>>2631947
I can’t even find this on the catalog
Remake pls

>>2631975
skill issue
"World of tanks" is figuratively the 2nd line

hahh i love the tank game
TURN UP THE HEAT:D

forgot the title award

tanks.gg is cracked, you get to see the 3d styles now

Guy who hasn’t played WoT in ten years here, I get the Duke Nukem but who the hell are the other people in OP picrel supposed to be

>>2635282
probably Blood man, Rise Of The Triad man and the token female 3DRealms bitch from that one game I didn't play.

>>2635282
assorted build engine protagonists

This game must have the biggest player base of pussies out of anything I've ever played. So many people literally frightened to simply play the game, contest for ground, many just want to sit in the base from the start regardless of their vehicle, this gets worse the higher the rank you play at.

>>2635516
>>2635809
Ahh. Did we ever see the Blood/RoTT people in-game? RoTT had a guy and a girl on the box art… don’t remember any Build engine games with a female protagonist
also I didn’t recall RoTT as a build engine game and looked it up, it was actually Wolf3d
You now remember Ken’s Labyrinth

>>2636271
when your tank hitpoints reach 0 you die irl
read termins of service noob

>>2636271
Comparing old WoT to new, the player base is more skilled now because they’ve been playing the same game for 15 years. Like back in the day I’d be drunk tanking and constantly yolo pushing like a retard and I’d have a win rate in the mid 50s. Now I do the same shit and, although I can occasionally pull off something clever and carry a match when the stars align and I luck out, I’m a solid 49% mediocre player
Players at high tiers 10 seem to take the game more seriously and play “better” in the sense that they’re cautious and expose themselves less and play more patiently

>>2636931
Chick is from Ion Fury (Ion maiden before iron maiden had a hissy fit)
It was the first build engine game released in decades some 7 years ago

Should I grind the Minotauro line? I want to have fun.

>King Tiger, as a tier 8 German heavy, can equip a vstab
>American heavies can equip a vstab a tier early, at 7, for reasons
>Captured King Tiger, a tier 7 American heavy, cannot equip a vstab
Make it make sense bros

>>2639753
>>American heavies can equip a vstab a tier early, at 7, for reasons
historically accurate with the gyroscopic short-stop stabilizer :)

Running the game on linux currently.
Previously
>220s FPS
>rarely any hard framedrops
Now
>FPS dependant on how many tanks are in my Field of vision
>220s staring at the ground in front of me
>80s in preptime
>40s in gameplay
>frequent framedrops and freezes any time
On one side it's a motivator to do arty missions, on the other, nothing else is possible. I'm doing the standard ProtonDB steps and went further with my own, but it's terrible. Anyway went to T8 french arty in the few days of play I've had since reinstalling.

>>2640927
>On one side it's a motivator to do arty missions
I started doing the campaign missions and reluctantly started playing arty to do so
Genuinely wish I hadn’t started any of the campaigns and never had them in the back of my mind as I played

>didn't get my HEATbux in WoWS
kinda mad now
wonder if I should bother support since I'm certain I logged in before the deadline

I used to think I was a heavy tank, but after some self reflection I've realised I'm a wheeled medium tank.

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>>2631947
>Nu Wang instead of Lo Wang in that gif

>drowned myself navigating the bank on big ensk award

>>2645021
You turn like a boat?

>>2645282
This is also true yes

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your thoughts?

>>2645966
dangerously based. probably pushes arty and only shoots at lights as well.

>>2646403
he didn't really do much shooting at all

>>2645966
Would rather not have him on my team honestly

>>2645966
That’s like 15 games/day in that tank alone, every day since the beta ended. Gotta be a bot.

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>raises spork
>erm, THAT just happened

>>2647336
Oh, I was supposed to grind that
ah well

>>2647378
you get a pretty cool camo as well, I legitimately don't know when I unlocked it

>>2645966
Probably plays as a backline sniper

Thoughts on the Medved? I already have the Toro for Tier 9 burst fire fun, might just leave it at that until the Kame comes in.

>>2648641
I think the general impression was it's a pretty mediocre tank that only functions as a brawler. It has poor dispersion/accuracy (0.45) so you're not going to land the entire four round burst unless you're in close, but it also has a pretty long intra-clip (3.75) while not being a particularly fast heavy. Basically you are hoping to be in the right position at the right time (you can influence this to some degree with good game sense) and then when someone in a tank with a longer reload fires you all-in them and kill them before pulling back. If you can't make opportunities like that it doesn't trade very well (3.75 means only someone overextended or tracked is going to take follow up shots,) or do well at mid-range (0.45 accuracy means you're only landing 2, maybe 3 shells out of 4)
The armor is also very mediocre for the close range playstyle - the hull isn't good, at all, and the turret has both a large cupola and a viewport weakpoint that prevent you from sitting hull-down and dumping your mag at your leisure
I think it's still a playable tank, if you got it from a lootbox, but I don't know that I'd direct purchase it. It's certainly nothing like a Skoda T56 or the Kame.

>>2648661
Yeah pretty much my thoughts, I'll play Toro if I feel like similar gameplay at tier 9 while credit grinding.

>>2648641
it means bear in russian

>>2649074
>name the tank "bear" and give it brawling stats
>give it a tissue paper hull so it can't actually brawl
bravo WG

>>2649133
>name tank rinoceronte
>:(

>>2649159
>name tank "Rhinoceros"
>it has a horn that's a weakpoint
It's like pottery, it rhymes

>name tank predatore
>doesn't hunt children
????

>name a tank "Maus"
>contrary to it's name it's actually pretty big

>>2649333
it kills light tanks o algo

>name tank Iosef Stalin
>it’s a tank, not actually Stalin
>name tank Ferdinand
>my local Porsche dealership kicks me out for demanding a test drive

Got the Executor and I think it's the best tier 11 I've got so far, it actually feels like a full upgrade compared to the tier 10, rather than slightly worse but with a gimmick.

>>2654780
Many are saying this

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I'm starting to regret getting the Lion
It fucking sucks, it's the least accurate "Sniper" tank I have ever played, it has the gun handling of a fucking heavy tank

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>>2655380
loadout / crew for lion?
if you have the resources to get an assembly tank in the first place you better be blinging that shit out
anything less and you are trolling / didn't do your research beforehand

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>>2655380
In crew skills, your main goal is Offroad driving, bottom of the barrel soft resistance. As a medium you can double bush for Camo, it could be your 3rd skill.
>>2655743
Rotation Mechanism brings down the factors very slightly, but worsens them by increasing rotation speed. They work off each other. So With your slow aim time it'll be worse with IRM. Use HP and especially T3 Survivability for tracks.

The K91 line feels very weird to play. T7 has 235 Gold pen, T8 330 but that never improves up to T10. The T8 even has Light amounts of Camo with 2.5k DPM. Overall strange line.

>>2655895
IRM reduces dispersions on driving forward when you are not turning and guess what you are doing 99% of the time in a combat med when you are peeking over hills or chasing someone down

It also reduces after fire dispersion, even with 4.5 second intraclip it helps because having a smaller bloom means your movement and turret traversing on said bloom will be miles more manageable than if you were using IRM-less build like hardening

IRM or hardening is playstyle diff but I vastly prefer comfortable gun than more hard stats

>>2655743
>>2655895
my crew skills are identical, except I have comms expert as a radio skill
I drive it with bond vents, CVS and exp turbo, I never expect anyone to spot and I'm 99% proven right, ultra gun handling build will not work for me

>>2656467
>tank with mediocre gun
>why gun mediocre
>no gun improvements
At least when I get 750DPM I understand why

>>2656482
listen man, this is MY BUCKET and it is COZY

>>2656467
If you are playing spotter bitch build as main loadout why did you even get lion in the first place
20 iq choice

>>2656467
>vents/CVS
just play something else at this point
I have a gun handling build and I like my Lion, it's a fun auto-reloader with a pretty snappy gun (if built for it) that lets you pump DPM on the second shell like a reverse auto-reloader with an emergency shot in reserve
Reverse auto-reloaders (and auto-reloaders in general) are very powerful and usually pay really heavily for it, so considering the Lion's surprisingly okay turret, mobility, and usable gun handling it's in a pretty nice place for what it is

Why would I play the tier 11 Leo over the tier 10?

>>2657779
You wouldn't, WG failed to design a meaningful T11 and in fact made it worse than the T10
Not every T11 is a winner

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What is even the point of this thing anymore? Playing tier V is like jamming broken glass in your pisshole. Wargaming got their money and won. The people who bought it have all fused into their computer chairs with 10k+ battles pissing everyone off. Everything that needs to be said about it has already been said. Just delete everything tier 6 and below and admit you never cared.

>>2658393
the funny thing is you could move it to T6 and it'd just ruin T6 MM instead

I've been blackpilled, played a bunch of tier 11 games yesterday and it's boring as shit compared to tiers 6-9.

>>2659468
tier 11 is okay if you want to dodge arty games but WOT is pretty boring at this point in the year

>>2658393
I play tier 5 all the time with my GuPpie tanks and as long as you actually play the game properly lefniggers can't even splash you

>>2658393
>Playing tier V is like jamming broken glass in your pisshole
There was a time… many years ago… when tier 5 was fun… and everyone played it…

>>2658393
Funnily enough just played a tier 5 game during my USA triangle grind, the Lefh in it got 7 kills.

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>oyster bay
>amx M4 and 268/4 overlooking central mountain corridor, IS-7 and minotauro staring back
>I go in the hulldown lane
>fight schwertwall to standstill
>AMX and 268/4 join me
>entire enemy team pours through the middle pass
>ded within seconds
very cool, it looked like a 3 stooges bit, except I'm not laughing

>>2660494
I go down that middle pass all the time 2-3 minutes into the match and there's only ever one lone TD/medium there.

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>Enemy XM57 sitting in the redline behind a bush on redshire (castle side)
>Ammo racked
BACK TO THE GARAGE I GUESS

I know this game has engagement based pen/aim rng, I just can't prove it.

>>2661006
The rng for hitting/penning is 50/50
You either hit/pen or you don't

I have no mods installed, any that you think are must haves? I'm not that interested in seeing who on my team is a tomato and who has 100k games though desu

>>2636271
It's the silver economy that rapes you even with 'premium'

>>2637704
>minotauro

Just do E4 for the front line heavy-support td memes, the clip reload's too long, the Alpha too low until IX and no one respects your 'armor', especially downtiered

>>2661006
>kill shots low rolling or flying off into space

There's every gacha gambling incentive for soft rigging with inappropriate non-mirrored matchups already, and probably the main reason for the Player Rating system itself. If you have enough credits, you can have only good matchmaking by simply noping out to the garage.

>>2670229
>simply noping out to the garage
I wish they'd permaban retards like you

>>2670157
personal mission reset for the 279e campaign
static ammo indictator that tells you the base reload time of whoever shot you in personalized chat (doesn't account for rammer / active skills and not counting down real time so its legal)

I don't like tier 8. I don't like trying to grind up my dinky little tech tree stock tanks going up against premiums. Please tell me I'm not wasting my time and it gets better at tier 9 and 10.

>>2673935
T8 is an absolute shitshow, T10 is infinitely more balanced

world of tanks heat

>>2682734
For me, its APCR

>>2682734
>world of tanks in heat

https://worldoftanks.com/en/news/updates/2-3-1-CT/
>looking at update 2.3.1 notes
>new mission called crucible
>that entire third bullet point
ummm wtf?
are they really trying to bleed out more credit or even gold/bonds from players?
i no lifed the entire black rock campaign in a month but i might not really try these missions past the first attempt if the rewards are ass and/or if the reqs are cancer to achieve in a short amount of games

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also
>last stand has automatic voice chat on
time to COD it up

>>2673935
onslaught light is coming back next update
do all your tier 8 grinding or credit grind there

>>2684622
sex with medium tanks

>>2686280
Sex with heavy tanks. Make sure you’re packing enough penetration

>>2655926
E-25s with turrets, some side scrape memes at VII & IC

is squall worth it if im a very inconsistent player and i would like to have fun while farming credits?

>>2690302
Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrt

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>>2690302
do you have 4 skill crew
do you run food
do you have pink optics at least
do you have knowledge of anti scouting
do you autisically know map positioning for 40+ maps and most of the bushes for big scout tanks
do you know which armor profile you can pen with 50mm HE
do you have a thick skin to endure people yelling at you in chat for not suiscouting

if you answered no to any of the following questions, then do not redeem
blesk is better and free anyways while being almost economically profitable due to cheap shells

>>2690417
>if you answered no to any of the following questions, then do not redeem
gorgeous thanks sir

>>2690417
It's actually not that bad I think people think Squall's camo rating is WAY worse than it actually is
No, you're not outspotting a stationary Even 90, but I catch them out of position SURPRISINGLY often and they get deleted by an HE clip
And against other LTs that aren't braindead, you can scout surprisingly well. It's a bit fat to be a proper active scout (but you can still get away with a decent amount of stuff as long as you're doing it defensively) but if you take the right positions you're far from being a retarded pseudo-med that gets spotted from the moon by heavies (looking at you, Blackdog!)

>>2690302
>inconsistent player
Maps are inconsistent. Try to do well on Prok and Mali.
>>2690417
>>2691310
Bounty Low Noise, BiA, Camo, Paint
Even 90: 52.8%
Blest & Squall: 45.65%
LT432: 46.28%
Both above 36%, meaning a double bush necessitates proxyspotting. See iyouxin spreadsheet. You are basically equal to an LT432. Same view range as well. Absolutely workable.

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>>2691310
the average player can't scout because they crutched too hard on elc even 90 and manticore that they feel other lights are too large, but i don't blame them too much

i have experience in anti-scouting and playing big chassis LTs but that's like 1000 games over a decade. i'm always going to ask people what they know before going into LT assassins, let alone the light tank class.

we have 44 maps, 2 spawns each so you have to memorize the right bush angles per side, decent understanding of the camo system, the game sense to predict how the game could play out in 2 minutes / enemy positioning AND have a competent enough team to plug gaps or help you out

the knowledge gap and economy/crew requirement to get into decent LT gameplay is frankly crazy and i never tell new and/or bad players to play LT ever in current WOT unless they are REALLY in love with WOT or are jumping through the hoops for tank campaign missions

>>2690302
If you don't care about your WoT rating and like being a sneaky assassin then yes it can be fun.

Why no premium shartillery anymore? They don't have to be busted I just want to earn some creds whilst clicking.

>>2694083
I suggest you impale yourself ass first on the nearest bollard

>>2694231
If you don't like them then don't play the game.

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I enjoy watching the other LT's on my team die doing stupid shit when I'm playing a light.

>team mate doesn't move or do anything until you die, then goes in allowing the enemy to defeat you one at a time
Why do they do this?

>>2695408
wot is a retard game populated by retards
always has been

Any wz-132-1 enjoyers in the chat?

>>2695943
I haven't played a Ch*nese tank since the Type 59 in 2013 and I'm not about to start now

>>2694083
Because Wargambling has forgotten how to make a unique tank without making it overpowered. I could imagine a T8 premium artillery
>5shot autoloader
>2s interclip
>4-5s stun
>less stun per repeat-hit
>low damage
>slow reload
>very fast shell speed
>good accuracy
You have a tank that has to move positions and can't just hit over mountains, which also can't be dodged well and really only exists to make those "Stun multiple enemies" missions less annoying. And its gimmick of having that unique stun falloff makes it less like a TX french arty. So no focusfire.

>>2695943
I wouldn't know, I stopped at the WZ-131 because I do so well in it I'm scared about tiering up.

>>2636931
>Did we ever see the Blood/RoTT people in-game?
Yes. Blood guy you see yourself in the mirror a few dozen times in-game. and RoTT you have a character select screen and pick which character/class you want to be (everyone picks the fastest one cuz if you dont there are some secrets you cant get)

PSA: I spam camouflage on every tank because it looks cool, but just learned last night that not only does each camo have three different size scales for the pattern, some camos have multiple different color combinations you can swap between.

Oof that Far Cry tank looks rough, good dpm but a bloody massive cupola on top

>>2706118
Maybe, but there are a lot of tanks with massive cupolas that do well (e.g. the Renegade, even if it's less popular now)
I think it has SPHT HE pen so it's sort of the poor mans SPHT? It also has a workable turret if you're working a ridgeline, you can never hide the cupola but you're not going to get hit in it every single time ever if you aren't exposed for significant amount of time (and it has decent enough gun handling for peekaboo)

>>2707474
I might get it actually as they say the gun handling is going to be improved on release as well as HP up to 2000. Think QB also said HE was going to be 150 pen which is nice. That cupola is bullshit though, but you can't have everything. You can just play smart and do some good trades with the DPM and you'll earn a lot of credits plus bonds.

>>2707501
It already has 0.16/0.16/0.08 on Tanks.gg which is pretty usable, if they improve that further AND give it 2000 HP there's no way it won't be good
Giving it a tiny or non-existent cupola with the otherwise pretty solid turret face (granted it suffers a bit if you're using gun depression and expose the bottom of it) would make it a bit TOO good

>>2695943
I'm too chickenshit to buy it, does it have a big boom at least?

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>>2707474
>>2707501
>M-VII-Y
no
everyone comparing M-VII-Y to SPHT are retarded because it's missing 10 km/h and a ton of engine power, otherwise you might as well start calling GSOR the TANK a poor mans SPHT too

M-VII-Y doesn't have troll armor like the SPHT does against regular rounds nor the mobility or low profile to play like a crackhead around hard cover
ignoring the obvious commander cupola weakspot, the turret curves downward like maus so even f2poors can lob shots near the turret ring for RNG pen

go play AE Phase 1 if you want to play a tier 9 USA heavy that sits like a hulldown bitch. at least AE Phase 1 get 340 HEAT pen while being a free tank from battlepass...

>>2708538
its a comfy damage dealing light similar to the german equivalent in how it plays

The Leox is so fucking good bros, I wish I could add it to my garage permanently.

>>2711462
>I wish I could add it to my garage permanently.
Isn't there someone else you forgot to ask?

>>2631947
why did you dumb nuiggers make a WoT thread that looks like it's for a game that is actually good?

>>2714455
The Wheel of Time game sucked.

>>2714455
Blow it out your ass

E 90 is awful, don't buy it. You're a meatball with zero carry potential. Anyone can pen you by pressing 2.

>>2716423
Got it in boxes and my impression of it was this is just a fat slow grom with bad matchmaking.
So it's ok but I wouldn't grind credits in it given the choice.

I'm getting so tired of this game, trying to grind but so much of your XP is dependant on the 14 other mongoloids you get paired with. Can literally earn more by sitting back and doing jack shit than by sweating if the 50/50 goes your way. Think I'd just prefer War Thunder where win gets you a bonus but individual performance counts for a lot more.

>>2716423
How much do the other two suck? Asking for a friend

>>2716740
Mitlerer is a 122TM that trades armor and gun depression over the side for nothing.
T3 Jager is just a bigger worse shitpack without the HE gimmick.

>>2716740
The mkpz is too team dependant, you will need to use your team as extra hitpoints to be able to deliver more than 2 shots per battle
The gun handling fucking sucks and you will be severely punished for missing any shots
You have heavy tank mobility and view range, at the cost of uhhhh...

>we're doing last stand AGAIN
Bro I JUST lost my fucking mind over this mode like a month ago? And now I have to go through the torture gauntlet AGAIN in JULY? What the fuck are their plans for October???

>>2717453
Probably back to back or even overlapping waffentrager and mirny

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I started going to E3 assuming I will have teammates
I wish I had teams that wouldn't abandon 2/3 of the map

Crucible is a toxic addition and I will be ignoring it entirely.

>>2723562
>Crucible is a toxic addition and I will be ignoring it entirely.
I wish I had never started these fucking campaign missions and was just playing the game like a normal retard.

>>2723712
Playing like a normal retard is much more preferable to me. I've got the Dravec and about half the Black Rock so far but have completely ignored the missions for that too, I just randomly complete them by playing normally.

>>2724065
>Playing like a normal retard is much more preferable to me. I've got the Dravec and about half the Black Rock so far but have completely ignored the missions for that too, I just randomly complete them by playing normally.
wtf, are you me?

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>>2723562
i think these are doable for me, but i did nolife nearly the entire black rock campaign in a month
i'll do them later. right now the entire playerbase should be competing for damage so its gonna suck.

the tier 3 experimental mobility system and the 6-skilled crew seems very tempting. i don't care for crew books or bonds

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>>2725970
... fuck. it's been a while since i did a high caliber mission
what did you guys use? are there any tier restrictions, i can't find info online?

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>>2726104
i threw
tier 7 is my go-to tier but ever since the matchmaking rework i keep getting downtiered to tier 8 matches
tried MBT-B but i'm not cracked enough to pull off 7k games

Looking for tech tree advice on which lines are worth grinding up to play for fun. Currently my only tier 10 is the IS-7. Most of these lines I have ground up to tier 8 or so. Main lines:
TDs:
>T110E4
Heavies:
>T110E5
>E100
Mediums:
>M48 Patton
>E50M
>Obj. 140
Lights:
>Sheridan
>T-100 LT
>Rhm. Pzw.
>Tesak
Side branch lines for later down the road:
>T57 Heavy
>Ares
>Maus (though I really didn’t enjoy the Vk 100 p, maybe superheavies aren’t for me)
>Leopard I
>IS-4
>Obj. 430U?

>>2726850
do you use food?
do you fire gold? if you don't, do you have intuition trained?
for lights - how much knowledge do you have about the camo system and map positioning? can you ignore your team yelling at you for not playing their way?

for fun is also somewhat subjective. do you aggro and try to break enemy positioning, or are you more comfortable with hanging back and punishing misplays?

>>2726850
>T110E5
Kind of pointless now that both Soup conq and canopener exist, it's a solid choice nevertheless since the turret weakspot is a 50/50 chance to bounce standard ammo
>M48 Patton
Very limited by the mobility, but exceptional gun handling and can outspot reckless LTs, if you know how to play big soft tanks, you will prosper in it
>Obj. 140
Very little downsides, but the downside that exists is a big one - the fuel tanks are next to the driver, you will need to run fire extinguisher with it
>Ares
Despite the nerfs the T11 is still a death machine, but you will be punished for overexposing
>Leo
If you don't know how to use your team as extra HP, you will be punished
Excellent spotter if you find yourself without lts

>>2726850
Good selection.
IS-4 is pretty outdated and not worth.
Consider getting some other autoloaders like batchat and 50b, or some slightly different mediums like the CS-63.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgUDx7HDRkg

Pretty much can pay 250 gold for 250 bonds now

>>2727307
wait. the fucking stage 1 and 2 rewards reset?
i have 5k gold. i'm super tempted to burn all of them into components so i can stop doing the side mode treadmill

>>2727316
i just calculated that i can convert 5500 gold into 9000 components
i'm so doing this

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>back to back ace 6k damage games
one was in T8, I'm afraid to play now

can you do the crucible missions in a lef?

So tired of grinding out the Gorilla, don't really like the play style of the E4, don't know why I started. I thought the alpha of the T-30 would be fun and it is at times but it's very situational. Should be done soon then I think I'll grind the Leopard 1, definitely more my type of vehicle.

>>2726850
>M48 Patton

IX's stronger, meme counter spotting vision maxxing can be fun and effective. Just get M60 in the bond shop.

Heavies: China rockets might be memeable if you enjoy IS-7. Czech heaviums. Soviet double barrels & Polish brappers.

Mediums: 430's a nice minimal modules grind. Weak frontal fuel tank/ammorack Worth hardening if brawling.

Lights: Sheri brass are func; Rhm >T-100 roach AIDS gun depression for DPM memes and higher pen HE. Brit one for max camo.

SIDE:
>MAUS: Piñatas, XI sort if worth it. IX reverse turret Maus thing for bonds has better turret than Maus itself. Jap overmatch if you want to do doom turtle stuff.

>LEO
Get the old French IX/10 in Collector's Vehicles then decide on grind. If you dont care for Lights, similar playstyle challenges.

>IS4
Hell no never. Double barrels are fun at least.

>>2731845
Is it true that the Gorilla’s cope cages are fixed color regardless of the camo skin applied? That’s a dealbreaker for me

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>>2733163
IS-4 got gutted like hell with armor flashlight
it's still one of the few heavy tanks that can bounce things sidescraping but TDs got a heavy increase in penetration consistency with colored areas and more and more people are getting aware of the turret ring weakspot

>>2734610
I don't have the gorilla, but I've noticed that if a camo (2d style) changes the color of the wheels, it changes the underlying base color which includes all things not affected by camos in general

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>>2734610
>Is it true that the Gorilla’s cope cages are fixed color regardless of the camo skin applied? That’s a dealbreaker for me
ya

Do you think most players actually look at the map?

>>2734610
Finally ground it out, it's quite the upgrade over the E4 so happy about that, more speed and armour. Did 4k in my first game with 0 rank crew and no upgrades and made a profit too by just firing standard ammo. The cage stays the same colour as the other guy said but that doesn't really bother me.

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anyone feel tempted to nuke their garage?
i don't play very often anymore, and when i do it's only for 2 to 5 games on a select few comfort tanks
i have an entire garage of kitted out tier 10 that i don't play, even when onslaught was going on. with tier 11 being boring due to lack of tank variety and tier 9 and 10 getting flooded with prem tanks, i'm honestly thinking about allocating all those bond equipments to tiers 6 and 7

i have 36 tier 8 to 11 tanks. i can only play one tank at a time. why do i even have garage queens sitting around, when i don't open the game as much anymore?

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by the way, any professional TOG II gamers?
bond turbo for the extra 1 km/h or T3 experimental turbo for faster rotation?
does TOG take a lot of module damage?

>>2736970
I probably wouldn't bother putting fancy equipment on the TOG II, it's a meme pick you drag out every once in a while for fun not a tank you try to hyper minmax to hard carry matches with
You have fuckall armor with no flexibility and not even a bond turbo/T3 Exp Turbo is going to make you move fast enough to avoid soaking hits
I think it takes an average amount, you don't really need Experimental Config if that's what you're asking. Hardening, (Bounty) Turbo since I think you can dismount that for a kit and a rammer. The gun handling isn't great but the tank also doesn't move fast enough to bloom it enough to need vert stabs and 0.35 is enough you don't need to be running something like aiming. Your terrain resist is good enough you don't need grousers on hard/medium so off-road will get you moving at your full 19km/h. In fact your resists are good enough compared to your top speed/PW I might take Lightweight for the durability.

>>2736970
Put whatever you want on there, none of it can protect you from clickers.

The Indian Panzer is so crap, this line had better be worth it.

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new/returning player here (yes, unironically), haven't played in years, never made it past tier 9 (got a e75, liked that tank) for """"germany""""" and t32 for usa
what are currently the best heavy trees for people like me? looking into it I assume IS-7 (obv) and WZ-111 5A which is essentially the chink version of the soviet line I guess, mostly interested in heavy tanks or TDs that play like heavies
my rationale being that E100 is just too damn slow while the t110e5 has the small turrent and I don't want to deal with that shit right now which is why I won't be getting them as T10s any time soon so my only options are all-around strong and easy to use tanks that also don't have a dogshit line (that I can't skip for free exp since I have almost none left) so I can focus on learning the game
I haven't played in 3ish years, any big changes to progression/game mechanics that I should be aware of?

>>2739108
IS-7 is not new player friendly anymore because it needs field mods to reduce the terrain resist stat, but you have to research the tier 11 at 325k exp first

How much credits do you have? Are you okay with switching to gold ammo to penetrate modern meta armor, or are you a 100% silver ammo only player?

>>2739150
>How much credits do you have?
around 1.5 millies
>Are you okay with switching to gold ammo to penetrate
uh yeah if I have to

more than a new player friendly tank I just need a tank that will allow me to make some mistakes, the two tech trees where I got ahead are not ending with those kind of tanks, besides what would be a new player friendly tank anyway, you are getting there with shit crew, no good equipment and all that, you are fucked whatever you choose

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>>2739197
before i write down what tech tree tanks seem good for a new player, turn on the armor flashlight in settings first. this is not enabled by default for returning players

this was introduced last october during the big version 2.0 update. it significantly reduced the knowledge gap required for tier 8+ gameplay, but has the side effect of non-meta tanks having significantly worse armor efficiency.

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>>2739596
>I just need a tank that will allow me to make some mistakes
the nature of high tier battles does not really allow mistakes to happen anymore compared to even 3 years ago.
the high tier tanks WG releases and what the playerbase settles on are BIG alpha single firing tanks that will slam 500+ damage into you, or autoloaders that dump 800 to 1600 damage into you in about 8 seconds

these are the current tech tree tanks that could be considered "new player friendly". the japanese superheavy line is the strongest tech tree line that holds their own against all the premium tank / gold spam ever since their giga buffs a while ago

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>>2739626
If you are merely looking for a comfortable tech tree grind over a strong individual tank, consider these following lines
>Object 432u (Russian med)
>Object 140 (Russian med)
>Type 5 H (Japan heavy)
>Batchat 25T (French med), but the tier 11 sucks
>E100 (German heavy), but you've already did this line

or do what everyone else does and buy one strong premium tank for cash and be done with it

>make one over peek/mistake
>the MBT-B or Blackrock magdumps you and you lose your entire tank instantly

>>2739649
idk if I'd call the Batchat line comfortable considering it's an LT line into a MT line at T9 and requires good map awareness and game sense
Instead I'd be tempted to recommend Polish mediums which are mostly solid and have a T11, British mediums which are pretty okay nowadays even if the Cent 1 is dogshit, and maybe even Swedish cheesewedge mediums

>>2739657
I've had this twice in the last couple days, in super hellkitty and m41 bulldog. Just full HP to garage before there's even the sixth sense alert

>>2739663
he said he wanted to focus on learning the game so i thought batchat 25t qualified
tier 8 environment is a little easier to learn light tank gameplay that you can carry over to medium gameplay and/or autoloader gameplay
>>>>>polish mediums (CS-63)
FUCK no
i went through that in 2020 as a yellow player during their release year and i struggled hard in that shit line
dogshit stock grind
dogshit accuracy that you need field mods to fix
dogshit armor profile

i will never suggest this tech tree line to a beginner, especially not in 2026 meta and where both teams are comprised of 70% premium tanks

>>2739679
they fixed stock grinds thoughbeit
>dogshit accuracy
CS-59 is 0.36 on 14/14/10, CS-63 is 0.35 on 12/12/6
Are you trying to fire from the turbo mode or something?

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>>2739663
also
>British mediums which are pretty okay nowadays even if the Cent 1 is dogshit, and maybe even Swedish cheesewedge mediums
guess what happened to the effectiveness of these tech tree armor profile when armor flashlight got introduced
centurions get gold spammed on the flat side on the turret and gold mantlet.
udes has no one shooting regular ammo at it anymore. the entire hull gets HEAT spammed now with giant "fuck me here in the green areas" no matter how you angle

i miss the udes 16. one of the tanks i had to stop playing when 2.0 hit

>>2739697
Centurions never had especially good turrets, the Action X is good in spite of the turret and not because of it

>>2739691
>Are you trying to fire from the turbo mode or something?
... do i look retarded enough for you to suggest that i do that?
i can go 70 km/h on a object 260 meme grouser build with no vstabs and have no issues with gun accuracy.

CS-63 i had to grind out the entire 225k exp on field mods for slightly usable accuracy WITH bond vstabs because the paper stats on the gun is a lying piece of shit that goes straight into the round despite playing in regular mode at 60 km/h.

when did you go though the polish medium grind? i admit i'm hella biased because i did them 5 years ago, but it was one of the shittiest tech tree grinds that triggered the fuck out of me

>>2739713
>... do i look retarded enough for you to suggest that i do that?
Never ask questions you don’t want answered

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>>2743129
look in the mirror bud
i'm not the one suggesting polish mediums to a person that haven't even touched tier 10s
not even content creators or the braindead retards on reddit do... so what are you genuinely on if all spectrums of the playerbase doesn't endorse polish meds?

also, trying to upplay the szakal as a worthy tier 11 grind is insane when the t11 executor exists now

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>weekly misson
>destroy immobilized tanks with french heavy tanks
>garage - 0 french HTs
>reroll
>destroy enemy tanks on the move with polish TDs
>garage - 0 polish TDs
very cool, thanks

the real answer is to never bother with tier 10 because it's filled with boring sweaty tryhards

>>2744033
T10 is where everything breaks down actually, T10 players are worse than T8

>>2744033
I’ve been getting more annoyed with the premium tank spam in tier 9 and 10. Too many people getting carried in their overtuned tanks with armor flashlight handholding all of them through engagements.

>>2658393
they just need to nerf its reload and range and it will make everyone of those seal clubbers sell them
but even in a lose game, t5 still makes the most money

>>2658393
or
you can just play t8 like everyone else

>>2744558
Premium TDs and SPGs should’ve gotten the same class-wide nerfs as the non-premiums. It’s incredibly stupid that they didn’t.

>>2745176
that is just the E25, 122-44 and lefh
the only change the lefh needs is to spawn in the middle of malinovka every time

Obj 140 vs 430U
Which one is a better choice?

>>2754600
different playstyles, not comparable

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For me it's the Leo 1, the most perfect tank in the game, simple as.

Why is it sometimes when I die it shows me an exact replay of how I died, how I was hit, angle of projectile etc and sometimes it doesn't?

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come on man, fucking really?
the last battle was just me watching my team snatch defeat from the jaws of victory

>>2755287
depends on if the enemy was spotted
the replay won't give away the position of a bushed up TD sniping from the back of the map

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Is hulldown cupola sniping supposed to be fun?
>Okay now load gold and watch the shell fly over their 1 nanometer weakspot three times and you both rock back and forth a lot until someone dies

>>2755692
it's why I don't enjoy playing heavy tanks, I can't deal with the "jerking off hulldown/behind cover and sniping cupolas" stage of the game.

this crucible shit sucks hard

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tell me about version 2.I only logged in for the free tier 10 and other goodies when I got the news notif. last I played I enjoyed the big map respawn mode since one life is my biggest gripe with f2p games. Nice to see wot trying to differ itself from wt with fantastical elements.
yes I bought the french SPG line it was a very funny purchase
yes Ive never obtained a t10 (I got filtered by the t6 grind and jumped to wows back in the day)

>>2756195
this as well. I hated that wows also had the hide behind a hill(island) and spam for damage. I stopped caring and grinded to the t6 american spg. just to blast the 5 heavy tanks sitting behind the hill. Its unfortunate that both wot and wows had this oppertunity to make a non realistic power fantasy where you can TANK in heavy tanks or in batleships and couldnt see it though. I kinda understand it though, dps vehicles need something to dps, and the big gun heavy hitting heavy tanks want to fight eachother so everyone is gunning to kill the big guys and crashing the gameplay (with no survivors)

>>2756443
t8* aha. funny big gun 30 second gameplay just like my ship game. kinda wonder if i should have gotten the brit spg just for the better firing arcs. how is the spg cancer these days?

PSA: I wanted to farm some six skill regular crew members by taking zero skill crews, feeding them books until 6.51 megaexperience, then using mentoring licenses to feed them into regular crew. Alas, it doesn't count the zero perk XP, so it just spits out a regular crew with the book XP you fed to the zero skill crew.

alright man

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>>2755692
no but if you are trying to be economical then you have to aim for cupola or overpeek to try and find silver ammo weakspots on their hulls, but WG is currently buffing the fuck out of lower plates to be invulernable to silver ammo

>>2756195
>it's why I don't enjoy playing heavy tanks, I can't deal with the "jerking off hulldown/behind cover and sniping cupolas" stage of the game.
i hate it too
these are the heavies left in my garage after i did my purge a few days ago. these tanks are ones that can forcibly create positive trading situations and/or are heavily armored in the front

i even sold my dravec and black rock. literally not fun to push in and i didn't touch black rock at all after researching the modules tree

>>2755692
>load gold
If you're loading gold it's to go through their turret face and not deal with cupola sniping, if you can't pen their cupola with standard rounds then honestly just leave and go to a different flank or fall back and wait for them to get bored and overpush
Yes, the gameplay can be mind-numbingly fucking dogshit at times welcome to modern WoT where a single mistake means instantly getting by three different guys for 800, 1000 and 400+400 in the span of three seconds and dying before you can even do anything about it so you sit hull down with your pixel thin cupola staring at their pixel thin cupola and trying to decide if it's worth wasting several rounds to try to hit it

>>2756443
idk I think you can, or at least could before the insane DPM/fire creep, tank in battleships pretty decently
the state of Battleships back in say 2018 was pretty fucking good, your Montana could take a lot of punishment if you angled it properly and didn't let a Yamato citfuck you.
WoT sorta had that too with stuff like the Maus before gold ammo for credits was a thing (and even lower tier stuff like the KV menace back before pen creep invalidated its armor) but I don't know that WoT ever did the armored behemoth tanking huge amounts of fire as good as WoWS did. In tanks you need the right tank, often hyper-specific map positioning and somewhat stupid enemies. In WoWS you just needed good game sense, positioning that wasn't braindead (but you didn't have to hide behind one very specific island on the map to tank millions of HP in a BB) and away you went. The longer TTK helps, even a shitty Kurfurst player in a bad position against competent players would usually last longer than a bad Maus player caught out of position (although that becomes less and less true with each Hawaii or Bremen they add to the game)

>Heavies : fun for those still quite new to the game/want to be powerful
>Mediums : fun for those with good game sense/OK at the game
>Lights : fun for those with good game sense/advanced knowledge of the game
>Triangles : fun for pussies that like to camp and wait for enemies to drive in front of them for 5 minutes at a time
>Squares : fun for absolute degenerates

It's similar to World of Warships. Everyone starts with Battleships because they want to be play big powerful vehicles, but the more you play you learn that cruisers and destroyers are where the real fun is.

>>2757570
imagine playing croozers in the big '26 man

Has anyone played WoT Blitz? Kind of need a change from normal WoT, want to start grinding something new.

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bro's mad lmao
>>2757711
I remember trying it and I thought having no arty was cool since you could actually play the game at least
it's still full of infuriating bullshit (as anything with a wargaming stamp on it), if you are good in regular wot you will also be good in blitz and vice-versa

>>2757711
I'm not playing a mobile game

>50% off a T-34-3
Damn, they really want you to buy something

>>2760486
Both of my fishing offers have been tanks I already have. There's only one tank on the list that I am willing to buy. Just let me buy it, you fucks. There's a non-zero chance that it will never roll for me during the event, and they'll get $0 from me instead of a non-zero amount of "Federal" "Reserve" notes.

Talk me out of buying the caliban

>>2762293
Don't buy the caliban.

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Any advice for completing this mission?

>>2762293
It looks fun, but I refuse to play Br*tish tanks.

Noticed something interesting last night. I have the client side and server side crosshairs enabled, and I was peeking from behind a rock and had a clear shot, client side, on an enemy. But the server side reticle was stuck on the rock, even while stationary (not a latency issue). Then, peeking slightly further forward let the server reticle clear the rock. Repeated it several times for testing. Never seen that behavior before.

>>2762359
pray, read the Talmud, consider trying meditation and therapy, if nothing works then remember that with gambling the only winning move is not to play

Babby’s first onslaught has made me come full circle back around to hardening turbo rammer on everything

>>2762293
premium tanks are slowly approaching the 600 damage AP shell and have bigger burst than caliban magdumping 1200

ares and blesk have taken over as THE tier 8 paper tank killer

gonsalo better

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Udariny first official release? people used to doompost hard about this tier 8 russian tank back in 2022. i'm not sure if its that oppressive now, especially with armor flashlight in the game

>>2764612
sidescraping got a big hit in general and K-2 is better at it. even i had problems trying to get people to bounce off the k-2 side armor so i don't know how effective this armor really is in practice, especially when people intuition switch to gold in like 2 seconds.

udarniy have is-3 level top speed at 45 km/h but you need to meme build turbo and grousers to get it. nearly highest in-class gold shell pen at 285 HEAT pen.

i don't think it's a super good tank for aggro play. if it had more DPM, or better terrain resists i would've bought it as a baby object 260 clone.

The Far Cry tank is actually pretty good, using hardening, rammer and turbo. With the speed you have a few more options than most other heavies.

>>2764612
I bought it, one can never have too many Russian heavy tanks

I honestly only find myself playing the 703 II, I got rid of my IS-6 for it and that was a good trade-in

>>2765473
do you find udarniy fun? what build?

>>2766810
I have not played it yet. Might try it tonight. I slapped tasteful camo on it, threw in hardening/rammer/turbo (I could see hardening/vstab/turbo too but I haven’t looked at the stats yet WG ITS BEEN 15 YEARS WHY ARE THERE STILL HIDDEN STATS I CAN ONLY SEE ON THIRD PARTY WEBSITES), and threw in a brand new crew, which I expect to train in repair then BIA then whatever.
It looks like a standard Russian brawling heavy that can’t hit shit and its gun depression gives you gun depression and its alpha was good for 2014, but has good armor.

>>2768709
I sense a battlepass collaboration coming up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p59keZUG5E
>t. has one tech tree and three premium IS-2s

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>NO YOU CAN'T PUSH THAT FLANK EVEN AFTER WIPING OUT HALF OF THE ENEMY TEAM BECAUSE THERE'S INVISIBLE TD'S BEHIND A ROCK IN A BUSH WAITING FOR YOU TO PUSH YOU HAVE TO SLOWLY AND METHODICALLY CLEAR THE ENTIRE MAP.
>YES THIS IS FUN GAMEPLAY ITS YOUR FAULT FOR TRYING TO PRESS YOUR ADVANTAGE AND GO FAST DON'T YOU KNOW HE PAID 40 DOLLARS FOR THAT TANK HE'S A VERY SPECIAL BOY AND HE FOUND THE BUSH NEXT TO A ROCK SO YOU CAN'T PUSH HIM YOU HAVE TO FLANK. JUST WASTE TIME LOOKING FOR ANOTHER ROUTE THAT ALSO HAS AN INVISIBLE TD WHERE YOU'RE PERMASPOTTED AND THERE'S NO COVER. STOP TRYING TO PUSH THE ENEMY BASE RIGHT NOWWWW

>>2772303
Just play lights bro

>>2772311
>-480
>-750
>*BEEEEEEEEEEP*
>-480
>"BAIL OUT! THIS VEHICLE HAS HAD IT!"

>>2772504
Not my experience, sorry bro

>>2772303
now you understand why people straight up give playing on higher tiers and just go seal clubbing with the leFG (more like leFaggot) just to shit from above on heavy tanks that are acutally trying to play the video game about tanks

>Terrifiant and SZDV
At least these are new(ish) and interesting, but I'm not sure the Terri is worth buying when I'm pretty sure it was basically a sidegrade of the tech tree tank

>>2772303
your object 260??

>>2772504
skill issue frfr

>>2772303
This is worst on Glacier, you win the heavy line and it achieves exactly fuck all.

>>2775329
This is why I yolo push the south lane in glacier
Get a big game or die trying

stuck on final wave for the 2nd difficulty, I like how the turtle enemy doesn't have a frontal weakspot to shoot and they can absolutely obliterate you in 3 shots

Won't be able to play the new mode until tonight. What's the general strategy for it this time around? Last time, settled on a mix of Grom/Turtle/high DPM TDs with armor, and fast mobile snipers like Kpz 07 RH and ShPTK to roam hunt obelisks. And the "fast reload" skill was key to murdering boss from behind.

>sell udarniy
>almost immediately sell the xm57 that can lolpen the upper plate
DEVILISH

>>2780009
*slaps a brand new untrained crew in the ol’ XM57*
Yup, it’s gaming time

>>2779852
Map is more open, AOE abilities defacto nerfed, don't get shot by the turtle special enemy, guaranteed multiple crits on you
Team composition definitely needs a runner to take out the obelisks

not a fan of this DPM race event

So what do we think about the Summer Sale?
I didn't buy anything but at the same time at least they've sold a bunch of interesting tanks.
I'd probably buy both the Latt and the XM57 if I didn't already have both, the Terri was at least new and I don't remember if the Udarniy has been sold either
I haven't fished anything good out of the pond though, has anyone got anything that isn't common? I'm thinking it's probably a determined pool and the only thing that changes is the order each person gets their T-34-3/Skoda T17/Pz58 etc in

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>>2781859
>I'm thinking it's probably a determined pool
the finishing event was full of shitter tanks at 50% off. the only thing there remotely worth it was 59-patton for having comfortable turret dispersion on a DPM medium, and even that got obsoleted by panther 8,8 cm

if i wasn't slowly falling off this game and didn't drop 80 boxes to get an MBT-B from the last scam tiered lootboxes i'd get terrifiant.
improved gun, +2 km/h faster base stats and vastly better acceleration due to terrain is overall an upgrade to big gun AMX M4 51

>>2782047
The thing is though, are the TINY upgrades to the big gun (when small gun M4 51 is usually played anyways) and a LITTLE bit better mobility worth paying for a T9 premium?
It doesn't offer anything that new and it's not really a huge upgrade, I think the niche here is "I love playing big gun M4 51 so much, I just wish I made premium tank income playing it" or maybe "I have my crew in the Fauteur but I really wish I could play my M4 51 again"

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>>2782198
i've played the pre-nerf french heavy line and it could do so much more when it had 40 km/h

terrifiant base speed being 35 km/h is significant in an aggro frontlining vehicle.
when the amx m4 51 got double tapped to 35 km/h to 33 km/h in that big version 2.0 update last october that nerf really hurts.

they tried to justify the speed nerf by buffing the firepower on the big gun amx m4 51 but the terrifiant have an even more improved gun while retaining pre-nerf speed limits and better terrain resists

it's straight up an upgrade along with credit earning potential. the only thing that sucks is weaker armor on corner peeks but the m4 51 upper armor already got lolpen by gold so whatever for the tier 9 french heavies. if i was slamming 100 games a week like last december i would've bought.

the ares 75 oneshots the hedgehogs and HE pens the obelisks, I think it is a much better choice as an obelisk runner than the kpz 07

Thoughts on the Japanese STK-2 line? Worth a grind? I like flexible heavies like Super Conq and E5.

>>2782533
very mid tier VI and VII
picks up at VIII and stays fun
type 71 and stk are just very fat mediums

>>2782403
I’ll try it out but I’m skeptical, I think its sustained DPM will be low. K pz 07 is the best runner I’ve found, better than shptk (too slow) How does it interact with the fast reload skill? Does it drop the heat like in onslaught?

>>2782657
I think the burst damage is a better option to avoid being overwhelmed, but you will not do anything against the boss

>>2772303
I think this problem is highlighted in the new gamemode. that is, the game isnt balanced in a fun way around selfishness. With the ai in the newmode you always see them rushing in and overwhelming from both sides, and it works if you dont have a good team comp. made me wonder? how come no one in the base game plays like this and would rather stack up behind a mound pf dirt with 5 other men? no one wants to be that guy who breaks the stalemate with his body because it simply isnt rewarded. what is rewarded is counterplay against any form of aggression thanks to spgs and module breaking and exposed flanks once you push out of the choke and dabbing that 2 key. oh and getting exp cucked like the free thinking GOY that you are. once again you cant tank in the tank game. theres too much risk in a push that only the most lightest of tank gamers and garage enjoyers can endure, and that psyops the player base to camp bush. there needs to be risk to make risk taking enjoyable but too much risk transforms into restriction. bad plays or bad luck becomes more like punishment. I like how wows rewards you for tanking damage and how you have enough space and time to take risk assessments, but it isnt too lenient since once you commit you cant just turn around and run away.
>>2775329
I loved parking my spg right behind one of the two main lines there and just memeing on the heavies who think youre parked at spawn. lights rushing mid? never 4get theres always a td in the td spot.
i always lament at the state of open maps. like that one with the crashed blimp. they added all these nice hills and village houses but no one uses them and bundles themselves at the blimp or castle. and for me the reason why is that the hills and houses only provide cover from getting shot at from the bases, not the flank. once again wargaming has made a map which funnels everyone away from having any form of divergent gameplay unless youre a suicide light (also known as a pro gamer)

>>2783153
>no one wants to be that guy who breaks the stalemate with his body because it simply isnt rewarded
I do this because I still pretend I’m playing in the beta, drunk tanking in my IS-2 while blaring Daft Punk’s “Essential Selection Hotmix” from 1999, circle strafing and ramming fools and jumping in to buy my teammates time
Ask me about my 49% WR

>>2783397
sub 50% master race reporting in

>>2783737
The funny part is back then I played like a retard and still had an easy 55% win rate, and would marvel about how someone could possibly suck so bad that their presence made their team statistically more like to lose. Well, marvel no more

>>2784542
I'd suicide scout in my Luchs because I didn't know how vision worked and didn't bother to educate myself

>>2782533
There are more impactful carry options for heaviums. But if you want more speed + more turret armor, and a medium favored playstyle, the VIII isn't terrible to grind, and the rest are fine. Take the 113 from the Collectors Vehicles first and ask yourself if the lack of gun depression is worth trading off Alpha dmg.

>>2772303
>t. Didn't win their weak side faster than they are breaking ours and can't be fucked to push laterally ahead of time to counter that and/or prevent being capped out and/or isolated and farmed ineffectually in their spawn.

beat the final wave on brutal, team composition E-65 (You), King Tiger, 2x KPZ 07 and tortoise
A lot of AOE ablities were spammed, the vampire heal and stun shot came in clutch, the team properly focused one flank on the waves where the enemy comes from 2 directions and I think this is the key

Fun facts: the zero weighs over 1000 tons and the obelisks weigh almost 600 tons

why are you still playing this?
hard mode: no sunk cost fallacy

>>2792291
sunk time fallacy

>Every tier 8 lobby just has a 50% chance of there being 3 XM57s on each team
Yeah, I'm thinking I'm The Raped

>>2792291
i like the game itself, but i hate the playerbase
rat kids care more about farming high stats rather than playing fun and brawling

>>2792291
I play spg and wait in queue as a wind down (I will not interact with the gameplay mechanics)

>>2792291
Still one of the few team based game out there without rampant cheating and not stuck in the small 5 vs 5 format
Matches matter with one life and can last up to 15 minutes
The player vessels are neat historical tanks (only applies to tier 7 or below)

Saw an amazing clutch on the last round of brutal tonight. Losing tanks left and right, I rushed in and bursted down the Zero before exploding, leaving only a VK 100 left. I was sure we were gonna whiff and run out of time but he perfectly lines up and chain rams the last three tanks with literally two seconds left on the clock. Absolutely beautiful.
I generally like to play Kpz 07 or ShPTK in this mode but I’m a believer in the meme tam build now. Seen some hilarious shit when you get three superheavies on a team. Still need a fast med and a DPM TD for balance but they can perform well when the stars align

sometimes when I spg I try supporting the lesser flank but I find that its not reliable to let the heavy blob just duke it out by themselves. not that I would make much of a difference but im learning to dedicate my time to get into a good postion to peepeepoopoo on the largest mass of players

>>2795953
SPG got neutered with the stun reduction nerf and inability to damage internal modules on splash and setting people on engine fire
It’s not fun anymore. It’s more entertaining to be a TD bushwanker these days

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>>2797304
I'm gonna monitor the shit out of the situation

>assembly tank so boring no one on with cares about it
Kek

>>2797638
It doesn't look THAT bad, aside from being a lazy kitbash
It's meant to be a T10 Bourrasque and it looks to have pretty stupid burst potential with 1400/5s, but it does ultimately lack any meaningful armor and it doesn't quite have the LT levels of camo the Bour has that'd make it really monstrous.
But the DPM is pretty good, the burst is exceptional, the pen and gun handling aren't terrible (although it doesn't have award winning accuracy) and it has pretty respectable speed and P/W although it'll need off-road for the piss poor ground resists (it can't hit 60 on soft)
It doesn't bring a super niche playstyle with it though - it's a poor man's MBT-B (although having a smaller and more compact profile with twice as much camo and a bit more speed will probably make it a lot more survivable) and you can also just play the BC25t as a tech tree tank - you do less burst and require more time to magdump, but honestly it's usually an all or nothing situation anyways where either you can sit there for the full 10s to magdump your entire clip or you get punished within 2-3 seconds in which case the Durendal wouldn't get its second burst either.
I think it's a cool tank, and there's probably some value in owning it, but a lot like the Ashigaru it feels like a 750k fxp tank and not a 1m fxp assembly shop.

>>2797806
Durendal doesn’t seem too bad to me either.
Usable turret armor and being able to time your peeks to the burst instead of exposing yourself in regular autoloaders is strong and more suited to current tier 10 burst meta
I already have an identical playstyle with MTB-B so i won’t get it. It’s surely better than vickers 3 MBT and aSHITgaru

>>2797905
The turret armor is a lot thinner than the suggested value, although I guess it does have some auto-ricochet angles
While the gun is the same general playstyle as the MBT, I'm not convinced it'll be the *exact* same playstyle. The MBT-B has fuckall camo and relies almost entirely on using hard cover, catching someone out and then magdumping them hard. The Durendal has enough camo you can play it like a regular medium, abusing bushes to get into decent positions and possibly even firing from stealth. I think that and the extra 10km/h base speed is going to lend a relatively different playstyle to the vehicle. I'd love to see the two vehicles next to each other for a size/profile comparison but the Durendal also seems to be pretty compact for what it is.
I don't know that it's worth 1m if you already have the MBT (which I do, so I'm really debating if I grab this one) but I don't think it's going to be a boring clone of the MBT-B but instead it'll be a proper medium tank and not a support heavy
Honestly I'd love to get the opinion of someone like Iyouxin on this thing before it releases, but I think it's going to be pretty strong. Even some of the more mediocre CCs are putting up good numbers in it.

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>>2798314
>The Durendal has enough camo you can play it like a regular medium, abusing bushes to get into decent positions and possibly even firing from stealth
the bursting is trolly for playing like a medium tank at range though, if you had experience trying to hit moving targets at range with MBT-B
>I don't think it's going to be a boring clone of the MBT-B
durendal is more of a TVP competitor than anything else, the more i look at the firepower stats
it's really strong for the medium tank slot it occupies in queue. getting a durendal player is loads better than an Ares 90 or progetto 65 player

Welp, BP completed, now I have to run the repeating one twice to get a 6th crew member

>>2796050
>>2796050
you say this but Ive been grinding the american line so this cant be right or all my progress was for naught
I watched a vid saying that the only spg line that didnt get raped was the soviet since its characteristics was based on fast, accurate, single target shots instead of big gun big splash big goon.
might have to go soviet or just minmax the t6ers I have. apparently thats the sweet spot for all lines. m44 is m44, fv is fv, frenchie one idk, and the su has the fastest 155mm gun. having line of sight in a bush doesnt seem like a fun and casual time raping the unfortunates. also I wouldnt want to be one o "those guys", you know the tds that all go to the same td spot guaranteeing that the mid is free and open to be ravished by any light or med that figures that out

>>2800509
>I watched a vid saying that the only spg line that didnt get raped was the soviet since its characteristics was based on fast, accurate, single target shots instead of big gun big splash big goon.
Is this true? I was told that American arty was average. This is very concerning

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>>2800509
>m44
lmao that shit got gutted like mad. what time machine did you come out from?
notice one thing about the SPGs topping the charts above even the object 261? they're all fast firing.
big hitters like T92 HMC or conqGC are shit and won't help you complete SPG missions. they're extremely outdated and don't even land their mark when everyone has sound detection trained now

the only reason people go USA SPG is that they're already invested into it, or for having high gun traverse limits or turreted M53/M55 for pure QOL purposes.
if you actually want to swing games by permastunning or do missions? play brits or russians

Man, I am really on the fence about the Durendal.
I know I'll enjoy it and I won't immediately regret getting it, but I don't NEED it and if the next assembly shop tank is something unique or broken on the level of the DBV I'm going to regret spending my FXP.

>>2801572
What other tier 10 meds you got

>>2801572
I was watching max play the durendal and it seems okay.
The turret armor is more shit than I thought and doesn’t block much. It can burst easier during hulldown situations that a TVP or batchat wouldn’t be able to
Hull is giant as fuck and eats full pen SPG shots
Gun slaps hard but inconsistent at longer ranges which mediums tend to do
Speedy as hell and can play camo situations that MBT-B cannot

It’s almost minmaxed as an ambush vehicle. I’d still take my MBT-B over it though, having the extra burst is universally useful compared to camo play on like 1/3 of the maps

>>2801521
I am filled with distress. Last I cared about the game the big mortar guns were the cool guys because they could lop a shell anywhere and hit hard. at the very least the su8 isnt that hard to get, and Ive already gotten the french and brit t6es. i just wanna shoot heavies and rattle their bones a bit. ruffle their feathers. big fat hens who need a good ruffle thats what they are

>>2801521
>lmao that shit got gutted like mad. what time machine did you come out from?
>the only reason people go USA SPG is that they're already invested into it, or for having high gun traverse limits or turreted M53/M55 for pure QOL purposes.
>if you actually want to swing games by permastunning or do missions? play brits or russians
NTA. Returning player from 10+ years ago. I am playing SPG solely for the campaign missions, and will sell them once done with the first two campaigns. I have access to American/Russian/German SPGs. I have been apparently reading outdated info that the American line is still good all-rounders for campaign missions (the M44 did not seem great at all to me so maybe it did get nerfed hard). Currently at the t8, trying to get to t9 for the turret. Compared to back in the day, arty does seem useless, can’t hit shit, can’t counter battery with the nerfed outgoing tracers, stun is not fun, HE sucks now, etc.
Is the Russian line worth switching to, in that it was more resilient to the nerfs and functions better for campaign missions?

>new assembly shop tank has no armor with less hp than leo1
FVbros it's our time...

>>2804189
>forgot it was even happening and missed out on getting a low number
I might actually not even get one now lol

>>2803030
I did most of the black rock assistance missions with 212a and FV3805 so I can attest to them being good for stun missions
I didn’t really like the M53/M55, but I played it after nerfs. M40/M43 felt like the strongest tier 8 SPG and it shows in the stats

>>2804365
If you’re still on the fence after 1 whole day then it’s a no

I'm waiting to snipe 5000, I can't wait to get some dogshit number like 5012 when a dozen other people try to snipe it

>>2804781
>immediately jumped like 90 numbers in the blink of an eye
fuck

https://www.reddit.com/r/WorldofTanks/comments/1vhq4zv/from_trust_me_bro/

someone on reddit did a leak

>>2804819
it felt weird how the lines with the more complex mechanics go left out

>>2805118
the new german heavy line branching from the tiger 1 might be cool to grind through
still no interest in tier 11s

>>2792291
Unfortunately not really anything else like it still. I play War Thunder but it's not really a game like this, more a collection of vehicles just randomly thrown together on bad maps (with much worse physics than WoT).

Got the Dravec
It is so fast that I drove in front of 2 jagE100 twice

wow, can't find the leaks anywhere now
anyway, jap TDs getting a gimmick is kinda dumb, their gimmick was that there was no gimmick and were just ok (except the cheeto)

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>>2806346
I've still got the tab open with images
If Armored Patrol was still worth shit it would've leaked to them but I guess they really fucking fell off and are basically just an aggregator at this point with gambling ads
Sad to see

>An anonymous source sent us these.

>Article removed due to Wargaming copyright infringement.

keeeeeeek
At least that means they're 100% real, wonder if WG will find this /vm/ thread

So Durendal is 100% APCR if you want to play it, the standard rounds have literally zero pen and will ricochet off lightly armored medium tanks. Like if you're not going to load 100% gold don't even bother playing this tank.

Okay I got baited by streamer RNG
Durendal is DOGSHIT, like actually fucking terrible
The AP is unusable and the APCR is bad too. I get so many fucking ricochets in this tank it's INSANE. Your second shot is completely fucked, just like the MBT, so you will never hit anything ever. I don't know what the streamers have that I don't aside from streamer RNG but you are not doing consistent 700 damage, you have Foch 155 syndrome where you're lucky to hit two shells out of a four round mag. Of those, probably only one is actually going to pen.
The gun is BAD. It needed even more buffs because it's MBT-B levels of garbage.

>>2809061
Go play the KV-2 for a while to recalibrate, buddy. You’re too far down the chasing meta rabbit hole.