Abbadon's SECOND black crusade edition!>Hotfix 13.2 patch notes:https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/CHAOSspace-marine-2/blogs/409-hotfix-13-2-patch-notes>Hotfix 13.1 patch notes:https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/CHAOS space-marine-2/blogs/400-hotfix-13-1-patch-notes>Update 13.0 patch notes:https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/CHAAOSspace-marine-2/blogs/395-patch-notes-13-0>June Community updatehttps://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/CHAOSspace-marine-2/blogs/420-june-community-update>Updated Year 2 Roadmap:https://i.imgur.com/p9UAyjJ.jpeg>Where to get the game:https://www.focus-entmt.com/en/games/warhammer-40000-CHAOSspace-marine-2>Lore Stuff:https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Pagehttps://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Main_Page>For jolly cooperation with your battle brothers (Can also post codes for jolly coop/PvP. Edit Squad -> Invite Menu):https://steamcommunity.com/groups/sm2general>Workaround with matchmaking (not finding players, only 2/3):Back out to the main menu and re-enter battle barge.>Workaround with matchmaking (defaults to waiting for players instead of looking for games)Queue for siege mode, leave the lobby and re-queue for operations.>Datasheet showing hidden difficulty modifiers for each difficulty (for easier damage reference):https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1kVvYgDBoAan98W3IjAM6ERdq-QfkCsaVvXKF5g_Q9sU/htmlview>Spreadsheet useful for damage calculation:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HzX5LzOD8NZyOTV-BUyL8kWoLEpt-skM/>Recommended prestige perks:https://i.imgur.com/vHSeEDt.jpeg>/Csm2g/ Dude Wall - Compilation of LOYALIST LAPDOGS:https://dudewall.github.io/dude-wall/>/Csm2g/ Phantom Links Chapter Lore:https://rentry.org/ChroniclesofPhantomLinks>Other useful links:https://pastebin.com/VZ0ryCNBPreviously on the Battle-Barge: >>2719823
>salamander power sword was already strong as fuck on PTS, but with a confusing tooltip and no flame effect despite everyone asking for that>saber's response>buff it through the roof, refuse to explain what the hell the tooltip meant, don't mention if the damage buff working on heavy attacks was intentional or not, do not add a fire effect???
OP I appreciate the larp but could you not fucking break patch notes links? Thanks!
All the P14 Heroic weapons are getting buffed, as confirmed by Mzulft on the Discord. The only one confirmed outright that wasn't a bug fix is>Nocturne's Retort-Light damage boosting stack gains from parries increased from 1 to 3-Stack total increased from 5 to 6
>>2764860What exactly do we know about the changes they're making to the heroics
>>2764860>do not add a fire effectI'm miffed by that. Like very.>>2764873Usually these are some bugs that made weapons work not the way devs intended. Pic related is heroic THammer bug fix/buff.
>>2764873>meltafistmade "more responsive," if I had to guess you can now go into your next attack faster after it discharges because previously it hovered there for like a good 2 seconds not letting you do any melee inputs after you fired it off>poleaxeapparently it had a bug where you couldn't get CHP back from it on the PTS sometimes, they fixed that, I forget if they did anything else>fire swordempower stack up by 1, from 5 to 6, parrying now provides 3 stacks at once instead of 1if it still empowers heavies then this is the most broken weapon in the gameif it only empowers lights...idk we'll see
>>2764873And the Sally's power sword changes according to the CM. But as >>2764877 mentioned we still don't know how stacks will affect heav attacks. Just imagine 5-6 stacks on a power rake..... good Emprah!
I wonder if they are ever going to use Skrillex model head for Bird boys champion. I think this one was meant to be part of voice pack vol. 2. On one hand it's good they canned it after first dlc but more customization options are always nice.
>>2764916Canning the entire thing was just moronic. People outright told them the issue wasn't the voice pack existing, it's that it was low quality as fuck, and that they'd have happily paid more for something comprehensive.The best thing Space Marine 3 can do is separate the character voices completely from missions beyond generic "activating X" lines, like divorce them entirely, create voices for every single one of the nine loyalist legions, give them 3-4 interactions with every other voice, and boom, everybody is happy. Saber has set themselves up for failure because the characters are directly verbally involved with every Operation, and that's a bajillion more lines for little gain.
>>2764916they should give us some of the heads from the campaign like archeron and the white asian
>>2764888>(apparently it was not working properly on PTS)It's so fucking funny that literally no one on their entire team even tried using it in a single game before they shipped the PTS
>>2764916CRAAAAAWLIN IIIIIIIIIIN MY SKIN
>>2764953Brother they have literally no idea how basics of their game works. For instance token system is held with spit and tissue paper right now. All because they upped the Terminus spawn for 'muh difficulty'. It all got me thinking that whoever was in charge of making that system and others (i.e. block mechanics) are either long gone or sidelined to the point of being glorified jannies.Tooltips are lying about the effects, effects often not working at all.At this point we are playing despite Saber's efforts, not because of them.
>>2764916you know he has every metalcore riff memorized
I'm new to the gamecan someone tell me if this combo actually works how I think it will>parry an Extremis or Terminus enemy>they get marked with an Auspex Scan>they now take even more damage>this parry also restores 50% of your actual Auspex Scan cooldownthat sounds really powerful, but that's assuming these actually work together
>>2765037fuck wrong image
these guys are bullet magnets. cant remember the last time i saved them
wait wtf does this mean that when you're at 30% heat or more, you won't spend any ammo when tap firing the plasma rifle and plasma pistol?I know that's not actually that strong since the tap fire shots are pretty weak
>>2765092>charged shots
>>2765128sorry I guess I'm just illieratedont know how I missed that
>>2765129>illierateFUCKilliterate
>>2764868I didn't "break" the patch note links. They were corrupted by the power of the warp.>>2764867MFW we only need eleven more CSM2 general threads to sacrifice to the ruinous powers before we get more chaos content
>>2765236>eleven more CSM2 general threadsnext time it's nurgle edition
>>2765243you got it bro!
I AM PURGING THIS FOUL THREADIN THE NAME OF THE EMPEROR
>>2764916>Canning the entire thing was just moronic.Yeah, underwhelming as that voicepack was it added some additional stuff to use.
>>2765236lollmao
>>2765236>>2764867*gasp* HE'S TRYING TO GIVE CHAOS MORE CONTENT! STOP HIM!
>>2765276brother titus, what were you doing to the coffee servitor.
>>2765037>>2765038actually could someone answer this? I haven't played tac in ages, but a free auspex every three minutes sounds pretty op
>>2765387The auspex scan on perfect parry works independently of Tac's Auspex ability. It won't reduce ability cooldown. At least I never noticed that to be the case.Try it out in the training simulator tho. Perhaps I'm wrong.
>>2765236>They were corrupted by the power of the warp.>corrupted by the power of the warp>corrupted>by the warpbrothers, i think i found the alpha legionnaire among us
>more spore mines than in korean dmz>melee'ing on stairs, slopes automatically means you will get fucked because no vatnik can code this shit apparentlyNuke Saber.
>>2765543Brambles really do need some kind of forced cap on how many can exist at once, or a way shorter lifespan.
>>2765564And fixed hitboxes, now they are bigger then the model would suggest.>Brambles really do need some kind of forced cap on how many can exist at onceI think this was the case in the past, right? They weren't as widespread as they are nowadays or my memory is playing tricks.
Spore mines are the most annoying shit ever and I'd nerf them in one of two ways>they no longer damage you, just slow you so they're still annoying but not a big deal when you're not actively fighting something>they do a set amount of damage and then get broken by you moving through them, so you can sprint through them at the cost of some of your armor/health and clear them outAs is, it's an annoying game of "find and shoot the pod hitbox but it's pointless because five more spawned while you were clearing them out"Maybe a shorter lifespan on them too
>>2765543>>2765589spore mines are the green flying shits that biovores spit out.
How do shitters even struggle on Bulwark? This guy shits on anything he can reach
>>2765620My bad for misnaming them here >>2765543 They should change their name to shit bush, honestly. Then it'd be more accurate.>>2765589I agree that nerfs are in order. Either get rid of the damage in lieu of slower movement or dramatically cap them. You get those and a biovore and suddenly nid ops aren't as peachy.Another proof that devs don't play this game.
>clear the area of nids>be on my way to the next area>a biovore materializes out of thin air in front of mewhat is this? I wish I had it recorded but it just popped before me. what kind of looney tunes world have I entered?
>>2765632Going off of what how I played him first starting out to what I see new bulwarks doing I think it's a literal skill/education issue. Just like siege mode and techpriests. Yes. He has an answer to everything melee, and some ranged, but you need to know the answer. You can't just run up to shit and spam right click and expect to get anywhere. You got to do the right attack and that's where noobs get tripped up. The bulwark shitters Ive played with either do everything with light stance powersword, or don't melee anything at all.
>>2765662I didnt realize Saber had gotten Fat Shark to help them with development
>>2765694It's true the devs don't attempt to teach players. Once you learn the ropes the game becomes very simple
>>2765828in the days of yore we would have a nice comprehensive wiki that would aggregate all the patchnotes and have guides on stuff like breakpoints, the jump pack dodge build, or block mechanics. But that is antithetical to youtube's algorithm so the only people incentivized to share this knowledge shit out low effort videos that become outdated after a month instead.
>>2765828>>2765847>It's true the devs don't attempt to teach players.Well....they did attempt, it was a pretty shit attempt tho.
anyone use the heroic power fist on assault? feel kind of weak. the -4 cleave sucks can only kill 8 minoris at a time, and it seems like the gunstrike passive doesnt work half the time. are you just suppose to goon down a major with regular attacks and try to chain executes to set up gunstrikes?
what is this?what is this area where you just run around in a room with your weapons out, but there doesnt seem to be anything to dois this a puzzle or something?
>>2766214you can fight your squadmates there. the only puzzle is there might be a lictor lurking in there somewhere
>>2766218oooh that makes more sense
When will they rework auspex, so I actually get to fight bosses?
>p1: WHAT>p2: why are there two bosses?the most dreadful words i've seen in chat in a long time.
>>2766262Lower levels? Game was on sale. We've got influx of new players.
this ground slam is decent if you also use the 50% aoe radius perk. its not 10m, its only 5m to 7.5 i guess
>>2766343Yeah but what is the actual benefit over just not spending the point on it and keeping the bigger range
>>2766343
>>2766365it still has the forward shock wave. powerfist doesn't have any good follow up after ground pound, so it would be good to do it immediately after landing, balanced fist can hit 16 targets
I just prestiged for the first time on AssaultI think I'm going to go with Duellist for that larger parry / block window
>>2766423it is good. There's a recommended prestige perk list in the op btw
>>2765037>>2765387i found a video of this happening, this is from april 12
>>2766423unyielding oath, adrenaline boost or hammer of wrath, fortitude, practiced aimunyielding oath is fucking amazing, you should spend almost no time in the air charging a pound and even still if you do that you're now immune from random sniper shots
>>2766423Unyielding Oath always goes firstFortitudeYou can pick whatever after depending on how you want to play your Assault
>>2766446>scanning three extremis (extremae?) doesn't restore your entire bar>but scanning an already scanned extremis with a parry doesjust saber things
>>2766447oh wait somehow I didnt put two and two together that 3 seconds is a long time and will last briefly after you land
>>2766440what does YMMV mean?
>>2766498YourMileageMayVary
>>2766446good lord that's strong
>>2766498your mileage may vary, so it's really up to your playstyle
>>2766447>>2766449message receivedUnyielding Oath it is>>2766503>>2766500thank you
Gamepad users what sensitivity do you use? This game has some wack stick acceleration and I'm struggling.
man clicking heads is awesome when i can pull it off but the longer the op goes, the easier it is for me to panic and waste all the bullets and cloak.
>>2766423>if you use fencing, duellist does nothing (window is already maxed out)>if you use balanced, duellist does nothing (duellist doesn't let it start earlier and it already lasts until the end of the animation)>if you use block, it does work, but it's better to not waste a perk slot on a crutch that will prevent you from getting used to the real block timing for other classestl;dr don't pick duellistOn the other hand, unyielding oath is "should be part of the base kit because assault needs it that much" tier
>three of vulcan's boys on their way to fuck shit up>I end up finding a pyreblaster canister so I can join the other two parent chapter lads in using fire weapons
>>2766714hell yeah flaming gay boys
>>2766705wise wordsI worry the extended dodge window on assault is already going to have made me stupid
>>2766705Just add prestige 5 and add two more columns and one more row so there's 40 skills totalAdd more prestige perks and buying them is permanent and switchable per loadoutsWeapon perks also need to change, I suggest a web skill system like in many modern RPGs where there are 6-10 main perks (ammo, melee damage, ranged damage, reload time, weapon cooling/venting, range, accuracy, rate of fire, specific weapon effects, specific class effects, parry/block window timings, cleave, weapon speed, etc)Weapons are now leveled up to 25 with 5 prestige perks, totalling 125 weapon perk points to spend on the skill tree as you wish. Ammo, rate of fire, accuracy, cooldown, venting, range versions will still exist but they get a headstart on specific stats depending on the versionSay a Fencing Relic weapon will have a ton of points into speed but will have no cleave and have low damage, you can now use 125 weapon perk points into pumping other stats to your liking
Brothers, I have not used the Multi-melta in a while, what build and variant is the best option?
>>2766818>buildIsn't it literally just take the perk that restores ammo if you kill like 5 enemies with it and just run it with the same "good" heavy build? The dude does not have a lot of variety.
>>2766792I too think that massive sweeping changes to the core systems of the game to fit a vision I specifically have of what the game could be would fix itHowever, personally I think my vision is better than your vision
>>2766823I meant the gun build, not so much the marine perks
>>2766549p-please resbond...
got my butt kicked with the power fist. its too slow fishing for big charged attacks with all the garbage that gets thrown at you. you have a red thrown at you every second, so you have to roll slop until you get a good opening. the heroic is actually decent because it feels like you get to play the game and dish out some damage before a red comes your way
>>2766959If red is coming your way then just wings of flame dodge and get the charge back. The other two signature perks for Assault are fucking worthless.
>>2766877there's like 1 guy here who can help and it's not me
>>2766993yeah then you start charging and another one comes and over and over again. plus i am finding that if you actually do land a charged attack, half the time the majoris will actually do a dodge which they seem to have the same i frames as the player.
Gimme the green cape already Saber, none of the existing options match.
>>2765010>going for the second gunstrike instead of the execute
>>2767138>holstered weaponsGod I fucking hate saber for not only removing this functionality but making it so cosmetic mods wouldn't work online so the mod that did it for them became invalid.
>>2767138I respect the mantis warrior drip
>>2767261wait what?there used to be holstered weapons?
Touching bolter tips in the elevator
>>2767484
>>2767486uma spottedhttps://youtu.be/qxtnwLkpcHIalso this is a neat way to do an ammo economy perk>incentivizes you to shoot as many enemies as possible>do I try to shoot as many minoris enemies as possible or do I focus on the big guy>if you fire every shot from a 30 round mag and hit 30 targets (possibly more if you have penetration) you can get 15 rounds backand unlike Magazine Restoration it doesnt rely on you getting to low health (a skill issue)that's neat
>>2767494Yeah, Reloaded Restoration is good, but it's only really good on the Damage Stalker Bolter on Tactical.>But ammo restore perkLet me explain. RR gives you ammo back for each thing you hit with the pull of the trigger. 50% rounding up. So, with the damage spec bolter with RR and Magazine expansion you get 14 shots. Shooting a Majoris dead takes 6-7, so without any misses you just killed a majoris and have 4 bolts banked. Tac's ammo restore perk tops you up, so you can spend the other half of the mag killing another majoris, reload, and max out your ammo. You can just shoot everything with the Stalker Bolter the entire mission. It's fun as fuck.Magazine Restoration is pretty okay on the carbines especially if you run the perk earlier in the tree that restores 10% of your HP after killing 7 things because not only does it frequently heal you above 30% you can loop getting mags back with it.
>>2767517>RR gives you ammo back for each thing you hit with the pull of the triggerwait WHATyou're telling me that it can proc off the SAME TARGET multiple times per magazinewhat the hell that's crazy good
people who dont play assault are missing out on kino
Imagine if you had to unlock cosmetics for each loadour
>>2767494What gun is this?
>>2767541Yes! This is why it's really good for the Stalker and kinda meh for the Wrapped Instigator. The important bit is actually landing your shots, but in my testing Stalker RR is very consistent but the Heroic Instigator is not only incredibly inconsistent I've shot twice through hordes of gaunts and only gotten two bolts back.
>>2767659Either the Stalker Bolter, Instigator Bolt Carbine, or Bolt Sniper Rifle. Those are the guns that have it, though as I said I'd only ever run it on the Stalker. Bolt Sniper Rifle sucks outside of the Heroic, and the Heroic shuts it off, so....
Man I've tried playing a couple games today and regardless of if they're low level, max prestige, pc or console everyone has been the most inconsiderate and incompetent niggers I've seen in a while. What gives? The final nail in the coffin after all the execute stealing and all the resource hoarding was the low iq tactical scanning 2 warriors on the floor next to a neurothrope, and not the neurothrope.
>>2767888Either play with friends only or go in expecting slop and don't give a shit
>>2767888Post codes if you can't beat shit with randomsExecute spam is part of the game, it's a Pavlovian response and free invulnerability, armour tab heal, cHP healEvery random for themselves
Accuracy heavy bolter fucks
ridiculous how long it takes to level up guns
>>2764945I loved this scene. Everyones so autistic in this game it's somewhat endearing.>tries to "sneakily" peek at Titus' chains by staring at it directly as Titus looks at him>white asian turns around and loudly proclaims>"brother, have you noticed Titus has been in the deathwatch">failed salamander, being about 9% less autistic mentions it is rude to just say that>d00d he was alive for a century>titus, also being equally as autistic doesn't know how to handle confrontation and broods like a fucking jackass until directly spoken to
>>2765037Cute seal.
>>2765694Isn't light stance better in almost every case unless you're being bogged by minoris or does the heavy stance also have like a higher stagger damage applied to it as well?When I tried it in the battlesim you get the same damage per swing so light stance turned out to be better DPSand then you just use block sword, do the parry explosion and hit someone with the shield stacks
>>2768156Gadriel is from Chogoris, not from Calth like Chairon.
>>2767138Holy crap I met a random mantis warrior guy the other day. You two might be the only dude repping mantis warriors everyone else I've seen has been bla k templars, raven guards or just gold marines.
My Tech Marine is a Salamander
>>2767246even if he did he still had the helbrute + soul raper at the back + another meatball. the dude who made the token system has to be laughing his ass off rn with how fucked it is.
why the fuck does no one play lethal. ruthless doesnt give enough xp and im not throwing on absolute.
>>2768543Post code if you can't beat Absolute
>>2768543post a code, I'll help you out
>>2768543I can't carry for shit but we can play and die in style together
I'll post a code, running absolutes. oce region.
>>2768623forgot the code part of the code posting. tragic!6DWNK
>>27686242/3
nids steakhouse hmmm
>>2768624joining in spirit
>>2768657well the new code is E479B if you feel like being a man and joining for realsies
>can't equip a cape and front cloth/belts at the same timeffs, it's never easy with these goddamn vatniks is it.
>>2768675the indians they outsource to don't know how to program it
>>2768661I have lost my pc
>>2768678that would explain why there are only 4 armor set slots and 12 pattern ones. they start doing one thing and don't finish it. either they want to do AAA game or not, make up your minds.
gg easiest game of my life
Leeeets gooooo
>>2768760it's gonna be so fucking broken, isn't it?
>>2768769>brokenIt will be fixed according to russian gamedev "standards"
>>2768760What happened to good ol' twitter news posts or steam community hub? Why does everything have to go through trannycord now?
>>2768790because they can't ban you from viewing news posts.
>can't change the symbols on Salamander Champion shouldersWhat the fuck
>>2768797Why would they ban me though? I wouldn't call them inbred niggers for posting a piece of news (most of the time)
>>2768760>israeli flag, trans flagcringe>pregnant manthese are my people
>>2768809No toon can resist the old shave and a haircut trick. One day you forget yourself and reveal your powerlevel and lo and behold, mods are after you.
>>2768933>the year is 2040>completely unprompted, a discord moderator says "Despite" and nothing else>I reply with "making up only 13% of the population...">I am immediately blacklisted, or as it is now called badlisted, from all video game community discords in perpetuity
>>2768189I'm a techie main, not a bulwark main so please take any advice I give with a grain of salt, but it's not just about dps, it's also about spread. Yes sometimes you want to focus all your effort on one target but you might also want to spread out your stuff. Yeah bogged down by minoris is the obvious example, but there's nothing preventing you from doing it to majoris or even extremis.Try testing again, but this time do it with a group of melee tyranid warriors close together. You should factor the total damage for all models into your little calculation
>>2768816Based fujoshi
>imperial fist tactical>opens inferno by throwing not one, but two grenades into the first gaunt school
>>2769095>schooli get pack might be a bit off but come on there has to be a better group term than schooli'd call them a troop before a school
>>2769095He’s secure stockpile maxxing
>>2769095This is how it's done, yes. There's a reason in manifest all those grenades in your pockets, boy. Now go be a menace.
>Power Sword>Power Fist>Thunder Hammer>Stalker>Combi-Flamer>Melta RifleWhat you guys grabbing first, aside from the power sword obviously?
>>2769185I'll probably wait and see what people say about them before i get suckered into buying a shit one.
>>2769185I'm taking all of them and test at my own pace.
How do I not suck at Tactical? He seems super strong on paper but he can get easily deleted by fuckload of ranged shit (combined with melee).
>>2769222You got infinite grenades and infinite ammo. Just fucking kill them dude. Also nice trips.
>>2769222Kill them before they kill you. Emperor's Vengeance and Secure Stockpile are two pillars of the class. Also don't forget your Auspex.
>>2769185>lizard meltaonly if it does a fuckton more damage now>poleaxedepends entirely on if the power sword got fixed to only affect light attacks and as a result isn't as good>auspex gunI don't care about the rest. The smg flamer might matter to vanguard but I don't care about vanguard.
>>2769222Never waste your Auspex on melee majoris and minoris mobs, unless you don't trust yourself or your team to deal with a pack of spawns.Spend it on Warriors with Devourers/Extremis/Terminus enemies.Know that you have no mobility or defense aside from killing the enemy before it can deal damage to you. Go all in to eliminate the threat or get the fuck out of dodge, reposition, and then assess the situation to go all in again.
I swear to god one more "helpful" "dps" tac with equipment perk and the heroic fucking hbr and I gonna start queueing lobbies as tac and then switch to assault.
>>2769222ranged enemies cant hit you if you move a little bit
>>2769304I like stagger locking with the plasma against Chaos but I've played with the Stalker-bolt since release and the HBR + Kraken rounds finally feeling good to play two patches ago (read: 7 months ago) means it was time to take a break and just spray and pray. Flamer is still fun too, I just can't trivialize bosses on Absolute anymore.You'll never catch me running Transhuman Physiology unless there's some ungodly stratagem conditions combo'd together.
>>2769225>>2769230>Kill them till they're deadWell yeah. That's what I strive towards. Still thanks for encouragement!>>2769241>Go all in to eliminate the threat or get the fuck out of dodge, reposition, and then assess the situation to go all in again.I think that's my main issue. More often I charge head on smaller, medium groups only to lose sight of larger crap at hand, which leads me to getting downed. I realize I'm no bulwark but it's irritating at times I gotta roll around like it's a soulslop game - but I know that comes with the class. I appreciate the post tho Brother!Also is the heroic HBR + heroic plasma better overall for dealing with Extremis/Terminus? Or Stalker Bolter with Heroic Heavy bolter is a better all-rounder setup (going yolo on bolter perks)?
>>2769327>>Kill them till they're deadAlso don't get hit
>>2769327Auspex will generally making you shred bosses but bolt weapons have the benefit of headshot bonuses so Auspex + Perfect Parry damage vulnerability + Headshots definitely feels incredibly good shaving down a boss HP bar.Open up with an auspex + heroic plasma shot the dump with the headshots but the bigger problem is usually dealing with the trash mobs that spawn with the bossGenerally speaking I don't take plasma to Tyranid missions to get better mileage on headshots. HBR/Stalker/Flamer for Tyranids and Chaos gets the plasma to get stagger locking because sniping their heads is too much of a hassle.
I miss space marine 1 and its siege (exterminatus) mode
>stand next to a 150 ping guy>miss all parries>diethanks obama
>>2769362>trash mobs that spawn with the bossI yearn for the days that didn't happen and it was just the boss with no bullshit flying around it.
>>2769563>Mob wave on boss spawn.>It's either 2× Extremis, usually Lictor+Zoanthrope.>Or more warriors than the god emperor wants.>Handle it and you still nees to deal with the same thing happening at 50%.>Someone bursting the Carnifex kills the run immediately.
Aren't you guys excited for the ultra grind Dmitry concocted for us tomorrow? Especially the PvP ones. Yay...
>>2769035KEK
Russians are miserable and spiteful creatures. No wonders they love 40k so much. Their reality is basically that, without the cool stuff.
>>2769185I'm going to use cheat engine to get them all and probably use none of them
>>2769607I think togas and tabards are shit
>>2769615can you stop
>>2769607I don't really care about any of these
>>2769572If you can't handle some fucking nid warriors in melee, you don't belong in absolute
>>2769607I didn't really factor tabards into my marines fashion so I don't really care.
>>2769607I may do them once retarded russkies roll back on that bottom-of-the-barrel retard move. As it is, I don't give a shit about one recolored tabard and other ones already in the game.This is less than lazy on their part. And fucking vile as well.
>>2769607Unironically yes. It'll be neat to see the influx of guys with the PvE-only cosmetics in PvP lobbies as they grind out their ordeals. They might even have fun. I know I will.
>>2769656When they stop making their customers miserable
>>2769849pull yourself together
>>2769859
>>2769607whoever came up with idea to add pvp challenges should be hanged by the balls or tits on a dry branch over a vat of acid
Why would I play pvp from a hordeslop dev when it’s hit or miss if the good studios can even get it right these days?
>>2769607>PvPI will never unlock those
>>2769607I'm looking forward to playing Assault in Absolute like a piece of shit
>>2769866Could we croundfund this?
>>2770125*croudfund
>>2770131anon are you having a stroke
>>2770138nah just too many beers
>>2769607>fucking PvP ordealsOf all the possibilities this was the one they thought will sell this patch? Is there a limit to Saber's idiocy?
I dedicate this to our resident Raven Guard Brother. https://streamable.com/b3nynpMay he always find his sustenance in the midst of battle.
>>2770265thropeso moist and delicious
>>2770265They often say do not feed the birb. It's because the birb can feed himself! Kek, nice one brother.
Preload in 8-9 hours Brothers! Can't wait to find out what the latest bugs are!
>>2769607>>2770161It's always been in the roadmap. Why do you trannies always react with surprise to things they told you about?
>>2770364>PvP StratagemsHave we heard anything about these yet? I don't recall them being on the test server. I wonder how much of a pain it'll be to get your daily/weekly accolades in PvP, or if they've even implemented them.
>>2770364Anon, can you even read? When it says 'pvp stratagems' it means those are means to earn doritos. Like getting the currency through wave 15 siege and operations stratagems. So 'new rewards' mean nothing else than more shit to buy in the doritos store. How do you infer stratagems in the roadmap are pvp challenges?Unless you're making the argument vatniks can't into english in which case I agree.
>>2770364>stratagems are ordeals nowok then
>>2770364>It's always been in the roadmap.pic not related right?
>>2770161>Is there a limit to Saber's idiocy?Russians are stupid and evil. No, there is not a limit.
>>2767659Im the anon that posted itit was one of the scoped bolters for Vanguard
>>2770387Actually looking at the updated roadmap it looks like they removed any mention of PvP stratagems so it seems like we probably won't get them :(
>>2770364>redacted champion pack>all this missing contentYou're giving Saber run for their money posting half a year old pic. This is the last update for BP they posted.
>>2767517when you say Damage Stalker Bolter, do you specifically mean this Relic that boosts damage more than the others?I dunno, the one that boosts mag size seems bettter no? then you'd get more mileage out of Emperor's Vengeance (since it gives back 1 mag, regardless of mag size)
>>2770364Brother Retardius, check in with the Apothecary immediately. You're rambling once again and you're scaring the serfs.
>>2770456Since you have essentially unlimited ammo, there's no reason to worry about ammo count over damage
Remember, no community update this month because we're getting Patch 14 instead.
>>2770265beautiful
>>2770387>>2770432They were in the PTS
someone explain the grenade launcher utility to me. you just swap to gl and shoot the enemy if you get hit?
>>2770563Oh rad, that's good to hear. Thanks Anon
>>2770600I never found it to be useful in any way. HBR does enough damage on its own on Tactical, which gets free grenades (not grenade launcher grenades though lol) anyway, and Techmarine doesn't have any way to regen them either. They don't do that much damage, and the Heroic HBR has worse stats than the Relic version, so I have no clue.
>>2770600It does big damage and you can spam the shit out of it in siege. It rapes clumps and does damage similar to a charged HPI shot with the right build, but hits higher dps because lol no charge. It also is great for chp because that’s all based off damage and it does a ton fast
How long until the update? Are we getting the update + new weeklies? Did they finally reset the weeklies to a proper day?
>>2770600Big booms that you get back from ammo boxes. Fantastic in siege, due to ammo boxes spawning around the map like candy and the fact that you can buy them. Less great in ops, where ammo boxes aren't guaranteed. Tactical loves it regardless though, due to an interaction with his Kraken Penetrator Rounds perk. That perk adds an extra 50% damage to bolt weapons' non-headshot damage. The way the perk's coded, so long as you have a bolt weapon out and it's not in grenade launcher mode, all weapon-based non-headshot damage gets the 50% damage boost. This means that you can>Swap to GL mode (deactivates Kraken perk)>Fire your GL>Quikcly swap back out of GL mode (reactivates Kraken perk)>Grenade explodes; it's a weapon-based non-headshot and you have your bolt weapon out, so it deals 50% more damageAs a result, for tactical, heroic HBR is a super efficient way to delete packs of majoris. This same interaction works with the heroic plasma pistol: so long as you swap back to your bolt weapon before it lands, it deals 50% more damage, which is just massive on that weapon. It's no coincidence that heroic HBR/heroic plasma pistol is probably the most popular build on tac right now.
>>2770600Even picking up a single semen slurping ammo box returns your nades
>>2770529makes sensethe headshot chaining prestige as well as the all the headshot boosts from the weapon must be mandatory I take it
>>2770456Use the Damage Stalker, go bottom build until the last pip and get Armor on headshot kill. With Tactical's infinite ammo perk and Reloaded Restoration you effectively have infinite ammo and can just shoot it all game.>But headshot damage perksEver since they changed how headshot damage is calculated most of the headshot damage perks lost fucktons of value and the damage stalker already does 3.4x. You don't hit any better breakpoints by adding a couple extra decimals and RR adds way more damage than those perks ever could.
>>2770646>How long until the update?Around 10 hours
>>2769185Combi-Flamer because Vanguard needs better primariesPower Sword, basically another Argent Edge and you don't need to engage in its meme Block-like mechanics if you don't want to; it's stronger than the regular Relic Fencing power swordLast blue doritos should go to armour parts if there are any worth redeeming and if there are none the last spot could be anythingIf they fixed the Stalker bolter then it's the go-to third pick since Sniper could spam the shit out of itPower Fist with melta is a fucking meme while someone good at using the Heavy needs to test out the Multimelta if the long beam is good enough with no increase in damage
>>2770900Deathwatch arm should be worth buying. Chests feel a little low effort. Melta heroic is the rifle, not the multi, but I don’t doubt they’ll do one for heavy soon that’s basically the same mechanically
>>2770914Saber is retarded, they could have used the Melta rifle as a testbed for 2 firing modes (shotgun laser blast or the actual long beam that fucks up armor)
What should I buy for my first heroic? I like playing Tact
>>2770940argent edge
>>>/v/744172160
I reinstalled Dawn of War 3 because i figured out it could not be THAT bad.Holy shit, somehow worse than i remember. The whole game is good to the trash. Nothing is right. Somehow DoW 1 looks better. The animations are trash. The gameplay is trash. The lore is trash. The UI is trash. Jesus fucking christ.
Darktide's FPS has been tanking for me this past week, I hope SM2 isn't too bad after the new patch.
do the effects of weapon perks apply all the time, regardless of what weapon you're using (unless specified otherwise) ?like this surely means if I kill 7 enemies with my melee weapon, this perk from my heavy bolt pistol still applies?
>>2771310No, that would be retarded.
>>2771238>DoW 1 looks betterYou are clearly mentally ill, and your opinion is safely discarded.Imagine being so fucking biased that you think a game a decade older looks better.
>>2771396Technically ? Of course not, you fucking retard. But the art style of the first game was good enough that i can still play it today without being bothered by how dated it is.The third game has the style of a cheap phone game.
>>2771413>retarded buzzwords to try and save face after getting called out on his retardationNot interested
>>2771416Did you work on the game or something, you gigantic cocksucker?
Ground pound and shield bash are the only fun melee buildsEverything else is gay
>>2771505Block Chainsword is fun.Especially just nuking a boss's healthbar
>>2771505>ground pound over jump dash at this pointhttps://youtube.com/shorts/DGl5VBZ0bLs
>>2771505Ground pound gets you killed, the only way to play Assault today is mastering jump pack dodge spam
Also if your ground pound doesn't automatically kill a Majoris you're playing Assault wrong, if they're in execute range by the time you ground pound check your perks because your build is all wrong
blame the gopniks for the state of many "builds"
>>2770563Cool. How many req points do they give out? I hope it's more than 175 standard ones.
>>2771663Are you implying that heavy shouldn’t have more perks for his melee than for his guns?
>>2771653>check your perksthere's only a handful of perks bro just post your groundpound buildI assume it's all the +dmg at the cost of radius/etc
>>2771710No, he should have all those melee perks. But he also should have boltstorm gauntlets as a weapon option.
>>2769544>see whip comint at me off screen>hit block>I get dragged over because it was a pull directed at the guy next to meAiiieeeE
>>2771753That's too cool and too difficult for a vatnik to "optimize".
>>2771753>dual powerfist >on a class that can have +130% melee damage at neutralI still think a perk rework would probably be in order
How many more hours until the update?
Patch fucking when?
Boltstorm players just want to LARP as Calgar
>>2770265haha, received!
>>2771787not really live action isn’t it
>>2771787I already suffer from ultra depression, I don't need to take the larp further.
>>2771785In either one hour or in two
>>2771784>>2771785"few hours" according to a discord troon
>>2771830>no new Operation>no new weekly
>>2765576In the past there were less enemies, which means less barbed stranglers, which means less brambles.
>>2771848But you get pic related anon!
>>2771848we updatin mufukaaaaaaas
im updating i guess. so which new heroic was good?
>>2771890We don't know, since they were all over the place with bugs and there were some balance changes promised to help the bad onesIf they did straight up buff the power sword while also making it not bugged, it'll be god-tier though
>>2771890If heavy attacks on heroic power sword were left in then this is easily one of the best if not THE best melee in the game.
>This is a small intermediate update to the wargear system. >We are adding a 3rd Wargear slot to some classes so tabards and capes could be equipped at the same time. >This is why some tabards were removed from some chest pieces in this patch in preparation to be moved to a separate slot. >With Patch 15 you will be able to equip everything together.>In addition to that, with the next update robes and tabards are coming to Vanguard and Heavy.>Capes for Bulwark are also in the works, however it will take a bit more time (not in Patch 15), since robes need to be removed from chest pieces first.>Oh and "Something we should have done a long time ago" customization feature also coming in Patch 15 :)Sheeeeeeeeeeeit
notes up?
>>2771890>>2771893>>2771895Nevermind, guttedPatch notes here: https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/428-%E2%80%8Bpatch-notes-14-0
>We understand that a lot of you wanted it to be a burning blade, but only Guilliman gets to wield one.lmao get fucked Cuckmanders
Patch notes are up Brothas:https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/428-%E2%80%8Bpatch-notes-14-0
>This patch is very light on perk changes, but big promise rework is coming for Tactical class with the next update.Wait, huh? Have they mentioned this before? MY TACT
>This patch is very light on perk changes, but big promise rework is coming for Tactical class with the next update.Kill gopniggers
sounds good to me
Spasiba saber
>>2771918touch grass incel
>>2771921no u
>Scarab Occult Terminator Sorcerer:>AI Director: Reinforcement waves no longer include Ranged Scarab Occult Terminators>AI Director: Reinforcement waves will have smaller chances of having Lesser Sorcerors
>>2771921Joke's on you, I'm sitting in my garden sipping fine whiskey. Is good.
so... they made half the things bad about siege worse...? is there an upside I'm missing?
>dark angel champion robes not available for tactical>BT tabard is, and it's even recolourableFucking saber manAlso>heroic melta damage increased by 10%! wow what's the bet that that improves none of its break points and leaves it still DOA
content just dropped and not a single person joined my normal strat. i am so mad at this game. plus it forgot to give me my 10 stimms
>>2771918Is there a way to learn this power?
The heroic bolt pistol is really strong now, doing the same gunstrike damage as the firepower heavy bolt pistol
>raptors pauldrons are useless because you cannot recolor the green cloth that covers themHa Ha Sweet
>>2771938>Techpriest effectiveness has been greatly reduced We knew this day was coming boys. I hope you got what you wanted out of siege before then
>>2771950And the chestplate has the double headed aquila instead of the skull and wings too
>>2771938Pretty horrid update, the cosmetic additions aren't even very good. If this update had been replaced by a few community events that added just the cosmetics and half the heroics, the game would've genuinely been in a better state. Now instead we have to cheat in accolade requirements, deal with siege being worse, and possibly get bodied by the new chaos terminus (though hopefully all those changes amount to it being a fair fight now)
Can someone confirm if there's an input delay with gunstrike? It feels like ass on my end
>>2771950Sorry, technical limitations. Wait for our talented team of artists to make new pauldrons with a different color of cloth!
>>2771945Saber is obsessed with "10%"
>>2771977To be fair, the bolt pistol is finally pretty good nowadaysCan't wait for the accumulative +10% buffs to let me use a lore-accurate meltagun in about a year
>asian man in arid environment captioned "it's all so tiresome"
>>2771931I don't think anyone would complain if they just removed Soulreaper Terminators entirely since they apparently refuse to rework them to make them less bullshit.
>plasma boost and versatility still remain active after swapping to primary>these also stack with remote threat (20% damage at over 25m) kek, have fun with this info
>>2771977Percentages are hard for people so small buffs are hailed as second coming. For instance heroic melta deals 16 damage so if they buffed it by 10% that's 16*1.1 which gives us 17.6 damage. That's whopping 1.6 increase in damage. Wow! I dunno why they're afraid of bigger buffs when they can hotfix them if needed.Obviously damage depends on a weapon but with so much crap thrown at players many guns could be buffed by 30% and the situation maybe would've been better.
>>2771987The fact that there are multiple things that the devs don't have any intent of improving unless forced at gunpoint, and that if removed entirely would just make the game overall better, is insane
>>2771994Headclicking is a bigger issue only solved by guns like stalker bolter rifle. Every bolter gun should have its damage upped by 50% at least - so kraken rounds for everybody.
>>2772009Speaking of Kraken Rounds, do people pair their bolters with a HBP to match or go with a plasma instead?
>patch "buffs" and fixes heroic weapons>haha no flaming sword for you!>what raptor cosmetic pack? it's just sniper armor assets reused>pvp focused ordeals>siege points economy fuckedQuality, Saber. Quality.
>>2772026My favorite part is that the backpack is actually the first backpack you unlock but without the purity seal
>>2772022HBP got 15%(!) buff so if you factor in Kraken Rounds you can get it to the point of actual usability. Just remember to land those headshots. Plasma is always good for chaos because it's more difficult to pop the heads. That's just me tho.
>>2771947i realized no one joined because everyone was busy making their salamander
>>2772026>"tactical" >Its leather belts and straps
>>2769236oof...please tell me it's at least good...it'd be so stupid if it's just worse than the light attacks fist by virtue of the empowered lights not being active 24/7...
is this why no one could get it to activate on PTS? we were all aiming for the head? are you shitting me?you have to waste 4 bullets just turning the damn thing on, and then you only get 4 to use on headshots before you reload, and then the goddamn effect wears off
>8:30pm in Australia>join PvP match, 160 pingWell that's actually better than usual but it's still fucking atrocious. What were these niggers thinking adding in PvP ordeals when there are entire regions without a consistent PvP playerbase?
>>2772060>hit bodyshots to do more headshot damageOne of those retards must have been playing Destiny.
>>2772061>he thinks the problem is regional matchmaking and his region being deadlol, no, their PvP matchmaking just puts you wherever the hell, it doesn't careyou can have one match with perfectly fine ping and then the next you're on the hong kong servers for no fucking reasonthe only good fix they made was reshuffling the teams
you can make a cool templar brethren assault now, i guess
>>2772055Surprisingly it's still good I think? This is running light attack into 4 light attack string on the sword, top being without the stacks and bottom being with max stacks (neither has the parry damage bonus included). 2.5-ish times damage makes it pretty significant I think, parry -> gun strike -> running attack incapacitated a fresh whip warrior.Still not sure if it's good or not but it's not just dead despite the >light attacks meme
>>2772063>lol, no, their PvP matchmaking just puts you wherever the hell, it doesn't careGreat so it's fucking Soulbornering bullshit again.Fuck my prison colony life.
>terminator sorcerer shows up>entire field becomes a mess of attacks between his beams, bubbles, and the spawn and rubrics that are everywherepredictableAlso, chaos has synaptic feedback now. Killed a spearman and watched the cultists in the vicinity get destroyed by the power of the execution
>>2772100>Also, chaos has synaptic feedback now. Killed a spearman and watched the cultists in the vicinity get destroyed by the power of the executionThat was a thing last patch, too. Sturm did a video on it.
did they add a separate customization slot for purity seals on every armor piece yet?
>>2772075how did you even get these numbers, the thing isn't even activating for me
is the melta power fist any good? I can't launch the game right now and check for myself.
>>2772169nevermind, I somehow had xenophase blade equipped despite clicking directly on the salamander sword, okay then
>>2771907NEED THIS TESTED IMMEDIATLYDoes this work with the Vital Data class perk for tactical?if that's the case then the Stalker Bolt Rifle just became an even more defacto best choice for Tactical
>>2771947I just did it with some friends and it only gave the host the stimms.
>inferno, testing new heroics>wave warning sounds off>other teammate and I proceed forward in the map>third teammate marks "defend area" and begins spamming pings>move on without him, assuming he'll just follow when he realizes he's being retarded>he doesn't>he dies alone several hundred yards back in the map because apparently he thinks you're not allowed to progress while a wave is goingthis isn't the first time I've had teammates stop in their tracks during a wave and demand we all hold positionwhat retarded fucking youtuber is telling them to do this?
Boy that was fast.
Can a terminus spawn during the gate segment in purgation?
this patch doesn't make sm2 worth playing again, see you patch 15 assuming that's judiciar and 2h power sword
>this patch doesn't make sm2 worth playing againindeed, too much time wasted on what could've been better content (eg. raptors pack)>see you patch 15 assuming that's judiciar and 2h power swordbrother that's at best end of the year patch or even after new year's
kekking at the damage control the cm is running to defend the sheer incompetence of devs and lack of QA team
>>2772288personally im laughing my lmao off
something aint right with this patch bruddas
So the new fist, its pointless garbage right? Like the Fist is already godlike at AoE why did you add an ability that was AoE focused? Retarded. It should be (as it would be in lore) a powerful single target shot, especially if this could be used at some basic level of range so you can hit neuros.
>>2772209>new CT with ordeal unlockerThank FUCK.
>All six weapons suckWell fuck this
>>2772373Wrong, axe is great.
>AI Director: Reinforcement waves no longer include Ranged Scarab Occult Terminators for the Scarab Occult SorcererWow, what an actual sensible decision>>2772240There are 3 spawn points before the gate section proper
So the new heroic power sword being able to buff its power rakes/whirls is no longer possible right?
>>2772307Apparently the bufffed the damage and responsivness of the heroic fist but I'm not going to buy it to test it out just yet
They've made a weird change to the Lamenters decal but I guess it works out.>Color 1 handles the white checkers>Color 2 handles the circle surrounding the heart>Color 3 handles the heart>The black that would go in tandem with the checkers is now dictated by your shoulder color
>>2772407Another example. That first one was a blank to show how more freeform it became.
>>2772395>2x stacks and fast charge>200 damage>2x stacks and max charge >576 (if full contact)Its mid at fucking best.
>>2772411>Gets x2 stacks like it's going out of styleDecent damage, massive stagger and constant armor regen. It's the safest block weapon.
>???????????Bodyshots? What?
>>2772412>Fist once>Same effect with 0 set up Its mid at fucking best.
>>2772407That's actually fucking terrible. The old way allowed the yellow to show through in the spots where they was battle damage but now you're going to have black smears and pockmarks in the white and red sections.
>>2772419>10% damage auspex zoneInsane.
Oh, okay. Everybody has a Raptors icon for the knee now, no DLC required.
>>2772442Wait a minute, that's a fucking Mentors icon they've used on the knee, not Raptors.>SABER
>>2772442>>2772444Fucking LMAO
>cant recolor any of the robes except BT champ>DA champ robes not availableYarp
Axe is basically the same damage as block TH but the animation is longer.
>>2772396Just had a carny spawn right at the gate. Later on, a sorcerer termy spawned in the water area leading to the first rock elevator (also not possible) and we had a host migration and he despawned
>devs initially wanted heroic power sword to have and apply burning effect>decided to axe it because reasons not due to gays workshop this timeThey have a hen that lays golden eggs and they've almost finished choking it to death with one stupid decision after another. If they had Retard Dev of the Year award Saber would be up there in line to receive it.
>The assault in particular cannot equip the new Salamanders capeWhat the fuck, does ANYTHING fucking work in this patch?
>>2771938There's no more point playing siege mode againNewfags will just dip after wave 5
>>2772442>>2772444Yeah they've got this wrong, typical vatniks.
>>2769607>>2769746>>2769790>>2769866>>2769912>>2770161>>2770364You can finish them in private mode allegedly.
Salamander sword would be alright if melee CHP recovery existed.
>>2772490I appreciate the tip Brother but I already completed it >>2772209I shall never touch PvP in this game.
>Hold off on buying the Sniper Salamander's champ skin because I think it doesn't fit him at all>But do want it because it comes with a characteristic cape>Heavy Salamanders champ announced>Decide to buy that instead since it not only fits the class but also because it comes with a cape so I won't need to double dip on capes>>2772470 happensHow the fuck are they doing this? How the fuck did they pinpoint the one class I wanted to put the new cape on and say "nah nigga" to it?
>>2772407they fucked up the cool washed out look when you selected no color, didn't they.
>>2772521
>>2772499At least you can equip mk6 grieves on assault now.
>>2772533But is this a decision or just another bug? To just exclude the assault in particular from using the Salamanders champ 2's cape seems arbitrary as fuck unless this was what happened in the PTS too and I simply never asked.
>Increased max stacks from 5 to 6.>Increased number of stacks you gain per perfect parry from 1 to 3.So they... decreased the number of stacks from 5 to 2? Who the fuck counts things like that
>>2767138I'd just like to report back that they gave me the green cape but somehow/for some reason removed the paint pattern to have the yellow grille on Straban's re-breather. Saber giveth, and they taketh away I guess.
>>2772555retard
>>2770647>Fixed a bug with Tactical’s "Kraken Penetration Rounds" class perk affecting projectile weapons (grenade launchers) when switching to a bolt weapon as they fly.Ah well, it lasted two patches.
The new boss is so dogshit
>>2772559Ok I understand the americas are already awake so let me explain this for you: if you get 3 burgers every time you recite the pledge of allegiance but you can hold no more than 6 burgers at the time that means you can only recite the pledge of allegiance TWICE before maxing out, as opposed to FIVE times before the patch
>>2772490Disregard this.Private actually doesn't work for the pvp kill ordeals.
>>2772209>>2772359I just used Cheat Engine to unlock everything, I suggest everyone does the same.The only thing it does not unlock are actual weapon skins since you actually have to win PvP matches with said specific weapon but the other colours can also be unlocked by playing trve private solo Siege Ground at 100 points.
>they didn't bother to add the iron hands tabard to the one new character that can wear tabards this updateSaber, please. This is embarrassing.
TLDR they are all bad but salamander sword is the least worst>stalker bad damagegimmick auspex is only 10% damage>swordParries make your lights deal almost as much damage as a power rake, xenophase still has way stronger power rakes and better cleave>combi flamerweaker carbine with a flamer that runs out of ammo too fast>hammer axeits aftershock but slightly slower>meltalol>fistits a fist. gimmick is useless because charged attacks have a ton of cleave and do 4x the damage as the melta blastSnowniggers continue to demonstrate they have not even a basic understanding of their game.
>>2772722>xenophase still has way stronger power rakes and better cleaveYeah but>BalancedNocturne's is just a straight upgrade over Fencing and even Block.>Power Stance the shitters>Parrybait everything for 300% damage>Dodge into Speed Stance the fatties
>>2772722is the heroic carbine really weaker than the relic ammo one that everyone uses?
>>2772783yes
>>2772798what a disaster, these devs are so scared and shook of players just oneshotting enemies...as a space marine
>Demonstration video has footage of the Auto Bolt Rifle instead of the Heroic StalkerCan vatniks do ANYTHING right?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ua4wif0jVJs
>>2772622Based. Locking anything behind silly pvp mode should be punishable by death. Even more so when unlocks are tabards you can't even change color of, with the exception of one.
>>2772807please understand, Ivan Ivanovich has been working alone on this update since begin of june. he only had one ration of bread and water, no vodka.
>>2772828It sucks that I'm level 50, level 8 classes but I still have to unlock Ophelian Liberation and Gathalamor Crusade because I haven't won with said weapons 25 times.But all of the alternate colourways and the Chaos armours are unlocked kek.
im trying out the fist, but the problem is in melee you pretty much only have time to parry and do sprint attacks, and the sprint attack does not combo into the fire attack
>>2771901>>2771903>only Guilliman gets to wield a burning blade>what is DrakebladeWhat a piece niggerish bullshit to put in a statement trying to excuse their own lazyness.
>>2772854Vatniks don't know that flaming swords are not that uncommon amongst Space Marines, every chapter has a few.
>to get this tabard, you need to kill 9999 enemies in pvp over a single week while having ultramarine colors>to get this slightly different tabard, you need to press Q onceI don't get it but I won't complain.
>>2772899Just use Cheat Engine, it has an actual working table now so you don't have to search and experiment.Ignore PvP forever.
so let me get this straight - the proper way to beat terminus in absolute is to ignore the terminus, kill the extremis and ranged adds, bring him to 50% health, stop, kill the extremis and ranged adds, then kill the terminus?
>>2772931Nuke him with auspex or pick sniperSame as always
>>27729312 teammates deal with the wave, 1 guy handles the Terminus but does not damage him to half health where it'll spawn another wave to not overwhelm his teammatesOnce all the waves are dealt with, everyone focus fires on the TerminusExceptions are Neurothropes with a Sniper present with a Las Fusil/BSR, take that nigga out immediately as fast as possible
>we gave the 1h bolt carbine 2 more magazines, now fuck off
>>2772931thats usually best. who ever the terminus is focused on should try to survive and dodge away. but you can obliterate terminus with auspex if you want to quickly burst him down
>>27729311 guy wrangles the terminusThe other 2 wipes out the wave
sanginginus....
there is no reason to ever do a light attack with the fist so you are gimping yourself just trying to do this thing
>>2773053Pretty stupid since a power fist is still a power fist, Space Marines don't hold still and charge their fists while they're being shot at/mogged at melee.They're just going to punch enemies to death, this is just Saber's Soulslop mindset.
>>2773053How much did the warriors in the back get hit beforehand for that melta blast to incapacitate them?
>just used that new CE table to clean up the last of my ordeals, PvP shit, siege weapon skinsholy fuck it's finally overI am free from ivan's grind
>>2773105That new CE table doesn't unlock weapon PvP skins that require victories, it only unlocks the siege mode colours.Everything else yeah, we're back to comfy weekly grinding.
>>2773105>I am free from ivan's grindand what now? you close the game and wait for the next release?
>>2773126correctmaybe the next patch wont be shit
>>2773126nta, but I can use all the cosmetics and skins in pve that I want without needing to spend ungodly amounts of time unlocking themI still enjoy the game very much for what it is (despite saber's best efforts to ruin it), I just don't have to grind
>>2773126I'll just play the weeklies again, maybe some PvP to unlock the weapon skins.Since guns are no longer tied to progression I can freely blast my way and hop on teams to victory.Going to be weird seeing a level 50 player score 2-15 or something.
>>2773117it does thougheverbeitI've never used the sidearm carbine once in PvP, ever, and yet here are my skins unlocked for it>>2773126I wasn't engaging in the ordeal or PvP grind even before this. All I do is build experimentation and weekly strat/siege. Now I don't even have to be tempted to get 1000 PvP kills or play fucking vanguard.But yes, I can also just watch till next patch, which I probably will because this one sucked.
>>2773139Looks like I did something wrong
>>2773146I used the combined veterancy and pvp weapon skins option and then followed his instructions for completing a single custom, local server PvP match
>>2773084i think its considered a charge attack since it staggers. but it deals 60 damage up front then with the burn 200 damage total. but its pretty niche, if you are trying to force it to happen you might as well charge all the way and kill them in one hit it takes the same amount of time.
Skill recharge perks are garbage. Why can't the gopniks make them reduce the base cooldown instead?
>Terminator Sorcerer now appears at the end of Purgation and DisruptionLMAO they really don't want people playing against Chaos.
>>2773185And not Obelisk?
>>2773200Haven't tried Obelisk yet.I'm currently at the lift in Vox Liberatis, only a Neurothrope spawn so far.
>>2773209Is it a guaranteed spawn in all difficulties or a part of the ambient terminus spawn points?
I'd really love for the Encarmine Axe to actually do damage. The cute gimmick doesn't give it anything over the standard block Axe.
>>2773226i like it on bulwark since blocking already deals 300 damage on its own and i can take the sweep attack and use it on something else
>>2773212It spawned automatically in the end of Purgation and in the bomb area with Valtus. No additional boss battle in Vox Liberatis, almost was JUSTed by the Neurothrope.
>>2773212we're living in a post-meaning era. young people just copy the way youtube celebrities talk and don't think the words they repeat used to convey something. Guaranteed spawn just means "i've seen it spawn with my own eyes and it made me uncomfortable"
>>2773324...hwhuht
Easy Anti-Cheat doesn't shit on you for using Cheat Engine?
>>2773361you need a bypass
>>2773126>you close the game and wait for the next release?Yep. I'm done jumping through hoops to keep devs' MAU up. Instead of getting off on their own vanilla-scented farts they should start listening to the "community", starting with bugs submitted on their own forums. And they should stop playing victims and have publisher's marketeers cover for them (pic related from today from the discussion about ignoring submitted and upvoted forum posts).
>>2773361not if you have easy anti-easy anti-cheat installed
>>2773324>4.5klolDo it vs a carnifex.
>>2773361Just use the bypass. If you try and join public match on PvP it will just kick you off to an offline lobby. So it doesn't even do anything harmful because you won't get into public matches anyway but you can still unlock everything. Enjoy!
>>2773260Pretty sure that area's just supposed to spawn a Terminus to make it more theatrical and have Valtus hose it down on the final holdout before the bombs go. It wouldn't surprise me if they didn't code it to only spawn a Helbrute.
>>2773226I like it on Carbine Vanguard because you don't necessarily need the single target DPS and it's nice to have gaunt genocide in a melee slot to efficiently deal with the bastards.
>>2773394That's what I'm thinking of too.So that only really leaves Obelisk and Purgation
>Can't change the color of the Regal Tabard
Oh sweet they fixed the Wolfspear decal so the stupid diamond that they never ever had can me bade transparent.
>>2773378i cant recreate it. i can do this one over and over though
>>2773469They will slowly release every color variant with each consecutive patch, don't worry.
>>2773496Incredible. Really impressive.
>>2773508at this point i can't even blame saber forgetting what shit they have. tho not adding cape ordeals for the techie for the second time in a row is kind of cringe Desu Famalam
>No new Heavy Salamander's capeWHYTELL ME THIS IS A BUGDON'T MAKE ME FUCKING BUY BOTH DLCs
How do you guys like the power greataxe?
>>2773606It is functionally identical to the relic block thunder hammer. I dont like it at all because thunder hammer sucks.
>>2773606all of the heroics except the power sword suck and whether or not the power sword also sucks is up for investigation
>fire power sword needs to parry twice just to briefly do the same damage the heroic light spam fist does at all times>doesn't affect power whirl despite it just being part of the light attack chainactually yeah, the power sword also sucksthey all sucksaber must be upset after getting droned for months and taking it out on everyone else
The spores weekly is some massive fucking bullshit on hard, I bet 100 bucks the devs did not even try playing this shit
They didn't fix the shield being the same color as the pauldron...I can't report it either because I would need to give my phone number to post on the dickscord
>put a skin on the heroic melta>it can't fire now
>>2773652It's buggedOnly Majoris should spawn spores, instead every enemy spawns spores
Just did a run of Purgation and didn't run into a Termie Sorc at the end.Anon lied to me
>>2773661That makes me feel a bit better. I was DROWNING brother, but we did endure
>change your last "deathwatch" toon to another chapter>saber releases the deathwatch arm that was in the game since the release two and a half years in
>Update>Six new weapons>Buy the melee ones>Go into practice mode>In literally 5 minutes have definitively proven all three are under powered >Somehow, devs cant figure this out or buff the weapons to make them viableTheir incompetence is actually staggering.
How terrible/good is this patch on a scale of 1 to 10 Brothers? 1 being absolute dogshit and 10 bein amazing content. I know it's not the latter but still
>>2773754What the fuck was this PTS even for
>>2773756A solid 4>maybe 2 heroics are just "okay">termie sorc is cool
>>2773756Its shockingly less buggy than p13. So its like a 2. None of the new heroics are good, most are unusable. It would be a 0 if I didnt get to use cheat engine to unlock everything.
>>2773770>cant recolor salamander iron halo>salamander champion skin uses a different gold than any of the color picker goldsNevermind, its a 1. They cant do a fucking single thing correctly.
>>2773756Pointless, literally
>>2773786the firstborn chestplate also has some weird tint on the aquilla.
>>2773762>>termie sorc is coolwe'll see about it
>>2773817sageru
>>2773786>>2773812Different model entirely. Missing tabbard, cant recolor belt, gold doesn't exist in color picker. Oh and the helmet accents are overly dark as well.
>>2773817>>2773821I can confirm he does not show up at the end in Purgation so I have no expectations he will show up at the end of Obelisk.
>>2773758To piss everyone off apparently
>>2773758to build hype for youtube niggers to make content while they "work" PTS is a scam to build interest and draw out release.
>lvl 25 p4>very obviously not skilled or familiar enough with the game to have earned it, randomly backtracking 30+ seconds for literally nothingwhy the fuck do these retards think that absolute is gated by levels and not by skill?
>>2773935wdym, everyone is playing absolute now regardless of anything to grind the capes
>>2773944i mean why the fuck am i getting lobbies of retards who not only need hard carrying but actively waste my time while i do so
>>2773949as alwayspost codes if you can't handle absolute yourself
>>2773956read my lipsi can hard carry any shittersbut it is intolerable when they're being extra retarded and running all the way back from the elevator to the refinery entrance for literally nothing
>>2773659>tried the melta earlier>thought they were just lazy and didn't bother implementing an animation for it>read this post>log back in and check>it's fucking realI DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW I CAN STILL BE SURPRISED AT THE INCOMPETENCE WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK SABER
Ok but what is actually the point of the melta attack of the melta power fist?It's like a heavy attack but it does less damage and requires more setup???
>>2773994yes
>>2773994burning damage over timeit'll only be useful against terminus enemies, and even then not really because you don't get to spec into bonus burning damage like the pyre does
>>2773994It's like, cool, manDon't you want to do cool shit dudeDudeBro
This patch is such a bummer. Even the new armors are shit
>>2773999>burning damage over timeI tested it specifically in the battle simulator and the burn from the melta attack still leaves the attack at around two thirds the damage of a charged heavy and slightly above that of an uncharged heavy. And it has significantly shorter range.Also it's balance but does less damage than the relic balance fist so it really is just a pure downgrade with a genuinely pointless gimmick attached.
c-c-c-irque macci anon-sama?
>>2773754melee heroics aren't allowed to be good unless they're fencing so shitters aren't forced off the style
>>2774050It's a much faster attack. Are you stupid or something?>durr why would I use an attack that comes out faster, lets me apply dot on stuff and then continue dodging or attacking in other ways?
With all the wasted potential the Raptors pack still makes me happy, shoutout to the Brother that helped me with my 4k texture pack issues, now I can take some mean pics
Made a (few) remaster of an old classic too
>>2774092The video clearly shows doing a setup light attack for the followup melta takes about as long as a charged heavy and has less range and damage. It takes noticeably longer than an uncharged heavy to do slightly more damage with damage over time and still has less range.Did you not watch the webm that demonstrates this?
>>2774050>barely lasts for a few secondsholy shit, it really is a pointless fucking gimmick
so, could you always toggle fullscreen mode with alt+enter or did they add it this patch?
>>2774106Yeah, and in the real world that setup light attack would hit too. But you were fucking stupid and reset the damage counter between it and the melta attack.You are too stupid to test this kind of thing, anon. In what fucking universe are you going to use single attacks and not combos? Of course the speed of each attack loses importance if you are using them all individually in your fucking pointless test for dork morons.
today i realized that in inferno before a new generator is announced, enemies spawn from the latest generator you have defended rather than a random direction.post shit that was obvious in hindsight but took you several hundered hours to discover.
>>2774132Aside from the laughable idea that a light attack, from a power fist no less, would provide any meaningful damage even if it was in range to hit anythingDo you seriously not see the issue with this gimmick compared to just taking the block fist and destroying things at a much safer distance, with more options to trade speed for increased damage?
Doesn't seem like a good patch based on reading the past few posts bros...>Effectiveness has been greatly reduced: Base max income now starts at 720 for the team and gradually decreases with each wave to 300 at wave 30+ like all other sources of income.>Increased Enemy Damage Resistance Cap on high waves:From 60% to 72% for regular enemiesFrom 80% to 88% for Terminus enemieslol
so what heroic should i get for bulwark then?seems all heroics are just not good
>>2774226>>2771938
>hard stratagem>low level console nigger
>>2774132In what universe are you using a power fist for light attacks and a worse short ranged heavy attack instead of just using charged heavy attacks? In the real world I'm using the charged heavies to instantly KO majoris from half a map away instead of hugging them to do a light attack into a light special that itself cannot chain.Have you ever actually used a power fist? Do you know how to use it?
>new fist is balanceYeah into the trash it goes
Idk why everyone's crying over the power sword, it's a straight upgrade to the Relic Fencing PS
>All skins, ordeals and challenges auto completed Thank fucking god.
>>2774395Because no one uses the relic PS they use the Xeno which does massive damage in an AoE.
Thoughts on what I bought with my dorito bucks>PS is just a better fencing PS>Melta is incredibly useless>Axe is fine
>>2773935If a few max level players are that bad, imagine how bad a typical low level is.
>>2774402>balance>on a class built around parryingSo they're retarded?
>>2774407You can still parry with balance you twat knuckle, and the Xeno rake damage is obscene.
I don't think they want you to go over Wave 15 for Siege
>>2774409
I extensively used the fencing ps prior to this update and will continue to use the salamander sword long after this update. I don't care if the balanced numbers are better, the practical application of the speed and defense on fencing is unmatched for me.
>>2774406i specify that because i'm guessing some cheat table got very popular lately and they just cheated themselves all the shit because they were also having capeswhich i don't care about it if they weren't also totally retarded
I will continue to not use power sword on bulwark. If I wanted a light spam melee weapon I'd use the funny power fist that also gives me free gunstrikes and still does over 200 heavy attack damage at significant range.
>Heroic Stalker >10 bullets >4 body shots > 6 head shots = 226 >10 head shots = 265I just don't see the use case here.For Tact, you already have Auspex scan. Losing out on something like the Pyre with its infinite cleave, infinite ammo doesn't seem worth it. If you want really big damage on single targets you're going to go Plasma. Like maybe there is a use case against bosses, but it doesn't seem worth it. For sniper its definitely not even close to worth it. Giving up either of the one tap options you have? Fuck no. This would make more sense if the auspex was a alt-fire on a 8 second cooldown and it dealt bonus damage against scanned enemies.
>>2774450this is you
The heroics are all weak because they did not want another Pyreblaster or heroic plasma pistol situationVatniks gonna vatnik
We are reaching high levels of Chadberry drip
>>2774166>>2774377In the world where you fight bosses. You know, the things you can't one shot and would actually be affected by the dot in the first place? The ones with attacks you have to evade, thus making shorter attacks useful too?You are a pair of autistic mutts too stupid to see beyond your gimmicky heavy only playstyle.
>>2774500I still havent seen a blue marine color scheme that looks good other than vanilla smurfs.
>>2774530>You know, the things you can't one shot and would actually be affected by the dot in the first placeThe video shows that the special light+damage over time amounts to about as much damage as an uncharged heavy.>The ones with attacks you have to evade, thus making shorter attacks useful tooIt takes less time to throw out an uncharged heavy than trying to find an opportunity that gives you enough time to do a light into a melta light. The special light is also shorter ranged than the heavy attacks.So the melta fist's gimmick is actually less safe in terms of timing and spacing than just heavy spam against chaff or bosses.What was your point again?
>>2774530>thus making shorter attacks useful too?And the melta fist is slower than just throwing out a heavy attack so its completely pointlessif it was actually just a dot on lights or dash attacks or some shit like that so you could weave one in then keep dodging it'd be great but its slower than power whirling for less effect
>>2774530Carnifex Heavy: 226 Burn: 190.4Majoris Heavy: 260.8 Burn: 190.4
If you're playing PVP for the weeklies I strongly advise switching to dark blue, black or Raptors green chapters.If you're rocking red, yellow, blue, white or anything bright you'll get shot to bits immediately and die all the time because you're the first target everyone will focus fire upon by visual instinct. For Chaos there's not much else you can do thanks to limited choices and spikey bits but if you're playing Loyalists you can control and slightly camouflage yourself in maps.
>>2774609If you're playing PvP for the weeklies I strongly advise you just Cheat Engine it all in instead of playing PvP lmao
>>2774637>Cheat EngineI still want to play online every week and not getting hit with the modded game instakick menu.
>>2774642>he doesn't know
>>2774642Just this one time https://fearlessrevolution.com/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=37704https://fearlessrevolution.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=40222&p=461408#p461408
>>2774652>>2774654I still play the weeklies despite maxed out on blue doritos and resources.
>>2774654going to be hilarious seeing level 50 tier 8 classes on pvp but they start feeding so bad kekonce leddit and steam forums get a hold of this saber will patch up the game so this won't work by patch 15 or even a hotfix in weeks time
>>2774655So just cheat them in and continue playing, yeah. There's no downside.
Tempted to cheat everything in but also worried it'll kill any motivation to actually play/grind
>>2774663>but also worried it'll kill any motivation to actually play/grindIf the reason you're playing is grinds then its not worth playing. Gameplay wise, they've done fuck all this update. Cheat in everything because in a couple days it'll be patched and wait until the actual gameplay update with the new classes and rebalanced existing classes.
FUCKING NIGGERS LOW LEVEL FAGGOTS JOINING MY HARD STRATAGEMS KILL YOURSELVES HOLY FUCKING SHIT
the butt plate is missing on the new regal tabard this looks goofy as hell
>>2774663Cheat everything, it's no biggie especially when the grind is retardedMaximum Absolute wins should be 20, not 50 or 100
>>2774663They will be adding more grind. You might as well get everything now while you can.
>>2774663I already had all classes prestige 4 and I was already only playing whenever there was an update.
Thanks to the emblem change, any imperfection in the armor plants a blob of black in a spot that shouldn't have any black.This is lore accurate Lamenter assfucking.
>>2774706no one tell him about the bare ass assault option...
>>2774738Twenty years ago games released with fully custom emblem creators.
Yep, just cheated everything in. I don't want any of this gay grind. I just want to ENJOY.
The terminator sorcerer is so much harder than the helbrute it's comical. He makes the hive tyrant look like majoris.What is with the difficulty creep in this game?
>>2774791The devs hate us.
>>2774738Lol they raped the lamenters icon but couldnt fix the sons of medusa one
>Deathwatch chest tabard clips through the modelFor fuck's sake.
>>2774738
>>2774791the devs are auditioning for a soulslop title
>>2774419>>2774407nta, but am I missing somethingisn't Fencing basically just trading stats for easier parrying?so if you're not just dogshit at parrying you should always be running Balanced no?
>>2774817Fencing and Block handle minoris enemies completely different.There are some moments where with a Balanced weapon you cannot fucking do shit when there are multiple attacks overlapping.
The moveset on this absolute cunt.https://streamable.com/8iwjl8
>Seize ground>165 to 24>Enemy team quits out>"Swapping teams in 5">Literally just I swap>I'm now 2v5 and over a hundred points behind; we lose 30 seconds laterI feel like the new team balancing system could use some fine-tuning.
>>2774924Fucking EVERYTHING needs to be fine tuned again after this update. This is probably their worst one yet.
>Siege camos not unlocking with cheat engine Anyone else having this issue? Everything else unlocked just fine but while they unlock, when I quit and restart they're locked again.
>>2774817Balance has a delay > parry window > too lateFencing has parry window > too lateThe difference is astronomical, there are endless situations where having no delay will save your life. Using balance is down right retarded most of the time.
>>2774817>not a single average joe guard game>darktide shat the bed and went for super spehsial named characters God dammit.
>>2774980I mean you're still not named in the story, you're just an official part of the Inquisitorial strike team now.
>>2774985>Try to be average joe>Godlike Psyker causing entire suburbs to explode with lightning strikesIt just isn't the same
>>2774989That's still a nameless psyker while we have 7 un-helmeted and named Space Marines.
>>2774817Being able to respond to something right as it's in your face is why Fencing and even Block are far better than Balanced. That 166ms delay on Balanced cucks the shit out of you.
>>2774799They did fix it. It now has a secondary colour.
why not just make it so that every heavy has a burn effect?Am I stupid?
Devs can't even make this game work. Are we supposed to believe the third one will be any better ? I was gonna say give the game to an actual studio but it looks like every single studio is fucking raped these days.
>>2775061My cope is that this game is updated by interns
At least 40k is getting multiple games with some qualities. Meanwhile, Halo is fucking DEAD in the water (and has been for years) but they KEEP raping its fucking corpse. It doesn't even hurt anymore, its just ... Weird.
>>2775113Halo was always garbage held together by millions from Microsoft.
>Techie can't use the new Stalker Relic >The one class that an argument could be made for it (Auspex + Sniper)
How in the fuck did Saber fuck this shit up?
I'VE GOT EYES ON A SPEARMINT
>>2771962Yeah I noticed it in the practice room. Has a second delay when I was playing assault
To the anon that sent the links for ordeal skipping, thank you. Godsend. Fuck these devs.
>>2775149>CheatingYou're welcome
>join hard siege>level 17 tac and 25 assault>both are prestiged once>assault doesn't have a team perk>ask him why>he says he doesn't know howI want to violently dismember these subhumans
>>2775210>I don't know howwho the fuck are these people? where do they come from? how do they get like this?
Oh wow, I actually did incap a Neurothrope in the new weekly hard with just the las fusil thanks to the positive condition in under 7 seconds.
>>2775220New patch people who want to try out the new heroics and jump into any hard stratagem looking to get carried.You know the one thing I might be thankful for being stuck on the console is that I can't type my tirades against these people in real-time. I'd be calling them all types of shit to their face if I had the opportunity to.
>>2775113343 was truly ahead of the curve by being a cargo cult from the get-go before most studios themselves ended up becoming such things, like a ship of Theseus.
>>2775220I called them retards and the tac chided me like a woman about me being offensive as a Black Templar
should i get the heroic stalker?
Weekly was easy as fuck, just mow down nids with the heavy bolter
>>2775470Its the worst of a bad bunch of new heroics. If you do get it, either you want the skin or you're banking on it being buffed.
The current weekly is very good for completing the "kill a boss in 7 seconds" ordeal as tactical or sniper. Just stay back, wait for a neurothrope to spawn and blast away
>>2775488PSA: The terminator sorcerer counts towards this ordeal regardless of how long it takes for you to kill it. Make the most of this before they patch it.
>>2775480the auspex perks work with it, right?
>loadouts don't actually save your armor config/colorsbut why
>>2774777>Yep, just cheated everything in. I don't want any of this gay grind. I just want to ENJOY.Indeed. I did the same thing. Fuck the grind I just want to play around with everything at my disposal.
>>2774958There are two options for siege camos>You already have AT LEAST ONE skinor>You don't have ANY skinsMake sure which one applies to your case and tick the right option in CE. Then you have to complete 5 waves of siege and dip out to battle-barge. I exited and relaunched the game afterwards just to be sure.
>join the mission with the grail on absolute>become grailcuck and then after the tomb literally not a single enemy spawnsyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn
Raptors pack is worth it just for the chest and helmet. I can finally make more tacticool Ultramarines.
>heavy’s class perk is he takes 10% less ranged damage >but only when the iron halo is upI feel saber should probably take a look at this when they rework his perks
is speed style contested health or power style contested health better? I feel like speed works better for terminus regen which is when you'll get hit the most without executes beign within distance
>>2775666speed style, especially when used to cycle power whirls.
>>2775660technically the iron halo only protects you in a 180 deg angle. But since saber implemented the goofy enemies-off-screen-attack-you-less-often rule it's still pretty useless, yes.
Manhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK3jA29InlMSpace Marine 2 just isn't the same
There's actually people playing PvP in Oceania. Wonder how long it'll last.
>>2775713Damn you make that look fun
carried by a sniper on the weekly stratagem again
Any ausbros down for the weeklu?
>>2775757yeah man send one thru
>>27757596KJZR - Aus Hard weekly maybe dailies.
