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Nothing much going on right now.

>Resources
ratemyserver.net
divine-pride.net
irowiki.org/classic/ (pre-re)
irowiki.org/wiki/ (renewal)
rocalc.com

Previously: >>2862576
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Ragnadev got caught as a victim
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>>2946517
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>>2946519
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waiting for ro3!
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https://psoreborn.com/
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>>2946811
>IP grabber
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Oh well, I guess I'll be going for Maplestory Classic if niggerdev won't release shit
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>>2946811
Pretty neat but Ephinea already solves all my PSO needs
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>>2946811
Not that one. Neptune plays there.
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>>2946811
vibe-coded trash
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>>2948994
What if it was used to finish doddlero? I hate generative AI btw
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>>2949009
AI is a tool and not the go-to solution. If you dare to call yourself a developer, you need to know the code to proofread the code to make sure that shit works like it's supposed to before you push that shit live.

The problem is that the above statement is the exception and not the rule, and that's where it all goes horribly wrong and the person "making" this trash should be hit by a pool full of sledgehammers
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>>2949437
I agree
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utsuho do you still have terminal autism
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chelle are you still a tranny
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yi sang
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You guys are so fucking gay.
What a pointless thread.
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>>2950343
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>>2949009
>>2949437
>non devs talking about the perfect world development process
developers have been lgtm-ing without reading the code way before AI. This sentiment is as brain dead as people getting into OSS just for the principle of it but never actually read the source.

AI doesn't have a monopoly on stupid review processes (or lack thereof). AI just made it faster and more accessible.
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>>2950792
perfect world sucked ass though
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>>2946517
nigger no one needs another can-do-everything class that's based around cooldowns and doesn't feel like pre-re at all, fuck the fuck off third world shitter
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save us bullies
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>>2950792
I dont know if you noticed all the half assed decompile games coming out recently but even /v/ are shitting on it daily
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>>2950852
>another
whats the other one?
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I think what I need is a freshly made server
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>>2951542
But KuRO is gone
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>>2951542
https://ro.ultimweb.cz/en/
Released today, just now.
Have fun.
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>>2951580
>multiclient allowed
>literally only 1 dude online
its dead
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>>2951580
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>>2951602
Worst of all
>can't say nigger in global chat
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>>2951597
It released just now, what the fuck did you expect?
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>>2951608
I expect to be allowed to say nigger in chat
turns out you're not even allowed that
shit server
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>>2951607
Anon, that's literally any server not ragna/v/
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>>2951611
kuRO lets you shout nigger in global chat
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>>2951613
>kuRO
I miss kuRO, it was a good server while it lasted.
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>>2951963
Yea, all of the 2 weeks it lasted.
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>>2951580
>8/8/3
>Fucking 3x drop
No fucking way I'm not wasting my time
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Certain standards have evolved over time in the pserver scene. Nowadays it's intolerable to have mutliclienting and drop rates lower than exp.
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>standards are when you play alone with multiple clients open
we should lower our standards in that case
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ESL moment
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Embarrassing
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>no playing the game
>no quoting eachother
clique btfo
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>>2952099
It lasted for 2 and a half months you nigger
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>>2946811
Why the would I want
>game but now in browser
Absolutely retarded.

I came here to post about Ragnarok Universe. It too is a browser game. Like why. What the fuck is wrong with current year people. Sad thing is it looks to be doing a lot right compared to the other Ragnarok remakes but I haven't looked into it that much. I just heard that it isn't autoplay garbage like the others. What's /rog/s thoughts on it?
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>>2951580
>0 player count
Yeah I'm not wasting my time on that shit
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>>2952807
ROBrowser was pretty good though
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>>2952824
I just don't see the point of putting a real game into a browser. I don't want to overload my browser with a game or have it download a bunch of stuff in some cache somewhere where it's gonna be a pain to delete if I ever want to do so. I get that it's more accessible but if you're such a third world nigger that you can't install games then you shouldn't be playing them.
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>>2952799
nah it didn't, I was there since week 1
by week 2 the inner clique (which was most of the players) had already left for the next ccro season, and few other had joined and started shilling uaro
you dont have to pretend kuro was a real server
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>umm everyone went to ccro
yup more clique history revisionism
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will bullies be playing the new wow server and if so if someone joined bullies for wow would they also be added to bullies in ragnav 4? or is the ragnarok group seperate
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>>2952894
the fewer steps required to play, the more likely you are to get people playing
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>>2952809
It released yesterday, anon
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>>2953893
It had 1 player online yesterday
now its 0
so that's actually negative 1 player count now
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>>2952807
>>2952824
Ease of use for "devs" as well, since they can vibe code the whole thing easier
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Druid is literally ninja but with more benefit on going physical, there's not much else to do on build
What the fuck is the point
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>>2955225
the point is furries
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>>2955225
dev ego
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Ro noob here, who wants be my taekwon buddy and kick shit together in uaro till wowforever/ccro or whatever that is ahead but today is not that day. today we kick
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>>2955225
The same could be said of all expanded classes. I believe Dev would be able to make Druid interesting in v4 by making some changes.
Also, I fail to understand why anyone would be against adding more variety to a supposedly solved game.
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>>2955225
>more benefit on going physical
phys druid in kRO blew ass at least on release, what's he changing that is making physical so valued?
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>>2955752
I don't like druid because the sprite is ugly and the skills are lame. I don't want to look at it ever.
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>>2955658
i hope you don't intend to be a taekwon ranker, because on an established server that's nearly impossible
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>>2955963
Got Perma'd
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>>2956052
>hmm why did anon get per-
>only now saw the name
fucking wheeze
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>>2956052
>>2956084
Y'all got too used to ragna/v/'s freedoms.
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Lesson: Jate Hews
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Make a class focused on gambling and LUK, with that I'm sold
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>>2958096
Gambler of the highway
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>>2958096
You could technically stitch together a gambler with the skills around like Flip The Coin, Abracadabra, Mammonite etc.
A class with a different stat spread mostly focused on LUK does sound cool.
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I love this periodic clique cleansing period. /rog/ will be healed by next year.
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>>2958713
I am just disappointed that the whole crafter > damage archetype never got enough support. They were already implementing items that benefit crafters like those odd axes, but then probably renewal hit and completely shat on the old school stat/gear scaling.
Then again, it would never be a thing on pservers, as everyone would just make a more efficient farmer or use a free/paid respec option.
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>>2959987
the single thing that has kept blacksmiths down is their weapons not having card slots
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>>2959350
As long as /rog/ even vaguely plays servers together, the clique will never die
Only way to fully kill the clique is to kill the thread permanently
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>>2961507
/rog/ attracts randoms, randoms create good threads, good threads create cliques, and cliques kill /rog/, but dead threads drive away cliques, and cliques fucking off allows /rog/ to attract randoms again.
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>>2961597
>/rog/ attracts randoms
/vg/ barely brings in new blood and /vm/ is literally the end decay stage
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>>2952989
And why do you want bar to be even lower I wonder? Gatekeeping was never bad.
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>>2963069
if the bar is lower, it is easier to potentially get people to donate for your bullshit cash shop
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bullies... where are you....
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>>2964013
Killed
By Yisang
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Can niggerdev or whoever the fuck hurry up on making the new server
I tried inviting you faggots to a fresh, new server to play but you kept bitching about every little thing, at least with ragna/v/ you'll just shut up and play
Already existing servers are flooded with bots and the economy is absolute dogshit
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>>2965363
be kind
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>>2965449
Suck my nuts
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>>2965363
>I tried inviting you faggots to a fresh, new server to play but you kept bitching about every little thing,
Inviting us to a place we can't say nigger or hate on jews? yeah no
fuck you too you disgusting faggot
I hope you and your family suffers in real life
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>>2965508
You're a fucking retard, what part of public server having a default of not letting you say anything you didn't get?
Holy shit, letting third worlders on the internet was such a mistake because I have to put up with subhuman scum like you
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>>2965555
And we'll still never join you in anything
so rot alone in hell
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>>2965566
I'm not joining your shithole country, thank you for the offer
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I dont want ragna/v/4 because niggerdev was obviously close friends with bill and gpu.
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You should have listened to the clique
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I feel like most of the anons in these threads don't actually want to play RO; they just want to bitch and moan about unrelated stuff.
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>>2967186
>closest friends to the best and oldest /rog/ players
is that supposed to be a bad thing?
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>>2967305
literally not a single good server to play
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>>2967313
obviously
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>>2967186
Being friends with Bill & GPU isn't a problem. But Niggerdev is obviously the discordclique's balance bitch which is a huge problem and part of why v3 died.
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>>2967320
We get it, you want to say nigger 24/7
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>>2967411
There wasn't a discord during v3
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>>2967313
>Best players
Easy when niggerdev lets you multiclient while banning anyone else doing so.
>Oldest
No shit, they are literally real life acquaintances.
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>>2967736
Hahaha
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>>2967736
lol
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v/3 had so many people who were new or didn't play the game in ages, mainly cause of the 4chan banner which the bill crew financed iirc (?). first couple of months were mmo magic. rip
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>>2967667
its ok to wish to go off grid and not being parented by higher ups but by same rank community members instead (pre-pvp and pre-ban lull became unwanted person in any party as server progressed)
if you want to be parented you could always play retail WoW or something
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We somehow got away with saying nigger 3 times on ccro without a ban. In global chat too. Any other server would have instantly permabanned us.
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>>2968678
ccro dev also ignores glaring problems with costume/job meta and even caters shit eaters with pve/pvpve oriented seasons that doesn't require player interaction and if you dare to make everyone fight on even ground you're at risk of being banned for griefing (contesting in 2005 terms)
god forbid securing kills with pneuma as shit-tier setup like bolt priest (lmao) because israeli drooling brownoid forma de Ariel cant press DS anymore and gonna whine about it in global
dont waste your time on this shit server again
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>>2969267
I don't know if ccro dev fucked your girlfriend or what, but are you actually expecting anyone to perfectly balance RO in any shape way or form?
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>>2968678
oh my how exciting, the pinnacle of gameplay and freedom, nigger nigger nigger nigger
At some point you just gotta grow up, Peter Pan.
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>>2969267
quote attributed to silk the brown
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>>2969640
im expecting dev to address meta existence and shift it to avoid job choices becoming stale (they are already) instead of throwing same sg/crusader beta into mobs until 443 for four seasons at this point
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>>2968464
Pretty sure the ads were financed by bulliekeks
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>>2968464
>>2969844
The ads were financed by Yi Sang
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Which job should I start out as in ragna/v/ when it drops
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>>2969975
Whatever niggerdev gives the most supersaiyan buffs + overpowered keknewal gear
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>>2970011
Understandable, I will NOT be playing priest then.
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>>2970034
If /v/4 successfully launch I don't even know what I'm gonna play either if I jump back in. I care more about having a good time with the peeps than the job autism selection anyway
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Oh yeah everyone is gonna try druid realistically so I expect a "Awoo" guild from /rog/ kek
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>>2967186
ragnadev is bill moran
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>>2968464
who made the ads
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If v4 happens cut the exp and card rates in half then double the equipment drop rates.
Don't let speedrunners win.
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Yi Sang will win regardless
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>>2971340
I did
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>>2972450
equipment should just be 100%
but upgrade mats should be as hard to get as cards
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>uaRO down
It's over...
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>giving even a second chance to retarded admins/GMs
lol
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just play osrs
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Just play WoW Classic Plus.
And join Olympus.
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Couldn't make it to 443, everyone was long gone before I even hit 400 and theres no shot at me getting the rest of bio3 and valk.
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>>2973750
just play with storage or something, dumbass. anton will carry anyone.
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>>2973765
I don't use discord.
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>>2973766
ok so ask to talk to anton from literally anyone in the storage guild
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>>2973750
if you figure out solo dps (costumeless ninja goes hard past 400) i could do ice wall job for bio3, Sniper Priest SinX are killable with wizard and ninja, Wizard would need fattier tank and LK/WS are too scary without devo slave
t. easily baitable retard
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>>2974358
LK Sinx and Sniper are the only bio3s left that aren't normals, that and valk.
I still haven't quite gotten my ninja up to speed, idk how you hit 190 aspd on it. Currently at 188 with bison+seal+5% aspd mid and thief rune set.
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>>2974358
Actually that said my wizard is my best geared one atm so you're likely to have a better dps than I do.
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im patiently waiting for ragna v 4
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>>2974766
same ccro doesnt do it for me with the costumes and mini/mvp cards, feels like work more than fun. will cold turkey until then whenever it might be
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>>2973362
>Without p2w weapons
which means p2w everything else?
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>>2973362
>8/8/3
fucking retard
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I came back to ROM eternal love after 7 years my gamplay is just
>log in
>spend my stamina on raids for the ancient equipment
>log out
I hate this stamina system, my gameplay is done after 5 mins, is there anything else I should be doing? (already did every quest I could with my power)
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>>2978880
>I hate this stamina system, my gameplay is done after 5 mins, is there anything else I should be doing? (already did every quest I could with my power)
Fusing for +15 shit and pet collecting
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ragna/v/ 4 will come with it's own unique imageboard that has IDs so you can /rog/post without the dramawhoring and samefagging
i saw it in a dream
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>>2980037
Well, you can make your own board in 8ch, I was already planning to shill for ragna/v/ in other *chans anyway
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>>2980037
If you do this Silk is not going to play anymore
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ro in 2027
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>>2980037
Sounds good. Whatever to make the fucking shakes stop man, I'm jonesing for some Ragnarok Online.
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Since my Uaro adventure didin't last long i wasn't able to satire my nostalgia
>Found a server that's releasing at Episode 5 which is the only RO i know and it's painful rates at 0.5x also which is the only way i'll feel like my old noob self staying longer at low level fields.
Give me pointers for a Wizard. is my self made tree look good or needs any change? I kinda like having a roadmap like when i'm playing PoE and farm my equipments 1 by 1. any kind of help would be noted.
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>>2984395
>episode 5
>0.5 rates
I'll be shocked if you even make far enough to jobchange into Wizard.
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>>2984411
Me too. i wasn't even able to job-change into a Knight back in 2002 xd
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bullies please help
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>>2984600
we're playing other stuff rn
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>>2984395
Link?
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>>2980037
That's just 8 chan dot moe
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>>2984395
>JT 5
he's not gonna make it
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>>2980037
>4
will you really fall for his ruse again?
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>>2985213
gee whizz no i just want to jerk myself off in /rog/ and not play anything
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bring back KuRO you fucking sluts
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zombRO: The server never dies
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>>2985229
lol ok, fag
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There is finally a server coming that will be huge without a shop or botting, and checking this thread and the last thread no one knows about it, which is FUCKING SWEET, none of you will be in it I can't wait for it
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>>2986133
Ok randy
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>ROSE won bizarre MMOdventure
proto rejejle
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>>2986133
>nobody knows about sunshine
do your research my man we already ruled it out, also it's already up, kind of, if you aren't already mid 40s you'll never catch up
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>>2987058
I never did try ROSE back in the day even with everyone calling it Ragnarok Online Second Edition, maybe I should.
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>>2987340
Spoonfeed me like a retard, the only one I found was a spanish one with 3000x/3000x/3000x
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>>2987984
He's lying and I will never tell any of you the server, it's not on RMS, it has 511 confirmed players currently, 80 playing in the beta as I'm making this post, no rmt/bot/p2w/shop, and 90% of the playerbase is from first world countries
I will not say more, but I am happy that every mentally ill fags here will never find it
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>calling people mentally ill while displaying mentally ill behavior
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>>2988400
You couldn't tell it was Lull from the victim complex from the get-go?
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>>2988286
>500+ players
>not on rms
Bruh, why lie, even /v3/ had someone list it on rms at some point and that never got to such numbers. You can't get together 500 RO degenerates without having someone leak it.
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>>2968464
ragna/v/ ads were financed by George W Bush and the saudis to prevent another dot com crisis from happening
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Who /stuck in 2004/ here
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>>2989475
>Who /stuck in 2004/ here
>fps: 95
not you
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>>2989475
I miss that menu UI

>>2989481
>he doesn't know about CRT refresh rates
lmao
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>fps
>refresh rate
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>>2989517
What about scribbling kid
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>>2989621
Never really liked scribbling kid, I meant the shape of the main menu with the buttons on the right instead of that drop down transparent box.
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scribbling kid is fucking gay and for faggots
real men used literally anything else
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custom ui are ugly, no exceptions
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>>2986133
>>2988286
>ep5 1x rates
Yeah I dunno about this one chief, ep5 is sovl incarnate though but I dont think I have it in me for 1x.
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>>2991443
Scribbling kid is stock you retard nigger
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>>2989621
What happened to alignments?
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>>2992391
retard
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>>2970034
That's okay, because I will be Priesting because it was genuine >fun.
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>>2992787
I miss you, Lull
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>playing ROSE with the /v/iggers
>everyone is a healsissy class
>remember back in 2024 there was practically nobody playing a fucking priest in ragna/v/
something has gone very wrong in the last two years
or very right
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>>2993141
I miss you, Gredex
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ninja is surprisingly fun
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>>2992399
Scrapped idea after the data leak alongside with a bunch of other stuff. It just took them forever to remove it from the UI.
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>>2992787
Literally Who?
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I miss her so much...
I hope to see her again in v4...
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i will play whatever bullies wants
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i will lick my own balls instead of helping anyone
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>>2995148
Even the constantly getting PK'd by Yisang?
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What Class changes should remain or leave in /v4/?
I hope Dev let Chadsmiths use Mammo/CT for free again, good change that came too late.
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>>2998694
Just never add Hypno and we good
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>>2998804
sorry, anon. the sissy hypno is here to stay.
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>>2998919
Hypno was never /v/3 thoughbeit
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>>2998924
that just means the sissy hypno worked on you, anon. thinking about playing priest? female sprite? pink poofy dress?
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>>2998926
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>>2994460
What the hell was that even for? Were dialogue choices actually going to matter?
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>>2999562
>more neo-rog babbling
dialogue choices already matter you sputtering retard, some of them will completely and permanently lock you out of completing quests. ccro retard.
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>>2998694
Dual-wielding daggers for Stalker.
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>>3000254
I know who you are
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>>2999562
We just don't know.
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>>2999562
https://tcrf.net/Ragnarok_Online#Unimplemented_Features
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>>3001028
Good lord, Moonlight's naked!
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The thing about RO and MMORPGs is how the timed events, be it WoE raids or whatever is such a chore, nowadays I prefer games that I can pick and drop whenever I want whatever day I want and leave whenever I want without stupid feelings of commitment and letting people down because they won't able to do X Y or Z without you your class your role whatever.

I think this is why MMORPGs have declined in popularity, its hard to compare how intrusive this genre is compared to many other online games that offer a better pick up and play experience, better competitive experience for those who want this angle, less grind or no grind and more. Sure online games always existed on PC but now they're far more widespread and encompass more subgenres and may just scratch the MMORPG itch enough not to play those games that have those annoying mechanics designed to keep you subscribed forever, made to waste your time, like upgrading gear breaking them, it's just kid gambling designed by homos
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>>3001693
>I want whatever day I want and leave whenever I want without stupid feelings of commitment and letting people down because they won't able to do X Y or Z without you your class your role whatever.
Sounds like you don't want to play a social game at all, then
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>>3001693
Just don't do WoE.
Ragnarok is literally the last of the games of exactly what you want. Theres no stamina limits and lockouts aside from Endless Tower. You can literally just log on and do fucking anything else without some dogshit korean anti-suicide prevention system telling you how much you're allowed to play the game.
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>>3002142
I think for the type of experience I describe, you need a server with literal thousands of concurrent players in order to always have something going on in the RO server, multiple parties in different places so you can drop in and check what's going on and pick a group to play with. With the numbers of people currently playing this, you'll end shackled to a small tiny group and then you know what happens, you'll get those small windows of activity which means play X time of the day or you get nothing. Or you get those solo-servers like the card one where everyone is playing by himself with multiclients and with enough cards and costumes you become quite super saiyan

>>3001987
Maybe, but it's just that the lack of people playing this makes each person way more valuable and it helps to create the sensation of being a chore, of being work, because if I don't support, there will be no supports and so on.
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>>3002207
>you need a server with literal thousands of concurrent players
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>>3002220
Thousands, not a thousand and 400, there was a time where servers would have that much, not anymore sadly.
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>>3001035
Maya too
It's great innit

a shame all nu-RO servers censored em
including the Isis mobs
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>>2992787
hey i remember this because im there! the bishop card drop! good memories in that server
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>don't do the literal only thing in the game that has the potential (and not even the promise) to be challenging
lol
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>>3003580
sorry bro, it just sucks
you're either south american or southeast asian
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3o3830RKnHU
>Novaro devs
Thoughts?
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>>3005564
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPL26t75ZKk
This is a better video
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>>3005564
>>3005570
>samsara
its jeetslop
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ROSE is truly renewal there is no doubt that a bunch of the staff absorbed by gravity went on to work on RO.
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i wish there was a server like uaro but with gm's who aren't retarded crayon eaters and gameplay loop ruining slop (infinite fly wing, repeatable exp quests etc)
or a server like payon stories but with x3 rates.
why does every pre-re server have a bunch of dumb gimmicks? just give me pre-renewal classic plus with backported content.

>>3001693
total gaslighting. mmo's declined in popularity because western game studios can't make good games anymore and eastern mmo design evolved into gacha. oldschool runescape, wow classic, etc already proved this ice cold take wrong.
if anything over-casualization and going for mass appeal is a big reason why almost all post-wow western mmo's flopped.
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>>2989481
i had a 160hz flat panel 16:10 crt before ragnarok online came out.
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>>3006497
so?
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>>3007006
having a ghetto computer and dial-up isn't part of my ragnarok nostalgia. this game came out in the 2000's and im not from a developing country.
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>>3006497
Sorry bud, but no matter how good your flat panel screen was, good coding would not run at 30+ fps on the hardware of that time.
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>>3007018
okay
>>3007044
maybe 30+ but definitely not 95
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>>3007044
the original frame cap is 60fps
if you don't think pc's were capping frames on old video games you were poor and im sorry your parents' office computer sucked.
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>>3007530
Most weren't, and others were very configurable. "bad hardware" doesn't mean we were all playing at 20fps in the old days always. You're far too young if you think high framerates are a modern thing.

t. Quake 2/3 vet playing at ~85fps (thats the highest my monitor could handle)
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>>3007530
Specifically ro. It was known to run like shit. You had a lot of games that ran well, but RO was horrid when it came to performance. Hell, even know it tends to run like ass compared to the hardware its on.
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>>3007608
Texture quality actually had an effect back then, and gave some big frames as well as toggling off lightmap and most people playing a 800x600 or 1024x768. Inside prontera was a nightmare nobody was running in double digit frames there.
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>>3007608
i never had any issues but i also used to build the most expensive pc humanly possible every 2 years and i'd been on broadband since the 90s. far cry 1 was the first time i ever really experienced frame lag on a video game. it took pc's a few years to catch up to that one.
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>people unironically outing themselves as poor third worlders this easily
lmfao
I was playing on a flat panel back in the golden age (2006~2008) while rocking this card, 60fps and more was the standard for me, specially on RO
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>>3009561
Do you want to know how I know you are full of shit? Because RO ran like shit even on modern hardware. You can't make a game run magically better, certain effects would dumpster the framerate, and yes, even with years of patches on officials it still struggled.
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>>3009729
Truth. Rushing castles back on iro was a crapshoot, even with effects off.
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>posts a pic zoomed in, inside an empty ass dungeon
>UMM BUT WHAT ABOUT 500 PEOPLE ON SCREEN SPAMING LOV AND METEOR?
you argue like a foid
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who are you quoting
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