City Of Heroes is a 2004 superhero-themed MMO well known for its in-depth powers and character customization.>DownloadWe're playing on the Thunderspy private server.https://thunderspy.net/>SupergroupWe have a villain supergroup called MMODvengers and a hero supergroup called Just Us League.Ask in the thread for an invite.>Previous City of Heroes thread:>>2737419
Posting the last few pics that couldn't fit in the previous thread.
AHHHHHH MOTHERLAND
Whew! Hell of a photoshoot to cap-off our time moonlighting as the motliest batch of superheroes around (or supervillains depending on which weeks you preferred to play).Across all locales we visited in both Paragon City on Blueside, and our short stint back to our well-decorated supervillain base on Redside, I ended up taking a total of 915 photos, curated further down to just ("just") /33/ fit for publication to the thread. A few alt-takes included in that count, granted, but still a respectable amount of variety on display.As is always the case with these batch-uploads, they'll largely be posted sans any flavor text, barring a chronology marker attached to each post. Surely (You) know the drill by now.We've quite a lot to get through, so for one final round, lettuce begin.[1/33]
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>>2788413And that's that. (Got slightly out-of-sequence towards the end there, whoops. This one was intended to be posted before Torchlight Vigil - 1).Thank (You) all for attending, and for giving this highly unique title a shot. As one of only three entries to score a coveted +1 week time extension from the MMODventure so far, there's no denying this game was - and in some ways still is - something special to cherish.Best of luck in Aion to those departing for it! Think I'll stay behind for a bit longer, myself; there's just so much left to see with this one.Although odds are fairly high that soloing through The Grind™ after you 'lot have moved on simply won't hit the same, so perhaps I'll be slinking over to Aion or wherever-else before long. We shall see.
>>2782340Oh damn, thanks. Looks like you guys already played through a bunch of the MMOs I'd have been interested in.This always seemed like a cool project that I occasionally remember exists but I've never partook in it myself.
>going to Blunderspylmao, did they seriously pay you guys?
>>2789183it won the vote, so that's where we went
>Remembering how last week the person who runs the Cathedral of Pain raids was so overjoyed because they got a full league for the first time>This Tuesday will be back to normal business as everyone is gone from CoHSad.
>>2790566>Implying anyone will be playing AION at that time by WednesdayI'll see if I can join the raid.
did you slay the octopussy?
>>2790730Yes
>>2788700You are always welcome to join us anon! The more the merrier>>2790688You got a point desu..I feel most anons won't go past Sanctum
>>2788249Thanks for posting 3.6% of your screenshots.Gonna post a fraction of my power too.
>The screenshot section of the gallery is at 603, the most of any mmo we've played
My eyes are too saturated with water to pick between these 4 identical pictures. Gonna start a strawpoll for which one is best later.
everyone's favorite animal
>>2791333Islet btfo
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>>2788359Same shot, but I think this one has better framing
>>2788379that's such a good shot
I'm gonna get Seax' backpack one day.
>>2791535I want to smooch Seax desu, she's cute
>>2791535really got right up in my bootyhole there huh>>2791644gosh
>>2789183Rusty fishhook bait
>>2788291This pic goes so hard
>>2792257no it doesnt?
>>2791684>Chuuu~
not playing on homecomingbunch of losers
>>2792631Nobody's playing any CoH server now, console war anon. And we haven't for days. You're too late we're playing Aion now, complain about that server choice instead: >>2792181
>>2792688im sticking around CoH for a bit actually
>>2792716Have fun anon, if you need someone to run dungeons poke me in, although I am not lv 50 yet
>>2792688I'm playing CoH right now
>>2789183Dunno what's the issue with thunderspy besides the low pop.>All the cosmetics are unlocked>Can customize minions>all enhancements boosted and don't degrade.
>>2794599Guessing they're trying to stoke some long-dead console war shitstirring, given this game's history.For a lot of casual private server goers (not just for CoX but in general), population size is the only thing that matters, even when the server in question isn't very good. Whichever server happens to be first to market tends to vacuum-up most, if not all, of the private server sector for that specific title.Creates a highly frustrating self-fulfilling prophesy wherein newer, often more interesting private servers for a game seldom ever get any real attention, while older, already-established ones (which often rest on their laurels and refuse to continue refining the game they've effectively inherited) see further and further growth.By all accounts besides player count, Thunderspy offers a much better experience overall compared to something like Homecoming. But most longtime vets of this game are already too invested in Homecoming to start over on another server, and good luck convincing someone who's never played CoX before to try out a server with only ~20-30 people on it.I'm quite glad we landed on Thunderspy for our three-week stay all the same, and continue to sign-in even after the MMOD has moved on, at least for a bit longer.
>>2794890>By all accounts besides player count, Thunderspy offers a much better experience overall compared to something like HomecomingThat is incorrect, but all you know about homecoming is what the Thrunderchuds tell you.
>>2795028customizable pets is one of the best changes any of the servers have made, nothing Homecoming has done even comes close.
>>2795078Control pets at level 1 is also a really nice change
>>2795028Server speaks for itself since CoH without changes is pure ass. The only issue with coxg was the original schizo owner who scared off most of the population at the beginning
>>2795741>Server speaks for itselfyeah all 20 4chuds really does speak for itself lmao
2795836Here's your (you)
>>2795836Why are you trying to convince us when we're playing Aion now?
>>2794890>By all accounts besides player count, Thunderspy offers a much better experience overall compared to something like Homecoming.Homecoming has actual new content updates on par with the official game. Thunderspy just has number tweaks and jank mods.
>>2798984So what? We're not playing anymore so any future content doesnt matter.
The raid will be starting soon if anyone's interested.
>told you can play as tarantula>it's just the gay robotmonkey paw...
>>2801427power customization at a tailor to change it
>>2801557yeahp, thank you
>>2795078>customizable pets>control pets at level 1 when you actually need help killing shit>new costume parts, powersets, and customizations in the game that's most famous for being an OC donutsteel simulatorYeah but HC has gay benches, so they're clearly the better choice.
>>2801427The site showed a different thing...
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>>2801610that's a widow. different flavor of spider robot
why
>>2801733Wait, vanilla Widows can also turn into spiders? Speaking of transformations, is there an archetype/powerset that uses them? I recall an ages-old post in /v/ where someone posted a gif of a character doing a power rangers-esque henshin with an animation of multiple colored silhouettes spreading to the sides then colliding back into the character.
>>2803302Peacebringers, Warshades, and Primalists have form shift powers. The thing you saw was probably just a costume change emote.
>>2803387>The thing you saw was probably just a costume change emote.I'VE BEEN LIVIN' A LIE!!! At least I can try making a Kamen Rider
>>2801576This is the power of being the first private server...
>>2802572battlestation thread
Alright mmod is over and the console wars have restarted so I'm out of these threads lets just let the thread rot now.
>>2806028Nobody's playing that Chinese MMO
Okay, it has been sometime since I last logged into thunderspy and didn't register an email when making my account. Now cant get in with my previous credentials. I even tried resetting my password. Has the server go through some kind of reset while I was gone?
wish they used exploding submarine more
>>2807290Nothing I know of, you can always dm the admins directly on discord they're quick to help
>log into Thunderspy>get a kickass hero concept>name isn't taken>arrive in Atlas Park>see Niru the attention whore idling under the statueImmediately killed my motivation, time to go to Homecoming.
>>2809089>oh no, an attenwhore idling under the atlas statue!>better go to the server with dozens of attention whores idling under the atlas statue
>>2812725Yes.
>go to homecoming>Lots of players but the gameplay sucks without QoL>Roll back on thunderspy
>>2814982honestly Homecoming has too much "QOL" in the form of "we're going to let you skip playing the game so you can go sit in AE with an endgame build all day"
welp it's is deadthey killed the server without needing an update this time...
>>2815825well it's based off of the secret invite-only server they ran for about 6.5 years after the game closed, so I imagine in that time period they didn't really care about doing content they've already done for what was effectively twice the lifespan of the game, and it was more just a social hangout app with fun paper dolls. HC kind of reflects that same philosophy - make a character specifically to AFK farm shit in AE, level your characters the same way, then sit in atlas and chat with your Sekrit Klub Buddies.
>>2822224Not like Thunderspy is that different. It's half-gameplay, half-Sekrit Klub.
>>2822252seems like most people on tspy are interested in playing the game rather than just hanging out and yappin
>>2822252it's not really a Sekrit Klub if anyone can joinSCORE literally was a sekrit klub
>>2822291I retract my statement.
>The name you chose is already taken. Please try a new name!
>>2822224>I can't move on from being left out so you should play on a ghost town fanfic version of the game instead of the official licensed private server with a huge population
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>>2824272>official licensedyeah ok
>>2824272>y-you're just jealous you werent invited!No I'm actually proud of the fact I wasnt invited, because why the FUCK would I want to be involved with these fucking people?
>>2831131Why are rpfags always like this
>>2824272Rusty hook bait
>>2787889>Thunderspy devs have apparently implemented a new AI for mobs>Boot up the server and make a character to try it out>Apparently enemies that are fighting you will sometimes try to flee>Enemy that was dealing massive damage to me starts fleeing, fight is trivialized>Rando that was scratched in my AoE starts fleeing>Random enemy starts fleeing then just comes back at low health, because its not like fleeing enemies can heal themselves or do anything>??? What's the point of this shit>Open the discord to see how people are reacting>Some nitro booster on the discord made a complaint about it>Apparently this shit is even more annoying for melee classes because now they have to go chase down random enemies>Dev response: we'll disable it for tanks, now fuck off.This is what happens when people who have never worked on a game start put their hand into game design.
>>2834813they've always had the run away behavior, this new behavior makes ranged enemies kite away while still attacking
>>2834813Idk they're obsessed with doing things nobody asked for and it's certainly not going to actually grow their server by making their game filled with annoyances.
>>2822272Even if 90% of the homecoming population really was just fire farming/afk under atlas, the remaining 10 percent would still be orders of magnitude more people forming groups and playing the game than existing on tspy. Excelsior feels more populated than Freedom did.
>>2835141making combat more reactive and enemies (mildly) more intelligent IS an interesting idea, it's just poorly implemented right now.
>>2835145Tspy has better changes so who cares
>>2837954No it doesn't, you're just throwing shit at a wall with no thought behind it. No idea how this would affect gameplay but it would be REALISTIC if healing generated aggro/enemies kited you!Sorry for repeating myself but>This is what happens when people who have never worked on a game start put their hand into game design
My two cents of anecdotal evidence after three years on Homecoming. The population has dropped painfully in the past two years, there was an increase with the "We're official!" post - which HC still has not shown any proof of, outside of their own forum post saying "Trust us bro." From a day to day players perspective, most people logged in just idle in bases all day because you can not AFK timeout, either ERPing or swapping between discord channels or just talking in General/LFG/Help. Pub team recruiting has slowed to a crawl, the busiest LFG seems to get is when people advertise a fire arm and AE is nothing more than farmers and ERPers who do not have one of the public base codes or who want to use local for cybersex. Homecoming also keeps butchering power sets for some unknown reason with their "balance" changes. Thunderspy is not perfect, but it and Rebirth feel so much better to play as an actual game. The HC community - especially on Everlasting, is a bunch of gooners, bitter old people who no life the game, fashionista types, name collectors and people who just want to talk about how cool they were 10+ years ago when it was a live game.
>>2840672>bunch of gooners, bitter old people who no life the game, fashionista types, name collectors and people who just want to talk about how cool they were 10+ years ago when it was a live gamethose are the only groups of people who have interest in CoH nowadays, thoughso which one are you?
>>2841071I just have fun playing the game
>>2841071>so which one are you?Roleplayer and in-game content leader/creator/SG runner. I played for a mix of nostalgia and to get the superhero RP fix I had been missing since the game died back in 2012. Creating AE arcs, running zone/world content and RP, trying to create a community of people who have a passion for collaborative storytelling. Sadly, I found that you can lead a horse to water but you can not force it to drink.
>>2840672>>2841521>Making new character>Have a couple of names that fit the concept>/getglobalname>Name is taken, by known name hog of course>Thats fine, I have plenty of other ideas!>/getglobalname>Name is taken by the same person>/getglobalname>Name is taken by the same person>/getglobalname>Name is taken by the same person>/getglobalname>Name is taken by the same person>/getglobalname>Name is taken by the same person>/getglobalname>Name is taken by the other name hog>/getglobalname>Name is taken by the same person>/getglobalname>Name is taken by the same person>/getglobalname>Name is taken by the same person>/getglobalname>Name is taken by the same person>/getglobalname>Name is taken by the same person>/getglobalname>Name is taken by the same person>/getglobalname>Name is taken by the other name hog>/getglobalname>Name is taken by the other name hogYeah, sure, you REALLY need all those names and have multiple active characters that just magically are somehow the same concept.Average Homecoming experience.
>>2842588A lot of "veterans" go out of their way to hoard names on multiple accounts and threaten to blacklist you with the remaining community if you do not give them specific names you have. The community is distasteful.
>thunderchuds still seething long after the mmodventure has left lol lmao
>make a Soldier>make a Plant/Nature Controller>make a Widow>make a Staff/Ninjutsu Stalker>make Grav/Kin Dominator>make an Archery/Trick Arrow Corruptor>make a Beam Rifle/Kinetics Corruptor>dig up my old Katana/Super Reflexes Scrapper>they're all fun to playoh no
>>2839757I'm not reading that word salad. Sorry you lost
>>2842613This is some schizo shit you invented, this doesn't happen lmao.
>>2850637No its not. Type /getglobalname on Everlasting and the majority of names will be claimed by the same 3 people over and over and over and if you're unlucky enough to see them on it, its some level 1 that they quickly log on to snap a pic of then log off.I don't even have to supply proof because its someone literally anyone can do themselves by typing /getglobalname.
>>2850637I wish it was some schizo theory, but I had people begging me for names, a few going straight to threats and attempts at coercion when I said no. Did not matter if it was a level 1 placeholder or a Vet level 60, some people think they are entitled to names they had back on the live server or just want. Also, what >>2850669said. The greater majority of the remaining population of Everlasting have multiple accounts and are constantly collecting names to level to 6+ and shelve. It was such an issue that Homecoming did the name release a few years back.
>>2850669>>2850683NTA, but I can believe it.On certain popular KMMOs (Maplestory, Lost Ark, etc), hording desirable names is a known phenomenon, to the point where outright selling those names to wanting buyers through RMT Discord channels is very much a thing. Want to be THE Kirito, or have a super basic but identifiable name like "Cat" or "Lady" or "Flower"? You're gonna have to pay some random guy in Singapore a couple hundred bucks through CashApp/Zelle/Whatever for the privilege.Can't imagine the same sort of under-the-table name selling economy existing for CoH private servers, necessarily, but name hording is definitely a known quantity in the wider MMO space.
>>2850683Also most of them claiming its a name they had on live are liars as some attempt to guilt trip. Someone claimed that to me on in an attempt to get a name from a character I play a lot. The issue was, that I had that name on live too.
>>2850683I play on excelsior because it has the most players, I claimed a bunch of names during the free-up they did and I've never had a single person whisper me about them like that. Ironically I couldn't get the name of my live character but I did get the name I wanted to get way back then for him. But also I think complaining about names is whatever, I could honestly take it or leave it, just be more creative with your names. Don't be angry you can't have something unoriginal like "Pyro" for your fire character.
>>2852381Excelsior is the "normal" players. Everlasting is the mentally unwell roleplayers, gooners, min/max sweats and everyone in-between. Everlasting General and a lot of local will break down to people talking about their antidepressants, diabeetus medications, bowel movements and other unhinged stuff, between autofellating themselves and the "community" for being the best community ever! It was hilarious during the 2024 US election to see people freaking out in LFG/Gen/Help as votes came in and to see some of the most racially charged and frankly vile things said when the minorities they love and make characters of, did not vote Democrat. Lmao. Like I said, 99% of Everlasting in the past years is just mentally unwell people who turned Homecoming into their Real Life, and are so deep in the game sauce that they are sustained by delusions of grandeur and their own self-importance in a dying community for a dead game.
>>2852381Thats cause Excelsior is fairly normal. Everlasting is another breed when it comes to names. Has been since the Virtue days. https://forums.homecomingservers.com/topic/1205-drop-a-name-pick-up-a-name/Also I don't think you're grasping the issue because you're thinking its just that we can't find the one name we want. Its not that all the really generic names are taken, its that every form of it will be taken. Its not as simple as "Oh Pyro is taken, I'll try Pyro man" its that the same person will have:>Pyro>Pyro Man>Pyro Woman>Pyro Person>Fire Man>Flame Man>Torch Man>Torch>Torch Ligher>Torchlighter>Pyroman>Pyro-Man>Flame-Man>Flame-Woman>Firey>Burning Man>Burn>Burner>Burner Manetc. typing in /getglobalname and its the same person over and over and over
>>2852546Yeah, all those names suck. Are you fucking Stan Lee or something?
>>2857446I'm just using your example as a further example.
>>2839757Nearly all MMOs have heal aggro, I don't get it.
>>2858144NTA, but as someone who's seen entire rooms of mobs make a beeline straight to anyone running Empathy or Nature Affinity due to cascading social aggro, it's moreso a matter of not being able to easily rip hate from groups of enemies if you aren't playing Tanker/Brute.Other melee archetypes can spec into Provoke for an AoE taunt, but it barely lasts any time before wearing off (even with taunt enhancements), and has an annoyingly long cooldown. Tanker/Brute have shorter cooldowns on their taunts, yet taunts in general also have a weirdly small radius to them as well, making rooms where mobs are spread out a real chore to manage. Further leads to the likelihood of your healer suddenly having like 15 dudes on them out of nowhere, depending on your notoriety settings.The "solution" here is to just throw copious amounts of CC and -Accuracy/-Damage debuffs around, but you don't always have that at your disposal depending on your party comp. Especially not on Thunderspy, since if you aren't playing during NA primetime, you won't be grouping up with anyone due to EU hours being nearly dead, and SEA/AUS hours being actually dead.Queue has a lot of interesting ideas which don't really mesh well with the kind of game CoX is at its core.Enemies being able to kite you when not actively Taunted sounds like it could be novel. Except this is a game where nearly all attacks have stupidly long animation lock, meaning life as a melee class is complete hell unless you spec into Provoke as a band-aid fix. GOAL-oriented A.I. could lead to more interesting encounters. Yet that occasionally leads to random enemies running off to the farthest corners of the map in an attempt to "find cover", despite them not having any tools to really make use of that behavior any further. Etc, etc.Can admire the ambition, but the execution needs some real work.
>>2858144You still can't just slip heal aggro on a game that didn't have it and expect it to just work.
Fuck it, Squad doesn't wanna work tonight so I'll give it a shot. Do I pick Freedom or Rogue?
>>2858632>Freedom (Hero) if you want easy mode>Freedom (Villain) if you want less easy mode>Rogue (Resistance or Loyalist, doesn't matter) if you want medium mode
>>2858654I chose villain. Heroes are boring.
>>2840672>7 years of seethingThis is just sad. Leo mind broke you.
>>2858498Not every game needs the same aggro system. This game giving tanker punch-voke ( 5 man taunt on every attack) is why WoW decided to ruin its tanking system mid way though wotlk, which Final Fantasy mimicked in shadowbringers. >>2852397the best server even if the based people are lowkey. People who are good at the game are rarely lefties. >>2840672the 28.3 patch last november was the best patch this game has gotten since it received a full expansion pack and it took like 6 months for people to realize this. The gameplay is massively improved but yeah we don't have the population we used to. Devs waited to make a shit load of new content until 'we're offical' >>2837954tspy hasn't made a new powerset in a long time, its on life support sadly. >>2834813cobalt , the major homecoming has very little game design experience too>>2789183its not just the low pop but also the economy and experience curve being not as good. It does have quite fun gimmicks. I recommend thunderspy for static 8 man teams, 12 person freindgroups who are already experienced with the game
Patch notes for the next homecoming patch are outnew powerset- Light Support ( Lots of chain effects here, and a spotlight power)New powerset- Sonic Armor ( damage res, -res aura, double taunt auras, multiple +Absorbs and a fancy teleport power that teleports mobs around you to where you want to teleport and then damages and knocks everything. One of the coolest powers in the game - the idea is to bring little shit with you from one spawn to the next spawn.)Major Powerset Reworks - Empathy, Forcefield, Sonic Support, Traps - SUPER STRENGTH . Rage now makes your powers cost more but several powers gain a cleave effect called SMASH. Super Strength brute is gonna be ungodly strong - they are pushing a fan favorite power on purpose. Some new customization options- Wings that only appear during flight mode , eye beams for several energy blast powers, drudge faces Major Content Drops - NEW WING OF LABRYNTH OF FOGnew Dota style pvp - gives XP - designed by the labrynth of fog Dev. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OJZvXJNQN8&list=PLIOP1yWctCPAMLx4RnmVC3h5V-kekO5x6&index=2New version of the citidel task force New story arc in kallisti wharf ( homecoming story arcs are really god damn good I can never get people to play this shit. I can get people to play +7 difficulty with no level boosts every time even though its absolutely sadomasocistic with 5% damage dealt and 95% more damage tanken but i can never get people to play the fucking 12 custom taskforces wtf community retards) Labrynth of Fog is the best thing this game has ever had by a massive gap. I am still shocked the HC devs made something this godly, especially the derpy comic book dude who hangs out in pocket D turning into a KamiDev
>>2862865there is some other good stuff in this patch too. buffs to council mobs, the ability to color certain textures in base creation ( this feature is still being expanded)
>>2862852>>2862865no one cares
>>2863776sour grapes
>>2862865Kek more content in this single patch than Thunderspy has added in it's entire lifespan
>>2863867that was the last november patchthunderspy had a shitload of cool changes when it was new and had 200 people instead of 20. alot of recent patches has been bringing that wacky shit in line. illusion assault and shotgun tanker and targetless DP are still very cool. but the 36 man labyrinth is the coolest thing since ITF . huge maze full of secrets, underwhelming boss fight ( cool arena they need to double his health and add another mechanic or two) , then the font, then 2 additional zones? the 8 man door missions in the non euclidean labyrinth core are incredible. I like to take over teams and kidnap people with a team teleporter to take them into noneuclidian space and get them to consume the nightmare seed. If people join my door teams two days in a row and i message them on the third day they are always busy with a respec lol
omega are you still playing?
>>2863861No literally nobody cares. /mmod/ moved on like 1 months ago they're on Rusty Heart now. They're not gonna play it, they're gonna play most likely Adventure Quest next
I think the funny thing about this is that in 2023, Thunderspy's host Brain lost his shit and said the staff was ignoring player complaints and just doing whatever they wanted while ignoring the players. His complaints got buried because he said all that in the middle of what was otherwise a spergout, but it was all true.
Homecoming "devs" are on record for peeping into tell/team based messages and circulating ERP logs and personal information to each other and their friends. The City of Heroes private server community is full of retards.
>>2865112yeah there was a huge ERPer purge maybe 6 months after the canon character purge. For awhile I thought that HC was a scam to collect donation money - but now they are doing new content so I no longer beleive that. I was pissed when they added travel suppression to PvE but in hindsight they were rightneed to complete more than 1 4star taskforce. Fucking roomwide damage makes it very harsh on blaster. Its wild to see mechanics from ff14 in this game
>>2865095Brain basically killed the server from ever recovering
>>2867370How?
>Thunderspy has enemies with random -45% defense debuffs because they screwed up the archetype balanceOH NO NO NO NO AHAHAHAHAHA
>>2867419Imagine being a 4chan Homecoming cheerleader, working for free for a bunch of pedophiles, scammers and AGP degenerates. Lmao.
>>2867493All I'm hearing is that there's no defending how much Thunderspy messed up the game so you have to deflect to Homecoming instead.
>>2867513Both servers suck, you console warring retard. If anything, Rebirth is the only good private server, despite being dead. Maybe stop glazing the incompetent scammers of Homecoming and think before posting.
>>2867523>Both servers suck, you console warring retard.Are you actually retarded or did you just reply to the wrong post? You don't seem to realize just agreed with the premise of my post.
>>2867523labyrinth of fog and a moba mode are incompetent? plus the mole machine taskforce. ( all the work of a single kamidev) labrynth of fog is one of the best raids I have seen in any MMO full stop, sits along with uldur, kara and delubrum reginae ( the goat)
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>>2867376one of like three distinct instances of people not being able to hide their powerlevel for ten fucking seconds ended up poisoning the well hard as fuck.That said the overwhelming majority of the game's audience are hardcore redditors so they were never going to move from the herd anyway and frankly no one would (or really should) want them to.
i liek base building
>>2848723which server has the gigaboobs mod?
>>2864860sour grapes
>>2869921Thunderspy
When homecoming gets custom MM minions and the extra outfits tspy has ill ditch the server. Until then nah
>>2870893>nahnigger coded
>>2867419Why are you screenshotting out of context comments? How can you possibly shill this hard for a private dead mmo server?Not that anyone should bother, but you can easily search the screenshot and get the context of sarcasm. What drives you to behave like this?
>>2870973+5 4chan rep
>>2871028>What drives you to behave like this?You know just as well as I do that the answer is always autism, followed closely by boredom.If they actually played the game on any server, they'd be posting about it rather than dredging up /v/ tactics.
I want to talk about the labrynth of fog and the amount of tanker crashouts i've seen it cause.
>>2871028>but you can easily search the screenshot and get the context of sarcasmWhat sarcasm? Maybe screenshot it yourself.
>>2871554Why can't you be the kind of autist that does something cool or useful?
>>2873829You're being a manchild.Just undo the changes. They make no sense.
calm down threels
Here, let me show you what is going on>People actually start discussing City of Heroes>Showcase changes Homecoming made to their server like the new mode>Post about the random game design breaking shit Thunderspy is doing on their serverAnd Thunderspy's retort is this:>>2844546>>2871028>>2871043>>2867493>>2873829>>2874192Apparently if I actually liked CoH I'd be shitting up the thread instead of actually discussing the servers.
>>2874183Random 45% debuffs aren't real you sperg. It's sad that the only thread discussion for this dead game is littered with autistic throat goat fags like you.Enemy Ai doing something aside from standing still and getting killed is actually fun. If a stray enemy is killing you, You have a bad build or your tanker is asleep at the wheel.
i still want to talk about labrynth of fog . is anyone playing on the public beta? Is the hall of agony open yet? What does the next branch of the raid entail.
>>2874819This again.I actually checked to see how that post was "sarcasm", there was no indication of that anywhere.This is exactly why I wanted screenshots of the TS discord. I wanted posts from Thunderspy supporters so you couldn't just say they were fake or that the playerbase liked the changes. But you're going to pretend they're fake anyways.>Enemy Ai doing something aside from standing still and getting killed is actually fun.Sadly the game isn't balanced around the enemies moving around. Also, players don't seem to think so.>It's sad that the only thread discussion for this dead game is littered with autistic throat goat fags like you.What's really sad is that you're whining like this because someone is shitting on your server.Screw it, here's the problem with all your changes:>Healing aggro makes sense!The OP Defender/Corruptor sets are stuff like Kinetics, Cold Domination (Sleet is cancer), Time Manipulation. Meanwhile a lot of heal sets suck. Empathy specially sucks. You're nerfing the bad sets and leaving the overpowered ones alive and well.Before you say Kinetics got nerfed, it didn't. Fulcrum Shift was nerfed but it came with a buff to a different power that you get earlier, so that change just makes leveling smoother. Kinetics is pretty much unnerfed.That's another problem. Support classes aren't uniformly healers unlike other games that have a strict DPS Tank Healer formula. You have supports that don't heal or crowd controllers like Dominator/Controller. You can't just slap WoW heal aggro into the game because its not another WoW clone.>But ranged enemies kiting you rocks, its reactive AI!This nerfs AoE damage as ranged enemies will duke out of it.It also mainly hits Scrappers. Tankers/Brutes have Taunt, Stalkers have immobs/high immediate damage, Ranged classes have ranged attacks.This is similarly funny to the AoE damage nerf because Blasters were buffed to have the best AoE damage. You're just shitting on the hero classes.
>>2874917Nerfing kinetics is like when Project M nerfed Fox's Shine, its a change to what the community is built around and can only be purposefully to shoot themselves in the foot. Is time control mega buffed on Tspy? Its considered bottom 5 on HC>players complaining about mobs moving those players should shut the fuck up. Sounds like the people who complain about knockback. Occasionally there is a bad knockback sure but its a powerful CC otherwise. my blaster out controls many controller players with the power of KB bonfire essentially not having a target cap. >healing aggro, tankinghealing aggro is fine I guess? Does it not already exist in the game? The vast majority of people who roll tankers and brutes are entirely incapable of playing the role and if you invite them to defend peoeple you are better off running with less people. Its insane how frequently i have to tell two tanks not to stand on top of each other.>empathy getting huge buffs on HC soon
Heal OtherNow has an "overheal" Absorb Shield that lasts 10s.Animation changed, reduced from 2.27s to 1.17s, and now applies the healing earlier in the animation.This converts any healing beyond the target's Max HP into an Absorb layer at 50% of the heal's strengthFor example, if you heal for 30hp and your ally is at 80/100 HP, you will heal the 20 and the remaining 10 / 2 = 5 Overheal shield.If your target is at full health, they will be shielded for 15 Absorb (30 / 2 = 15) Healing AuraNow has an "overheal" Absorb Shield that lasts 10s.This converts any healing beyond the target's Max HP into an Absorb layer at 50% of the heal's strengthFor example, if you heal for 30hp and your ally is at 80/100 HP, you will heal the 20 and the remaining 10 / 2 = 5 Overheal shield.If your target is at full health, they will be shielded for 15 Absorb (30 / 2 = 15) Absorb PainNow has an "overheal" Absorb Shield that lasts 15s (yes, it's longer than the others)Duration of self-debuffs changed from 20s to 15sAnimation changed, time reduced from 2.27s to 1.87s, and now applies the healing earlier in the animation.This converts any healing beyond the target's Max HP into an Absorb layer at 50% of the heal's strengthFor example, if you heal for 30hp and your ally is at 80/100 HP, you will heal the 20 and the remaining 10 / 2 = 5 Overheal shield.If your target is at full health, they will be shielded for 15 Absorb (30 / 2 = 15) Clear MindNow a 15' radius targeted aoe. The mez protection stacks only on the primary target.Now grants non-stacking scale 2 Psi resistance.Animation time tooltip changed from 1.0 to 1.1 seconds (the animation didn't change, the listing was wrong).
ResurrectAnimation time reduced from 3.2 to 1.67 seconds (cutting dead time).Now affects all dead allies in a 15' radius around the target.Now grants a scale 2 absorb shield for 90 seconds.Now grants a 50% recharge buff for 90 seconds.Now grants a 50% recovery buff for 90 seconds.Empathy_Fortitude.png FortitudeIncreased the duration from 120s to 180s.Increased the damage buff from scale 2.5 to scale 4.5.Animation changed, time reduced from 2.27s to 1.00s.Now provides resistance to regeneration, recovery, slow, tohit, and defense debuffs.Editor's Note: Forge and Frostwork will be looked at later in terms of this new balance point for "Rolling Buffs" with this uptime. Recovery AuraPulses the buff over a 10 second window, making it easier to tag allies. This pulse moves with you.Animation changed to be different from Regeneration Aura, and reduced from 2.03 to 1.0sIncreased radius from 25 to 30.Reduced Endurance cost from 26 to 13.Reduced recharge from 500 to 360.Reduced recovery gain from 200% to 100%.Now grants a 30% recharge reduction buff.Now grants a scale 0.25 endurance discount (37.25% on defenders).Now grants resistance to -End and -Recovery debuffs. Regeneration AuraPulses the buff over a 10 second window, making it easier to tag allies. This pulse moves with you.Reduced recharge from 500 to 360s.Increased radius from 25 to 30'.Now grants scale 1 max hp (133hp from defender).Reduced regeneration from scale 5 to scale 3.75. Max HP increases regeneration amounts, so total regeneration is roughly the same.Now grants resistance to regeneration debuffs. Adrenalin BoostNow can be cast on dead allies, restoring them to life before applying the effects.If used on a living ally, they will be automatically revived one time if they die during the duration.Animation changed, reduced from 2.27s to 1.17s.
>>2875040>Nerfing kinetics is like when Project M nerfed Fox's Shine, its a change to what the community is built around and can only be purposefully to shoot themselves in the foot. Oh sorry I thought your HC posts were a falseflag. Good to see we have a genuine HC player.
>>2875058I mostly liked the high quality ERP until i got kidnapped by some aliyah queen of the damned looking vampire bitch and forced to try +5 , now I am one of if not the best fire blaster on the server. +5 difficulty + all the changes they made to enemy groups + the new content set ( KW repeatables, incarnate repeatables in Cim, Labrynth Repeatables) is very addicting. PvE was borring as shit during the launch incarnate meta. Players were too strong. The game is super fun now. My original main has maybe 120 vetran levels, i tripled that in like a month when patch 28.3 came out. I see other people using my hyper agressive combat teleport playstyle ( Combat teleport is like crack to a former league of legends player) , i have people whispering me 'when did they buff inferno' too bad they are gonna ban me soon for asking tanks to tank lol. Also i enjoy fire blasting so much that its pretty hard to make alts.
>>2874917It's literally explaining values to a guy who used google AI for answers, literally anyone can waste their time and do a discord search. If you actually played, you would know that there are enemies that stack massive debuffs on you. If can't read that as sarcasm and immediately go with the idea that random high debuff values were added show you're a disingenuous faggot.if you think heal aggro is nerf, maybe you're just bad at an already laughably easy game. Do you not build smashing and lethal defense to softcap? Are you so bad at the game that even the most basic tenet escapes you? at low levels before level 20, you can easily get up to at least 15% values on both. When you samefag you make it kind of obvious, this thread isn't that fast
>>2875156Here's what actually happened>New guy asks if the cap for dodge chance is 48%>Other people ask him where he got that from>He says he asked AI>Other people correct him>Akaiku chimes in to mention that dodge chance debuffs are too goddamn high>Context: Thunderspy changed the Reflexes armor pool so it has some resistance against dodge chance debuffs, and had to adjust things in the rest of the game for that change
>>2875210So ITF doesn't exist on all servers and serves as a test of your survivability particularly punishing defense only? Super Reflexes was changed because it is a defense based set that notoriously has a cascading failure once you start rolling bad, It existed on live, it exists on any server that hasn't touch super reflexes. This is such a weird lie to double down on. The game wasn't adjusted. If it was, surely you can provide some proof other than your ass right?
>>2875274That's a screenshot of the entire conversation, it seems to back up my interpretation. Not sure what to tell you.Anyways, serious question. Don't you find its a bit sad to go>IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE CHANGES YOU ARE A RETARD FAGGOT THAT DOESN'T PLAY THE GAMEThen step back, and go back to chatting on a server where a lot of people that also don't like the changes?
>>2875287Your interpretation is that random high debuffs were added, so because said debuffs were added the entire of the game was changed to make up for those debuff. Somehow the people who have added the most technical improvement to city of heroes since its live days, majorly fucked up a simple damage formula. I'm the only autist retard left talking to you. The MMOventure guys moved on. This thread is dead and it is just me and you. I was just trying to see what's even the point of you being this retarded and making up nonsense for an audience of no one. Any ways, next Thunderspy update is looking neat for costume options hope you actually check it out instead of the weird shit you do now.
my staff/SR tanker is turning out nicely. When i finished my custom build i ended up not at def cap but with the capacitiy to spike up to max resistence to everything, even toxic. Turns out with incarnates i am at defcap, at least +4 defcap. The bits of regen i get from incarnates are noticable and were sorely needed >>2875210shout out to the guy who vibe coded Sidekick with AI - its super nice to have a web based character builder and it includes Tspy along with HC
>>2875040maybe HC nerfed it into the ground but Time Manipulation was always very strong on live because it was a P2W set
>>2875932/time is one of the best sets on homecoming for most classes it's available for, no idea what that guy is talking about to be quite honest with you
>>2875939I know Leo made an OC Time secondary for Blaster that was ridiculous
>>2875946yeah time manipulation blaster was ridiculous when it launched. they normalized blaster sets pretty close to launch. My first main post relaunch was an energy/time hoverblaster. judge dredd as a time cop with nulith upgraded power armor>>2875932p2w is not a great arguement, its not like dual pistols was ever good. Bio Armor, Savage, Titan Weapons, sure. Staff was never good either>>2875939I usually play on everlasting ( what was once the RP server, now the gay server) but i went to Excelsior (what was once the PVP server, now the PvE tryhard server) to ask for advice on super reflexes and they started ranting about how bad time manipulation is. I agree that it is not a weak set, the minor +def it adds is noticeable on my characters who need it. I think the logic of the sweaty gamers is that /time is a jack of trades master of none type set. its debuffs are not as good as radiation or cold, its healing is probobly the worst of any set with a heal other ( besides peacebringer and maybe poison?) , it gets several low impact CC moves ( these are better on controller than defender but they dont do damage+CC like storm) . Its a versatile set but these days the metagame wants specialists. I think support powersets are the one place the game has seen power creep.Force Field, Sonic and Traps are all getting buffed next HC patch alongside Light Affinity coming out. Force Field is gonna be super nasty now.
Repulsion BoltIncreased damage from 0.2 to 1.0Reduced base accuracy from 1.4 to 1.2 (Mastermind was already this value)Increased Recharge from 4 to 6Reduced Endurance Cost from 10.192 to 5.2 Personal Force Field10% of this power's effects are now passive. This means Defenders get 7.5% Defense and 4% Resistance. The passive part is not enhanceable.This power also grants a passive +5 Max Endurance.Dispersion BubbleReduced endurance cost from 0.52 end/sec to 0.4 end/sec.Detention FieldNow gives a scale 10 unresistable debuff to regeneration, recovery, and recharge (PvE only), in order to really lockdown and freeze an enemy. This only applies while the target is untouchable.Can now be used on allies, giving them scale 9.5 DEF (ALL) and scale 9.5 RES (ALL) for 15 seconds. The recharge of the power increases to 150 seconds when used in this manner.Force BombDamage increased from 0.6 to 0.9Recharge reduced from 30 to 24ForceField_RepulsionField.png Repulsion FieldReduced Endurance cost from 0.65 end/sec to 0.32 end/secRepel strength now scales inversely to the distance. It used to be mag 10 for the whole 25 radius. Now it is mag 10 within the first 9', mag 5 up to 15', and mag 1 up to 25'. This makes it more predictble in terms of placing enemies right at the edge of the field.ForceField_ForceBubble.png Damping BubbleIncreased -Strength effects from scale 1.0 to 1.5 (except for Defense strength which goes from 0.5 to 0.75)Now also gives targets a scale 0.5 -Tohit Debuff, Defense Debuff, Regeneration Debuff, Perception Debuff, and a scale 0.1 slowNow grants allies a stacking absorb shield while they remain inside it. It stacks 4% absorb per second, capping at 8% absorb. It will rapidly recover upon taking damage, and fades away 2 seconds after the bubble ends (or upon leaving the bubble).
Sonic BarrierNow grants scale 1 resistance to tohit debuffs and scale 0.75 resistance to defense debuffs Sonic SiphonActivation time reduced from 2.17s to 1.67sNow grants the player scale 1.75 res(all)Increased scale of RES debuff from 3 to 3.5Now gives the target a scale -3.5 penalty to debuff resistance (ToHit, Slows, Regeneration, Recovery, Defense) (PvE only), uses Res Debuff modsNow gives the player a scale 1.0 resistance to debuffs (ToHit, Slows, Regeneration, Recovery, Defense) (PvE only), uses Res Boolean modsSonic HavenNow grants scale 1 resistance to endurance and recovery debuffs.Sonic CageNow gives a scale 10 unresistable debuff to regeneration, recovery, and recharge (PvE only), in order to really lockdown and freeze an enemy. This only applies while the target is untouchable.Can now be used on allies, giving them scale 9.5 DEF (ALL) and scale 9.5 RES (ALL) for 15 seconds. The recharge of the power increases to 150 seconds when used in this manner. Disruption FieldThis power can now target enemies in addition to allies, and will linger on dead characters.Reduced endurance cost from 0.52/sec to 0.34/secAnimation time reduced from 2.7s to 2.0s (cutting dead time) Sonic DispersionIncreased duration that effects linger after leaving the bubble from 2.25 seconds to 15 seconds.Reduced endurance cost from 0.52 end/sec to 0.4 end/sec.Sonic RepulsionReduced endurance cost from 0.64/sec to 0.52/secAnimation time reduced from 2.33s to 1.6s (cutting dead time)Remove the endurance cost per target hitNow deals vectored knockback at a diagonal angle to minimize scatterNoise when hitting a target toned down drasticallyNow is autohitNow also has a Silent FX option with no hit sound at allNow has a 25% chance for a mag 2 holdNow takes Hold sets and Controller ATOs
ClarityNow is a targeted AOE, but effects can only stack on the primary target.Now grants non-stacking scale 2 Psi resistance.LiquefyReduced the recharge from 150s to 120sNow gives a scale 2.5 max hp debuff inside of the patch, non-stacking
>>2876077Dual Pistols was pre-Freedom, part of Going Rogue. Staff Fighting was anomalously underpowered for a post-Freedom premium set
I'm happy for all that but HC is raping the already precarious balance of the game.
>>2876096this change is completely fine. Sentinel being above dominator for awhile was bad. Kheldians need it. Arachnos characters might benefit the most from this change.Blaster will still be king. I still think they deserve a higher damage cap due to how defiance is a damage buff now. I hit the cap with build up + aim so I rarely bring kinetics and when I do they often CBA to buff me, they dont prioritize the highest damage dealers they just do whatever they want lolGo ahead though, how is this going to disrupt the balance of the game?
>>2876118The reason this change is needed is because the whole 5 star shit shifted the meta and classes with lower DPS were getting canned. So this change is just the devs giving up and turning the game into a damage race.Btw look at the description again.>as well as AT pets and henchmenA T1 MM Pet now has the same damage modifier cap as a full blown Novaform Kheldian.
>>2876140>giving up and turning the game into a damage race.You say that like they were previously doing anything to avoid the damage race in the first place.>oops brutes vastly outnumber literally any other AT even when you remove firefarming characters>better make tankers do more damage than brutes>oh wait now everyone is playing tankers instead>better buff brutes so they do more damage than tankers
>>2876153this is true, the flip flop between brute and tanker has been annoying. Everyone is gassing up brute now but desu the majority of people who love both of these classes are failtanks on both classes. Most of the community thinks Brute>Tanker again, in my experience they are wrong and bad>>28761401-4 Star TFs did not shift the metagame, people built gimmick compositions to deal with their ludicrous damage and mechanics. Outside of that optimal teams were Blasters, one tonk, tons of corruptors. Somehow defender became much more meta between star releasing and the next era of the server. +5 difficulty did shift the metagame - notably due to buffs to many enemy groups made over time. Single Target damage is strong again, CC - no one is effective at playing these classes. I know all of two people who are STRONG on dominator and they both are serial alt-holics. One of them keeps playing their tanker, they are a 10/10 dom but a 7/10 tanker. The other guy is possibly the best player i know in the whole game and can play anything. A good dominator is great for a team.Controller is a bit weird due to needing two of them working in tandem to be effective. Buffs to their pets have shifted their meta. The popular meta pick for controller for a long time was dark/dark/dark but now gravity and pyrotechnic have very strong tier 9 pets to micromanage and Plants and Gernade Launcher have very strong stationary pets . More skilled controller players exist >>2876140common novice mistake to think that everyone who runs 4star is doing it with a speed running composition and that speed running is the meta. It is not. MM has gotten much stronger over the course of HC. Both kinds of kheldian are an incredible class if you are willing to play intelligently. Too many people REEEEE about infinite changlings instead of just spending the 20 minutes to set it up and the X hours to learn to play it, its very fun after that.
>>2876153>better buff brutes so they do more damage than tankerslol not eventhey barely buffed brutes, instead they straight up lobotomized tankers and removed 70% of their damage to turn the entire archetype into a useless joke class againmy farm clears with tankers went from 2 minutes to 8 minutes on the exact same map with the exact same trio and setup. i'm lucky i don't really need inf anymore but still
>>2876507tanker has great ATOs and the best defensive stats, plus 5 man punchvoke. Do you only solo or something? You are right that brute didn't get much, higher resist cap
>>2876650if anything playing in a group makes tankers even less relevant since barrier exists and enemy groups get cleared so fast that "fat guy taking an alpha" doesn't really matter anymore, they just have zero purpose in the current ecosystem of homecoming's design after having the only thing that made them relevant removed again (their damage and cones)
>>2876675- the newer content set enemies don't die that fast- many mobs are set to spawn in places where I cant just combat TP and inferno them to one shot everything. Sometimes i can solve this with fold space, often times nah- it sounds like you haven't played homecoming since 28.3 when they added +5 difficulty- in hard content if you are taking an alpha you are bad at the game and thinking about the game wrong. Don't let the enemies alpha. You can disrupt this by herding, by throwing a basic frag gernade, or by pulling with CC and debuff effects. People who think they are supposed to take alphas are the same people who i say ' think they are tankers but suck at their roles' . You should just play scrapper if you just want to do damage. Even if I delete two spawns it usually leaves a few bosses/EBs left over and its the tankers job to hold those mobs while everyone else kills them while I go do it again-barrier rotation is a speedrunning 4star strategy, no one actually does this. I do want to try barrier regen tanker at some pointthe new meta everything is more relevent than just aoe. These days if players find something faceroll/braindead like PI council farms then the devs buff the mobs
>>2876719>it sounds like you haven't played homecoming since 28.3 when they added +5 difficultyi'm on there every other day and none of this shit matters because half the team is just casually throwing out barrier buffs and nobody ever dies even on casual slop servers like everlastingthey designed themselves into a really retarded hole with the way incarnates work, the only challenge they can implement are boring instakill ffxiv-style mechanics otherwise everyone can just ignore it by pressing barrier. 4-star content is riddled with dumb gotcha mechanics because of this
>>2876727NERD is that you?
>>2824272Nobody cares about this except you Leandro >officially licensed private seever>muh sekrit club Jeeeeeej 8 years later hes STILL at it the collosal faggot
>>2865112This is not news, they bring up this ancient drama like it happened yesterday. Nobody cares everyone moved on but them, forever salty and angry about it very sad.
>>2879538>officially licensed private seever"Trust us bro. We said we were licensed, on our forum!" >>2879553They apparently use HC donations for luxury stuff as well as child sexual content and not just AI gens or hentai.
>>2879559I mean im not one to flog a dead horse, but I find it kinda incredible. I parse the GTA spam on /v/ crawl through the gacha mines and slop to rediscover an old gem on the catalog and its like no time elapsed at all, here they are again back to their old tricks pretending anyone gives a fuck or should give a fuck about their fucking sekrit club but them, and then shoving it in everyone elses faces its just obnoxious. I dont care about this fucking drama byt they act like it was yesterday how the source code got leaked and they’re still trying to steal players from other servers by being ‘officially endorsed’, gaslighting bullying mockery and lies.
>>2879570anon homecoming has all the players , it would take 60 more copies of tspy+rebirth+cake to stack up to the HC playercount
homecoming is master race
Reminder that those who played the sekrit private server got away with it, wanted to keep it sekrit and begrudgingly play with you.
>>2879642The sekrit server was only made public because someone ratted them out for being shitheads and bogarting the code and account info from Live.
crying about this drama when it was new was journalism, now its just liberal behavior
>>2842588brand ecch momentthat fucker needs to be killed
>>2879861Kek, same with Dispari and Katzen.
Don't care, love my gravity/time controller on cocksgee, having fun aoe farming with my gravity singularity
>Spend years complaining about IO Set effects, Incarnate abilities, Fulcrum Shift, Hasten, and how the balance of the game is ruined>Proceed to refuse to nerf any of those things>Decide to nerf dodge chance from 95% to 90%>A bunch of people like Normal Guy decide to quit the serverAre you going to DO anything or just whine about game balance?
>>2881584as a purple throating blaster i think my dodge chance should be 98%
>>2881584homecoming +5 meta is good anon. good luck getting crackheads to stand still long enough to fulcrum shift them
Homecoming can barely be called proper City of Heroes anymore. From the terrible balance butchering, addition of new powers that are broken and the "new content" arcs that are low quality, middle schooler who just discovered Random XD humor and Deviantart-tier bad in terms of quality. Homecoming is like those WoW private servers that add ridiculous nonsense, but at least the WoW servers do not pretend to be officially licensed and canon to the real game.
>>2881702Homecoming:>adds +5 difficulty to every piece of content in the game. Tuned around players having incarnates and set bonuses instead of being arbitrary numbers change. suddenly CC tanking and ST dps are relevant in 8 man door missions, the core of the game>players farm council endlessly, so they give council mobs more abilities to not be free kills>inventive new enemy group with a mob that buffs its team mate to have reverse aggro order>new content like Dr Aeon strike force with cool fighting game refrences to things like the Street Fighter 2 beat up a car mid stage, or non euclidean geomtery in vampire saviors >the nemesis mole machine mission where you fight your way through a train >garbage aura>38 man hazard zone raid, maze within a maze, multiple secret areas, a hazard zone within a hazard zone, a boss arena, and a brain bending puzzle that unlocks the grey inspiration. Thunderspy>cool MM customization and cool emotes>bunch of inventive powersets and powerset changes near launch, most subsequent patches have been toning these down instead of adding more experimental stuff >lol nerfing dodge . players hate d20 lets move to a d10
Oh and by the wayPets still get stuck on stairs and random level geometry. If you go to a cave map then they get stuck on nothing. Senpai has shared stats on what characters have hit level 50 and Mastermind is still a bottom pick. All that effort doing MM customization for what?>inb4 but pets teleporting to you!!!Actually run Mastermind in a team (Imperious Task Force is great for this, a lot of early missions are in caves) and see how it works out.
>>2881976pet customization applies to all pets, including Control, Patron, and Lore petsMMs are a bottom pick because they are ultimately a mostly passive playstyle, and people play games to have fun, not watch their pets have fun and throw out some buffs every now and then.
>>2882018>passive play on MMis the equivlent to a tanker thinking>its my job to soak the alphaskill issue. brain issue. I got jumped in to max difficulty content when it was added in 28.3 by a support main. they started with a dark x3 controller, got my RP alt to 50 , then piggybacked off me to level a demons/thermal mastermind. Holy shit I have never seen a player use mastermind so well. They would not chase me to heal me but if I teleported 6 times to get back to them they would heal me right away. Watching them micro their pets and switch between buffing, attacking to throw -res around , healing. Its a thing of beauty to see someone play characters like dark x3 or demons/thermal , super vesitile characters, and consistently make the correct decision when they have so many options to fuck up. Shifting in and out of bodyguard mode, using micro to body block mobs. Insanely skill expressive. Only seen two players that are actually good at Dominator and I have like 700 vet levels
>>2881926Homocoming shills desperately making stuff up. Tldr
>>2882223Here's your patch notes, its all in therehttps://forums.homecomingservers.com/patch-notes/Feel free to point out what didn't happen
>>2882122yes, top tier players can squeeze a lot of fun out of any AT. But Mastermind in particular lends itself to passive play more than any other, especially in the vast majority of content you'll do up to 50. And even with active play, it's still suboptimal since big chunks of your DPS gets deleted by a big AOE from an AV.Conceptually, it's really fuckin cool. But it doesn't mesh well with the rest of the game as it's designed.
>>2881926>>inventive new enemy group with a mob that buffs its team mate to have reverse aggro order>>new content like Dr Aeon strike force with cool fighting game refrences to things like the Street Fighter 2 beat up a car mid stage, or non euclidean geomtery in vampire saviors >>the nemesis mole machine mission where you fight your way through a trainAll bad fan fiction-tier writing of the lowest quality, made by people who barely understand how to work the CoH engine. I have seen AE missions made that were both better scripted, balanced and written. But yes, I am sure the epic may-may references like fighting cars and THE BEES and Rick and Morty quotes and quirky chungus nonsense like in the Buzzsaw arc, or the blatantly unfinished arc where you lose to Crey in a legal battle and they copy a Champions Online story arc and design, is just the bees knees. Also, the entire car fight with Golden Roller is literally reusing a NPC quest giver from Cap au Diable. Princess Zoe is a shit character, the Aeon strike force is a humiliation ritual for anyone with any memories of Live and the real game made by Cryptic and Paragon.
>>2882240Not clicking that IP grabbed lil buddy
>>2881926>>adds +5 difficulty to every piece of content in the game. Tuned around players having incarnates and set bonuses instead of being arbitrary numbers change. suddenly CC tanking and ST dps are relevant in 8 man door missions, the core of the gameFun fact, the game was never balanced or meant for everyone to be full Incarnate with nothing but ATO and IO sets.
>>2882280the aeon strike force is the best TF in the game after ITF , fuck off. Zoe is very good too and they both mog market crash. Admiral Sutter is #3
>>2882280>literally reusing a NPC quest giver from Cap au Diablehey it was great when CoV did it with the Radio.
>>2882291yeah and that is why PvE was pretty borring on HC for the first 3-4 years 4star and Itrial are fun but i consider them gimmick content compared to taskforces and repeatable door missions
CoH was never a hard game and the content is braindead easy
Again, I think discussing game balance is pointless then no server actually wants to do anything about it.>But Thund-They're too scared to do anything because their playerbase will just leave.
>>2882312Tspy just made one of the most far-reaching and boneheaded gameplay changes any of the servers have made since the source code was released.
>>2882292Please, adding an OC donut steel girlboss character that EVERY Gold Bricker from every dimension/reality instantly worships and respects and obeys, a character who is written to mostly say things like "Mrgrgr", "Mrgrgr... Our next move should be to kick their butts!" and of course who could forget "Mrgrgr... come on, Smelting Arms, don't fail me now..." I would not be surprised if Zoe is like Blackwing, some OC donut steel made by one of the people doing their best to be "devs" for Homecoming in some sort of weird power trip/fantasy to make their girlboss manic dream goblin real. All Homecoming did was ruin the mystique and cool concept of the Gold Brickers, making them into witless clowns and yes men to a girlboss.>>2882293CoV also was made by actual, professional game developers and professional writers.
>>2882322Which is?
>>2882327the animation unrooting and AI changes that made ranged enemies start kiting
>>2882325I don't care about Zoe as a character, i care about the gameplay. Going through the dimensional portal to nazi earth and a earth where hami wins is fucking cool. non euclidean geometry is cool. exploding brickernauts in 1 star is cool. fucking hate smelters and i think sonic gernades should be smaller.Blackwing was made by cobalt, cobalt also did labrynth of fog, zoe tf and is doing the new moba mode. I remember when he was just some guy shilling his comic book ( not really shilling, just mentioning it in his bio) in pocket d. They added sheathed weapons as well. Truly a kamidevcompare that with viridian, whos work is good and infrequent and violet who is the one who added the god awful dating story arc you strike me as the type who would not admit that homecoming did anything good if they did anything good
>>2882740>and a earth where hami winsOh hey, we get to go back to Praetoria after we mess it up and kill their Statesman? Nice.>you strike me as the type who would not admit that homecoming did anything good if they did anything goodYou have low standards.
>>2882759>low standards lmao, you are so assblasted about the badass 38 man raid you wont even mention it. When was the last time thunderspy even had 38 simultaneous logons?
>>2882781>Oh this guy thinks I'm retarded?>Better start shitposting and vindicate himWell done. Anything else?
>>2882782name one good thing homecoming has done, i have named good things thunderspy has done.
>>2882804>name one good thing homecoming has done0-cost & fully unlocked basebuildingit takes days if not weeks to make something that actually looks nice, adding tax brackets and obscure unlocks into it is just ball torture
>>2882902>Cheat mode and bypassing progressionLol
>>2883184not all hurdles are worth having
>>2883323Explains why the Everlasting player base keeps dwindling and the remaining players just ERP, Goon and collect names as they sit in hideouts and Pocket D all day.
>>2883575that's just how post-covid population counts work, nothing that spiked during lockdown years ever kept its metrics afterward and it leads to constant false positives like yours
>>2883664>like yoursI have no love for any of the private servers. Each private server has flaws that remove it from the beauty of the original game.
>>2883703i just find jeering about popcounts post-2023 to be very low hanging fruit, homecoming has plenty of faults that mostly all lie in having a really shitty narrowminded dev team that refuse to onboard new talent for whatever reason. they never add new models or outfits beyond lazy ass recolors because they just don't have anyone who know how it works and they refuse to bring in people who do - that's what makes me sick of their shit personally, if we're airing grievances
>>2883323Have time and money sinks is a good thing. Removing them turns the game into what modern retail wow is
>>2883868having to do base itemization unlocks is goofball nonsense because you still need a head character to hold each basecode/group tag; for every group which has a base, i would then need to create a new character, do the missions or processes to unlock the building kits for whatever i'm making, spend x amount of time arbitrarily firefarming, and only then can i begin building as i would normally within 5 minutes of making a character on homecomingit is such an unnecessarily restrictive process that so few people engage in even without cost associated to it that it just becomes a totally unapproachable system at that point. i would be willing to bet significant wages that neither rebirth or thunderspy have bases anywhere near the creative level as those on homecoming by result of this, but i haven't personally checked in awhile>tl;dr free artistic expression=good thing imo
>>2883899"Having to play the game to progress is goofball nonsense! I just want to ERP in Pocket D and build bases!"
>>2883944you are in no position to tell me how to spend my time playing the game, sorry anon.i'd like you to instead post any pictures you have of bases that are worth displaying on rebirth or thunderspy, if you wish to prove me wrong and that people do in fact wish to engage in hours-to-days of grind just to interact with the base builder in a meaningful waybecause from where i sit, and i don't mean to throw mud with this, they all seem to be barebones like >>2788407 without any real effort put into them. i think both servers in question have created a wasteland of creativity in the attempt to remain loyal to a broken system
>>2883944>>2883970>i'd like you to instead post any pictures you have of bases that are worth displaying on rebirth or thunderspyi'll add stipulation that this deadline closes in about an hour btw, just so we don't end up in a funny scenario where you show up four days later to throw something out that was rushed together to make a point
>>2884162Not interested. I could post the best base ever and you would still find a way to say there are better on Homecoming. Arguing with you is pointless and depressing.
>>2883899Just play Minecraft at that point
>>2884173something that's simply more than a typical rectangular default base room with props smattered around is enough. surely rebirth and thunderspy has that by now, if people are so committed to "the beauty of the original game" by merit of wasting days or weeks leveling a character for the privilege of even learning how to piece their legos together, right?if not, then i've no choice but to assume you're talking out of your ass when you tell me that there are people who engage in "The Grind" simply to operate the basebuilder to any relevant extent.
>>2884256I don't think there are many people on Tspy who are really into basebuilding desu
>>2884294it is as if there is a gate which keeps them from engaging with it freely, whatever could it be?that damned homecoming is behind it, surely
>>2884304look, as far as I know, the only restrictions Tspy has on base building is larger plots still cost prestige and you need to get the exploration accolades for the teleporters to work. But I don't really know how it is compared to Homecoming because a) I don't give a shit about basebuilding, b) I don't give a shit about what Homecoming does, and c) I don't know if there's anyone on Tspy who DOES give a shit about basebuilding.
>>2884343fair enough, i suppose the friction mostly comes from rebirthposters but i am actually curious to see what sort of builds they have across the pond some day with all this blustering about the old ways and inaccessibility being such a grand thing
>>2884256>>2884304>>2884423NTA, but anyone who tries to discuss anything that is not Homecoming on here gets spammed with your arguments, copy and pasted patch notes and often repeated opinion touted as fact. You do not want discourse or people to talk about different servers, powers or even the Live game. You just want to talk about how great Homecoming is and bring up the server as often as possible.
>>2884589>the Live gameare you schizophrenic?
>>2884598The Live game was an entirely different game compared to the current versions, thanks to SCORE meddling with the original source and not releasing the original build that Leo was given.
>>2884632oh, that's fairi've genuinely run into schizoids that insist The Live Game is still being hosted somewhere lol>You just want to talk about how great Homecoming is and bring up the server as often as possible.but to answer this, not really. homecoming absolutely has its faults ( see >>2883715 ) - this started with >>2882804 asking about One Thing homecoming did correctly, which in my opinion is removing the gatekeeping from the basebuilder and another anon out of nowhere (this fine fellow >>2883184 ) playing peanut gallery with all bark and no bitesorry for the misconception, i'm not whoever you thought i was
>>2882902Other server have that, it was part of the score build they all started with.
>>2886988Thunderspy manually reverted the code to i24.
>>2888311The feature was moved to "player apartments" it's the same thing. It is an account wide personal space that you can edit freely and store items in. The only different is that HC has access to donated models that were removed.
I figured i'd post this here in the slight chance anyone here is interestedone of paragon studios unreleased games was just found in the steam leak, anons on /v/ were really interested in the game because they didn't know who made it but we know paragon made it now, and there is some gameplay here from a dev https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4g6VLPXkty8the actual game isn't playable yet, but I think some people are working on getting it workingalso, do any of you have the city of heroes 2 leaked doc? I was looking for that and realized its not on the web anywhere anymore
>>2889109>also, do any of you have the city of heroes 2 leaked doc????are you sure that's a thing
>>2889376https://www.mmorpg.com/news/the-game-that-never-would-be-leaked-documents-show-city-of-heroes-2-concepts-2000100716
>Girl steps into Thunderspy's server>acts like a brat for a bit>Server Owner is already getting conniptions over her and saying he hates herWhy is everyone in this hobby socially stunted?
Why does MM feel so useless
>>2891667>Girl
>>2892122what server?
>>2891667>Server owner megalomaniaSounds like Leandro
>Thunderspy has new locked costume pieces that are only detailed in the patch notes>Said patch notes don't exist or were deleted>New players have no way to learn what the required badges areNigger server.
>>2902050Rent free
Holy shit this ended five weeks ago and you fuckers are still console warring
>>2902969New MMO chosen sucks, rather bitch here
>>2903793The clique loves their weeb games when they can make cute anime girls
>>2902969>IT DOESN'T MATTER>still gets madhmmm
>>2902050This is legitimately pathetic behavior, Do you even play any of the other servers?
Do niggas really?
>>2787889God, I got nervous for a second, and thought you guys were on fucking Homecoming, honestly regret my time there.
>>2831131Wild to me, I remember seeing a lot of ageplay characters but you'd get banned.I fucking wish I bit the bullet and fucked them, shit is so fucking hot.Homecoming is a bunch of niggers.
>>2931812>bannedYet thundertards have been reposting this image for years as if its the average HC experience
Homecoming has content lol I'm on homecoming
>>2934797Are you on Everlasting, do you need a list of known ERPers?
>>2935019no, i need people who are decent at the game to grind LOF withyears of no new content made people play badly
>>2935019>a list of known ERPers?post it anyway
>>2787934kino
