Return of the Thieves Guild edition>Crown Store Showcase - July 2026https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/70085>New Thieves Guild Questlinehttps://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/70137>Favors and Dynamic Encountershttps://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/70139>Zenimax affected by xbox layoffs. ESO reportedly lost half of its developers.>Elder Thread>>2504561>ESO Server Statushttps://esoserverstatus.net>Latest ESO Livetwitch.tv/bethesda>Places to Buy/Recommended Addons/Assorted Links/Tweakspastebin.com/BuD9GaGX- There are occasionally Free Play Events for prospective new players.>UI Addonsesoui.comminion.gg>/tesog/ Guilds[PC NA] mail: @taeralis, @zsj[PC EU] mail: @zsj, @Boggus, @NovaPixelOr post your @username/platform/location here.>Do I need to subscribe?Optional, with largest benefits being access to all DLC, cash shop currency on sub start/renewal, and the Craft Bag (can save your characters a ton of space).>Which faction should I choose?Want to PVP in Cyrodiil with friends? Make sure you're in the same faction. Otherwise, doesn't matter.>Where should I begin normal questing?Check out the OG beginner stuff, first: go to Port Hunding, Khenarthi's Roost, or Bleakrock.>Pledge/Trial Calendarbenevolentbowd.ca/calendar/eso-pledge-calendar-en/>DLC Chronological order flowcharthttps://imgur.com/a/1FqzvH1>The More You Know- Level Rewards give you tons of stuff along the way, including a free mount at level 10.- You need to be at least CP300 to queue for vet DLC dungeons.
this is it. the final /tesog/
>>2719062Things seen bad right now, but I doubt the game will shut down anytime soon
#esofam
>>2719042>brothel employee doesnt have any cleavage showingno wonder this game is dying
>>2719188look where the dog is looking. think about what the tail represents. this is why the game will never die
>>2719072Depends on the new roadmap I think. It was already too little and too slow, bad enough delays could cause numbers to drop like a rock and we can't assume years of maintenance mode from Xbox in their current state.
>>2719042why does the black guy have the most fuckass bowlcut i've ever seen in my life?
>>2719072It's been dying for years at this point. The core is quite good but the monetization is too extreme. they should try create an m+ mode like wow, people love that in that game. to an extent they shot themselves in the foot by not creating a true open world game from the start because it would have aged much better I think.
how do i raise the level of an equipment if i like its stats/set? i only see how to upgrade rarity
>>2719926You probably already have it in your stickerbook, so just transmute a new one for your desired level
>>2719958what
i just tried to do Alik'r dolmen farming and was getting like no xp. did 5 of them and didnt level up once whats with the hype?
>>2720051If you're in a group you'll get a lot more xp from kills, but even then it was never the fastest method, only the easiest. BRP or Skyreach are much more efficient, but less popular than the loop since they take more effort to set up and most of the playerbase doesn't want to socialize or pay for a carry.
>>2719309This roadmap for season one was published two days after the layoffs.
>>2721290Not that one, the long term one with multiple seasons and refresh schedules. S1 is already in the polishing stages and probably won't be affected much, S2 onwards is where things could really go to shit and piss off loads of players.
ESO might never get crossplay between consoles and PC now
>>2722403That's kinda crazy that they never tried it. Might have gotten a huge amount of people
>>2722486They were (are?) working on it at the usual glacial pace, it wasn't going to be ready by next year even before the layoffs.
BBC has published an article on xbox layoffs and things are not looking good for ESO judging by what one of the remaining ZOS devs said. Maintenance mode in near future is pretty much inevitable.
>>2723548I'm not optimistic and the layoffs seem more about union busting and salary trimming than performance, but I also don't think we should take the bitchposting from zos devs at face value. Read between the lines of Finnigan's bluesky post and its basically a confirmation they'd become a cliquey daycare that spent too much time fucking around and couldn't hold bad devs to account or take community criticism. This shit is why it took *nine months* for a studio with HUNDREDS of people to give mounts swimming animations.We saw a sharp improvement when MS killed Blackbird and caused/forced a change in the stagnant leadership roles, but the rot went beyond those few people at the top. This could be the spanking the manchildren needed to focus on their actual job instead of... chicken streams.
Funny how I have been a big Elder Scrolls fan since Morrowind and Oblivion but I never played TESO because I was busy playing WoW and FF14, now that I'm bored with those two games I finally started playing TESO (2 weeks ago) and all this bullshit happens. Guess I'll enjoy it while it lasts
>>2723904why are you playing ff14
>>2723904Even if Zenimax stopped making new content, this game already has 12 years of it.I started playing during blackwood and did everything in chronological order. Took me 1 year and half to get to the newest stuff (High Isle) at the time.
>>2723827They had way too many employees for a game like this. Fat needed trimming for sure
>>2724485It would be good if they did 400 people's worth of work instead of like, 40. They could have finished all the refreshes within the year and done a proper expansion in 27. Trimming the fat won't help if it turns out the entire company is fat, or if they can't hire new muscle to replace it.
>>2724669I'm sure someone in management tried but if they arent putting out the work in expected time the only thing you can do is cut. People will entrench and back each other up so it's impossible to know who's at fault
Whatever comes next can't be worse than Gold road and Ithelia
Dynamic events are such a snoozefest
Any mods that let me rawdog ayren?
>>2724979>Winterhold is about discovering the real magic is self-love>villains are Jyggalag cultists serving as a thinly veiled reference to the eeeevil art hating bosses>their leader also hates queers for going against the natural order because of course he does>Tanlorin is your mandatory sidekick for the entire zone>Shalidor is revealed to be a trans man>zos uses half the year's $350 budget hiring Elliot Paige to voice him>Jyggalag has a single line: "I HATE CHEESE"
>the waiter scrolls online>need to do group content to get gear>wait in queue>want to do dynamic events while waiting>wait on the beach>decide to join a guild to socialize and hopefully scrape together a group to avoid the wait>wait in application purgatory with no way to know if the officers of the guild I applied to are awol>want to do certain world bosses/incursions>wait for somebody to pass by>play pvp>wait trapped in spawn for the match to end>want some new content>wait for 6+ months for 4 quests
>>2725255maybe when the novelty of it wears down and less people engage with it, these events will become more challenging
>>2725960the only challenging part will be staying awake waiting for it to start
>>2725966dynamic events happen every 30 minutesyou're not supposed to wait for them to start
>>2723548I think the layoffs are a good thing. They're back to the summerset/wrothgar numbers. The thing that never made any sense to me is how you have so many people, and the best you could come up with is a season pass. More people means more/better content. (Which didn't happen)The new CEO is putting belt to ass. Todd getting Fallout ripped from his lying baby hands is the best news I've heard in years. Dudes were just sitting on their asses doing fuck all for like 14 years. I'm optimistic that this will lead to something better.
>>2726088Problem is they made them exclusive to specific spots in ancient zones that most players have no other reason to be in, you can't see it from outside the zone, and they end so quickly that if you do anything more engaging that survey farming you're likely to miss it. If you're not supposed to wait, why is it designed to punish anything else? In other news, looks like the composer/audio director was fired too.
>>2726088How are you supposed to know when the last one started? It's not at a regular time each hour, and it's impossible to know what time the zone instance spun up. So the only solution is to wait around.Inb4>Just ask peopleWho is just sitting around in the same zone afterwards? And what happens when it dies off and nobody was actually there for the previous one?
It's so over
It's eso over
>teleport between 3 regions every few minutes hoping to catch a dynamic encounter>icon shows up>rush to site>icon vanishes just as i get there>no chest>leave>actually catch one later>boring spamfest>so many players i can't see what i'm doing>get a bounty>the loot is assWould've preferred Instanced Encounters
>>2726179You're delusional. Keep buying the monthly subscription.
>>2727518>get a bountyYeah, they put a spawn zone right on top of a guard.
ESO should be recreated as a Skyrim mod
>>2727946and that's a good thingplayers should be more mindful of where they direct their attacks
okay I'm going to try to become a healer for an endgame group. it's my goal.which class should I work on? I have templar, nightblade, and warden
>>2728495Warden - best healer classTemplar - good for group buffs and debuff cleanseNightblade - good for ultimate buildup and debuffing enemies
So no new zone?
>>2729123when did warden become top guy
>>2727992Its way too big for that. Probably best to wait and see how 6 turns out before starting up another megaproject anyway.>>2729150No one knows yet, not even ZOS.
Now that this game is kill and the sacred lolcows have been fired, they definitely need to roll out the fan service to milk the last cents out of players. At the very least I expect a Lifts-Her-Tail maid costume or companion.
>>2729123honestly templar sounds more my style
>>2729219since this became a thinghttps://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Maturation
>>2730208
>>2729150nope, no new *real* zones this year night market does not countwe already knew that from their announcement back in january
>>2727225I wish my ESO looked like that. Are you using mods per chance
>>2730863Uh, no...
what's been going on with the pvp lately
>>2731102furry spamteam with the least werewolves gets to sit out the match timer in their base
https://bethesda.net/en/article/7wrffyXajE4BmCLJVpOkcN/a-note-from-bethesda-game-studiosBGS just gave a big update.>Starfield and 76 not dead, getting DLC next year>FO3 and NV remasters confirmed>FO5 in preproduction (implying ES6 is pretty far along)>"partnering closely" with ZOS to "align more directly" across the franchiseSo rather than sunsetting the game, its possible ZOS just isn't being trusted to run itself anymore and the quasi-merger with BGS created a lot of redundancies.
>>2731244not much change thenuntil now, every lore addition to ESO had to be approved by bethesda
>>2731315That was only for story elements, this will impact content development for better or worse. Going to BGS for efficiency sounds comical, but their own development pace isn't actually that bad, Todd just has them doing bullshit instead of the projects people want. Meanwhile ZOS's pace relative to its size is completely fucking insane for whatever reason.
New expansions will be written by Emil
>>2731244Surprised they actually bothered remastering New Vegas, that's the only real surprise here, everyone thought the remaster would be limited to FO3.
todd save eso
>>2731379grim>>2731465Todd can't even save himself
we are never going to winterhyold
Why the hell did Urcelmo hire me to help Jurak-Dar steal a ring from a Khajiiti temple? Is it just the Aldmeri Dominion being awful to the people it rules over?
I think they should allow every player in a trial group to bring their companions
>>2731446I mean if you do all the work to remaster 3, new vegas won't take more than a month to get up
>>2731244They should have some big event in ESO that ties into ES6.
>>2732965>They should have some big event in ESO that ties into EoS.ftfy
The game would improve significantly if all the trannies left
>>2734878But what would be left of AD?
>>2736429kek>>2734878the game would improve significantly if they wiped all classes and combat systems and started over. i don't want to bar swap 100 times to PVP with people.
>>2736429KeK
>>2736450Honestly not sure changes like that will happen with the games current popularity. The game is in decline population for the past like 6 years, but still popular enough that it isn't worth the risk.Sometimes I wish they'd bite the bullet and make the effects of oakensoul and velothi just toggable. Let players choose what kind of combat they want. But then I'm reminded how many people whined online when oakensoul was "good" and the "LA weaving community" got all pissy cause people were doing the same dps as them with minimal work.
>>2736571I'm convinced the popularity of weaving and barswapping is mostly survivorship bias. Same with the pvp quirks that allow for ball groups and 1vX. Probably too late now, but they would have gotten far more players than they'd lose if they had changed that stuff years ago.
>>2736794One of my earliest eso memories is finding a chest in a starter region and some cp3000 fat prostitute lit up like a christmas tree throwing shit at me to glitch me out of the animation and stealing my loot
The gameplay is fine. The only thing ESO need is more stuff to do (new content).
>>2737795Its really not. Combat is the #1 reason new players bounce off the game and current players are getting worn down by nonstop bad ideas and unfinished experiments.
As a returning player, I have to say, I'm glad to see so many of these little changes. The fact that they improved overland difficulty as a whole to me is a big drive.The story as a whole is what it is, but I had reason to actually engage with the game's mechanics, which is something I was never able to do, not since the very first days in which I tried the game.Are you guys sure the game is dying? Because it'd be a shame.
I'm redownloading ESO for hte first time im 3 years, what am I in for?
Is it true that people are expected to change gear between encounters in vet trials?
>>2738289No one actually knows yet, its a weird situation and we're waiting on a revised roadmap to see how the layoffs have affected them.>>2738322If you're doing hardmodes and such, yeah. I've never seen anyone demand it for regular vet runs.
>>2738245Nah. Most people leave the moment they realize this is not 'Skyrim but online', combat has nothing to do with it.If anything, the combat in on par with most mmorpgs out there
>>2727727I like my devs stressed out!I like my devs starving!I like my devs BROKE!I like my devs when they haven't seen their families in months!I like my devs divorced! TWICE!I like my devs fired when they suck at their jobs!That is when they do their best work. That is when they go hard in the paint.
>>2738503Yeah I suspect this is a huge factor of it. Most mmorpgs have shit combat, but are still popular. So many people play this game because they're looking for their next "TES" hit, including singleplayer games. I feel like that's why they've been so focused on story/solo experiences recently. I remember them talking about how in the middle of development, Skyrim blew up in popularity. And they had to readjust to try to account for all these people wanted Skyrim Online. Such as first person view. That was mainly put in the game because of Skyrim's success. But even that being said, most mmorpgs are dying/declining in population. People act like its unique to ESO, but all mmorpgs are facing issues atm.
I'm once again boredthere's nothing to on this game
>>2719336>Dreadbowl
Where can I find nowhere keys?
friendly reminder tesog EU beat vmol in 2019
I'm leveling scrying and shit. what's a good item to work towards as a stamina templar
>>2745988https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Markyn_Ring_of_Majestyhttps://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Harpooner%27s_Wading_Kilthttps://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Mora%27s_Whispershttps://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Oakensoul_Ringhttps://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Sea-Serpent%27s_Coil
>>2745988now I need to collect skill points so I wrapped up coldharbour quests and skyshards. really enjoy these quests, I will say this game has the best quests and story of modern mmos.
>>2744302and how many trials you guys completed since then?
>>2750539Different people have told me this multiple times, but I can't see it. I don't mean to disrespect; if you're having fun, you're having fun, but I just came back, and it's bland, boring characters and events with no real impact whatsoever. Every single NPC that you interact with in the main story has a huge boner for you two seconds after you speak to them, unless they're the blatant villains. There are no real stakes, and, by the end of the day, you do the same stuff on repeat over and over, which, considering this is an MMO, it'd be fine, wasn't this also an Elder Scrolls, so I walked in expecting decent, or at the very least, fun writing too. Hopefully, I'll be proven wrong proceeding forward into the game, but my hopes are down.
>>2751476what are you talking about? Have you done the coldharbour quests? orsinium? there is consequences and nobody is gassing you up, much the opposite really.
ESO should be adapted into a movie
Is there any decent roleplay or, hell, even ERP to be found in this game? Or is it all a meaningless grindfest and I would be retarded to even consider playing this unless I really am fiending for a Scrolls-themed game?
>>2751883There used to be many communities but the AI moderation killed most of them.
>>2751883I see rp focused guilds being advertised pretty often, might be your best bet.
>>2751810No, haven't gone through the entire story yet. I'm level 32 and just got into Coldharbour. I'll give it a chance, and I'll be happy if anything after this point improves, but I gotta say: that's a lot of play time of nothing burgers in terms of story. So far, it has felt like a massive, meaningless grindfest.
>>2752004>AI moderationAlright yeah nevermindGood day tesog
>>2752108What have you been doing in the game? When I did daggerfall alliance when I first started I had fun. The vampire and werewolf questlines were so cool.
>>2752863daggerfall also has the advantage of more interesting politics, mostly because their king is kind of an idiot and that leads to more tensions
>>2752863I'm going through the Dominion stuff. Aided Razum-dar save the queen from the Veiled Heritance, helped the Bosmer king with the Silvenar and The Green Lady (both outrageously boring characters), found a new Bramble King, saved the Queen (again) from her treacherous brother, escorted a pair of khajiiti sisters through their journey to become the new the Mane (I couldn't care less about one or the other), and now I'm saving people in Coldharbour.Each of the characters I listed is outrageously two-dimensional and poorly voiced. Which could even be okay, if they were FUN, but they're not. The only guy I have a certain fondness for is Razum-dar, despite being the first example of a brown-noser in the game and never letting go.>>2752866I think that you nailed it. The politics for the Dominion are dull as all hell, and surprisingly self-serious. They seemingly refused to include the Altmer's more "problematic" traits into the game (relegating them all into the Veiled Heritance, with which you interact very little and they come across as charmless, mustache-twirling villains who object to the Queen’s right to the throne), meaning that (again, so far) they come across more as generic elves, rather than their usual butt-hurt, sanctimonious selves. It’s funny that you mention Daggerfall’s King, because my brain somewhat sparked back to life upon interacting with him before getting to Coldharbour.
>>2752947Oop, meant "Wilderking" not "Bramble King".I was thinking of another game.
>>27510460
>>2752947The AD questline is a process of the Eyes of the Queen replacing all local leaders with Dominion loyalists.
>>2752947the only AD zone I've done all of was auridon, and I really can't remember the main quest but quite enjoyed the ayleid stuff and it has a nice payoff with coldharbour. It's too bad that their quests weren't as fun as daggerfall covenantColdharbour is cool, though, especially if you've been doing guild stuff. Orsinium is worth doing afterwards because it's a really well done story.
>>2753498Maybe, but while what you say does sound like it would be written as something entertainingly nefarious (or, at the very least, cold and calculated), in the actual execution, they play it off like your Queen is discount Lady Galadriel and you're in a Marvel movie. The rulers you replace are often bad guys anyway, or have done something undoubtedly evil that justifies their removal. The Altmer are completely off character in that sense, with the Queen even proudly mentioning a somewhat secret relationship with Razum-Dar at some point, which comes off as a funny joke and something they're both genuinely happy about. And while that's cute, it's also not what I was expecting while playing for the Altmer faction at all, seeing as how they perceive Khajiits as nothing but cattle or pets at best, and that's only because they willingly bent the knee for them. So, they're supposed to be useful idiots to them. I wouldn't even mind if that was the only exception, but there are plenty of instances like this. Up to where I got, they want you to see Ayrenn as a good, levelheaded leader, which, on top of being a weird choice for the character, also winds up being bland, dull, and boring.>>2753498I might try the sidequests somewhere down the line. I did stumble across a few of them, and I didn’t mind what I've seen at all (in a good way). I also still have to try the actual multiplayer content, like dungeons and such. Don’t worry, though, because, while I sit here whining and complaining, I also played up until 5 AM yesterday. So, I might be oddly hooked to at least see where this all leads, and this is the only multiplayer thread I recurrently come back to check. So, they either did something right (especially with being able to crank up the difficulty level), or I’m deeply autistic for MMOs in which I can play weird, alien races. Probably the latter.
>>2754102Remember that Ayrenn is trying to replace "We should not associate with lesser races" racism with "We have a duty to rule lesser races" racism.
>>2754481 Even if she spelled it out loud somewhere in the story itself, I can't really see it. It never feels that way. But, even if you were right, that isn't the real problem. They can make her "good"; it can make sense for her to be (though that's a huge, missed chance for a cold, distant villain ruler, the sort that could have attracted the majority of players to its faction), the thing is, they forgot to make her fun. In the great scheme of things, her story beats still work, which is why I look forward to them doing something cool with what they set up, especially given that it looks like this anon >>2751810 might be right, and the quests outside the Dominion main line are considerably more entertaining. But up to level 32? It has been a drag. Which is a shame, I think this MMO had the potential to be the best out there. I'm growing fond of it myself, despite its problems.Which is why I'm sad to see a lack of updates and a somewhat weak community. Speaking of which, isn't it hellish that they set the chatbox balloons option off by default? Most people won't even notice you're trying to interact with them that way, and it's sad, because I feel like most of the time, whenever they do happen to notice the message, they reply, and it's fun.
Bro really said waycism
>>2755331In early development they intended AD to be the "evil" faction. They retooled to make it more generally appealing. I am a fan of the Ayrenn's not real theory.
>>2756056Personally, I would have preferred if they stuck with that. I think it would have made for a more fun run. As for the theory, I don't know how it plays out, but if it's entirely fan-made and the game doesn't hint at it in any way, then I'm not necessarily interested, but I'm curious to see why people would want to think that.As for the rest, I'm checking out a sorcerer guide, and I'm officially fucked because I like a dead game. Help.
>>2756237The Eyes of the Queen show they can disguise as her. The first act since her return she is associated with is the Massacre at Cormount, which aided King Camoran, who incidentally rules the capital of the Dominion (Elden Root). The official story of the timeline of her disappearance and return don't make sense.
>>2756492That would be pretty neat, but are you sure that's not just them overlooking an important detail?
>>2756508I don't think the game hints at it, but it makes more sense than the pile of bland characterisation and insensible goals of the Dominion formally.
>>2756591Welp, I agree.On a different note, any decent sorcerer sets I should go after at level 37?
>>2756656Sets don't really matter until cp160.
>>2757411Oh, good then. Back to slapping Daedra ass.
I stopped playing and following this game around Gold Road, what's new since then? I kinda miss eso
>>2757972dev team has been massacred by microslop jeets and we're most likely entering maintenance mode soon
>>2758117And I just got into it.Any advice for where to go if that happens? Any other MMOs that are worth trying, other than Runescape?No asian stuff, nothing against it, but I specifically enjoy western style and narration.
>>2758117uhh ok, any new areas or mechanics though since then?
>>2758643Solstice, an island they just made up and cobbled together out of previous expansion assets. That's the weird thing about the whole layoff situation, their output was already so bad that people thought they were a scrappy skeleton crew. Turns out their team was massive, and even after the layoffs its still around the same size as the teams that made Summerset or Orsinium, so its now clear that ZOS was bloated with garbage devs and actually needed to clean house. The layoffs *might* be good for the game.
I got all 4 fragments of the new housemight screenshot the place later
>>2758856interesting
Where is the warden rework?
They fucking fired Rich Lambert?
Anons, is there any way to get rid of this fkn fog in overworld locations? Most of the old mods that worked back in the Necrom and ReShades dont help anymore - either nothing changes or the game wont even launch. This might sound dumb, but i literally cant play because of it, locations with this fog look fucking depressing and totally out of place most of the time
>>2761165Delayed. It was supposed to be on the u51 pts which has been delayed twice now, and it seems there's a gag order on the subject. Last stream was like a damn hostage situation, they wouldn't even say the word warden.
>>2761169Yes, and he wasn't even on the ESO team anymoreGina is gone too
They definitely need to introduce a french maid costume, it's the only way the game will survive another year.
Probably no one gives a shit, but found a way to partially remove overworld fog, need to install Neat Perfection ReShade + some old addon fog remove (just the mod file itself, not the full archive) boom, done.Anyway, i visited Craglorn out of curiosity to check the pop. Zone chat is completely dead, no one recruiting for trials, barely anyone hanging around.Ported to Auridon, literally zero RPers near the wayshrine. Is it just off peak hours or is the game actually this sad compared to Necrom, pre Gold Road release?
>>2763396No one goes to craglorn anymore for trials since there is a dedicated menu for recruiting and forming groups now.
>>2759997
>Healing someone fleeing from a guard grants you a bountyWhy?
>>2764498Why wouldn't it? You're aiding a criminal.
>>2762964Ouch that's harsh
>>2765170not really...
>>2765170Justified though, both were collecting fat paychecks for basically no work. Rich's new position was a textbook fake job and Gina was just unnecessary, the actual devs should be perfectly capable of using their own forums and managing one or two monthly streams.
>>2765853Even still, this game's "behind the curtain" behavior is so gosh darn troubling. First director leaves to try to support blackbird. It gets cancelled, so he leaves. Person replaced him left the role after a year. Just looking at the way things have been going from a company standpoint. It really seems like they weren't investing into ESO that much. Like they weren't sure of its future or confident that it would not stop dying. I have to wonder if Microsoft came in, looked at ZoS, and saw that they weren't focusing on ESO. "You have an elder scrolls IP MMORPG. its your only released game. And for the past 3-4 years, you've been seemingly putting it on the backburner while you invest into all these other projects and not much to show for it. Half of you are fired, get back to focusing on ESO.".I mean they have like what, 200-250 people working at ZoS? If they can't support ESO with that size...ESO's engine/code pipeline must be an absolute mess.
How would you feel about a "let the player craft their own combat" system? Basically taking the concept of oakensoul ring and velothi and expanding upon then. Instead of those effects being something tied to artifacts, they're something you toggle. Either at a shrine in game or just at a settings menu like the difficulty slider. It would be split into three>Bar SwapEnable or Disable bar swap. Disabling it gives you the effects Oakensoul Ring has. Don't like bar swap? Use this setting>Light/Heavy Attack strengthEnabling or Disabling it gives you the effect of Velothi. Don't like DPS being as reliant on LA/HA weaving? Enable this>Global Cooldown ModifierA new one. People constantly complain about how the combat is "too spammy" with abilities. This setting will put a GCD on all abilities. However, it also will increase the strength of all abilities by a set amount. That way their DPS stays the same, but it just makes it so you spam less.Since the three main complaints about ESO combat are the bar swap, LA/HA weaving, and then the spamming of abilities; give players the ability to adjust these as needed. Would certainly give something unique to ESO. Not many mmorpgs let you "design" your own combat.Maybe at the start, only allow these things in the open world. To avoid any competitive impacts. Then see how they fare.
>>2767093Yeah, either the code is fubar or most of the devs are a waste of salary, probably some mix of both. There's no other explanation for the game declining so badly with a team that size. Well, maybe embezzlement but we'd have seen lawsuits or charges by now if that was the case.>>2767345My problem with all of these, whether they're toggles or items is that they're only bandaids over fundamentally bad systems. I'd rather see the weeds ripped out than spraypainted.>barswapStreamline buffs and roll dots into other skills, freeing up the backbar to allow for distinct playstyle changes instead of being a dumping ground for mandatory buff skills and short dots.>weavingJust needs to die. Wouldn't be a complex fix, make it so LAs can't be cancelled by skills specifically (dodge/block cancels are fine) and buff everything 10-15% to compensate.>GCDI think they're already doing a decent job handling this, with options for channeled playstyles vs more bursty combos.
I think that a 30 minute cooldown between dynamic encounters is way too much
>>2767513They're bandaids, 100%. But I don't think they'll ever risk a full combat rework so long as the game is alive. I think if they start dropping below 8k peak players on PC regularly, then they may consider a combat rework the way to go. OR they may just cut their loses and start focusing on a different game as potentially the rework would either require enough resources or be so risky that they would rather just release a new game. But dropping below 8k puts them in NW territory. Right now they're peaking at 13k-15k on PC probably. Now this isn't great mind you. It hasn't been this low since 2018. But I don't think its at a state where a combat rework is in the deck. That's why I'm thinking these "optional change bandaids" are the way to go. Let players choose. Less risk. >>2769560I think all 3 are on different CDs. So if you get the timing right, you can just hop between them. But yeah, the gist I got with this was that this content is meant to be side content. Things to do while you're exploring the world Not sit around waiting for them to spawn. The absolute dumpsterfire that these events become when you get more than 10 people is evidence of this to me. Problem is that people are starving for new content, so they are mass farming them. Along with this, they only release 3. They should have released 1 for each zone. One of these events is the same as a SINGLE regular dynamic event in Gw2. And they have ton of those going all over the place. I have to wonder if these events are them "testing" things out. See if its popular enough to invest more into.
So is the game on life support now that half the dev team was fired?
>>2769928not yet but it will probably be next year
>>2769928That's sorta up in the air. Things are unknown, but so far we haven't seen anything that points towards it being on life support. We will know for sure in a year from now. But here is some of the data>Team SizeZoS has over 200 employees working at their company. Their team size is the same as it was when they made their first DLCs that were released back in 2015. Which a lot of people liked. So they should have more than enough people to keep supporting their game. >Release TimingThe roadmap is up in the air, but nothing is cancelled. The only hint we've got is that "things may be delayed". To what extent, we're not sure. >Content TypeThey used to do this thing where it was one new zone, a new story to go along with it, and then some spattering of dungeons/trial a year. The problem is that the game has been trending downward since 2020 and this release cadence didn't seem to have an impact. So they reshifted their entire dev pipeline to support a "seasonal system". A battlepass like system with a free and paid track. BUT, all future content would be free. So for this year 5 DLC are going to be made free for all players. Two new main story lines. Class visual reworks. Misc systems like difficulty sliders. A new trial. But also some new experimental content. Dynamic events (small and large), sage's vault, and night market. They're also testing "solo dungeons" to appeal to those RPG players. So while it isn't any new traditional zones, you can make the argument that the resources used are similar. In short, we're waiting to see how the new content impacts player retention and if the release speed is enough to impact the 6 year decline we've been seeing. With ~2028 being the "riskiest" year for the game in a longg time.
>>2770034AI botpost
>>2770094Nah, didn't use AI lmao. Who would use AI for a 4chan post. Why do you think it is?
>>2770118You'd be surprised how many people (especially ESLs) struggle to string more than a few sentences together without it, its gotten so common that wannabe Butlerian jihadis get set off by anything with bullet points or summaries.
Feels like we're gonna see that roadmap around the same time as the first commercial fusion plant. Its right around the corner guys!
>>2770924the second content drop for season one is in just two days. we'll probably have the roadmap by then
>>2771727That post was today, so it can't be that early. Probably next week around the pts launch.
Bros, i paid 15k gold for some random dude merc from group finder. Because i was unable to close Blackreach rift solo. Did I get robbed?
Also, could you give me a quick guide please? Havent played in two years, what important things did i miss, and what is currently worth doing? I ran through the new event in Glenumbra once with a big crowd, but im curious about what else ive missed during this time and what should focus
>>277230815k gold is basically nothingyou can buy 2 or 3 motif pieces with that
>>2772688Yeah, understand. But honestly, it was pretty lucky finding a mercenary like that, i couldnt fully clear the area because i still had that rift left to do, and then he just happened to show up
Apparently you can't finish the last favor quest for the covenant right nowhttps://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/696784/favor-for-lady-ababelle-find-rendezvous-spot-near-soulshriven-tower
>dude haha cheese so random!>holds up spork of horripilation!!!this shit was tiring 15 years ago. Are "people" really incapable of writing madness without resorting to this shitty meme? Might as well have a questline about putting arrows in knees.
it's been 20 years since oblivion and boomer-millenial devs at bethesda and zos still think dude cheese lmao is the funniest shit ever
anus vs punani crate kek
I like sheogorathHe's funny
having returning player fluff on this game is insane, literally never been so over. i was gone for what like two weeks as well
>>2776805On the bright side, the hacks who wrote this crap were probably caught in the layoff.
They should Make Sheogorath punish us with nonsensical riddles and ragebait like a golden skyshard which reduces the amount of skill points by half if we pick it up and his own personal Lifts-Her-Tail who acts like an ESO version of Harley Quinn and is promised to us as a companion if we complete the quest but in the end of the quest she transforms and turns out to be just a literal lizard pet wearing maid uniform.
Why does ESO Sheogorath look like Skyrim Sheogorath and not Oblivion Sheogorath?
1k years of crown store reruns>>2777649this is skyrim online not oblivion online
>>2777321that's been in the game for more than a year
look at this cat
>>2779010Her hair looks like a poop tarantula.
>>2778843told on myself there
Awful portrayal of sheogorath. He's supposed to be a madman, not a cheese connoisseur
>>2779372The cheese thing came from Oblivion, and he's been autistically obsessed ever since. Is autism in his sphere?
>>2719042Post more ESO prostitutes.
>>2719336>>2743334>>2779010>>2779012>thieves guild dread-bowlcut>turd tarantulaI'm beginning to think that maryland might have the most fucked up barbers in the country by far
4v4v4 bgs are back for good with update 51. Also new PvP zone likely (unless delays) in early 2027.
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/70213it's over
>>2780183>For the Class and Combat refresh, we are targeting 2027 for the next refresh. However, we are discussing some interim options for the classes still awaiting their full refresh to improve your player experience in the meantime. lmaoSeriously, how is that even possible? Warden should've been nearly finished before the layoffs.
you guys are actually still playing this?
I remember an anon saying back when the thread was still on vg that the end of the game would be marked by them releasing a new Skyrim DLC. They didnt drop a new one here, of course, but they made existing chapters free. Was he actually onto something?
>>2780243what would (you) do to fix warden?that class is a mess thematically. devs probably can't agree on how to proceed with it either
grandads master destro build still got it :0)
Here is an image comparing the roadmap published at the start of the year and the new one
>>2780512Thematics are easy. Declare that Warden is Skaal-themed and switch out the Morrowind critters for hawks and wolves. Gameplay wise, stam line uses plain animals to deal ST bleed damage and build stacks on the bear for burst windows, mag line slaps a frost skin on the animals and focuses more on sustained AoE with the frost ult.Then, offer skin packs that switch up the theme. Morrowind pack swaps in the old animals, turns the bear into a Kagouti or something, and reskins all the frost grey so it looks like ash storms. Then drop a Redguard pack as a tie-in for 6 with desert creatures and sand skins, and so on. People would throw their wallets at that shit.That said I doubt they halted the entire project over thematics. They could just shelve it and switch to something simpler like Templar or NB if that was all.
>>2777592That's just wishful thinking. If they were, they got replaced by AI that's merely going to write more of exactly this kind of garbage. You have to keep your expectations low.
>>2780981We do know the writing team was gutted (get fucked Tanlorin), so odds are actually pretty good. But I didn't say I expect the writing to improve because of it, at this point my expectation is that we won't even have enough content for it to matter.
>>2781016That's a good point.
>>2780948KeKIt floppedMaintenance mode confirmed
>>2780948I see Sage's vault went nowhere.
>>2782061Reminded me of the time they changed Endless archive to Infinite archive for some reason
>>2782069They never gave an official statement on the reason, but it was likely to head off potential trademark disputes either with Sega's Endless Dungeon that released around the same time or with EA since they'd share an abbreviation. Sage's Vault might've been close enough to something else for the legal team to get twitchy again, or maybe it got reserved for a location in TES6.
it's about to be august and rolis is still selling solstice blueprints..
>>2783974what else would he sell? we are not getting a new zone this year
>>2783983I wouldn't be shocked if Winterhold doesn't have anything for him either. It definitely won't be a full sized zone and unmonetized furnishings seem like one of the first things beancounters would want to omit.
>>2727992I mostly agree, as the other anon said, its too big for that. But I'd love it if they just opened up all the assets so modders of the other tes games can import stuff out of it. All the Vvardenfell assets would be real nice in a Morrowind mod for example.
I abhor Cheese in all its form, should I go wine on the forums how this sheogorath thing is non-inclusive and triggering me?
>>>/vg/498928921>>1730375Sheoplasm
how long will 77 veterancy take me, i need the fire's torment staff for my dark warlock roleplay
i for one enjoy the Sheo cheese event
>>2786887It's not an event...
>>2787022quest i like it
What is the next dungeon on the rotation for mask style drops? Unfortunately, i dont own Coral Aerie so this one is skip for me. By the way, do people still farm these mask style pages?
Will we ever get a free ESO+ week again?
>>2787533There's no set rotation for those, sometimes you even get random 2 year gaps, that's why some styles can reach astronomical prices. And yeah, people still farm them but considering the game's state it might get harder and harder to find groups or sales as endgame players bleed off.
>>2787744Unpredictablelast one we got was in august 2025
>Midyear Mayhem event (August 5 - 12)
Noth the Unhinged
>>2790450
>unhinged>Hehe look it's literally a cat that talks!Tranny reddit cat
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/697154/pts-patch-notes-v12-1-0PTS notes up.
>>2793276One future event, content that should've been in the game already and unnecessary tweaks to the alchemy system.
Really enjoying my skyrimjob legendary+survival mode playthrough, was tempted to want to port my character into this game. I read the thread and see that it's very close to maintenance mode, if I started now it will probably be dead by the time I hit max level and do all the overworld content. Shame. I actually bought the imperial edition of this game at launch, think it gave me a special mount and the Imperial crafting skin or something.
>>2794575>hit max levelI've been playing ESO for 5 years now and I'm nowhere near cp3600.>do all the overworld contentThis game has a lot of content. I'd say a minimum of 2 years to clear everything at least once
>>2794575You have plenty of time. Worst case is probably still 3ish more years until EoS, with one more year of pathetic updates, then a year of official maintenance mode, then another year's notice for the shutdown. Whales have no standards and will likely sustain it for longer than that.
>>2794656Oh right, I forgot they added that retarded ass champion point grind with craglorn. Another reason not to play. Or do they balance things in the Cyrodiil PvP (assuming its still alive)?That open world pvp was amazing at launch. I remember capturing an elder scroll
>>2794684Why the hell do you want to engage with pvp? It's the worst part of the gameIn two days we're having our mandatory bi-annual pvp event (>>2790348) and no one is excited for it
>>2794699what's the good part of the game then? the singleplayer component is all just Temu skyrim
>>2794717And Skyrim is just temu oblivion
>>2794730name one thing oblivion does better than skyrim
>>2794752Main and guild questlines, Combat, Spell system, NPC interactions, Lore accuracy, RPG elements. Oblivion is THE Elder Scrolls game
>>2794774>Main and guild questlinesThey all suck. Only Morrowind has a good main quest. And only the Dark Brotherhood in Oblivion is decent.>CombatOblivion's combat is just Skyrim's but even more rudimentary. >Spell systemYes, this is the only one you may have a point on, since Skyrim doesn't let you craft spells. Nevertheless, Skyrim has a much greater variety of spells and spell effects. >Lore accuracyAh yes, the lore of Cyrodiil, the vast jungle metropolis. Oh wait it's just generic western europe fantasy aesthetic because the LOTR movies were popular.>RPG elementsLike what? Oblivion doesn't even have persuade or intimidate.>Oblivion is THE Elder Scrolls gameYes, because you played it on the 360 when you were 13. Morrowind is the most well regarded, and Skyrim is by far the most popular.Oblivion is the red headed step child of TES.
As someone who's been away for a while (I usually eso like 2 or 3 months per year) I have to ask. Is this game fucking over now with all the layoffs? How are things going?
>>2795122I think it's entering a death spiral that they won't be able to course correct in time. Blaming the layoffs is cope though, ZOS is just a dysfunctional company and that's probably why they got hit so hard in the first place. Warden's rework and the new trial were supposed to be ready around this time, being delayed into next year indicates the pre-layoff team wasn't even close to keeping up with their already too-slow roadmap and would've continued pushing back and scaling down content regardless.
>>2795205Apparently it's been reduced to like 7 people so they might be able to finish projects that were already in progress but I can't see that team doing anything entirely new.
>>2795239Not even close. They had like 500 employees, lost around 60 IIRC when Blackbird was cancelled, then 216 in the recent layoffs so its still quite large. Losing half the company is certainly disruptive no matter the size, but the game has been declining for years and the current biggest pain points all came from the pre-layoff team. The idea that they're a poor little skeleton studio starved by big corpo is just people struggling to understand why such a high profile MMO can't ever seem to get its shit together.
>>2794996>Only Morrowind has a good main questFactually wrong. morrowind is a snooze fest and I have no idea how some people can play it without falling asleep>Oblivion's combat is just Skyrim's but even more rudimentaryNah, Oblivion is better>Cyrodiil, the vast jungle metropolisJungle cyrodiil is flat earth tier conspiracy.>Oblivion doesn't even have persuade or intimidatet. failed the persuasion wheel minigame
all they have to do is remove multi classing and bring back weaving. that's it. that is all that needs to be done and people will come back
>>2795585weaving is still in the game, they never removed it
>>2794996Your only experience with these games is through faggot youtubers huh? >>2795463Based
>>2795585Class mastery already shoved subclassing out of the meta for everything but tanking, and weaving never went anywhere.
>tank goes wrong way on coa2>has to be reminded what dungeon he queued for>takes 0 shortcuts>starts boss without hitting hm>no gg, just "you're welcome"
>>2795463>instead of arguments I will just be a contrarian>>2796091>then I will samefagoblivionbabbies everyone
>>2796580Okay Lets take this seriously then yea? >QuestsMatter of preference really I prefer Oblivions guild quests more but both main quests are comparable>CombatOblivion the ability for anyone to cast spells without needing to use a hand is incredibly kino it allows anyone to use at least a few spells without having to focus on them unlike Morrowind which needs you to have roughly 50 in a skill to make anything worth fucking trying coupled with fatigue management its really just made for autists to hyper optimize the game and is overall clunky mods can "fix" this but why play the game if you cut a core part of it out?>Lore accuracyThe whole jungle thing was much more of a technical limitation than anything to do with LOTR and I'm guessing you love Kirkbride for some reason? So you should know Hemisker or whatever in Whiterun spouting shit is from his attempt to make it cannon that the landscape was changed>RPG elementsYou're retarded the wheel exists and arguably has more "depth" than morrowind but both are pretty shallow in this respect it.>THE Elder scrolls gameIs actually daggerfall its by far the best TES game and leagues better than morrowind it just happens to be "too old" to enjoy and since no content creators make videos on it its just not in the public mind Go watch MickyD and whatever other tranny who latched on to a game thats older than them.
>>2796814I like how you took a discussion of "skyrim is better than oblivion" and just used it to air your grievances against Morrowind, since that game apparently filtered you.In any case, massive strawman, I don't think I need to bother replying to these "arguments"Also,>uses "lore accuracy" as a metric to judge the games>proceeds to criticize kirkbride out of nowhereWho do you think created half the lore lil zoom?
>>2797071NTA>Who do you think created half the lore lil zoom?not kirkbride you tourist, he was only at bethesda from 96-2000 with some contracting work up to 2006. While he coauthored fan favorites like pgte 3e and added to some of the more fantastical elements, by no means did he write half the lore or anything approaching a majority of it.
the anniversary crates are returning, we are saved...
>>2796814>...but both main quests are comparableNah, 90% of morrowind's quests are: 1. Find item(s), 2. Bring it to NPC. Boring and makes the world feel dead since NPCs don't interact with each other>actually daggerfall its by far the best TES game...daggerfall is morrowind but procedurally generated>>2797071>~le filterednever seen this argument used in favor of a good game, only with trash that is not worth anyone's time
>>2797884Filtered by Morrowind x2>>2797315He's the single biggest contributing mind to the worldbuilding of Morrowind. Any previous games don't matter, it's all retconned later. Morrowind is what made TES popular, that's when the real lore begins.>umm akshully he only did 1 quarter of itCope.
>>2797884I've also finished morrowind hes just a simpering retard daggerfall is like 100 times more autistic anyways whatever
>>2797697What is in this crate?
>>2798107more wacky and heckin FUNKOPOPALICIOUS cosmetic gear so your retarded ass t(r)oon can look like an even bigger retarded faggot
>>2796056>>2796483you don't need weaving to do leet dps anymore. the only place it matters is score pushers and they all left anyway since weaving was nerfed. you used to be able to tell when a player was good, not anymore
>>2798402Elitism over an easy but tedious animation exploit is retarded and the idea that making it mandatory again would raise player counts is hilarious. You think a bunch of people are going to rush back so they can brag about... clicking their mouse good?
>>2795585>all they have to do is (rollback everything they worked on for the past 2 years)Damn
Did you spare Maddy?Also that was the end of the questline yeah? Noth just chases after him, how boring.
>>2797897>umm akshully he only did 1 quarter of itco-authored maybe a tenth of what was written during his tenure, which is a fraction of what exists. I like the work he did a lot, but you're smoking crack if you think>he's the single biggest contributing mind to the worldbuilding of morrowindwhen julian lefay and kurt kuhlmann were there.seethe
>>2798595>no playersso why bother to play this over modded skyrim?
>>2799202>enters the conversation to split hairs about kirkbride and white knight for braindead zoomers who say morrowind sucks and oblivion was the best in the franchise
>>2798448shut up noob
>>2799335There's a social aspect it's just extremely cliquey but I think most MMOs are now a days
>>2799043i did im not sure what happens if you dont
>>2799335Just appreciate the breton architecture
>>2799350>I'm wrong so it's splitting hairs nowI accept your concession
>All style pages from previous events are availableNice>No new pages for this eventIt's over
I still like Southen Elsweyr.I think Senchal would be better if dragons randomly flew over and holocausted sections of the city like Deathwing did in Wow: Cataclysm.
>>2802123I wonder if they will ever add that middle section of Elsweyr to the game. There is interesting stuff there like Torval and most of the Tenmar forest
>>2802179That looks like a very pretty SEA holiday location.Too pretty for a skeleton crew company like ZOS to implement into ESO unfortunently.
>>2798448you're such an insecure little shitter aren't you. yes, the game was better when garbage like you couldn't press one button and do more dps than someone weaving and getting their rotation timed correctly. you suck, faggot. you really really suck
>>2801274no one cares, oblivion is temu skyrim
>>2799585>>2801337>>2802123>>2802179>>2802209>>2802697Truth
>>2802697>getting this mad over a bugAgain, that shit was never hard, just tedious.
>>2799043I killed him because I think he would be happier not existing
dynamic encounters...nonono more like dogshit excursions>>2803104shut it noob freak
I like templar is it a good solo class? specifically stamina builds
>>2803139last i heard it suffers particularly without support but maybe you can do it these days with class mastery and other cool power creep
>>2802993Oblivion came first, that makes skyrim is the cheap copy
>>2803160Skyrim was a falloutlike however
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8hMcsjCDFcSheo so based he makes people go insane irl
>>2803160skyrim has been around since arena. was oblivion mentioned in arena?
>>2803164you just reminded me that people used to call Fallout 3 "Oblivion with guns"
>Oblivion came first, that makes skyrim is the cheap copy
>>2803174genius Todd
Hmmm Alessian Rebel Guards has a problematic dye slot overlap of leather and metal
>>2802209A second elsweyr expansion would certainly print money. No idea why they never did it
do you have the rogue house yet
>>2803986Yea, I posted it in this thread>>2763889 >>2763890
>check PVP Cyrodiil queue out of curiosity >1 bar at prime time for all factions PVPsisters...is it finally over?
>>2802179>The maintenance mode game will make new chapters LeL
>>2804312how was it acquiring the fragments
>>2804614I didn't even think about it. Just did TG dailies and the fragments dropped eventually
game is done, hemorrhaging players, no one is going to sit around for 7 months as dragon knight and werewolves pwn everyone. the pve scene is completely dead as well with these abomination hybrid characters that all play the same. this moron company does not deserve anyone playing their games
>>2803274ZOS were convinced that a Oblivion and Skyrim nostolgia expansions would bring in more money than the furry targeted expansion.
Will the Sheo holiday quest be removed from the game soon or is it just the golden pursuit rewards that will disapear from the game?
>>2805338just the golden pursuit
>>2804319I think they increased the player limit in each campaign a while back
finally got scrying shit to 7time for pale order to solo for other sets on my templar
the skeever guy has a nice goatee
I think we need antagonist sheogorath back
>>2807102>Sheogorath took 40 cheese wheels>that's as many as four tens>and that's terrible>go do a delve or something to reclaim one cheese wheel per day
>new hlaalu manor in sheogorad>look inside>cheese
Cheesey sheo is fishy stick erasure
Even if ESO is on maintenance mode, the game still looks pretty good, especially the lore and story side of it. Not gonna get my hopes up, but id love to see more new zones - guess we'll see. Honestly compared to most other MMOs out there right now, it still holds up visually, i think.
>>2810527'maintenance mode' is when a game doesn't get new content but the servers are still onlinewe just got 2 questlines, favors, dynamic events, pvp stuff, etc.
>>2810588most of that are just QoL imporvements that the game required yerars ago and the "new" content is literally just 2 questlines like you said, something that is not really new.
>>2810527This is a good time for them to focus on systemic updates and reworks. We have enough fucking content.
Is there a global chat? I haven't played in nearly 5 years from what Steam says, just looking for something to dink around with including some light socialization elements. I've got one of the Elsweyr maps too to complete.
>>2812040Problem is they're doing a shit job of that too. U51 pts shows the combat team is still hopelessly out of touch or playing favorites, and the rework that should've been on that pts got pushed into next year.
>>2812134no>>2812040wrong
>>2812040>uhm ackshually, new content is not new contentdon't be a retard
Downsizing the dev them -> we get more QoL improvements.We need more of this.
Thinking about getting the game, what's the state of it currently and how likely is it to die? Can I make femboys?
>>2814064Go back to ff14 faggot no one wants you here
>>2814064Things have been going downhill since the necrom expansion (2023)>how likely is it to die?I don't think the game is in serious risk right now. If it wasn't profitable, development would have ceased long ago
>>2814471I peg the downhill at High Isle, I think necrom was better than the card game expansion.
>>2814494High Isle was the last time we got a full chapter and an entire year's worth of content. Everything that came after was smaller in scopeThe chapter itself is fine, people bitched at the time for it not being the usual end of the world daedric plot
>>2814471>Things have been going downhill since ... 2023How bad is 'downhill' in this case?
>>2814691each year they release less stuff and the quality varies a lot
>>2814691The answer will probably heavily depend on what kind of player you're asking is. What is constant though is that the game has been bleeding players since 2020, which was the skyrim expansion.So far, the game has lost almost 10 years of growth on steam in 6 years. Not good.The developers have recently changed how they will deliver content in the past ~1-2 years. Its unsure if this is because they are running out of money and are trying to maximize the resources they still have or if they are trying to be more experimental to stop the bleed and this new content delivery system allows them to do so. The developers themselves say its because the old content delivery wasn't sustainable and didn't allow them to be as experimental as they wanted. This new system does. That being said, all future content is becoming free with the new system. Plus various old DLC is becoming free. We wont know if this new system is "better" for the players content wise until 2027. Free content is free content though. Right now in 2026, it seems like they're going for a shotgun approach. They're testing all this content out trying to see what sticks, what is popular, if any of it has an impact on the bleed. They're not fully committing to any type of content so far though. Its almost like they're "teasers" for it. Like I said, probably to test. For me, the only things that have been of interest to me in 2026 have been the player experience improvements, class reworks, thieves guild questline (though could've been 100x better), high seas of tamriel event, and solo dungeons. In 2027 we're supposed to see a new trial (raid) with mount combat that will be interesting.
>>2814765>>2814779Thank you, this will be a lot to ponder over
No problem. I don't think the game is going to die anytime soon. I still peaks at 12k+ players a day, which is very successful. Out of the big names, it is the mmorpg that I'm most worried about. Especially for 2028. It struggles because they never found a way to "define" their game. For most of this games life, the main thing it has had going for it has been the elder scrolls IP. You've got games like WoW/FF14 which have things like a really well liked endgame and combat systems. Gw2 has its open world events and large scale stuff. ESO has never really had anything like that. The combat system is too controversial and I think that harmed it from gaining that endgame reputation like WoW/FF14. It doesn't really have any interesting/large scale stuff, outside of Cyrodiil. The open world events were just boring in comparison to modern Gw2. Maybe early day Gw2 it compared, but Gw2 kept expanding upon that concept leaving competitors behind, including ESO. Cyrodiil again was hamstrung by the controversial combat. They release a weird card game that was a bad decision and nobody really cared about. They did spell crafting, which ended up dying cause nobody cared about it after awhile. And another system that was held back by the combat. Spell customization felt like a major letdown and under utilized. Infinite archive ended up failing. The upcoming nowhere vault is a toss up. Hopefully it wont be another infinite archive. In my opinion, they should've invested more into open world/exploration/story telling. To leverage that TES IP more. Difficulty scaling in the open world was a great addition and a step in the right direction. But they should've invested more into these systems. How to expand upon questing, make more player choices impact. Replayability in quests. Better writing. More interesting companions (last two were meh, especially the high elf). Their tie ins with quests. Romance (Bg3 showed people love that shit). Less shit movement system for exploration. Etc
good old days
before this game gets EoS i hope the devs give vampire that werewolf rework and give it vampire lord or at least make vampire lord a skill skin.
>>2816413Agreed. To me, the vampire/werewolf aspect of this game falls under the umbrella of the story telling aspect of the game. They're a skill system that's heavily intertwined with story telling/world building. And its one of my favorite parts of the game. The amount of MMORPGs where you can be bit by either a player or NPC and turn into a werewolf. And it actually being an in depth system, not just fluff or a few skills you can use anywhere. But like with vampires, you have the whole feeding aspect. And how NPCs can become afraid of you, and you can use your vampire charm ability on them to make them like you/talk to you again. Or with werewolves and their whole transformation aspect. Those are the type of things they should've expanded upon.Like imagine if they took this system to the next level. And put in new unlockable skill lines like that where you have to choose a specific one. Like maybe you can become a cultist of a daedric prince or worshiper of a divine (can only do one at a time). And there's a whole cool aspect for each one similar to vamps/werewolves.
>>2816413Doesn't it already have vampire lord? They gave them their rework with Greymoor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQ-gtWwwDRU
>>2818624I don't care for the opinion of e-celebs
>>2818624i mean hes not wrong but i still enjoyed myself
>>2817969Could be that anon meant an always on style of transformation similar to werewolf. You could probably run a high ult generation build and really pump out a lot of transformations that could bring you close to an almost always on uptime of it.That being said, I would love for all the abilities to see a rework/touch over for the most part. Mainly in the way of being more...useful? Like you look at werewolf builds now and they're obviously running full werewolf abilities. A lot of meta vampire builds have maybe 1 or 2 vamp abilities + the scion. A lot of the abilities don't seem that good to run. Or have alternative options that would accomplish close to the same thing and aren't vamp.
I remember how ESO used to look before they splashed yellow paint everywhere
CHEESE
>>2820815
join TESOG EU guild.join TESOG discord.We will run trials and we need you.
>>2821296If this game was popular with the 4chan crowd we wouldn't have stopped doing trials
eso sheogorath has always been reddit>>2821296nobody cares about pve in this game anymore. the shitties won. making weaving irrelevant, hybridization and cross classing has made pve gay as fuck to play
selling the ordinator weapon styles at the same time as the shitty costume bundle is devilish
>>2821426tbf most of the discussion surrounding this game has been dwindling these past few years.TESOG is too dead these days for a trial it feels, though we could all potentially just use some heavy attack build since these seem retard proof and high dps these days.
>>2821881You might get ~5 anons to join for a trial but the rest of the group will have to be filled with random players
>>2821740>>2821881what happened to weaving?i haven't played for like 5 years.
>>2822392idk I use velothi ur mage
>>2822392Nothing. Technically it got nerfed in u35 but so did a bunch of other shit because they wanted to bring down the damage ceiling, so it was actually more important at the time and still relevant in conventional builds. What he's bitching about is the classes/items that have popped up over time allowing people to deal competitive damage without it.
>>2822392Turned into green lazor and two other abilities.
Who nerfed Hadran's Caravan and why?Killing innocent khajits was my hobby
>>2818624The quest was stupid and Sheogorath is pretty retarded but I liked Noth... sue me
>>2823212I liked Noth tooHopefully we will see her again in future stuff
>>2822392As others have said, you just have this small portion of players who think weaving should be the only viable way to play endgame. Not realizing it was probably doing more harm than good as its entire design is retarded. There's some builds/items that let you not rely as heavily on weaving as much. It still gives you like a 5-10% DPS buff because without it, people mentioned before threw a fit.
>>2823619IIRC eso's trial participation rate is staggeringly low compared to most other MMOs. There's definitely more reasons for that than just weaving, but I'd still wager its driven off far more players than it retained or gained.
are crafted sets still viable
>>2719188>brothel employeeYou can just say whore.
>>2823754Some are still pretty good, such as: Law of julianos, Order's wrath, Forest wraith.
Been away for a year and a half what all slutwear did they add
>>2824463A few costumes here and there in the last 3 crates
>>2824463Uh...the feathery carnival whore costume and the edgy shadow "angel" slut dress from the last crates come to mind.>>2798292Despite being anniversary crates they are pretty lame. Their most notable highlights are stupid annoying glowing mounts and the Sotha sil mask.
The sheogorath quest is definitely a textbook example of flanderization of a character but I have to admit the khajiit character was very cute. 10/10, would tear her dress on the spot and rape her daily.
should i play werewolf
>>2825287Yea. I made my first werewolf char recently and it's a fun way to play the gameOne annoying thing is that approaching any friendly NPCs (overworld) in werewolf form will give you a bounty
>check magblade pve buildDW/2H>check magsorc pve buildDW/2H>check magdk pve buildDW/2H>check magden pve buildDW/2Hwhat happened to this game? mages used to use staff/staff builds in dungeons and raids
>>2825441All weapons became stat sticks instead of being resource locked. It was a good change. You choose weapons based on utility and skills now. DW/2H is a pure single target specYou can use a bow or staff for more cleave. (which is king in raids and dungeons)
Why was Solstice an island? It was the perfect shape and size to be Soulrest.
a wod crpg but you're not locked into vampire
>>2824463you can wear underwear. it doesn't get skimpier than that.
redguards run this general
>>2825570My schizo theory is that it was originally going to be Pyandonea. You can see it if you squint; an island of elves isolated by magic weather, and a high population of friendly maormer. I think they laid down some basic groundwork, then had to scrap the idea (maybe because their staff issues wouldn't allow for enough new assets in time, or maybe a Todd veto because he wants to keep the mystery or even use it for 6) and reworked it into Solstice.
>>2825458shut the fuck up, faggot. it ruined the game
>>2828489subclasses did way more harm than hybridization
seen someone posting on reddit that a new companion is coming (nord werewolf, gender unknown)
give me the bloodmoonberries
i miss good old force pulse builds bros...
>>2828489It made the game more fun. You sound like a whiny prick. I'm willing to bet you were one of the people constantly whining about how magicka builds could only use a staff, and would swear up and down 1h rune was coming next expansion, this time, surely this time, pinky promise.Staves only was boring as fuck.
>>2829342I think that's a couple of months old. Data mine had some reference to a "wolf companion" in U52. So people are thinking its a werewolf. Makes sense with the new zone supposed to be in northern skyrim. Since its furry-bait, will probably be a dude. Since most of them are not straight. >>2828758I think both did harm for sure. It kind of comes with the territory with what they did. When you start removing barriers in skills/abilities; people min/max and find the best combo. It ends up "hurting" build variety in the higher tiers as people will only want the best builds. However, for the average player they don't give a shit. Especially in ESO where the average player doesn't seem to do PvP or go beyond normal dungeons lmao. The game was in a state of bleeding players/decay before both of the changes went live. So it wasn't the cause. Devs were probably trying to find ways to shake up the combat and get people back. I think it kind of worked since average players seem to like it.
>>2828758Oh for sureBut to be fair, hybridization was a decent idea to get out of wrobels bullshit Morrowind-Elsweyr sustain changes too. Game played like total ass during that period.
>>2830878Didn't we have those only a few months ago alongside shattered path signet?
>>2825253Aww I'm glad you like Noth too she-oh.. oh no Anon...
Anyone got an undying chaos ball build or ctr
I'm so bored I pvp regularly now
people pull 200k dps on dummies nowadays. power creep has gone too far. i remember doing vmoL/vhof with only 30k dps.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoqGJHndHeoyou now remember Alcast.
>We will fight alongside Hircine at the end of all daysI love the way Reachmen are portrayed in ESO so much. In Skyrim they just felt like caveman Bretons with barely any lore. I hope we get to see them in TES6 too
>>2832448Ye old alm mercy+trials+ozezean build
Boy, I sure wish I had a warden refresh to go with all the druid stuff in the store.... alas :(
>>2834265To be fair, they can do 200k on dummies, but still can't do color swap right in the big 26.
ASYLUM STAFF STATUS???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
IT IS IN THE VIDEOGAME!!!!!
do i need to buy all expansions to play them?
>>2834880you can play only the expansions you paid for
>>2834880No. There's a vanilla game with a large chunk of content + they've recently added in a few DLC into the base game so they're free now. Next one is the Skyrim DLC will become baseline too. Outside of those, there are DLC where you either need to purchase them stand alone, or you subscribe and you can play all DLC while subscribed.
how do i speed level scrying
>>2835473go to Artaeum and start digging spoons and books don't stop until you're level 10
haven't played in twelve (12) years, have they fixed the dogshit combat yet?
I shouldn't of catfishedNow I have a stalker
>>2722403wait there's no fucking crossplay? lol so it's just dead on PC?
>>2836699It's the other way around, consoles are dead while PC still retains a good amount of players
>>2836711Oh I thought this game was way more popular on console. Is there a separate PC launcher? 12k concurrent on steam is quite dire for an MMO if that's all of them.
>>2836717There a three launchers on PC: Steam, EGS and the Zenimax launcherSteam is definitely the most popular one by far and I don't know a single person that use EGS
>>2836572nah. its still awful.
>>2836732>Steam is definitely the most popular oneDon't the Steam and EGS versions just launch the official launcher anyway? What's the point of paying for an additional DRM step?
>>2836717I'd say its probably that on steam + another 2-3k on the other platforms would be a good safe estimate. Some people like to delude themselves into thinking the standalone launcher has more players without any proof. The game was off of steam for like 5 months of its life. The rest of the time its been on steam. No way it has more. But its not dead yet. That's still a healthy population imo. Not great, but healthy. New world is a good measuring stick. If the population on steam starts routinely dropping to average ~6k players or less; then that is a very bad sign. Because that's around the performance that caused new world to shut down. We're not there yet. These upcoming patches will be very important to turn things around. But if the trend continues to go as it is, we will hit this danger zone in about 2-3 years. Coincidentally, in 2-3 years TES6 will probably release. That may make it worse/speed things up. >>2837037People are idiots on average. There's a HUGE population of gamers who will only buy games on steam. I remember when Gw2 released on steam and I think they said they broke monthly active users records for like the past 6-7 years. There's a reason so many companies release to steam even if they have their own launchers. EA and Blizzard being two notable examples. Having to go to a game's website to buy a game or download a different launcher is a barrier of entry that many wont cross.
Do people grind dungeons in this game like WoW or is it mostly just story/questing? Is the dps/tank/healer trinity required like WoW or a meme like gw2?
>>2837250At this point everyone has the sets and most meta sets come from trials or from extremely hard dungeons (for the average person) so you'd have to find guilds or friends, randoms are rarely tolerant and willing to farm the sets.
>>2836579It's too late. It's time to give hole.
>>2837335idk what that means, I'm asking is the main pve gameloop running dungeons/raids like it is in WoW? or is it mostly solo questing
>>2818624https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxO_lgdIk4M
>>2837525buy an ad mr. e-celeb
bros should i get Shattered Paths Signet
>>2837525>100 people waiting in line to pick a lock so they can start the new questholy fucking shit, that is literally a meme from Classic WoW questing. Unreal that this game has that issue in 2026.
>>2837554it brings me great joy knowing the QC people lost their jobs after this
you now miss morrowind
BUY CROWNS
i don't want to level scrying... its so boring...
valiant rogue more like valiant cocksucker. get this shit out if here it's time for winterhold and skyrim mmkay
>>2817969>>2820471i was talking about the winged vampire lord form. hell i didn't know that blood scion was considered a vampire lord. but i'll be half way with the devs and hope we get the winged vampire lord as a skill style if the devs won't change blood scion to vampire lord. Either way vampire needs that new werewolf refresh.
>2026 and Rilis can still levitate you above the ceiling
I hate infinite archiveAll my homies hate infinite archive Worst designed content in the whole game.
rapid maneuver dismounts me bros...
>>2840193The archive is its own thing when it comes to combat. It should not be compared to normal pve or pvp content
you now miss one tamriel
>>2840311I only miss the unfucked PvP and below lvl 50 shenanigans.Yes fuck you pvp was fun.
>>2840193It could be trimmed down but it's ultimately an arena and it's fucking amazing compared to every other arena. I hope everyone involved in designing arenas has been fired.
>>2841107PVP was and has never been fun, just less unfair. Do you really think it's fun when you get steamrolled by a ball group or when half your alliance is chasing an unkillable nigger in a resource tower?Oh and don't tell me the imperial city is better than the walking simulator: cyrodiil edition, because getting ganked by some random nigger isn't fun at all.
>>2841412Ah yes and you were about to say: MUH BATTLEGROUNDSBitch, those are the worst...you get matched 90% of times with literal retards
Which daedric prince will go on vacation next?
bros is 2 maning infinite archive gay????????? i don't want to solo this instance and i don't want people to call me gay
The weekly thing is offering more rewards than usual.
>>2843088It's very gay, it's where I take all my dates to get them addicted to my dick
>>2844107>weekly thingwhat??
>>2844107>>2845425The challenges, the ones that give you tome points.
bros i need 250 transmute crystals how do i get them?????? cyrodil is dead as fug atm
>>2846969winning a battlegrounds match grants you 25 transmute crystals
>>2847088isn't that 1 per day?
>>2847094I don't knowEven if it is, you can do it on multiple characters
you now miss VMA
>>2834880yes, ignore the other posters. if you want all the content that ever was you have to buy the past chapters and dlcs or be one of those cuckolds who rent them instead through the monthy subscription. it will take them many years to release them all for free and by that time the game's going to be dead, that is if it even manages to stay alive for that long. the real question is if any of this is even worth the money. the short answer is a clear and simple no.
level scaled zones ruined every sense of progression and immersion. now everything is as dull and pointless as gw2.
THEY SHOULD HAVE COPIED WOW'S COMBAT.THEY TRIED TO INVENT THE WHEEL.ITS TOO LATE NOW.CLOWNS.
>>2847714no one does>>2847908scaled content is much better. you can play anything anytime instead of having to grind levels just to play the content you wish to>>2847983WoW fucking sucks
logged in just in time to miss the wrap up of the werewolf event, so raped
why isn't braylis a guar
>>2848924Guars don't make good transport animals
>>2849267the sturdy and spacious pack guar is a staple of commerce and daily life in morrowind. make it make sense
buy crates goyim
>>2850267next crate
>>2847714Shit is a cakewalk now
Dragons?
heavy attack chads won...they fucking won...
>>2724464>Even if Zenimax stopped making new contentWhat's stopping them, exactly? Shit like Lord of the Rings Online had been around for almost two decades, much of it as a shuffling corpse, changed hands at least twice and still manages to release new content from time to time.
>>2851221In your own homeland?
>>2839717Anon! Blood scion are not vampire lords. They are just a knock off of the real thing.
>>2850267I did buy the 25 crate pack once, never againcrown crates are a scam
>ESO+ Trial>Golden pursuit containing 20 crown crates in totaldid something happen?
>>2852553buy more crates
>>2852742Quakecon?massive player attrition?sex tape leak?admittedly, Crates are worthless.
BUY CROWN CRATES
why do we always get ESO+ trials when I don't feel like playing at all
>>2853137lately it's smack in the middle of my paid sub
Which DLC quests are the best bros?
>>2854229markarth
For those who didn't buy it, is Solstice on ESO+ now?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Q5R8QA-HDAdid our boy win???
>>2854577this guys Entire channel and life seems to revolve around doomposting and dramafarming failing games and people, seems really patheticyou'd think he'd do something more with his " freedom " from eso yet he seemed to just pivot into ranting about ashes of creation instead
>Heavy attack sorcnigger>Werewolf niggerKicked on sight from my random trials
>>2854577Only a proper lifts-her-tail costume and playable lilmothiit could save this game
>>2854242you're insane>>2854526yes, it was added to ESO+ in april>>2854577don't post e-celeb trash
another shitty heist with no house fragment ima CHIM myself
so, do nowhere keys even drop? what would I even do with it if I somehow got one.
they nerfed sorc pve because it was too strong in pvp.
really getting the itch to get back and play cyro ganker and oneshot all the tanks
>>2856906>do nowhere keys even drop?from safeboxes or TG dailiesthe easiest keys to get are from favors. you can get 6 per character>what would I even do with it if I somehow got oneright now they're useless since the nowhere vault isn't in the game yet
ESO is 30 years old
mannimarco did nothing wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJRNAC4YW7Ywhats our response pvpsisters
>>2859979"Literally who quits shitty, abandoned mode of second rate, dying MMO" Thank you for bringing this to our attention
I'm quitting ESO.
>>2855905you can buy every fragment in guild traders
>>2861369at these prices they can choke on it
Why are all the roleplaying guilds so reddit and troonified? I don't want to spend an hour making a cool Dunmer wizard or Imperial legionary just to be forced to rp with a furry who knows absolutely 0 lore and plays the game for their personal fantasies. Whats worse is that they all revolve around discord too than actually playing the game. It waters down the Elder Scrolls experience for me.
>>2861631tes in the current year might as well be a riot product. sounds like you should be playing morrowind instead
>>2861757The thing is that I came back to ESO because I got bored of my usual single player TES game routine and wanted to check on the old RP guild I was in and found it dead. So then I go on the guild finder and it just blackpilled me looking at the state of roleplaying in ESO. The only interesting/serious ones who expect that you know what the universe that the game is set has around 10 or below members. The rest is a bunch erotic slop and troonfest that ask for constant activity on discord. The normies have ruined the only fantasy RPG franchise I play.
>>2862061>nooo you need to read 50+ books to play the gamekill all lorebeards
>>2862061all good sneeds must come to an chuck
BUY CRATESUYCRATES
>>2812744>>2812708I don't give a fuck about new content. They need to revisit old content and systems that were abandoned as soon as it was put out (Thieves Guild/Dark Brotherhood/Morrowind never got expanded, Orsinium is prime candidate for a follow-up etc.) Why did we never get Morrowind Pt2 with Morag Tong as a playable faction for example?
the game died and bright throats its still mid and nerfed
Why is this game so dead? If you like Skyrim/Oblivion questing and exploration and you just want more of that, it's great. I think it's by far the best PvE MMORPG out there and I'd much rather play this than fucking World of Warcraft or Final Fantasy 14. Hell, I'd go as far to say that this is the best unmodded Elder Scrolls game since Morrowind.
>>2862953You have never seen a real dead game...
>>2863031I have, this just feels very underplayed given its IP and basically being one of the best games in the genre that isn't Guild Wars 2 or OSRS.
>>2862953combat is garbage, guild traders are terrible and dungeons and trials are a joke compared to other MMOs.quest lines are too shallow compared to modern standarts. (Witcher 3, BG3)
>>2854577>NefasQSchingchong
>>2862953>WOW >FFXIVWhy, in your opinion, is ESO better than these?. I want to read your opinion since I have never played them (and I never will because FF is tranimeslop and wow is just boring lore-wise and has no organic beast races like argonians and khajiits and instead has artificial blatant furry-bait made-up slop like pandas and watered down dragons)
>>2859979When I join cyrodiil to submit myself to torture and lvl up my veterancy and I read shit in chat like:>Ooooh poopy and his group are in chal>Aaaaaa tittystrokerxxx4425 is streaming!!>Oh shit it's xXniqqerkiller20000Xx>Hehe hey guys I just killed @Gandalfisapedo >Uuuumm @Achoo you are a traitor!!!!I always type "Didn't ask" or "Nobody cares bro" and suddenly they have a meltdown over the reality check I gave them
>old guild is thoroughly dead>Founder hasn't been on in 4 years>Using the guild bank as storage since I'm the only one left with access>Founder's account is deleted shortly after i started a joke guild with a friend, so I'm passed over for leadership>New leader hasn't been on in 3 years either
>>2862953People that just want ES questing have already done the good parts during the years long wait for 6, people that want pve or pvp are getting sick of the terrible balancing, and in general there's not much confidence left in ZOS.
>>2863823I don't ask but I do care, sieging is the only multiplayer content outside of guild wank where you actually get to know every tard on the server since players don't disappear after 10 minutes or once their stickerbook is full
>>2864653KeK fair enough
wonned the crates and thieves guild ql its now time to uninstall until the next skyrim burger
