>>2708356
man I wanted to make a para for this prog, it's the only class I have left to try (besides sin), but it has like half the skills of an ele or necro to roll for
is it worth it parabros?

>>2708470
I'm making a para because I plan to play it after this prog, I would play something that you think is fun/sounds interesting. If you think you will have more fun playing ele/necro I would recommend that, if this prog is successful I might do it again in the future.

>>2708470
Play whatever you want without any consideration of the prog rules. It's not going to change things that much.

Is W/P the most effective way to build Mighty Throw due to SWS? Or is there a P/? build that's better?

Also is Warr still bottom tier even after the buffs to HB etc?

PROG IN 45 MINUTES
WAKE UP

PROG SOON LOG IN

>>2709097
P/W gets more total damage by bugging the party with HR, but as a single character warriors got it beat.
Or just use pie, cause you're not poor are you?

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Here are the skills you MUST have on your bar next week.

At the start of the prog I will post what bars people built, and at end of prog session I will post what people are using next week

>>2709443
>leadership
oh yes massa I's a good paragon, buffin my party an all, no I'd neva throw a spear or do no damage or nothin, wouldin dream o it, I knows my place

>>2709484
jk it's an ias that drops my armor, have fun healing me as I spam spear mastery skills

>>2709488
put frenzy on your bar coward

>>2709443
I forgot to mention - We are stopping at The Honorable General quest next week at the start of the session I'll post a screenshot of all the builds we made

No newfriends joined the prog! :(

I'm still waiting for this renaissance of build crafting that was supposed to happen after Esurge was nerfed.

>>2709511
you right
they gotta nerf it harder

>>2709493
I will if the IAS stacks

>>2709499
This prog runs so early wtf

>>2709577
this was the only time everyone that voted could make
we just had july 4th and you let euros make decisions for you instead of taking action, shameful

>>2709511
I said it for years but the real part of the meta is bip resto+ST backline.

>>2709511
cry about it bitch

>>2709443
aw hell naw

>>2709236
I see. Given that Warrior armor is generally cool and Paragon armor is mostly similar looking and kind of boring, plus you doing damage is more fun than your heroes doing damage I think I’ll go for the W/P combo for Mighty Throw

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>>2709705
they're all the same
the n/rt is the mesmer of healing. does basically everything you need, no matter what area you're in, on a compact unpunishable bar. same with st, spirit hate is borderline nonexistent compared to enchantment hate, and it's party-wide 100% uptime prots on like 5 skills
>>2710847

>>2709511
>I'm still waiting for this renaissance of build crafting
there never has been something like that
you just jump from one meta to another

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A reminder, come be a retard tomorrow in DoA, it's double ZB week, and Sunday's ZB is Stygian Veil related.

>>2711352
the build renaissance is in the heart of every child who dares to dream :)

>>2711867
I'm gonna play a GDW rit and only give it to one guy btw

>>2711882
They don't care about that they only Roblox now

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>>2711867
Unfortunately, I will not be able to make it tomorrow.
I did, however, set up this build which I had intended to use with a mind to showcase the exceptional qualities of the Mysticism staff.

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>>2711884
I was going to say that is absolutely devilish, but 2 replies later we have a man DPS maxing with mysticism staff trying to turn our brand new thread into a warzone with his build.

>>2711948
This is what I'm thinking about running. If we don't have enough supports I might swap to necro and run physical support orders, or I'll run infuriating heat + GDW on my rit.

Gimme a Mighty Throw non-HR P/ build.

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>>2711867
>>2712133
>>2712146
>show up to gayest build DOA day
>everyone just brought a different mighty throw variant

>>2712146
Focused anger tends to be next most popular way for para's to generate adrenaline to spam shit.

>>2712151
We gettin zesty up in DoA tomorrow.

>>2712151
>cup doesn't do 50% damage because everybody comes prepared to do ironman numbers
oooo he gon be mad

>>2712151
I can't name it but I'd like to try an enchanters conundrum build actually

my mysticism staff is ready

>>2711867
I ran gdw last time we did this but I will probably sit this one out so other people can join

>>2713131
Chances are we don't fill a full party so come regardless

>>2713123
that takes some pretty extreme stuff for me these days

>>2711867
What time?

>>2713318
1PM EST

>>2712480
ill just come on vos then i can see big numbers

>>2713541
do mighty throw else that one sperg will still think it's balanced

>>2712146
Ackshually
Solo HR might not be so bad

>>2713674
its boring spamming one skill almost as boring as vos was thinking earth shaker

>>2713748
nice

LOG ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>2709511
Mesmer is still the best offensive caster, BiP solves all energy management issues, and Rit continues to dominate the backline. They're understandably not going to do heavy-handed nerfs, so that renaissance is never going to happen.
You're better off keeping a close eye on buffs for Necro, Ranger and Paragon as that's where all the weird, highly specific builds will emerge.

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>moa supremacy

what happened now?

In Stygian, with 20 Spear Mastery, my Mighty Throws were hitting for ~110-140, lowest usually in the 80s and if I got lucky my highest were 160s.

>>2713941
Warrior or Paragon main?

>>2713972
Para

>>2713906
Sunspears lost a war against them.

How did people hit high hero ranks back in the day? If I remember correctly, having even r3 or r4 meant that you were a very good player, and people wouldn't pick you up in the HA outpost if you didn't have at least r2.
I was too young to ever get into that back then, but just had a thought that you had to be playing HA 24/7 as you would get full, coordinated teams already at the first game. Unlike now when it's bots until HoH (if at all).

>>2715586
please buy a new computer

i'm just CHILLIN here in THUNDERHEAD KEEP

>>2713906
It was discovered that the plain old pink moa (Strider) has 25% IAS. It also has the usual 25% IMS.
Rollerbeetle has 33% IAS but no IMS.

>>2716321
I got r6 through iway and vimway pugs back then

>>2716335
?

>>2716335
>he doesn't know

>>2716335
post processing is for midwits

managed to get a full pug for stygian lords and underlords zb's in one go, coomed a lil seeing all the zcoins come in just before the weekly changes

should i go for 3 mesmer and SoS rit midline
or 2 mesmers 2 RoJ monks

>>2717702
SoS if you're melee cause then you get big splinter weapon use

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>>2713941
at 110 damage per spear with 33% IAS the single target damage would be about 3x what pre-nerf esurge would deal to a ball of 5 enemies.

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>>2716707
baseg

deep run on Sunday please

>>2708356
I started playing GW1 a few weeks ago. If I want to join the guild are you going to force me to use discord?

I got perma banned on discord last November.

>>2720082
we don't even have a discord
just post a character name

5 lockpicks ruined for 5 purples on my melandru's where money is actually a issue

>>2720141
that’s what you get for being greedy

>>2720141
>He bought?

Tried Reforged a couple months back and did the new pre dungeon then went to post searing. What's new outside of the new post dungeon? Thinkan about playan agane

>>2720308
>what’s new
the post searing version of that dungeon

>>2720308
also balance changes so some motivation to make new builds

>>2720308
Reforged dungeon is like Milo: Old and Busted. Nobody cares about pre-Searing anymore.
The new [Hoes] hotness is Mighty Throw.

my mighty throw motigon hero does about 66% of the damage of my ineptitude guy
about 40% of my dom magic heroes
still thinking about dropping my ineptitude guy for a command paragon, mainly because i hate Norgu

If I had known that balance changes would make people this fucking annoying, I would have stayed quiet

shieeet it's foundry fo today who up??

>>2720949
no you wouldn't have

>>2721122
Nuh uh

>>2721138
yeah so
normal people don't attentionwhorepost to no one in particular about how they wanted a different kind of attention, they just think "damn"

wiped twice in foundry with people overpulling with evas in the corner of death (or the LGIT corner)

>>2721234
Baseball huh

fourth try failed foundry quest but still got zb done I will NEVER pug this again I'm tired of LGIT retards

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>>2720085
Sounds Good.
I am Bantha Kitter.

>>2721567
sent ;)
make sure to post in alliance chat when you want to talk to the homies
if you're interested in nightfall campaign progression, we began with our first session last Saturday and we play at 9AM EST. you can join and play most anything you'd like. we can help you catch up.

>>2721567
>>2721571
yeah you only have to make up like 20 minutes of mainlining the primary quest to do nightfall with a big group, if you wake up early on weekends (or are a e*roid)

>>2721686
Well adjusted adults with jobs don't consider 9AM "waking up early".

>>2720082
Perma banned on discord you say? Someone make this guy an officer

We use ingame chat and this thread to communicate, people have mentioned establishing a discord a few times but I would sooner pay for a TS server before setting up a discord server. (We also have a steam group but it's hardly used and I rarely remember to post to it)

>>2721549
It's called foundry of failed teams for a reason. Pugs don't understand that 90% of the time that corner is pure suicide unless you have the correct comp to deal with it. Can't wait to first try it with guildies running absolute BS builds lol

>>2721707
I know we have this convo every time foundry is up on zb, I still do it for the love of the game

>>2721700
unless you have kids this is a confession that you don't have fun on fridays. I wake up at 6 on weekdays, doing something at 9 on saturday is still early
also west coast exists

okay hear me out
We put hard ressurection skills in WoC

Do you guys think GW 3 going to be any good? Should i finally upgrade my ancient ass pc to able to play it on it's release?

>>2724040
the hype for 2 was unreal. and i think 3 will have none at all. probably for the best. everything about it says mobile game to me, but i guess 1 is now also a mobile game.

>>2724040
>Do you guys think GW 3 going to be any good?
Not really. I think the current trends of live service games basically doom them all to slop, not to mention the broader games industry trends. There's a good chance that GW3 is seen as the final relic of this current age too, just as GW2 was one of the first live service games to usher in the current age.

>>2724040
just wait and see. I doubt it'll be great but who knows

>>2724040
Considering GW2 has been consistently bad for 14 years now, and Anet haven’t made a good game in almost 20 years, I sincerely doubt it.

>>2724040
Extremely doubtful, all the people who made anet a great studio left years ago. Further evidence of this is the fact the trailer art style looks like highguard level slop, and the fact that the MMO is planning for much smaller player group sizes (larger than GW1, vastly smaller than GW2)

This is significant, because one of the few things GW2 does well is it's large scale player content, the open world PvE world bosses and WvW are some of the only redeeming qualities of GW2 and much like they did to GW1 they're going "nope fuck that" on the only good parts of their game, but unlike what happened between GW1 and 2 I don't think they have the talent to pull it off...

And even if they did still have the talent, live service games are oversaturated in this market and there's simply no amount of content they could produce with their small studio that would be able to keep up with consumer demand. GW3 launching will cause GW2's playerbase to drop in half, maybe even more and only a fraction will return to GW2 after deciding they prefer GW2. GW2 which already frequently sees complaints about quality and quantity of content releases will continue to suffer as more talent keeps getting poured onto the black hole that is GW3 because as history has shown (in the many times anet has tried it during GW2's development) they are incapable of running 2 projects at same time.

Literally I shit you not, the only reason GW2 hasn't crashed is because it was built on a somewhat solid foundation + nostalgia + it has 14 years worth of content to get through so your average player doesn't have to care when the latest expansion is dogshit that can be completed in 20 minutes.

Anyway this will create a bungie death spiral in which the devs poor resources and money into new game which isn't even breaking even, meanwhile old game continues to lose profitability, people, and quality worsens until it's no longer feasible to maintain it and the entire studio gets sunk.

I'm sure this topic was brought up in this general at least few times at that point, but oh boy, it's really hard to not see in Reforged anything but a scam. The game existed for a whole year at this point, and they didn't add anything to it but half-baked new hub in pre-raped Ascalon, few quests connected to it, and...it's basically all that matter.
Surely if they wanted to sell people a 20-year old game for triple the price they could at least make dlc-exclusive classes accessible for all campaigns(surely putting some new trainers there and there couldn't be that much of a impossible task) or something equally cool.

>>2725288
>anything other than a scam

I didn't pay anything for reforged

If you owned nightfall back in 2008 but not factions/prophecies, you got those for free after reforged.

The entire bundle for the game is now cheaper than it was before reforged.

The entire bundle for the game was also 75% off for the first time in it's existence immediately after reforged announced.

I don't really understand what part is the scam, I think people are overusing the word scam to the point that it doesn't actually mean anything anymore.

I also don't really understand what you mean by 20 year old game for triple the price. You do understand that BEFORE reforged, the GW trilogy cost 30$ and after reforged it now costs 20$ right?

Here's a 2023 wayback of the store page for you.
https://web.archive.org/web/20230929024531/https://store.guildwars.com/en-us
>GW nightfall 20$
Here's the steamcharts page for the trilogy (which had the reforged bundle)
https://steamdb.info/app/29620/
>trilogy 30$

>>2725288
its worth it for me just for the skill buffing

i dont expect much from a 3 man team

>>2725288
>reduce price to buy game and all its expansions
>reduce price of items in the in game store
>"THIS IS A SCAM"
It's a pretty bad scam.

>>2725288
what do you want
it's a 20 year old game and, for free, they added mobile, steamdeck, permadeath and ironman modes, 2 dungeons and 2 heroes, skill patches and ai fixes, and made a bunch of weapon skins and minis available. and based on that woodenpotatoes interview they're gonna make a new skill randomizer roguelite mode

>>2725850
sick

>>2724040
the mount riding segment from the gw3 trailer could be spliced into the highguard trailer and nobody would notice its a different game
the gw2 furries will be upset about losing their characters and the trailer for gw3 promised a beta test over a year after the trailer (fall 2027) so i think they will try to change the game to appeal to gw2 furries for a mess of a game stitched together in panic

I want one thing and one thing only, 2weeks.
Conjure Earth.

>>2726921
best I can do is buffing ebon dust aura

>Apocrypha has Mighty Throw
This week's prog is going to be fun.

>>2726921
Maybe one day the E/W shockwave hammer will be great.

>>2728985
Someone is 100% getting absolutely blasted and I'm like 75% sure it'll be someone on the para team.

Somebody yell at me in 12 hours to make sure my prog build is set up.

>>2730198
Sorry I don't speak 12 hours

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is scythe assassin gud or should I just stick to spamming em daggers

>>2730510
if you're not playing daggerspam you're suboptimal which is FORBIDDEN

>>2730510
Whether something is good or not is irrelevant. Whether it is fun or not is all that matters.

>>2730198
Set up your prog build

Also reminder we are progging in 24 hours from now at 9AM EST we're currently on The Honorable General quest.

>>2730510
It's fine. Assassin relies on way of the master to make non daggers work, so heavy enchant removal area will be zero fun. As long as you work around that it's fine

>>2730510
its alright mostly cause you dont rely on an elite so you can use wounding strike or something

Just looked over all the Curses skills and i think it might the worst attribute of all in the game
Elite skills like Wither are worse then normal skills like mind wrack

>>2732836
necro is cucked by pvp big time. they just killed everything and left it that way.

>>2730198
yall niggas better bring shouts

>>2732836
I used to say motivation was the worst but its been nicely buffed since 2weeks took over. Swords (outside of HB), deadly arts (outside of AP), curses, blood, water are my usual shit list. Wind prayers getting whirling charge nerfed does make me say it might be there too now.

>>2733071
my bar is full of my main attribute ^_^

I started playing again since GW3 is coming and I'm having so much fun. I quit last time when I started unlocking heroes because I thought I had to actually make one of every profession to learn the skills. It only took me like an hour of running around to get all the skills I needed. I'm a fucking idiot. But, desu, I'm glad I waited because the new dungeon made LDoA super fast and my end goal is GWAMM for the GW2 title.

so far I've been playing total minion. base ritualist, sub necro with two spirits, two undead and then all mp and minion control abilities. it's weird but fun.

need para book

>>2733214
GWAMM will take a LONG time assuming you're not a no-lifer. GW2 will be EOS'd in favor of GW3 by then.

revert the necromancer minion limit

are pve skills fine for the prog? I picked some up at the sunspear hall

PROG ONE HOUR

>>2733967
no all PvE skills are banned this prog mostly because NF PvE skills are too OP and it's just easier to blanket ban them, as opposed to ban certain ones

>tfw playing singleplayer MMO while I wait to play singleplayer not!MMO

log on for prog now or die a gruesome death

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>>2709443
These are the builds people made for week 2! No Shiet sadly, but we picked up another necro

Thinking of making my first presearing char, I see people say ranger or ele is best (I have no bonus weaps just the imp) but the latest patch buffed necro so I was thinking that instead (seems cooler). Is this a good idea? What would be viable pre searing builds/secondaries for Necro? I’m guessing it’s between N/E or N/M?

>>2734309
I’m glad they didn’t nerf it in pve, it’s so much fun with SWS on W/P

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>>2734126
Here are skills that MUST be on your bar for next week

We stopped at Isle of the Dead (Completed)

>>2734393
roll for our monkbro in absentia

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>>2734396
I wasn't sure if I should or not, since he didn't show up for today so he didn't get a chance to use the skills for this session.

ALSO for the poorfags in our group who can't afford better armor Lahtenda Bog has all the poverty armor collectors. Here is a list of stuff you can get

Head Armor - 45-65 AR: 3 Copper Shillings

Leg Armor - 45-65 AR: 2 Mandragor Swamproots

Chest Armor - 45-65 AR: 3 Silver Bullion Coins

Arm Armor - 45-65 AR: 3 Insect Appendages

Boot Armor - 45-65 AR: 3 Fledging Skree Wings

we will detour next week to help people out and pool resources to fund some poverty sets.

>>2734393
Wait, isn't our monk bro Shiet?
Yet he is rolled as a necro here

>>2734425
curious

>>2734425
monkbro didn't make it today, but Roberts joined us 1 week late as a necro so I put him in.

We have 1-3 more people who might join post consulate so hopefully he rejoins us so at least 1 of our 2 parties will have a monk lol

>>2733906
I doubt it. Everyone said legendaries in GW2 were huge grinds too and I got full legendary besides weapons in like 6-8 months. Wasted time grinding 10k gems with gold too because I didn't want to pay real money for stuff

>>2734511
to be fair, legendaries are not grindy at all if you're willing to pay, it's maybe 1-10 hours to do the precusor chain unless you just buy the precursor for 50-200g, after that it's almost pure mat costs.

The only huge grinds for legendaries are the trinkets and armor, mostly because the trinkets require 100% full story achievement completion + scavenger hunt, and the armor requires you to farm raids once a week for several months. It's not even a tough grind just a pure timegate grind.

But both can still be done within 50-200 hours at worst.

GWAMM is roughly a 300-1000 hour investment depending on how optimized you do it and how many account titles you have. For a first time GWAMM I'd expect closer to 1000 hours if you're not doing it super optimal.

>>2734533
GWAMM is a lot more manageable if you're just doing zaishen dailies and being smart about turning in stuff for double rep weeks.

GW1 title grinds are on par with shit they expected you to do in like third-tier Korean MMOs in 2002, and I have no idea how even a single person in the world would ever think "Yes, that's how I want to spend my time."

>>2734613
>t. bambi

>>2734613
Only account-wide titles are really all that bad. Most titles are just completionist shit. "Do all missions and bonuses in NM an HM" "capture all elite skills" "vanquish all zones" it's not a huge repetitive grind, it's just a lot of content to get through.

Now something like lucky is some Korean MMO bullshit.

>>2734634
Not really since you pretty much afk lucky/unlucky all the way through. I actually can't think of a Korean MMO grindfest title. If anything it would be the Sunspear farm to progress the main quests.

>>2734645
Zaishen title
Luxon/Kurzick
Treasure hunter
WIsdom, but that goes hand in hand with the above

>>2734671
>Treasure hunter
>Wisdom, but that goes hand in hand with the above
That's just playing the game THOUGH. Zaishen is the same, you can do PvP and get zkeys for free or just buy stacks directly and spam the chest - nothing Korean about it - sure it takes a long time to max it out but again you get that through playing (multiple formats) of the game. Or if you are rich enough you can max the whole title out in a day.
Korean experience would be something like Fire Imp Slayer (r1 to r5) where you have to kill 500000 Fire Imps to max it out.

>>2734698
do you realize how many weeks of capping keys it takes?

>>2734710
Think this dude was saying buy keys from Indian botters like a nigger.

>>2734716
That's still a ludicrous amount of money

>>2734710
Where do you draw the line in something being Korean or not? You can max it in a week? A month? Half a year? Zaishen rank can be progressed via many different ways. I unfortunately have intimate experience with early Y2K Korean MMOs and nothing about GW1 is in that vein.

>>2734731
Maxed in a week or a month is absolutely not korean tier. That's fairly normal for most MMOs. Half a year of daily commitment to playing 1-2 hours is where i'd begin to say it's korean. And by the way, zaishen keys max at 25 a day, and you need 20000 for the title. It's over two years of a LOT of pvp. There's a reason key stacks are as expensive as they are.

>>2734613
They're really not that bad, almost every character title in the game can be obtained in under 25-50 hours at worst with vanquishes being the most time consuming.

>>2734762
I don't even know why people are bringing up zkeys to begin with it's a PvP title. If we're comparing PvP titles GW2 has multiple that are even grindier. See ultimate dominator (250,000 killed players) or god of WvW. The world first ultimate dominator had to play 10 hours every day for 9 months to hit it, during one of the best periods of this game to get it (with how much more inactive WvW is today that title is now 3X harder to get). And WvW rank 10,000 is so high that even though I have a solid 4000 hours solely spent in WvW I'm not even halfway. The other WvW titles were so horrifically grindy that people did the math and even if you did nothing but grind those achievements some would take nearly 7 full years of grinding every day to obtain (as a result anet eventually lowered the other achievements to be somewhat obtainable by humans). Even the PvP achievements like Champion Brawler (10k rated match wins) or Dragon rank take nearly 2+ years of daily PvP play to obtain.

>prog group wants to potluck mats for armor
>nobody wants to donate zkeys for a title

>>2734978
Zaishen r3 is a pretty common thing to pursue for hom maxing

>>2734511
the main difference is that with GWAMM you actually have to play the game
to get a leggy in gw2 you just need to stand in a big blob of people and wait for the big boss to die

>>2734407
yeah but roll for him in case he wants to cum bek......
monkbro your lucky numbers are 3 (smiting), 25 (smite), 22 (reroll for pvp skill), and 11 (judge's insight)

>>2734988
if everyone on earth gave me just 1 dollar I would be a billionaire

>>2735413
yeah but it's a shame if he set up a build for todays prog just to have to change it again when he didn't even get a chance to use it lol

I actually did roll for him today incase he did show up since I like to have all of that stuff set up in advance and he rolled Protection Prayers with Draw Conditions and Reverse Hex

Is Hidden Caltrops the worst elite skill in the game?

>>2735461
No I think Scribe's Insight is far worse at least Hidden Caltrops has potential PvP usage.

Mantra of Recall is a close 2nd place tied with Signet of Midnight.

>>2735498
Monks used to run with Mantra of Recall so at least it was useful sometime in the past
Scribe's insight is terrible indeed
Forgot about signet of midnight but yea thats pure trash as well especially with the 2sec cast
>Hidden Caltrops has potential PvP usage.
not really, there are a lot better snare options

>>2735539
It's a good split option because even if you bring hex removal it applies cripple after

GvG video with it 1:12:10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POtBia6KySM

It caught the enemy balth derv pretty hard.

>>2735389
No you don't... The raid legendary armor had to full clear the raid for months, same for the ring. The season 3 and season 4 accessories require you to do tons of achievements for all of the zones. The fractal backpack was over a month of doing daily fractals. Only the WvW ring was mindless

>>2735461
signet of suffering

>>2736188
that one's based tho

>>2735422
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJjbTbtoJhA

>>2734425
jugadores got him

https://youtu.be/qyKaGRSqcrQ
very cool

>>2733085
This might be one of the most retarded comments I have ever seen imagine thinking wind prayers is low tier at anything in the game

I know the numbers are up, but are there really enough people playing for the game to feel alive?
I created a new character in presearing and the town was filled with afk people who didnt chat at all. Checked all the channels, nobody spoke.

>>2738187
pre searing american english district 1 was quiet? I don't think I've ever seen that district shut up lol

In general most player groups are concentrated around dailys or guilds. You can always find people to do daily ZB, ZM and people get together to do PvP in international district in HA but depends on day.

>>2738187
yeah its alive. i mean its not 2007 anymore but its doing alright.

>>2738187
you will see big groups of people in
>hubs like kama and la and gtob and embark
>outposts for daily missions or boss bounties
>ally chat if you join a big ally
you will not see more than 5 non-grouped players in other random outposts
this is people actively searching for parties https://lfg.gwtoolbox.com/ and it's pretty scarce. if you're hoping to pug your way through a campaign, you're not gonna get that. if you want to get 7 people to do the zaishen mission in hm, you can get that in 5 mins
the upshot is that you can't take more than 7 other people into 99% of zones anyway, so if you set up playthroughs (with friends or people itt) your time in-mission or in-zone is indistinguishable from 2007

>>2738187
It's not too late to join our Nightfall prog if you want to come. We're only just past the second mission.

>people be using dey cupcakes during prog
WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!!!!!!1

>>2739105
I thought that was the random to fill out the awkward hero-split party

>>2739105
>>2739252
no it turned out that wawaa was a fool, and the Jokanur's Diggings darts have the same visual effect as cupcakes

https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Madness_Dart

>>2739972
im glad this prog is turning people into schitzos

>>2740882
>schitzos

>>2739972
>When triggered by Madness Dart, skills such as Vengeful Weapon have no target to deal damage to and as a result will gain health and steal health from the affected creature for the same amount.
I know what I'm doing next jokanur zm

>>2741291
wait I'm retarded, I thought you could get 100 damage spikes

>>2740882
that's just wawaa he's e*ropean, it's almost as bad.

Uhm it's been two weeks where is our update?

>>2745003
summer break

finna unlocked cpt Thackeray
now i can ditch general Morghan freeman

>>2745446
*Ruins of Morah in your path*
nothing personnel

>>2745003
It's here. They heard you.

https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Feedback:Game_updates/20260721

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>>2745902
Complaining works

>Stalker’s Ration - Using Stalker’s Ration causes pings to appear at enemy locations close to compass range, helping folks that are running Vanquishes to more easily locate their prey and finish them off.
>Bird’s Eye Compass - Using Bird’s Eye Compass increases map reveal range and pings nearby locations that have where more map can be revealed.
why are they so hellbent on making the game as easy as possible? what's with the casualization

>>2745925
mapping is autistic and needs some qol. having a single way to find the last enemy is also needed qol.

>>2745925
>why are they so hellbent on making the game as easy as possible? what's with the casualization
yeah can we please ban toolbox already

>>2745925
These are both solving annoying as fuck things that literally every single person ever hated to have to encounter. Stop being a contrarian fag for no reason, you're trying too hard.

>>2745925
running loops around a map for 20 minutes with no other gameplay trying to find a patrol is not fun or skill-based or 1337hax0r. neither is installing texmod cartography shit and scraping the camera around to get 0.001% title progress. if you take pride in either of these, it's because you have no real skills worth caring about
also kys

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>equipment menu is a black screen showing nothing is equipped
>swapping equipment causes a crash
nice

>>2745925
the community made both easier first

>>2745925
>plays with a bar full of PvE skills for muh efficiency
Pretender.

>>2745925
Because everyone uses third party tools for this stuff anyway.

>>2746861
based anet making the game harder and undoing the casualization

>In our excitement to get the Steam login update available on mobile a couple of content updates snuck out a bit ahead of the update currently planned for next week. We are keeping in the new title support item drops, but they will not have translated text until next week.
>We had also added some new drops to the Underworld chest that are now turned off until next week’s content update build. When that build goes live, these will be added back and you’ll have some fun new minis and unique items to hunt down.
Content update next week!?

>>2748320
>sex update

sunday UW run perchance

>>2749129
Why run RIGHT before they update it though

>got whiped three times during cleansing shenzun tunnels in WoC
yeah i got in lazy and didn't flag any heroes so my casters where running through the inflicted, but still, WoC is going to be hard on my melandru's accord

>>2749132
you tell me

>>2749140
>got whiped three times
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMopBpOfv_E

I have a feeling like some HM WoC content is meant to be cheesed
Like Cleansing haiju lagoon, in normal mode its hard enough, in hard mode its almost impossible

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whats this?

>>2750451
makes cartography easier

>>2750549
but we already had texmod for that

>>2750020
It's meant to be super duper hard, but it is beatable with a few human players in HM. Solo it can still be done, but you'll suffer.

>>2750805
mobile can't use that

>>2750805
>external program

>>2750451
>754g
broke ass

>>2749129
I will be going on vacation almost immediately after Saturday's prog so I can't run it, but I'll do a UW run after they update the chest rewards and I'm back from vacation - potentially Sunday August 2nd.

>>2751626
I'm going to be on vacation the first weekend in August, so do it another weekend instead.

>>2751639
depending on what the reward is I'll consider it. If it's something interesting, we'll do 2 runs, if it's something lame I'll delay it a week.

>>2751626
>going on vacay when he could be saving for a home
good goy

>>2751807
>Yes goy give us your money and stake your happiness on the stock market

>>2751807
broke nigga alert

>>2752744
wasting money is an elonian mentality

>>2752783
t. kournoid slaving away in the fields, scrimping and saving grain hoping to maybe afford one of those bird windmills one day 40 years from now, coping "but it's honorable"
some of us are getting vabbian money (hilli bala hey hilli baloh)

>>2712151
>"Ugh, i'm not the only soggy bottom? i have to PERFORM instead of being the funnel at the bottom of an all-stud orgy?"

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>Fresh character
>Jumped into HM post 20
>Completing campaigns and whatever Zaishen quest I can (they give out very good exp)
>Made a balanced teamcomp focused on survival and mobility
Been going great so far. The only thing I backed away from was fighting the drought without activating the pumps. He wiped my heroes with just one Sandstorm twice in a row so I noped the fuck out of there. It's been fast progressing in HM but I've been at the edge of my seat a few times. Great fun though. Will I make it?

>>2754133
Your game knowledge is carrying you. A new player, if they survived this far, would be instantly murdered by the end of Moddock Crevice.

>>2751626
>>2751639
>>2751664
>>2751807
>>2751900
>>2752744
>>2752783
>>2752904
Female mentality.
>muh traveling
Pre-modern man seldom ventured outside his village and its immediate surroundings.

>>2754160
Male travelers do it for the feeling of exploring a strange, new land.
Female travelers do it because no one they know will see them be giga sluts away from home.
BIG difference.

>>2754168
>Male travelers do it for the feeling of exploring a strange, new land.
This was true until commercial flights made traveling trivial. You are not an adventurer or a pathfinder from 1830 going to the Amazonian forests or Siberia. You got a discounted flight to some tourist trap and you call yourself a traveler exploring a strange, new land.
Everything has been thoroughly raped and defiled, there is no new or strange there is a cheap Mariott hotel, wifi passwords, a bus tour to see some tourist spots and a dinner at a place that serves pizza, burgers and sushi. Make sure to upload a photo to instagram after.
You are not Columbus.

>>2754160
>>2754214
keep your gay preening in your bedroom mirror

>>2754146
You say it like it's a bad thing?

>>2754215
Pray tell where are you traveling? What strange, new land might it be?

>>2754221
the land of mouthy retards, apparently

>>2754160
pre-modern men were BROKE
you don't have to mythologize your inability to earn enough money to travel and comfortably save for a home, retirement, etc. you are not a god-fearing right-living feudal serf, you are BROKE
>>2754214
as opposed to the alternative, which is never leaving your house to experience even the traces of those places, and pretending you're better off for it. tend the hearth, breastfeed the chilluns, fear the interstate, and tell other people they have female mentalities

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>>2754160
Poorfag. From the ice bridge of Russia+Alaska to the literal moon

>venture from 1 goycattle shithole to a different goycattle shithole
>I'M AN EXPLORAH
I expected better

>>2755326
Unless you're posting from Iraq, your ancestors traveled. You're a lesser son of greater men

>>2755584
This is true of everyone currently alive, with no meaningful difference created by a plane ride.

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some dude has a dream rider mini
is it happening?

I didn't check the threads when the balance patch hit recently, because i'm a casual. How badly is dervish nerfed for solo farming? A youtube short told me to delete the character and kill myself.

>>2756860
Soon

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>>2757108
just read the patch notes, it's pretty self-evident

>>2757112
I did read the patch notes and all I can decipher is that 60% block chance is bad. I was hoping my bawwbros knew some secret tech is all.

>>2757108
I don't think the nerfs really affected derv farming too heavily. Mirage cloak was never super important to most farm builds but if blocking/healing is really a concern to you just go D/A and put like 5~ points into shadow arts and run Shroud of Distress.

>>2754133
>Will I make it
Rooting for you anon, but it'll be tough going. The game has lots of hilariously retarded ways to kill you, as I'm sure you know. I lost a 1m survivor to some iboga boss in Kourna 1-shotting me from offscreen with a lightning bolt. I like your idea of jumping into HM the moment you hit level 20, though. I usually treat DC characters as 'progression' characters and go through stuff in order, but your method makes it seem like the game instead becomes a sort of expanding sandbox, which is also fun.

What kind of team comp are you running? I put some thought into what I'd do if I ever got far on a DC character in order to boost team stability, at the cost of clear time, but I never got far enough to test my ideas, so I don't know how well they work in practice. Sometimes the best defense is to just kill stuff fast.

>>2754146
Knower game mode.

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>>2758086
I thought about sticking to the natural order, but you progress much faster and safer if you take the sandbox approach. At first it was getting access to the heroes but the thing leading me around now is the Zaishen quests. If there is a vanquish close to where I'm at in NF, I'll push that campaign to reach the vanquish region. Then it's just a matter of some XP scrolls, doing the quests in the area, and clearing it of foes. That's 10-15k exp from the Zaishen quest + sidequests + killing exp = massive gains. But you have to face some serious danger sometimes.

Build is picrel. I know I've made some peculiar choices, but it's tailored for my goals. Which is survival, obviously. But also I want to be able to "hotswap" heroes in and out, since I often require a specific one to progress. Left is what I usually use, right are the ones I swap in when needed. Not pictured is the bog standard MM which you can swap in for the Rt, since minions make those spirits practically useless. I found that depending on spirits instead of a meatshield is more dependable and a lot faster, so I rarely use an MM. The core strategy is to shower them with debilitating conditions to lower enemy dmg output and make use of the same constant shower to deal a lot of damage. The mesmer is probably the most important cog in the machine. When I can bundle them up, it melts faces off. The output slows down against spread-out enemies, but they have very little chance of killing us.

>bow ranger
I know but it's just great to play. And the distances make it safer, even on shortbow. I have high survival to feed that bar and when I was still messing around, I found that healing spring is pretty underestimated (in players' hands). If the party gets hit with massive degen or other trickling HP attacks, it can boost them up to full in no time. And enemies don't target you for using healing spring, unlike the other traps which they aim to interrupt as fast as possible. They ignore healing spring.

>>2758312
Bow ranger is pretty solid for DC imo, pretty safe playstyle without being as boring as something like running communing prot as a player.

I've considered running condition-based teams with pestilence since the nature ritual buffs, but I'm always worried about inflicting my own conditions back on my team. I feel like it would make any enemy bars that inflict conditions in an AoE really scary. I guess that's where Feast + Plague Sending come in, though.

>>2758312
If I can just nit pick a few things about your set up:

Minions aren't that bad with ST unless you are running low level minions stuff like bone fiends will generally not have a noticable impact on ST performance, ST hero's are pretty competent at keeping their spirits up the majority of wipes are usually a result of - The player doesn't precast shelter before battle, The ST gets heavily pressured, or all the spirits get AoE'd and all die at once (more likely when you don't have an SoS or minion midline stack eating up AoEs).

That said I can respect the fear, however doubling up on prot with monk I don't think is a great idea. Hero's don't understand shelter is up, so the monk will waste energy and time casting Protective Spirit and Spirit Bond which will functionally do nothing most of the time. Additionally playing prot with an HB is not great, HB scales better the higher your divine favor is. I would drop Protective Spirit and Spirit bond for either Shield of Absorption + Cure Hex (you only have a single hex removal on this team...) Or just drop prot entirely and go Cure Hex + Vigorous Spirit. You need more hex removal on this team.

On your bar I would personally drop Ignite Arrows imo, ignite is better in physical support teams where you can boost the AoE damage of ignite (such as with orders, TaO, EBSoH etc...) you don't have any of that, with your current set up Apply poison pesti + fevered apply poison is prob just flat better and you tab target spread condis. Alternatively you could go for a crazy opener with Choking Gas and AoE rupt enemies for first 12~ seconds of combat. Rapid Fire probably make bow feel better to play, or you could go Expert Focus + Concussion Shot for a nice source of dazed.

(If you want to be a meta fag, dropping rebirth for Save Yourselves would give your team crazy damage mitigation, and functions well with your current set up)

>>2758745
>>2758312
Continuing on* I would also personally drop the sin hero for a derv hero. Sin hero's aren't great at doing their dagger chain, and your current set up isn't great for a sin hero, heros follow the player, and when the player is playing ranged this can mean melee heros walk outside the range of the hero monk and might get delayed on heals, additionally ass heros have low armor (potentially lower than some casters depending on insignias) so they get spiked pretty hard. I would personally go for a derv hero instead, higher armor and better access to self sustain, and much better access to conditions to fuel fevered and pesti.

Something like an Avatar build would be pretty strong here, Grenth for AoE disease, balthazar for more AoE burning (could also just slap on Mystic Corruption or Balthazar's Rage too) and run some earth prayers for free condis. You've got the right idea, I might try to fit Dust Cloak somewhere into your setup though AoE blind is nice. Alternative to avatar forms Wounding Strike would be better for BIG deep wound but VoS is also just flat good AoE.

Also as a final note I would stick "Find Their Weakness" onto your para if you could. Deep wound is a really strong condition to have access to.

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>>2758492
>nature ritual buffs
That was a factor for pestilence. Doesn't really need much of an investment, attribute-wise. Spawning power handles the rest. The new melee hero changes are pretty good and make it worthwhile investing in, I think. Foul Feast is an absolute beast for condition management. I also tried other solutions like Recovery but nothing really tops it.

>bow ranger
It doesn't hit the hardest, but it is very consistent if you handle it right. It can really shine in the right comp.

>>2758745
>>2758799
Thanks for that, especially the monk part. I hadn't considered prot with shelter in tandem would negate each other. I'll get more hex removal instead of that. I used to run a hex remover on mesmer but it's surprisingly manageable with just the one overall. Still, more won't hurt.

>ignite arrows
I tried various preps with different results. Poison spreading works well, but it's just a bit boring to execute. Ignite prep with incendiary arrows makes quite a hit when aimed at a small pack. Makes it so I'm constantly swapping targets to hit multiple targets and suppress key targets with my interrupts. It's not the most powerful, but it feels impactful, thus making it fun to play. I relegated poison to the blood necro, which works well.
I messed around with a daze build too but found mesmer to be spreading it more efficiently.

>Rebirth
It's there in case there is a partial wipe and I need to reset. It's a rare occurrence, but the chance is always there. Save yourselves is a solid idea nonetheless.

>Derv hero
You make good arguments, but Zenmai gets more pull from melee enemies than Melonni which is why I favor her. The dagger routine is straightforward enough, she rarely seems to mess up. Critical defenses seem to work hard and don't really drain my healers while she does good dmg. That said, when I have to enter a particularly hard area I do bring out the war/derv combo.
Mesmer already provides deep wound that gets spread very consistently.

>>2758745
>>2759191
Oh, and on Minions, not having them minimizes having unwanted pulls, and I often had the MM hero lag behind due to cast times of the minion skills. It's just an annoyance to deal with, always having to wait for the hero to catch up and get in position for the pull. The meatshield sure has upsides, and I do utilize it in missions like Vizunah Square where the enemy count is through the roof. But I prefer to avoid it for most things.

>>2759191
I am a professional ignite arrow lover so I can't blame you for enjoying using it lol, it's a fun set up and works well with incendiary. And yeah I knew why you had rebirth on there, it's the classic clutch res

If you want to feed ignite some more, the luxon/kurz triple shot is a fun skill to use with it.

If you're going to use an SB I'd honestly consider dropping Healing Spring, SB requires you to be slightly further from your heroes and it's super easy to rupt making it sub optimal for when you are taking pressure and would need to use it. If you're really attached to having a self heal I would run Troll ungent it's an extremely powerful alternative option, similar cast time but it's an unstrippable regen you can run off cooldown.

Also I would personally swap Whirling Defense for Lightning Reflexes lets you have better block uptime and it feels better to play.

It might honestly be worth considering putting a UA monk in instead of HB for your setup, you could run Deny Hexes on your UA which would be really nice for your hex problems, and UA plays better with sin heroes. Would let you drop rebirth as well, if you're in a situation where UA ends up dying you probably aren't escaping that fight.

Also this is the first time I ever looked at your ranger hero but drop Power Shot, it's one of the worst skills in the game it's not doing +25...45...50 its ONLY doing 25-50 damage no bonus. I'd swap it for savage shot or a condi. Alternatively you can indulge and be greedy and have it run Winnowing so your arrows do +4 extra damage.

>>2759268
I'm usually on recurve, swap to SB when it's safe to do so. Good point about lighting reflexes. I'll give the UA monk a shot too. I started out with Troll Unguent, but I found Healing Spring has its uses. When you're pulling 3 fire djinns, it can really nullify the searing flames spam. Sometimes I use it to bruteforce something I know will hurt. Serpent's quickness helps to keep it up with minimal downtime. It rarely gets rupted, which surprised me, but enemies really don't give a shit, and splash spell damage doesn't rupt it. I haven't unlocked the kurzick skills vendor yet but I'm close.
>power shot
Was meant to be savage shot, just an error. I only use that build for Margrid-related missions.

realized i can run symbolic celerity and signet of return on any mesmer not just a keystone one

I'm gonna miss tomorrow and probably next saturday too
post my /rolls so I can cherrypick the coolest one and pretend that was the last time I checked the thread

>>2760029
It's a solid tech, but two slots for that is kinda steep

>>2760726
who are you so I know who to roll for

also reminder we are progging in 1 hour. Goal of today is to make it to either Consulate Docks, or Yohlon Haven today.

>>2760749
true but it's about twice as good as flesh of my flesh in my opinion

ITS ALMOST PROG TIME LOG IN

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Avengers... assemble.

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ayo wut Tydus gon do bout it?

>>2761349
AYO

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>>2734393
Here are today's builds, no show from 2 members

>>2761278
Res chant is a good alternative

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>>2761359
Here's next sessions skills. Poor roberts is our minions death magic guy and he got cucked pretty hard by the dice.

WE WILL NOT BE PROGGING NEXT WEEK 3+ people out however we will do a UW run on sunday aug 2nd, haven't decided when yet.

We stopped at The Time is Night

HOMEWORK FOR NEXT PROG:

1: Reach sunspear R5
2: Don't be in starter armor still. I have enough trophys for a full set of poverty armor if anyone needs it ((kensuke))

Anyone else wanting to join our prog is welcome to join starting at consulate docks.

Bros the get first spear/level 12 part is so ass. Is the fastest way through really just to do every quest you come across?

>>2762133
Yeah, just do side quests and take bounties. Or I guess you could just farm mobs/"vanquish."

>>2762133
The fastest is to grind mobs, which sucks ass.

>>2762133
I'd be down to meet sometime during the week and work on sidequests/rank with others.

I'm looking for a man named "Haunty".

>>2762774
he's gay

>>2751523
its my melandrus accord character he's always broke

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I just recently started GWR, and wanted to see if any Anon's with decent knowledge of that game can let me know if my current build plan is not going to work.

PvE only Warrior/Monk (hear me out):
Attributes -
>12 Strength
>6 Axe Mastery
>2 Hammer Mastery
>12 Smiting Prayers

Skills -
>Keen Chop [3a]
Auto crits (Ignores 20% armor), restores 1 energy with that crit for "Zealous [Axe] of the Assassin" for my weapon modifiers, and has very low adrenaline cost, so more attacks helps restore energy further with Zealous on my axe.
>Disrupting Chop [6a]
Purely a control skill to inturrupt and disable enemy skills.
>Power Attack [5e/3scd]
Bread and butter damage skill benefitting from the Strength line for being a Warrior Primary.
>Cyclone Axe [5e/4scd]
AoE skill can is energy efficient with Zealous on my Axe.
>Auspicious Blow [5a]
My only dedicated Hammer skill used almost exclusively to restore Energy. Added benefit of being Unblockable is the target has Weakness.
>Castigation Signet [20scd]
Ranged Smite dealing 50 Holy Damage and restored 8 energy when used on an attacking attacker.
>Judge's Insight [10e/10scs]
Converts damage to Holy, and grants 20% bonus Armor Penetration. Lasts 18sec.
>Seven Weapons Stance [5e/20scd]
All weapon attributes are increased by +12 and increase attack speed by 33%. Lasts 17sec.

Weapon Set 1:
>Zealous Axe of the Assassin
>Shield
Weapon Set 2:
>Hammer

The goal is keep Judge's Insight and Seven Weapon Stance going as long as possible. Judge's Insight is ideal alongside having a high Strength score for a 32% passive Armor Penetration (AP), and Keen Chop adds a virtual extra 20% AP, allowing me to deal max weapon damage plus reducing the enemy's Armor benefit by 52%.

Seven Weapons Stance will virtually increase all my weapon attributes by 12, netting me a total of 18 Axe Mastery and 14 Hammer Mastery, with increase 33% attack speed just being great fir Adrenaline/Energy regen.

>>2765787
If you use a helmet with +1 Str and a superior Strength rune, you get 16 strength for 100% uptime on SWS and +16 to all weapon skills. Then you can drop axe mastery to 4, then bump hammer mastery to 4 to get 20 in both while SWS is active.

Looks pretty solid otherwise IMO. It's hard to 'eyeball' if you have enough energy management for this, but you'll probably be OK. If you find after playtesting you have more energy than you need, I'd consider swapping out the Castigation Signet for something that boost adrenaline gain. For Great Justice will give you more Auspicious Blows and more Keen Chops.

If you have heroes unlocked, you can also make the Judge's Insight buff 'external', I.E. bring a Smiting hero with something like Ray of Judgment, Strength of Honor, Judge's Insight, Smite Hex/Condition, and let them buff you up instead of casting it on yourself. You'd still need to self-buff if playing with other players where you can't slot in a support hero, but if you are playing with all or mostly heroes and have control over your team composition, stuff like this is worth considering when choosing which heroes to bring.

>>2765787
SWS wammo is pretty fun, you might wanna consider self-casting Balthazar's Spirit as it will supercharge you with energy and adrenaline since you're frontlining and probably tanking a ton of hits, won't need to do jank hammer swaps, and might even be able to drop the zealous mod and equip some real smiting spells like the freshly buffed Symbol of wrath

also get that strength up to 16 mate

>>2765850
>>2765855
I'll look into refining what I got, thanks. Only lvl.8 on a semi-fresh run, so I have a a but of time to figure it out before then.

>>2765869
you get Balthazar's Spirit in Beacon's Perch already so you can play around with it early

>guild got rich enough to afford TWO /u/s

Is it worth playing Necro if I don’t like minions (the health degen pisses me off)? I tried Icy Veins but it just seems kinda “eh”. Maybe I’m just too used to melee run in and spam attacks in general

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>>2766413
SS necro is pretty fun. i like necro in general since you can combine any caster second class with it because of soul reaping.
i'm currently playing pic related, which is more than good enough for normal mode, it's fun actually

>>2766413
minions arent everything. even within death magic you can do a pure damage build.

>>2766413
Ravenous Gaze Blood Magic builds are the new ESurge these days

>>2766638
Is it? Ravenous Gaze does solid damage now, but it's hard to build a midline damage bar that compares to dom mesmer with the rest of the skills available in blood magic.

>>2766638
Have an example? And how is it better than icy veins?

>>2766750
nta, but Ravenous Gaze on a DA bomber build is fun. Something like:

Ravenous Gaze
Unholy Feast
Dark Pact/Touch of Agony
Masochism
Mobility/Defense stuff of your choice

Then you either have a hero cast Dark Aura on you, or you invest in Death Magic and run it yourself. I guess you could also do something like Blood/Curses running Defile Enchantments for a midline damage dealer with Awaken the Blood, or just run typical death magic damage stuff but take Ravenous Gaze over Discord/Icy Veins, but these seem a bit awkward to me.

>>2766561
whats a good death magic build that doesnt use minions? im too poor to gear up away from death magic

>>2767224
Discord/Necrosis/Putrid Bile/Putrid Explosion, whatever else. Needs hexes and conditions in your team for Discord, or you can fill the empty spaces on your bar with those. Putrid Bile on its own is not enough hex support for Discord because of the 12s CD + being single-target.

>>2767281
Oh, and contagion bomber for the memes. Contagion, a shadow step, a bunch of stuff that inflicts conditions on yourself, maso+dark aura. Asuran Scan for DP removal.

>>2767281
Toxic Chill isn't so bad either, especially in builds that already have hexes.

>>2765787
Just my two cents as a not warrior main player, and there's nothing "wrong" with it, but ...
Castigation Signet isn't exactly good energy management, and requires you to stop doing anything at all for a whole second to cast it, and SWS is just providing IAS if you drop the hammer.
I'd drop the hammer, drop Auspicious, drop Castigation, drop SWS, add an IAS (increase attack speed), add Balthazar's Spirit, and add an actually fun and strong elite (like maybe Cleave, which they just mega buffed).
Attributes would be 12-10-8 axe-strength-smite maybe plus runes as you see ft.

>>2767375
Oh, and I guess you do get a number of attribute points in Axe with SWS, but still, powerful elites skills are fun when they feel like powerful elite skills rather than just a passive stat boost that becomes a chore to maintain.

>>2765787
I'm inclined to agree with the line of thinking in >>2767375 also I think just running more damaging adrenaline skills, which axe has plenty of, and using a zealous necro axe is substantially better bar compression. Would allow you to run things like cleave and dismember, spam cyclone and power attack and probably could use protectors for pseudo ias if you can't find a real ias you like

>>2766413
no necro fucking sucks and im pissed i made my "main" character necro so now i just spirit spam as n/rt because fuck sustaining minions it is the least fun gameplay in this entire game

what's a main character

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>>2767839
Castigation Signet is there moreso to keep my energy pool filled enough witjout sacrificing DPS so I'm able to land a Power Attack more frequently after buffing with SWS/JI, and they all share a similar cooldown as well. Also doubles as a ranged attack option against fleeing targets if need be.

The goal target rotarion is something akin to:
SWS > JI > Castigation > Power Attack > Power Attack > Keen Chop > Power Attack > Auspicious Blow > Power Attack > Keen Chop
Rinse/Repeat. Disrupting Chop as needed.

I also retooled the attributes to:
>15 Strength (+1 +3)
>4 Axe
>5 Hammer
>12 Smiting
Overall better than previous. Would like to get Strength to 16, but dropping Smiting down makes the JI juggle slightly harder to maintain.

Without having the build made, it's hard to tell if I have too much energy regen, but this is Warrior Primary, so too much might still not be a bad thing.