigorate

maybe his T2 would grant him some weak shitty healing from doing something in 1 stance
and grant him some minor damage reduction in the other
>T2 - Celtic Resilience
>While in Defensive Form, if you are attacked while performing an attack you will gain 20% damage resistance for 7 seconds (duration is reset when activated again)
>While in Offensive Form, landing bashes, grabs, and heavy attacks will heal you for 4 health
this doesn't feel super overpowered
if it's too strong they could just adjust the numbers down
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>>2589571
wait I just realized that if you kick someone into a wall this would allow you to trade stamina for health by keeping them locked in place
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let's play Spot The Juren
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nerf all of Juren's hyperarmor startup frames to 500ms
make his side dodge unblockables unfeintable
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>>2589651
He's in the top left. That was super easy
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Shugoki's T4 has to be one of the best T4s in the game
the fact that it just ignores hitstun rules is absurd
>get GBd as a gank victim
>the guy hits you with a heayv
>Shugoki also hits you with a heavy immediatly afterwards
>sends you flying
>the guy who GBd you is now also getting a free heavy and Shugoki is already charging up another heavy (and if you get hit by it this process will repeat)
the fact that this shit lasts 20 seconds and can hit multiple enemies is nuts
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>>2589475
Hound is that you
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>>2590263
nope
Im a different guy
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>>2589475
>>2588084
>>2589492
in game stats also
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>Some spic has voice chat on, shitty pop music running while his mother is yelling at him in the distance
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>>2590401
classic for honor player
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>>2590401
I could count the times I had some annoying 3rd worlder with voice chat on my team on one hand during the first few years of the game. They have to increase hardware requirements to keep them out.
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>tell friend he needs to do something besides light spam.
>he says no because it works.
>fights someone slightly better than him.
>gets mad that light spam does not work.
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>Both breaking
>Entire team alive
>Last guy alive on enemy team is the Jutard
>My team ganks him all at once
Yeah we lost
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>Breach is still high activity
Glad to see that
Best mode
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>>2594631
>Best mode
if everyone playing it actually fully understood all of the mechanics and didn't just leave the moment stuff went south, it would be the best mode for sure
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useless nigger
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Not only did Sohei steal the onehit from Goki who had it removed because it was deemed too powerful but they made it basically available almost nonstop for Sohei and also gave him the Oni skin that fits Shugoki way more? What is this anti Goki propaganda?
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>>2598688
early goki ptsd
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>>2598688
Sohei's one tap requires actual build up which can be prevented by the enemy player, Shugoki's only required you be on low health + you can hyper armour through moves.
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>>2598794
The one hit is easy as fuck tog et in 4v4 and you get it for free with a feat again right after
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>>2598850
No it isn't, and the feat is a tier 4 on a long cooldown
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>>2598794
Sohei is just all around terrible nigger
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>>2598688
I would rather fight 20 sohei's in a row than fight a single shugoki

fuck shugoki, both old and current
*spits on his grave*
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>>2600901
mad white boi
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I don't even like Lawbringer
I don't play him
but I would still be 100% open to Long Arm getting buffed to have Hyperarmor that starts at 500ms
it's a VERY slow move, clocking in at 1000ms
it doesnt chain into anything
giving it 500ms of hyperarmor wouldn't change its role at all, but it would make it possible to throw it out on a hard read during a 1v1 where as right now that's basically impossible
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>>2587056
>roach plays the mode correctly
>his teammate throws
>he leaves
Based, he did everything right.
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>>2595646
This, the average teammate is so shit that its not worth the risk.
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>>2602182
What risk lol
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>>2601667
I'm 99% sure that long arm guarantees a heavy attack
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>>2602317
The risk of being stuck in a long match with a dogshit teammate who will probably leave halfway through.
Atleast if you get a mouthbreather in dominion the match is over quickly.
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>>2579995
half naked samurai woman with tonfas (think hito/raider)
full plate warhammer knight (lb style)

they must always make an unga bunga char
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>>2602403
I have won quite a few breach matches with a bot in my team because they know what to do
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>>2595646
breach isn't this overtly complex mode and is rather shit actually

it's really cool visually but gameplay wise its genuinely such a slog with a winning strat of doing the literal only objective you can + is so hilariously attacker favoured, ignoring feats like corruption that make it even sillier
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>>2602477
Bot is just free renown, lock on target and execution HP for the enemy team because they are completely useless in a fight and I will not tolerate one on my team.
A bot on the enemy team is a free win, no one ever sees a bot on the enemy team and thinks
>OH SHIT! This just got serious, that bots going to know what to do!
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>>2602169
Honortards run this shit. Never forget it.
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>>2602589
Thats why brawl and duel are dead and everyone with triple digit IQ plays Dominion and Breach
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>>2602590
>honortards infest elimination and deathmatch
>everyone stops playing them
It really makes you think
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Had a roach being an honorfag today in dom. Said he should fuck off to duels over chat. I watched him get ganked, ran over emoted on his corpse. Based enemy players joined in and let me run off. Must have finally activated his almonds because he participated in ganks and team fights after that. Whadda ya know we went from losing to winning the match. Fucker had the nerve to be spamming objective indicators the whole match as well
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>>2579995
>female samurai
Last female samurai was hideous and bald so Id like something capable of looking nice.
Id want Daisho or a Nagamaki and heavy armour.
I just want some simple team heal/shield feats like Champions Aura, Sinister Shield and other similar stuff.
>male knight
Id like a Lance or a Spear+Banner, give them a heavy attack where they stab but if they charge it they run/charge forward and stab.
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>>2602327
I was talking about what it immediatly chains into, which is nothing
long arm just has a long enough pin that you get to land a neutral heavy
you do NOT get to land a finisher or chain heavy, which is an important difference
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Shugoki is turbo easy baby toddler mode
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>>2605322
I do not like playing him because it forces bad habits.
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Highlander used to be able to do some cool mixups against full block characters
>enhanced light their full block
>parry the followup
but nope
bye bye
>btw we undid the nerfs to full block stamina drain so theyre back to being just as effective for babysit ganking as ever
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>have played the game enough to where variable time hebies are not an issue as long as it is a 1v1.
I now realize that hitokiri is not that bad to fight.
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Why is Kyoshin so shit in duels
Lose every other duels as him and never lose to them
The kit isn't that bad on paper
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>>2607130
Reactable animations, shit damage on bash followups if you actually manage to land one without being dodged and GBd
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>>2607130
Chain bash "Aorashi" only leads to a light finisher, which is negative on hit AND Fujin Cuts is also negative on hit.
You cannot use the light or zone from Kaze stance as they are extremely reactable, the unblockable is very risky as it is slow and telegraphed by entering the stance, if it does hit then you get Fujin Cuts and you are negative again.
His dodge forward bash isnt very good and only leads to his chain bash/undodgeable mix up which has shit risk/reward for him.
So basically that means that every time Kyoshin succeeds he is punished for it, your opponent doesnt actually need to make a correct defensive choice to get their turn back.
Better characters have a combination of the following
>higher HP
>higher damage
>less risk
>more reward
>offensive vortexes
>hyper armour
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I know I'm also just too old for good reactions but I just don't think VG is that good outside of ganking situations and even there you can have better heroes. Idk why people consider her so broken.
>>2608704
They fixed issues like this on other heroes but refuse to on Kyo and still haven't given him a skin. Everyone just hates poor Kyo, even the devs.
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Remember when they sped lights up but as a concession they made them dodgeable? Then shortly after they started giving people undodgeable chain lights mix up with their chain bash.
Worthless combat system tbqhwy.
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I really dislike how unintelligible Jurens animations are, hed still be extremely strong if he was just animated in a way that is vaguely recognisable or in line with any normal character.
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Never played an Asscreed past Syndicate which I didn't finish but I'm kinda temped to buy the Zerk skin because it's the only way to not make Zerk look disgusting and stinky.
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if you are playing a bash/undodgeable character how do you actuall kill juren?
he can all block while dodging
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>>2610896
>how do you actuall kill juren
lol
The only way I manage to kill Juren players is with hyperarmor attacks because I just power through their mindless spam to make them reach 0 hp before me
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>>2610896
Feint to Guardbreak, with Juren you do an orange/blue mixup you have to make the read of whether or not he's going to go for a dodge attack or an attempt to stuff the gb(either doesn't matter since both lose to blue), all guard dodge(loses to GB, extended dodge attack also loses to GB but it's hard to differentiate between it and the tap version) or if he'll do nothing.
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>>2595646
It's so fucking satisfying when it seems like you are losing but beat the odds in phase 3
Just played against a clan stack and they started shitting the bed in phase 3, one ragequit and our coomander survived with like 1 pixel of health
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>>2611811
Just goes to show how worthless a bot is that a stack cant carry a bot on just the last phase of a breach attack.
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I FUCKING HATE THESE NIGGER BRAINED PUB PLAYERS

HOLY FUCKING SHIT

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
WE HAD THIS MATCH IN THE BAG
BUT IT WAS LIKE PULLING TEETH TO NOT GIVE IT AWAY
>rep 1 virtuosa that seems to have no idea how revenge works and will RUSH to feed revenge to an opponent that I have nearly killed AND GRANT THEM REVENGE
BUT THAT'S NOT THE WORST ONE
>Sohei that used their 7 force strike to kill a Lawbringer that had 15 FUCKING HEALTH LEFT
>after that LB died there was only the enemy Sohei left, but THE TWO REMAINING TEAMMATES (including the Sohei) were already at low health
>all we had to do was kill that sohei
if our Sohei had saved that 7 fold strike to either heal or 1 shot the enemy sohei we would have won
BUT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
oh hahaha I almost forgot
that Lawbringer he used it on fucking dodged his brainlessly telegraphed neutral bash like 4 fucking times
HE JUST KEPT TRYING TO NEUTRAL BASH THE LAWBRINGER AND FAILED
and last but not least
>warden went 2 and 8
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

THESE PEOPLE VOTE
THESE PEOPLE HAVE DRIVERS LICENSES
OH MY GOOOOOOD
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>>2613949
I was the ONLY player on my team who was positive and that was like 14 and 4
FUUUUCK
I'm gonna have to start just playing duels
my hairline cannot take this shit
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>>2613949
>playing jorm.
>get someone to low-ish health.
>guard break them near a wall.
>the guaranteed heavy will be enough to kill them.
>teammate roach runs in, breaks up the guardbreak, proceeds to get light parried because dodge attack spam, gives easy revenge.
I am begging players to stop trying to kill steal.
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>friend complaining about not being as good as he wants to be.
>tell him he needs to throw out heavies and feints.
>ignores my advice.
>says no because light spam works and because the feint key "doesn't work."
>gets bodied by people because blocking lights is not that hard
Is doing a heavy/zone on gladiator 'useless' and 'not worth doing'
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>>2614166
I actually sometimes lose to people like that because I predict some kind of drunken master 6D chess but there is no strategy
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>>2614166
What rep is he? What rep are you?
Ideally if he does want to learn he needs to understand that light spam is not a real tactic and should only be reserved for when he discovers an opponent cant deal with it.
He needs to actually understand that if he wont feint and use bashes and unblockables he will be equivalent to an officer forever.
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worth reinstalling right now? I haven't properly played since ocelotl came out, but I did come back for like a week when virtuoso released
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>>2614760
I recently reinstalled and I am having fun, new hero is very overpowered, annoying has hard to read AND buggy animations though so if you run into him too much it might not be worth it.
These insanely overpowered characters have to be harming the player count.
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>>2614769
>new character is overpowered
same as always then
have they been buffing legacy and year 1 characters at least? anything for warden, kensei, nobushi or cent?
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>>2614779
>same as always then
Its another level though, he is a boss character.
>anything for warden, kensei, nobushi or cent?
Centurion has been changed and has new feats, Tier 2 makes his GB pommel strike knockdown your opponent amd the new Pugio makes them get knocked down by your kick.
The other 3 are unchanged as far as I know and I assume other worse characters will be getting changes before them.
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>>2614779
Warden can chain into a bash from any attack, zone is 500ms opener with quick recovery, chain finishers are unblockable, all bash follow ups now have hyper armour and new animations.

Kensei has faster ool sprint speed, helm splitter is now enhanced, nature's wrath has hyper armour, superior block dodges now confirm unblockable dodge attacks/nature's wrath

Nobushi hasn't changed much since her last adjustments

Centurion got new feats: tier 1 guardbreak light combo now knocks down an opponent, tier 2 gives your opponent a debuff when you eagle talon them, pugio is still the same but now if you legion kick a stunned opponent they get knocked down, phalnax's shields are now infinite duration.
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>>2614821
those warden changes were in the last time I played, but yeah those are nice
the kensei changes seem really great, although I guess I'll miss nature's wrath being a meme move
I swear I heard nobushi got bleed on her zone somewhere (not that that would fix her main issue of no opener). was that a testing ground change that got scrapped or something?
I guess nobushi is never gonna be anything other than a pubstomp character.
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>>2614835
Nobushi's zone always had bleed on the last hit(assuming you let it fly and don't chain into heavy or kick.
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Samurai Anime hero that can enhance his damage to the detriment of his HP when?
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>>2614999
The cooler Kaioken
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The absolute fucking GARBAGE I have to endure on my team is never on the enemy team, I NEVER see an enemy who doesnt understand target swapped attacks, that kind of beginner is only ever on my team.
I almost never see enemies feeding revenge.
Almost every match my teammates are just failing to gank someone and getting put into Faraam montages while I get ganked by untouchable reactards.
If I go to clear minions its actually an option select
>multiple enemies gank me at B
Team does nothing and get wiped out after my death, we lose all objectives
>a single enemy goes to each point
Team follows me to B wandering aimlessly and/or hitting me while they miss the minions and we lose the other objectives
>multiple enemies go to one point
Team gets instagibbed
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does this game lower your mmr when you don't play for a while? every time i come back to this game i get fucking trounced nonstop for the first day...
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>>2615215
Yes but it should be the opposite. When you come back you should beat everyone ez and then when you get thrown back with the sweats you are geting your ass kicked
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>Both teams breaking
>1v4 against Juren
>You just know who is gonna win
How is this even a real character
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The classes mean nothing, but there are a few things like charged bashes, dodge forward bashes and soft feints that a lot of characters have in common.
What else am I missing?
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>>2617717
Still doesn't really mean much, Gladiator has a forward bash and no softfeints of any kind but is still an assassin
Hebbies are slow but have high hp
Assassins are fast and have high damage and shit hp
Vanguard are the mid
Further tha tnat is just comes down to their available perks. That's also the only thing separating a Hybrid from a Vanguard, they just have a perk mishmash
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>known scripter using a lag switch to get instant GBs
Reporting him will do nothing too, youd have to get a post to go insanely viral for anything to happen, love modern gaming, love forced crossplay with PC babies.
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>>2618454
I worded it badly, I meant if we were to group characters into archetypes based on their movesets (like how Ryu and Ken are the same type of character) what are the main categories wed use?
Like charged bash characters are all fundamentally similar and rely on the same "special move", then you have chain bash/undodgeable characters, etc.
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>>2614166
your friend is pretty retarded
Im sorry bud
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>>2618566
>he doesnt know that theres just as many cheats on consoles
pro cod is basically defined by sanctioned cheating devices that attach to your controller
you don't fully appreciate how bad the situation is for modern competitive anything
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>the year is 2026
>500ms attacks are still completely useless
The worst part is the sheer injustice that if your ping is good and your character is animated properly they are a free parry instead of just being blocked every time
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>>2619821
not a 500ms attack
it still throws me off that Shaolin's undodgeable attacks are animated as if it's a dodge attack
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Locked:

Sohei
Afeera
Ocelotl
Medjay
Juren
Virtuosa

Keyed:
15000 steel

Who do I buy
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>>2621735
Virtuosa is my personal favorite of that group
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>>2621735
Virtuosa is the only interesting one out of those.
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>>2621793
>>2621852
Already bought her before reading lole
We love the spaghetti girl on this board
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Virtuosa feels garbage to play against people react to every 500ms, at that point shes a lot like old highlander but with the downside of only having viable moves in the duelist stance.
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>>2622253
Her soft feints are pretty hard to react to too
Just gotta get to enter a pose
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>>2622317
No, people just dodge on indicator and her soft feint heavies don't catch dodge attacks like Kensei's do. She can also fail to GB people out of certain extended dodge attacks
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>"hmm thats weird where are my teammates"
>they are 3v1ing someone and losing while I get 3v1d
>they ragequit shortly after
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>>2622317
9 damage
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>Being this shit with an official A tier hero
What do you people even play, Juren?
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>>2622974
Old highlander was better, could get into a better stance easier and his 400ms lights were enhanced, yet he was bottom tier.
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>>2622785
Le corona doc
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>>2622994
>Old highlander was better
Stopped reading
You didn't play him or you have dementia
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>>2622994
Having to land is top is harder than just having to press a button sure but what highlander had access to from there is not remotely as good as what she has access to in top stance and she can loop that pressure until she is out of stam
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>>2622479
yeah
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>>2622994
>old highlander was better
old highlander only has 3 things over current highlander and those are
1) backstep lights to open with (which was a very important opener and it sucked to lose it)
2) wavedashing that let you dodge through light spam
3) hyperarmored chain lights
feintable kick and feintable zone actually let him be viable beyond just punishing light parries
still pretty hit and miss
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I swear you could halve the attackers lives and triple the commanders health and breach would still be almost impossible to win on defence
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>>2624791
You're meant to defend the capture points and let the ram make its way through so your minions can rape it while your archers kill the attacker minions
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Someone investgate highlander and centurion mains and make sure they did not sabotage ubisoft's co-founder's plane.
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I really hate how Hammar Slam and Eagles Talon are just heavy inputs, if they were dodge forward+heavy or hold heavy then you could actually control your character and choose which actions they do or dont perform.
Really exposes how braindead their playtesting process was.
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It's way too obvious which heroes they actually liked to make and when it was just time for another hero but they couldn't be assed

>Virt
>1 million moves
>customization through the roof

>VG
>uuuuuhhhh block n hebby
>always looks the same
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>>2627117
>>customization through the roof
It really boils down to hat or helmet and coat or breastplate.
It seems like all the more modern heroes are lacking in meaningfully different armour styles, Unless I am mistaken they all have 2 main styles but the launch heroes have 4 and older heroes have 3.
I agree that VGs tend to look basically the same but the realism gods demanded a heavily armoured viking and theres not really much more choice than chainmail and different shapes of scale/lamellar.
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>>2627117
Still seething she got a houndskull helmet before Warden, it's not fucking fair.
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>>2627349
Im seething that you cant change the material on it
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>>2627117
still waiting on VG to have full block nerfed so that it no longer pins enhanced hyperarmored moves
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>>2627117
>always looks the same
Maybe but she looks pretty damn good. Always wanted a Viking like that. Except, you know, male. But eh. Gotta hit that ESG score
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>Arcade
>2 level 3 bots in a tight space surrounded by goons that can GB you
>One is a Raider, all attacks uninterruptible, parries everything
>One is a Kensei, attacks drain your stam, parries everything
>They respawn after a few seconds and both have to be dead at the same time
>You are fucking burning alive from the beginning of the quest
This is not a real mode
Did paypigs really buy this back then?
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>>2628602
It was bundled with marching fire and that was the only way to get it
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>>2628602
To be fair someone who bought it could invite a friend to that quest and beat it. Not that anybody ever did that
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>>2623122
Yes I defended Virtuosa yesterday.

Yes I just got perfected by a fucking Kyo with good reaction time.

I don't wanna hear it.
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>>2630437
>Virt, Kyo
At least you are further into your femboy transformation than him
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbwlC-SbD9Y
They might be touching ranked again after a thousand years
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>>2627389
It's inevitable that she's going to get a version of it that can be recolored
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>>2630637
The only reason I care for that is that if they really wanna do this then they have to start giving a shit about scripters more
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>>2630639
Youd think warden getting one would be inevitable too but he wont get one, ever.
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OK GUYS LISTEN UP

I want to have a brief discussion on which character is best (at least on paper) for Breach solo queueing

so what things are useful in Breach?
>a frequent source of healing that doesn't require you to return to the healing area as frequently
>fast sprint speed for getting around the huge maps faster
>busted feats that give you a unfair advantage in one or multiple areas of the gamemode
>either being a brutal duelist with Stealth that can catch people offguard and rape them, or an anti-ganking machine that can stall like crazy

the first characters that come to mind are
>orochi for his speed and ability to get back like 100 HP off a 1.3s execution
>shinobi for the same reasons as orochi
>BP for his T2 healing feat and general anti-ganking prowess, as well as his T4 that can be used to stack shields on the commander that don't decay
>warmonger for corruption bullshit on guardian and commander (and to a lesser extent the healing off corruption)
>Shaolin for the ability to use his T4 to teleport with the banner (though this is basically impossible in solo queue) and his healing T3
>Nuxia because of how hard she rapes people that she catches off guard
>Warden for Come At Me, Total Recovery, and Stalwart Banner
>Sohei because he can get souls off of Captains (or did they patch that?)
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>>2630814
I really like BP for solo queue, if you do have a good teammate you can use Sinister Shield which could completely change a scenario.
Great at clearing Pikemen and being able to just keep pushing/stalling the Ram or capturing the Archer Points while you heal is very nice especially when you cant rely on a random to take over while you go to heal.
I would really recommend going with Tough as Nails instead of Oathbreaker, TaN paired with the good perks just makes your life easier, a lot of the time Oathbreaker is just overkill or never needed.
Shaolin with Remedy, Devourer and Headhunter has decent healing on a kill, especially when you also have Invigorate.
Use Qi Trap, most maps have spawns where you can guarantee it marks all enemies if not then place on the Healing Zone.
Also enemies marked by Qi Trap can usually be locked onto through walls/floors allowing you to use T2.
Fuck Teleport, it has its moments but its not enough for a tier 4, use Scout to delete the commander with your allies.
Theres damage buffs in breach and your teammates could also use one so theres a decent chance you can pair a damage buff and a defense debuff to basically instakill the commander.
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>>2630814
oh yeah and Tiandi is still a monster for anti-ganking
>gets Rally Call + Come At Me
if Tiandi has both of those feats active when the Guardian dies Im pretty sure he instantly gains something like 1000 renown and jumps to T4 even if hes at the beginning of T2
also
>Vital Leach + Indomitable
one of, if not the best best stalling feat combos in the game

>>2631117
>Great at clearing Pikemen
haven't really played much BP, but I assume this is accomplished by doing the infinite chain of UB heavy into undodgeable heavy
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>>2589571
I WOULD LIKE TO AMMEND THIS

I was thinking of a better way to do a split T2 for Highlander

>T2 - Celtic Resilience
>Passive
>While in Defensive Form, all parries and crushing counters grant +15% damage resistance for 5 seconds (this duration is reset upon reactivation)
>While in Offensive Form, landing a heavy attack will cause all enemies within 20m to have their damage reduced by 15% for 5 seconds (this duration is reset upon reactivation)
this would reward you for frequently doing defensive things in Defensive Form and doing offensive things in Offensive Form
IT WOULD BE PERFECT
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>>2630814
Virtuosa has devourer, so executions heal for up to 60HP and then use her t2 for 10HP every 15 seconds.
Second Wind (30HP every 120s) and Rejuvenating Spirit (50HP for whole team every 180s)
Shaman innately heals 4HP on every hit on a bleeding enemy, considering she has a lot of multihitting punishes that can add up, she also has Devourer+Remedy+Executioners Respite so her executions are 50-95HP with those active.
Second Wind is also available.
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new Highlander T1 feat

>T1 - Stones
>30s cooldown
>While in Defensive Form place a cairn at your feet. If an enemy is unbalanced within 10m of the cairn they will receive 30% more damage for 3s, and destroy the cairn.
>While in Offensive Form swiftly throw a rock at your target that deals 10 damage and interrupts hyperarmor.
The cairns last last indefinitely.

Cairns originate in Scotland
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>>2630814
Juren is the best character all around for Breach:
>Good at 1v1s and team fights
>Has access to free out of combat healing with his Tier 4
>Thrilling Comeback + Bounty Hunter
>His Tier 3's buffs last longer in general because of the longer respawns in Breach.
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>>2632343
>Juren
Anon, you have to live with yourself after the match is over.
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>>2632408
Just kill them
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>>2630814
Aramusha is good too, insane pikeman clear speed with infinite chain + healing feats
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Hmm, Ill play breach
>teammate leaves after losing one fight
Maybe the next match will be good?
>join onto a defender team getting destroyed, have no feats and have a bot on my team
Third times a charm after all
>teammate leaves after losing the shield banner
Onto the next one
>enemy team has multiple jurens and two of my teammates leave
After all that cancer I fInally I have a match where no one leaves. The enemy team has competent players, 2 of my teammates just walk around unlocked getting raped for half their HP before locking on and mashing light in the same direction until death, if you edited footage of them to be officers no one would know.
After the match I leave that lobby and search and I get one of those gormless cunts on my team again!
What the fuck am I supposed to do?
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>>2632536
Just take it like a good bitch and enjoy the XP
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Most Juren players suck, I genuinely believe almost anyone good cannot bear to play such a lobotomite character.
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>>2632686
The objectively better my character is the worse I play because of guilt
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Pay to Wu Win ruining the game as usual.
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>>2632719
UNDEFEATED FOR 4000 YEARS, HAIL CHINA! OUR LAND!
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>>2630708
They only make new models for new heroes and skins. Virtuosa only needs a retexture and they still do that.
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>>2632536
>What the fuck am I supposed to do?
Play dominion
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>>2632536
You fight against bots if you care that much about breach related dailies.
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Ok what the fuck is that Raider skin? They can't be serious
Why do they hate Raider so much?
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>>2633501
Revitiligo, the OPPOSITE of what Michael Jackson got.
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>>2633534
https://files.catbox.moe/3kumud.mp3
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This game would be better if every single chinese character was deleted.
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>>2635238
old shaolin actually took skill to play and his rework is still one of the most shameful things theyve ever done to this game
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>>2635456
Explain the skill needed to play launch shaolin.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVrz-k-BIsM
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>>2636359
Forgoner nostalgia is literally just this but with 2017
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I just came back to the game and jesus people were not joking about juren's animations being shit. I feel like i'm playing a for honor map in gmod every time I fight him
did they fire their animators or something?
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>>2636743
They spent it all on Virtuosa
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>>2636743
why are you guys whining that the bestest ultimate form weapon the (chinese) halberd is strong? isnt that your favorite weapon? this is like the best best best form of lawbringer except cool and donut persue and cum at me brooooooooooo
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Lets make a big hero with a big weapon.
Because they are big they will have high HP, high damage and big hitboxes, dont forget some hyper armour, unblockables, bashes and insane throw range.
To keep it fair, as a downside they will have slower heavies than normal. (this is actually an upside because they will still be guaranteed off parry and GB and just do more damage)
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>>2586334
>competitive for honor
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>>2637736
Your opinion is quite irrelevant, you COULD never lmao
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>>2586334
Whats even considered high rep these days?
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nuxia is so fun, bros
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>>2636279
>no infinite chain monkey brain shit
>actually had to learn how to deflect and CC with your stance to do well instead of just le ebin bash and sun sweep spam
>unfeintable unblockable top heayv that could only be used on a hard read in a similar vein as old highlander kick/grab and LB's longarm
right now he's just as retarded as gryphon, but with more options
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>>2638533
He had no actual way to kill an opponent who knew how to play, it was all reactable and useless.
That is NOT skillful, its just hoping your opponent doesnt know whats going on.
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got the game from one of those times they gave it away on steam, any recommendations for beginners?
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>>2638660
in general?

uuuuuh

1. Play the campaign, BUT KEEP IN MIND that the campaign is unchanged from how it was at release and does NOT represent the speed and balance of the modern multiplayer experience. It's still a good slow introduction to the all the mechanics and the world / aesthetic.

2. When you're first starting out in the multiplayer you are going to get your shit rocked by people who actually know how to play the game. You might be tempted to play some baby-brain easy mode characters, but they will teach to play with some very bad habits that will only end up making you suffer more later on.

This game is a fighting game. Don't listen to any retards who say it isn't a fighting game. It's a fighting game and you need to approach it like one.

It's all about feints, countering, and reading what your opponent is going to do. There is a LOT of shit in this game that you can't just react to, but you can deal with if you see it coming. Brainlets will call this a guessing game (which it is), but that's also true for basically every sport / game that humans play.

It's also about playing dress up with your cool guy and slowly unlocking customization and drip for him / her.
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>>2639074
>>2638660
as for characters I think everyone should play when starting out

1. Warden. He's basic and simple as can be, but you'll come to understand how fights flow by playing him. He has good neutral pressure, but not overpowering. He has a good defensive kit, but it's not just a ton of get out of jail free cards. Just basic and vanilla. Try to not get too addicted to infinitely chaining lights and bashes together against other new players.

2. Peacekeeper. She has pretty weak neutral pressure, but she will teach the importance of feinting moves and going for guard breaks.

3. Conqueror / Valkyrie. Both will teach you how to play soft feint characters and how to use all guard character.

I would recommend learning to play the characters I mentioned above before moving onto ANY of the Samurai or other Viking characters. Do NOT start out with any of the Chinese or other unlockable characters. They'll all either be too hard to have fun with as a noob, or too retardedly strong in noob lobbies for you to learn the right lessons.

DO NOT play the following characters until you actually learn how to play the game
>Orochi - playing this character will make you into a retard who only knows how to abuse dodge recovery cancels
>Shugoki - this will turn you into a mega retard that never gets punished for mistiming a move because you're constantly covered from head to toe in hyperarmor
>Warlord - he isn't OP, but you'll become way too reliant on chained hyperarmor
>Raider - same reasons as Warlord
>Nobushi - you'll become overly reliant on backstep recovery cancelling and dodge attack spam

by all means play whoever the fuck you want, but just don't go playing some super hard or super OP character before you learn to play the game

ALL characters are viable, but some are far far far easier to pubstomp with than others
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>>2639101
okay time to play juren
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>>2638660
>>2639074
I wouldn't recommend playing the campaign. going from 1.0 pre CCU characters to current patch is just going to be confusing; he's going to go into multiplayer thinking parries confirm GBs and wondering why lights are suddenly so fast.
but yeah have fun getting your shit pushed in until you learn the game, but I guess that's just par for the course when it comes to fighting games.

somes meta tips:
>you can unlock everything without paying, and if you don't care too much about playing barbie dress up, you'll have no problem unlocking all the characters for free
>use your xp boosts at the start of 4v4 matches until they become too expensive (they increase in cost each time you use them, resetting each day)
>if you're looking to grind reputation levels to unlock fashion, make sure you have champion status, which you can get in the free battle pass, or when you buy a dlc character/paid battle pass. leveling is painfully slow without it
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>>2639620
>you have champion status, which you can get in the free battle pass, or when you buy a dlc character/paid battle pass. leveling is painfully slow without it
You can pay for champion status using steel, you don't need to buy the battle pass or any of the """dlc""" packs
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>>2638660
People will think less of you for playing any asian character.
Avoid playing variable-timed heavy characters because they force bad habits.
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>>2638660
You should play Raider or Kensei, they are good for beginners to play the team modes and relatively simple.
Ignore anyone telling you to play Warden, to keep it simple Warden is not beginner friendly as he is one of 3 characters (Warden, Warmonger and Jiang Jun) with no defensive options, they are fine but theres no reason to play them as a beginner its just making your life harder for no good reason.
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on the other hand, just play asian characters for free seethe
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Dodge attacks are the For Honor equivalent of a Shoryuken.
Charged bashes are the equivalent of Akumas Demon Flip.
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>>2637846
400 shouldn't be high in year 10 because 1 rep is like 1-2 days of very casual play but I barely see any higher numbers.
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>>2639755
>>2639620
champion status goes on like a 40% off sale for the steel price like twice a year

buy a year's worth of champ status during the sale and you'll get way more back in return
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>>2638660
play whichever character you think looks the coolest
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Shaolin would be significantly more balanced if he couldn't chain into his followup after missing the sunsweep

this is like if Gryphon could still do his kick followups even after you dodge it
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>>2642567
or wait nevermind he cant do that anymore
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>>2642626
>>2642567
double nevermind
he can still chain to the light followup on miss
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OH YOURE WINNING A 1V1

DONT WORRY ILL FEED REVENGE!!!!!!
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I only get the most worthless niggers on my team in dom
>constantly trying to get a free elim on a fight they dont need to join and end up feeding revenge
>have absolutely no restraint and constantly leave points undefended
>stand in the middle of the enemy minion ball while fighting an enemy in mid and get melted
these people
are so worthless
it's crazy
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>>2642680
>nigger teammate starts wailing on enemy and feeding revenge
>stop attacking the enemy because I don't want them to get revenge
>have to sit there and watch my nigger teammate get the kill and I get no credit whatsoever because I hadnt dealt damage for 5 seconds
I fucking hate this game
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>fight someone.
>think they will throw a feint.
>never do.
>start parrying them.
>think they are going to throw a feint at some point.
>never do.
>curbstomp them.
>repeat all game.
They were not even new or using a variable-timed heby character.
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>>2642705
For teammates like that when its possible I will feed revenge and run away so they get mauled.
Not always feasible to do it right away but I can always do it later in the game.
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Virtuosa seems really badly made, she cant chain attacks in without getting guardbroken, even in revenge she cant chain without being interrupted or GB'd but Highlander can stay in offensive without being interrupted in revenge.
Then there are scenrios where you do a light and seemingly cannot exit the stance before a their GB.
her stance should have just had an input like Shaolin/Highlander, even if it was functionally the same actions should be chosen not automatic.
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Raider with the pseudo infinte chain feels more like a Berserker than Berserker
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>>2644275
Also she can riposte minions, so its basically impossible to use her in the minion lane on dominion and most places in breach.
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kensei is balanced
and fighting kensei is not fun
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How is jormungandr
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>lose match because my entire team is taking turns 1v1'ing one guy on one point that they never captured.
>they keep losing.
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>>2646871
>fighting kensei is not fun
Why?
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>>2647323
He's alright
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gryphon has been completely powercrept out of the game.
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>>2648899
Now he is only in every other comp team instead of in every single one
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>>2648906
Comp has rules that make him relevant, these dont exist in matchmaking.
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Why would anyone play a character without any hyperarmor
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>>2649399
because most of the top tiers don't have it
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whats so good about VG?
genuinely curious
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>>2649693
Crushing Counters
Good range and hitbox on heavies
two hit chains giving them simple and effect pressure
Soft feint and recovery cancel into arguably the best full block in the game since it puts you into a special hitsun that even bypasses revenge
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>Check why the game has mixed reviews
>>This games makes me so mad
>>>Me so mad at gaem I can't stop
>>>>I quit and I'm mad
>>>>>It crashes on my Win95 machine
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Locked:

Sohei
Afeera
Ocelotl
Medjay
Juren

Keyed:

9,99 EU prisoner coins
Time for Sohei I guess. That's the only actual character on the list, bad or not
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>>2646871
Valks are the most unfun to fight because it's always some adderal reaction tranny
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>queue for match.
>get in match.
>everyone is a bot except me.
>wait a minute to see if anyone joins.
>no one does.
>leave match because I do not want to fight bots.
>15 minute penalty.
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>>2651411
Close/quit the game if on console, not sure how you get around the penalty on PC but you can.
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>>2649779
If you were to compare her to BP, Aramusha and Kyoshin I feel like they are overall similar (can recovery cancel to deal with dodge attacks etc) but more threatening and have better feats and perks, her added benefit of stunning all zones and externals doesnt seem like enough when so many characters have unblockables and bashes from neutral and you might aswell just pick BP if you want to deal with big attacks in group fights.
>since it puts you into a special hitsun that even bypasses revenge
What do you mean?
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Gryphon really obviously should have been an outlander, he has armour from all cultures and speaks all languages, he would have been a good "face" of the faction, instead of vile pirate.
Virtuosa obviously should have been a knight but they probably just didnt want Knights to be at 10 and then 11 later this year while Vikings will be at 8 heroes unti atleast year 11.
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>>2651808
the stun that VG puts you in when you hit her full block isn't superior block, it's a unique type of hitstun that even applies in revenge where you can bypass hitstun from superior block.
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>>2651921
>more vikings
Honestly what is there left to do with Vikings? It feels like they've already added every facet of the fantasy + a Scotsman
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>>2652001
>even applies in revenge where you can bypass hitstun from superior block.
Revenge does not affect superior block, it only enhances light attacks.
Some moves dont get affected by superior block (usually zone attacks) but revenge doesnt change that behaviour and unless its one of those exceptions a normal superior block from any hero is fine.
Varangian Guards specialty is that she can stun those attacks and blockable attacks not locked on to her.
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>>2651755
I just remembered that I think that using task manager to close the game avoids the penalty.
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>>2652031
>Honestly what is there left to do with Vikings?
A fully naked man who runs at you.
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>>2652031
Thorfinn ass looking dual dagger user but ruining it by making him a yelling foid
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>>2652251
>yelling foid.
cringe.
>yelling crackhead (jorm).
based.
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>>2650207
I'm the guy you replied to and I completely agree
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>>2652031
1st armour set helmet is just hair styles, chest determines is paint patterns and optional accessories, the arms are bracelets.
Second armour style is different helmets, chainmail and arms determine a shirt under the chain (would also cover the naked chest variants if used with them)
Weapon could be a long spear or a sword and a spear.
Alternatively make this the Valkyrie hero skin.
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>>2652316
Forgot image
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>>2652031
add a male hero skin for Shaman
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>>2652316
>>2652319
Obviously in a perfect world it wouldnt be genderlocked.
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>>2652328
>>2652319
pictish witch pretty please (with extra big boobies!!!)
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Highlander brings some reinforcements wielding sword, shield and dagger.
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How do you literally do anything with Khatun without being interrupted and murdered
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>>2652374
very character dependent
if you don't have a quick neutral bash she can be very hard to deal with
if you don't have the option of chain hyperarmor then it's harder
all I can say for general counterplay
>learn how her kit works so you understand when to be going for GBs to grab her out of her full-block stance
>expect her to frequently use her soft feint lights and occassional get a free light parry out of it (this is VERY dependent on the specific khatun's playstyle so pay attention)
>if you expect soft feints then you can throw a light as soon as she starts a heavy and youll interrupt her before her softfeint light attack lands
as a Highlander I find fighting her to be extremely tedious
the hyperarmor zone makes things a little better, but still a pain in the ass
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Post your reps anons. Who have you been playing recently?
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The amount of leavers in regular dom is crazy
This shit takes about 5 minutes, don't be a retard about it and just stay lmao
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How does one play gryphon
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>>2653163
Dodge forward shove then kick or undodgeable mix up.
In team fights aim your dodge heavy and heavy finishers to hit multiple people.
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>>2653163
constantly changing up how you choose to finish, and how you choose to get to your finishers

read up on his kit
https://www.forhonorinfohub.com/character?=9

he has some cool quirks in his chaining just like Kensei
>his zone counts as a chain starter so he only has to land one more chain attack to access his finishers
>GBs count as chain starter, throws count as the 2nd chain, allowing you to access a finisher off a wallsplat
btw that also means that if he GBs you and throws you into the open he can immediatly kick which catches a lot of people off guard

as for how he's played
>if you think they won't dodge, you kick them
>if you think they'll dodge, you do your finisher light
>if you're anti-ganking you use your hyperarmor heavy finishers
>do some empty dodges to bait people into trying to dodge your forward dodge bash
>spam chained heavies in team fights

also you can zone after his kick now which is fully hyperarmoed and hits in a wide area
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>>2653331
>>2653163
oh and I should add that his forward dodge light and forward dodge heavy both count as the 1st and 2nd attack in your chain, so you can access your finishers right afterwards
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>>2653179
>>2653331
>>2653340
What perks and feats are good with him
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>>2653533
he has some really good feat choices
I'll just go through them all real quick

Tier 1
>Stern Stare
In my opinion this is always his best choice. Low cooldown, high impact, low risk. You're basically giving yourself 25% extra damage resistance against a single opponent for 15s, which can be invaluable for when fighting someone who pushes your shit in. Keep in mind it affects all damage that person can deal, including feat damage. This means if you know that a really powerful damage feat is coming you can use this on them preemptively. You can also use it on an enemy that a teammate is fighting to help them out and get a free kill if your teammate wins.
>Speed Revive
only use this if you're also going to use Rising Dawn
>Fast Recovery
if you suck at stamina management & also want to clear minion lane slightly faster

Tier 2
>Draconite Mist
Good for team fights as you can imagine. Collectively healing up to 60 HP across your team and cleansing them of bleed or fire can be huge. In practice this feat doesn't see its full potential most of the time unless you play with a coordinated pre-stack.
>Flesh Wound
This is the correct choice for playing solo queue dominion. Very helpful when people are wailing on you or setting up big damage with a bash. Also synergizes well with Stern Stare since they effectively provide damage resistance in two different ways so they don't cancel each other out.
>Winner's Advantage
Allows for a consistent damage boost. If you don't have trouble surviving ganks somehow then you could use this. I would personally take Flesh Wound every time, but that's just me.

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>>2653634
>>2653533
(cont.)

Tier 3
>Draconite Bolt
Just like with Draconite Mist, this has a very high potential when used in a coordinated team fight. Deals 20 damage to an enemy and possibly heals up to 60 HP across your entire team if they're all there. That's an 80 damage health swing. But usually it's just a sidegrade to a longbow, or at worst a weaker version with a lower health swing. Use it if you think you're gonna be facing lots of bleed characters and just need one more source of cleanse.
>Tough As Nails
Adds 20 HP to your max health pool, bringing Gryphon up to 150. I think this is a good choice and it's pretty self explanatory.
>Fury
Good for Breach before melting the Guardian or Commander. Good for buffing yourself during a gank where you are able to pop it near the end of your revenge timer. You could use it to boost the damage of Arrow Storm or Draconite Cleanser.

Tier 4
>Draconite Cleanser
Just like with the other Draconite feats, this one only really shines with a coordinated team. It is theoretically possible that you could deal a combined 200 damage to an enemy team if they were all packed into the middle, and then heal your own team for a combined 200 health if they all stood in the AoE for the entire duration. In practice this is basically a sidegrade to the Fire Flash, if not a downgrade. The friendly fire damage it can deal can often make the healing it provides afterwards almost worthless.
>Champion's Aura
Completely fucks over all bleed and fire abilities for 30 seconds. If the enemy team was relying on Fire Flasks to win or had a bunch of Shaman's and Nobushis, then this will be fuck them over super hard. Heals up to 400 total health across your whole team if everyone stands in the AoE for the entire duration. I think this is the best choice.
>Arrow Storm
This can be a crazy good feat to drop into a chaotic teamfight, especially if the teamfight is happening in the minion lane. Doesn't work indoors. Kind of (literally) hit or miss.
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>>2653533
>>2653634
>>2653682
in conclusion

IN MY OPINION
the best feat setup for a solo Gryphon is
>Stern Stare
>Flesh Wound
>Tough As Nails
>Champion's Aura
All 4 of these are increasing your tankiness / survivability.

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NOW FOR PERKS

You basically ALWAYS take Remedy (except for one particular setup which I will mention)

So you either go
>Remedy + Radiant Rebound
or
>Remedy + Feline Agility
The choice between Radiant Rebound and Feline Agility basically comes down to how much you think you'll be dying. Radiant Rebound is useful for getting to the point early at the start of the match and is good for getting back in after a respawn. Feline Agility isn't as good of a boost, but is definitely better if you rarely find yourself dying.

Super Sonic and Clever Tactics are worthless trash that you shouldn't use

So now you basically have the choice between Rising Dawn and Rapid Refresh
The choice basically boils down this
>If you're using lots of abilities with cooldowns you use Rapid Refresh (like if you were in a coordinated team and using all your Draconite feats)
>if you're running all your tanky passives and expect to need to rez your shitter teammates a lot, then use Rising Dawn
It's really honestly down to preference because Rapid Refresh at least always affects your T4 (more useful in Breach with longer matches)

the best perk setup for a highly coordinated pre-stack would be taking just Rapid Refresh and Rising Dawn

IN MY OPINION
the best perk setup for a solo Gryphon is
>Remedy
>Feline Agility
>Rapid Refresh
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>>2653634
>>2653682
>>2653741
Thanks. I enjoy his playstyle and like that he is good but not, "bomb ubisoft," annoying.
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>>2653750
REMEMBER!!!
you can target swap your kick follow-up to surprise the fuck out of people
>kick a guy
>instantly swap to his teammate and nail them with a 533ms 24 damage heavy
honestly I think it would be perfectly balanced if they made his follow-up heavy an unblockable just so he could do this more
or at least make it undodgeable
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>>2653791
>>2653750
ALSO ALSO ALSO
more target swapping bullshit
>throw your forward dodge light attack at one enemy, which is enhanced so who cares if they block it or not
>immediatly target swap to a nearby teammate and kick them
it catches people off guard like crazy and they have no time to react
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>>2653533
I agree with basically everything the other anon said.
But I want to add Stern Stare gets you assists (so you get renown and unlock your feats quicker) and its effect is always useful.
Speed Revive can be game changing with or without Rising Dawn, especially in breach but it can also be unnecessary, sometimes you dont need the speed or just never get a chance to revive.
I would avoid Winners Advantage and Fury.
His feats dont do high damage so buffing Bolt or Cleanser is basically pointless and his offense is ok but not so good that Id expect value from a damage buff.
For Perks I think as long as you avoid Supersonic and Clever Tactics you cant really go wrong, you dont want Radiant Rebound AND Feline Agility on the same load out, so just go with Remedy, Rebound OR Agility and Refresh.
Remedy and the Speed perks are nice but their impact isnt huge so you could go with Rapid Refresh+Rising Dawn, especially if using Thick Skin and Tough as Nails because then Refresh is only helping your Tier 1 and your Tier 4 and even with that you probably wont get multiple T4s in a dominion game.
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>>2653965
>you could go with Rapid Refresh+Rising Dawn, especially if using Thick Skin and Tough as Nails
I meant to say swap Refresh for Dawn if you are using those passive feats, but still this is basically personal preference and very minor, either is fine.
Refresh+Dawn is also good as the movement speed perks arent always active and arent always necessary, but Dawn is also not always necessary so its hard to say.
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>enemy team breaking.
>two of them dead and we are fighting the other two.
>all we have to do is kill them.
>fighting one of them.
>notice that I am now fighting three of them.
>my entire team ran away to heal despite not being low and let the other guy revive.
>lose match because my team then spent the rest of the match running into four player ganks instead of grouping up.
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>>2653965
I'm the other anon and yeah the Stern Stare for assists is what I was trying to say in that

Rapid Refresh for reducing the cooldown on Stern Stare and Champion's Aura is still probably worth it

also
>the movement speed perks arent always active and arent always necessary
well Feline Agility is ALWAYS active, but yeah it's not doing anything for you while you're in a fight

Feline Agility is DEFINITELY the better choice for Breach where you're constantly rotating around this huge map and every second counts
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>getting ganked
>get revenge
>get a GB onm one of my rapists
>go to perform the heavy punish
>get GUARDBROKEN out of the heavy and pushed into a wall
NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER
fuck this shitty fucking game
>JC buffs ganking lol
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
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Revenge needs to grant passive superarmor and 100% GB invulnerability, or getting revenge needs to be far far far easier
one or the other
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>>2655343
>Feline Agility is ALWAYS active
Well its not activated until you have tier 1 feat, and then its not "full power" until tier 4 so it can be underwhelming for a large part of the match.
But overall its worth using.
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>>2655417
>Revenge needs to grant passive superarmor and 100% GB invulnerability
I cant even fathom the arguments against this.
>BUT THEN THE GUY GETTING GANKED COULD DO SOMETHING AND WED HAVE TO WAIT FOR REVENGE TO END
Sadly, the fact is even with that it would still be useless, because you can just quite easily not give the enemy revenge.
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>>2656078
Nice :)
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>>2656078
Using my x2 xp on Gryphon because he looks like shit until the final tier
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>>2656322
Holden needed to level to rep 7 to realize knight fashion was the best after all and then rejoined the faction
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>>2655796
oh wait you're right
fuck I completely blanked on how it worked

even more of a reason that it's a "high skill" feat because you won't get much use out of it in a Dom match unless you're The Guy (Him)
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>>2656322
his basic stuff is alright as a cool "wandering vagrant" aeshtetic
but yeah the heroic greek hero stuff is definitely the peak of his fashion
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I would rather fight juren over shaolin.
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>>2646871
Kenseis are just braindead lightspammers and admittedly their light spam is very strong in regular mm
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Make the light off her sonic run undodgeable and Khatun is the perfect wife
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What perks and feats would you use on Lawbringer?
Would you still try going body count+all bombs for the classic bombbringer loadout?
Righteous Deflection and Last Stand dont stack, Body Count and Second Wind are basically Anti Synergy with Last Stand so would you still use it despite all of that?
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>>2659778
they have a 500ms sweeping zone with a built in chain
it's really good for just randomly throwing in
feels like it needs one more soft feint on the 2nd zone hit though to be properly flavorful
the 2nd hit isnt what's strong, it's just that the first is 500ms and has a big hitbox

not as oppressive as other 500ms zones that chain to finishers and bashes though
>Afeera
>Warden
>Orochi (but only if he chooses to get the free second light, thus allowing him to access his finisher heavy)
such a safe opener
even better is feinting a neutral or chain heavy and instantly shitting out these 500ms zones to jump straight into your finishers at very little risk of being punished for it
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>>2660048
hold on
Ill answer
>Righteous Deflection and Last Stand dont stack
OKAY YOU REALLY NEED TO HOLD ON
I've been meaning to rant about this shit
not ranting about it not stacking, but ranting about people not understanding how Last Stand interacts with other sources of DR

AUTISM INCOMING
(unless I get distracted)
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>>2660048
Tier 1
>Conqueror
useless
>Harsh Judgement
rapes people's stamina usage and stamina management (makes it so people clear minion much slower too btw)
low cooldown
long duration (30s god daaaaamn)
can be used to get free assists without feeding revenge just like with Gryphon
>Body Count
meh
LB's minion clear speed isn't amazing
if you just want to live in minion lane go for it I guess, but I don't think it's worth it

Tier 2
>Righteous Deflection
It lets you actually survive some of the most oppressive gank setups in the game, which are ones that are setup off of a parry (like Shaman's bite)
VERY good for boosting your ability to survive ganks and stall
>Fiat Flux
can be a very oppressive ganking tool, but is risky because you can easily fuck over your teammates or yourself with it
by all means do it for the bomber memes, but it's usefullness is pretty limited when you can communicate
if you're in a discord call you can tell your teammate that they need to not be in the AoE, but randoms like to just stand in friendly bombs and wont recognize which bomb it is
>Juggernaut
amazing when dealing with drooling retards
but experienced players will just unlock roll away from you and run around the point until the effect wears off (which I guess means it's a good stalling tool at least)
giving him a forward dodge heavy has made this a little bit better, but not by much since his forward dodge heavy sucks dick at rollcatching (I never find myself getting rollcaught by it so it must suck)

(cont.)
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>>2660048
>>2662585

(cont.)

Tier 3
>Protected Revive
I mean.... eh?
it's kind of cool that you can combine it with Rising Dawn and potentially put a teammate back in the fight in a big way
but outside that I don't think this is worth it most of the time
not my fault that reviving as a mechanic is just kind of worthless outside of Breach
>Pugno Mortis
just a good bomb
it's good at being a big bomb
does big damage
hits a big area
good for ganking or doing bomb punishes (throw it at your feet and then immediately go for a GB
>Second Wind
it's second wind
what else is there to say
take it if you want to heal mid fight or cleanse bleed when fighting Shamans and Nobushis

Tier 4
>Igenus Imber
a game changing Tier 4 that can clear mid and decide team fights at the end of a match
the micro-cooldown mechanic is also really neat
I wish there were more Tier 4s as cool and useful as this
>Catapult
you just win most big team fights they're out in the open at the end of a match
map dependent
big damage nuke
easily avoided in less crowded scenarios, but is nasty when used on a big stupid group of people
>Regenerate
this is boring, but good for Breach
that's all there is to say
also good for when you're ganking someone and you want to "tap out" to jog around for a bit while your teammate holds the victim's attention

IN MY OPINION
the best feats for LB are
>Harsh Judgement
>Righteous Deflection
>Pugno Mortis
>Igneus Imber

now I'll talk about perks and rant about Last Stand
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>>2660048
>>2662528
>>2662585
>>2662669

(cont.)

Okay first Ill go over the perks

>Remedy
it's a 10 HP heal on kill
it's just useful and ubiquitous
>Bastion
makes you 10% tankier on points, which in LB's case means 14 extra health if you think about it
it's not crazy, but you will survive one more light because of Bastion most of the time
>Feline Agility
compared to the other two options this one just takes too long to become useful in my opnion
if you're never on an objective it's better than Bastion, but if you're camping points often then it isn't as good
up to you I guess
>Vengeful Barrier
not as good as it used to be after they removed the revenge bug
but still easily in the top 2-3 best perks in the game and should always be taken when available
actually yeah it's probably still the best perk in the game I think
>Last Stand
this is a hotly debated perk, but it is great for surviving long enough to use revenge or even use revenge multiple times
ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE MULTIPLE SOURCES OF DAMAGE REDUCTION
is AMAZING if you're playing on a team that gives out shields often (mainly BP, but all the Phalanx T4s as well)
>Bulk Up
more health
takes a while to get all that health
but more health is more health
at the end of the match you have 156 base HP (172 with Bastion if you think about it)
I think Last Stand has higher potential, but that's just my opinion
you aren't making a bad choice if you take this, but Last Stand has some crazy potential in comparison
>Rising Dawn
good in breach
not good outside breach
I prefer the other choices
if you wanted to use Protected Revive you should use this

I think the best choices for Lawbringer are
>Bastion
>Vengeful Barrier
>Last Stand
a tried and true classic combination of perks
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>>2662799
>>2660048

(cont.)

OKAY
ON THE SUBJECT OF OVERLAPPING SOURCES OF DAMAGE RESISTANCE AND LAST STAND
here is why this is important
>Last Stand activates when you are 25 HP or lower
>many attacks in this game deal MORE than 25 damage, and frequently you'll be getting by multiple attacks at once when getting ganked
>so if you ONLY take Last Stand, then you'll often just die without getting to use it
HOWEVER
think about this
if you can gently and safely enter that 25 HP or less sweetspot, then you're far more likely to get consistent use out of it
this is why Shugoki's T3 "Hard To Kill" is actually a PERFECT feat to use with Last Stand because it gradually gets you into that sweet spot to actually get use out of Last Stand
SO IF YOU'RE FOLLOWING MY LOGIC
Righteous Deflection actually synergizes very well with Last Stand
you'll actually survive the rape in a way that you can activate Last Stand and then go sicko mode with your Revenge
you're far more likely to actually GET revenge if you use Last Stand in combination with Righteous Deflection

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND
most people aren't paying attention to the feat indicators and have no idea how much Damage Resistance you have when you have Bastion
so you'll activate Righteous Deflection and get a bunch of idiots wailing on you

Bastion + Righteous Deflection + Last Stand
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What is the most disrespectful/rage-inducing emote I can buy top spam on top of the bodies of spam shitters who spam their gay little effects when they kill someone in a gank
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>>2663767
Highlander spear emote + generic RAH emote to hump their dead bodies.
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>>2662669
Thanks for your input, I have been using basically that set up, it is probably the best and most reliable but I realised if you target minions with his zone people dont seem to be able to stop you now that he can chain from it, so that made me curious to also try an all bombs loadout, it can be a lot of healing and killing minions also counts for the score.
So you basically keep B and generate a lot of points all match, then you can go to mop up a group fight with your bombs, remedy to capitalise on bombs killing someone could be good, but Bastion is probably a better choice.
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>>2662820
the gank changes make it so DR isn't the best option if you're coping to get revenge

i wouldn't stack multiple sources still, last stand is still great if you have vengeful or shield feats, otherwise most of its value is lost thanks to the fix of the revenge shield bug imho, though i think righteous deflection is a top tier choice regardless for lb, jugg's nerf has made it not so viable, and lb even has armor on chain heavies so its not giving him something he doesn't have like it would on ara
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>>2663767
chicken
vomit
kicking dust

I dont remember their names

most disrespectful execs are
beat down and spit
the bell one
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>>2664941
wait what? do ALL forms of DR affect revenge gain? are you fucking kidding me? WHAT THE FUCK

ok so basically if you aren't getting shields or HP from a feat you're basically wasting your time???

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME
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>>2666217
this is actually making me so angry
the more I think about it the angrier I get
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>>2666217
>if you aren't getting shields or HP from a feat you're basically wasting your time
No. Damage reduction is still helping you in 1v1s, even numbered fights and scenarios where they see you are close to revenge and stop feeding you tags.
Most attacks give revenge equal to the damage they deal so its not really a downside.
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Does cent's punch roll catch or not? I swear whenever I play him, it never does, but whenever I fight one, it is an unescapable chain.
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>>2668467
important question
does DR affect the revenge gained from bashes? that's extremely important information
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Is raider's unblockable feint into top light's broken animation by design
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How come ubisfot will take an okay to kind of good character like centurion or highlander and kill them, but allow orochi and juren to stay retarded forever
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>>2672374
JC can't parry heavies
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>>2671508
I dont think so based on my matches, but I havent tested it so I cant be 100% sure.
Info hub states "GBs/Throws/CGBs/failed GBs, and all melee attacks that deal no damage, or deal instantaneous damage (eg. Glad Toe Stab) count as a 30 damage attack for the purposes of revenge."
>>2671714
You have to remember that things have been sped up a lot since those animations were originally made.
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>>2672374
Wu Lin have always been overpowered, China owns a portion of Ubisoft.
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Nothing less fun than some 240fps adderall snorting Lawfag and yet you are forced to match with them sometimes because there aren't enough actual human beings to match with so you get them instead
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>>2678233
I don't really understand what you're saying, but I agree with the sentiment
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>>2678648
>I don't really understand what you're saying
What's unclear about it
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met another 4 stack of cheaters
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>>2678233
I get consistent light parriers in my mm all the time and I'm not even good. It's like you say, matchmaking can only work if there are enough shitty to average players to play outside autismo league but there aren't. Rep 0s that don't know how to feint have their own mm range and the rest is all in one huge pool together.
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>>2678808
after fighting this 4 stack I immediately got to fight a different 4 stack
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>>2678859
what's crazy is that this team lost their nuxia like 30 seconds into the next match and immediately got a different guy Ive seen in various 4 stacks before, who proceeded to carry the shit out of them

theyre literally subbing out players in an LFG discord somewhere for fucking casual pub matches
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>>2678922
>>2678808
> .EB
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>>2678808
>>2678859
>>2678922
This is why you play duel
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>>2679026
>duel
fighting an endless wave of Orochi's and Kensei's stops being fun after a while
if those retards at Ubisoft would just buff anti-gank mechanics, then Dom and Breach would be perfectly fine for solo play
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>>2679212
I encounter a good variation Tbh but take Orochi in duel over Orochi in 4v4 plus I don't give a shit about losing in duel, losing some bullshit 1v1 in dom only makes me mad because it affects my teammates too lol
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>>2679026
I play Virtuosa though. I don't wanna do this to people in duel. I know she isn't exactly S tier but she is absurdly annoying
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So cool how cycling targets still does not work and people are able to get free revives because the game will not let me target the person standing right beside me.
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>>2680137
your only choice is to unlock and manually turn yourself around and relock
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>>2671508
>>2677638
as john infohub himself
no, bashes are their own thing and will feed 30
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>>2678922
>>2678808
oh great
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>>2680388
What's with Virt's zone btw, some kind of bastard child between attack and bash?
I thoght the 1damage unblockable attack would make it an excellent ganking tool, but it feeds as much revenge as a bash
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>>2681912
They stated on Warriors Den that bash zones were given 1 damage so they can kill soldiers.
Still pointless on Virtuosa and Black Prior, I dont ever kill soldiers as glad but maybe useful on him.
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>>2682230
Yeah I mean when I want to kill soldiers as BP I just use the 20 miles range chain heavy instead
And as Virt, you are probably on the losing team if you are the one having to clear
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The day they make a male skin for Warmonger is the day they just print money.
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for what purpose???????
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>>2682773
You and your buddy almost kill a guy, one of you stays to finish the other can go elsewhere to deny any revenge.
Or you and your buddy kill a guy then have movement speed to go to the other guys and kill them too.
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>>2682773
They did not like haymaker on him and wanted to make him more teamfight oriented, so they gave him two feats that are oriented around his worse move while making him worse in teamfights because he does not have haymaker.
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>>2683110
>they gave him two feats that are oriented around his worse move
Eagle's Talon is his big cool epic finishing move
making it feel more rewarding to use and letting you use it a bit more often was a good choice
it's already hyperarmored so it's not like you can't use it in teamfights or during ant-ganks
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>>2679212
Dueling Kenseis is just miserable, I hate them. Every bit as annoying as a Virtuosa except Kenseis have a victim complex on top of it just because autismo tier lists put them in B
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>>2683240
getting a 32 damage heavy off of a simple GB into wallsplat is crazy
and having that 32 damage heavy also soft feint to GB is super strong (not to mention the side soft feints on top of that)
I can't imagine how oppressive he'll be once they give him a reworked set of unique feats
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>Play overtuned bullshit heroes
>Lose, get mad, last place constantly, hate myself for being shit at a game I spent too much time on

>Play main, Warlord
>Win everything, the sun shines, every girl wants me

But I'm bored of my main
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>>2684222
>but I'm bored of my main
your main is boring
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>>2684222
the characters who are the most mechanically interesting, and therefore the most fun to main are
>Highlander at the very top, with all the stupid tech there is to learn
>Shaolin has a high skill ceiling with lots of mechanics to master like CCing out of his stance and deflecting + his feats are interesting to use
>Gladiator for farming dopamaine off of your deflect wall punishes
>Sohei for soul bullshit and getting a feel for when to use which finishers and how to read people, and hitting that ultimate move must feel great every time
>Khatun for what looks like extremely complex, but effective anti-ganking
>Conqueror for learning to use all those soft-feints
>Black Prior (but it's very easy to play him like a retard)
>Nuxia probably
Warlord is probably the least mechanically interesting hero in the entire roster
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>>2684372
Which is why I'm bored of him but I can't help but love him
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>>2684222
Me but with Warmonger
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>>2684460
I'd debate that kensei can be up there considering his current spacing and soft feints off top
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>>2685980
oh yeah for sure
I just forgot to include him
kensei is definitely a fun character to main
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>>2684460
>boring slop like glad, sohei, bp and conq
>no virtuosa
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I wanna do race traitorous things with Afeera
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>>2686890
>no virtuosa
>the absolute definition of a button mashing retard character
>"lol just read my next 400ms bash loooool"
>b- b- b-but she's a stance character! just like highlander!!!
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>>2687021
She has more stances than Highlander
You are just mad because a Virt emoted on you
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>>2687044
play virtuosa if you want
but dont pretend she's some sort of challenging and fun hero that's hard to master
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>>2687021
>Highlanders lightspam is... le deep... because you can jiggle and emote around while doing it...
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>>2688053
you can just block Highlander's light spam and kick him out of his stance
you cannot just block virtuosa and completely shut down her spam
pretending these are the same is just cope
please refer to >>2687076
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Are the servers breaking, this is the third game in a row where everyone had 80-150 ping
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>>2688527
Literally just walk away from a pose stanced Virtuosa lmao
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>>2687021
>ITS NOT DEEP BECAUSE THE CHARACTER CAN DO SOMETHING UNREACTABLE
Go play a PVE quicktime event game then.
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>>2687021
>button mash on virtuosa
She's the character where that can very easily lead to you throwing out a niche attack that's absolutely horrific for whatever your current circumstance is.
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>>2688527
>you cannot just block virtuosa
Yes you can, both forms share the same weaknesses but Virt has it worse because she doesn't have omni directional spammable 400ms lights nor does she have a feintable 500ms bash
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Sarmatian sabre fencer when?
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>>2690687
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>>2689966
all of her stance attacks rollcatch an unlock roll attempt on reaction you fuckin' liar
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>>2690102
>nor does she have a feintable 500ms bash
you're right she has a 400ms bash instead that can be repeatedly spammed
the stance switching does take skill, but dont pretend that's what most virt players are playing the character for
all they see is
>dodge everything automatically stance that turns ganks into an even more braindead affair than they already were
>infinite 400ms bash chain
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>>2692418
>you're right she has a 400ms bash instead that can be repeatedly spammed
She has a 500ms bash from neutral in her top stance, the kick takes her out of stance unlike Highlander who stays in stance. Highlander's stance bash is better since it can be feinted, soft feinted and confirms a heavy. Guard stance's bash is 600ms, and Swarm stance's bash is 700ms.

>>dodge everything automatically stance that turns ganks into an even more braindead affair than they already were
Virt is incredibly bad at handling 2v1s, you can be GB'd mid-"chain" even when you're in revenge. Highlander does not have this weakness btw. Virt only becomes oppressive when its 2v1 in her favour but so is Highlander who has an easy confirm gank tool in the form of caber toss which confirms a heavy just like the kick.

>infinite 400ms bash chain
The bash is 500ms and unlike Highlander Virt cannot feint the bash nor does she have a way of turning it into a mixup other than feinting a top stance heavy and hoping the opponent can't tell the difference on startup because early dodging the kick still allows you to counter GB after a feinted unblockable heavy.
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>>2692497
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>>2692552
It's 500ms, her only 400ms attack is top stance light.
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>wew love all the changes, sure hope no content creator tries to spot light how good he is now

fuuuuuuck
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Virtuosa is objectively the hero with the most complex moveset.
>But you can spam X without learning Y and Z
This is true of most heroes and has zero correlation with their overall complexity.
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Why won't they at least try to revive Elimination by having orders for it
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>>2694209
They need to remove feats from Elimination and implement anti running measures like they have in duels.
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>>2693561
>Virtuosa is objectively the hero with the most complex moveset.
Doesn't mean much but yes she is. Never had to think twice about what my current moveset is when I'm learning a new hero
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Look at me, I am juren. I am going to run into a 1v4 instead of grouping up and spam hyperarmor and unblockables because it works sometimes.
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>>2695897
>Look at me, I am juren. I am going to run into a 1v4
And have a realistic chance to win
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>There is a For Honor lore YouTuber
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>>2696230
yes I am expecting nerfs to kensei just when he finally got his break so FATFUCK can try to shill the new super armored SHOGUN (female ayu fanclub only) class
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now that I think about it, why does it seem like lawbringer cant really extend his range despite his halberd?
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>>2696503
because the people in charge of his moveset design were idiots
Slanderous was right about how LB should be designed
>stance character
>one stance is all about extended reach, using the halberd as a poleaxe and a spear, with generally slower attacks with longer reach
>the other stance has you choking up your grip on it for more close range attacks that are generally faster (bashes should be accessed from this stance)
>he should obviously have a lot of hyperarmor given that he is the single most heavy armoured character in the game
having him be the guy that can followup literally any attack with a bash is just stupid
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>>2696503
Long ranged attacks in this game are either short enough that it doesn't really matter or long enough that it's the worst fucking thing ever. I don't think there's an in between.
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Refugee hero

Uses a machete
Instant kill neck stab T4
Gets all 4 feats from the start for free
Gets more steel per match, all other heroes get less
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>>2698605
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYCqmOx9-O8
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>>2590401
I swear I just had a teammate that was playing from a third world callcenter lmao how is this happening
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>>2698937
Ubisoft support member
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>>2698605
so zased
ubisoft must add this immediately inshallah
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They buffed Lvl2 bots didn't they
I used to be able to just do my orders while not even looking at the screen which is the whole point of AI matches but now bots do dodge attacks and fullblock all the damn time, gay
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>Tonfa hero
I realize we are running out of options for Samurai but damn... not crazy about it
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>>2703746
there is actually quite a bit of weapons the samurai can still use
this includes nunchucks, tonfa like you claim, warfans, sai, nagamaki (kensei/new female hero warden/warmong comparison), and a few feat upgrades like changing all samurai bows to guns etc there are a few more that slip my mind
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>>2703746
Wtf
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>>2703779
this bitch is gonna have her shit slapped
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>>2703779
If that is her stance
And she has a barefoot armor variant
Instant main
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Literal peasant knight hero when
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>>2703779
ugh
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>>2703779
Her other helmets better go in a radically different direction
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>>2703779
You just know someone at Ubisoft has that exact hair
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Uhm the main menu screen changed
If you wait there is someone running around outside, that wasn't there earlier
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I sure hope the new ken sama execution is cool
and largely a two handed action
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EFnvynXzyZo wow a real roach deflect
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Why even play Berserker anymore, I don't see what he has over Raider other than a long jump (wow)
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2026 and the visual disconnect between Kenseis dodge attack and jump direction still confuses me every time
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>>2709213
>Why even play Berserker anymore, I don't see what he has over Raider other than a long jump (wow)
dude your hyperarmored feint attacks? hello?
your hyperarmored 400ms soft feint light attacks??
your dodge cancel recovery?
your dodge cancel recovery that can be used to access an undodgeable dodge attack???
your dodge cancel recovery that can be used to access your deflect that beats hyperarmor??????

are you fuckin' stupid?
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>>2709252
it's just one of those matchup knowledge things you have to remember
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>>2709213
Berserker has like five times the amount of broken and unreadable animations as Raider.
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Buyghted Juren
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>>2710692
enjoy the free wins
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>>2710778
His fullblock doesn't even grant you an attack. Omg, so weak. Getting hit should heal you.

I actually looked up the feats before posting this because I wouldn't have put it past Ubi to do this. And then saw what his feats are. This is so fucking funny. I love him. Fuck my gay ass third world teammates.
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>>2710858
>His fullblock doesn't even grant you an attack
it lets him stuff dodge attacks by using the full block to recovery cancel, making them completely safe
you are FORCED to go for GBs against him if you want to actually punish him
>Omg, so weak. Getting hit should heal you.
you have to be baiting
this is bait
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>>2710876
I wasn't serious which is why I looked up the feats because I wouldn't put it past Ubi to give him a passive that makes his fullblock grant health
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Should I play berserker or will people look at me the same way people look at juren/orochi/pirate
The opinions of random online people that I can neither see or hear is very important to me.
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Can i have a single dominion match without Juren, Pirate, Virt or Roach please?
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>>2710930
Zerk is completely fine, he is not even considered that overly strong. Nowhere near Juren
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>>2711025
is roach even problematic? or just a permanent PTSD hazard for all warden mains
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>>2711144
He is only not "problematic" in duels but he is still really good there and is a pain to fight in a gank.
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>>2711144
Orochi used to be mid but was buffed to god level
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>>2711144
His recovery cancels are pure cancer
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>>2703779
Don't care still only playing warden
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>>2711025
I'm rep 20 and all my dominion matches go like this.

>At least one Juren, Pirate, Virtuosa, Shaolin, Lawbringer, retc
>All rep 500+
>All of them play in the most unfun way possible
>At least 2 or 3 people leave in the losing side

This playerbase is pathetic.
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>>2711144
he cancel the recovery of any attack with any of the following
>storm rush
>backstep light
>side dodge attacks
>a regular empty dodge
>his pinning deflect that beats hyperarmor
he is really annoying to deal with as a result
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revenge is a worthless mechanic

it impossible to get revenge against a competent duo

and even if you do somehow get revenge before dying, they will unlock roll away from you
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>>2712400
oh yeah for context the two dudes in the pic were executing the most perfect optimized ganking

you'd make ONE wrong move and suddenly be in a blender for over 70% of your health before you could stop it again
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Knight AC skin: Protag
Viking AC skin: Protag
Samurai AC skins: Protags
Pirate AC skin: Side character
Why do they hate Edward, he even uses the correct weapon combo
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>>2713016
>Pirate AC skin
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>>2713052
Off brand Blackbeard still counts as the Black Flag hero
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>>2713016
???
was there another leak or something?
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>>2711396
>All rep 500+
I rarely find high reps but that is probably because I'm not good enough to reach them in matchmaking
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>>2713286
Puss in Boots skin for Virtuosa 2027
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>>2713295
it should just be her completely naked and painted like an orange tabby, with big leather boots on
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Been back for 2 months and haven't seen a single person play Ezio
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>>2713328
that would require playing PK
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>>2713088
>man who has only consumed one pirate media before; "I'm getting real boss baby vibes from this..."
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>>2713359
There is only 1 ubisoft related Blackbeard :]
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>Breeches
>both teams start with a bot
I will keep you updated...
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>>2713407
Bot was infinitely better than the guy who then joined
Team ignored both ramparts and banner
Alt F4
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>>2713467
Why not just cut your ethernet cable in half
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>>2713395
Blackbeard was born 306 years before Ubisoft was founded :]
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>>2713512
History is fake
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>>2713504
I dropkick the ethernet out of my PC on mild irritation but Alt F4 when I'm truly mad
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Played again with the homies against randos after a good year and a half of not playing. Got some good games, some extremely bad games, but...

Can someone explain to me how it's possible that a dude gets revenge without even getting turboganked?
I played with a (former) veteran and even he was surprised that a dude would get hit by two lights in a one-on-one then bust out revenge to absolutely curbstomp you. We wondered if it was equipment or even cheating but there's no way to be sure because even Reddit doesn't know. Dudes were high level but not super high. Ah, I didn't bother checking their equipment level.
We were very surprised, that's why I'm stroking my chiney-chin-chin. T'was weird. Happened several times too, so might not be cheating.
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>>2713669
theres been dartboard changes on how revenge is supposed to go, these days they've designed it to be fairly weak
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fff
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>>2713962
Number too funny, you have to stop playing.
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when I ich to the ni to the san shi go ZENKAAAAAAAAAAAI
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I miss my hyper gold armor
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>>2711351
Warden feels like ass lmao
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>Guy who is le toxic to everybody he defeats gets so annoyed by my Virtuosa (understandably) that he disconnects and hate-befriends me on uplay
I will not be accepting thoughbeit
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>>2714686
NTA, but Warden is just a solid A tier character
you can get quite a lot of mileage out of his seemingly simple moveset
>as long as you use it very sparingly, nobody ever expects your top crushing counter that nets you a whopping 33 damage holy shit
>all bash followups have hyperarmor, which means you can bash someone and then target swap with a hyperarmored heavy
>feinting your heavies and instantly going for a zone
>zoning someone and then target swapping a quick chain bash into someone else (which nets you a hyperarmored followup)
>constantly unlocking and killing a few minions while fighting in minion lane to heal quite a lot of health (which is also a great way to bait out forward dodge attacks and lights)
>a character with an unblockable heavy finisher so that he can chain from a GB punish directly into another 50/50
>thrilling comeback
just pretty solid
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Is there any way to unbind f6 from pulling up the menu
I have a mouse with multiple buttons and I have it bound to f6, and it annoys me when games make something unbindable.
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Tell me about Oceloti, I just bought him and had fun playing as him against my friend. He kind of reminds me of jorm with his feintable bash after an attack, and I have played jorm a lot.
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>>2715419
Nevermind, I forgot that f13 keys exist. Still stupid that it is not rebindable.
>>2715522
18 damage on a feintable bash is insane.
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>try new hero I bought.
>first game has three shugokis.
I understand. I will simply go to bed.
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>>2715818
WHAT TAKESHI GON DO
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>>2715818
>Play PK for once
>Get 3 Shug teammates
>Constantly have to slow myself down because they aren't at the point yet and PK can't antigank for shit
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Characters with easy access to undodgeables are toxic to my Virtuosa
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>>2715522
>tell me about Ocelotl
nothing particularly special, but quite strong
lots of infinite chaining between different moves
very plentiful hyperarmor
his zone is basically just Highlander's but better (HA starts 100ms faster at 400ms and it can chain to like 4 other things mid zone-chain)

he's great at spamming bullshit so hes strong at low levels
and he has a lot of objectively great attacks with good properties so he's good at high level
his unique feats are mostly stupid memes except for his T4
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>>2718455
>lots of infinite chaining between different moves
What is so great about infinite chaining if anyone past with 50 or more hours is just going to block or parry it?
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Love Warmommy but her side light combo animation looks like it was made in source film maker
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>500 steel order is friendslop
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>>2717383
just use the dodge guard
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>First dominion match of the day
>Opponent team has a Juren, Pirate and a Roach

Why.
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>>2715158
but anon, if Warden is not perfect tier invincible with revenge
how will warden mains ever recreate that one fight scene that was for elderscrolls online where that one knight (druid bad guy) beats up the DEI squad (player characters)
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>>2713292
My win rate is 64% in dominion and my last match i had a rep 500+, two reps 900+ and a rep 1000+ all of them playing meta shit like VG, Juren and Pirate with confirm ganks. While i'm rep 20, what the fuck am i supposed to do in that game except leaving or losing.
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>>2720408
>What is so great about infinite chaining if anyone past with 50 or more hours is just going to block or parry it?
in Ocelotl and Juren's case it means you will NEVER know what they're going to do next
with Oceltol it's
>is he going to bash?
>is he going to throw a heavy?
>is he going to throw out a hyperarmor zone?
>is he going to throw the same move twice and access a finisher?
you just never know what he's gonna do
and it makes your attacks harder to react to because you're always flying by the seat of your pants when fighting Ocelotl

what's so great about infinites in general is that you're potentially never free of the wild ride
>oh you dodged Jorm's finisher heavy and are trying to go for a GB?
>PSYCHE!!! he's now throwing out his instantly hyperarmored chain zone which acts as a chain starter
yeah
some of this shit can just be blocked
but a lot of infinite extenders are either unblockable or enhanced moves (see Raider, Highlander, Jorm, Sohei, etc) so you can't just block them to shut it down
and if you go for a parry and get read... well

pic unrelated, I just think it's neat
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I hate Outlanders
I hate Varangian
I hate Juren
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huh that is an interesting stat to note
that atleast 130k+ have played the stupid dbd event
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>>2722724
I queued for it once by mistake and did not get a match despite queuing for five minutes.
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I've just noticed that they allow you to look at execution for heroes you dont own, and the executed just die from cringe with virt's selfie execution?
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>>2723033
From that and getting stabbed I guess
You can also preview executions and emotes of skins to check their sounds
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdzmK0I9u0I
>leaked
guess we gotta show it now
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>>2723903
Finally, a masculine acting girlboss. Didn't get one of these in 10 minutes
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>>2723903
Reception is pretty bad so far lole
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>>2723933
shes atleast showing some skin this time been awhile since we had one
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>>2723903
I wish all for honor characters wore helmets/masks.
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>>2723963
you mean marketed as having a helmet as default costume?
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>>2723964
I prefer for honor characters to have their face hidden.
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>>2722112
That is going to continue until you fall at least beneath 50% because the playerbase is just pretty small now and mainly consits of autsits that rarely stopped playing for long
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>>2723933
>a masculine acting girlboss
This is a game where people kill each other with pointy sticks in an endless race war.
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>>2724155
Didn't stop PK, Nobushi, fNobi, Nuxia, Afeera and especially Virtuosa being cute, did it
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>>2724177
So the issue isn't their behaviour, it's their appearance.


Valkyrie bros...
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>>2724155
Is that hito, shinobi, and cat ears nobushi
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>>2724227
>So the issue isn't their behaviour, it's their appearance.
It's definitely just as much the behaviour, Shaman isn't ugly but still disgusting and Khatun has nice hips but her demeanor ruins it
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>>2724244
I'm a bit torn on Warmonger the Apollyon LARPer (even though she does it wrong). I can't hate Apollyon but that just shows the brainwashing works on me too. The character is good but shouldn't be a woman
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>>2724244
Shaman is literally mentally ill, the entire concept is that they're a schizophrenic forest hermit being put on the front lines of the race war.

Khatun's concept is a swift and mobile conqueror, similar to Warmonger but more of its own thing instead of a corrupt Warden/Apollyon fangirl.
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I do not like how warmonger speaks english.
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>>2723903
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>>2723903
Why can't gamedevs make attractive females anymore
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>>2724332
Virtuosa exists bro.
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>>2723903
Mohawk and nonsensical "mask"
Awful
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>Guy in chat (who the fuck uses chat) comments and complains about the gameplay of everyone while not even being 1st
100% they wouldn't even dare say hello in voice chat
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>>2724920
I forgot this game had an actual chatbox and was reminded of it the other day because someone was complaining about an honortard teammate who was standing by and watching him get ganked or something.
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>>2723903
This might be the worst looking hero in the entire game
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>>2723903
looks great
can't wait to enjoy animations of my dude cutting off her head and beating her to death and stuff
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>I wonder what r*ddit is saying about this ugly dyke
>they're praising it and going yaaaas queen epic tonfas girl boss
this game deserves every bad decision ubisoft makes
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>>2725509
I had to check myself and there's barely any praise outside of a dedicated thread because every other comment is shitting on her
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>guy ganks.
>spams gay effect emote.
>get gets ganked.
>Wow!
>Wow!
>Wow!
???
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>>2725466
>>2725466
isnt that the beauty of 4 honor? you can humiliate with executions
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pls lubus... do objectiv
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>>2725509
>making shit up as if there's a meaningful difference between the user base of modern leddit and modern 4chinz.



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