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The Las Velias Strip Edition

>What is BDO
Black Desert Online is a Korean MMORPG developed by Pearl Abyss. It features non-tab targeted action combat, RNG, guaranteed upgrade mechanics after you spend 4 times the item's worth and then they give the item away for free, more RNG, brand new fun pvp modes trust me, open world pvp and bullying/getting bullied, coomer outfits like slutkinis, shondoms, real rootin' tootin' American cowgirls, monkeys, infinite grinding in a circle or a private circle, +5% AP caps, RNG and a pseudo sandbox experience that doesn't matter now that marni exists.

>News and Updates
https://www.naeu.playblackdesert.com/en-US/News/Notice
https://www.kr.playblackdesert.com/ko-KR/News/Notice
https://www.sea.playblackdesert.com/en-US/News/Notice
https://www.global-lab.playblackdesert.com/News/Notice

>coupon codes, gear builder and grind spots info
https://garmoth.com/
https://bdolytics.com/en/NA

>waste your money sheets
https://bdoworkshop.com/


>guilds
NA: Jealousy
EU: Cuties (dead)

previous: >>2711165
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>>2818583
Pass, SMASH, smash, pass, PASS, pass, pass, SMASH, pass, smash
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>>2818583
the combined trashiness of this screenshot is off the charts
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Are these the best pve crystals?
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nice stalwart fortitude
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>>2818642
Yes, but when I am over cap I will go to something like this, starting with subbing in the Olucas first and then the HAN BSR when I'm really over cap. Also, the lack of symmetry on your middle row is very triggering.
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I can't remember the last time I succeeded a tap
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Not for sure what to do next.
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>>2819191
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>>2819191
Get to 427 DP as soon as possible so that you can do the Jordine, otherwise you're missing out on one Piece of Edana each week. That means get the rest of your Slumbering Origin armours to Silent, make sure to use all your free crystals here from Dark Spirit's Greed, Seal of the Undying, and the Olvia Academy Coin. That will get you +18 DP, so you'll be at 421. Then you need six more, for which you'll need an Exalted alchemy stone, preferably Vells, for +4 DP then the last part comes from one TET armour.
The pity amounts for your armours have been reduced just recently so you hopefully will get all the TRIs without too much struggle. You can save silver on the TET taps by using the Silent Crystal of Origin if you would alternately be buying vendor Crons, so I would get to preordering those now, but it's generally not worth using the Fragments due to the cost of Magical Shards.
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>>2819191
You could start by giving me a thigh job.
Then i'm guessing you're around 1400-1450 total AP or even lower, but that's no problem when you can grind hexe at 3.5b+ an hour. You can go the self made route and enhance your accessories to NOV 1 by 1, or buy PEN debos. I'd buy the PEN debo neck when it's so cheap, the average cost to enhance OCT->NOV is about the same but not guaranteed.
After neck get earrings first on the off chance the enhancing materials from edania 2 can go on the market, giving you another cheap enhancing option (although it's going to take you a while and edania will be out by then, so you'll know if this is viable or not.)
By the time you reach 1500 total AP you should get better armors and grind DSR. With agris it's decent and you get kabua artifacts. Tungrad too decent.
Upgrade path looks something like this:
-khan heart until you get vell (lmao gl)
-3x SEP accessories +3 AP (skip if going for PEN debos)
-HEX weapon +2 AP
-DUO/TRI armors
-OCT accessories +5 AP
-SEP weapon +2 AP
-NOV accessories +7 AP
Something like that. Didn't write about artifacts in case you wanna buy them whenever. Also just go to BDOworkshop and put your gear, it gives you a more precise upgrade path with silver per AP
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Finally got my full dec acc set.
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>>2819321
>>2819332
Interesting. I'm at 1318 before buffs. I may go for the armor's first. I have 98K crons left if that amounts to anything.

Regarding Hexe, wdym? Only Hexe I know of has very low level undead there except for the ones on the cliffs that spawn from the tombstones. What is DSR? What is and where do you get a Khan Heart? And what good are alchemy stones? They seem to only last like 5 minutes for a buff? Seems wasteful to me and annoying to use. Also, is Jordine difficult? I don't really do bosses very often except the rift ones.
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>>2819703
>98k crons
98k is a lot at your AP/DP level, just don't use them for armors. Those pieces of shit are notoriously cursed, buy armors from the market.
>hexe
Hexe sanctuary inside elvia realm. Go to the marni realm version (the instanced one) and aim for 35k trash/hour. The money here comes from the despairs, the yellow crystals, you get 30-50 every hour.
>DSR
Darkseeker's Retreat.
>khan
Central market, buy for around 3 bil. It's the blue one that says 'destruction' that gives you AP and attack/cast speed. Yes it lasts 5 minutes, but has a charge of 150. You turn it on from your gear window and it stays on. Once those 150 charges are spent you can recharge it, you don't have to buy a new one. Most alchemy stones work like this, including vell's heart and the more expensive stones you see on the market that go from 30b all the way up to 1 trillion.
>jordine difficult?
Not if you have the gear for him. Depends on class too but overall easy like all the others.
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what do I do from here?
saving up to enhance the armor to X?
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>>2818642
More or less? 100% immunity at the spot you're grindan at, maybe attack speed in places where you're overcapped or don't need resists, Dusky Ruin has a lot of defense on it, and HAN Macalods aren't as particularly useful after they put severe diminishing returns on every spot, which might as well be a hardcap.
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>>2819912
Where you are now a couple of people on youtube have video guides on gearing, check out Biceptimus or Choice.
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>>2820666
just started loml, seems I still have to do all the story quests at grana and odrax
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>>2819912
you should read up on the hypaboooost first.
I think you get a full set of the next armour tier for free, so don't waste your mats enhancing the tuvala up to X

https://www.naeu.playblackdesert.com/en-US/News/Detail?groupContentNo=10364&countryType=en-US
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>>2820812
He'll get a +3/Silent armor if he upgrades that to DEC fully, assuming it's still worth the material cost. If it is, he can melt down the one piece he doesn't need from the Black Shrine rewards.
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im in love with my character bros
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Need to get someone to enhance for me because my RNG is ass
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>>2819191
Disgusting character, you should kill yourself NOW

But if you choose not to, just PUMP IT on hexe and buy your silents or pen debos. You should probably get a khan's heart too, but that's another 3 weeks. And start working on your journals, those are free stats.
But i'd rather you really killed yourself.
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>>2820666
>>2820812
many thanks, that link was easy to digest
got to this so far but I'm about to run out of fund to repair durability
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i need to get hex on my subweapon to reach 385ap for orbita boss, this shit is so annoying
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>>2819191
>>2821108
equip a fukken tome you cheap ass niggas
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>>2821137
it doesnt do anything
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>>2821142
it gives soul

and there are different tomes you can get that increase rewards of combat experience or contribution experience and stuff
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>>2821151
All garbagay (garbage and gay)
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>>2821167
soulful and wholesome
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>allergic to books
yep its an everage BDO player
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>>2819848
Khan's is actually 7 bil on the market right now in NA. That will have to wait.

>>2821046
I started journals but a lot of them want me to do content that I don't really want to do, like join a guild or do a bunch of life skill stuff so I've been ignoring most of them.

>>2821137
I have a Chenga tome but it's on an alt atm.
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>>2821623
You can get Khan's from doing the guild boss with your guild, much better than buying it. Some guilds are casual and others expect things of you, but you're missing out on a lot by not being in one. You could even join a guild for a bit then leave when you get your Khan's and if you get tired of being in one.
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>>2821623
Kamitani ahh character
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Hmm today I shall rape a Shai.
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ranked AOS when
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>>2821652
Maybe, but guilds and I do not mesh well together, so I prefer to stay away from them.

>>2821682
I unironically like his art.
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>>2821799
unironically probably not until 2027
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>>2821814
That's why we got Jealousy you can participate in the few things we do per week, have a source for advise and place to talk shit or just ignore everything including guildchat. The only thing that might happen is twice a week a platoon invite popping up for Vell/Guild bosses as we invite everyone that is on.
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>>2821819
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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get rich or die tryin' homies
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>>2822361
It's such a shame they replaced the Forgotten Limbo Token with just a box, but haven't done anything more with the Erekhans.
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>>2821861
how do I apply?
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last time i had fun was at elvia saunils competing for the elite rotation
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>>2823234
I completely jumped over Elvia Calpheon, I spent a long time at Jade, then went straight to Crypt and Dehkia Thornwood.
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>>2822980
Find it in the guild finder or easier send a quick tell to Novahk, Jussieu or Seruki. One of them should always be on.
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>>2822437
I imagine it's ostensibly something they could revisit down the line like with Star's End and Sycraia. Honestly I see a lot of grind spots potentially shifting if they're getting rid of Elvia realm.
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>However, as this title is a reward intended to honor adventurers who have reached Level 70 through long gameplay and effort, it is not awarded if the level was achieved by obtaining additional experience through the Secret Book of Concentrated Balance or Combat/Skill Experience Exchange Coupons.
stupid niggers get fucked, massive W
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>>2824760
Yeah a surprising, pleasant and hilarious note
I didnt even expect them to keep logs of that shit for so long
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>>2824760
time to find out who the frauds are
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ggez lol
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When is the Pit of Undying revamp
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>>2825227
No date specified, unfortunately. Also, not sure if it's a revamp or just adding higher tiers
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>>2825227
who actually cares about pit
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>>2825296
I love armpits.
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>>2825296
You once it gives 1000 crons per clear
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Don't forget to use your Banquet Platters if you haven't done so yet, I think they expire with this maintenance
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Gigagord? seriously?
Is he the final form of the Hobo-Bat?
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>>2824724
I don't think they're getting rid of the Elvia spots, just the way it is done currently. Perhaps they should just go back to the old system with specific servers having regular mobs and others having Elvia mobs.
Whilst we're on it, I still maintain that they really missed the ball by not having the Calpheon Shrine and Crypt have Elvia versions, both are lore-wise exactly the sort of places such corruption would effectively take hold.
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not to be confused with Gigajord
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>>2825845
I really miss questing with Jarette and Isobelle.....that was peak mmo questing
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Why are some reforge stones so expensive all of a sudden?
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>>2826222
It's 5 per to get the new upgraded ones after tomorrows patch.
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These forced scarcity updates are the worst. 90 hours in altus plateau literally hitting scarecrows just to get my ekleta earrings to OCT... just let me lifeskill bro
Worst of all it serves no purpose, choice will be done in a month anyway and the rest of the casuals like me will still have unfulfilled preorders by december. It's worse than weekly gated content, at least that takes 15-20 minutes to complete. I killed 99 mobs in the past 30 days, mostly by accident when riding my horse. Are you seriously telling me i have to grind? Are we back to armor flames and all that shit, but times 6? Fuck. You.
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>>2827137
Why do you care if you dont play the game
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>>2827137
you're completely irrelevant, shut the fuck up
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>>2827137
truth nvke. grindsissies are happy to get another hamster wheel, meanwhile everyone else with a life can see what bullshit these new spots are
>>2827208
whites have the ability to care about things outside their sphere of concern, rajesh, without having to worry about an izzat score
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fishniggers getting uppity after getting their hyperboost welfare check
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>>2827459
You're addicted to afk cookie-clicker dopamine in a korean mmo that you dont even play
Subhuman in every sense of the word
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>>2827137
If you just want to lifeskill then you can happily ignore these new spots and lifeskill away. Grinding new items to improve gear is always how it's been if you are with or ahead of the curve.
>>2827459
>bringing up race
Fuck off loser, noone wants you or your pol shite here
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>>2825845
Jarette turns me on. Imagine what the guards at Calpheon did to her while she was in the gallows.
Each taking their turn with a supple Serendian Princess. I bet they ran a whole train on her at the command of some perverse noble woman that liked to watch.
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>>2827877
Motherfucker, this isn't Game of Thrones!
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when will this game get an actual graphical update? the textures trying to hide how polygonal everything is are really showing their age now. or is that asking too much of a billion dollar company?
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>>2827913
>or is that asking too much of a billion dollar company?

They're afraid people with lower-end computers might be unable to play the game if they made a graphical update to Unreal Engine 5.
Keep in mind Pearl Abyss really is an expert at burning graphic cards if it wants to.
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>>2827877
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>>2827919
what a shame, guess I will try out the certain new upcoming mmo that will not be named after all
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>>2827947
>certain new upcoming mmo that will not be named after all

I bet it will be mobile-veiled as PC only and with a fee to use chat and market options.

The truth is that none can replicate the program Black Desert has. It's the ONLY action mmo that works. Rest don't even try because they don't know how too. It's Pearl Abyss best kept secret.
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>>2827919
the game isnt even made with unreal engine
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how do pvpheads play neutral? every high rated player i see has effects turned off and playstation 1 graphics, so what tells are they looking for? or is neutral in this game more like staying protected while throwing random cc's hoping one sticks?
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>thought of topping up to buy the 3000 pearl returner pack that gives you 2 free outfits and 3200 pearl cashback
>forgot about it
>maintenance wiped it off the shop
phew that was close, the korean almost had me
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Hope you like shitty jump puzzles bros
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for the gather chuds
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>>2828336
>2 free outfits
>free
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>>2828336
jej I just used spare pearls from the several 1+1 events over the years when I returned
works on my machine
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>>2828686
what is this shit even for? just those crappy potions?
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>>2825845
>>2825907
>>2827877
Jarette is used goods and taken. Twice even.
>>2828180
I mean kinda? There's always two levels to neutral, the one that comes naturally with experience and when you actually know the ins and outs of the game. So when you're against a dosa and you sorta know when to throw a skill that's experience. Now when you can reliably catch him, you probably know exactly what is happening. I'm vagueposting because it depends alot on class and what approaches you can use.
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ummmm endgamekekbros, these earrings aren't dropping very fast...
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>>2829352
welcome to agris ricefields motherfucker
time to farm for 500 hours
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>having fun exploring
>see cool tower in the distance
>unreacheable from the ground
>reach the top by gliding from the highest mountain
>black hole explodes and kills my horse
>teleported into high end mobs attacking me
s-sorry... i'll stick to autopath...
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wow thx PA
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>>2829634
pfff I got 3 x 170 FS
absolute useless
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>>2829660
i feel better now thx
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If I convert my DEC Kharazad whilst tagged do the new accessories become automatically un-tagged?
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>>2829753
yeah, happens with every gear upgrade
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>>2829760
Yeah, I was just hoping they might have done it differently this time. Oh well I need to combine my Vells and my Splendid Alchemy Stone of Destruction anyway
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pooperion
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been doing a lot of Mirrowak Labyrinth lately for the title and I never bothered looking up the loot I got if its worth anything....
so today I thought I'd check and holy fuck this shiny stone goes for above 3bil and Vercedes drops one almost every run (once I even got an additional one from Murrasto)
So I've been averaging at around 2bil/hour?
crazy

How many of these do you even equip? Why's this so crazy high?
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>>2830798
just one per lightstone set, and its rare
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fffffuck you fuck you fuck you
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Why is upgrading Slumbering Origin to Edana armour timegated again? Not so much the stones than the actual quest to exchange for the pieces.

>>2830798
Iridescent stones today are typically used in lightstone sets for life skills and specialized PvP cases, and you only really need one; it does nothing on its own than act as a catalyst for some stronger combos. It used to be a possible drop from Dark Rifts and species damage used to relevant until some changes happened, but currently these are only obtained in now lower-end grind spots, and if you're doing PvE then everyone and their mother is running Vicious Shadows if above the AP cap.
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So uhm werent we supposed to get exp faster now?
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>>2830798
I've been getting a lot of them from Quint and Muraka after their changes. Most of the best lifeskill combinations use one, plus all of The Wild for PvE. The demand far outstrips the supply so they're a nice bit of income.
Are you saving up the trash loot until you get the title you want?
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>>2831940
stronger mob, higher exp, faster level
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>>2831940
No, this update had the level cap but no exp revamp yet. Around september IIRC when you get lodseexp for random shit including NW
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>>2832003
I sell the vendor trash, the rest I dump into storage. Should have sold the embers and flames tho....they just became completely useless ne?
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I used one of my Venatrix boxes for my Drak... worst mistake ever I have a perpetual boner now.
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>>2833294
proof?
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>>2833620
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>Nearly all channels are crowded now
Alive game?
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>>2833851
yeah but instead of the constant whining about the game being dead we now get constant whining about lag at world bosses.....
the eternal duality of the mmolet
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how do i see when the guild house auctions will be active? it says every 2 weeks but how do i know if its a week or two weeks away
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>>2833819
I meant proof of the boner
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>>2833892
I like it when world bosses are laggy cause that means there are a lot of people playing, and that makes me feel good :)
>>2830798
A couple years ago I found this group of people who'd run murrowak in a party and split up servers. They figured out they could prime a server by doing a certain amount of phases then repeating on other servers, so they would assign each member a small list of servers to hit up, then grouping and going down the list one by one as a party after a certain amount of servers were primed.

The whole thing from start to finish would take about an hour. I did it a couple times with them and it was usually 1 per hour or every other hour and other people would get 2 pretty frequently. This was when they were only maybe 1.2-1.5 bil or something. I lost contact with them though and I don't remember how to do it, I doubt anyone does it or would want to do it these days anyway. Murrowak was such a cool and underrated spot too.
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So many people aren't good for the game.
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>>2828689
you get back the pearl with extra after 1 week, it's free
save the part of buying pearl at the beginning of course
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>28 hours grind to pity pen earring
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>>2819688
Very nice! just in time to upgrade them and start the acc grind all over.
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>>2833294
I saw this tanned Drak wearing Venatrix in Angavu
>>2835413
Oh shit nice one dude! Where can you grind now, Agris or Markthanan?
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>>2835413
Congrads!
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>>2835419
I am doing Agris spot until I get the crystal. Probably could do Markthanan spot now thought.
>>2835425
thx c:
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>>2835452
Nice one, yeah I reckon the crystal is worth staying for, it might take a while to get the BON without it. I haven't got the old HAN yet but I think I'm gonna skip the remaining 64 parts that I need and go straight to Agris, at least for a few hours, and see if I can make it work.
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How? Who? Why?
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>>2835595
There's nothing stopping you from going there right now and trying to kill the mobs. Mr. Rapolas was on stream today in a 5-man party at Event Horizon, about 400 AP under the cap but still perfectly capable of killing the mobs.
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>>2835640
>need 5 people
>perfectly capable of killing the mobs
I'm just wondering who would even sell this after going through the trouble to get it
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>>2835595
>How?
Autism hardcapped before Edania part 2 released.
>Who?
The ones who were hardcapped before Edania part 2 released.
>Why?
Why not? they are already at their max possible price and they obviously don't care for stats anymore.
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>>2835595
Is this reason enough to hold off on NOV Kharazad to Ekleta upgrades for DEC instead?
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>>2835419
Sex, rape even.
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Fuck this basalt bullshit, PA really likes to fuck over lifeskillers it seems
Not gonna touch that without them adding at least x 3 the amount of basalt per channel
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i quit sometime around guardian release
is it worth coming back and would i be able to catch up? do people still karmabomb?
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>>2835179
>save the part of buying pearl at the beginning of course
retard
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>>2835804
I think it's definitely worth coming back, the game is in a great place overall.
Catch-up mechanics give you more than ever, you can get to really rather high gearscore now in a short time.
I haven't seen a karmabomber in years, but I expect they do still exist here and there.
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>>2835804
just grind arsha
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>>2835862
>>2835957
thanks
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>>2835804
>do people still karmabomb?
what is left of OW pvp is pretty much the last 5 perma red trannies attacking tuvala timmy alts at world bosses or camp new player grind spots like Honglim with their fully buffed 900GS chars and that's it.
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>>2836001
yah Edania 2 is super peaceful with everyone just staying in their lane and pveing like good little carebears
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latelet newbab returnee here, when do I graduate my first character? old info says level to 61/62 and get pen tuvula before graduating, but we get that by lv 60 now. and what do I exchange time-filled fragments for, what to get from season special gift? anything else I should do or be mindful of before graduating?
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>>2836431
>old info
most of the info out there is useless/harmful with how fast things change. 61 is a good place to graduate though. Graduate asap as soon as you're comfortable though.
>what do I exchange time-filled fragments for
I'd just hold onto them until you get into high level enhancement where you'll want to use them for valk's cry. The other stuff is fairly easy/cheap to get via other means once you get into the game proper.
>what to get from season special gift?
Capotia used to be the go to but they've been obliterated by hyperboost kharazads, I really don't know now. When in doubt just hodl.
As long as you completed your season pass you should be good to graduate.
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>>2836013
Edania is awful, and I pity the bosses; the players there are horrible.
You know something is wrong when the Tuvala Timmies prefer to side with the bosses than with the nobility of gamers.
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>>2836431
>season special gift
failstacks, only those
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>>2836470
thank you very much. can I hoard everything for now and graduate then? I read time-filled's get nuked if you don't spend them before graduating. anything that might brick me if I don't do it before graduating?
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>>2836502
>I read time-filled's get nuked if you don't spend them before graduating.
Old info, they're permanent now and you can move them freely between characters and warehouse. If you need more you can make another seasonal chara, you start with 2 tickets I believe and more can be bought with loyalty points.
Seasonal used to be literally seasonal but its been changed significantly so its just all year round noob containment zone.
>anything that might brick me if I don't do it before graduating?
Not that I can think of. Escape and do Academy+Hyperboost asap. And get yourself in a active guild, preferably one that will carry you through HM Boss Blitz.
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>>2836502
Not really, it's just those stones. Hoard anything beside trash loot for now and you're good.
The flow chart is: Season -> Abyss One (Vell) -> Olvia Academy and you're good.
Pen Tuvala is now the same as Pen Boss and you get base Fallen God Armor from Olvia.
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thanks bros
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>>2836554
>and you get base Fallen God Armor from Olvia
iirc these are from solo boss blitz log and might be a bit too much for someone fresh out of seasonal
but should be very doable after getting sovs
I don't remember if there are prereqs to the log or black shrine though, does the LotML questline need to be completed?
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>>2836593
>might be a bit too much for someone fresh out of seasonal
They made them so easy I can do them in 30sec with Tuvala alts.
>does the LotML questline need to be completed
Possible but I wouldn't be surprised if they just hand it out loml MSQ 2.5h or so of r-spam
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People who made these stupid as platofrming challenges really think they deserve to live
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bing bing wahoo!
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Is it really that bad to buy vendor crons
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>>2837849
Yes its much better to sit on 500b doing nothing for you
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>>2837849
wait until the night vendor event and buy all the crons/gamba boxes
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>>2837933
When is the next one due? In like 3 months?
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>>2837960
I'm betting on 2 months. I seems like we have them 4 times a year now
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>>2836013
No one has any reason to step out of their lane anyway, there are a lot of servers and grind rotations and a lot of spots.
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>>2837610
I had it knock me off the platform when it moved, these are mega gay.
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>>2836593
>do loml quests need to be done
Don't think so anymore. Which is good as its the worst questline in the game by far.
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>>2838201
I liked it
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i used all my hammers trying to dec my necklace (14 total) and failed. should i wait for more hammers or start spending silver on crons at around 12 bil per tap
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>>2838774
I doubt there will be many more hammers for a while given what we've just received from the ball. The necklace is definitely worth getting to DEC, as the materials to enhance Ekleta are the hardest to obtain, but current advice would suggest that Earrings and possibly Rings are not worth getting to DEC.
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my class is a fucking endangered species but people still S rank it wtf
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>>2839152
same
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>>2839201
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>>2839152
What class? Also which tierlist?
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we are so back
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>>2840104
what the fuck happened in 2019
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Any new good fishing spots at edania2?
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>>2840447
game went free for a while and had shadow arena. i think dyrus and a bunch of other streamers were trying it out too at the time but i could be remembering wrong
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Sigh... I wish BDO was remade on the new engine and would have a complete power creep reset.
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>>2840447
Might have been the release of BDO Remastered, that caused a huge spike in players for a while.
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>>2835738
Perhaps but I can tell you that taking NOV Kharazad to pity is brutal af.
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>>2840865
I got lucky with my DEC necklace tap sometime earlier in the year. It's probably going to be a bit before I go tapping again but for now it's either getting bottlenecked by these new drops or crons. On the side otherwise is investing into HAN reforges, since I imagine percentiles on crit and back damage are probably more tangible of a benefit.
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>>2838774
they'll give out more welfare when players start to decline again, which will be sooner than you think
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whats up with this damage difference between crit and non crit?
isn't it supposed to go up for only 43%?
the back attack one is weird too
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>>2840955
Back attack is +50% dmg for the back attack and the 16% go on top so roughly 166% dmg dealt.
For the Crit we take the 166% back attack damage multiply it by the total crit modifier of 2.43 (crit adds +100% dmg and 43% mods on top)for a total of 403% dmg dealt.
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>>2841044
thanks anon, didn't know they had (real) base value
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>>2841068
Well that's why crit and back attack are such a big thing and it also explains well why it never feels like you take damage in BDO. You either get nuked or it's almost fully mitigated by gook math.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y18Uf8XyN-Q
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so not only are these genshit challenges the worst shit i've ever played, they're also buggy as fuck? bravo pa, truly a new low. i couldn't do this bad a job if i tried
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>>2841755
>the cutscene of the platforms moving starts playing
>lose control of my character who is standing on it
>I watch as my character falls off mid cutscene
>have to redo this retarded thing from the start
BRAVO WIDE J
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Day 31 - I am still trapped in the Bug Cave. At a certain time of day, the sun shines through a tiny crack in the ceiling and the entire lair is embraced by a golden glow.
How many times have I killed this bug now? I can't remember....will this ever end?
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Went to Agris for the first time, I died three times, all whilst trying to maid away my trash, and didn't once trigger the afk phase. At least I got my third map piece from my paint.
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>try rbf
>do 2 digits damage per skill to guys that have 20k hp
lmao
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how is your reforge stash looking?
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>i do shit damage
>my team is winning so hard that their team can't kill me
>get no reward from rbf
simply epic
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>>2843189
can't you just get naked
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>>2843227
still took too much time running to the other base and then jumping into an aoe to suicide with the whole team swarming the base with random CCs
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>>2843141
I sold a bunch of AP, DR and Crit ones as soon as the price hit 1 bil. Doing the world bosses consistently has paid off nicely.
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now that edania 2 was a big fat nothingburger, I demand 16 hammers and 100k crons as compensation for PA's faggotry
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>>2843251
you can't change gear in rbf
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Damn, +10ing my Chiro's cannon ate up nearly all the tidal blackstones I had stored up and I got relatively lucky on taps too. Didn't expect that this would be the bottleneck.
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At what point do I sell some? Are they likely to hit 6 mil again?
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>>2845363
You will need so many for the new stuff, under 10k it's just keep it as you never know when PA comes up with a new weapon upgrade that might need 10k of it.
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Who do I blame for this
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>>2845931
neat, I should finish up my batch and sell lol and keep some for me
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>>2845931
some south american reddit post apparently according to my guildies
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>>2846042
wait a sec, are you in my guild
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Chat are we cooked?
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shit is so fried fr on god
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A guildmate of mine that doesn't lifeskill was like "fine, i'll just make them myself"
He went to Bdolytics, expanded all ingredients used for harmony and cron meal and stared at them for a moment each.
Swapped to his fishing alt and went afk.
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>>2846955
its ok man they're going to give out welfare harmonies
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>>2846955
I don't cook but I do alchemy, looking at making Cron meals seems much the same as Harmonies, just with some recipes that are unfamiliar to me. Unfortunately I haven't invested much in cooking nodes, so my stockpile of materials to make Simple Cron Meals is pretty low.
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>>2846088
no it's been going around for a while and i've been told even the streamers were saying the same thing. speaking of bdo streamers, apparently there is also something going down with jenny or whatever openly admitting that she cucks choice i guess, but that made me a bit sad. i dunno i've been outta the loop for forever and came back for hyperboosties
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Even Marvelous Balacs sold out
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I think this market situation is one of the most interesting things to happen on the lifeskilling side of BDO for a while. Prices have all shot up so profit margins are better, and people who don't do this are learning what is fuelling their purchasing of buffs from the Central Marketplace. It's just a shame that I am going away for a week and probably won't be able to capitalise on the situation.
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>>2847830
ugh. sheer faggotry
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>>2847830
>it's AI
They spend 8-12 hours per day semi-afking, they couldn't put some effort on the banner?
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>>2847872
of course they'd semi-afk on the banner too
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so why are they so assmad? because of dispatch?
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if lifeskilling is so great then they're doing you a favor by giving you a reason to do it yourself now :^)
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>>2847830
neets on strike lol
what are they going to do? get a real job out of protest?
retardation is growing at exponential levels year to year now....can't wait for our AI overlords to put an end to it
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>>2847830
is this really the cause or is it opportunistic trolling or deflection? anyone could have generated this
the real issue is that everything got bought out and preordered to hell and it happened in completely different regions at the same time, now panic buying far exceeds the supply
Anyone can lifeskill and not all lifeskillers are part of some shadowy cabal, in fact its the playstyle that most lends itself to not interacting with others and just being a hermit
this might even be an effort to exacerbate the situation by trying to convince independent lifeskillers not to correct the issue by pretending its a movement
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>>2848191
>Anyone can lifeskill
that's a big stretch
it's mind numbing enough to deter a lot of people, actually i think only autists can bear with the lifeskill gameplay
they also made sure that to make actual stuff that people use all the time like meal you have to play the active lifeskill minigame, just afk-ing won't cut it as you'll have no ingredients
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>>2848191
>he isn't a member of the Blak Deserovski Life-Worker Collective Internationale
ngmi
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can't they just inactivate the communist prize-brackets?
This is one of these occasions where a free market would work it's wonders imo....
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>>2848294
that's an issue of want not can't, the game gives every player everything they need to start doing high level crafts and what skill caps exist are so low I can't even remember them. It's not like grindan where everything is capped and gated.
My point is that there isn't some fucking hard monopoly on lifeskilling and even if you do have some syndicate supplying 50%+ of the goods and they decide to turn off the tap in unison, people can seamlessly step into that role if they choose to, not to mention all of those who already have because they just like lifeskilling for the sake of it. Doesn't even take that long to get set up.
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>>2848317
There's a million things PA could do and should do because controlled economies only work when the people controlling it are...controlling it.
Instead we have a capped economy with a laissez faire attitude from up high and its total dogshit with constant persistant shortages which they "solve" with bandaid patches that come half a year late.
This isn't even as tricky as IRL economies to manage since PA could literally create shit out of thin air if they cared to, both supply and demand.
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>>2848191
The point is that PA fucked over lifeskillers because SILVER is useless now
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>>2848437
its just sub 1% of the population having a melty that their silver hoarding can't buy them instant endgame gratification this time around, this will blow over in a few days but we'll have a slightly more self sufficient population and higher margins on food so eh
The real lifeskiller apocalypse is still coming
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gatherchuds living in poverty making 650m/h since 2021
grindcucks running on buff fumes coping for a market improvement
barterGODS living the life, amassing bezos-level wealth with no need for buffs
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>>2848817
shhhhhhh
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>>2848817
>clicks buttons to get dopamine from pixels
>clicks buttons to get dopamine from pixels
>clicks buttons to get dopamine from pixels
Gods among men for suree
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>>2848878
but enough about 4chan
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Are they going to ban choice and all the players that fucked up the market?
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>>2847830
they won't do shit unless people quit again
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desu the top meal, which lasts 2hours and I don't even want to know all the shit you have to go thru to make it, beeing only 400k silver is a bit slave tier, the draughts are expensive but the problem is a material shortage probably
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>>2849175
The cooking itself is actually not that bad and gathering is fun (tm)
But once you start processing cron meals it makes the whole ordeal worse than afk fishing in velia istg
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>>2849175
It really is the processing that takes ages. The rest is painless if you do a batch here and there.
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>>2847830
Lifeskillers barely spend any money on this game, they only need you people to add to the number of players online.
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>>2848635
>its just sub 1% of the population having a melty that their silver hoarding can't buy them instant endgame gratification this time around
honestly petty and hilarious if true
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heres your market savior event
>>2848385
want coupled with the retarded market price cap turns it into can't
fags that are obsessed with silver/hour will not do the pitiful 300m/h lifeskill processing
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>>2847830
Lifeskillers owe me draughts and sex
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I lifeskill with my zerker
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Should I get into bartering before or after I save for the carrack?
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>>2850740
you need a warehouse full of barter goods to really make money, get the lower level shit done while you're saving up
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neat, they added this stupid option only after everyone has made the $10 purchase
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>>2846042
>Brazilians still finding ways to shit up MMOs even with their own servers

Time is a circle.
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>>2850982
They never stopped doing that, they just mostly play uncshit like tibia and ultima online or random maplestory pservers and yes they always exploit
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>>2848817
That wasn't the case though. Gathering, before the byproduct nerf update, was very profitable. With TET Manos clothes and tool, and a TRI preonne set and a basic life mastery crystal page coming to around 100b silver investment in gear, you could be getting more than 3b per hour, 2b in sharps alone just from the byproduct exchange. That could increase even more if you knew what you were doing, and chose good spots, and not some basic red meat gathering. The problem began when they nerfed it to the ground so now the good spots drop shit amounts of sharps, and by buffing bartering, they made the next step of gathering pointless.
Let's take for example lion meat gathering. If you had a good class and a good rotation, you could be getting easily 3b per hour, with some lucky WON drops on top of that. After 5 hours of gathering, you could also cook the jungle borgir submeal for 1 hour, making 1.6b-2.2b per hour, depending on the market trends. Now, the gathering profit is in the gutter after the nerfs, and I can just go bartering for 1.5b per hour every hour, until I need a restock, with huge afk windows of 20-40 minutes, that doesn't require purchasing weight like cooking or alchemy, plus the lucky special barters, plus the profit from crow coins, etc.
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>>2850982
Glorious commies fucking shit up again.
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FFFFF I can't even do daily imperial box by buying from the market now
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I fell for it again
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>>2851416
Please do not fall for Lady Cartian's charms; she is a voracious woman of lewd tastes.
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>>2851416
i thought this was michael jackson
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So, what are you going to play now that BDO ended?
I'm going for AION and be fucked by NCsoft.
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I upgraded my ekleta ring to PRI and i deeply regret it, i rushed to hit a bracket for the next boss and now i'm stuck. Can't even grind second zone.

Is dying with red karma the only way to downgrade it so i can exchange it back to NOV khara? I feel like such an idiot...
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>zoomerslop titlescreen music
NNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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EDANIADAY1FORYOU

lol
LMAO even
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>>2851455
there's nothing else and unironically I never woulda thought BDO would be the peak for korean mmos cause this shit came out a whole ass decade ago
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>lifeskillers create a shortage of buffs as protest
>pa gives meals and draughts for free from coupon codes
kind of based
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>harmony SPREADSHEET
no real human bean was making these, you can't convince me otherwise
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>>2852046
There are actually quite a bit of spreadsheet subhumans in this game
Genetically designed to be braindead office drones
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>>2851446
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>>2851455
Aion 2 is just an improved Throne and Liberty with less pvp and better pve
It'll do better sure and it panders to gooners, but it's not the BDO killer
Koreans can't figure out how to do better than this game
You're here forever...
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whats a good mining rotation
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>>2852590
turn 360 degrees and walk away
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>>2852590

Crabs have only one viable rotation (the beach)
Pilgrims is just mine anything in range of your mouseclick
Basalt and Marble literally only have one rotation
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>>2852598
no i need sharps
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>>2852603
Then go tan lizards/sheep/birds
Sharp droprate on mining is SHIT
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>>2852609
i figured i'd also be getting mysterious ores in the meanwhile, is it that bad
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>>2852649
Well if you want max mysterious ore/sharps then go pilgrim with mousemovement enabled

You would be better off grinding + buying sharps with grindmoney but if you dont want to do that pilgrims would be the best choice for your goal

Usually mysterious ore doesnt drop as much from mining as from grinding too...
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>>2852603
what do people use so many sharps on
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>>2852768
alchemy stone upgrades
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>>2852772
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World bosses are a little slow today, even Garmoth managed to take flight like 4 times
I think the harmonypocalypse unironically killed our comeback
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>>2852823
yup, no wonder they put out a bandaid so fast
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>>2852871
they only gave like 8 of each unless i'm missing something else lol
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>>2852902
8 + 4 + 3 over the next few days
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>>2852902
There's also twitch drops for an additional food box, 3x deep seas/courage and 3 edania harms.
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>>2852995
As well as login bonuses for 4 edania harms and 3 perfume of Tenacity and Perfume of Envy starting at midnight UTC.
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>>2852776
post your splendid vells heart right now
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>>2853207
Use the oquillan pieces of old moon instead of sharps they are cheaper.
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>>2853219
fk u
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>>2853222
Mining spot is going to be pilgrim's haven. Or hunting gives lots of sharps too.
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why are there always boats hanging out together in the open water south of iliya island
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>>2853238
Seamen meeting up for a gay orgy
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lmao
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>>2853345
>ummmm you can't just buy out the whole market supply of an item because uhhhh you just can't alright???
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This shit takes forever bros, I'm afraid I'll miss the panic sell window
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nice strike lifies
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>they killed Seraph for PvP
>now they are butchering her PvE as well
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>>2855162
>hoarders are panic selling because they're giving out free harmonies
rumao
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>>2855286
20 minute change also coming next week
Its genuinely over
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>>2855288
what that mean, they making draughts last 20 min?
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>>2855293
Yes
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FUCK lifeskillers
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should i try to tap the debos i get together or sell them at base
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Man this event cant even fill any preorders
They considerably nerfed this shit
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>>2855470
In the current meta, tap them away if you're not desperate for silver. If you luck out and get a tet bank the money else you lost a couple of millions, who cares.
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I'm scared to leave Hexe
Also I've never used a draught a single time
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>>2853345
>fat cringy retard
who the fuck even watches this shit
also not funny
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>game lags me off my boat while I'm afk sailing
>come back to find a medium pirate ship chewing on my hull
Thank you PA very cool
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Last time I asked on here, people said don't use crons to get armor up to silent. The problem is there are no distorted stones on the market (plus they are 5 billion minimum, way beyond my ability to purchase if they were available anyway). I have 64k crons left. Can I use them or just wait until they give free stuff again?
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>>2858493
where are you grinding? 5b isn't that unreachable
also it looks like you havent even finished your hyperboost
FG sucks and is cursed btw, even with the lowered pity
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>>2858527
I don't really grind, I just do weekly dark rifts and occasional Garmoth. Grinding is just too boring tome for me to focus on it and i burn out after a single session. I usually just do story mode stuff but i ran out of that so I'm just kind of not doing anything. I hate life skilling too so I don't do that content.
Also, what Hyperboost am I missing?
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>>2858539
you get enough stuff from hyperboost to get 2 oct kharas, emma bartali's logbook I think
it's fine if you don't want to grind but if you're not going to try at all to make silver by any other means then yeah, you just have to wait for handouts to upgrade your gear that you don't need anyway because you don't do anything and you don't want to engage with any of the content
gl with that
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>>2858547
Well, I don't engage with any of the content because i don't like it, simple as that. I just like doing the story; oh and the combat is fun, but not mindlessly grinding for hours on end being bored to death. And I don't know how you are supposed to get two OCTs, from what I saw there is only enough material for one OCT and a bunch of SEP, and that's counting the log book, which I didn't do all of that either because some of the stuff it requires you to do doesn't appeal to me either or I am not skilled enough to do.

Anyway, time to stop playing for another six months I guess until the next big event. I only came back because of the hyperboost, finally have more than 620 gear score after years of being stuck there so didn't really play much because of how hostile the progression is in this game. :-)
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>>2858560
bruh I think cookie clickers are too hardcore for you
you make velia fishcucks look like god gamers
fuck outta here
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>>2858573
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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thinking of dipping gradually next week too, it's mildly infuriating to grind
>loot disappear as there are too many mobs and the pets dont pick them up fast enough even with agile command
>becomes overweight every 10-15 minutes of grind and have to go dump garbage
>market doesn't have vell heart for sale
>only viable grind spots are elvia for cups, hexa for silver and yeezy highland for kabua
>still doing the same damage at elvia even though my AP is way higher than the recommended stat
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>>2858720
there's also a hidden game mechanic about aggro, mobs seem to drop aggro and reset their hp if I grab 12 or 13 mobs at once, annoying af
mobs from random events seem to ignore this limit but then my skills also have a hard limit of how many mobs they can hit so when there are too many of them my skills end up doing damage unevenly and most of the mobs survive far longer
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>>2858720
>>becomes overweight every 10-15 minutes of grind and have to go dump garbage
Dont tell me you dont know about the horse tech
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>>2858762
yeah the aggro limit is surprising for a game centered around grinding, but it likely ties in with all the mechanics behind looting and stuff....

how does mob-tagging work in this game? Does the first hit on a mob determine who's loot it is or the deathblow or everyone who hits a mob gets to loot it?
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Is there any way for me to squeeze more ap into this vs edania monsters? Trying to get up to the cap for the new content. but I am just off a bit.
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>>2859340
I believe its final hit that determines who gets the loot unless you are at a group spot in which case its as long as someone in your group got the last hit everyone in the group up to max number of people for spot get loot. I haven't experimented how it works if you have 3 at a 2 person spot though so cant tell you on that front.
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>>2859811
Also I'll get the fused crystals of brutal decimation (for +6ap) as soon as I can just kinda need to be able to do new stuff to get them in the first place.
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You may henceforth call me Qween of the Labyrinth
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Sexiest Shai outfit?
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I'm a happy Shai
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>>2859340
I think the aggro limit is a weird relic from the past because new spots don't have it as far as I can tell, like when orbita starts spawning tons of mobs just before the giga golem they all aggro to you no problem.
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>>2861664
Very nice!
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aggro limits (and short leashes) are probably about not letting someone round up an entire hunting ground and then aoe bomb them like back in L2 days
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>>2862218
comes back to >>2861750 in how it's a relic of the past. new spots are designed in a way where this issue fundamentally cannot happen but you still see weird aggro limits in old spots like the serendia elvia areas where mobs are way more scattered and still spawn from things like tents
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white pointy hats and robes
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>>2863864
Me and bros on our way to rape some pink slut
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>Vell not spawning on some channels
>All group content deactivated
>Channels falling offline

I guess players actually playing the game instead of afk fishing was too much to handle for PA's server-basement...
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>>2864204
hot
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I'm getting more debos than ore, and I would rather get ore for those stupid crystals



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