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First for Legion of the Damned.

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First for thread fortified

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Man, I need to take some new Fists pics, the old ones look like ass with the lower res

Welcome to Fourchanius System

>>2851786
I like the different generations walking together

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>>2851786
>>2851895
Alright, what's your favorite power armor marks and why? I'm starting to really like the mark V and VII just because of the angry face vox grills and I'm wavering on and off the fence about getting the Carcharodons pack solely for the mark V helmet.

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>>2851946
Good taste

>>2851946
mark 6, 7 and 3 in that order.

t. raven goy

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>>2851946
For me it's Mk7>Mk2 (Early crusade)>Mk6.

>>2851795
Are you the Anon who was installing 4K texture pack a thread or two ago?

If I were to join a chaos faction, which chaos God will have the best slam pig braphogs? Would it be Nurgle or could Slaanesh pull it off for me?

>>2852189
Yeah

>>2852018
Did they come up with the beaky helmets mostly for the chapters focused on birds, or did pretty much every faction always use them commonly?

>>2852205
The beakie helmets were the original ones back in Rogue Trader, the bird chapter thing came after

>>2852199
Cool. Nice to see you're making use of it. Photo mode looks stellar with those textures on.

>>2851786
Legion is too cool for this world sadly. I'm sure Saber's modellers would do a good job at creating models, but Gays workshop will never greenlight this. And screw them for it.

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>>2852283
I have been thoroughly enjoying it, makes taking pics from really up close massively more enjoyable

>>2852278
There were no bird chapters when the beak helmets appeared?

>>2852390
Nta and a bit of a 40k newfag but I think it was the original power armor/space marine design and was retroactively attributed to Raven Guard once they started writing more lore. Somewhere along the way plot holes happened.

Either way, I've never been too much of a fan of beakies but stupidly it's because they're attributed to the bird chapters instead of being more relateable to the hounskull to fit in more with the space knights thing a lot of chapters have.

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>>2852390
>>2852420
as that Anon said, the bird chapter were there (the original Raptors for example) but everyone had the beakies, and they became more of a Ravenguard and successors thing much later, although it is a popular pattern of helmet in general

>>2852451
I'd like them better if they actually did resemble classic armor designs more, with vent holes and more structural details and angular surfaces and stuff. Just making them literally a smooth beak looks a little strange.

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>zoan and biovore
>constant dings going off

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>>2851786
I use to hate these guys but after learning more about them they actually are pretty damn cool. It didn't help the first time I heard about them I got told it was just a edgy chapter of marines with nothing supernatural going on. Definitely should get used in more stories.

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>>2852390
not really, raven guard was only invented to fit the 9 loyalist vs 9 traitor legions scheme of Horus Heresy.

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>>2852196
You're asking for diseases with a nurgle whore. If her ass is big because of Nurgle, it'll be because it's filled with pus and maggots. Her skin will be slimy and slopping off. Her guts will hang out, leaking liquid feces and parasites. It'll be like fucking a post op tranny crossed with a meth zombie.

Newfags would pick Slaanesh because lol pleasure god. So obvious, right? WRONG!
The endgame of getting slaanesh pussy is drowning in it until you never want pussy again. Slaanesh pussy is like a gateway drug to gay sex, and eventually hellraising yourself. The last vestiges of feeling, sought out of desperation, only for those to also turn to ashes in your mouth as your hedonistic crusades decay like your average plague marine.

>one day, on the battlefield
>you happen upon a sister of battle fighting
>her sweat mixing with the blood she splashes on herself like a child taking a bath
>you absorb her into your warband
>he's a pure tsundre at first
>you begin to bond with her, battle to battle
>in your fleet on the way to more battlefields
>you spar
>the sparing leads to angry, primal, almost double rape style wrestle sex with her
>You battle alongside her on these endless battlefields
>the tension of being too busy killing people to fuck her is fueling your rage
>with every battle, Khorne makes her thighs wider
>making you better at blood draining as she gets better at khum draining

>Week 52: Aug 26 – Sep 1, 2026
Termination
Split Up = When you maintain close proximity to Squad Members, Armour and Contested Health restoration are disabled
Maintain Distance = Melee Damage is greatly reduced, but Ranged Damage is increased
Enemy Sighted = Ranged kills restore Armour based on enemy threat level

>Week 53: Sep 2 – Sep 8, 2026
Decapitation
Suboptimal State = Maximum health is reduced by 50%
Butcher's Gifts = Enemy Executions heal Squad Members within a 7 metre radius for 20% health, but do not heal you
Hallowed Relic = A random player carries a Hallowed Relic that heals nearby allies and boosts their damage by 50%
Intelligence Lapse = The enemy faction that does not usually appear spawns instead

>Week 54: Sep 9 – Sep 15, 2026
Reliquary
Corrupted Relic = A random player receives the Cursed Relic. While holding it, enemies prioritise attacking the holder, and the holder's damage dealt is reduced by 25%. Hold the Relic to avoid mission failure
Hazardous Environment = Enemies spread Toxic or Corruption zones (depending on faction) around themselves
Measured Mercy = You are granted 5 Relics at the start. Allies cannot be revived from Incapacitation, and you are defeated if any player dies

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"NIDDERS could be here" he thought. "I've never been in this sub sector before. There could be NIDDERS anywhere." The cool wind felt non existant against his bare ceramite breastplate. "I HATE NIDDERS" he thought. Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War 1: original soundtrack: track #13 - Force Commander Theme reverberated his entire apocalypse class battleship, making it pulsate even as his monthly ration of amasec circulated through his colossal genetically reinforced veins and washed away his (merited) hatred of xenos after a warp jump. "With an apocalypse class battleship, you can go anywhere you want." he said to himself, booming ear piercingly out his helmet's vox caster.

badly doodling in mspaint is preferable to slop

>>2853060
this.

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>leveling assault
>quickplay absolute disruption
>get heavy and vanguard randoms
>are after first statue
>carnifex spawn
>get it into execution state
>see that heavy is low, go to execute warrior instead
>game """auto-corrects""" me to still execute the carnifex
>apologize in text chat, heavy says it's fine
>the so-far silent vanguard starts to bitch at me
>"you're at full health, maybe you should go for other kills instead" "heavy needed health" etc etc
>obvious russian accent
>spiral stairs triggers extremis spawn, biovore rapes heavy
>heavy notes in text chat "man, my internet is fucking me rn"
>vanguard pipes up again "see, this wouldn't have happened if the heavy executed the carni..."
>check pause menu, consolefag
>vanguard continues to be a whiny bitch for the rest of the mission
>tight corridor, lictor attacks us
>rape it as it is a single lictor
>astray bullet from the vanguard hits a barrel, killing the lictor
>vanguard starts bitching again "YOU BASTERDS!!!" and mumbles something in russian
>starts blowing up barrels next to me and the heavy for the rest of the mission
>even at the end when you exit the cathedral
As if I didn't already hate ziggers enough

>>2852591
Yeah, they catch unwarranted flak. I hope we'll get to see them more despite gw's faggotry. Their design is argument enough to have a chapter of astartes who fell across ages and were reformed as this fiery nightmare for chaos et al.

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>>2853243
btw I know they are theorized to be Fire Hawks lost in the warp but the idea of strong willed space marines coming back to be part of otherwordly looking legion would be a neat concept.

>>2853241
Russian players are either the best and most chill, or the worst autistic fucks you'll find around. No in between.

>>2853251
The only people who rarely sperg out are the nips

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>>2851768
I recently came back to the game and today I did my first daily strat: Vox Liberatis (for the emp boost damage +incapacitations reduce your total health) on normal. Nobody else joined and I had to fight the new chaos terminus by myself. This fucking wizard terminator flooded my screen with miscellaneous particle effects, was apparently invincible for some times and shot me through walls. So a really bad design for this foe. To add insult to injury those altars in the final area can't be captured by the bots and I had to stay there the whole time while fighting off wave after wave. I went down multiple times but in the end pulled through.
To end my rant: is the new meta regarding chaos missions to a) don't run them or b) run them with two friends you trust?

>>2852654
>pic
ummm ma'am *gulp* please be careful
if your loincloth moves too much I may be able to see your *gulp* pussy

>>2852654
So straight it loops back to being gay

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"NIGGERS could be here" it thought. "I've never been in this sub sector before. There could be NIGGERS anywhere." The cool solar wind felt non existant against its bare chitin hide. "I HATE NIGGERS" he thought. "With a bio-ship, you can go anywhere you want." it mentally said to itself

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>>2853460

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>carry double spawns of extremis + carniflex
>meanwhile the other fag is fighting for his life against warriors or idk what
>gets downed too
>later i get staggered by his grenade and lose 80% of my health
>see a stim pack
>he picks it when he's already back at 100%
I see why some space marines turn to chaos now

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>load into absolute match in progress
>two PS subhumans
>one of them is dead and the other is minimum health against a full health neurothrope
>leave
>quickplay into another absolute match in progress
>get a different set of PS subhumans
>same shit different wipe
they should be put in camps and worked to death

>>2853587
>didn't say what class or chapter he was but I swear to god thought you were talking about a space wolves' vanguard

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anyone want to run a few games?

>>2853694
region?

>>2853709
oce but I can join any region

>>2853714
shit. not good.

>>2853715
relax, I play high ping all the time

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I just want to say that the idea of Ferrus Manus returning as a literal Machine Spirit that pilots a Legion of the Damned mech would be cool as fuck
friggin metal dude

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>>2853735
>high ping

Is Ferrus being the primarch of the LotD just a misconstrued interpretation of that scene in Master of Mankind or is there some other instance this happened?

>>2854028
I think it's a misinterpretation, but I try to avoid engaging with modern 40k lore because fuck you I'm not buying 800 out of print books to know what's going on during the Heresy

WE WILL DEFY THEM THIS DAY
AS WE HAVE DEFIED THEM FOR TEN MILLENNIA
WE ARE THE SONS OF ULTRAMAR
SERVANTS OF THE EMPEROR
AND GUARDIANS OF THE IMPERIUM

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>>2855238
RALLY AROUND THE BANNER

Block power axe with vanguard is just so fun to use. Too bad the class is fucking dogshit.

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>>2855266

>>2855320
kek

Why do people still refuse to buy tech priests?

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>>2855410
They are retarded

>>2855272
>Best access to healing in Absolutes.
>Nukes groups with a single opening if you know what you're doing.
>Grapnel loop build becomes comfy and invincible if you can get that opening.
>But
>Grapnel is jank as shit at the best of times.
>No good damage boost passives. Everything is survivability.
>Weapon selection is shit and bad outside of a few standouts that you need to use and abuse or your damage just falls off a cliff and dies alone and unloved.
>No ammo regen exacerbating the bad weapons issue and making you rely on mixing melee in as a matter of course.
>You got two viable builds. That's it.
I don't think Vanguard is dogshit but I can't deny he has fucking problems. I main him, and have run into every single issue people bitch about but I also can't stop playing him just because being able to aura farm and wipe out groups of majoris and extremis for damn near zero effort never gets old.
Have you tried the full melee commitment build with the nuke kick?

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>>2855272
try the kick build instead of the aoe on execute build. the dev intentionally made it so you could one shot a warrior with it. also use inner fire

>havnt played in a week
>still visit thread

>>2855663
good point
closing this tab

>>2855566
I happen to think vanguard actually has a really great weapon selection with lots of options for allowing focus on melee or short ot long range or anything in between. The problem is a lot of the weapons have been power crept to shit, particularly meltas, and they have almost nothing to consistently boost their damage like other classes. If you just fix their grapple hook so it doesn't fail all the time, give them perks similar to sniper or heavy where you double down on what kind of weapons you're playing and buff those weapons specifically, and maybe give them something a little more unique to the claas like some kind of ability that lets melee and ranged to pass through or ignore block so their relatively piddly damage at least consistently reaches enemy health bars, it could be pretty banging and much more in line with what a vanguard is trying to be.

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>Get the fuck out of dodge when it teleports because its reentry teleport hurts too
>Dodge or parry the after images but don't gunstrike
>Shoot down the orbs ASAP
>Dodge the laser like a full second after the red indicator pinging noise
Any other Termie Sorc knowledge checks?

>>2855701
he gets raped by stagger, and power axe sprint attack staggers him

>>2855694
Yeah, I can agree with this. It's not all doom and gloom but it is legitimately rough trying to come up with viable weapons that meet Vanguard's needs or work with its perks. I'm actually starting to get a bit lukewarm on the ammo carbine nowadays for instance.
>Full melee commitment wants the 30% Melee damage perks on empty gun+the same perk on the Inferno Pistol to absolutely juice the shit out of White Scars chainsword specifically, leaving you with only the Ammo Marksman Carbine or Wrapped Instigator as viable main weapons to enable nuke kick and deal with ranged enemies.
>Grapnel Execute Loop wants accurate burst damage guns and AoE to efficiently deal with stuff that the aurafarm executes can't deal with yet. That's gonna be meltaguns and carbines.
>Outside of fully building into melee damage melee damage fucking sucks and trying to get stuck in gets you killed because you don't have the DPS to even kill a single majoris. This is solved with Block Power Axes' sheer burst damage and the backstep and knockback set up grapnel looping nicely so they're used as parry sticks more than actual melee weapons.
>Combiflamer actually enables Argent Edge by simultaneously covering AE's weaknesses and enabling some of the best carbine perks. Pair them with the Volkite and you not only have one of Vanguard's better builds currently you get to larp as a combi-lietenant.
Like, I give no one shit for dissing Vanguard. His best tools are all hyper specific and most folks I've seen just get knowledge checked off him. Couple that with his abysmal levelling experience and uh... yeah.

>>2855701
He dies to the heroic Stalker bolter, the constant auspex melts him.

Just make sure you have 1-2 teammates who can beat up the extra Extremis waves. Once they're gone it's just plain old focus firing squad.

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Dodge assault is pretty fun.
However, leveling a class that is, depending on which playstyle you go for, at best weak or at worst blatantly dysfunctional until prestiged 2 or 3 times and at max level for the prestige it is, is not fun.

>>2856875
The dodge is also 10 kinds of fucked and really inconsistent now. It always felt inconsistent but this patch the broke something because it wasn't as bad before it.

Is this one of these games that's better played with an Xbox controller? I remember playing the first one.

>>2857035
If you make sure to rebind the nonsensical default control scheme before you get your muscle memory locked in, mouse and keyboard is very natural. I can't tell you that it's better because I've never used a controller for the game, but I can't imagine it would be.

>>2857035
Yeah, all the controller buttons are in places that make sense, and the aim assist means you'll never miss a headshot on purpose

>>2855660
Thats what i'm using. And i do use Inner fire. Fuck their healing crutch.

any eu codes?

>>2857743
if you don't mind putting up with me learning the assault dodge build, i can host

>>2857767
lets do it

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>>2857770

>>2857772
2/3

>>2857772
expired

>>2857903
we're full, forgot to update the thread

>>2857833
>>2857772
2/3 again, I left, thanks for the games

>>2857772
>>2857950
Closed, gonna go sleep
Thanks for putting up with me being a shitter on assault, anons.

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How the fuck do we salvage this thing lads?

>>2858036
Gift it to the blood ravens and forget about it really

>>2858036
just make it inflict burn on charged attacks instead
fuck this whole
>everyone uses this weapon for one reason so we can't possibly encourage that
shit

>>2858036
either do >>2858064 or give it the extra utility of more range than offered by other power fist attacks

RRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAH
Christ I friggin' HATE fighting Chaos

here's some general changes I think would make fighting Chaos more fun
>increase the head hitbox size of all Thousand Son space marines by 25 to 50 percent
>better match up the blue and orange warnings for the various chaos spawn attacks
>make the teleporting a bit less aggressively spammed
>remove the guranteed chaos miasma proc from being hit by the flamer enemy's AoE attack (you can still have it give you a large percentage of the status bar, but dont make it a guranteed proc)
>tone down the ranged spam from flying zangors

at the end of the day this game's balance on ranged weapons is the main thing that makes Chaos not fun to fight, because everything is too dangerous for how long it takes to put down
>unloading entire magazines into the head of a space marine and not killing them
makes my dick flacid
this shit desperately needs the bolt weapons to have their damage increased by like 4x and ammo adjusted accordingly
the ammo economy should be such that using bolters on minoris feels like a waste, not because of how much ammo you have, but because of how much overkill it is
you just can't kill the majoris fast enough

I guess the biggest ones are
>a massive rebalance of ranged weapon damage / ammo
>increase their head hitbox sizes

What are the MUST have Relic Weapons that I should get ASAP?

>>2858268
Meant Heroic Weapons sorry...

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>>2858269
>>2858268
pretty some youtuber put out a video about this within the last week

oh yeah here it is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drrlGYaek40

TLDW
10. Death's Grasp (PF)
9. Wrapped Instigator Bolt Carbine
8. Heroic Bolt Pistol
7. Combi Flamer (bolt carbine)
6. Salamander's Power Sword
5. Heroic Heavy Bolter (big gun for heavy)
4. White Scars Chainsword
3. Heroic Plasma Pistol
2. Heavy Bolt Rifle (the deathwatch one with a grenade launcher)
1. Argent Edge (combat knife)

>>2858269
>Priority
Fencing knife
Heavy plasma
Heavy bolt rifle with grenade launcher
Plasma pistol
Fencing power sword
Bolt sniper rifle
Stalker bolter
Heavy bolt pistol
Fencing thunderhammer

>Grab these after you've grabbed those above
Block chainsword
Fencing power fist
Instigator bolt carbine
Bolt rifle with melta
Bolt carbine with flamer
Bolt pistol
Balanced knife

>Not Priority, you're not missing much
Heavy bolter
Balanced power fist
Balanced power sword
Melta rifle
Balanced 2H power axe

>>2858295
tyty

>>2858295
>>2858268
and yeah the Argent Edge is definitely the best
the YT is right
>damages enemy on every parry
>INTERUPTS multi-hit combos and instantly sets them up for a gun strike, instead of you potentially having to parry like 3 attacks
it's "balanced" by the fact that it has Block parry frames instead of Fencing parry frames
it's goated
unless you're playing Bulwark or Assault, it's a pretty easy first choice

>>2855817
I forgot to say buff the meltarifle, which it really needs. It used to be really fun to use but now that they've added multiple whole new difficulties it just hasn't kept up.

did they fix the weekly?

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>>2858356

>>2858356
>fix ?

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CUS IM A BEAST ASTRATES YES I AM
WELL IM A BEAST ASTARTES YES I AM
CUS IM A BEAST ASTARTES YES I AM
WELL IM A BEAST ASTARTES YES I AM

>>2858356
Never, suck it according to the slavoids

Next week is pretty easy all things considered before being hard again for the final week of August and first week of September

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>play SPUHS MUHRINE TWHOO multi
>made a Black Templar tactical
>random 2 dudes join
>they also have BT's themed astartes
A B S O L U T E L Y
B U R N T H E H E R E T I C
K I L L T H E M U T A N T
P U U U R G E T H E U N C L E A N N N

>>2858615
WE ARE SIGISMUND SLAAAAYYYYYYY SISTER !!!!!

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>>2859136
Yew listin 'ere sisseh boah, we gon find yew, an' we gon' kill yew.

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>>2859173
You say that like this isn't my usual monday morning

>>2859193
I'm startin to think you boys get shunned for a reason

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>>2859238
You don't mean it bro'

>>2859244
>>2859193
>>2859173
why dont space marines get sexualized

>>2859681
they probably do but you're not gay enough to look for it

>>2859681
I think it's mostly because they're canonically sterile and impotent, and there's no real way you could ever put them in a position to be sexy. Like, monsters are sexy because they're primal and have that underlying urge to breed, whether it's for pleasure or procreation. Space Marines may as well be mindless faceless killing machines.

>>2859901
Do they not have genitals? Being sterile doesn't mean you can't fuck.

>>2859901
>and there's no real way you could ever put them in a position to be sexy.
doom guy makes a lot of porn appearances. the idea of him fucking fat ass demons with all his strength is hot

>>2860018
That's weird, I don't think there are any sexy demons in the doom universe?

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>>2860016
There was one white scar that might have fucked somehow.
Only the slaanesh chaos marines really fuck though, because slaanesh's chaos magic overwrites the mental and chemical conditioning preventing astartes from even wanting to fuck in the first place. Otherwise, they're usually asexual and nothing is capable of turning them on.

They already have ways of making more space marines that are arguably better if you want to screen out shitters.
Rape for the sake of psychological warfare is probably considered unthinkably disgusting and shameful to even non-codex compliant and renegade chapters, since their opposition is usually xenos or heretics/traitors. Not to mention dangerous, since you'd be exposing a now unarmored and vital point on the body. Even if it's another human, the chances of exposure to foreign diseases and/or parasites, of or of not of a warp-like nature, are extraordinarily high.
I'm sure there's some really fringe chapters that have a geneseed with a libido, or who put themselves through enough psychological and chemical modification that they can allow themselves to have sexual relationships in a similar fashion to how salamanders keep in touch with terran communities. Relationships that deep probably aren't desirable to most marines though, considering their lifespans are over 10x that of non-astartes humans, unless they fuck aeldari, but those are xenos.

>>2860329
None of which prevents anyone from drawing caked up nude space marines.

>>2860016
Part of the Spess Mehreen identity is not having the ability to breed because the Emprah designed them to be that way.

In old lore, young Space Wolves and White Scars fuck local women until it got cleaned up by nu-40k. In both old and nu lore, Emperor's Children during the Great Crusade, Horus Heresy and 41st millennium are actively having sex/raping someone something though fucking is considered by both old and nu-lore as a "lesser" sensation mostly partaken by newest recruits or plain old degenerates.

In one of the Fabius Bile books he chastises one of his EC assistants for constantly raping female subjects and banishes him out from his lab.

Fulgrim had 9 wives and a host of mistresses and concubines. Unlike the Emprah who also had tons of sex and had a ton of women birth demigods, he, the Custodians, Primarchs and Spess Mehreens are all sterile and are psychologically stunted and brainwashed to even bother getting hard.

>>2860344
Those are just blood angels using eachother as models for their paintings. Nothing sexual about it.

>>2860329
>considering their lifespans are over 10x that of non-astartes humans
that would just put them into the position of stewarding the bloodline
If marines are going to keep in touch with their families then they're going to be nobles and knights who are essentially the head of their entire lineage and are assigned as such in order to raise their successor while the rest are approximately chapter serfs

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>>2859681
Not a space marine but one time a grey knight got sexualized by a foid inquisitor chick who kept thinking about how he looked in the shower and what type of "wargear" he's packing down there. She didn't say any of this out loud btw the grey knight just read her mind was grossed out. Poor guy.

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This guy comes up and gives your girlfriend free augmetics.

What do you do?

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>>2861222
I praise the Omnissiah

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Raven Guard is so cool
>Primarch is essentially a Warp daemon now
>cool black color scheme
>crows and ravens are the best birds and are bros
>they love using Assaults and Snipers
>Raptors are one of their successor chapters
>Space Sharks are one of their successor chapters

>>2861555
Trvke nvke

>>2861555
>Space Sharks are one of their successor chapters
From what I've heard from one anon on this particular vietnamese basket weaving forum. Carcharodons aren't confirmed successors. Or are they supposed to be some remnant of terran off-shoot of another Raven Guard successor? Genuine question cause there are conflicting opinions on sharks.

>>2861696
I remember something about a sect of Raven Guard being sent to some galactic boonie-equivalent area of space that the sharks now operate in.
The timeline of the RG sect being sent away and when the sharks started operating lines up well enough and they also share gene-defects with the RG (pale skin and black eyes).

>>2861696
>Carcharodons aren't confirmed successors. Or are they supposed to be some remnant of terran off-shoot of another Raven Guard successor? Genuine question cause there are conflicting opinions on sharks.
the literal lore is that they're *probably* a Raven Guard successor
part of their mystery is that we only have a good guess at where they come from, and then then it's all officially unconfirmed stuff
the mystery of whether they're actually RG or not is part of the canon
which means that they're probably RG, but aren't married to it if GW wants to retcon them at some point

Heroic Melta Pistol
>hitting at least 3 enemies with one shot will fully reload the weapon
>killing at least 3 enemies with one shot will fully refund the ammunition spent
the main goal for a Heroic Melta Pistol should be making the One Shot perk viable

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>>2861730
Heroic melta pistol will be the heroic melta but even weaker because the malta pistol does zero damage to anything but minoris

or heroic melta could be a focused beam version
like switching it from buckshot to a slug
enable headshot damage on it
headshots instantly reload the weapon

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>>2861555
Corax is a fucking pussy.
>I am a stealth primarch who can turn invisible with a high mobility jetpack. Meaning I can have a free shot, maybe even a killing blow against any one of the high priority traitor primarchs.
>Do I sneak past battle lines to try and backstab fulgrim and save my bro?
>Do I go for angron or mortarion? Both of them are powerhouses, and could give us an edge with them off the field.
>Kurze? Tough one, but it would give me a monopoly of all things stealth.
>OH I KNOW! I'LL GO FOR THE FUCKING ALTER BOY WHO'S NO REAL THREAT OR VALUE TO THE ENEMY. FUCK FERRUS! FUCK VULKAN! IM MAD AT RELIGION AND RELIGION IS GOING TO FEEL MY RATH!
>OH NO! CURZE DON'T KILL ME! PLEASE! *runs away before he can even kill lorgar*

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>>2861856
Adding this one to give NH some hair

>>2861696
Carcharodons are Raven Guard successors

>are emo
>pale white
>descended from ruthless Terran savages who initially formed the first Raven Guard
>were told to guard the galactic rim for eternity, the real reason was they're so brutal that Corvus Corax was appalled by their methods and low key exiled them and he was given the option of Thunder Warrioring them himself or via Lion or Russ but he refused
>they show up out of nowhere and disappear just as fast, a classic Raven Guard gimmick
>gets along with Raven Guard and other successors

>>2861863
>>2861842
fuck I take it all back
I have to kneel before this truke

>>2860209
youve never seen doom demons get sexualized?

>>2862109
No.

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>>2861696
They're a renegade chapter that is pro-Imperium and manages to resupply by trading xenotech they capture with the AdMech. Their recruiting is legal under forgotten treaties, but for all anyone presently knows, it's a raid for people.

>*record scratch*
>UP NEXT ON VORTEX F.M.
>OUR SEGMENT ON IF THE AVARAX CAMPAIGN WAS A FAILURE.. OR JUST AS PLANNED?
>*tape rewind sound effect*
>BUT FIRST, MORE TERRA-SHATTERING BEATS STRAIGHT FROM THE VORTEX
>*termi sorcerer laugh*
>*dance monkey by tones and I starts playing*

>>2862187
LITTLE BOY!!!

I haven't started leveling Sniper yet, still focused on Tactical

but based on what I've seen in his kit and available weapons, it seems like Sniper probably has one of the highest skill ceilings of any class
>Heroic Bolt Sniper that deals RETARDED headshot damage (166 damage on a headshot before any other modifiers, of which there are many to stack)
>Heroic Bolt Sniper that potentially has truly infinite ammo if you never miss a headshot
>regenerate 15% of your primary ammo by getting a kill with your pistol every 15s
>most easily accessible invulnerability (2s on cloak) other than an Assault spamming ground pounds into minoris hordes with Unyielding Oath
>free grenades every 30s if you can hit your headshots
>has access to Argent Edge
this seems so strong on paper

>>2862308
>RETARDED headshot damage
Yeah on Substantial, in Absolute you're not onetapping Majoris and your main weapon is fucking useless against hordes and hordes are common in the highest difficulties.

Heroic BSR players spend 90% of their time repositioning instead of shooting which makes them comically useless in the highest difficulties. It's only useful in hard stratagems if there is a +75% ranged damage modifier.

>>2862335
based on what I've seen you have to be good enough to quickscope like a motherfucker (which I think I will be)

>>2862340
It's definitely easier with Tyranids because popping warriors will also cull a decent amount of gaunts around it.

>>2862340
>good enough to quickscope
Which 99% of SM2 players aren't, not even CS2 pros.

The anti-player buffs and Majoris HP scales up but the heroic BSR damage stays the same.

When a Terminus that isn't the Neurothrope show up, you're a net negative to the team. It's quite obvious that the vatniks love using this gun on Substantial and lower and they couldn't care less if this gun has dogshit ammo economy in Absolute.

Same shit with Melta weapons, they refuse to buff them because they don't want giving players easy wins.

>>2862335
>in Absolute you're not onetapping Majoris
It deals enough to incapacitate warriors.
Buddy of mine is a min-maxer, nids were borderline unplayable when he found the HBSR, however the bitching about Tsons head hitboxes when we ended up in a chaos mission was funny.

>>2862369
>It deals enough to incapacitate warriors.
So is the Las Fusil and you can use the Las Fusil as a chaff cleaner or a regular lasgun.

Unlike the heroic BSR you can also redeem some ammo as well, you literally can't with the former because the vatniks think this gun shouldn't have ammo recovery.

>>2862374
Yeah, shortly after he got bored of the HBSR, he picked up the Las Fusil, claimed it was better for general use.
Wouldn't know myself, only ever used the bolt carbine on my sniper, despite fully leveling him and having him put on The Dude Wall.

>>2859681
They do. But believe it or not, its mostly by girls. And its often, but not always, gay.

>>2862308
Sniper's biggest weakness is the fact that he has no good AoE. Like, at all. His best options for it are grenades, the Las Fusil, Marksman Carbine and Wrapped Instigator, and the fucking regular ass relic Balance knife. None of these can handle gaunt carpets 100% of the time so with enough density you just fold.

Anyone for morning EU lutes ?

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>>2863040
Its ok i had fun with random

>>2863030
>he has no good AoE
He does, it's called the Inferno pistol but you are trading for the weakest gunstrike damage, zero headshots and inconsistent ammo recovery since you actually have to walk up to said Minoris and blast them instead of just shooting them from afar.

On the other hand it clears chaff well and stuns Majoris+ enemies.

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>>2863030
>>2863385
>inferno pistol
>weakest gunstrike damage
while it's technically true that it deals the lowest single target gunstrike damage, it makes up for it by the fact that its gunstrikes hit multiple enemies
VERY useful for dealing with large groups of melee majoris
not to mention that those gunstrikes will also do pic related to any minoris caught in the blast radius
to put it in perspective
the Heroic Heavy Bolt Pistol deals 115.5 gunstrike damage before other modifiers
the two Relic Inferno Pistols deal 70 and 80 gunstrike damage respectively
so if you hit even just two enemies, you're already dealing waaaaay more damage per gunstrike

not for sniper but
one of the most fun combos I've found in the game so far is power sword + inferno pistol
>swing into a horde in power stance
>immediately gunstrike and kill a bunch of shit
>repeat
might not actually be a super efficient way to horde clear but it feels great

>>2863606
Give power sword to tactical NOW

I'm a midwit, so for the Salamanders power sword I just spam light attacks and no power attacks?

>>2863688
When you parry, you get 3 stacks of buffed lights. So your 3 next lights do high damages. You can stack up to 6.
Otherwise, do the usual power rake bullshit.

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Melta not being absolute dogshit anymore ? Damn

>>2863784
>they're stronger
>but less ammo :)

>>2863786
Probably whats gonna happen in some way. But i'll take it over having to spam the fucking thing 5 times to kill a majoris.

Just have selectable firing modes

>Bolters
single semi-auto, burst fire, full auto
>Melta
shotgun blast, long laser
>Plasma
Common shots mode = faster venting
Charged shots mode = faster charge-up

>>2863801
>>Melta
>shotgun blast, long laser
Incredible way to misrepresent the melta by having two firing modes that both go against the standard weapon statline

>>2863606
So, while I kinda agree with the inferno pistol's AoE gunstrike being alright, it's such an ass pick for Sniper's secondary that I kind of deleted it from my lexicon for the class. You're taking kind of miserable AoE DPS in exchange for some of the frankly stupidest bolt pistol setups in the game. In my experience stacking Versatility, Ranged Damage on Gunstrike, and the BP's 50% Headshot damage on melee kill lets you burst down majoris and zoanthropes so quickly that the synapse kills might as well be how sniper does AoE. IP not only gives that up but also gives Sniper a "danger donut" in its effective range where stuff just isn't touchable. BSRs and Las get an awkward middle ring where the IP can't touch something but it's too close to safely snipe, and carbines have to resort to plinking targets at far ranges. Hell, the Versatility+Gunstrike damage boost combo makes it so that Retribution's Bequest can kill a Warrior in a single mag, and keeping a parry knife on hand lets you keep Versatility rolling with reload on gunstrike perks.

>>2855566
It's the medic role unfortunately. Feels bad to play without one, feels mid to play it yourself.

>>2864185
medic is for gay subs

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>"Deploy tactic: Rampant Violence"
Straban continues to be my favourite voice/personality/marine in the game.

>>2864132
How would you buff Inferno Pistol?

>>2864406
aggressive sustained counterfire

>>2864427
Unironically more reload speed. Maybe more distance on the shots too? I usually use it on niche melee setups like white scars CS Vanguard for the single shot and 20% more melee damage talent build. The problems I've seen with it is that it wants to be a CHP regen and melee group clear tool but not running single shot build makes it have a hard time efficiently cutting through crowds, but running it frequently has you running into the problem of needing to reload under pressure just to get another shot off while your CHP drains. It's not really a main weapon to lean on, but more of a niche tool. Sniper and Heavy kinda make piss poor use out of it, is what I was getting at originally.

>>2864633
>white scars CS Vanguard for the single shot and 20% more melee damage talent build
what makes the single shot perk viable here? curious

God heavy feels so shit to play in this "not-darksouls" game

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>get raped by the director
>everyone goes down
>alt-f4 so a bot can take over and save the game
God speed you glorious bastards, make it count

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>>2865242
>abandoning a game
If Dmitry gets wind of this....

>>2864406
Straban and Decimus are the only two characters with any memorable lines. All of my classes use one or the other.

>>2865258
Vespasius and Scipius have fire lines too though.

>>2865257
I have everything unlocked. I can play for fun without fearing to lose anything. Fuck them russian cucks.

>>2865242
A true hero of the Imperium.

>>2865266
Good. Same here. I don't care for their ridiculous grind.

>>2865258
>no assault
No ears

>>2863784
They got mogged by Helldivers 2, I wouldn't be surprised if they did some shit like take the Salamanders Melta, make the beam last longer and ramp up the damage, make that the standard for every single Melta in the game, and then change the Sally Melta so that became the cone beam style.

>>2865258
Literally the most fire fucking sequence of lines in this game belongs to Vespasius.

https://streamable.com/ezhahx

>>2865338
>>2865302
A space marine buying into what normal humans see them as is lame.
Might be my personal annoyance speaking, but the space marine equivalents of bible thumpers (Vespasius and Quartus) just annoy the shit out of me, almost as much as Decimus' constant screeching.

>>2865258
Valius (Tactical) has the best "For The Emperor", a shame his other lines are so boring.

classes that need to be added
>Librarian psyker
>Apothecary
>Chaplain / Judiciar (a Judciar is just a Chaplain in training, I don't know why people are debating whether it's one or the other)
>Terminator

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>[Anon] asks to use REQUISITION TERMINAL
>[Anon] points to TECH-PRIEST
>[Anon] asks to use REQUISITION TERMINAL
>[Anon] points to TECH-PRIEST
>[Anon] asks to use REQUISITION TERMINAL
>[Anon] points to TECH-PRIEST
>[Anon] asks to use REQUISITION TERMINAL
>[Anon] points to TECH-PRIEST

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>>2865756
Just do your 15 for the blue tokens and leave the first second you can. I'm not going to touch Siege until the CSM version gets pushed out 3 updates too early

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>>2865732
>terminator class
>"b-buh, muh lore. Muh this. Muh tha-"
FUCKYOUNIGGER

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>>2865770
I actually lost all my wave 25 ordeal progress after the last hotfix.

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>>2865338
>>2865386
>>2865393
I like the black templar voice actually. I like how he says 'god' emperor.
I like how he says:
>"SUFFER NOT THE XENOS/WITCH TO LIVE"
Shit is sick.

>>2860410
>implying the emperor is sterile

>>2865193
Until you take the heroic heavy bolter and suddenly you're playing doom.

>>2865193
Just use heroic heavy plasma.

>>2864642
>Take top build for 20% more melee damage when empty+Single shot on the ammo variant.
>Vanguard also has a perk that grants 30% more melee damage when the ranged weapon is empty.
>Combo this with WSCS and the 5% heal on melee majoris+ kill to turn every warrior or spawn group into a double stomp fueled healthpack.

The Tactical rework keeping his ammo regen and grenade regen just proves to me Saber does not understand why Tactical is so busted.

>>2866863
Auspex is the main culprit why all guns feel like pea shooters, because vatniks couldn't think ahead a bit nor did they expect SM2 to blow up as it did. That is why it's getting a rework. Now another thing is whether they will, in their infinite wisdom, also bother to double/triple bolter damage if auspex will not hit us with damage boost so hard now.

Ammo regen isn't what makes Tac busted. In a game where bullets can be scarce at absolute, ammo economy perk is actually something every class should have. I don't know about equipment restock team perk but why is it busted? Didn't devs exclude melta from the regen pool or something?

>>2866863
>ammo regen and grenade regen are the reason tactical is busted
lol no, however giving tac more melee options sure shows devs don't know shit about fuck

>>2866881\>>2866886
>Ammo regen isn't what makes Tac busted
It quite literally is, Tactical has as near as makes no difference infinite ammo. You can make the piddliest shittiest Auspex and Tactical still rolls the game on its belly and assfucks it, because he doesn't have to alternate between guns, he isn't forced into melee when it's inconvenient for him, and he can spam meltas or shocks with glee.

>I don't know about equipment restock team perk but why is it busted? Didn't devs exclude melta from the regen pool or something?
It sounds like you don't play Tactical. No, it doesn't exclude meltas. EVERYBODY regens a throwable every 60 seconds, regardless of what it is. That's a net return of three grenades back in stock every minute, meltas, shocks, kraks, pyreblaster canisters, everything.