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Phoenix Trailer Release Edition
aka
Fixed Thread Title Edition

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbDmVTikU68 [Embed]


Private servers
Auravia - https://auraviaxi.com/
Catseye - https://catseyexi.com/
Eden - https://edenxi.com
Eventide - https://www.eventidexi.org/
HorizonXI - https://horizonxi.com/
PegasusXI - https://pegasusxi.com/index.html
GaiaXI - https://gaiaxi.com/

Upcoming Private Servers
PhoenixXI - https://phoenix-xi.com/
ZenithXI - https://www.zenithxi.com/

Retail
http://www.playonline.com

Resources
https://flippantry.com/skillchain/
http://www.ffxicalculator.com/
http://www.pyogenes.com/ffxi/timer/v2.html
https://ffxiclopedia.fandom.com/wiki/Main_Page
https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Main_Page
https://classicffxi.fandom.com/wiki/Classic_FFXI_community
http://campsitarus.blogspot.com/

Last Thread: >>2873192
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Kipling is a sex pest
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>>2922703
And this is bad how?
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>>2922711
Didn't say it was bad or good. Just stating a fact
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>>2922703
And that's a good thing.
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>>2922738
>fact
post the unredacted evidence
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>>2922703
Phoenix sisters...
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>>2922841
He's too strong...
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>>2922841
Why do all these weirdos always rock an anime girl pfp who looks like she's 12. I swear these guys are pedos bruh...
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>>2922865
Is he a sex pest for 45+ year old retarded e-girls or a pedo?

you fucking retards can't make up your minds
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>>2922841
dude spends all his free time on the server and I'm supposed to get mad at him?
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>>2922869
why not both?
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>>2922869
whatever stops people from leaving horizon. please do not leave horizon. my self worth is tied to my horizon character.
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>>2922841

Unsure how this is a bad thing?

Relationships in the western world do not work 80% of the time, unless ofc you are the female in the situationship.

prove me wrong.
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>>2922908

Example:

Father - divorced 5 times
Uncle - on his 4th wife
Brother - 2nd girl, he caught her cheating on him
Me - Keking virgin with a comfy programming job wanking to waifus

I think we know who the winner is here, ill take my award thanks.
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>>2922918
>wanking to waifus
the true winner

but which ffxi waifu?
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>>2922923

If we are being honest.
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>>2922949
Xhe is trans...?
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>>2922923
I jerk up a storm whenever lLion shows up on the screen with that short yellow skirt.
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>>2922908
if the concern is that he's a sexpest, he may strike again. Might steal the 1 female in your linkshell. watch out
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Phoenix anon is a one man schizo circus, he plays all of the clowns. 24/7, like this is his day job.

I seen his guy sitting on the street corner with a cardboard sign advertising the Phoenix ffxi private server.
It had Horizon crossed off.
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>I seen
low iq, post disregarded.
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>>2923149
the guy himself, give him a round of applause. He's a one man circus.
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>>2923162
fuck private servers and fuck you
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>>2923123
Why are you so obsessed with him?
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>>2923169
He threatens my server, so I sent him to schizo post here.
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>>2923105
All it takes is a few subs or a change in some 0's and 1's. Women are very cheap nowadays
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>>2923105
Wouldn't that be a good thing since they wouldn't destroy your linkshell then?
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>>2923105
good, get them broads out.
He's doing everybody a favor
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Man nothing more depressing than playing the same game since 2004.
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Man nothing more elating than playing the same game since 2004.
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>>2923261
How old are you kiddo? go back to your private server drama and stfu.
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>>2923273
I've played retail tho
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Horizon is still popping off! New and Returning players always welcome join us!
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There's still 150 people with relics playing on this server guys! Think of all the time they spent getting their relics! Please log in for them!
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is there a website that tracks playercount between servers? do most of them make this info public via launcher or whatever?

>>2923123
*shitting , not sitting
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>>2923504
There is, but it's not very good because only a few servers make their player counts public.
It's become a peen measuring contest, and it's really not all that important. 2,000 people on one server is a crowd.
900 can be a crowd too. This isn't world of warcraft where you can cram 15k people in like a sardine can
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>>2923440
you mean 150 people playing without relics
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>>2923169
He hit on my egirl and stole her, and now I'm forever alone :,(
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>>2923602
Another one? Zamn... Kipring sure has rizz...
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Imagine telling people you know IRL you play on the Phoenix private server.
Like hey mom I play on this gay little private server, yep me and my bros there's like 30 people here super cozy
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Imagine telling people you know IRL you play on the Horizon private server.
Like hey mom I play on this gay little private server, yep me and my bros there's like 30 people who don't have relics here super cozy
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Imagine telling people you know IRL you play on the Horizon private server.
Like hey mom I play on this gay little private server, yep me and my bros there's like 30 real people who aren't fake players here super cozy
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Horizon population is massive dont join Phoenix!
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>>2923614
>>2923637
It's ok both of your servers are gay
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https://youtu.be/ny9pHf0sA60
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Play horizon we can help you with any quest and get started its not too late!
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>>2923708
AI slopped
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>>2923719
How much help can I get if i'm an egirl on your server?
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>>2923602
should have donated more
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>>2923708
isnt this the guy who was trying to remake the game in unreal?
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>>2923799
idk I saw it on d*scord and thought it was pretty cool since everyone uses the ancient AltanaViewer
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>>2923811
you dont need more
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>>2923759
You need to have 100+ viewers, and Aerec will openly praise you, whether M or F.
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>>2923244

>Classic WoW chud literally unable to look in a mirror

Lil gup mad his tortoise server got a hefty dump taken on it by blizz? oh no!

You okay lil gup?!
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WoW Classic+ is launching in October and will nuke both Horizon and Phoenix anyways
>b-b-but they appeal to 2 completely different types of players!!
If that were true, WoW wouldn't have raped every MMOs population the 1st time back in 2005.
>Blizzard is just gonna fuck it up and it won't be the classic we know and love!!
yeah but you're such a cuck you let big game companies bend you over and have their way, so you'll absolutely still be playing it.
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blizzard shit is off topic

besides, wowfaggotry is a sponge for most of the complete retards, so it existing is good for us
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blizzniggas so desperate they come to a Final Fantasy 11 thread to shill their shitty game
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>>2924092
Apparently it's bigger than just a Classic+, they're making an entire new game as a prequel in old Azeroth from Warcraft 1 with slow classic mechanics but retail graphics. Imagine if Square gave half a shit about this game
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>>2924098
ahhh, 200 pop server, just like the good ol' days, amirite?
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>>2924098
>off topic
holy shit you're a loser lmao
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>>2924098
hey man I think kacici is live, make sure you drop a follow
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Like there is somewhat of an overlap between blizz cucks and FFXI enjoyers but FFXI is a long term marriage and wow classic is like a short fling.
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Like you get to 60 in what a couple weeks? then you are geared for MC and do MC within maybe a month? then you wait for the next raid tier while raid logging?

Lol.... the only fun thing to do in WoW is PvP (gank people).
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>>2923571
whats the website?
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>>2924134
as opposed to spending months gearing up and grinding through the same obnoxiously long and grindy content that is leveling/gearing/missions.
the only fun thing to do in FFXI is sit around idle in Jeuno with your relic that you poopsocked for. sounds like they're the same
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>>2924171

For for me not for thee i guess? lol stay mad dude
Grinding in WoW is fuckin horrible, it is literally the worst thing about classic wow, just thinking about it makes my stomach turn.
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I never want to hear another quill board squeal, i never want to hear "zug zug" after mounting, i never want to hear that stupid ass unmounting sound, i never want to grind to 40 only to be so unbelievably bored with my class that i feel like quitting but dont so i roll another only to get to 30-40 again and do the same thing.

Not to mention the people getting hyped for classic+ are going to be run over by the sheer number of bots, lmfao miss me with all of that shit.
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>>2924188
For for me not for thee, i guess? lol stay mad dude
Grinding in ffxi is fucking horrible, it is literally the worst thing about classic ffxi, just thinking about it makes my stomach turn.

now what?
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>>2924199
>bots
this complaint never makes sense lmao. the bots were always there, in every mmorpg, you were just too young and naive to know. there's no difference.
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Idk everything Kipling posts seems based and whatever schizo just keeps spamming shit must have some weird grudge since never seen a concrete reason to hate the guy. Can anyone give me one with any kind of evidence?
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>>2924210

Keep seething blizz cuck
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>>2924219

Max level copium lmfao

enjoy tho dude im sure classic + wont be a shit show like the last 5 shitty ass attempts by blizzard.
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>>2924264
>>2924270
don't worry i'll be here 3 months from now when you same schizos are accusing another private server staff of corruption (they banned you for fishbotting and you're seething)
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>>2924290

Oh hey looks its a horizon cuck!
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>>2924261
I'm not so schizo to save shit like that but from what I recall all he did was just being horny on (private) DMs while he was still married
I don't know why so many people care about that stuff
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I GET IT NOW!

This influx of fake wow players are actually just bored horizon cucks that dont want to relevel so they want to shit up the thread with wow spam.

Maybe they even are holding out hope that classic+ will be good (LMFAO), nah bro you stuck on FFXI for the rest of your miserable life, it has ruined every other game for you, just accept it already.
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>>2924315
Peaked in high school / boring lives / low self-esteem, etc. The same reason any other fag name drops people.
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>>2924315
But that screenshot says he is divorced so maybe the marriage was already over? Why the fuck do people care about this exactly? What does it have to do with how good a private server is?
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>>2924261
It's Setsuko seething that Kipling has moved on while she grooms little kids
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>>2924381
the event I'm referring to happened like 3 years ago
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>>2924458
Ok and so why should people care? You haven’t explained that to me yet
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>>2924492
I already said I don't fucking know nigga I'm just telling you what I remember the retards were gossiping about back then
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>>2924497
Again… why do you care?
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Is Phoenix gonna kill Horizon or will it split the population and we end up with two dead servers?
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>>2924518
Why does it have to be so black and white? They can both exist just fine
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>>2924518
Horizon will kill itself regardless of what happens with Phoenix
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>>2924518
Remember when Eden though it was the big kid on the block? Thinking it was invincible? Now it's reduced to ass, I mean ash. Maybe this will happen to Horizon some day.
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>>2924121
Only if I can fuck her
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>>2924518
Do you niggas still not understand Aerec is what's killing Horizon? Horizon will continue making false promises and custom slop for all those full BIS multi relic accounts thanks to Phoenix
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>new thread
>almost 100 posts
looks like US hours are schizo hours
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>>2924745
Kill yourself quickly numbersfag
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>>2924105
>they're making an entire new game as a prequel in old Azeroth from Warcraft 1 with slow classic mechanics but retail graphics
That sounds absolutely retarded unless they are gonna retcon the fuck out of it as most of the races wouldn't be available to play. Of course retconning it would also be retarded.
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>>2924982

If you havent been paying attenion they are throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks.

I love how blizzard can shit in these players mouths over and over again and they keep asking for more shit, its nuclear levels of stockholm syndrome.

Dont worry guys, it will be different this time.
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>phoenix trailer at 22k views already
Feels like the retail trial being revamped got the attention of some FF14 players but the trial being shit is going to lead some of them to playing on a fresh private server instead. The stars might have aligned.
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>>2925111

Well you do have a bunch of turtle players / ascension cucks unable to find another home because blizzard bent them over and reamed them bloody.

So now they are looking for another (Better) MMO to sink their time into.
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>>2924092
i remember when WoW released and the NA population of my retail server halved. For some reason when i came back 2 years later, all the chinese people were gone.
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>>2925091
that's what Kipling is doing, and you fags are too dumb to realize it.
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>>2925091
>Dont worry guys, it will be different this time.
PhoenixXi™
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>>2925136

Go back to your custom slop server faggot.
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>>2925148
Honestly rather pay Microsoft blizzard's jeetcoded EBT+LGBTQ+SJW alliance than play on your retarded "Eden but different this time" server
Sorry Kipling it's not me, it's you.
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>>2925144
>>2925136

>Same horizon cuck bored out of his mind / sunken cost fag worried about his server dying

Its okay anon... you can join us! you dont have to be Aerec's slave anymore anon, we'll accept you.
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I do find it funny that all these shills started popping up and are more aggressive than ever as soon as phoenix trailer got stupid popular.
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>>2925111
>>2925117
Does phoenix have plans for new camps? If not then shit's gonna be crowded. Not that wowbabs would survive long in FFXI. I'm not sure if they'd even make it to level 10.
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>>2925155
>Wings
We want Eden but single box, set in the WOTG era
>Horizon
We want Wings but not run by Gweivyth
>Phoenix
Totally not Wings this time guys
You guys could have wasted years of your life less if kipling and aerec just kissed and made up with Gweivyth
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>>2925179

Phoenix is the most polished era like experience to ever exist, the only one thats come close is eden and even that had a lot of out of era shit, stop being disingenuous.
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>>2925172
PLEASE PLAY ON HORIZON! BEASTY'S LIFE IS DRAINING IN REAL TIME AS HE VIBE CODES MORE HORIZON UPDATES

#SAVEHORIZON
#LOVEAEREC
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>>2925188
ok so it's wings but instead they spent more time on it?
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>>2925227
Yes but consider that there's no gay tranny running wings.
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>>2925231
yeah, no Gwei, no hyper mental illness. (Everyone who plays ffxi is at least a little mentally ill in 202X)
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why do people bring up wings?

that shit was so broken it was unreal when i played it, like brother there was constant lag in rolanberry fields a lot of the shit in wings content was broken or just didnt exist, the only cool thing about it was the refresh books
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>>2925239
>why do people bring up wings?
their feeble minds think the broken bullshit server is anything like modern servers
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>>2925175
https://campsitarus.blogspot.com/
There's plenty of camps already. You're just gonna have to use some slightly less optimal ones if the first is taken.
Or just show up to an occupied camp and bully them out.
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>>2925278
>You're just gonna have to use some slightly less optimal ones if the first is taken.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEe!!!!!1 I MUST HAVE GIGAEXP/HR OR I WILL RIOT!!!
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>>2925278
there's some unconventional camps that could work too at launch. like if you wanted to make money at the same time then you could do the crane flies.
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I have a solution. Play what you like. Why do you care so much about what everyone else is doing? If you care that much, I suggest a little self-reflection. Maybe some self help books, maybe some meds, or perhaps a therapist. Constantly worrying about what other people are doing is not healthy.
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>>2925242
Wings was around in 2024
>modern
you keep right on telling yourself that.
Phoenix isn't launching as a polished improvement, it's going to be a buggy shit pile before it gets better. Just like Wings was.
If it wasn't for Wings there would be no Horizon or Phoenix, every single one of these name faggots you schizos bring up came from Wings and/or Eden
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>wings
>around in 2024
now I know you're a troll. kill yourself.
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Wings was a topaz based server. Saying a current LSB server is the same is literally just lying.
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>>2925239
>>2925242
it's one guy
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>>2925278
>>2925301
honestly issue is that people don't know them so trying to get people to go there is a pain
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>>2925403
I wonder if it's Gwei being salty that xhe isn't running things kek
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>>2925418
would not surprise me
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>>2925175
The camps you think you know from private servers won't be a thing with roam regions.
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>>2925440
I haven't played many private servers but I remember on retail during era, that a lot of times you had to make due with random chain filler enemies because the puller couldn't find a good spawn because of the roam regions. They'd bring over a random T enemy while they go on an adventure to find something good. And then on the way back, a different parties enemy could have spawned b your camp to block their path. Sometimes they'd spawn right on you too, so having someone that can sleep or even bind was very strong.

From the sound of things, being more like retail is going to make Phoenix feel much different than other servers. It should be pretty fun to watch how things play out. The goblins spawning on parties in the dunes is gonna be hilarious.
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>>2925405
people are usually pretty willing on launch when everything is so packed. nobody wants to sit around waiting for a camp to open up. It's actually pretty cool seeing parties of 6 roaming through dungeons to get to alternate camps
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>>2925418
Gweivyth was a bitch but Aerec is too, and Kipling is just as bad as both of these faggots.
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>>2925628
lol
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>>2922841
>my wife left me
>my friends abandoned me
>l-life is good
Ive never seen a more picrel in my life
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>>2925637
Gwei is a turbo cumslut faggot retard nazi
Aerec is just a retarded tyrant

Kipling does things you think you don't like
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>>2925641
does he touch your bum hole and tell you you only think you don't like it?
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>>2925637
give one example as to why other than your tranny girlfriends on discord told you so

because right now he is leading the open source movement in private servers and is always helpful, so I see no reason to dislike him
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>>2925648
Aerec does this. 10x price increase on attachments from npc? You should like it.
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>>2925651
He did all the Era+ bullshit class balancing tweaks on Horizon, what makes you think he won't do the same thing his way on Phoenix?
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>>2925655
kipling was tard wrangling aerec the whole time

just look at how shit ToAU is once he's gone. its a fucking disaster. There's so much anti-player nonsense for no reason. So many ladder pulls it's unreal
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>>2925665
"Balancing game director"
Kipling was responsible for all of the bullshit Aerec wanted.
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>>2925655
because their code is open source and I have basic reading comprehension.

Are you actually serious with this? You and your discord trannies are mad about something that doesn't even exist?

Here - I will link you the PHX repo. Tell me where the custom job changes are located anon. Go ahead - https://github.com/phoenixffxi/Phoenix
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>>2925670
And Aerec vetoed 90% of suggestions to make things less retarded. You don't know shit, ask all the people who quit balance because of Aerec's bullshit.
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>>2925678
Sure, couple months down the road oh we're adding this, we're adding that, this should have been in era, but nothing else guys we promise.
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Reminder:

It was Aerec who was solely responsible for the Convert/Refresh/spell enmity nerfs and the utsusemi nerf. Whole lot of good those did, all it really served was to annoy people pointlessly.
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oh wait guys WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A POLL who wants Dancer to have Dual Wield at 20? i know its not era but fuggit
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>>2925689
oh so it's all in your head, got it. man kipling really did a number on you. weird little crush you got lmao
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You may not like Kipling as a person but he's doing a good thing for the community overall. Also, go ahead and take a look at all the products in your house and look up the owners of the companies. Most of them are pieces of shit. Basically, why do you care so much about someone's personal life unless they are doing something really bad? In which Kipling is not; he is just horny.
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>>2925711
I just HATE KIPLING.. ok???
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Should have named the thread Kipling's ball schlupper edition.
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everyone is horny, who fucking cares. most of the OPs on this board have big giant anime tits on them. 4chan trying to play some kind of moral high ground fagging is laughable at best. you niggas would crumble if your DMs with OF whores and other bullshit got leaked
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>>2925689
you're just making shit up in your head to get mad about
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anons crying about random name dropped faggots because they were slighted in some way? gasp, no!
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>>2925708
>>2925711
i dont even give a shit if kipling is horny, i just think that server drama being used as an excuse to reroll fresh is retarded. It was retarded when Aerec did it, it's retarded now that Kipling is doing it.
This is not Eden 2.0 now with single box and oh look people wanted mog wardrobes.
if I'm going to play on a server with retarded QOL changes I'll just wait for Zenith.
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>>2925716
sucking on Kipling's BALLS edition
>>2925730
suckem
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>>2925733
being fully open source is not "drama" no matter how badly your zoomer brain wants to label everything as "drama"
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>>2925740
LSB is already open source.
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>>2925733
The drama following Kipling's server is the same drama that follows every server, and it'll follow the next server after Phoenix, and so on.
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>>2925744
Sure it is bud. Now, next question. Is HORIZON open source?
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>>2925747
Like what? people being retarded over nothing?
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Gwei did your "bf" break up with you again? stop fucking spamming schizo shit
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>>2925747
"The drama" aka the stuff we can't quantify and just made up
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>>2925748
No, and neither is Catseye, and neither have to be because neither of these servers are distributing the codebase. They're only hosting it on their servers.
Unless phoenix is distributing the codebase which, i mean, why? open source under GPL v3 is fucking pointless. Anyone can just fork it and make it closed source again, and they will.
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>>2925720
>jerking off to real women in the big 26
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>>2925758
"why would we want to see the changes made to the server we play on"

- this fucking retard
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>>2925758
>it's pointless
you're an idiot
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>>2925750
Basically, all of the fanfictions that people write about anyone who's namefagged here. They can't let it go.
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>>2925763
>>2925767
it's a fork of LSB under GPL v3, anyone can just take it, fork the code, and since they aren't distributing the code further just keep it closed source.
so it's just modified LSB which is also open source.
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>>2925781
Pray tell, how is that supposed to be bad?
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>>2925740
while being fully open source is good, obviously all these people signed onto Aerec's team knowing that information would be obscured for the intention of "PAFO". That was determined very early on in Horizon's development.

I personally don't care about server drama because I just like FFXI, but clearly, there is some drama involved as well.
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>>2925786
IT JUST IS! OK??
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>>2925786
you want a medal or a chest to pin it on?
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>>2925787
Um you can't speak about me like that *puts u on tickets only*
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>>2925790
you bring nothing good upon this earth, vanish
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>>2925786
Catseye already does this. Why is phoenix acting like this is some kind of unique service they're doing for the community?
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>>2925801
so its bad now that catseye is also doing this? are you stupid?
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>>2925787
You zoomers are so stupid, you can disagree with someone and not have it be "drama". Not everything is "tea" or whatever the fuck. retard.


"omg they left to make a better project that is more transparent! drama!!!!!!"
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>>2925640

>T. Sexless virgin mad because kipling of all people is getting more pussy than you.

At this point anon i would suggest the rope.
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>>2925811
i think you have reading comprehension, spergy
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>>2925801
shitseye doesn't contribute upstream very much. maybe 0.05% of what phoenix has done or even less
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lol this thread always blows up when Setsuko wakes up from her unemployed child molestation slumber I guess
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>>2925809
catseye has been doing this for years and phoenix isn't even out yet, yet this is the sole achievement you attribute to phoenix like i give a shit.
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>>2925733

Bro you are retarded lol.
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>>2925850
>catseye has been doing this for years
Their repo was hidden for years because Loxley kept "accidentally" putting in packet injection exploits for infinite gil.

Keep up with the times, retard. All of catseyes contributions fore all eternity upstream are STILL a mere fraction of a percent of what phoenix has done.

Sure, catseye has helped fix/provide a few exploits to be fixed or whatever, but the gross amount of minimal.
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>unironic Carver's botnet defender ITT
uhh...
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>>2925861
the vast majority of cexi commits are loxley's custom content.
what's CEXI going to contribute? Party Finder? If Aerec or Kipling wanted to add this to their server they could, but Carver's name is going to be on it.
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I would rather see the rage baiting, copium huffing classic wow cuckolds than this drama shit, so boring.
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>>2925885
Nothing, because nothing they do is of value.
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schizo hours have began
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>>2925893
bro where have you, been it's schizo year
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>>2925886
the wow private server people are 10x more toxic, it's all furries and drama cliques, shills, paid shills, coordinated discord shills, etc.
We should be so lucky this mild drama is what binds us together.
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>>2925895
eu daytime is pretty quiet and reasonable in comparison
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>>2925787
I feel sorry for these losers for still being so obsessed with Aerec or what he does lol.
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>>2925946
*ruins your favorite jobs in your expac*
heh.. nothing to hate me for

Kanryu, Beasty, you take the fall this time. You are replaceable.
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>>2925956
Oh nooo not my corsair roll when exp is already PISS easy to get on Horizon!
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>>2926061
corsairs didn't use corsair roll anyway in exp
big deal. i never used it unless asked, it was always hunt/chaos or sam/fighter/chaos
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>>2926061
retard
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>>2926061
lmao yeah aerec is posting. your decisions are retarded fuck off
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>>2926138
That's not Aerec, that's Berec, his gayer, less evil twin
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I want to restart in Phoenix but the thought of being poor scares me, i might start as a Mithra and sell my soul to devil and dance naked for money in Sandy, sex sells.
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Please pick a race for me in Phoenix, i want to be a mage mostly (WHM,BLM,RDM,SMN)
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>>2926161
>dance naked for money in Sandy
>as a Mithra
are you stupid? why the fuck would an Elvaan dude give money to some immigrant AIDS ridden cat whore when they've got perfect women right there?
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Cry more babies, you don't have to play there.
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>>2926188
You must be fun at parties.
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>>2926161
everyone is gonna be poor
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>>2926188
Jokes on you cats can't carry AIDS.
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>>2926230
i lost a cat to feline aids you insensitive fuck
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>>2926284
Your cat is gay? or from Africa perhaps.
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>>2926289
idk he just showed up emaciated at my doorstep one day and i fed him, then i had to put him down, he was a pretty cool guy.
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>>2926325
Never forgetti anon's random kitty
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2 weeks until Phoenix baby, can't wait to relive 2003.
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>>2926369

Job and race?
Ill start: Galka MNK
Reason: Maximum ponch, side tank.
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>>2926161

For me thats part of the fun, everyone on a level ground and scrounging for scraps.
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>>2926512
Taru and job is blm.
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>>2926161
There's always money in the teleport trade.

>>2926536
A very rare time where you actually have to go around buying vendor weapons with gil.
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>>2926594
Skip that, WHM to 50, chocobo digging, mining, logging, harvesting, level something like clothcraft and print money selling shit gear to noobs.
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>>2926329
He was a good cat. My other cats are dumb as shit. I would have kept him around but he was about 20 and his owner probably kicked the bucket. We live next to a retirement community and these fucktards like to let their animals go when their owners pass away.
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>>2926662
>and these fucktards like to let their animals go when their owners pass away.
diabolical
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>snag the first post to call Kipling a sex pest
>half the thread turns into posts about Kipling
:^)
These threads are so fun for shitposting
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who is kipling?
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>I-I was just shitposting guys!
>I'm n-not a seething horizonfag!
yeah sure man
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>>2926831
settle down faggot lover. I too am looking forward to phoenix. kipling being a sex pest is just my favorite private server lore. no need to get upset
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got any proofs?
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>>2926900
they never do
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>>2926898
>kipling being a sex pest is just my favorite private server lore
What about Gwei being trans, and their boyfriend being trans, so its just being straight with extra steps?
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>>2926900
no this is 4chan fanfiction they never have anything except the schizo thoughts in their heads
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>>2926932
that one is also funny. kipling is just more prominent in the PS scene so i default to him
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>>2926932
>when you virtue signal so hard you go full circle
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Talk me out of rolling Sandy for the 10th time
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>>2927997
nostalgia > everything, but the only reason not to play Sandy is to experience something new, a small side of FFXI you haven't seen yet
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>>2926512
I'm torn honestly. I kinda wanna do elvaan but I'm enough of a faggot to worry about the stats so I'm thinking maybe go hume to be safe. There's always the temptation to go taru for BLM but at the same time I don't like dealing with mana.

Both on Eden and Horizon I ended up unlocking a bunch of jobs and leveling most of them a bit but never really dedicated myself to one.
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>>2927997
Bastok warps make it easier to get to BCNMs. Windurst has good CP items.
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>>2926185
Hume
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>>2927997
It's the worst nation. Anything else?
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>>2928271
gustaberg is nice but bastok is niggerville
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>>2928224

Hume is always the safest option which is why most people just roll hume.

Flexibility is part of the game, but with elvaan you can make anything work but BLM will be rough if you decide to take it seriously.

That being said i would argue a taru melee DD is worse because if you aren't alive, you cant do shit.
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Just 2 weeks left bros.
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>>2928348
>but BLM will be rough if you decide to take it seriously.
I don't think I will. I like magic bursting and magic in general in this game but how the mana is handled is a bit ehh. I don't know how it gets with proper gear as I'm sort of a noob and never got that far in the game but my understanding is that either you sit around a lot or you spend a bunch of money on consumables to regen mana. I'm too much of a casual to be spending my hard earned gil on that.
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Mage will be expensive at the beginning because you need to buy scrolls.
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>>2928413

Dont forget about the expensive ass staves and even some of the gear like Weskit shit.

Also "buying" scrolls is gonna be out of the question because people arent gonna be farming the big boy scrolls anytime soon.

Esp for the ice ones later on where you gotta go to the cave to kill those skeletons, better have a RDM fren to help with it.
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>>2928422
on a fresh start the basic scrolls cost a bunch
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>>2928406
melon juice for like 1.1k from vendors. kill tigers ez money for juice
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>>2928404
all 39 of our bodies are ready, this is gonna be the best launch ever
player count? just ignore it, haha
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>>2922869
cope and project you are both
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>>2925822
cope + simp for anime pfp
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>>2928454
And how many of those do you need to run in an average party? 1.1k to recover 90 mana is ridiculous from a poorfag casual perspective.
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>>2922865
Karone is a hag. Good taste.
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>>2928491
I'm glad we have an expert on the subject who's had that problem themselves
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>>2928500
You don't as long as you don't spam nukes and blow all of your mana every fight.
We had this setup a couple years ago where a red mage would buff himself up and hold a bunch of goblin beastmasters in zitah, I think there were six of them.
You'd have 5 24blm/12nins cast utsusemi then spam thunder 1 on the bat pets and just over and over kill them for exp.
Some pservers got wise to this and nerfed it.
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>>2928549
Bst pets*
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>>2928422
Drop rates on those really suck. I spent hours on blizzard 4, thunder 4 and stone 4 were easy to get, and then water and fire 4 and aero 4 all sucked actual ass cheeks to farm. They are 200k for a reason
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>>2928549
>You don't as long as you don't spam nukes and blow all of your mana every fight.
But then we get back to the sitting all day part. I didn't like how much I had to sit to regen. Like yeah you can micromanage your mana and it makes sense for the game for it to be on such a tight budget but I guess I'm just too used to games where you don't have to worry about it quite as much.

To repeat, I don't know how it is once you get geared. This is all based on my limited experience.
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You can tell people here dont care if Phoenix devs code WOTG or fix anything, they just dont want anyone playing on a different server kek
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>>2928604
black mages get at 20 a trait called Conserve MP, it has a 25% chance of reducing the cost of spells cast by an average of about 28%
Prior to scholar, BLM is a fantastic WHM and RDM sub for this reason. Once you get WOTG gear you can get a bunch of clear mind enhancing stuff and not just the +5 earring and boots+weskit
Clear mind 1 at 15 gives you A15 mp/tick, clear mind 2 gives ~18 at 30 and 27+ at 75 with CM5
You can also use gear to help with this, dark staff, errant body, etc. Every point really helps.
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>>2928739
are <<<they>>> in the room with us right now?
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My body is ready
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>>2928876
that hoe shouldnt wear orange with blonde hair
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>>2928739

Sunken Relic Fallacy
+
Aerec Stockholm Syndrome

Rough stuff man.
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>>2928990
Look, I need to farm another relic to justify my sunk cost.
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>>2929406
i just hang out in lower jeuno all day and do nothing, hearing other people doing things with their life even stuff like that that amounts to precisely nothing, makes me feel bad inside. I say ban all people with relics permanently, this is an afk only in jeuno server k
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>>2929415
launching a new server where all you do is afk in jeuno for good boy points to redeem for cosmetics

thats the entire server
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>>2929429
I’d play the hell out of that if I didn’t get banned for saying N in shout/yell
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>>2929481
all you gotta do is not call people N*****s, that's the whole game. Can you succeed, or will you become a statistic?
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>>2929485
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>>2929485
fuck off n'wah
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What job has the highest skill ceiling / expression in order?

Is it just RDM and PUP in 75 era ToAU?
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>>2929921
You can be the best pup that ever did was, and you're still a lolpup

Bard in general has the highest skill requirements.
You can face roll Ninja tank with consumables
Red Mage though?
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>>2930189
Skill issue if you can't make pup work.
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>>2928469
Phoenix should honestly use a player count bot. Worked well for horizon and no one will argue it.
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Did you know? Eden actually reports low and hides the players on /sea so only the best people stick around
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>>2930477
Pup is just a broken dog shit class that doesn't compete with anything else.
Pup wasn't fixed until well into adoulin and it's not going to be fixed on Phoenix unless those retards opt for custom fixes.
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Meanwhile on CatsEye where pup gets access to mochi/daifuku, adoulin tier attachments, and actual gear PUP is still a dog shit class.
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>>2930565
Cope
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>>2930570
Massive Skill Issue
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>>2930749
Skill can't scoop dog shit into a playable class. Have fun being 60% of the DPS of even a bare stock dragoon after millions in gear and attachments.
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>>2930778
It was less than that, lolpup did about 1/3 of a Sam or 1/10th of a rangers damage.
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DPS tier rankings list
#1 Ranger.
#2 Ranger without a kclub
#3 DRK probably.
#4 Samurai
#5 Monk
#6 loldrg
#7 War/nin
#8 NIN/War
#9 Thief I guess
#10 a COR trying not to stand around and do nothing
#22 Blu/NIN
#23: lolpup
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>>2930872
I was gonna chime in and then I realized I dont know if you're talking about ToAU with 0.75 scaling or 0.5 scaling on 2h with the altered att/def damage formulas
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>>2930898
Dark uses dw with axes, with a bard+cor+mkris or kclub DRK doesn't need a 2h to shred they just shred.
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>>2930872
why isn't blu at the very bottom?
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>>2930908
take a closer look at the numbers
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>>2930911
I did. It's not at the very bottom.
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>>2930925
you might want to sit down for this

BLU can actually deal more damage than >>POUP<< in "Era" except when doing very specific activate/deactivate shenanigans or maybe sharpshot vs birds
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>>2930928
no it doesnt. and requires evoker's roll.
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it does, I was there when the rules were written
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Why are ffxi players so pissed off at each other all the time? Everyday, Everywhere.
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>>2930973
If you were to make a pie chart there is a selection of elitist cunts who think they are good at the game, awkward nobodies who don't do shit but play anyway, sads, bads, and people who insist pup wasn't a class designed to separate retards from their money.
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>>2930987
can you be a bit more specific in all these things you listed?
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>>2931018
"I'm gay"
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I just wanted to play PUP again but Horizon went full retard. Maybe I should wait for Zenith.
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>>2931246
>accessibility server with trusts
What is the point? Just go play retail
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>>2931246
So play retail if era accurate pup isn’t what you want lol
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>>2931456
*rapes u* just go somewhere else if you dont want to get raped
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>>2931246
Catseye has the only 75 viable pup
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>>2931018
10% of players are elitist cunts who think they mastered this game 15+ years ago but in reality are just mid shit knockers who play in mid shit knocker guilds with each other
75 era FFXI private servers are the conceptual definition of the kiddie pool, and being the king of the kiddie pool isn't a flex.
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>>2931520
is it still bad tho
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>>2931527
i'm not a top tier pup, it's usable but DRGs and SAMs are going to be much better.
they just released 75 versions of empy weapons so who knows, victory smite might make them viable.
I'm building out an automaton tank set with -25% PDT/DT which will make a hell of a tank for certain bosses.
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>>2922643
I just want to play scholar kipling
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PUP has always been a meme / solo shenanigan job, if you dont like it play MNK or some other real job.
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>>2931715
I just like building the puppets and the gameplay is a bit more active than most classes.
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>>2931246
Just play Phoenix in 2 weeks
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anyone else getting a connection error when trying to connect to phoenix? it says there are 19 people online
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>>2931822
Sorry kid you got banned

Beta is closed now and I assume the player count is cached from just before it shutdown. there was a small "party" before it was shut down
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>>2931830
oh okay, i thought it was still up
thank you
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>>2931568
catseye has the good scholar. Maybe Zenith will too, who knows.
Immanence at 75 is awesome. DESU Scholar should get Regen 4 at 75 too considering they gave black mages T5 magic and white mages Arise.
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>>2931749
SE didn't fix PUP until Adoulin, before Adoulin it's like Scholar and Dancer, complete doodoo.
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>>2931526
The game was objectively better during 75 cap era. You can’t even play the game without JA0 nowadays.
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>>2932394
Never played pup. What did they do to fix it in SoA?

sch was always decent to good at 75 cap. Then they made it OP.

dnc seemed like a job designed solely as a subjob in mind. Really wish Phoenix would give it dual wield at 38+ but then they would have to give it to thf as well. Retail dnc was really fun during abyssea era
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these guys still think Zenith is gonna be a thing lmao
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>still can't decide what i want to take to 75 first on phoenix
i want to do rng as my 2nd job once i have gil but i'm not sure if i want to level a rdm, whm, sam or war. are any of those better to level at the start of a fresh server?
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>>2932397
if by better you mean trivial and requiring no skill for 98% of all of the content.
Every single thing in the 75 era is faceroll plus retarded HNM spawn times that made you feel some kind of gay accomplishment like look i wasted months of my life in dragon's aery with 100 other sweaty ass nerds and now i have a ridill
Everything on retail now is a gear/skill check.
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>>2932436
level thief first or white mage. You'll need alchemy and goldsmithing for ranger.
Skip Ebow, its for fags and tryhards, real rangers use silver bullets and look down on bow users as inferior life forms.
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>>2932436
WHM is slightly easier since everyone wants a healer and you can get around easier with teleports and sneak invis
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>>2932450
i was thinking of taking thief to 18~ first even for war or sam. isn't there too much competition for the thf slot in parties to level it to 75 first if you're not going to make your own groups? i'm not opposed to making groups but i'm not too keen on all the good camps.

>>2932462
whm sounds good, not having to worry about running bcnms for refresh at the start sounds nice too.
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>>2932445
>your mind on a decade of private server code
If you’re 10 manning Kirin on Phoenix with basic ass gear like you did on horizon, get back to me.
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>>2932489
Yeah I remember how it was on retail in the Zilart era. I doubt Phoenix is going to recapture that.
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>>2932489

These horizon kiddies are gonna get sent back to their 4 year old server once they try paladin taru and get insta gibbed at 70% HP by a double crit followed by an era accurate hard hitting TP move.
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>>2932574
The taru fears the sickle slash.
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Two (2) weeks until The Last FFXI Private Server Ever™ launches
https://archive.org/details/ffxi-2003-guide
https://archive.org/details/ffxi-2004-guide
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>>2932622

Its likely someone will eventually AI slop an unreal engine version of FFXI probably with VR or some shit, this will not be the last i assure you.
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>>2932581
more than the poison that lasts 3 minutes and takes 650 health?
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>>2932645

Thats just the final fuck you for trying to solo them without a WHM nearby.
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>>2932645
I remember sickle slash one shotting taru ninjas back in the day. You can dispel the poison but only a raise solves the ohko.
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>>2932485
Levelling THF on server launch is the most optimal time to level it, since groups will take almost ANY job.
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>>2932985
Yup. A thief with a crossbow and status bolts will be king turd of shit mountain for the first couple of weeks while dragoon/rdms and dark/wars are also viable and groups are getting 2k exp an hour.
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>>2932985
damn, that's a good point and i really would love to have thf leveled for once for a higher level TH. how would you go about leveling that on phoenix? like i assume you pop the anniversary band and push thf to 20 something and unlock your subjob but what then? are you leveling as thf/war or thf/nin? leveling up ninja to 37 early on seems like it might be difficult if there's not crafters pumping out shihei and i vaguely remember some thieves having a level 12 ninja subjob for a long time at the start of horizon.
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>>2933040
If Phoenix has any exp rings at all on launch good fucking luck you nogs can have that gay ass server.
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>>2933040 (me)
actually status bolts and shihei are both woodworking. so do i just push woodworking to 29 and then craft my acid bolts and shihei myself and take nin to 37 that way? i've never gotten into crafting before so i'm not sure how hard that'd be on a new server.
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>>2933061
exp rings are era, sir
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>>2933065
You get thief to 30 and grind alchemy to 40, woodworking to as high as you can. Make bast parchments from elm logs make black ink from nebs or cones. Get smithing to 15, make bolt heads, make bolts, get rich, get alchemy to 50+ make holy water+bolts, print money
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>>2933100
Get alchemy to 80+ make bloody bolt heads, print mo money.
Also make fishing poles for all the fishing bots. They can't fish without a halcyon rod
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>>2933100
i see, thank you. i remember elm logs being in high demand on horizon around launch, i assume it's gonna be worse on phoenix since they can't be stacked. so i'm not sure how many people can be supported by the guilds elm logs initially.
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>>2933138
Elm is gonna be crazy expensive and loggers are gonna love it

you'll be able to get some elm, but not a lot, from digging as well. but it will take a while before you rates arent shit. Digging will probably be actual shit generally though
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>>2932639
There were already some attempts at Unity and Unreal clients. No idea if they're progressing though. If it happens I hope they use Unity because Unreal renderer is fucking ugly. Makes every game using it look fucking ugly.
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>>2933150
Won't be more than 2k per maybe less depending on vendor prices.
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>>2933150
yeah, i feel like that's not going to be a great strat if i'm pushing to level to 75 quickly then.
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can I get a qrd on leveling crafts? I don't mean spoonfeed me which items I should be making, but rather how skilling up works
out of everything I learned playing horizon for a few months crafting was the one thing I never got into whatsoever
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Want to be a real mogul use that 30 thief to pound out some leather crafting and cloth levels, make field sets and sell them for money, level whm/rdm to 20, go mine darksteel/mithril/iron in gusgen/palb mines, pound out some smithing/gs levels and use those elm logs to eventually make darksteel picks.
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>>2933180
Ok so you want to make shit within 5 levels so even if you break and lose your items you can still get skill ups.
What matters more than making money is power crafting cheaply. There's always a path no matter what you're leveling that is less gay than the alternatives.
Sometimes you need GP items to gap synth stuff, it's a hell of a lot easier when you have +2 skill and advanced support to 10 gap something than trying to do so without it.
I wouldn't 11 gap anything no matter how cheap it is.
10 sucks, 9 sucks less, 8 is very doable, 7,6,5 are almost pleasant.
Crafts cap out at a specific level and once you get close the skill up rates start to really suck.
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>>2933167
what vendor prices?
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>>2933167
>>2933210
if they killed all vendor prices then the gil prices on the market might be lower but gil might be more valuable
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>>2933166

I doubt its gonna be anytime soon, probably within the next 10 years tho.
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Horizonbros...
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>>2933378
>Windower wins again
Unintentionally.
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>>2933395
Windower will probably need similar .dll changes and cuck horizons client

just don't update bro :)
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>>2933421
Yeah but Windower has a bunch of support and Ashita has this one guy who sucks a whole lot of dick.
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>>2933378
why does he type like he has a stick up his ass
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>>2933444
it was fixed less than 24 hours after it broke, you are retarded
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So is it a good idea on a fresh server to start THF? i have a feeling everyones going to be doing that... but i dont know what else to do...
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>>2933450
Because no one cares about horizon’s problems
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>>2933464
just b urself
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>>2933464
It's not like THF isn't a usable sub, you can just pivot to something else if there's too many THFs.
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>>2933464
play the game, make friends and do whatever you want
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>>2933378
why is she so angry?
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>>2933654
"can u help me fix a bug on a 4 year old unmaintained version of ur software? no i won't update plus my IQ is below room temp"
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>>2933654
Cope, seethe and dilate horizonigger
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>>2933697
>can u help me fix a bug on a 4 year old unmaintained version of ur software?
just say no, she got ultra defensive for no reason lol
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>>2933777
he just said no and explained why. Nothing in there sounds "defensive". If that was your read, you might be retarded, which makes sense given the thread.
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>>2933777
wasted trips on a complete retard
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>>2933450
Because he does (but it’s a penis)
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>>2933861
stop having gay thoughts
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>>2933654
he's mad because nobody plays retail
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>>2933464
early groups need WARs, WHMs and RDMs

there will be many more MNKs, THFs and BLMs looking to party than there is space for them
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Phoenixbros... WoW 2 is going to steal me away but I promise I will come back. I promise.
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>>2933378
who cares?
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>>2933061
most retarded thing ive seen posted all week
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>>2933378
he is just making sure horizon know their place
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>>2930575
pup is the only class that can solo donkey kong and got buffed with abyssia75 release
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>>2934673
Mario can solo Donkey Kong you idiot
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>>2934512

>WoW classic+ - This time things will be different edition
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>>2933061

You do realize horizon has out of era exp rates right? thats the reason you can farm EPs and DCs for really good exp per hour.

Most people used this to get 75 on HC characters.
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>>2934715
hardcore? more like cowardcore
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>>2934512
If there's a PTR or beta, that game is already fucked. The main appeal is it being different from classic but if people datamine it then it's going to be solved before release like what happens with every expansion and patch.
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>>2934722
Ha! Pwned
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>>2933464
Thief is fine. Use sword or h2h with /mnk until you can dual wield, then skill up your daggers. You'll be most useful as thf/war so you can provoke if a mage is dying
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>>2934706
mario is a pup in mario vs donkeykong
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The problem with era servers is the entire point of them is the first few years, where you're all leveling, farming and starting endgame. Horizon is too old, just as it took over from wings, so phoenix will take over from it.
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Lion should go nopan
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>>2934736
that's right. they think they are 1337 but they're just noobs
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>>2934804
catseye solves this
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>>2934842
solves what? the lack of corruption?
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>>2934844
it adds new content. Classic + !
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>>2934804
well yes, content is finite. eventually you will run out of content on era servers and you're stuck doing the equivalent of raid logging. the fresh starts are good because you constantly have a reason to log in and a goal to work towards.
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>>2933378
>v3 on can't be used on retail anymore
>v4 still doesn't have a proper launcher
Into the trash it goes.
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skill issue
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>>2934902
UMMMMM NOT MY PROBLEM CHUDDIE
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>>2934853
or you play a classic+ style server and get new content. This is preferable to fresh-cycling over and over again
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I want a real classic minus. Everything harder and worse on purpose and not because of retardation.
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>>2934940
the new content they make is usually shit, and also not what people remember and want to relive. So starting over every few years is better.
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>>2934953
It shouldn’t be too hard to scale back post 75 cap content. You have a baseline for mob stats you can borrow from other endgame content.
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>>2934946
I did this on warcraft and everyone had a blast but only the russians were crazy enough to do a 12 hour BRD full clear, most westerners just wanted ez loot and to move on. Horde could only tank with warrior if the warrior had single target bloodlust buff - alliance used druid and paladin tanks. Sunken Temple was a hell dungeon, it was great. Much prefered playing this to the metawhoring ice mage buff stacking classic meta on blizz servers. We had planesrunning

>>2934953
quality of content is often subjective. Chasing nostalgia is not healthy, though I can agree people want to relive single box low level parties.

Fresh cycling over and over again is not what the MMO genre is about. Ascension and Turtle did a good job of sustaining new content but they took aeons to get new raids up and running. City of Heroes is one of the only old MMOs to really pull off new content

With how maps are instanced in this game it would be possible to do like "Ordelle's Cave [s]" like a raid zone for 6 or 18 players.
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quality of life? more like cringe of life

give me 50 cap no expansions first update ffxi with no sneak/invis
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>>2934710
I remember trying it out intially and people raging over their dps meters in bfd. People are way too built to meta game even though most of them are terrible players.

It's the same in FFXI too. I really don't want to tank as a ninja but there's too many people on the private servers that will rage if you don't do it. Not to mention all the RMT and the cancer ESLs it brings in.
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>>2934804
the journey is the good part of ffxi
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>>2935020
for me its the scamming and erp
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>>2935004
NIN is a subpar dps past niche level ranges w/ ele wheel though, so doing anything other than being the tank you’re a waste of a party slot.
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>>2935026

Ninja is basically poo in ToAU, their mythic weapon sucks, their relic sucks, their DPS is sub par at best and at 74 people can basically do what they can do, the only advantage of ninja is you can use a sub other than /nin lmfao.
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>>2935026
>>2935032
I mean it seems extremely essential. But not just the job but other things.

In EverQuest classic servers, I could play less than ideal classes as long as I knew what I was doing. Like easily tanking as a ranger since i played other tanks all the time, kept my ac relatively high, while doubling as a puller.

There were meta tanks in City of Heroes but me and others did fine as the non meta and I didn't flip a lid if someone came with a Ice Blaster (dps).

FF11 classic servers are the biggest ones where is you don't do hyper meta thing, people will genuinely rage on the regular. Well that and lineage 2 but L2 is filled with Slavs.
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>>2935043
I played a good amount of L2 but I dont think I ever really understood how the game worked kek
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>>2935032
Correct. It can be used as a tank for endgame with considerable investment (compared to pld) but I always found it better used for low man stuff. Once dnc comes out it’s the best solo job in the game though.

Fun job nonetheless even outside of tanking
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>>2934987
cycling over and over on wow classic is the most fun part though. what isnt healthy is the sunk cost that comes from thinking anyone gives a shit if you get legendary equipment or clears. the best part of the mmo genre is always the first years of a server.
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>>2935054
that retard named thor generated some insane and entertaining drama
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>>2934987
XIM shows that custom content CAN work but you need to completely era+ everything and I think that sort of active encounter design would filter a lot of players that don't want to have to move out of AoEs or have people dispel or stun at the exact right time or the group wipes.

If you don't have active encounter design then the fights are going to be forgettable tank n spanks that only serve as loot pinatas. A truly ambitious new server could copy WoW/FF14 dungeons if they use the layering system that Salvage uses.
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>>2925188
>Phoenix is the most polished era like experience to ever exist
>just finished a beta where close to 3000 bugs were reported
>polished
lol
lmao even
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As opposed to horizon's bug tracker that they closed
as opposed to the bug report section where they tell you you're wrong and to PAFO
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>>2934476
The average low pop retail server's population is twice as high as Horizon's.
Sorry you had to find out this way, but you're mentally defective.
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>>2935180
"I am retarded and using lies on wiki to report a bug" isnt a bug

most of them aren't real
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>>2935043
>>2935048
I wanna get into L2 but all the servers are shit and filled with slavs and turds.
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>>2935180
>tfw you realize those bugs were on every other private server too
Thank those autists for cleaning up the game for you, every other future private server will be better because of them.
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Only on a ffxi thread can you find a community that actually files bug reports into the bug report tracker and somehow this ends up being a bad thing.
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>>2935189
Nigger if this server were as polished as you wish it were there would hardly be any reports at all. That's what polished means. Implying that 3,000 reports happened because your beta testers are retarded isn't helping your case.
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>>2935217
who fucking cares?
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Let me guess

Horizon is polished with its numerous bugs, retarded PAFO, broken events, broken attachments, etc
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>>2935222
Me specifically
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>>2935227
you should probably kill yourself then
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>>2935180


KYS faggot
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>>2935216
it is a bad thing because... uhhh
alright it's because it prevents me from selling gil on my server okay!? I admit it
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>>2935216
believe me when I say retardiation like that exists in every pserver community

just the other day someone was insisting that in te ra the inaccurate ground markers for boss aoe was a good thing
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>>2935230
>>2935231
Polished posts
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>>2935234
>just the other day someone was insisting that in te ra the inaccurate ground markers for boss aoe was a good thing
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>>2935217

>10+ people working in their spare time to make LSB way better raising all other private servers in the future

>Lol they shouldnt need bugfix

Like bro did you wake up and start drinking liquid lead or something? you must be the dumbest mother fucker in a 500 mile radius of where you are at with that kind of comment.
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>>2935216
>>2935241
Don't call your server polished when it isn't. What's so hard to understand? Why are you triggered lmao
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>>2935225
they probably didn't play on horizon at the start, you basically needed a pocket gm to do a bunch of the cop content early on. gms were watching dynamis runs early on too so they could clear any bugs, players were beta testing on the live servers.
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>>2935244
your mom is polished with cum
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>hey guys come check out my polished server
>but not yet we're still trying to eradicate all the bugs from it
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>>2935244

The only thing more polished than phoenix is your brain.
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>>2935198
it's not the same as it used to be. it's been made f2p and the whole game feels like a cheap korean grindfest when before it was a premium cheap korean grindfest.
Now you can just take your pick of better games. Lineage 2 has had an auto mode for years.
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>>2935248
At least they're trying to remove bugs. Imagine Catseye or Horizon fixing anything. lmfao
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>>2935245
kek remember when the mobs in tenzen's path were invisible and the lowest of the low nigger scum parked a tractor bot at the end and charged people for skipping
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>>2935257
Catseye regularly fixes things because it has an actual dev team. You're retarded.
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So if i decide to roll a galka RDM on a fresh server, how much pain will i endure?

Any tips on improving pre level 60?
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>>2935259
Sounds like a service to me, would you rather pay some heeb to skip 1+ hour of the most annoying content known to man?
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>>2935261

ah a retail slop cuckseye player, no wonder you are so bored, did you have a deep and enjoyable convo with your trusts earlier?
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>>2935261
"@grok add content for me" isnt a dev team
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>>2935262
you'll just be using astral rings and RSE until 75, nbd
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>>2935261
Misdirect to other servers is just their playbook. They have done this for a year now. They cannot take criticism at all and think their shit doesn't stink.
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>>2935270
NTA, catseye has a human dev team. I think you're mixing it up with Horizon.
A few of the people who are now developing Phoenix came from Catseye
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Phoenix had 2,691 bugs reported. 249 were duplicate bugs. 538 were rejected. 1,292 were resolved. 589 are open, and 23 havent been categorized.

Nearly all critical/high bugs have been closed and the team is working on the medium ones now. The majority of what's left is low priority bugs like "This npc says an out of era thing" etc.

We were able to fix a ton of stuff and appreciate the beta testing from everyone
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>>2935279
>NTA, catseye has a human dev team
proofs?

>A few of the people who are now developing Phoenix came from Catseye
that's not true
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>>2935279
>custom sloppers going to write pure era
nah
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>>2935285
And somehow this is a bad thing...
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>>2935279
Spicyryan is on Phoenix?
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>>2935285
I FUCKING HATE YOU AND HOPE YOU DIE
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>>2935285
>we
Kill yourself. This explains so much of the anti "other server" rhetoric and Phoenix shilling over the past 6 months. Glad I play retail.
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>>2935293
Kipling and Spicy teaming up... the dream team...
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>>2935296
Hell yeah brother
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>>2935298
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/forums/469-Accepted-Bugs/

>755 unresolved bugs just in the english section
Enjoy your unpolished garbage.
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>>2935298
Are you okay anon?
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eden doesnt have these problems btw.
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no one cares about eden bro only 10 people play there
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>>2935322
Eden has lots of problems, it just doesnt have any players that give a shit. Even if you look on their bug report section bugs get reported there all the time that have been fixed on LSB for ages. Talk up Eden all you want but its still based on DSP.
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>>2935322
yeah cause there's no players to encounter or report bugs
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>>2935336
>>2935332
>>2935329
doesnt count
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>>2935298
Yeah we knew they posted here bro it was pretty obvious.
>>2935322
Eden is pretty polished now. GL posting about it here though Phoenix has minimum 5 staff members who shill their pet project 24/7 in this thread
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>>2935345
Everyone ITT is a staff member of phoenix

The good? them
the bad? them
the neutral? also them
you are being controlled
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I am every poster
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>>2935346
It's been obvious since /xig/ inception. Phoenix staff were previously Horizon staff yet have the audacity to accuse everyone else of shilling for Horizon when it was them the whole time. Can't make it up.
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>>2935354
No...............
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>went to a phoenix testing event
>couldn't even zone into area where it was taking place
>polished
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>>2935355
How do we know you’re not staff of [current server I’m schizo about] too?
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>>2935358
proof?
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The amount of seething in here over Phoenix is actually amazing
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>>2935358
Skill issue
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>spend months shit stirring
>lol everyone is mad
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>>2935368
32k trailer views, pretty crazy. i'd be afraid too.
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>>2935368
Horizon only chuds and hangers on like Rahne, Electroslag, Hugin and Alaris spam this thread trying to do damage control because the thought of becoming even slightly less relevant due to their server suffering a decline hives them panic attacks. So they have to come here and yell about how contributing to open source and making new content and bug fixes available for everyone is bad, actually
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I'm going to keep playing on Horizon. I like being stuck on the old Ashita client, and dealing with bugs that were fixed upstream 6 months ago.
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>>2935382
>namefags
>all women
Sure thing Whinersolstice.
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>>2935286
Guess where Shuu came from? Ask him.
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>>2935355
excuse you? I'm here to #correcttherecord
(it's all true)
The schizos, the counter-schizos, you're being manipulated. This entire thread is controlled by 3 discord bots.
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>>2935390
Shuu was on Horizon team dipshit
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>>2935390
You don't know how to read retard, they were all former horizon admins
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>>2935385
based. Starting again every 4 years is getting old.
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it's me I am the discord bot
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>>2935398
(he did both) don't piss yourself faggot
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>>2935256
Honestly it sickens me seeing how most of the servers are for it. How can people stand to play on servers like that? The game needs a proper western server with no bullshit that blocks everyone except EU and NA IPs.
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>>2935401
you too? i'm also the discord bot
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>>2935385
6? how about 9 months ago...
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Rebase 2 will fix everything
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>>2935416
will they shell out for gpt 6 astra this time?
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>>2935401
>>2935413
We are all the discord bot
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Why don't you fags direct your energy to making the private xi player base larger instead of fighting over the 3000 people who still play this ancient turd pile
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>>2935434
Grown men would rather recreate a private server and cry on 4chan than go to therapy.
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>>2935434
I still occasionally see people in the Phoenix or Horizon discord saying its their first time playing. I do think thats happening, albeit slowly
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>>2935434
not your personal army
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Ignore posts from Rahne/Electroslag/Hugin/Alaris guys if you keep responding they will keep getting validated. They feed on the attention
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>>2935268
No. I’d rather spend 10 hours and wipe before I pay some kike faggot
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>>2935455
would shag all 4
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uh oh melty
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>>2935434
nobody ITT is contributing shit to anything but the shit pile.
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>>2935457
that guy just went in and was like "Loo dee doo activate clipper" and he pos hacked from one balcony to the next.
Kind of like that one mission in Sea where you're doing a 2 hour long escort and you can just pos hack through a door that doesn't open and save yourself 45 minutes of bullshit.
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>>2935494
>Kind of like that one mission in Sea where you're doing a 2 hour long escort and you can just pos hack through a door that doesn't open and save yourself 45 minutes of bullshit.
retail allows you to do that

just pos hack through it, click the other side

mission complete!
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>>2935494
That can’t be true… the devs and GMs of all private servers assured me that pos hacking was immediately flagged to the server for hacking!!!

Next you’re going to try and tell me fish bots and ApRadar are undetectable!
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>>2935508
listen, I've done this on every private server ever, as long as someone doesn't catch you doing it the GMs have no idea.
we're talking years of not even a whisper or a little jaunt to mordion gaol, "hey did you doo thisss?" no
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>>2935515
What!? Kipling will hear about this!
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>>2935508
"what's a p p radar?"
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>>2935515
Just like retail... haha... pos hack and don't get caught? you win
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>>2935535
Never been caught lol
GMs dont even care, they're too busy selling gil on the side
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>>2935555
I sell stolen feet pics I got from spying on /tell conversations as a horizon gm lol
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>>2935555
GMs on horizon dont do shit lol
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a GM gave me a blowie once while fingering my ass
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>>2935436
and grown women too
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>>2935436
and nongrown men and women and xisters
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>>2935455
At least two of these faggots are already banned from Phoenix. You wont have to ignore them
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>>2935601
None of them cheated as far as we know, right?
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Some days I am fairly sure that Orenji is just an AI bot posting in every horizon channel simultaneously to bootlick Aerec's every thought and decision
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>>2935641
the boot tastes like aerec's cum
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So is the anon in this thread spamming it up a:

Troll / Rage-baiter?

Genuinely concerned andy from another server afraid his server is gonna die?

Some jealous retail bot multi-box enjoyer?

Wow tard in the wrong board waiting for classic+ bot slop server that he will get bored of in a month post launch when everyone is raid logging again?

I cant figure it out...
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>>2935650
Yes. (It’s me)
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>>2935650
I am all of the above
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>>2935596
premium service
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>>2935683
yeah well I had to rat on my friends... so was it worth it?
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>>2935686
was the finger in the bum part of that or was that something else entirely?
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>>2935596
>>2935683
this really made me laugh a blowj with some fingerpopping really is a premium service especially unprompted

can someone recommend a good friday night game whilst waiting for phoenix or are u mfs actually playing other servs
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>>2935726
Castlevania SOTN is comfy enough
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>>2935726
I've been playing Sekiro it's really fun
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Horizon or Catseye coper really having a mental breakdown in here today. Picture telling other video games studios they're shit because they had to fix bugs before they launched. Did you forget your meds today?
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>>2935726
Personally I’m playing (fishbotting) Horizon so I can trade my gil for forum gold once Phoenix launches :^)
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>>2935802
forum gold... takes me back...
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>>2935798
They know they’re about to bleed a lot of players. Horizons TOAU trailer only got 9k views after months and Phoenix’s 6 day old trailer is currently at 32k+. The wave is coming
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>>2935345
literally not a single soul wants to play on an almost 8 year old server. you had the chance to relaunch and now it's gone.
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Eden 2 with 18boxing is gonna be lit
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>>2935843
Thanks for your input Phoenix shill
>2 bug points have been credited to your account
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why are they so threatened by a new server launching LMAO
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Sometimes it's fun. '3'
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>>2935857

Its time to hang it up old man, a new dawg is in town and this bull is turnt up, now get back in your XI retirement home.
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>>2935863
a polished new server btw
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>>2935864
Based
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>>2935864
I kneel...
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>>2935864

>>580615572
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>can't even cross board link
newfag-kun...
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>>2935603
Only Kipling cheats.
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>>2936192
Proof?
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>>2936192
Sorry, only Aerec* he edits the DB without telling anyone and removing the backups, whoopsies!
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>>2935818
After the initial hype and poop socking marathon Phoenix will taper down from 200 players to 40 players. Don't worry.
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>>2936256
Now this is what I call cope!
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>The first player to reach Cooking 100 is Aerec
There is no worse blind man than one who doesn't want to see.
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>>2936270
How is it cope? I'm not playing there and I don't give a shit. I'm just telling you how it's gonna be. You can cope or hope or continue being a dope.
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>>2936256
I’m not worried bro, I’m not clinging to Horizon desperately like you lot are
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>>2936256
Good thing we've got the daily "Phoenix will have no players" post done for the day. See you tomorrow for the next one!
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>>2936380
Aerec sends the bot not here
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>>2936304
He also got it at the earliest possible moment and had ninja help because he couldn't farm bees himself
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>>2936400
did aerec really get server first 100 cooking? what is his name on horizon?
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>>2936256
Earlier post just stated that you desperately cling to horizon. You were just massacred by >>2936349
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>>2936492
nta and I don't know if he had help or whatever slimy shit he could've pulled but he definitely was the first to get 100 cooking
Tera was the character he was used at launch, idk if he still plays on it
pic related is from February 5th 2023, roughly a month and a half after server launch
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If phoenix breaks 1k players I will leave Aerec's gay era- hellhole behind forever I'm tired of everything being nerfed in TOAU
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>>2936552
Think of it like this.. if phoenix has 100 players thats -100 players from horizon big W
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I think about phoenix everyday.
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>>2936552

Well considering theres 1500 online on phoenix and 3.2k joined up i would say it will be around that.
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Aerec could have named himself Johnhorizon and didnt, what a faggot.
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>>2936734
He calls himself Aerec-P and you his cockholster.
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>>2936742

Lmao, i knew he had an ego but that is next level cringe.
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>>2935535
wow was like this too, blizzard even once made a stupid fomo challenge boss that you kind of needed to telehack to beat and literally everyone that beat it, did.
actually everyone who played at a high level used these kinds of hacks, or worse, in every mmo i have ever played

sweats kill the fun in anything they do
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Phoenix soon brehs
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>>2937109
Thank god I’m so ready for it
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>>2936502
Wow you Phoenix shills are so fucking annoying, i don't think I'm actually missing anything not playing there. Maybe when it finally drops all 3 of you can finally fuck off? just a thought.
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>>2937162
No one cares horizon chud go be angry on discord or something
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>>2937176
Low IQ phoenix shill
Do you get the privilege of sucking Kipling's Kipling for shilling his shithole server 24/7?
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>>2937184
Tick tock Aerec fart sniffer your server’s days are numbered. I am enjoying your autistic meltdowns about another server competing with yours though
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>>2937214
i don't even play on Horizon, and i would have considered Phoenix if not for its retarded shill brigade
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hahahahahah yeah sure bro
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>>2937217
Sure man no one believes you or cares
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I wonder what the Phoenix schizo gets for shilling his retarded shitpile of a server 24/7
Discord title?
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>>2937253
you sound hellfire mad about it bro
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>>2937162
ok kid stay rekt probably on the pre-banned list anyway later kid
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>>2937109
the elf on the right has a really fat ass cumming lots of buckets tonite
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>>2937184
>woman hands

Does Aerec and staff blow their nuts inside of you even when you say no because you love them so much even after the abuse?
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>>2937220
>>2937229
>>2937304
>>2937308
>>2937314
I wonder what the Phoenix schizo gets for shilling his retarded shitpile of a server 24/7
Does Kipling-sama finally notice you?
I bet he thinks you're deranged
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>>2937308
not you
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>>2937345
> Woman hands offended
> Woman hands desperate to get the moral highground
>makes more Phoenix counter posts

No one cares
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>>2937345
Meds time schizo
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Phoenix sounds like a nice server. It seems to have a full staff, full set of devs, likes the players, and fixes bugs quickly. I might check them out.
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>>2937353
>>2937355
More samefagging from the samefaggot
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>>2937392
I hope you get raped and murdered
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>>2937410
Classic horizon response
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>>2937410
Server meetup?
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>>2937409
Jealous retard LOL
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I've played retail up from NA launch until WOTG release, dabbled in 99 era in 2015, played on Eden (Kupo) and Horizon from their launches. I still have no idea what would be the best path for early gil and setting myself up for success. You'd think with all that experience I'd have some good plans for getting going. But I'll probably end up playing slow as possible, constantly switching between jobs because I can't decide on one, farm inefficiently forever, hit my inventory limit from hoarding too much gear then lose interest after getting overwhelmed. And if Phoenix is going to be more accurate than Eden was, I'll probably die a lot more trying to solo. Early game FFXI is the best, though, so maybe I'll try. Thank you for reading my blog.
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>>2937217
its not just the shilling its that the shills seem very unpleasent
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>>2937706
>But I'll probably end up playing slow as possible, constantly switching between jobs because I can't decide on one, farm inefficiently forever, hit my inventory limit from hoarding too much gear then lose interest
Are you me?
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>>2937392
can you say nigger on phoenix
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>>2937217
no you wouldn't
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>>2937410
>>2937345
>>2937184
>>2937162
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It's not the community's fault Aerec built a throne of lies and abuses his position to feed his ego. He sits on his high horse and loves to humiliate others in private, but it's good to see something finally being done about it. It has been going on long enough that I look forward to this new era of transparency.
>>
if you fresh start as a MNK THF or BLM ur're a LOW IQ LEECH ASS
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>>2937978
everyone just got a huge buff to resist rate so BLM is not a leech anymore
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>>2937978
>mnk
best damage early on, especially if you're a bastokian

>thf
instrumental for subjob items

>blm
crab destroyer
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what's your favorite new server bottleneck? personally I can't wait to join an 18 player alliance in gusgen to roll against 18 people for a skull and compete against 2 other 18 player alliances for Ghoul spawns
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>>2938018
that one's gotta be it for sure...
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>>2938018
#1 ghouls
#2 quadav fetich parts/ding bats in krt
#3 kazham keys
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>>2938018

This guy doesnt know about the buburimjob, bogys have a way higher drop rate.
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>5% drop rate on skull in Gusgen, only 6% with TH1. 300 people in zone hunting after ~12 Ghoul spawn points
>15% (30% with TH) in Valkurm but Ghouls are spawn-slotted in with Goblins, so you have to kill them before night and win a 50/50 that they respawn as a Ghoul during nighttime

boys... I'm thinking we're taking the boat to Mhaura this run through
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>>2938037
there's only 12 bogys in bubu. it can't sustain a bunch of groups either.
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>>2938032
ding bats DEEZ NUTS!
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>>2938018
why not just, idk, go to buburimu peninsula and do the subjob quest there? Bogys are the same level as ghouls, and the hard item drops off a rabbit not a skeleton.
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>>2938073
there are bogys in VD too. 3-4 black mages will toast one.
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>>2938114
>and the hard item drops off a rabbit not a skeleton.
>bunch of lowbies gang up on a rabbit
>rabbit casts aoe
>now there's a bunch of dead lowbies
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>>2938018
occasionally going through Ordelle's Cave and still seeing 30 people at Morbolger 2 months into the server
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>>2938114
>Bogys are the same level as ghouls
I went and checked and the ghouls are 20-24 in gusgen but bogies are 23-24, some go are 24-25 and an outlier of 23-25

so bogies are generally higher but the max level being +1 is probably not that big of a deal. interesting.
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>>2938123
from what I remember of playing on horizon launch the high level ghouls in gusgen were a fucking nightmare because of the skills they have

couldn't find them on the wikis quick but I think there were two different weapon skills, one that regularly killed the tanks and another that would heal the ghoul to full

not sure how the bogy spells compare in danger level
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>>2938140
yeah lmao Bloody Saber is such aids
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The higher level of a bogy means its tankier so its much more difficult for a party of 4-5 18’s to kill one. Its basically a 6 level difference.
You’re going to need a healer
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>>2938118
>3-4 black mages will empty their MP full resisting Fire for single digit damage against a mob 7 levels above them

Nobody is killing bogies until the average party level hits the 20s, gonna be a lot of subless 25+ people early on
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>>2938173
It's 29-31 in VD or 22-23 in Bubu
Either way they go crispy to fire 1
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>>2938119
Skill issue, that rabbit is level 18
The hard part is the drop rate.
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>>2938122
I think you should have to have a nue's fang in your inventory or marlboroger shouldn't even be claimable.
Like fuck off shitters.
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>>2938122
this is the answer. there is no bigger cockblock in character progression than morbolger and mnks will change their sleeping schedule just to camp it. doing mnk as your 2nd job and getting the vine from the ksnm is better for one's sanity.
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>>2938256

I still remember sitting in that cave at that spawn for literally 20 hours just to get the claim in retail.
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>I know you all have lives and families and all but here's a mob you can only farm if you say fuck you to all those nerds and just spend every waking hour nolifing this retarded game.
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>>2938333
Only one? I need at least 12 of them
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>>2938328
it's a terrible farm. once you get the tod, you want to keep chasing it so you don't lose it and since it's back to a 21-24 hour spawn on phoenix it's going to be an even worse camp. it sucks to blow ksnm orbs it but it takes like 3 hours to farm 30 ksnm seals so just do that instead lmao.
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>finally log in
>send all 6 jobs to level 10 in west ronf
>work on crafting and fishing
>maybe take one job towards level 15 and move south towards the outpost, try pop JEJ once or twice

Imagine just doing a single job and rushing anything during the initial clusterfuck, couldn't be me

I wait for the /yell channel to call me, like a real sigma
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>>2938417
/yell anonymous shitposter #2938417 is a faggot
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>>2938417
>not getting your sj first so you can take everything to 10 as /mnk
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>>2938417
Oofies leveling THF WHM and BLM without /MNK in the starter zones is too painful for me. Especially with era exp rates. I'd rather poopsock my RDM up 18-20ish first so I can have a SJ for everything else and then chill after that
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>>2938421
LMAO

All I'm saying is that speedcucks/neetmafia need to invest in $ROPE. Imagine racing or rushing in this game. Pants on head retarded.

Authentic adventures await for those who open their heart to them
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>>2938424
>>2938426
>they think they're getting subjobs in the first week
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>>2938366
Play a real job like red mage, monk is a useless fodder job you will never be asked to bring to anything.
Its one of those "fun" jobs that sucks in an actual exp party unless they expressly need a first provoke and you get to sub warrior while the other DDs easily peel the mob off of you with their white damage.
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>>2938430
I had my SJ within the fist 24 hours on Horizon, just have to rush to 12 and be one of the first groups to move into Gusgen. I grouped up with a WAR and a WHM and we grabbed 3 MNKs that were around level 15ish and we just went to town. Just have to beat everyone else there.
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>>2938426
I was using /rdm to land enfeebles pretty reliably all the way to 37 on BST, I won't knock it.
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>>2938439
40* and this was on Eden not Horizon
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>>2938430
got mine in the first 24 hours like that anon by going to bubu during degen hours in the morning while everyone sane was in bed already. but on horizon there was a bugged bogy that was up during the day as well so it wasn't a terrible farm. (it was probably a feature knowing horizon)
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>>2938439
I wouldn't expect /RDM to have a good hit rate for very long for para/slow on sub only

As soon as you're 25 macc below the mobs magic evasion (mobs use C rank globally ATM) your hit rate is 50% base

hmm... I wonder when you did that, and if it was before we understood magic better. it's still relatively recent that magic has been better understood.
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Everyone is getting anniversary rings on Phoenix so the rush to the SJ items is going to happen very fast. Within a couple hours of server coming up groups will be clogging Gusgen
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>>2938464
within a couple hours I hope i'm getting plapped
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>>2938482
nice
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>>2938458
This was back a few years ago so it might take 2-3 casts of para but that's cheap for a spell that makes an EM enemy die easily to a DC charm pet.
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>>2938487
I need this to replace the Cornelia trust. Type in all caps. And say things like "LAKE TITICACA!?" "ARE YOU THREATENING ME!? I AM CORNHOLIO. I AM A GRINGO"
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>>2938417
>level 10
>fishing
who's gonna tell him
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>>2937978
Same if you play Galka or Tarutaru
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>>2937978
Same if you play as Mithra or Hume
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>>2938712
>>2938713
ElvaanGODS
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holy schiz i hope these guys stay on horizon
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>>2938713
The only leeches are elvaans
They have all the worst stats for weapon skill modifiers or any mage, making only subpar whms at best.
Galka are superior to them in every class that matters, even pld
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lmao fuck you faggots I'm going to WARCRAFT FOREVER
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>>2939002
>uh yeah bro STR which is used in fSTR on literally every physical WS is bad
ok
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>>2939004
not even kidding I'd rather play a WoW pserver than Phoenix at this point. I'm just that allergic to these shill fagatrons.
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>>2939009
This except about horizon
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>>2939004
>november 4th
you can play both
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>>2939008
Yes because you are also blind as fuck. Maybe your low INT made you forget about other stats retard
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>>2939011
about both
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>>2939020
The dex loss can be irrelevant. fSTR is essentially never capped except maybe on baby daggers
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accuracy is the easiest stat to come by in the game
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>>2939088
correct. If the argument was muh dDEX it has more to stand on but really only Mithra should chase dDEX memes imo
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>>2939099
is there even a significant amount of mobs you can dDex on? Like enough that you'd consider going Mithra over Elvaan for those melee jobs that can utilize it? Because on a small glance, STR/fSTR just seems so busted melee wise
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>>2938464
You're delusional with ToAU exp rates that people will be in gusgen that quickly even with an anni band. That first grind to lvl 10 alone is gonna take hours without anything skilled up and no subjob.
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>>2939134
>is there even a significant amount of mobs you can dDex on?
On difficult things? not really. Maybe a few merit mobs. on certain content where mobs are only T or so it's a lot more viable
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>>2939139
on the phoenix beta they had an event where people leveled in ronfaure for an hour. with the band weapon got to around level 6-8 i think.
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>>2939139
>>2939154
Spawns alone are gonna be a problem unless they bump the rates.
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>>2939187
they did.
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>>2939200
wtf is this Era+ bullshit
this is how Horizon tumbled down the path. Exp rings, mog wardrobe slots, and custom spawn rates.
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>>2939154
Yeah those people were wearing perfect gear, popping food no one will have in the first week or more, and had capped skills from testing earlier in the beta. Also it wasn't possible to set yourself to actually level 1, you were level 1 and 1 exp away from lvl 2.
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>>2939187
Kipling said it was the same thing they did on Horizon. Except now the Level 1s are more evenly spread throughout the entire zone, instead of all at the entrances like Horizon did.
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>>2939256
i made a new character with no gear and no food and hit level 6 and i wasn't even in a rush. i was just camping a single worm(this won't work at launch because spawns will no longer be static).
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didn't horizon have increased spawns for like 6 months
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>>2939247
Yeah lets not forget every job had tweaks, nearly all mechanics like haste had special tweaks, fast cast 2 specifically is nerfed, massive amounts of custom content, retarded ass custom behavior for NMs

yeah obviously phoenix is just horizon 2
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>>2939275
give them a minute
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>>2939275
Don't forget that Warriors on Horizon started with a Mandau for the first hour or so.
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The better question... was horizon wings 2?
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>>2939282
holy cope hahahahah
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>>2939290
is that the extent of your conditioning?
>HURKA DURKA COPE
KYS
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>>2939247
It's """era""" except for certain things which the staff pick. Sounds like Horizon but surprise it's Phoenix.
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>>2939337
Nothing is era on horizon.
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>>2939270
They still have increased mobs to this day. There's more level 1s outside all of the starter zones. It use to be an issue for people doing DRK quest because those mobs wouldn't count towards the quest and would fuck up everyone's kill count. idk if it's stil like that

What Horizon did on launch though was they had GMs at all 3 nations mass spawning like 200 mobs all at once every 2 minutes. I think they only did that for a few days.
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>oh my god, is that QOL no one will play without?
this is fine
>oh my god, there's MORE MOBS so no one has to do self dick slicing simulator without painkillers
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ITS TOO FAR

who fucking cares?
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listen I've already started over from zero about 7 times I'm not playing on your Phoenix server, it sounds like shit.
I'd just rather have my other testicle pounded flat with a meat tenderizer.
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>>2939586
10m gil has been deposited into your zenithxi account
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>>2939586
no one's asking you to play
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>>2939639
The voices in my head are
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>>2939586
You post like you’ve already been castrated so don’t think you have any balls to begin with chud
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>>2939586
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>>2939802
This but it's one guy talking to himself and not a group of guys
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>>2939949
Horizon chuddie spotted
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The last server I played seriously was nasomi in like 2016, is there anything a new about current private servers? I get its era but I figured I'd ask
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>>2940139
less bugs, less making-shit-up tier code
new addons I guess
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>>2940083
>schizo in denial of his own schizophrenia
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>>2940168
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>>2940251
it's so small dick small tit energy when bragging about where you're not playing
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>>2940251
Damn, that image really struck a nerve huh. Having a good meltdown?
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Horizon players don’t have anything better to do than try to discourage people about other servers since theirs sucks
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>>2940322
I don't play on Horizon, i just think that Phoenix shill spammers are humongous faggots.
Their constant shilling has had the opposite effect, and is making people not want to play there.
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>>2940430
Sure bro no one believes any of that
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WOW forever was just announced. You guys are so cooked.
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>>2940446
No one cares about wow bro this is an FFXI thread
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FFXI Forever now with a new playable race (blue Elvaan)
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>>2940491
>> Phoenix will split the playerbase
>> WOW Forever will take more of your small playerbase

Divide and conquer. Your FFXI is cooked sister
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>>2940528
Don’t care about wow bro only care about FFXI think you’re in the wrong thread brother
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>>2940528
>Phoenix will split the playerbase
lol fucking retard
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>>2940532
i hope it doesnt cuz i dont want to have to compete with more retards for SJ items and starting mobs, but i think they're going to have over 1k at launch
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>>2940446
WoW forever is gonna fucking destroy Phoenix. Your pathetic little pserver for what 34k views? In six days?
WoW forever got nearly 800k views and it hasn't even been 24 hours.
I'm already prepaying the next 20 years with my American Express Centurion card and just having scientists hook me into the matrix.
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>>2940566
it won't split the playerbase because no one who's willingly playing on horizon right now will play on phoenix, sunk cost and everything
maybe a quarter of the addicted retards will hop over
everyone else isn't on horizon in the first place
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>>2940566
1k? Where are they coming from?
All the Horizon players are streamer groupies. Phoenix is a little pissant server. Ninja doesnt even play here.
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>>2940573
How do you manage to fit both Ninja and Aerec's cock in your mouth at the same time lil gup
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>>2940532
No you are the fucking retard
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>>2940568
900k views in 10 hours. That must be devasting news for the population junkies of horizon to hear. #'s were their biggest talking point.
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>>2940572
I think at least half of the people without relics, who also aren't close to finishing one, will hop over at least to check it out for a while. I'd guess a lot dip out after they see the non stacking items and lower exp rates though
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>>2940601
Who cares about weak players like that
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>>2940568
>>2940528
>>2940446

>Look at trailer
>Literally looks like retail slop / ascension wow
>going to have bots bots and more bots
>$15 a month

hahahahahahaha, no thanks samefag.
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>>2940858
>> Looks at Aerec's 4 year-old cumstains on anon's face
>> Aerec's cock literally still inside
>> TOAU but it's already boring and stale

LMFAO hopeless shill. Kill yourself quickly
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>>2940889

>Its okay anon im sure they will clean up the bots just like they did on classi.... oh wait.....

>Im sure they wont add a wow token and mount shop THIS time anon... im sure of it... i mean its not like they did that to classi... oh wait

>Im sure they have good devs atleast working on the content... i mean look at what they did with season of dis.... oh wait....

Hey anon i think you dropped this, you're gonna need it later i think.
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>>2940902
lol hopeless retard big copium
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>>2941062
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>>2940446
I played on Horizon when Diablo 4 came out, the server was a ghost town for a few days. When GTA 6 comes out, that's going to happen to Horizon, Phoenix, and WoW Forever. WoW Forever is probably a doomed game because GTA 6 releases 2 weeks after it and once the normalfags go play GTA 6 for a month or 2, they're never coming back to their level 30 to 40 character on Forever because now they're "too far behind". And the hardcore players will be level 60 week 1 and then play GTA 6 during the downtime and potentially never come back. It's also competing directly against the Ocarina of Time remake for boomer bucks as they release 1 day apart. So Forever isn't going to be the same level as classic WoW was where all the streamers were playing it religiously for a while, because GTA 6 will be what everyone is playing when it comes out and a bunch of people will be playing the OoT remake the day after release so the streamer viewers aren't going to play it.

>>2940527
It'd be blue Mithra after Mithras are removed from the game otherwise and you need to pay $30 for it. They found a way to sell the most popular race (blood elves) to horde players instead of giving it to them for free, that's such a tremendous red flag. Forever is going to be completely fucked by monetization.
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Press the enter key sometimes niggy
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>>2941280
I wish this was the case but that never happened on horizon. Like the server or not, the population there has never dipped under 1k aside from after maint. Or maybe like 4am on a weekday cuz I’ve never been around to check them.

I think Phoenix will hit 800-1k normal pop
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>>2941280

I think you are overestimating the populartiy and reach of GTA6
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>>2941280
The difference is Blizzard can get away with this.
Streamerfags will be lined up to the door playing this and 60% of twitch streams are going to be WoW Forever shit.
Phoenix might get one or two streamers.
Blizzard is going to make another billion dollars, meanwhile Phoenix is going to be rubbing two nickles together.
>>2941297
This is a big IF Horizon manages to lose that many players. I just don't see it happening. Horizon has been the only server so far generating this level of success.
Wings only had about 750 players, Catseye might have 700-900 players on at a time.
It took both of these servers years to reach this level.
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>>2941297
It was dipping around 700 people back then iirc because people were checking out Diablo 4 instead. Then Diablo 4 sucked at launch so they were back like 3 or 4 days later. The camps were empty as hell, like 10 people were at KA instead of 40+.

>>2941299
I don't think I am and I'm someone that doesn't care about it at all. It's all streamers are going to play. It's all coworkers are going to talk about. It's the biggest deal in gaming in over a decade. There is a reason that every other game either moved their release dates up or moved them back to get away from that release date.

>>2941303
>Streamerfags will be lined up to the door playing this and 60% of twitch streams are going to be WoW Forever shit.
It's going to be too split with OoT initially and then once GTA 6 comes out, no one will stream Forever for weeks if not months. If there's a new GTA Online too then it's owari da, people will stream that over Forever. That is simply where the money is and where the audience is.
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>remake slop
>gta slop
>triple regurgitated wow stale puke slop
yeah modern gaming sure looks good bros
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>>2941321
>Save us FFXI private server com--
oh wait
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>>2941351
a cd key to unlock the new wow race for free has been sent to your email
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>>2941356
Yeah, nah, I'm good.
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>>2941303
>> This will affect the private server im threatened by but wont affect the private server i shill for
A full bottle of Aerec's piss has been deposited into your account
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>>2941280
> Death by a thousand cuts
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>>2941381
>A full bottle of Aerec's piss has been deposited into your account
*chugs it down* ahh that hits the spot. I love a broken game.
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>>2941303
Don't forget that toau is already going stale on horizon. Players got what they were waiting 4 years for. It's already getting farmed to death and boring.
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>>2941388
TOAU has been stale for 15 years now.
Perpetual TOAU is a particular kind of hell.
Hey guys we got a different auction house to stand around. Oh look some faggot running a casino who isn't banned yet
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>>2941388
Sorry, we ran out of content to steal
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>>2941388
it's because everyone was already fully capped before toau dropped. if you can do dev work while the players are still grinding then that's way better, that's what horizon was supposed to do when toau was due out a year after release. then having to wait months for small updates wouldn't be a big deal because you'd still be leveling alts or going through cop.
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>>2941312

>LE HECKIN STRIMMERS AND MY FREN AT WORK TALKIN ABOUT IT

Yeah literally 100% of the planet is excited dude totally..

Im totally going to give $100 USD to a Modernized (DEI max'd) game where the only real fun you have is mowing people down with a gun or a car... lol

You have fun though bud, ill be keeping my $100 on something worth while.
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>>2941406
GTA 6 is going to get cracked on day 1
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Cant wait for the spastic retard tourist making all these alternate video game post to get banned on phoenix for being a spastic retard and have an absolute meltdown on here after he sinks 100s of hours to get to level 20 .

Im pretty sure i know the exact person it is on discord too, ill keep yall posted.
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>>2941419
>using groomcord
Couldn't be me bros

I am hurt about the whole wow forever thing too imagine taking turtle wow down and not just re-releasing it as your own product (it is literally better than what blizzard are putting out)

Fuck it bros once phoenix drops atleast we'll have somewhere to be comfy and rewatch Twin Peaks
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>>2941388

You mean the 75 maxxers with 4 relics zooming through content? no way! I totally didnt say this before they released it several times! i had no idea!
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>>2941422
This is groomchan
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>>2941422
Turtle WoW was a low effort cash grab, Shenna wasn't this visionary who made a better world of warcraft.
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>>2941429
>anonymous basket weaving forum
>groomchan

If you get groomed or psyoped from being on 4change for too long it's your bed you made it you lay in it. Instagram, FB, Snapchat & Tiktok are direct mind control fonts, atleast with 4change if you avoid r9k, pol and gif l you are mostly shielded from that level of rape - there are issues on /v/ itsself too with shills and organised discord mind control attempts but they are very obvious
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>>2941425
<ThePoopSocksaugeers>
Dookie links edition
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>>2941433
fishing line falling into water.gif

Tell me you never played it without telling me. Cashgrab yes - i despised the shop but low effort, no. Shenna is a euro criminal that could die for all I care, but the real dev work done on turtle wow was second to none hollywood cinema kino - did you play it at all? the way they expanded the whole fucking game properly - nothing can really compare. They took the original lore (History of Warcraft) and ran it with heart and soul.
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>>2941440
Shenna did none of that.
100% of that dev work was done by other people who got paid nothing for it.
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>>2941442
ya that's literally what i'm saying
it's a great shame longdale and her cabal didn't just direct port it because the devs really caught lightning in a bottle with turtle
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>>2941450
its not gone, the whole source was leaked and reverse engineered, or Shenna's just running several servers with the same core and pretending it's not her doing it.
Problem is Shenna did none of that, and the developers aren't involved anymore. So whatever you have, that's it.



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