Here We Go Forth Again (Again) Edition>Season 15: Season of Hell's Legacyhttps://news.blizzard.com/en-us/article/24295394/celebrate-30-years-of-diablo-in-season-of-hell-s-legacy>Patch Notes:https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/article/24295394/celebrate-30-years-of-diablo-in-season-of-hell-s-legacy#Patch>Resources for builds:https://mobalytics.gg/diablo-4https://maxroll.gg/d4https://d4builds.gghttps://diablo4.gg/>Miscellaneous (event countdown, leaderboards etc.):https://helltides.com/>Trade:https://diablo.trade/>Codex:https://diablo4.cc/Previously in the Sanctuary: >>2575295
>>2941564the word of the day it’s: ‘Grim’
The OP put more effort into the webm than blizzdrones did into last two seasons.
>>2941477I do play poe. I also play Diablo. Poe is good yes but there needs to be a healthy competition. I wanted to like Diablo 4, I truly did but Blizzard can't stop self sabotaging. They need to fire that jaded fuck joe Shelly. He is responsible for Diablo 4. We can't trust him to make Diablo 5. If you rewatch the presentation you can tell he doesn't have an ounce of passion for this game.
why bother? lol
I have a level 54 Sorceror on Eternal built for Incinerate shit from like 6 seasons ago (I have equipment giving me free fire hydra and other stuff) but it reset my skill tree and also I still haven't done the enchantment quest, I was supposed to put Fireball on something. Like enchant it with Fireball so Fireball shoots out of corpses automatically, or something! I don't have Lord of Hatred. I need to farm like 500 more Eye of the Overwatch.
>>2941564Nice OP. On topic, we're all a bunch of cucks for playing D4. Hope we all enjoy our nostalgiagoggle Prime Evils in a few days.
>>2941930>Hope we all enjoy our nostalgiagoggle Prime Evils in a few days.Having Diablo in Diablo is neat, great the devs thought of that. So for better or worse I will try to enjoy it. However they really dropped the ball with D5 announcement and spilling the beans about the plot. Outside of completing season(s) story wise it doesn't really matter what they do in D4 because we know how it largely ends.Then again how despondent the mood has to be over at d4 dev team that blizz went and cleared D5 before fixing D4. Not to mention the rainbow technicolor behind next diablo with Shelly at the helm doesn't really inspire my trust. I agree with >>2941714. They should get someone who wants to make the game. The same with that whale anti-gamer wahman who's the narrative director. You're telling me they couldn't find anyone more qualified with hear and eagerness to write the story?>we're all a bunch of cucks for playing D4Hear hear. Nostalgia and emotional attachment are a bitch.
The excitement is palpable.
>>2941669For me, it's betrayal. Why abandon D4 after just a few years? It's insulting to the fans and just bad for the franchise.
>>2942112tbf d4 is not redeemable. the idea of an open world sounded interesting and grand on paper but felt flat in reality. most of the things you do happen in small linear 90-120 second dungeons. no one uses the big manually crafted world as it was designed.
>>2942112>Why abandon D4 after just a few years?nta but my guess is the situation so fubar now that only a new game can fix the issues (unlikely but there it is) or it was always their plan to do a rugpull. not good optics either way
D5 exists to fix Fat Druid.
>>2942118That could all be fixed imo, or at least just continue to ignore the overworld and focus it all into dungeons. The story wasn't done, Diablo never showed up, all that time and cosmetics that won't transfer, and they never even completed the game in terms of settling on the talent tree and paragon. >>2942123I don't think it's even a core problem with the game because D5 is going to use the same engine and it looks just like D4 with the exception of the doll, which is awful. It's the same team making D5 even, and the core problem with D4 was that they didn't know what kind of game they wanted to make. Slower paced dungeon crawler vs zipping around wiping entire screens.
>they recreate the theme levels of D1Okay, not bad.
Rod had suggested D4 had a ten years plan for support and I recall them saying that possibly even all of Sanctuary could be in the game eventually. This is just a rugpull, and it doesn't even make sense to announce it now when it's still so far away. Who is going to keep buying shit in their live service game that is basically EOS while the next installment is three years away? Total unforced error.
>>2942140no one cares about the story desu especially not the people who are making them money (whales and mtx piggies). read a big if you want a good story, video games are the wrong medium for that. I say that as someone as a person with probably over 10000+ hours in d2/d3 and d4 combined and skipped every single dialog since d2. I havent even bothered watching the cinematics in d4.
>>2942154It really is, there's no other way to put it. I won't argue that D4 is Blizzard's cash cow, but it's not sustainable with the open world gimmick that no one uses like >>2942118 said. Honestly, I rather get fucked in the face now than have another five years of "season of the X factor" that this season shows to be no different. The one thing this season has going is they showed legit effort in recreating D1/2 into D4 for the season.
3 years and the whole skill tree got a single change which made it worse. 3 years. three
>Warplans are acct wide nowHoly shit FINALLY
>ASPECT OF DEATHNANI?!?!?!?!?!?!
>>2942168I say that to give an example of how the game is incomplete. You may not care but a lot of people do. I've enjoyed Diablo lore since I was a kid too young to have been looking at it. I don't need it in my face at every turn like D3 but the presentation of the others was good. >>2942170I'm just so blasted about it I may not even play D4 anymore desu. Maybe I'll have a change of heart but it's just total betrayal, and I can't imagine the seasons after this will be anything other than life support and rehashed prior seasons. I'd bet Diablo is their second biggest franchise, a distant second to Warcraft, but still deserves respect and this is just disrespectful for the fans and also a terrible business strategy on top of it.
>we're going to face the aspect of deathSo who succeeded Malthy in the end?
>>2941908actually I checked and I do have enchantments unlocked, alright alright alrightI have 40~ hours to farm 500 "Eyes of the OW" cause I have FOMO about the Kitsune thing even though I realized while playing I barely ever even remember my little dog dude exists.what's the best way to do this?lvl 55 sorc, Eternal, no-Lord of Hatred? Just run from Helltide to Helltide? I barely even remember this game's mechanics this was the only time I ever got this high level on a character and I never played the campaign. I'm playing on Hard.
>amazon is gender locked>amazon is femaleAh so the rumors about blizz turning the tide on trannies etc were true all along. I wonder how troons will chimp out over that. On that note why wasn't Barbarian or paladin gender locked? They were never meant to have female representation as a class, the latter wasn't for sure>>2942168I for one enjoy the story immensely. Say what you want my man but it's what drives this franchise. Just because retards are hired as writers who shit on source material - og games, books, doesn't make it obsolete. On the contrary.
>>2942207I wanted Sonya, leave my big fat titty wife out of this.
>>2942207Barb and paladin (at least crusader) had precedent for females.
>>2942213>big fat titty wifebut famalam your druid wife is gonna get jealous
>>2942222Scrilege.
>>2942222Maybe it's for the best they're killing D4
>>2942220Crusaders sure, but paladins are a different tale. With barbs I could see it being a thing, after all we had that option in D3 as well so it's nothing new. Story wise I could argue that's counterintuitive to the establish lore (and devs just vindicated me because they used that argument for d4 amazon) but I can let that slide. And kinda related but it's funny how Immortal of all iterations got a decent amount of face models for classes and druid doesn't look like oversized karen you pass by in an aisle doing groceries.
>>2942271>face models I meant models, not just face morphs.
>>2942271I just assumed that there must have been female paladin at some point because of how crusaders take the names of their masters.
>>2942271where is this from? immortal?
>>2942118they needed to go all-in on it and make lost ark with a diablo skin. it doesn't help that they also caved immediately and added fast travel to dungeons within, what was it, the first week of launch? so that open world they developed became meaningless immediately. and nobody gives a shit about the pvp helltides or whatever they were. anything that was open world was immediately made irrelevant by their own decisions.I haven't played this game since first month of launch so idk all the changes.
>>2942287Well, there was Fara (D2 blacksmith) iirc who was a paladin trainee or smth and abandoned the church. But it's been so long ago that I could be misremembering thing. Still, 99.999% paladins were dudes. Nothing bad about it just like amazons being all female.
Amazon is female only because having a male called Amazon is retarded, so they're just making a cope excuse after the fact.
>>2942302I liked the overworld, not sure why everyone's shitting on if all of a sudden. They didn't give anyone a reason to PvP so that's on them, but world bosses were fun and helltides and whispers were at least on the right track. These games need something like that to break up the monotony of just spamming dungeons or whatever and the open world made it feel more alive.
>>2942304Yeah, I'm glad and actually surprised they aren't allowing male amazon, it's distinct from the other classes which can have some of the other gender.
>>2942321wait a minute... there is no male amazon version? thats kinda sexist
>>2942328>>2942335A little trivia for you:There ARE male "amazons". There are Death Ravens that existed during Reign of Enmity and these groups were leading these groups and/or were part of them.There are also mystics who could be considered an equivalent of sorts to amazons, though they wouldn't be melee combatants more so casters.
>>2942360Obviously there are males within their society, I mean from a class perspective running around with a javelin or bow and that's been all females.
>>2942381You're twisting my post a bit. I mean sure there are males among the askari but simply in class design context you could make a male counterpart if you really wanted (and knew 'da lore'). It's obvious that's budget constraints, deadlines, skeleton crew or combination of the three that lend themselves to such choice of classes. Again, I'm not gonna lose sleep over gender locked amazon. It's fine.
>>2942398The game is done at this point, who would even pay for amazon anyway
>>2942322if they stuck with the original plan of needing to manually move between dungeons it would've helped the open world a lot.
>>2942449Agreed, the team caved on a lot of important things they shouldn't have just from listening to the vocal minority.
>>2942472idk it doesn't surprise me all the people left at blizzard are incompetent they don't have the talent like they did in the 90s/00s, they used to know how to stick to their guns and listen to feedback to get the real message out of the feedback. if somebody complains that the fireball is OP nerf now! you don't just remove the damage/aoe from fireball, you can take an indirect approach like adding more fire resist.literally every single game they have is improperly managed. removing immunities in d2r? overwatch balancing? d4 balancing? wow balancing? forced gameplay through achievements? dark souls has achievements too, but they're about collections, get all the weapons/spells, kill all the bosses, not about "teehee you need to kill the boss with the feather tickler maid wand equipped and only using your fireball!"and the company is way too large with too many layers of management, and they're captured by White California ideology...
>>2942518I don't think they'll make another great game again, at least until they free themselves of Microsoft and suicidal commiefornia ideology, but they started off listening to the fans. I was frequently contacted about the game and gave them the idea that would eventually become the codex of power, but then it went silent a little over a year ago and I'm guessing this is when they decided to scrap D4. I assumed they were looking to streamers which is why they made it closer to D3.
>>2942551>but they started off listening to the fansthats nowadays not a good thing. the listen to a very loud minority. its either retards on reddit or their official forum. at this point it would be better to just stick to your initial idea and completely ignore fans. I saw what that led to in d3 and d4. thats all assuming they have a masterplan and and an overall idea what they want to do with their game (which they dont)
>>2942604Exactly, they have no idea what they want for diablo. They try to please everyone and end up making nobody happy. They need to split the players up between several IPs, the ones who want D3.5 and the ones who want a dungeon crawler.
>>2941564So what we do know about D5? >Set 100 years after Diablo IV (nice to know how 4 ends btw)>The Sanctuary has succumbed to Diablo and everything is in ruins>“A new Diablo for all kinds of players” kek>“More classes than any Diablo” - confirmed classes so far: Demon Hunter, Monk, Plague Knight>Procedural generation in dungeons and in the world>All the towns have been destroyed. You travel with your caravan of NPCs, artisans, and merchants who will be your "mobile town" similar to D3>Item system inspired by D2>"Create clearly designed items that are memorable and worth trying to obtain for hundreds of hours">Tetris inventory from D2 and D3 is back>Actual set items return>Requirements to equip certain items possibly returns>Complex crafting system>Runes and runic words like in D2>It seems like this time Diablo will actually show up in Diablo
>>2942644d3 didn't have tetris, it's like d4 without tabs.d1/2 have tetris.items are tiered like they were in d2, instead of having them linearly scale at every level. d2 was also more creative, giving the normal/exceptional/elite qualities different names [kite shield / dragon shield / monarch] but they're still in alpha so you can cope that they will change it later instead of marking them as tier 1-6.if they stick to items having stat requirements then you can probably assume you get to assign stat points again.stats on items don't look interesting though. I wish people would adopt the breakpoints style of equipment from d2 and early wow. that's what leads to interesting item choices when you start minmaxing. instead of just stacking attack speed on every single item because it linearly scales infinitely, you can reach a breakpoint only getting it on half your gear so you can decide which pieces you will go with attack speed and which pieces you will go for other stats.
>>2942689>d1/2 have tetris.Yeah I guess d3 had candy crush. Yet it was miles better than D4, which speaks volumes.
>>2942644Also:>Diablo is now a morally grey character:https://youtu.be/blmyIDbxN2o?t=616Wtf are they smoking. D5 is going to run this franchise into the ground if these karens are left to their own devices.
>>2942873bro it died in d3 when they killed cain with fucking butterflies.
guys what the fuck does a gearless Sorc skill into and spec for to farm elites? chain lightning? or a fire build?
>>2942873>blizzard has created some incredible characters>Sylvanas>Lilithclown world
>>2942873It's the commiefornia world view. That good and evil are relative or a matter of perspective. I think it's why it took them years to add the paladin, and D5 will not have one, it's going to be this plague knight. They started to do it will D4, but I'm sure 5 will fully embrace the player character becoming demonic themselves to defeat Diablo.
>>2942881D3 at least had the decency to draw the line between good & evil and the game ended on a high note. For me D4-D5 are the Twilight Zone of Diablo world. Fuck off with that revisionism devs.
>>2942873Is that not Hamburger Hepler, 15 years later, *right there* in blue??
>>2942873I want off this ride mr. skeletal...
>>2942873Is this thread all ESL?>Unlike Lilith or Sylvanas who are morally grey, Diablo is not, he is not redeemable or misunderstood.She's saying Diablo is definitive as the Lord of Terror. If you think that suggest moral grey aspect is forcing yourself to get mad over the wrong things.
I really tried but this game is too fucking boring, I wanted to bang out the overwatch shit last minute but jesus christit can hold my attention for like 8~ hours but I'm so fuckign done at this pointwhat a waste of fucking time
>>2943467nta and you're right, but keep in mind how they handled Lilith and all the wank that ensued up until VoH expac. Simply because they say he's not redeemable etc. doesn't automatically mean it's the way he'll be presented. So it's more so what these "people" are capable of messing up rather than what they say. Until we see the story nothing's set in stone. Everything is possible with these fellas.
I wish I never even bothered playing Diablo 4. So much wasted money on battle passes and cosmetics. I kept playing thinking they would finally make it good. Turns out it was on maintenance mode since 2023 when they started developing Diablo 5. They seriously think people will want Diablo 5 after the fucked us with Diablo 4?
>>2942322There are only talentless hacks at Blizzard now. People crying to unionize and keep their cushy jobs when they don't have the ability to make a decent game.
>>2944888Checked. I was talking about this with someone the other day and it hit me when they asked when was the last time Blizzard made a good game. The people there are talentless and just living off the success from twenty years ago that they had nothing to do with.
>>2942644also>it was supposed to be the new diablo iv expansion but they made a new game instead> same devs, same itemization, same engine that div> All classes galoreit just feels WRONG from the get go
>>2944805>>2944947>>2944986yeah who the fuck is going to buy Lord of Hatred now?I bought the game at launch and barely played it until very recently.Now not only do I have no desire to play the game anymore really, it just guarantees I won't ever buy Lord of Hatred, even on a DEEP sale
I'm level 57, I need 362 more "Eyes of the Overwatch", there are 22 hours left, can I make it?
>>2945427Are you serious? Who cares, the cosmetics are getting memory holed and support for Diablo 4 has ended.
>>2944986To add insult to injury:>no more expansions (the only DLC we are getting is the amazon class, like necro in d3 was)>any and all story threads/addons to the game will continue in the form of seasonsThe game got effectively and unequivocally killed. Ultra kek.
I bought Diablo 4 at launch with a gift card my ISP gave me.I will never fall for your shit again, Blizzard.
Wow, Incinerate fucking sucks dick compared to Blizzard. It was the cool build when I last played or I thought it was but I *literally* just replaced it with fucking Blizzard and I rape everything like 100x as hard. A single Blizzard cast does like 60k damage before even calculating for the bonus shit and I'm only like level 61 with basic ass leveled drops.
>>2945252They are planning to release another class and expect people to play it, not to mention pay money for it. This decision and the announcement makes no sense just from a business standpoint.
>>2943467>She's saying Diablo is definitive as the Lord of TerrorYeah, right after mentioning "discussions" about the nature/morality of Diablo and they "kept arriving at the same conclusion". Haven't you watched the video? In their own words: there has to be a discussion about the inner workings of Diablo's mind and his motivations now. Diablo's a bad guy. Period. There's no discussion to be had. For fucks sake this isn't some elden ring, shadow of the colossus kind of character. If you don't see how her even saying that is a problem that will seep into that game's very core then we can just agree to disagree. Because that is a problem (on top of hamburger helper out there).They will fuck up the story even more than d4 and that's gonna be a goddamn achievement let me tell you.
>>2942873>that's what giving females voting rights has led us togrim
>>2945644>no more expansionswut?
Are bad steams reviews true? They locked abilities and content retroactively unless you have the DLC?
>>2946224PCGamer interview with Brent Gibson>We're all focused on [Diablo 4] seasons and getting to Diablo 5>We feel like we told the Story of Hatred. We had a great conclusion with Lord of Hatred with what we have with Mephisto, and we are moving towards telling the Story of Terror
>>2946248Yeah, which is why base game D4 is not worth it.
>>2946215>when we start exploring his character, we love a good morally gray character on the Diablo team. One that begs the question of wait hold on, does this person actually have a point? Are they right? It's always a good debate and Blizzard has created some incredible ones: Sylvanas, Lilith. It's natural for us to lean in that direction when we started working on Diablo, but pretty quickly we kept arriving at the same conclusion.>Diablo is Diablo, he is the Lord of Terror. He's not redeemable, he's not misunderstood, and that gave us a lot of clarity. So the question now becomes not is he right, but what happens now that he's won? In Sanctuary, you're not necessarily in this time you're not exploring that through the stories of character that you're running into. You as the era of Westmarch, you are experiencing it firsthand.>Yeah, so I love Lord of Hatred -- did anyone else here love Lord of Hatred? I thought the team did a fantastic job with that and I think the thing that made it so amazing to experience was the depth of that relationship you get to build with Lilith and Mephisto. By that point in the story, you're not just a wanderer anymore, you are central to the story of these eternal characters. We wanted to build that into Diablo 5 from the very beginning -- you are going to have a unique bond with Diablo that you find out over the course of the game: why and how it came to be...Tit for tat or moving the goal post, I'm not here to argue over this dumb shit -- you're free to be skeptical and doubt the diablo dev teams because they have absolutely shown ZERO respect to D4 players that held the belief we would have 10+ dev cycle and support like D3 had.I am upset as anyone else here who bought D4 and there is zero comfort of Microsoft/Blizz in doing some sort of legacy discount of some sort to D4 cucks when D5 preorders launch.
Taking a quick look through the notes, barb has been nerfed to the ground and paladin/necro are have both received like 200 buffsCan I actually expect something different in the meta this new season?
Someone hype me up this season I'm not sure I'm feeling it. Spiritborn or paladin if I do?
>>2946881Or druid I guess I've never played one
you guys are retards desu the game will be five years old by the time d5 comes out. anyway idk if i'm gonna do slutborn or warlock tomorrow.
>>2946881Had they announced skins carry over to d5 I'd say banger cosmetics worth grinding for. Otherwise maybe the fact it's the season of memberberries is some kind of selling point to some people. But it's another season of powers with some instances ported over from d2r. And check out diablo animations in his boss fight, it's super disappointing - he just sits there waving his hands up and down like a disgruntled elderly in a line and tanks your attacks: https://youtu.be/DQpmhw46EUY?t=749
>all these fags who claimed d4 is good and will get betterlollmoaabsolutely destroyed
Can't wait to play Diablo Of Duty 5anyway new season in less than 4 hours, I play warlock because I haven't played it yetnot reading patch notes
>>2947510>I play warlock because I haven't played it yetgood saar, I play paladin
>>2947510How's Pally this season? I heard he's getting buffed. I want to finally play him after I did that back in December.
>>2946215He just never was able to get past the fact that Diablo viciously killed those angels.
>I want my literal fragments of actual, factual, pure evil to be morally greyHoly shit you faggots are gay as fuck...
>>2947608>He just never was able to get past the fact that Diablo viciously killed those angels.Who's "he"?
so are warlocks still bait? they felt so unbelievably clunky previously, hard to believe a few minor changes would fix that
Paladin or Necromancer?
Warlock bros its time
error 300008 bros its our time
>>2948118Same brother LET ME IN
>blizzard having server problems on launchWho's surprised?
>>2948169I normally login fine every season.
Its the last season to give a fuck about D4
>>2948175Yeah, but this is clearly the "last horrah" for D4.
>can't even log inUnderstandable. It's only their 15th fucking season.
>>2948206For me it's doing a long patching process even though I already preloaded shit.
>>2943467>Lilith and Sylvanas>morally greyMaybe when seen through the eyes of a sociopath.
>>2948217what did they do?t. lorelet
>>2948209Preloading is a scam. Every time I preloaded a game I ended up waiting far longer than if I'd just downloaded the thing on release.
>>2948218TLDR is they give you the sad puppy eyes after murdering countless innocent people and everything is forgiven.
>>2948218nta, but mowing through innocents during "a woman moment' only to be completely absolved afterwards is a dead giveaway bli$$ writers know shit about fuck when it comes to "morally grey" characters
I'll just keep trying to log in eventually it will let me... right?
3000008
GODDAMNIT BLIZZ JUST LET ME PLAY THE SHITTY GAME YOU ABANDONED
>>2948201you doomposters are cringe
>>2948297he isnt wrong. stop being a delusional dickrider.
Mmmmmm...Boots...
>>2948304Yeah you are. People who played random seasons up to this point are not going to stop so they can stare at a diablo 5 logo for 3 years. As for bursts of casuals, Amazon class release later is probably going to bring some. Probably more than this particular season which doesn't actually have anything novel in the level of a new class.
>>2948314people like you are the reason why games like d3/d4 never went anywhere. instead of allowing legitimate critique you are sucking blizzard cock no matter what kind of retarded crap they shit out.
I'm in.
>>2948297>calling anyone doomposter when blizzard just rugpulled your gameL M A OMAO
>legitimate critique>"bro this game is abandoned lol"Maybe if you wanted to have legitimate critique a discussion could be had instead it's just spouting bullshit. The game isn't abandoned and they have told us what the future plans for 4 are. Until we see otherwise we have no reason to be doomposting so hard. And why are we pretending a 6 year cycle between 4 and 5 is a bad thing? If they didn't announce 5 yet you guys would just be doomposting about D4 lasting forever and this being the "end of diablo". So really you just would never be happy either way, find something more constructive to do than bitch about a game you weren't gonna play anyway and stop pretending you want a discussion on the topic.
>billion dollar company btwlul
>>2948372yeah lets trust this company one more time despite them producing only shit for the past 20 years. lol
>still getting 3000008d 2 hours laterIt's a small indie company, please understand.
This is insane. How are these people working on this game?
>>2948209>For me it's doing a long patching process even though I already preloaded shitif your internet is faster than your harddrive/processor, don't preloadpreloading is for people with shit internet, never preload unless your internet is dogshit, if you have FAST internet don't preloadthey have to use your hardware resources to unpack and decompress and decrypt the preload shit, live update just downloads it with your internet and overlays it
bros i somehow have 14,000 platinum (i think it was one of those latenight drunk-gaming purchases). wtf do i do with all of that before d5 launches? and before you ask, yes i've already bought all the slutmogs
Druid or paladin this season?
>>2948488Idk man, finding a use for that within 3 years will be very hard I'm sure.
>>2948488Stare at it and realize how much of a fucking idiot you are.
>>2948490what's even good now? i guess we have time to decide since the servers aren't working right i was thinking of going SB, cause it's been a hot minute since i played that class
Marcoose is Blizzard CMRollback likely to happen due to rebirth carrying over more than it should
>>2948504i'm probably gonna do sb. was thinking of trying warlock again but i hated that class so much when i played it on release and don't want to quit the season early again because of it
>>2948372>"bro this game is abandoned lol"It's abandoned the same way last seasons of D3 were which is a skeleton crew left to churn out another season of powers every 3 months.>And why are we pretending a 6 year cycle between 4 and 5 is a bad thing?Who's pretending? The game that earns them money, which D4 despite all its flaws still does (kek), and has passionate team of people who play their own game behind it can go on for years on end. PoE for all its bullshit has been actively developed since 2013. Co. like Blizzard can easily finance long running projects, they have all the money in the world to make the game good but apparently the team lacks the skill, will and talent to make that a reality.>If they didn't announce 5 yet you guys would just be doomposting about D4 lasting forever and this being the "end of diablo"Ah you see, but there's the difference. If they didn't blow their pitiful wad on D5 you'd have people complain about the state of d4 yeah. Justifiably for the most part. Only with D5 being a thing now, we have definitive proof whatever was in store for D4 is getting axed. Blizz will funnel only enough money to keep current game afloat until the "new" one (the same engine as D4 and D3) arrives . Therefore you can surmise that "diablo (4) is dead" not that the franchise was particularly sweeping the world besides the brand name.
>>2948512what is there to evaluate here lol. reset and move on
>>2948516a buddy was telling me how warlock is going to be so great this season and OP, and i was like NO THX. i'm with you, i can't stand the playstyle of that class, and i hate not being able to see anything on my screen.
Pack it up boys
>>2948579jej
>>2948579lmfao I reinstalled the game to try this season.
>>2948579This is the last nail for me. Fuck Blizzard.
>>2948679good begone
>>2948579don't even know why I checked to see if it was real of course it is fucking real FUCKING BLIZZARD
>Retarded devs somehow fucked up rebirth when literally ALL it has to do is carry over name and appearance tab settingslol?
Got a joke for you anonsDiablo 4 season 15 launch xmfd
>>2948579what a fuckup of a company
>>2948579is this an out of season april fools joke?
SEASONS UP FOR REAL I JUST MADE ONE
>>2948579goddamn gacha games have millions of players login during new seasons and everything works to a fucking T
Whats the cheapest way (preferably without giving money to blizzard at all) for me to play D4 and see if i like it?Can i just buy account from one or something?
Is Paladin finally getting some love after months of being overshadowed by every single class?
i'm in it and just did the first little questy bit. awwww i think this is going to be a good season!
>>2949181LOL
>>2949236welp, it's another barb season then
Oof
why did they disable ssf lol
>>2949352For context of above postHotfix is up but no ETA on when SSF will be enabled
ngl this is one if not the worst seasons starts I have ever seen and I am playing d2,d2r,d3,d4, poe 1 and poe 2 since 2012. not even joking, this is borderline insane.
Just got home from work, about to hit the gym.SSF better be fucking fixed or else I'm powershitting all over my dog.
>>2949412Blizz said not to expect it today
>>2949417Blizz, this is your fault what happened to my dog.Remember this post.
this season is SO great if you played through the other diablo games. that nostalgia hitting so hard rn also it feels like the pacing in the quest and early leveling is pretty good. they did good with this one (even though there are some glitches -- sorry SSF bros)
dude the d2 reliquary armors got me hyped
>>2950004and i guess a mix of d3 with witch doctor and dh
>>2950005yeah i went ahead and got that with all the platinum i need to spend........
>>2950004I'd have to spend money to get them so why should I care?dead fucking game
>>2950119being poor sucks!
>>2949901leveling is super smooththe flashback dungeons are blatant fanservice but of the good kindmakes you wonder why all the other seasons were so barebonesalso ran into a few ruptures in helltides, seems like they went core
>>2950004>no underboob on my sorcwifegrim
I boughted the switch 2 version
>>2950182lmk what you think im probably gonna do it too so i can play in bed :))
i think i preordered the expansion a while back or somethinghopping on now to check it out
>>2950193still downloading I’ll report later. I played the initial launch on pc game pass but like you I just want to kill and loot stuff while being all cozy in bed
this game is so badass, for the online community to just be a bunch of malcontents
so playing as any of the free classes like warlock is just retarded if you're not buying the dlc crap right because it's meaningless after 1 week instead of the normal 8 weeks or whatever
got to 70 but didn't feel like playing further until tomorrow. this season seems fun but i say that every time and have given up fairly quickly the past couple.
Doomposters really ruined this general. Diablo 4 is great and has a bright future ahead of it. New season looks good too.
I'm going to try to play this season with controller once ssf is back up, people say controller works great with d4 so I'm interested to see how good it is
Engaging in blast having
>>2950943>has a bright future ahead of itabout that...
>>2950193Game plays beautifully on the NS2! Performance mode is running at 40fps but it’s super smooth thanks to 120hz + vrr in handheld mode. But my tv supports 120hz + vrr too. One massive issue though: the dlc skills are locked due to a bug lol
k where is ssf? its been 24 hours lol
>never play druid>check out those paid d2-d3 transmogs>be met with pic relatedTruly there are man made horrors in this game one would have never expected to see. Also, I still consider D4 druid to be the shittiest looking class in diablo franchise. Fucking DEI fucks.
Are strongholds still the best way for the post-60 stretch?
whats the comfiest class to play in the new season?not gonna go balls deep. just wanna grind a little and see diablo and baalNO barb/paladin/SB though, played those two seasons ago
>>2951921Warlock and Rogue are both strong this season
>>2951928I'll probably do Rogue thenAnd fuck off from the game after this season until Amazon cums out.
>>2951804i do strongholds because i'm a little 'tistic about my map....
>still no SSFFuck shit faggot fuck.
>imagine caring about SSFHuh...
>
so I just finished the lord of hatred story. Now what? The seasonal quest?
>>2952455yea
>so many classes and builds to choose from >can’t decide >end up rolling ww barb againim a simple man
>>2951520>UPDATEtalents work as intended now
only paragon 80 bros
>>2952586I'm so simple that I didn't even look at any tier lists or builds before rolling ww barb.
>>2952586>>2953752I'm probably gonna make barb too. I made warlock but I it feels so weird. The damage is there but I find casting demonic spells and not succumbing to those powers super odd.Man I wish they hadn't run paladin into the ground with all the nerfs.
you now remember neyrelle
So does the new league actually have anything D3 related beyond armor or can Leah go fuck herself?
>>2953828That some vendor in of the 500 hubs or something?
I’m overwhelmed. So many systems and icons on my map and I don’t know what any of that shit means.
>>2953955what level/paragon are you at
>>2953958paragon 23. i finished the lord of hatred story, did the seasonal quest and ran this undercity wartale a few times. but i can’t ever torment difficulty until doing seasonal chores apparently so I’m doing that next I guess
>>2953963no idea why I’m calling it a wartale btw I don’t think that’s a thing lol
>>2953963>>2953966you're close, probably a warplan :) focus on just doing the seasonal objectives, upgrading your gear, tempering your gear at the blacksmith, putting relevant aspects in your gear, doing warplans. maybe check out a build guide if you get lost.
>>2953955It can be a little overwhelming at first but just go to the war table in Temis and start there. Also do the seasonal quests, they're pretty cool. You can go to your map and click the 'teleport to Tyrion' button in the bottom left corner to get you to the wartable directly quick.
>>2953942It's mostly D2 and 1 nostalgia bait, D3 nostalgia bait season is soon to come, I'm sure.
Fucking joke of a company
>>2953942yeah it does have some D3 stuff --i went into a D3 portal, and i've killed some D3 monsters. also apparently whimseyshire/whimseydale is in the game. i found a black mushroom last night :)
>>2954186next week they'll announce ssf will be disabled until next season
What's the purpose of SSF other than "keeping up with the Joneses" with a useless feature from PoE?
>>2954416competition. you dont have to compete with streamer and rmt at the tower/pit. yes I understand the game is not very competitive and you clearly dont care but others do care. playing trade and refusing to trade is not the same.
>>2954428>competitionI was #15 necro in the tower all last season while not bothering to interact with anyone and running my own minion build.People are cattle, anon.Who cares if I'd have been #1 SSF?Being #15 completely legit against cheaters/rmt/ect is even more impressive.
>>2954623>Being #15 completely legit against cheaters/rmt/ect is even more impressive.no, not really. thats the whole point of ssf. I know for a fact at least everyone in ssf didnt trade/get help/rmt. I dont know you, you are a random person on the internet why should I believe you.
>>2954186The team has moved on to Diablo V, please understand.
i made a pally and im having fun
>>2953942Whimsyshire, some popular D3 uniques (Leoric's Crown, Nemesis Bracers) and you do some D3 missions in the portals>>2954106Last season was literally a Reaper of Souls sequel
lol they actually disabled ssf for the entire season because of some unforseen problems with rebirth. a dev just commented on reddit. you cant make this shit up.
So I unlocked T3 but killing stuff takes ages. Should I farm T1 until I get better gear? Also are actual powerful items crazy rare or why are all drops basically pre-torment tier in terms of power
>>2954623Okay faggot.
>>2955810Okay, troon.
Is rogue still doing negative quintillions or did they hotfix it?
>>2954991ssf people are fags anyway
>>2955849Considering it's still top class in the pit I'd say it's very much broken. Joke company.
>caring what glitch abusers do on a broken classGet some fucking perspective.
Seligs useless now im hearing?
>>2949901You sound gay
>>2955867I see projection is beautiful this time of the year. Nothing wrong with pointing out devs negligence my dude.
>>2955898>pointing out dev negligence in a dead game on an unpopulated board on a thai ladyboy maccaroni art posting site that the devs will never look atTalk about wasted effort.
>>2955907Im a diablo 4 dev. I looked at anons post. I will be relaying it to the rest of my team.
>>2955907I don't consider it a waste of any kind, plus I'm on my free time Anon. I do appreciate your input, truly.
>>2955946I really wish you weren't full of shit.
I am installing D4(bad) for the first time. What should i expect if i only played poe1 and 2 in arpg genre.Wanna play with druid is he fun?Whats the general loop for early game?
>>2955883 but i'm the clan mom...... >>2956336druid is fat, but his auto-casting lightning and cataclysm skills are great for lazy gameplay. make a seasonal character, cause eternal realm is dead. the usual general loop is to do the seasonal questline and then do activities according to the warplans board or whatever endgame activities you want to do --but i've heard some people recommend to save the seasonal questline until you're lvl 70 to get the guaranteed unique drops at max item level. anyways you probably want to play through the main story campaign for the first go-round, right? by the time you're done with that you'll be max level, so dive into the season quest then.
fuckass crow is bugged and i can't claim my loot box i needed that shit to progress to the next season page
>>2956412same. gg blizzard
>>2956412looks like i picked a good weekend to travel out of town. maybe by the time i get back, all of these kinks will be ironed out. how did they manage to mess up the whisper tree crow of all things...
>>2956412SameAnd my dlc skills are locked AGAIN.
Forgive my retardation but what's the point of going in the portals
how is your season going? what tier are yall grinding? i think i'm in t3 (haven't played since yesterday whilst drunk) but i think if i respec i can go higher i just hate doing that
>>2957153>how is your season going?like shit i'm hardwalled by the crow bug and the last few days i've been getting disconnected like crazy even inside dungeons which means i have to start the whole thing again i almost don't even feel like playing
>>2957047probably best way to get seasonal rep, i'm guessing?
>>2957153I haven't started it proper, I just played a little bit of Warlock free trial cause I don't own the expansion...I've only ever played a tiny bit of Necro, and played a lot of Sorc, Sorc is the only character I've gotten to 70 and beyond.Apparently Warlock is insanely poweful? But starting out it feels really weak and I really can't tell what skills you're supposed to get. I mean, it also feels like it could be really really cool and fun.
have they said anything about the whisper collection situation bros
why can't I just spend like 4 dollars to unlock the class I want instead of a bunch of other slop
>>2957794the expansions aren't slop dude they have mechanics that actively make playing better. well maybe not voh but loh does
>>2957817okay but I'm unemployed and I COULD afford the expansion for like 22 bucks but then I wouldn't be able to buy a 6gram THCA cart for October so I can be high on Halloween night, I'm saving my money for the vape cart for october
>>2957841based. gotta keep the priorities in check
>>2957843I'm not even kidding when I say that if they hadn't announced that D4 is basically on maintenance mode with D5 coming I would have been 10x as likely to buy the expansion and get a smaller cart.I am literally proof that their retarded announcement is costing them money. Just saying.
Holy fuck, how is it still possible after all these fucking years to launch a season in which nobody can log in, later followed with a ton of bugs and broken features? Not to mention that fucking D5 announcement. They shot themselves in their feet.Is D4 so fucked up that they cant bring a few people with some common sense to fix it? God damn!
>>2958041you can't login?
just woke up and ssf is still not available. what a joke
>>2958142Now I can, I meant the launch day.
>>2958142No I can't because they removed ssf from the game.
>>2958578>ssf
>>2959004Nice pussy
>>2959004I hope D5 can resist the compulsion to add pets and other shit like it.
>>2959024that's not a pet! that's henri's perquisition!
I just can’t stop playing sorc
>>2959059This but barbarian. Its peak dad gaming.
>>2959061What other dad specs are there?I had a miserable time playing ww barb until I got that aspect that regenerates fury when a shout is active
>>2959122I'd assume minion necro.
>>2959030>hello, I'm here for the drag queen story hour Maybe it's for the best D4 is getting scrapped
This is the worst season start in an arpg that I have personally witnessed and I have practically played every single league in poe 1 since 2012.
Well I'm gonna play warlock since I've never touched this abomination. Once that's done and then proceed to making comft ww barb and/or hammerdin.
>Caches are STILL not fixed
Alright where my SSF, don't make me powershit all over my fucking dog again.
>>2959529not this weekend. might be disabled for the duration of the entire league. something about having to reset the entire realm or whatever and they are trying to find a work around. one of the devs or community manager is active on reddit is sharing the current status.
>>2959535I'm a very lucky man going on a business trip next week. Maybe that weekend on my return SSF will get fixed and not disabled entirely. Or else I'm shitting all over my dog every single fucking day.
>caches bugged>dlc skills bugged on switch 2 STILLmight request a refund. this is pathetic
caches are fixed
SSF IS LIVE
>>2959415All hands on deck for the WoW shit if they don't fix it today they probably won't fix it until at least monday
>>2959815I guess I can finally play, felt like it was at 80% chance they'd just give up on it for the season
>>2959817What's going on with WoW?
>>2959865Beta for their classic+, WoW Forever
>>2959870Word, I heard beta had a login queue like the old days.
>>2959815See /d4g/? They consistently stressed the thought of a second shartening on my little dog. You can thank me and my quads this season.
>>2959004The hell is this tranny?
>They fix the crow but>Unbearable lag everywherebravo blizzard
Paladin status this season?
>>2960970Don't care bitch nignog I'm going Zeal Paladin SSF and give zero fucking shits. I'M MILLENNIAL CHUDMAXXING BEFORE MY TRIP.
I find it very hard to play the older classes.Paladin and Warlock just feel so much better. Maybe Spiritborn is like them too idk I haven't played one.
>listening to the journal>look at
>>2961553Spiritborn is fast and snappy, with cool cross skill type mechanics.The only classic class that is more like the new ones and less pigeon holed is Druid, notably because of the changes made to how their skills work after the LoH expansion.
>>2961553yea they needed to do a better job and give launch classes a 2.0, more mobility and more flexibility in skills but they rely on unique skills to open the trees but they still mostly fall back into the same few packages
>>2959201they are going to do the same shit for d5
I love playing necro in D4, but holy shit why aren't they and paladin allowed to be good?They've been down in the 130s every season since LoH dropped while every other class is clearing 150 in under 5 minutes.
>>2962949Paladin is good thougheverbeit
>>2963125Not good enough for the endgame content and pushing the pit to upgrade your glyphs my famalam
>>2963127says?
>switch 2 skills STILL bugged>not a single word from bl*zzard
I thought those crossover events are a one-off only and limited to a single season?
>>2963337>eventsI meant bundles, but that worked too I guess.
>>2963337>>2963363The promos for WoW came back at some point but not at the same discounted price when they initially came out. Now I am starting to think Berserk will come back too as a rotation.
The state of /d4g/ made me realize two things>D5 really killed us to /d3g/ state of activity>most /d4g/ shitposters are just wowfagsIt was nice while it lasted, guess we'll come back from the dead months before D5 release.
>>2959610How does it run in endgame content? everyone says the game runs flawlessly at solid framerate cap (60 or 40) while running around in the starting area fighting 5 enemies with 2 skills.
>>2964621If Blizzard hadn’t announced D5, I would have bought Diablo IV on Switch 2, bought some plat, defended them on this season’s fumbles, and kept coming back for future seasons. I can’t think of a bigger shot in the foot post-2020.
>>2941564>free until september 21st on steam>I get to level 30 and it tells me "end of free trial"Is steam retarded?
So Necro fucking sucks and only has one remotely viable build anyway historically which isn't even viable but anyway it abandons minions entirely, and minions are boring anyway?And Warlock is like THE summoner and the actually viable edgelord/goth class but is locked behind an expansion for a maintenance mode dead game?
>>2965157Plap plap plap get cranked get cranked get cranked
>>2965157literal Barbarian mogs necro as a minion class
>>2965210the minions aren't make or break but the dark death magic stuff is what I like... but warlock is probably the thing to play and I dabbled but it feels pointless if I don't buy the expansion which feels unjustified nowhow's sorc this season
>>2964731I’m blowing the entire screen up in mid game no fps drops
I think they got me with this nostalgia bait. I'm going to get the classic D2 bundle. What's the difference between 2.8k and 1k one?
Is equipment not showing when you inspect another player (and leaderboards too) some new seasonal feature that wasn't mentioned?
>>2965722just another thing that broke when wow beta started
>>2965728I see...
>>29656662.8k gives you Tyrael's armor set, his wings, mini-Diablo pet, and D3 sader set immediately. The last part is whatever, but I'm a loser who bought it merely for mini-Diablo out of D3 nostalgia. I'm going to hate myself when D5 is out with pets and wings again... Pets I think are inevitable, but wings are ridiculously clowny.
I have serious question (i only played poe1 and 2 from arpgs)Is diablo 4 actually fun.I tried it on free weekend but holy fuck blizzard are jews and i could only kill first boss before getting "BUY A GAME, POORFAG!" pop-up.So my question is simple: Do you think the game is actually fun?Do you think gearing is fun?Do you think picking loot is fun (like you dont get swarmed in useless junk)
>>2966670idk hth
>>2966670>Do you think the game is actually fun?Yes>Do you think gearing is fun?Yes>Do you think picking loot is fun (like you dont get swarmed in useless junk)I don't have a problem with it honestly.everything can be scrapped for parts and then re-used for things like crafting and what not. there are also filters you can apply to not see unwanted items.
>>2966670>Do you think the game is actually fun?You're asking a general thread is practically bait, but given wowfags aren't around I can sincerely say yeah it's fun. D4 has managed to keep me entertained without jumping into any fotm like that pokemon game.>Do you think gearing is fun?Whether following a guide or not, yes, every start of the season I find the progression relatively smooth without the old days where there was a certain spike from say T1 to T6 so everyone just farmed shit in T1. Now the torments have fleshed out to where it's reasonable to actually do T2, T3, etc.>Do you think picking loot is fun (like you dont get swarmed in useless junk)There's a loot filter now so people getting "swarmed" is a problem on the player, not the system.I feel like Blizz shat on my face about D5, but I would be lying if I didn't say D4 did keep me entertained all this time. The D5 announcement leaves a stench but maybe the story arcs they talked about around Aspect of Death will color me surprise where it goes, "Yeah we announced D5, but see for yourself what we do for the next three years in D4." I rather not put faith in anything like that though, I'm just setting myself up for disappointment.
>>2964621d4g has been dead for months now, it has nothing to do with D5. There wasn't even a general posted leading up to Blizzcon
>>2967299Anyone in the thread had already finished S14 prior to period leading up to blizzcon. What would you have discussed in the meantime? Also>blizzcon is diablo now therefore it needs a general>when old and stale season is still onlollmao
>>2967299blame retard devs for making seasons two weeks at best
>>2967312*last two weeks
>>2967312Still longer than D3. And any more is too much desu senpai
>>2967299>d4g deadas opposed to gacha threads on /vg/? Compared to those all generals fall short my dude
>>2967327>any more is too muchautists at poeg would probably disagree. tho those fellas like their slot machines and slave currency mines.
>>2967312>>2967332There still plenty of hardcore D4 players who don't even waste a second browsing 4chan or some other social media and strictly play because they're millennial dads. I have seen people with 4 different alts back-to-back seasons because they just like the game that much. It baffles me but per character you can easily get all the gear you want 30-40hrs per and be happy.
>>2967307My point was that there was no thread for weeks, blizzcon was just a frame of reference.>>2967330as opposed to d4g on /vg/. This game used to have a new thread every few days.
our clan is in grim state of affairs :(i miss people playing
Good.
>>2968534Blizzard abandoned the game, why shouldn't I?>>2968099I do wonder if D5 will be allowed on vg. Kind of strange that d4g wasn't, considering how it moved relatively fast.
>>2969677not him, but if subsequent seasons don't have any content or even QoL like better stash space (unlikely I know), then S15 is the last one for me.As for thread bans, there was some weird counter op against D4 on /vg/ back around launch and months that followed. I dunno if those were reports from poeg or somebody was hellbent on axing the thread, but it was very odd.
>>2969695Tencent (the owners of GGG) is known to use marketing groups that pull that kind of shit, so it could have been them OR it could have been an autist on the level of the GW2 guy.
>>2968534I tried joining and got denied, so blame yourself I guess.
>kill harbinger in T12>it doesnt count for the seasonlovely
>>2968534heya, i'm just getting back from my weekend away. i found a fren of a fren to join the clan tho! >>2970101did you try joining when nobody was online/active to accept the invite? it probably auto-rejects if it sits too long. try again soon, we don't really deny people at all
>>2969766>GW2 guy.Alright you piqued my interest. What was that about? Any tl;dr?
>>2970446A guy spent literally 5 years absolutely spamming every GW2G thread into the ground with multiple bots because he hated femcharr or someshit.
Are the servers crapping themselves again? I can't load into instances faster than 30-40 seconds? Wtf blizzard
No issue for me, I'm in the US though.
Nevermind, it seems to have been something on my end. You can never know with this company anymore though....
>>2970841I'm specifically lagging in helltides.
>offhand sidequest in tristram yields an iconic mythicnice
I swear blizzard has a system in the game where they look at top build guides online and have the game analyze your gear and weight your drops AGAINST your build. I have gotten multiple of every iconic mythic EXCEPT starless. It happens every season.
No that's just the genre you tinfoil hat man.
>scared to reply to mefuck off blizzard shill
Nigger look how dead this chatroom is it's literally you me and someone else. Now I'm out.
>little baby is scared of confrontation so he doesn't reply
>>2970101im sure it was when everyone was inactive, sorry. try again!
selig barb with 50k all res, 70k armor, endurant faith, 150 fury regen/s and 850 resource with 473 life. I am playing in ssfhc and I wondering how much damage I could take? last time I played a similiar selig build it died all of sudden to an auto-attack. this shit feels scetchy and buggy af, very difficult to say how tanky I am since ehp tooltip is obviously fucked because it sits at 20k. is there some kind of conversion calculator or whatever?
>>2973767hmm i don't think there is any way to really tell. i know you can set the dummies in the dojo to attack you, and you could see how much damage you take with that --but i also remember many times when that was bugged and would kill HC players! you'll just have to YOLO that sketchy build. good luck...
If i buy Diablo® IV base game (on sale right now) will i have access to everything i need except DLC classes?Or do i need Diablo® IV: Lord of Hatred™ for item progression?
>>2974366off the top of my head, the expansions give: runes (for crafting and equipping) mercenaries (with a currency for extra gear and mats) new map areas campaign story (obviously) spiritborn, warlock, paladin classes also extra skill tree skills if i'm not mistaken? horadric cube for crafting good stuff undercity area for extra mats and gear warplans endgame stuff idk, the base game has gotta really be slow and boring without all of that, plus i'm sure i'm forgetting other stuff too. but the game is kind of in a weird place, because d5 is coming out in 2.5 yrs, so like... you're only going to get 2.5 yrs playtime out of dumping a bunch of money on expansions or anything into d4 at this point... idk what to tell you, bro
>>2974456>but the game is kind of in a weird place, because d5 is coming out in 2.5 yrs, so like... you're only going to get 2.5 yrs playtime out of dumping a bunch of money on expansions or anything into d4 at this point... idk what to tell you, broDont worry, you told me everything i need to know with that giant list. Thnx.
Servers are shitting themselves so hard right now, rubberbanding and desync in all open areas and some instanced. Small family company. Hated the always online aspect since the start.>>2974366Game is borderline unplayable without the 2 expansions, there are too many systems tied to them. You get the 1st one for "free" if you buy the 2nd one since they retroactively removed it from being purchasable.
I spent all this time trying to get the items necessary for this build https://maxroll.gg/d4/build-guides/fist-of-the-heavens-paladin-guide and the playstyle feels terrible.I should just go Thorns but now I don't feel like trying to get the items for that build it'd be such a pain.
>>2969695It was really strange, I can't think of another example of a game with that level of active players and thread participants not being allowed to maintain a general. I was actually banned a number of times for making them before we moved here. >>2969766But why did the mod go along with it? It had to be higher up than a janny.
>>2941564i really wanna get this for switch 2 but $70 is alot =/
>>2976181i do too but i preordered zelda and bought the new fire emblem it has to wait. plus the gay retarded holidays are coming and i have to buy gifts
>do the infernal hordes slog trying ot get ebekawa hat>3 (three) helms drop from bartuk>all three are loyalty's mantlesgod DAMN it kek
is it possible to reroll all affixes on a unique or do I have to 3:1 them?
>>2976680i don't think so. i think each unique rolls with two fixed affixes and then two random ones
>>2976686so 3:1 and hoping for a new drop is all I can do?
helltides arent dropping cinders, amazing, its something new every day
>>2977912i bet you got the helltide glitch: map shows that area red like it's helltide, but it doesn't drop cinders or do the helltide things. if you look at the map again, you'll find the real helltide with the red sword (or whatever) icon in the middle of it. the fake/glitched helltide doesn't have that.but yeah it's stupid.
>>2976181i could easily get it on my switch 2, but i don't want to dump another cent into this game. the countdown is already ticking for maintenance mode. only way i'd be tempted to get the amazon class is if they don't give her a tremendous breast reduction and make her face look manly, but what are the odds nu-blizz does that
>>2978089idk the spiritborn is pretty sexo
>>2978089I can assure you the amazon will be flat chested, a cups at best.
not sure if the servers are just completely dogshit laggy or if it's my own internetwhen i played in the past i found out having like 100gb free on the hard drive seemed to make a difference cause it needed a lot of space for a pagefile or something but this feels different than then, like my character just slowly moves where i click
awww yeaaa, got the last splinter i needed from a repeatable cache and crafted wirt's lucky coinsalso got the last ancestral mythic unique i needed from a boss drop. it's been a lucky day! clan has been very active the past couple of days. if anybody wants a quick powerlevel or something, it's a good time for it (but not rn, cause i'm going to sleep)
>>2979864 based!
yeah I think I am done. almost all items are purple or multi ga and my paragon board is close to finished. wish the game had more endgame things to do or grind for. I tried prolonging the journey by playing ssfhc but that didnt really help since the regular game is also semi-ssf kekw
Cool i played 4 hours of the season, finished the quest, and now im locked out of all content cause i didnt buy the dlc. Fuck blizzard and fuck this season checkbox shit
>>2980302>season checkbox shitSeasonal journey? That's been their MO for the last decade at least my friend. It's a shitty practice to get you to buy the DLCs but that's how those greedy cunts operate. You either roll with it or you don't.
Just achieved immortality with my barb and I can finally start the season
>>2980112i'm only farming t6 :) have at least a good week or 2 left to play
>>2980302you set yourself up for failure
>>2978023No cause I tried that and none of them worked. It was probably something with them pushing the event live cause it was resolved after that.
>>2976623isnt it faster to do belial with bartuc as a target for all the hordes specific unique drops?
How are people getting such insane xp gains in the triple whisper event? I'm getting good xp but not as much as I'm seeing some people get.
>>2981664does it even matter? you dont even have any meaningful nodes to pick after paragon 250. the last 50 levels are basically just +5 main stats.
>>2982069I've never hit 300 before and wanted to grind it out during the event. So yes it matters assholekun.
>>2982107xp is added to your eternal realm character once the season is over. I only play up to 250~ and my non-season character is somewhere in the 290 range. no reason to hit 300 on a single character.
what is the point of this game? there are so many enemies and they all move so fast so you just end up holding a clear all aoe button the whole time instead of playing the game. potions are unlimited and regenerate. what the fuck is the point of this game? read a book or something.
>>2982363is this your first time with an arpg anon? that's their mo nowadays.
Why does this stupid series keep trying to do endgame shit instead of D2 runs.
I dont have the dlc. Where in the fuck am i supposed to get loot? The tower and pit drops nothing but dog shit
God I love zeal pally
How is it legal for blizzard to move skills from the base game to the dlc where it’s now paywalled. Where is the class action lawsuit. Rogue is legit useless now
>>2984802why do you use a 20% all damage gem together with a 24% phy skull? all damage and phy are all added into the same bucket.
This game is too hard. Im done. Why is everything moving at mach 5 speed
Corpse Explosion and The Mortacrux are MUCH better than the build makers are pretending.I just completed a 140 pit with those + minions.
>>2983962biggest question imo
>>2983962Because that only appeals to the most autistic.
They are smoking some heavy stuff. Not to mention that black hole-head paladin trasmog set.
>>2985175you are unironically not supposed to look at the screen. have the transparent map layout open and stare at it. you basically treat the game like a top down 2d game, imagine playing doom 2 with the map open. you are supposed to have enough ehp to be able to tank every on death explosion.
>>2985901>transparent map layoutnta but the map is done horribly, the outlines should've been dotted instead of lines, even at lowest opacity I can't see shit and i'd rather have minimap in the corner for better visibility (yeah you still need it lest you want to be fucked over by some one shot death effect).
Whoever came up with those dropping sword should be hanged by the balls or tits. Fucking shit.
>>2968534what's the clan tag?
Got a gift worth 30 dollars on Steam but the only thing I could think of spending it on that you could actually buy with 30 dollars of Steam currency is the Lord of Hatred shit, even though it's a dead game. But I own Diablo 4 on fucking Battle.net and you can't transfer it or whatever even though you have to fucking log in through Battle.net anyway. I wanted to fucking buy your stupid fucking expansion for your dead abandoned game in spite of all of that but couldn't so now I'm just sitting on it.So fucking stupid. So fucking Jewish.
>>2986289if i buy a game on ps5 i can't play it or transfer an expansion to xbox lol. they are different stores. pretty dumb complaint
>>2986187search for FREN i'll be back on after i cook dinner and add you
>>2985901I just want to play diablo... but a new one...i also hate how the map is birds eye view... it's awful and u cant see shit
>>2986557yeah you would own a PS5 you stupid fucking niggercattle corporate cocksucker
>>2986665uh oh meltie
>using ps5 for anything other than a very expensive paperweight in the year of Our Lord 2026ngmi
couldnt play at start of seasonhow is it nowwho are the top 3 classes
how to get lord of hatred for Free
>>2987090maybe pic gives you some idea i went slutborn and then made a rogue. rogue is more fun for me. seen people do lots of big dam with warlock and barb whirlwind this season. grouped up with a paladin, and he was kinda seriously struggling, but maybe that's just a him thing. it's a good time to jump into the season, i think. devs just airmailed everybody an apology spark too kek
>>2982107you should grind it all out in 1 season, it's kinda fun! it's easier now than it used to be. i think there are a lot of gems that give exp, and the seasonal NMD with forgotten wisdom affix are usually pretty short to do. but be aware: 284 is halfway to 300 :^)
>>2987619>devs just airmailed everybody an apology spark too kekbased
>>2987629i did it the first season it released and it was a fucking slog. i remember (probably) you doing it for hc later on and i can't imagine doing that
What happened to players loadouts? I only see the character of another player but every single slot is empty. Am I going insane?
>>2986647if you want diablo... but new there will only be onb alternative and its path of exile. I understand og diablo players HATE poe for whatever reason but its objectively the better diablo. it started where d2 ended and incrementally improved the genre in the past 15 years and I say that as someone who probably has over 10k+ hours in d2 alone and still plays stuff like project diablo 2.
>>2986647>>2985901SORRY FELLAS YOU WANTED TO LOOK AT THE SCREEN AND PLAY WITH STRATEGY TOO BAD HAVE PINBALL MACHINE SKINNER BOX GAME AGAIN. SEE YOU IN TWO YEARS FOR MORE PINBALL ZOOMZOOM ACTION.
>>2988392i played poe1 and it's the exact same shit as this.. havent played poe2 cause i didnt like what poe1 was and i'm not gonnna be paying for it
>>2988229no it's a bug from 5 days ago small indie company please understand
The next diablo needs to be 32K sprites. Fuck this 3D shit.
>>2989754Oh great. Fantastic work blizz. Billion dollar company my ass....
>>2987619>death trap and FoK were rogue meta for D4's entire lifespan
>>2990062good. fuck rogue. and fuck poe.
i forgotwhats the leveling for new season characters? spam anything that gives tree of whisper things?i juist started, lvl 20 soemthinga nd following the cain quest
>>2987637oh yeah it was such a slog. pits was the only way to do it. hours and hours of pits. well i did it on sc, and then i realized there was an achievement for doing it on hc, so i did that too. two separate seasons, two chars to paragon 300. i'm over achievement hunting at this point tho. just don't see the point. play the game for whatever enjoyment the season offers, and that's that. wait for d5 i guess.
>>2987619I ended up going with a necroHaven’t played one since d2, seems fitting to do it in the season they brought back Diablo and baalIs 1-70 just spamming tree whisper?
>>2988392>poe>d2>project d2you're not "a diablo player" --you're autistic
>>2990633>>2990573probably while the tree event is going on, whisper caches will be best for quick exp. doing the main seasonal questline will get you to lvl 30 fwiw
>>2990660But we need anon like him or else these threads are really bland and stale.
Is there a way to turn off turbo mode?
>Use Whimsyshire pot>d/c>lose portalWell.
This was pure nostalgia bait and I still liked it.Been quarter of a century since I seen some of the things in the quest.
>>2991815For the last 15 seasons, it is single handedly the most effort put into D4. Maybe they got forced to recreate all the demons from D1 to D2 but they already showed that on LoH release. It's low effort to pessimistic or negative people redoing quests like Tal Rasha's Tomb and revisiting Maggot's Lair seeing that big fat ass maggot again, but they could have easily not done all that to begin with. It clearly showed if Blizz/MS wanted, they could remaster D1 with multiplayer for shits and giggles.D4 came a long way from S1 days.
>>2991843>>2990667>>2990633>>2990573I've never played at the start of a season before, only ever with like 3 days left full procrastination FOMO mode, and if there was a story to the last season I didn't do it, just spammed helltide events to rush the OW cosmetics (I hit level 70+25~ or whatever you'd call it and got everything in 20 hours).I uninstalled to save space, but should I actually reinstall to play during the start of the season? Is the game super active at the start? I only rarely ran into other players at the end of the last one. Might be fun, I guess.When does it die down and is no longer considered the "start" of a season? Should I reinstall?I don't have Lord of Hatred by the way.
>>2991794what's the point anyway just seemed like a waste of time
>>2994065You get the title Fancy Pants and I love Ween.
>>2994070oh cool. i have some weenbros irl they're silly
>>2993886I imagine your experience will differ vastly than LoH owners. All I'd say is if you have some free time and willing to re-install, play a good 10 hours and you get 80% of the content out of your way. The other 20% is with all the secrets they put into the dungeons and world events -- even fishing which is an LoH-only feature. I think D4 fans are the most jaded players out there because we endure the D4 bad train and everything that comes with that. My post means little, but this is the only season I would recommend to anyone who had some level of nostalgia to D1 to D3.
>>2994674"blah blah blah the long answer is no unless you wanna be a paypig for this faggot company who just spit in your face with their HIV positive saliva when they announced D4 end of service"
this game is fucking pathetic. i have 32 gigs of ram and my dungeons and tower runs always run out of memory and crash the game. the fuck is this game using 30 gigs of ram for.
>>2994820so apparently it's been a memory leak since day 1 of the game since over 3 years ago and they still havent fixed it. billion dollar company.
>>2994859who the fuck are you talking topajeet?
This is just top down WoW, not diablo. It's more WC3 than diablo
The only way to play diablo now is playing dark souls
>>2994908/b/ is a couple blocks down the board mr. looney.
I actually dont feel super motivated to grind now that I've seen Baal and DiabloMaybe I'll do Whymsyshire and that's it
>>2994908saar I hope you're fucking seething, saar, better redeem the router reset, saar (lmao fucking faggot)
>>2994804you can't get aids from saliva
>>2993886i think the season is probably winded down for the people who rush the start to just unlock seasonal titles and be done. season is still going for people who are grinding out the battlepass, trying other chars, playing around with the secret things, collecting cow cosmetics, etc. i've taken this season pretty slowly in comparison to my usual, and there are still things to do. also it helps that i have tons of people wanting to do things all the time in the game. "plvl me", "kill this boss for me heeelp", "let's run war plans for funsies", etc.
>>2995779if a fag has aids and has some sort of bleeding going on in his mouth, the aids blood could absolutely be mixed in with the saliva. if that same fag spits in someone's face, and it lands in their eye, nose, mouth, i.e. mucus membranes, then yeah it could be transmitted. i thought that gaylord adam whatever-his-name-was left d4 tho, so we're probably all safe from the aids.
>>2995794i liked /ourfag/ adam but he left for some other company and didn't even last a year there before quitting oh no no no
I wanted to be hopeful about Diablo in general but if those nimrods from D4 team are working on D5 with Shelly leading the way then I shudder to think what they will come up with. And that's despite somewhat good concept they showed at blizzcon. I'm not touching it with a ten feet pole before people get their hands on actual gameplay.Wilson had some interesting thoughts about the whole debacle tho:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fenjcmb_fks
Think they'll ever bother to fix the Blazing Scream bug and buff the droprate on uber-splinters from the big 3?
>>2996620that was an interesting vid/perspective, thanks for posting it. i am also very reticent about d5. i just don't want to play another diablo game that requires having multiple webpages open to keep pace with the game >rune crafting recipes>endgame build>...for the two chars i made this season..>secret cow stuff>secret fishing stuff >which boss drops what uniques >what does the new seasonal thing do, because the game doesn't explain >what new system got overhauled this season, and now everything is different but more importantly, i have zero desire to play through another garbage campaign story like d4. i do not want to get neyrelled ever again and pay for the privilege. this season of nostalgia has reminded me why i ever played original diablo and then diablo 2 in the first place, waaaaay back in the day: the story. the worldbuilding with the memorable characters. that eerie tristram town music. the timeless elements that made it all so epic. i have low confidence the nu blizz d5 team (isn't one of the writers a confirmed womens studies literature or something stupid like that??) can pull together as captivating a story. they don't understand classic writing, all they know is contemporary "let's overturn everything true and focus on emotional stories, but only the safe kind that is politically correct" type of writing. afaik the two joes don't have anything to do with any of that aspect --piepiora and shelley do systems and design. they are kind of forced to go wherever blizz decides the story goes. anyway, i don't want to be a doomer, and i'm usually an eternal optimist, but i'm agreeing with you that it's one of those "believe it when you see it" situations
>>2997548and also to continue my rant... now that blizzard -> microsoft, i'm sure d5 will be all about how much extra extra money they can make off of it. i wouldn't be surprised if it ends up having a subscription/month payment structure as well --something beyond even the seasonal battlepass in shekel-maxing. because microsoft especially loves making its shareholders happy (see: dodge v. ford)
>>2997823not just the subscription model (which they love). I fear it will be full of p2w elements. I understand p2convience in games like poe which need to finance themselves but we WILL be forced to buy tabs and whatnot on top of a subscription.
>>2997921yeah and all of that on top of purchasing the game for somewhere around $100 as well. no way they'll sell it for less than that initially, i bet.
Oooof, just saw the fucking Tyrael armor in the battle pass.I could spend $5 and that will give me enough Plat to buy the 1k plat base version.....but that means grinding the fuck out of this game for the next 2 months to have enough fav tokens to buy out the shop.....shit
you cant theorycraft in this game. you must use the ultimate. you must build to buff the ultimate.
>>2998164Haaaa faggot, I had 99 sitting around from last season.Although I didn't get any wings with the 1k version. Absolute scam.
>>2997548>Deckard Cain ressurects as a woman>Buy health pot with micro transaction >Subscribe and receive free mana pot>Diablo is revealed to be trans>Mephisto is gay>Baal is questioning >One fat sassy woman character, blacksmith probably >Quest to bring butcher ingredients to make gay Mephisto a cake>Fresh TREAT!
this game is amazing but give me a classic mode along with the mogpoe mode
>>2998630>the caravan is actually a gay pride parademakes so much sense now
why does this game play way better on console lmfao. how do i get chests lit up on pc? i miss all of them
>>2998595i didnt play last seasonput in like a hundred hours at the start of loh but it didnt give me as many favor tokens as i thought so i just bought the random freebies
are bosses supposed to take 30 minutes on torment x while i get one shotted if i get hit
>>2999789depends? i am taking it slow this season so not t10 yet but when i leveled a brobarb two seasons ago, torment x bosses were getting melted and its only t12 that put up any resistance
>>2999820i wonder if it's cause i dont have any of the dlcs. i upgraded everything i can. rogue melee poison trap proc on poison knife
>>2999831Ah, I wouldnt know then.I only did end game post LoH, I'm not even sure what features are locked behind DLCs to be honest.
>>2999831without the dlcs....>missing out on runewords (lots of free defensive stuff here, so you don't have to waste a slot on your skill bar, etc --like free dark shrouds for rogue)>missing out on variant upgrades in the skill tree >missing horadric cube making all gear very very good you're basically knee-capped. i don't think there is really a way to further your build without the expansions, other than tempering and masterworking. i think i heard that even some legendary aspects are gated behind the expansions as well, but i don't really know. you should give us updates on success with getting into T12 though, i'm very curious
>>2999831oh! you can trade with people to get the runes to socket into your gear though. so yeah i'd start with that.
Any ebin trick to farming the new Seasonal Uniques?Didnt even realize they existed until I got the Cat and Messerschmidt's Reaver
>>2999978Oh theyre called Legacy Uniques* my bad
The good thing with Diablo5 making Diablo4 irrelevant (soon) is I will be able to get the old Season rewards if they decide to do a Diablo3 and rerun the old seasons.
I give up. I'm never getting this Splinter of Terror.Over 300 baal runs and over 50 Diablo runs, and nothing.No hellfire torch for me...
>>3000075Max your rep for your current splinter and then blast helltides to farm rep for the recurring cache reward, those have a decent chance at giving a splinter, far better than any other method.
>>2999978Baal runs
>>3000141Why helltides over Infernal Hordes for blasting seasonal caches?
What the fuck?Why do I just randomly take a billion damage and fall over with no warning?The kill feed just says "slain" too, not what killed me...
>>3001167The monsters the spawn from the tears give a lot of rep, and you can often stack two or three at a time. Other players being around at the same time keep the rifts open longer and you close tears faster spawning more monsters. Also you will occasionally encounter echoes of Meph/Diablo/Baal with very high chances to drop a splinter.
>>3001167>>3001187Also it isn't as brain-numbingly boring as hordes
>>3000075all the people i know who did this dungeon-spam method can't get the terror splinter to drop. as soon as they switch over to seasonal bulletin board/table maxxing, they get it within a couple hours.
how is this shit 170 gigs
>>3001505if you want to test the PTR, you have to install a whole extra 170 gigs too XD
>>3001167Hordes is the most fucking boring goddamn thing in D4.
>>2999789Not really no. If it's like that drop back to torment 8.
Any other Paladins?
>>3001505it's not. the 8k textures are optional and are 100 gigs.
Should i play necromancer yet again this season?
So blizzard proves they can make diablo looking levels by remaking diablo 1 and 2 levels and they look perfect and amazing (inky dark shadows, black everywhere but you can still see everything, super bright candles and lighting contrasted lighting up the darkness) but they still decided to make all of D4 look like world of warcraft with an ig filter? WTF? at least I am now super excited for D5.
man i really want those tyrael wings but i'm not gonna pay all that
>the streamers have found my corpse explosion buildOh no no no no no...
>>3001812and i think that's exactly how they're planning to rope customers into buying D5 --the visuals and graphics. i'm not falling for it!!
>>3001812Not sure if Chaos Sanctury felt the sameBut Durance was cool. Also my dumb ass was completely not expecting Durance even though its a Meph focused expansion so seeing it, Flayer Jungle and Kurast completely unexpectedly was neat.
>>3003401I don't think Chaos Sanctuary is in D4. Diablo is the D1 version.
>>3003401really, that was the best one to me. it was perfect
Anni is in, next world boss @ 7pm EST
>>3006878oohhh thanks for the tip, german beavis! (who, i might comment, is looking a little less beavis-ey with his facial hair....)
This game is literally just WoW
what is the point of a poison build when a crit phys build does more damage per hit even when including all the dot poison does per hit. The crit build does more damage in one second than the poison does in 6 seconds. Shouldnt the payoff be poison does less instant damage but over time it should do substantially more? Theres no reason to proc poison
>>3007358that's what you'd think, but multipliers are multipliers, and also there's a seasonal thing that reduces crit (unless you get it guaranteed from a skill or whatever) but buffs something else. but do what you want! it's a free sanctuary
my barbman has 20000% crit damage multi and 100% cc. this game has really retarded numbers. 20k. I understand how buckets work but still 20000%
>>3006878i'll check it outbut i hope it doenst have some crazy torment requirement, im only in like t5 on my necro
I am sad Diablo 5 is moving away from open world. Fat smelly nerds got what they wanted I suppose...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u43ol8RFKm0Nice game Good gameTake a guess why i searched these fuckin pants
>>3001505this game has optional textures that are like 70 gigs. It's only like 80-90 without them. Path of Exile 2 is ACTUALLY 160 gigs, non-negotiable.
This doesn't really apply to majority of players I know. But it's wild they're going to let those snapshots double charms stay on the leaderboards for the rest of the season. The approach of this company is baffling.
I dropped 3 torches with the wrong set and called it a season
what is the leveling build for rogue?i threw some dance of knife shit together and its a pain just to level compared in Normal, compared to how low iq my summoner necro steamrolled its way from lvl 1 to t5 with just my meme build
This game is garbage. Diablo V can't come soon enough.
>>3014198just farm some whisper caches on your main and open them on the rogue, then you can skip the leveling "journey"
>>3012563i think it's nice to play a diablo game that isn't open world, but that only means they're going to make their shekels off d5 some way other than the plethora of cosmetic mtx that d4 has. nu-blizz + microsoft = recipe for consooomer slop. simple as.
>>3012563open world game design doesnt work in top down games let alone games where you farm a single dungeon 1000s of times. open world is something for 3rd or 1st person games.
>diablo is still the best boss in the series 30 years latermy sides
What retard is responsible for the gameplay of this shite
dude constant one hit kills lmao, make sure your friends buy copies of the game so you can keep reviving each other!
Is Diablo2 remastered worth it? are there people on the servers?
>>2999957nope, it's just a brick wall. uninstalled the game.
>>3016094there's just so much power with all of the things they added in the expansions. even the seasonal journey has objectives to complete that require you to have access to the expansion stuff. welp. hope you had a little fun with the anniversary content anyway...
>>3016336yeah it was good but it just made me wan to play the old diablos instead. i hope they make diablo v a good more focused diablo.
>>3014929Homosexual take
>>2999831So buy thr expansions fucking thirdie
>>3017780no, the game isn't good enough for that
my homebrew summoner is struggling in t7....
>>3018671you WILL watch the streamersyou WILL put on the S-tier build you WILL then be able to do t12
why would anyone play this over d2r
not being autistic: that's why
its not working bruhsthis blazing scream warlock thing aint working for me, i thought its suppose to be super op!?last season when i made my barb, it was able to rape its way to torment x in like a day after i gave it my leftover paladin geari gave my new warlock an ancestral 25 mw'ed weapon, rerolled intellect to willpower and shes struggling in pit 40 (t6 unlock)yes i know it seems it really wants some uniques but i figured a couple of makeshift bandages to help with resources would be enough for now but nope....
>>3019024rather be autistic than gay
>>3018927I tried both and refunded D2R. It sucks dick compared to D4.
>>3019895wrong. pd2/poe1/d2r are all better than d4. there is a reason they basically cancelled d4 after just 3 years of service. you cant argue with this fact.
>>3019895D4 is garbage. that's why D5 is coming after they said D4 would be a forever game
fought uber mephisto for 30 min in t10 just to get 2 tapped at 20%hp.i need more DAMAGE
>>3018846well i did change to a blood wave build and got to t10then meph one shotted me
>>2999957>>2999831>>2999957>>3016094>>3016336thank you for convincing me to not reinstall this fucking dogshitwish I could do a chargeback on this fucking kike company's trash bait game
>>3023908you probably can. they changed the product from what it was when you bought it.
>>3020600>>3022004D4 has more players than all that other gay shit put together
