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>What is this?
Korean anime-styled battle royale with moba controls/skills. Currently 8 squads of 3 for a total of 24 players per game but they may bring back solos and duos in the future. Game has been in early access for a few years and version 1.0 has officially launched on July 20th, 2023. Ranked season 12 will start August 2026.

>Steam Link
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1049590/Eternal_Return/

>News
https://playeternalreturn.com/posts/news

>Eternal Return 1.0 Animation Intro (Full Ver.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqDLrvrl_p0

>Dr. Nadja's Beginner Guide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3tDK2EcO80

>Match History, Character Lookups, etc.
https://dak.gg/er
https://er.op.gg/
https://aya.gg/

>Interactive Map
https://erbsmap.com/en

>Items/Tac Skills/Augments
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ic5jNlJ1-mXmchfRrws2UZMto1bQI_6ToqsvejFvEjE

>Lore
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1McyWxKYdtUD3rC8zsLMfFOvbHI6jC_1okGU_6kKJVh8/htmlview

>Assets
https://playeternalreturn.com/fankit

>Events
https://playeternalreturn.com/posts/news?categoryPath=event

>Codes
https://gall.dcinside.com/mgallery/board/view/?id=bser&no=9719379&page=1

>/erbs/ friends
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uI9BFNFkW4qm_t9cUDe88heLs7smSydSCs55NZIn-Ww

>Previous
>>2611661
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>Eternal Return Season 12 Preview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbWbB1OKd_M

>Season 12 Sailing - Eternal Return
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgNLq0PJq9c

>[New Character] Craver - Eternal Return
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzdNdEuBucM
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>>2784820
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY5LhjaJwNg
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>losing her stealth engage next patch
L-Ly Anh love...
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>>2792006
>Dagger
>Cloak and Dagger
>Increases movement speed for a certain amount of time.
>Move behind a targeted enemy, dealing skill damage and true damage proportional to the target's current HP, and slowing them.
You got a overtuned glove weapon skill with speed boost and even cc in one single click
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>>2792006
are there more of this style?
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>>2792012
Yeah but the spooky stealth surprise was fun.
>>2792016
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/104052326
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>>2792022
neat, how come I never seen these on twitter
damn, and he chose the worst skin
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/glZG_F93-zc
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFM2lJbnhVM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRFrjdqzY48
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dll3PF1kJfA
Incheon team are nothing without Luminal
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>>2792102
you say that but luminal's new team is right down there too
KEK
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>>2792104
>Already #2 with a new team in the first season
>Raped Onecircle everytime CNJ and co wasn't around to C for position
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>GC Busan Stella
Sexsela boost too strong
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https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxmD5kqtqSqo0U-oMocafMsgPqQeEymIFf
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8st7o5nyg7k
SAILINGD3NIAH
new code
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https://x.com/K_meng1105/status/2083945627319472471
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>>2727234
>Adogna: "What happened with my token epic skin?"
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>>2792006
Ly Anh!
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Who decided to put this fat pig in a swimsuit?
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>>2794081
ME
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friendly reminder that Niah is 148cm (3cm taller than Leni, 1cm shorter than Bianca) but has a G cup.
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>>2794226
Niah and Mirka are womanlets, bwo
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>>2794226
What an unfortunate body type. What's it even good for?
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>>2794254
standing paizuri, grabbing them as handles while fucking her (anal), and using it as face rest while you lay your head on her lap
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>>2794239
Imagine being Mirka and standing next to Niah. I would kill myself.
>>
>enter norms as a gold iii player
>diamond, mythril, meteorite players in the lobby
that was harder than any ranked game I ever played
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>>2794763
Were you in this game just now? It felt very high level compared to my usual norms.
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>>2794804
not that one but i recognize some of the names from other games tonight, it's been pretty sweaty
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnO0_LGKDrY
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>>2795146
I've started spamming NiaH games recently because of this skin. I've always had fun playing her and thought she was hot, but my motivation is through the roof now.
>>
https://playeternalreturn.com/posts/news/3753?hl=ja-JP
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iy1K0kOP8c8
What a random stream
From what I understand, they changed it and the Doubledown token will only be usable by people in Diamond tier and below
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>>2795688
They changed their minds*
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>>2777685
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>>2792024
lol
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fat FUCK
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https://er-minigame.runelightentertainment.com/NIAH-SURVIVORS/
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>>2797371
imagine
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>>2797371
Oh I know about this guy, he made Flappy Sissela and Running Bianca
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https://x.com/globM0730/status/2084476676520734829
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https://playeternalreturn.com/posts/news/3742
patch notes
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Patch notes
https://playeternalreturn.com/posts/news/3742
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As always, they will take up to 30 minutes just to post the character patch notes
Even though they posted it for KR/JP/CN at the same time as Part 1
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>>2798592
https://playeternalreturn.com/posts/news/3743
part 2
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>Weapon skills can now be used while Possessed.
>Weapon Skill now grants 20 Invade gauge.
>Weapon Skills now also apply additional true damage in both Possessed and Ghost states.
LY
ANH
LOVE!!!!
>>
SEX
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>a million sua nerfs
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What's the shittiest rank out there? Every dia player I've seen think they're better than everyone but also cry the hardest.
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>>2798671
GHOST SEX ANF HUGS
>>
https://x.com/globM0730/status/2085188382251241588
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MT is over
>>
I think the event story just made a Lonely Island reference.
>niah wins a cruise for three
>starts deciding who to bring with both eleven and xuelin right there
>"First, Xuelin."
>"Annnnd.........Tazia."
>tazia appears for the first time in the chapter having never been referenced at all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avaSdC0QOUM
It's the opening scene here for sure. That's so funny to me.
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Celine announcer pack woooo
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https://x.com/Taenyaki/status/2085350577123512674/
Cute...
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FUCK YOU
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Any new season codes?
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Great now the winning animations makes the FPS drop
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>>2802984
Oh good it wasn't just me
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>>2803090
Yeah for some reason the game is rendering the victory animation in the highest quality possible
And the test subjects tab, is not optimized at all
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>>2802424
Oh god i am gonna be cumming buckets every match
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This is rigged.
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What's your favorite's danger level, bros?
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>Niah won the stage with 5 dice rolls only
Fuck this shit.
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>>2808446
S, and the only one at S iirc is Alex right now. He's too big of a threat to Lumia Island and Aglaia. By the way, I'm surprised the lab experiment Echion is B and Ly Anh is A. How do they even pacify this guy running amok 24/7?
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>>2808446
>A tier
Her personality combined with her VF ability is a really dangerous combination lol.
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>>2808446
All the characters I play are E level.
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>>2808931
Sexo
>>2808446
Hardcore sexo with meaty ghost claws on my skin
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https://x.com/TrivialDragon/status/2085542231306555856
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>>2808885
>Echion is B
I thought he'd be at least A.
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>>2811744
I fucking love magical girl(28) so much.
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>>2811744
Magical girl skins should be reserved for youthful characters like Eva.
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>>2810569
I figured as much or even S, but looking at his old black survival records, he got tamed by two brown hags so I guess that's that.
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>pick mirka after teammate locks craver
>land several multi-person ults and wait for him to ult too
>he ignores them all to solo ult someone after
>at one point he even solo ults a tank
Shame, I was kind of excited.
>>
>>2816513
Mirka Onee-san's healing handjob
>>
https://playeternalreturn.com/posts/news/3768
Magic girl was too strong
>>
I hate these Sua nerfs so much. Don't they usually shill the new costumes by buffing the related characters?
>>
>>2818945
They did buff her substantially. You're just in the pre-season period where buffs and nerfs come a plenty without them worrying about it destroying a character for ranked or not. They need data to test things out.
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kill all s*a players
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impregnate all s*a players
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>>2810569
>>2813733
Echion is literally retarded and gets carried by the robot arm, bwos
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOQGCiDOxmE
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I fucking love oppai loli so much bros
>>
>>2626164
>>2748571
>read black survival lore again
>jackie rough fucked hyunwoo
the prologue of chapter 0 makes lot of sense now
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>Age: 18
Heh.
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>>2820461
well, their own gov is clamping down anything even slightly ero so yeah
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https://playeternalreturn.com/posts/news/3764
uoooh
>>
https://playeternalreturn.com/posts/news/3761?hl=ko-KR
https://play.sooplive.com/afertv/296277441
up
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>>2820461
>white pantyhose
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>>2792598
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>>2816691
>Mirka Onee-san's healing handjob
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https://playeternalreturn.com/posts/news/3767?hl=ko-KR
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>>2802810
lol
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>>2821474
God shes so fucking SHORT
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I won a Mirka game tonight bros. c:
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>>2820461
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrZ9SY45QLY
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>>2823606
Figured she'd be an adc considering the musketeer talk. She's cute.
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I love おねロリ
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Surely the dice won't be rigged against me here right?
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>>2823689
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are they allowed to say youtube here?
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>>2823735
why not?
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>>2810165
>Hardcore sexo with meaty ghost claws on my skin
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https://playeternalreturn.com/posts/news/3769
patch notes
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>>2820461
>Wings of Light Slow enemy characters on basic attack hit (REMOVED)
THANKS YOU
And a good Coraline change, I like it
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>>2823756
Yes
>>
https://x.com/_ginboshi/status/2087010713181225157
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>Camilo's sister committed suicide after he ruined the relationship with her boyfriend
>Johann feeds Bianca with his own blood to don't starve when she's out of bags
>Jackie bathed and fucked with Hyunwoo in the pond
>Chiara was supposed to kill Emma for acting retarded but it's changed with Adriana
And the rabbit hole goes deeper than one could ever imagine
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Ly!
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Anh!
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LOVE!!!
>>
my dick ain't surviving that
>>
https://playeternalreturn.com/posts/news/3771
>>
I don't think 12.1 hotfix was so important that it takes 4 hours right during my primetime.
>>
https://playeternalreturn.com/posts/news/3773
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Maintenance is over!
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GOS12SAILING
new code
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>>2827617
Thanks Sissy
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Coming back to this game and surprised to see it still alive in the English speaking side of the earth.
When are we getting upcoming loli?
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>>2827837
Next week
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S12RANKFIXED
300NP Code
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>>2827617
>>2828134
this and this are 500 np, just need to get 300 from the drops and you get free bp
>>
>>2826514
>>2826506
>>2826500
SEEEEEEXOOOOO (surviving afterwards optional)
>>
>>2828134
Sex with sissela
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https://x.com/R_ea_v/status/2087850224161292712
classic not reading patch notes
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>>2828448
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>>2828499
lol
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6nSnIjiZbg
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>>2829324
neat
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Finally.
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>>2828255
>(surviving afterwards optional)
Not an option at all, actually!
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>>2831045
EVEN BETTER!
>>
https://playeternalreturn.com/posts/news/3777
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JdcF34UCYs
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>>2831675
Hm........sex.
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>>2821474
GOD SHE'S SO FUCKING HOT
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>>2831675
I wish she was the same height but tits as big as Sua.
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>>2832020
That's pretty much NiaH
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>>2832044
Need more exactly like that. At least 5.
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>>2832050
You get four BUT you can take one of the current female survivors and make her the fifth. Who will you choose?
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>Alright everyone, focus! The Leni's Marching Band performance is about to begin!
>>
https://playeternalreturn.com/posts/news/3780
hotfix
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>>2832063
>sua raped again
BASED BASED BASED
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>>2832060
I need to make Leni a mother of 12
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>>2832063
MORE,I want MORE SUA nerfs
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>>2832067
Finally NN admitted that made a character with free cc immune after use a skill without hit targets was retarded?
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Is this game addictive and toxic as dota or lol, or the fun is over the "competitive" retarded part?
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>>2832053
The cat.
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https://x.com/sa_nal__/status/2088074197486686609
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https://x.com/hugu_tora/status/2087998642980593856
nn you retard
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>>2832128
If you take the "competitive" side seriously you're a retard.
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>>2832128
The game is pretty toxic yeah, but the competitive scene (not western) is great. Everyone complaining about the esports is a permastuck dia thinking they're better than the pros.
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>anime game
>look inside
>pig game
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>>2833106
>If you take the "competitive" side seriously you're a retard.
The only good answer.
>>
Chiara?
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>>2833232
>gamer girls who never go outside all look like this
>we will never ever see them
>>
https://youtube.com/shorts/AfJtTyTBGDM
Man shit like this is so fucking good.
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>>2833767
holy kino. All according to keikaku. keikaku means plan
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>>2833570
>>
https://playeternalreturn.com/posts/news/3779?hl=ko-KR
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>>2834819
>Tazia
bitch is too hard for someone with no hands like me.
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>>2834819
>Tazia
bitch makes me too hard
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>>2834819
Sexo with this bitch
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>>2792012
>Dagger skill weapon nerfed thrice in barely two weeks
And some retards thought the rework was a nerf kek
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>>2835075
>slender yet plump thighs
yum
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>>2835094
I need to impregnate Garnet so god damn BAD
>>
There's a lot of streamers on twitch in EU now because of Coastal Clash and it's funny seeing how butthurt these guys are over some random e-boy from NA coming over to play with them.
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>>2835336
Who's the NA player?
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https://playeternalreturn.com/posts/news/3774?hl=ko-KR
https://play.sooplive.com/afertv/296370819
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Don't forget to check mail for ER letter personal code bwos
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>>2835741
I'm not your bwo, gwo.
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https://youtube.com/shorts/WGauQClxFVg
Holy shit the pro games are so awesome
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>>2835785
>I'm not your b-ACK
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Japanese JK
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Is that Leni bundle with the animated fire alarm emote gone for good? I forgot to buy it bros
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>>2837180
yep
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>>2837180
Yeah, even the sale period was extended a week more
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>>2837180
>>
https://play.sooplive.com/afertv/296396049
it's up
>>
it's really up
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>>2837615
>Drops enabled
Do I need to be Korean to get drops :(
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>>2837747
no. you just get a code to copy paste ingame. you can make an account with google if you must
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>>2837747
soop has english too btw
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How many mental illnesses
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>>2837879
I need to have SO MUCH SEX with Garnet
I can pay up the psychologist later.
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SURELY this time, I won't roll a 1.
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>>2837879
All are easily subdued when in the sheets.
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>>2837879
I can make her worse after a pregnancy or three
>>2838529
No no, i want to see all her mental illness in full display even while having breeding sex
>>
https://x.com/nico_nico_news/status/2088566651075571835
https://x.com/o00000000001/status/2088568616635748779
we made it
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>>2838771
My wife, Opal
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Aaaand back to coballz, if it pops.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtJl3rANl0E
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>>2838771
lol
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>>2837938
This fucking brat is cheating, jump pads send her forward 4 rows and back 1 row, you get forward 2 rows max and back 3 rows.
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>>2840790
And just when I said that, jump pad sent her 6 rows forward
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Dual cultivation in Xuelin's womb!
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>>2840811
i wish, but shes too autistic even for me
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>>2841185
>autistic
she gets tricked often because literally grew in a remote village away of many things in the modern world
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>>2841245
Can't wait to trick her into having lovey-dovey handholding mating press baby-making sex telling her it's a new way of cultivation
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nyaggers
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>>2837761
true
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Actually, it's my fault for picking with a silver Craver in mind and expecting him to try to get anything off my knock-ups. That was silly of me.
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>>2843342
Mirka owes me bed breaking sex
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>>2834819
https://play.sooplive.com/afertv/296453445
up
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>>2843756
She'd break you instead.
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https://playeternalreturn.com/posts/news/3782?hl=ko-KR
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/aLwnKdW8KI0
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>>2844030
God I fuckign wish.
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>>2841259
>Can't wait to trick her into having lovey-dovey handholding mating press baby-making sex telling her it's a new way of cultivation
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>ANOTHER swimsuit pass
how big is the discord meltdown?
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>>2845180
I mean, it IS summer after all
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>>2845180
Remember, these are the types of *cough* '‘women’' *cough* who constantly complain about gooner shit.
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>>2845229
@grok explore that gay "woman's" reddit history to confirm that "she" has posted on tranny subreddits
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>>2845180
Not much, some local minority complain and others keep playing while discuss about the balance/lore
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I just got to gold bros. Do I just casual norms forever or keep doing ranked?
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>>2845804
Every new season will soft reset your rank, play nyorms forever isn't a smart choice
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>>2845180
The whole point of summer is to have swimsuit skins. What did they expect?
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I love oppai loli so much.
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>>2845822
It just brings me down to silver, so I just go back up to gold and stop ranked.
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>the weak should fear the strong
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I only just now realized that this wasn't repeatable forever.
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>>2846073
Thanks for reminding me, finished too. Won the last two boards as well.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9yIViMZ2BU
Let's go bros
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https://youtu.be/NUhRdjfNcHw
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Patch notes
https://playeternalreturn.com/posts/news/3783
**MORE SUA NERFS**
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>sua nerfs
Very neat.
>ly anh nerf
Hey wait.
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They should just put Sua back to how she was in the last season.
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https://playeternalreturn.com/posts/news/3785
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>>2847668
FUCK THAT PRICE
I will not buy some meme fucking emotes for more than a pass
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Uhm guys
Does nobody play haze or why does nobody care about the fact that since her release ar skill is basically a wasted skill slot for her? Why wasn't ar reworked to work for her too? Or maybe make her weapon skill a unique one like Blair?
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>>2847821
mainly because her kit worked well enough
and ar skill does cancel her animation so technically it's a dps increase
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>>2847825
I mean, it's still a wasted slot. I even changed my late build to have tellurian piece, with it this skill feels at least not like complete shit. But it's still definitely wasn't designed to be used by her at all. A little knockbacking underbarrel grenade for weapon skill wouldn't hurt or be op.
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>>2847203
>Our love will be dangerously sweet
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>>2847681
Just luckshit 900 green np from drops.
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>>2848552
kill yourself I wanted 600 to buy the pass but it's not happening
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>>2848552
Oh so we have literal trannies in this general.
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Eternal Shitter
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>>2849462
Blue should give 100 creds
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https://playeternalreturn.com/posts/news/3793
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Did you guys enjoy the 24 hr lumi stream?
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>>2848271
Dear lord grant me strength
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It's up.
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>check arca
>see this
Weird warning, wasn't there a few hours ago either. I haven't seen what they're warning against.
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https://playeternalreturn.com/posts/news/3789
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>>2851059
read it, it's right there
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>>2851094
I never asked what the message was,
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Her AA and skill animations are so smooooooth.
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https://playeternalreturn.com/posts/news/3791?hl=ko-KR
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https://x.com/expo_6044/status/2090350362008166568
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https://playeternalreturn.com/posts/news/3787
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>>2851094
>>2851097
kek
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>yj wears
heh
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>>2847821
Haze has the best designed kit in the game honestly. AR only having the most mild utility on her is actually a strength for Haze rather than AR, because AR is the most boring and retarded weapon skill in the game that serves exclusively to make Isol and Aya even more obnoxious
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>>2854964
Some unique slot with little extra mobility wouldn't hurt, she's jumped on too easily
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>new yet another uninspired gun mage
>rank is ded
At least I got to gold in time
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https://playeternalreturn.com/posts/news/3795
new chapter
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>>2855562
I hope at least meido's skillset is interesting and she doesn't depend on her ojou being in the same team to have some unique extra buffs
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>>2855570
>she doesn't depend on her ojou being in the same team to have some unique extra buffs
that has never happened in this game
this is not dota they don't even have special composition voicelines
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>>2856103
You know they literally do right? Every character has special lines for location and who they kill.
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>>2857080
>special composition
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>>2855509
I think Haze is a lot better at dealing with that than other Mages, except Penrirs or Fagmillos
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>>2855529
she's pretty well beloved wdym. are you sad we didn't get another busted coraline
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>>2857080
>and who they kill
nah
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>>2857400
No she sucks, idk where did you get that idea. Short ass disengages that you basically have to combo otherwise it doesn't help much. W aoe is retarded and lets melees just walk beside you and just dodge if you use it straightly backwards, and if you want to hit with it then you use it to the side, and then you basically don't disengage. And again, having to use E before almost every W means that you won't have your kiting capability while you're moving away. And in Eternal Gapclosers that means you'll eventually die from the chase
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>>2857420
you literally have the voicelines available
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>>2849462
wtf is this real?
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>playing garnet
>spend an entire teamfight getting the life beaten out of me by superfed darko while my teammates kill his friends
>we all turn on him and win
I love pain!
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https://play.sooplive.com/afertv/296577161
it's up
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>>2863024
>garnet in my team
>chases backlines
>sucks if not even dies from it
>while melees beat our glass asses in seconds

I love Eternal NonPeeling
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Today's off-air coupon
YURTB0823
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Haven't played in a while, bihyung and craver look kinda fun, are either of them particularly busted or dogshit before I invest too much in playing them?
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>>2863774
Bihuyng is op and annoying, the only more annoying and strong than her is Vanya. Craver is erratic as hell but at least he requires some skill, but when you meet a good one you'll curse 10 next generations of devs bloodlines. Overall the balance is shit a always, the only past outlier being Vanya aka unkillable if you're melee.
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>>2863774
>Craver
He's harder to get a handle of as he's both a high skill cap and floor character but despite that he's in a decently strong state where you can slot him into almost any team as long as you have one dedicated CC character like Markus, Kenneth or anyone that can reliably knock up or away.

>Bihyung
Too many nerfs to the wrong aspects of her kit that worsened her itemization crisis so she's not very pickable, imo. Like, she'd probably outperform other bruisers if both had access to blood tier items, but without those she is just ok. Pick someone else that can do more with less.
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I hate this so much.
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I hate this so much.
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>>2863024
>garnet plays non tank build
>still tankier than most tanks
>can't interrupt her w with cc
oh ok
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>>2857663
She has initial great range and her W isn't hard to hit even if they're on top of you. Her E has a short CD and lets you damage while kiting + her AA gives her a speed boost. You must really suck at Haze to think she's on the lower end of Mages for dealing with gap closers.

Also
>you HAVE to W after E
Bro you just suck
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What do we think of Blair? I think she's got a god tier design wasted on a boring APM slop kit.



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