>>2950457
The official wiki is:
https://valheim.weirdgloop.org/
It isn't advertisement-infested and full of bloat, unlike fagdom

Where's the vm server

>>2950547
i know it's been 15 years but i don't remember skyrim looking that bad

I thought I'd try out fishing this run because I've never done it in earnest before
Guys, this shit kinda sucks
I ate some honey, queen's jam, and a cloudberry, and I was barely able to catch perches before my stamina was empty, and that was with waiting for the fish to stop struggling before I tried reeling them in
How the hell are you supposed to be catching anything more difficult?
>just drag them onto the beach and pick them up, bro
That doesn't get you the bonus loot, which is the only thing making fishing worth doing, as otherwise you're basically just wasting time catching what's essentially wolf meat, except wolf meat is so much easier to get and doesn't require a food prep table like fish does

>>2950588
According to the wiki weirdgoop, higher skills don't give a bonus chance to give you more fish? That's only for the rest of the fishes but if you really need to fish within stamina limits, building a harbor sticking out would help, to push out more dry land to meet the fishes with.

>>2950588
cast line out, reel it in with nothing on it
repeat this for a while until you feel your level is high
xp is 0.25/s while reeling, doubled if you have a fish on the hook but you need to stop and such so its really never double
this dramatically increases reel speed and stamina efficiency and allows you to catch fish much easier
alternatively sit on a boat and do tap casts so you only need to reel in for a second once they bite

>>2950604
theres no bonus loot but higher level fish are effectively impossible to obtain without cheesing it a little at lower skill, and higher fish levels give waaaay more per cut

>>2950604
>higher skills don't give a bonus chance to give you more fish?
>>2950621
>theres no bonus loot
I'm talking about the bonus loot in addition to the fish meat
Perch can give you stone and amber, troll fish can give you troll hide and copper, northern salmon can give you carrot seeds and silver, etc.
You only get that bonus loot if you fully reel in the fish and it gets absorbed into your inventory, because that's when the bonus loot is rolled; just picking up the fish out of a weir doesn't give you any chances for the loot, it just gives you the fish
>>2950609
I mean I tried doing that, but if you get too close to the fish, they become panicked and won't bite

>>2950693
There's no way to cheese the fishing then if there's a minimum distance to reel it in with. I recall that you can chug stamina potions mid game but you listed off early game materials so I doubt you can do that now.

you guys are making me want to grab a handful of my vodka girly drinks and just fish off the dock for the rest of tonight watching whatever bullshit on youtube instead of tackling my anime backlog

>>2950719
Hey, if you are a mage those fishes will be useful in the last Biome for food

>>2950733
I dont like magic and ive completed the game

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Got raided by swamp monsters while at my silver mining camp, and after it was over I found this golem stuck in a crater with entrails and bones strewn about. Think it would be cool to build something near him, but no clue what

Is there some kind of modern replacement for Better Continents mod or should I wait for the updated version?

I am going to try and tame some wolves when I'm back in the game. These raids are getting ridiculous. I hope I won't get oneshot with my swamp armor trying to do that.

>>2950860
it will take a while, especially if they're starred. i recommend making some taming meads beforehand if you've found your witch

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well this is new. black forest biome that's filled with ghosts.

>>2950945
Really fucking cool, but it's a shame they aren't more threatening. If you go in there with swamp gear they aren't anything but an annoyance.

what determines if a basement will flood, proximity to the ocean, or altitude?

>>2951040
altitude
but being close to the shore means water will rise during storms

>>2951040
A bit of both. Water level is constant throughout the world. If you are in a particularly low spot in the middle of a continent you can dig down to water. Whether or not that water is effected by waves is dependent on your proximity to large bodies of water.

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I have an idea for a mega-taming structure. First floor(grey) will be semi-underground and will be the taming and breeding place for wolves. It will have a smaller cell for a couple of wolves that will be breeding as much as possible, while the outer room will be my panic button. Full of tamed wolves that I will open a door when I'm getting raided, and the breeding couple will stay locked behind. Upper floors would be split in half, one half for boars, the other half for chickens.

Has anyone done something like this? More importantly, has anyone done this without looking like a Walmart storage?

>>2951065
https://youtu.be/qmvLZRqZ3Ig

>>2951065
won't the wolves stop breeding if there are too many tamed wolves close by?

>>2951123
there's a limit per surface area

>>2951076
>this 3d labyrinth
Ye that's exactly what I'm trying to avoid.

>>2951123
Correct. I don't want a million wolves, just 4-6 disposable ones each time I'm getting raided. After the raid I'll just feed the initial 2 wolves so they can produce a few more for the next raid.

>>2951138
You have to keep the breeding pair quite far from the other ones. That’s why auto breeders are usually towers that drop the babies from height.

I hate that clothes count as inventory slots instead of...clothes you put shit into as inventory.

>>2951237
Need a mod that removes 4 inventory slots and adds 4 equipment slots

>>2951238
What a Swedish suggestion. I'm surprised the devs didn't do this themselves.

>>2951504
It's a perfect solution for your perceived problem

it's another episode of can't decide on where to build my base.

>>2951237
Aren't there mods for transmog?

>>2951553
It's not my problem, I'm playing without extra slots or backpacks for the first time in years because they finally added an in game way to upgrade your inventory.

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It's starting to come together.

>>2951644
Stiltskino

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>>2951707
I've still got to make a dock and a boat for the other side that's more on the water.
I thought I'd be able to keep my smelters on wood platforms on the same stilty stuff as the other housing but in hindsight expected that does seem kinda stupid. So all the metal processing is going to have to go on land but I think it'll look cool enclosed in the very first copper pit I mined in this world (after it's all dug out).

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>find a bear cave
>with a fir tree next to it with a beehive in it
Never knew they put beehives in trees...despite the kind of obvious real life connection.

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Terraformed too much anon here, I'm currently deathmarching to enjoy some proper foightin' down through the forests to put a portal down on the stones and maybe the elder if I can walk to him.
My loot chest for all the dosh stuff has already filled and now I'm onto a second one and I'm nowhere near finished marching.

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>Life after turning off invasions
I'll probably turn them back on eventually but fortifying bases while at Black Forest is too time consuming. Also those damn Greydwarves swim better than Michael Phelps

if I only cover half of a 2x2 wood floor with a roof, does it still take rain damage?

>>2952097
>During rainy weather, players and objects not under a Roof become wet. A roof will protect from rain if it is within 100 meters directly above the center of the object in question. This is not the same as the Shelter Effect—shelter checks that a player is mostly enclosed in all directions, whereas rain can only be deterred by a non-"leaky" object directly above.
so if the roof ends over the center of the 2x2, that should count as coverage since that works for walls?

know what I really wish they added? triangular shaped crystal walls, like the new timberbood pieces. plus why can't I make things like support beams (similar to flammetal) out of black metal? seems like a huge waste, given how plentiful it is.

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What am I looking at hoss?

Should I break the rock or what?

>>2952131
never seen anything like that before, must be new. no idea but my guess is it's just set dressing, nothing to worry about. either there's ore, or maybe you'll fall through and end up in a dungeon or something but I doubt it.

>>2952080
They're so boring I can't even judge people for turning them off.
Like the very first times you get them, I think they have an alright impact on the experience of the game, but that stops.

I guess I respect the gjall raids in mistlands a bit.

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minimalism.

>>2952131
Thats a point of interest
The small rocks are actually Mysterious Rocks

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Consider this my application to join stiltsgang

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>>2952402
It's lonely at the top of the stilts.
I like that center roof design, I am taking notes.

more like slitsgang

deep north would have been better with a "freeze to death" mechanic, no amount of furs would protect you in -50

>>2951563
1st base should be on some peninsula or at the mouth of a river, and right next to a black forest so you can ferry copper back without much issue
2nd base should be in some plains that are bordering the mistlands
3rd base is optional since the ashlands gives you stone portals that let you take everything back to your 2nd base, and which I assume will let you take deep north stuff back as well

>>2952111
I wish we had 2x2 crystal walls instead of only 1x1s
you can't see shit out of them because of the edge texture

>>2953472
being wet & cold there should've at least started to kill you

>>2953540
being wet and cold in even the black forest is dangerous, but it does nothing because you are wearing a wolf cape over metal armour

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>new forge isn't showing up in any of my nearby islands
>fuck it, check out the map gen site to see where it spawned on my seed
>one of them is just in an island a sea away from where i fought the bonemass
fuck it

just started swamp crypting
I am immediately regretting not setting my rates to 3x
I think I'm gonna finish off this swamp and then change it

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So if I get this right, these new idol thingies, are mostly for niche items that fall off in the late game due to their low armor stats, like the root armor or the fenris leggings. But even then, it doesn't make much sense. Fernis leggings has 16 armor at +4, at +6 it should go at 20 armor. The base Ask trousers starts at 28. It doesn't make any difference, the fenris still stays obsolete armor-wise. And that's taking into account you would win the 65% gamble twice in a row, so 42% chance. For weapons, it's even less of a difference from what I see. Let's take the Iron Battleaxe. At +4 it does 88 damage, which is also a lie because that is the maximum damage at skill lvl 100. With 2 successful rituals, it will go to 100 at +6. The next weapon upgrade in this class is the Crystal Battleaxe which starts at 90 at base and goes to 96 at +1. The risk doesn't justify the reward.
>But these are for the very-lategame players who still need more damage over their +4 Nord Sword
Then why add the chore for wooden weapons? Why add the chore for the bronze axe that will be obsolete in 2 hours of gameplay? Why add the chore for the iron battleaxe that you can't even upgrade with the ritual until you go to the mountains, which is also the place where you get a better upgrade even after you succeed twice with the ritual? Because finding the idols in the first place wasn't a big enough chore, finding the Forge of Potential which is in my next biome wasn't a big enough chore, do I also have to risk 125 iron ingots on a 42% chance just so I can get a worse weapon than the next tier?
Even if they remove the failure chance for lower tier gear, it still barely makes any sense to bother with this mechanic.

>>2953778
failure chance shouldnt exist but nothing recently added has had much thought put into it, trinkets were a great idea that completely missed the mark with the adrenaline gain rates and overall balancing. this upgrade gamble system is just for the retards who make videos in their 2000 hour worlds to have something to explore the entire map for.

>>2953766
Is it that bad? I've got mine set to x1.5 and it's felt pretty ok so far. I haven't done much yet though, still have yet to get bronze gear and slay the Elder.

>>2953826
the demand for iron is fucking huge where a single crypt run won't be enough to cover for what you'll need

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>>2953766
Are you sure you aren't forgetting to check in the chests that exist in the crypts? In my playthrough I cleared these crypts on the right, and I just started exploring the ones on the left, the first chest I opened in the one I circled had that much iron. It's almost impossible to have an issue with finding iron, the hard part is transporting it back to base.

>>2953826
I know from previous playthroughs that the amount of iron I am going to end up needing is going to be somewhat staggering, and so far I'm averaging <30 iron per crypt. Realistically, I'm only going to need to get 4 stacks of 30 since that's all the karve can carry, but 120 iron is barely going to put a dent in my future needs, and spending more time in the swamp than I have to is not desirable

>>2953839
I am checking all the chests, however, so far about 1/4 have had iron, while 3/4 have been full of leather scraps, chains, valuables, ancient bark, and poison arrows, and anything else I'm forgetting

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>>2953848
To be fair, crypt generation is RNG, so you may find one crypt like I did that had 4 rooms in total and nothing inside, or you can find a jackpot crypt like I did yesterday that had 140 iron scraps. The one I just finished had this much inside, and I can already see the next one from the roof of this one. Default resource modifier, since the chest loot isn't affected by that 2x or 3x multiplier, and the majority of scraps comes from chests so I dunno.

>>2953866
>since the chest loot isn't affected by that 2x or 3x multiplier, and the majority of scraps comes from chests so I dunno.
It is affected by the 3x multiplier, but it doesn't create new stacks, and allegedly only works for crypts generated with the setting in place.
So with 3x, regardless if you rolled 10 or 20 iron in the chest, the stack is still capped at 30.

someone please post the most optimal way to place the forge upgrades around the forge, without putting them on another floor or in another room, because these shits are so annoying with how much invisible space they take up

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>>2953892
here you go, the best layout possible

>greyling has moved into the base a while back
>return after exploring mountains for a few days
>a second greyling is hanging out in my forge
>he swipes at me
>just as I move to kill him the other greyling runs up to me
>pause
>second greyling runs off
>no more violence from him; I now have two adopted freaks
I don't know what the fuck is wrong with these enemies' ai. I'm sort of curious how many I will get eventually.

>>2953940
>just cheat bro
:/

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>>2953892
not optimal, just seems like the tightest that you could squeeze them in is in a 4x4 layout

>get to ashlands for the first time
>finish making a base camp
>i guess its time to explore
>big ass bird and bone demon spawn as soon as I start to explore
damn, this place really is hell.

Deep Northies

What is the point of the shovel? Snow doesn't seem to slow you down on foot and snow comes back even after shoveling.

Does completely sealing a structure block the wind blowing through it or does that happen anyway?

>>2954001
morgen are fun to parry because their attack pattern is the same timing no matter the ability and you can lock them in place forever
parry -> swing twice, never thrice -> parry repeat
>>2954021
when you hover repair on a roof piece and it flashes blue, it means snow will break it eventually once theres too much of it. you can completely prevent this by reinforcing it more until they are all happy greens. otherwise not much use besides clearing spots to build portals. I leave my shovel behind in my northie base usually. still funny that we turned the emerald flame into a fucking shovel

>>2954102
>morgen are fun to parry because their attack pattern is the same timing no matter the ability and you can lock them in place forever
yeah lol it's extremely satisfying

>>2953841
>and so far I'm averaging <30 iron per crypt
In one crypt i had 5 stacks of 30 iron.

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I always just make a little base near a crypt by the ocean then clear out like ~5 nearby crypts and slowly bring all the iron to the one base to sail back to my main base.
usually fill my longship.
never really need more after that.

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you guys have good portal names?
>jew, wife, hag and casino for traders and forge
>asuka and rei for ashlands and deep north bases
>swamp is FART
>fuwawa and mococo for mountains
>entoma is mistlands
>taiga for plains

>>2954168
My portal names are usually just generic and straight to the point. If it goes to a plains biome it's just going to be called "Plains", if it goes to a boss it's just the boss name etc.
"Forest Jew" and base names are the only exceptions most of the time
>fuwawa and mococo for mountains
Bau bau my nigga

>>2954168
away
away2

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>>2953892
>>2953994
Need about 4x4 Large Stone Floor and about 2 walls high to cram every crafting station (except workbench) in Vanilla.

PATCH NOTES

>* Fixed a bug where terrain modifications by players or monsters could lead to performance and portal issues in multiplayer, such as performance and portaling issues, terrain seams, and terrain modifications becoming undone
was having this in singleplayer, hope thats fixed

>>2954168
>fuwawa and mococo for mountains
Is this just based on the size of the mountain or what?

>>2954168
Do a naming convention like "Gateway XX" with the X replaced by numbers (Gateway 01, Gateway 02 etc) then place the names on the map because map icons can accept more characters (Gateway 01: Haldor ... Gateway 15: Deepnorth). That's just what I do. I usually name them based on what one would expect to find when they arrive, be it merchants, boss altars, or the biome themselves.

While I'm at it, I should explain that you only need two portals at your base, your main "Gateway" and then another one called "Return" or "Home" or "127.0.0.1" if you're a faggot. See how it works is,

1. You establish a portal at your base.
2. Go out into the world, put a portal somewhere, and name that second portal the same as the first, right? You got two portals with the same name.
3. When you create a third portal, it needs a fourth in order to always be active. Only, you can simply rename the main portal in order to switch when necessary.
4. So you establish a second "Home" portal at your base
5. When you go out into the world, you establish that fourth portal and name it Home so you can get back to your house
6. Then, rename the first portal with whatever name you want the fourth portal to have, then travel back through the Home portal to get back to where you established the fourth portal and rename it, too.

Now, you got four portals:
1. Your main bitch, named the same as portal 4
2. Your first foreign portal, named whatever you originally named it
3. Your Home portal, which should now be inactive
4. A fourth portal, named whatever you originally named it

Anytime you want to go back to portal 2, you just change the name of portal 1, do your business, but them COME BACK TO YOUR BASE. otherwise, you carry a "pocket portal" and name it Home so you can come back when you establish it, and follow that same protocol to name it as well.

Point is, this is better than having several portals at your base, whole rooms of motherfucking portals.

>>2954256
I have a set of portals surrounding my warehouse to major bases and the powers, then have 2 portals to change based on need. in my house hidden away is the sacred "oops" portal that MUST be freed up if it is ever called upon as soon as possible which has saved my ass plenty.

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>>2954153
>near a crypt
Why not ON a crypt? And ye, I do the same thing. Ideally park my boat on a calmer nearby biome, and either craft a cart and prepare some terrain for the road to cryptbase -> boat, or stack deerbuff and ratatosk and zoom back and forth a couple times.

>>2953994
Perhaps I'm blind, but where are the copper-tier anvils?
>>2954168
I call my plains portal "strife" because when I first encountered them, I found cloudberries, which reminded me of cloud strife. It's also an accurate description of what to expect in the plains.
Good naming conventions tho.
Where Mofufu?
>>2954210
That's both on a different floor and in a different room.

>>2954324
I just firepole dropped from my portal room to my bed room to the forge room. The forge itself is taking like 2 large stone floor in foot print only, all the upgrade it needs is at shoulder height.

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>>2954153
The swamp that has the Bonemass altar tends to have lots of crypts so I'll always look for that first before building anything in a swamp, but once I do find a spot I like to start fortifying it and use it as a hub for smelting before shipping the iron wherever it's needed.
Just started on a small base right next to the witch, Bonemass is nearby too and so are plenty of crypts.

>>2954210
How the fuck do you enjoy this claustrophobic torture chamber?

>>2954241
Oh good. My friends and I had to quit after a while during our first landing in deep north. It was 1fps and the portals were getting people stuck in limbo.

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>>2954579
I started the base during Mistland and was terrified that G'jall raids or worse from later patches would nuke the shit out of my base so made it with a caldera bunker as its foundations and just space-maxed for all future requirements.

>>2954241
>2021
>Valheim runs pretty well, except there's some performance issues in areas with a lot of terrain modification
>2026
>Valheim runs pretty well, except there's some performance issues in areas with a lot of terrain modification

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ok this mod that let's you see your map at the cartography table is neat
this path was when i was sure im heading straight north to place a portal at the edge of my continent

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>don't like crafting from storage
>feels like it ruins base building since you lose the function part of building a base
>think the log and stone piles are neat, but much better off just placing the stone in a chest
Made me realize what I think would be fun, if there was a mod that let build structures out of those types of resource piles as long as they're in range of the stonecutter or whatever.
Would make progress of builds look a lot neater, especially in mp.
Obviously not something that should be base game, but would love an immersive mod like that.

>>2954641
https://thunderstore.io/c/valheim/p/MSchmoecker/DynamicStoragePiles

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>>2954324
actually good question. turns out that build is only level 6, i only showed that one since it's easier to see how much space you'll need with the tiles. here's my current since the image that i posted was from my old pre-1.0 map that i decided to come back to and finish some business...

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I used to think I had a good idea on how comfort ranges worked but in my most recent rendition of the sort of tavern/inn build I usually do I cannot for the life of me figure out why I only get comfort 18 in the middle of the place. Do I need to bury more beds under the floorboards? place more banners? as you see in the screenshot I have 13 in this corner, despite getting 5 more levels closer to the stoves.

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There Will Be Blood.

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I was in an insane Infested Mine.
I didn't even finish exploring it since I just needed the vegvisir and I was low on supplies.
3 spiral staircases in those big water rooms.
1 long thin staircase, one of those long hallway staircases.
Another spiral staircase that you often see in the entrance chamber.
Most of it was connected without shut doors, so a lot of enemies were attracted to the noise in the hallway.
I think I killed 20+ Seekers in that starting hallway.

3 seeker soldiers, 1 of which camped the top of a staircase and had 1 star.
Lucky to not encounter any 2 stars considering the numbers.

Some of those smaller rooms aren't perfectly to scale, but close enough.

>>2954998
From what I recall, they gave comfort to a bunch of build items that previously did not have any associated with them. It could be that you're simply not in range of those items when you're in that far corner

>>2954999
this keeps happening after patch
fucking greynigs are so much more nosy

>>2955052
problem is that I'm not in range of all of it unless I'm smack dab in the center of the building, but it's not that big of a space and I have furniture and decorations literally everywhere. did they nerf burying comfort items under the floorboards? I have the base's only dragon bed under a wood floor where the wolf carpet is in that screenshot

>sail away from mistlands
>fog so thick I end up going the wrong way and end up at my last outpost
>idle until I can sleep
>storm

>>2955063
>did they nerf burying comfort items under the floorboards?
Not according to any source I've seen
I know the hearth's comfort range is lower than the range at which it provides the fire effect, and it doesn't look like you're within range of the thrones either where you're standing. I think the ovens also give comfort now, which you're far from, and the mead casks might too?

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I got stranded here years ago when I played.

Boat got destroyed and I tried to get the nails and deer hides back from the bottom of the ocean.
Climbed the cliff above the dungeon and removed my feather cape before jumping down, while trying to get enough momentum to reach the bottom.
If I had just made a work bench close enough they wouldn't have despawned and maybe I could've gotten them back.
I think at one point my 3 foods were Magecap, Jotun Puffs and Cooked Serpent Meat.

>>2954420
lovely camp

Why the fuck won't birch saplings drop from their tress I have hundreds of beech seeds but I don't want beech seeds I want a forest of birch trees.

>>2955550
I think they have to be “mature”

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Think I should try hunting down the merchants? I could gunsmoke Elder right now then probably get enough iron to make a real boat relatively quickly then go do it.

Or gamble and go out in a Karve and hope for a quick miracle.

>>2955666
I usually wait til I get an iron boat, the carve is kind of shitty and can't outrun a sea serpent IIRC.

>>2955666
wait for longboat

>>2955644
Trees have multiple growth stages?

>>2955550
they are not very giving with the seeds, i feel like acorns are more plentiful
you'd have to chop a plains forest to come away with a worthwhile yield

I don’t understand why the stone fence breaks when stacked on another one.

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After some difficulties, it's time to head back and cash out on our iron grind.

>>2956094
good haul

>>2956068
They're really janky. Seems like they require a frame of sorts to sit in for them to not crumble. If you build up a regular wooden wall first and then snap the stone fences inside those walls you should be good.

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>local viking makes landfall in Swamp and has to retreat thrice back through a portal
First the 2 star zombie greeted me with a bro, literally where I landed, then some absolutely fucking crazy ass skeletons dealing 1 gorillion more damage than the forest ones nearly killed me because I was caught off guard, another 2 with a 1 star zombies noise checked me, 3 of the green slime fucks throughout all this, I try to make up toward a raised cabin and a fresh squad spawn in behind me and I pull out the bow to snipe them and the first fucking shot misses, lands into the water of the swamp where I assumed nothing was present, and this tree fuck spawned out the god damn ground to come murder me because I accidentally stealth attacked something that I didn't even know about.

Jesus titty fucking christ I landed in 'Nam.

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>>2956175
and right after the tree died I turned around and ate a 1 star skeleton archer bolt for 90 damage straight out of deep water, now I'm fuckin dead.

>>2956175
You made one crucial mistake. You landed head in into swamps. Should have scouted for a nearby meadows or black forest bordering this swamp. So when shit hits the fan like it did with you, you can always run back to the safety of the earlier biomes. Other than that, yea, welcome to the most ass biome in the game before Mistlands. If you play on Hard, these 2 starred archer ghouls will be oneshotting you even if you get all the upgrades from this biome.
>>2956108
Thanks. had to leave half a stack behind because I miscalculated how heavy a pocket-boat is, and I couldn't be arsed to do another foot trip for 15 iron after carrying 360 back.

>>2956208
I'd rather know why the god damn skeletons are more dangerous than the zombies.

>>2956242
Unconstrained by flesh.

>>2956242
The swedes overcompensated. Skellies used to just be the basic shitter skellies regardless of biome so they were a joke. Now they have upgraded versions per biome and they hot harder than they really should. Not that I'll complain much, it's nice that they're a threat. They still die fast so as long as you don't get overwhelmed you should be fine.
Bring an atgeir if you must, its spin attack dunks on hordes so you can even run straight into those spawner clusters that have like 3 different spawners and be perfectly fine so long as you manage your stamina.

>>2956242
Because you didn't learn the lessons from the blue troll in the previous biome. Not every hit is parriable, and when you see stars, not every hit is worth risking parrying it. If I see a 2 star ghoul or skeleton in the swamp and he is alone, I dodge roll his hits and do my combos, especially if I know how to chain stagger him. If the 2 star has company, I do an 180 and pretend that part of the map doesn't exist.

>>2956322
>I dodge roll his hits and do my combos
Just back up when he swings and save some stamina lol

>>2956356
>mob behind him pushes him forward while swinging so he stays in range

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>>2956322
But I did learn my lesson about trolls and parrying, that's why I didn't try parrying the abomination, clearly the troll upgrade, and was shocked that when I did on a whim I staggered the shit out of him and beat his ass.
The amount of times I get ambushed by some skeleton archer while I fight so many abominations that I have a fully upgraded chest piece is ridiculous, I'm not worried about the giant tree enemy I can parry, I'm worried about some guerilla skeleton 0-1 star archers sitting in 5 foot high water slapping my ass while I fight.

God I can't wait for these turnips to finish so I can make whatever food they let me make.

Is it just for me or does world gen hate flat land?

managed to get a perpetual fire buff somehow

redpill me on no portals mode, the immersive preset selects it.

>>2956933
Homer will write your story.

>>2956933
It wastes your time so that you can earn imaginary big dick points on anonymous anime forums when you mention that you're playing with that rule

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I mined out the entire underside of a deposit, tall enough to walk under, but the copper didn't break.
Very disappointing. Also it seems there is a limit to how far I can dig down.
Can't be a tunneler.

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>>2957093
nevermind I found the secret spot to destroy everything.
well worth it

>>2955550
Only beech trees are truly renewable; all the other trees have drop rates for saplings that are less than 1:1
You can somewhat fix this by turning the rates up to max, but even then, it's chance-based and some trees like oaks may still not be renewable
>>2955744
No, he's trolling. Trees only exist in the 'sapling' and 'grown' states

>>2955666
>>2955685
>>2955692
The karve is perfectly fine for exploring - better than the longboat even, since the acceleration is faster, and so is the paddling speed for when the wind inevitably shifts. It can also absolutely outrun a serpent, it just depends on the wind speed.

>>2957248
>The karve is perfectly fine for exploring
Early on, yes.
>better than the longboat even
Now that is just ironlet cope. The longship is far FAR better at handling waves during storms, can tank a decent amount of hits, paddles at almost the exact same speed (it's actually slightly faster, 3.14 m/s vs 3.16 m/s) but is way faster when sailing, and has actual useable storage space in addition to having deck space for a cart or animals. The ONLY reason to ever use a Karve over a longship is to navigate narrow rivers.

it's crazy how many things just 1shot you in this game.

>>2956175
>>2956185
One has to wonder why they decided to buff skeletons in later biomes without telling anyone, especially in the swamp where they were already somewhat dangerous since they'd sit in the middle of a deep lake and shoot arrows at you. I don't think it was necessary to give each biome after the meadows up to the plains their own buffed variant.

>>2956362
>walk backwards while strafing sideways so they can't do that

>>2957093
>>2957210
https://valheim.weirdgloop.org/w/Copper_Deposit#Gallery
>bounding boxes
>>2957326
The longship takes forever to get going if the wind is not ideal, and it easily gets stuck on underwater rocks and terrain. It's better for hauling lots of shit like a cargo ship, but the karve is simply the better exploration boat, especially since its components weigh less and take less inventory slots
>>2957383
Depends on your preparedness, food, and armor desu, but yes

>>2957487
>take less inventory slots
nevermind I'm trippin'

>>2957487
The few seconds of extra time it takes to get going with paddling is made up for by saving orders of magnitude more time on sailing across oceans. Parking better mitigates that paddling startup time a lot too if we're assuming the wind is always against you.
You can sail at full speed extremely close to shore without ever bumping into shit so if that's an issue you're having then I must assume you're practically scraping the side of your ship against the beach at all times.
Carrying lots of extra shit while exploring is valuable because it lets you set up bases as you go, without having to go mining every time you need a forge or stonecutter. Absolutely worth it over the Karve.

Berry bushes drop seeds so I can plant them somewhere else, right?

>>2957638
nope.

5 years in EA and this game is still unplayable without mods

>>2957638
No, they're simply plants that exist out in the world that regenerate their berries every 5 hours. Once destroyed, there's no way to get another plant, save for spawning one in with console commands. The same goes for every other berry plant, except for vineberries in the asslands.
There's also the 'plant everything' mod that lets you replant them for a cost of like, 10 berries or so.

I don't know why it's so hard for me to just leave some shit behind. I always feel like I need to take every single thing that drops back to my base.

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Decided to build a portal hub on top of this gigantic mountain. The peak is just above the cloud line which makes for a really cool view like you are in some isolated pocket dimension in the sky.

The lengths you need to go to to build stuff like this puts some puzzle games to shame I swear to god.

>>2957715
I am the same way. The thing is, I do always eventually find a use for what I pick up later, so it's almost always worth doing.

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>>2957725
I tried to bury a Moder egg node that ended up being right in the middle of the peak but I couldn't and it would keep spawning eggs anyways so I decided to make it the centerpiece.

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>>2957732
Also took a while to figure out how I wanted the arches to look.

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>>2957737
The double arches and the dragon egg centerpiece really ended up coming together.

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>>2957743
This is the visual effect of being above the cloud line. It's like you are in another realm.

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>>2957750
The only thing I'm not quite satisfied with is the featureless face of the cylindrical part prior to the arches. But now that I'm done hauling the materials up there to build the thing nobody should really be seeing it from the outside very often anyways.

>>2957725
>>2957755
very cool.

>>2957755
ditto, you have a very cool hub

so if you set the combat to hard, that makes enemies deal 150% damage.
enemy levels also increase their damage by 50%, so a 1-star enemy would deal 150% damage.
so how do these interact? a 1-star enemy on hard, additive (200%) or multiplicative (225%)?

>>2957850
I think it's multiplicative

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This shit right here is exactly why I can't dismiss Valheim completely.
Despite all of its tedious flaw, they really fucking nailed the ambiance. Having to walk back home through this makes for such a cool experience.

>>2957871
Agreed
What resolution scale is that? Post a screenshot of your graphics settings pls

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>>2957875
Potato gaming so I've set it up to run like a PS1 game. I could probably up those but I don't want it to use more than 40% CPU / GPU, besides more resolution is pointless to me considering how they've modeled their game assets.

>>2957871
>1600x900
grim

>>2957900
That's just the UI resolution. He's on 800x450

>died 5 times in a row in an area
>save and log off
>change world modifier
>suddenly world save is from 5 hours ago with only older backups
>can see character backups from 5 minutes ago
Fuck I got double owned.

seething enough to double post
man fuck this game literally unplayable
even if I use console for items it won't bring my structures back. a couple days of play gone to a bug or something

>>2958023
You have converted to local saves so you can freely backup and restore game states from weeks ago right anon?

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sigh

oh and my deep north base still has its terrain bugged, lovely. wont bother building shit here.

do i get this right?
end game content is gacha armors with a chance of destroying it in the process?

>>2958054
No, that's gacha for all Tiers with the forge of potential.

Weapons and spells are fine, armor just have dogshit drop rates.>>2958034

>>2958033
nope, but actually had a similar problem when i hit that convert to local button on a previous save but I was only in meadows at the time and started over.
save just gets overwritten somehow and it is truly over.

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>* Add toggle to Gameplay settings to skip the intro cinematic on startup
Finally.

>* When attacking, the player’s rotation now also snaps towards the intended attack direction when the “attack towards look direction” option is enabled, not just when it’s disabled.
What the fuck does this mean?

>>2958137
They worded it so obtusely

>>2958137
>>2958173
if you hold block and go forward and spam adadadad the animation gets fucked
i suppose that was a fix for that

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I just spent hours building what I thought was going to be my swamp base only to discover there's barely any swamp at all...

>>2958221
did you not take more than 5 steps into the swamp to realize you have 3 different biomes on 1 screen?

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how well do wolves swim? found a 2 star and im probably just going to paddle with them to my island instead of risking boat fuckery

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>>2957755
Looks awesome! The drake nest looks great, glad you kept it in. Always fun to see cool builds utilizing the natural elements of the game. I always love using dragon eggs in my base decorations A suggestion: put your portals on the two interior rings, then build a balcony overlooking the mountain along the exterior ring. It will help break up the featurlessness you're unsatisfied with, and you'll get a better view of that other-worldly, snowy haze look

>>2956933
>yes map, no portals
lots of fun early on, falls apart later in the game
like probably after Moder, but especially once you hit Ashlands
better for multiplayer when you have a meadows base you all return to.
>no map, yes portals
a fun puzzle adventure, testing your mapping skills, without loss of convenience
>no map, no portals
kino solo adventure experience
Eventually you can't return to your old base, you've outgrown it, so you pack your ship to move on, but you don't have room for everything, you take what you really need, leave behind the rest.
Sometimes you get to return to your old place and reminisce. Sailing in fog or a storm is dangerous if you don't hug the coast, since you might lose track of where you are.
It is surprisingly easy to get lost.
probably impractical for multiplayer unless playing with no item drops on death or having a server run for months where you treat it more like minecraft incentivising building towns(huge potential)

>>2958307
they can't drown but they're about as fast as a boar when swimming desu
don't forget your pungent pebbles

>>2958307
As someone who tried this in the past, don't sail with only that one wolf. Tame him where you found him, tame a second one as well, secure their taming box, and sail away with their offsprings. And for the love of God don't let them follow you swimming behind your boat, build a platform and trick them/push them into the boat. Oh and sail at daytime and away from the shores. You don't want them to aggro a sea serpent or a leech swimming next to the swamp shore and watch your wolves jump off the boat and into their deaths.

Seriously, we need to be able to pick up wolf pups as items, transporting them sucks ass.

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Ok, im about to start building a port, and farm-building (in two different locations). Any tips for that?

Also - is there a trick to finding those ice caves? Its so hard to find them, and they're so rare. I feel like im missing 50% of them just because i dont look from the bottom, and search for them from the top.

Also tamed my first 2* boar. It was the first 2* boar i met since started playing the game.

Also i want to CAPTURE a 2* boar. Somehow.

Also - do serpents have stars? Or ice golems?

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>>2958665
build port in a storm, enclose farms for bat event
just get lucky with caves
serpents cant be starred, and I dont think golems can either because that would be horrifying

>>2958665
>im about to start building a port, and farm-building (in two different locations). Any tips for that?
For the port, make sure the dock terminates either at the same level or lower than the ship's deck so that you can reach the cargo hold from the dock. Also, make sure it's an ambidextrous dock; you can easily pull up into it, coming from both north & south, or east & west.

For the farm, assuming it's just for crops, you should put it completely out of render distance connected via portal, so that it doesn't get destroyed by greynigs or other mobs attacking it. The crops check how much time has passed every time they're loaded in, so teleporting there after like an hour, they'll all initiate their check and they'll all grow at once. However, this isn't how taming things works, the mobs actually have to be loaded in to progress their taming meter. Crops need an open sky, farm animals don't and should be enclosed to remain safe from things like bat and drake raids.
>is there a trick to finding those ice caves?
If you check your map, they tend to generate on the grey stone sections of the mountain, not the white snowy sections. There's also a console command that I can't recall rn that you can put in that will tell you if there's a dungeon nearby, which you can abuse.
>Also tamed my first 2* boar
Nice, you can breed it with normal boar until an offspring inherits being 2*, then breed that one with the parent to produce nothing but 2* boars.
>Also i want to CAPTURE a 2* boar. Somehow.
I'm not sure what you mean by this; a wild one? For what purpose? I guess you could... lure it all the way back to your base, contain it, then keep a fire source nearby so it's in a constant state of panic and won't try to bust out when it detects you?
>do serpents have stars? Or ice golems?
No, neither have a starred variant.

where server?
>>2958665
i've yet to encounter a starred serpent and golem so probably no

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MORE PATCH NOTES

>* Increased drop chance for Deep North Armor moulds by making both Jotun Warrior types drop both medium and heavy armor moulds
I have literally spent the past ~4 hours trying to get my pants...

>>2958054
>end game content
I thought the game ended when you killed the last boss.

>check past patch notes
>>"made bjorn less common in black forests"
>bjorn = bear
why would they make these fuckers even more rare, when trying to get a trophy from them for the bear set's hat is already a gigantic pain in the ass?
>>2958720
>build port in a storm
Why?

>>2958137
did the rolling log kill you?
sometimes your character would be looking sideways while swinging towards the crosshair, so hopefully it fixed that inconsistent behavior.

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Also, just realistically speaking - how valuable is it to bother with digging underground thingies? Like, i have a boner, and it signals me in the meadows that there's something underground. I know its something "valuable". But should i bother with it, or its just 45 gold and 2 pearls?

>>2958720
>that would be horrifying
I still expect something more problematic in the sea than a glowy snake.

>>2958762
>Also, make sure it's an ambidextrous dock; you can easily pull up into it, coming from both north & south, or east & west.
That sounds tricky.

>The crops check how much time has passed every time they're loaded in, so teleporting there after like an hour, they'll all initiate their check and they'll all grow at once
That's good to know. Also that "not enough space to grow" means "i wont grow" or its just slower? If slower - then i dont care.

>>Also i want to CAPTURE a 2* boar. Somehow.
>I'm not sure what you mean by this; a wild one?
I mistyped. I meant 2* bear. Just for entertainment purposes.
My bad.

>>2958765
I've never encountered 1*-2* obamanation too. But i expect to, one day.

>>2958787
>>build port in a storm
>Why?
I suppose its easier to build when water is out?

Also would be nice to have a mod that tells you what exactly x-lvl of your stat does. Like, lets say farming lvl 50 gives you +35% for bonus crops, and so on. Numerical value. Not just vague "increases".

Also

>>2958762
>Nice, you can breed it with normal boar until an offspring inherits being 2*, then breed that one with the parent to produce nothing but 2* boars.
That's very good to know. I was just trying to find second 2*, instead of taming the normie one.

whats with the tranime infestation

>>2958793
>did the rolling log kill you?
Only the greynigger.

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Equals.

>5 hotfix patches and my base terrain is STILL fucked and unusable

>>2958787
>why would they make these fuckers even more rare,
Good, too many bears ruin the vibe of the black forest.
Imo they just shouldn't spawn at all in black forests close to spawn.
Black Forests appear 500-8000 meters from spawn, bears should only appear like 2500-8000 meters from spawn.

>>2958765
>where server?
I'm not starting one, but curious, what settings would you guys prefer?

I would be happy with standard.
1.5x or 3x drop rates preferred.
Combat normal, but I'm fine with increasing it.
Death loss standard.
Portal and map standard, but if people were genuinely up for it I think no map with be a blast, even no map no portal.
No QoL mods, serverside character and maybe biome lock if we'd want to rein in progression, someone talked about like unlocking next biome on a weekly basis.
https://thunderstore.io/c/valheim/p/shudnal/BiomeGate/
https://old.thunderstore.io/c/valheim/p/Radamanto/BiomeLock/
So like you don't join for a chill /vm/ adventure on sunday, then when you're at work the following days people sequence break silver and are sailing towards ashlands before you see a carve.

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Huh, i had no idea silver can generate exposed.

>>2958833
Well i dont know what kind of IMAGEs you want me to post on the IMAGEboard. I just attach images for the sake of not having an empty post. Not sure why you got so upset about that.

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paddlin

>>2959056
I dont understand how y'all finding 2*. Is there a bonus chance depending on how far from center you are? Or what?

>>2959075
I think so, also higher combat setting increases chance of stars.

>>2959075
2 star wolves only spawn at night, that could be something that you're missing

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>>2959075
>>2959083
2* have higher chance of spawning at night

>>2958973
I use https://old.thunderstore.io/c/valheim/p/mtsukn/True1_5x/ to prevent all single drops from always rounding to 2x.

>>2959105
intredasting

>>2959075
1% of all wolves (all creatures really) will be 2 star
they only spawn at night
they try their absolute hardest to escape when day count appears to signal "daytime" to disappear
they WILL NOT eat any food for taming and if you havent started taming them as the sun comes up then you must stand there and wait for night

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>>2958833
Anime website you nigger faggot.

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I like that Trolls can kill Fulings

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>tfw swamp becomes so much more reasonable with level 3 bronze buckler, abyssal razor, and the root chest maxed out
Pierce resist is like some mandatory magical non-sense and I have no idea why.

>>2959237
arrows stop doing damage

>>2959237
>Pierce resist is like some mandatory magical non-sense and I have no idea why.
it's like BiS until ashlands

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well, fuck.

>>2959275
...does this works on abominations?

Is there some kind of condition for using the shops or something, like a time of day?
I'm at Hildir and I'm only getting the option to talk.
I've bought stuff from her before, and returned two of her chests.

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>>2958833
>wtf why is there anime on the anime website
Go back you dumb nigger

>>2959353
reload your game.

>>2959362
Thanks.

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>tfw I unironically got my Karve flipped over after making landfall on the chitin rock out in the ocean
Guess I'll just die, die.

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>>2958973
1.5x drop so we don't go crazy carrying iron all over the map and with how many of us are going to play.
>mods
can't be assed.

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>>2958833
>why are braindamaged retards doing braindamaged retard things?
What do you want them to do? NOT post their "waifu" that has absolutely nothing to do with the topic? Outrageous.

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Finally reached the Ashlands and it already feels better than playing on the Mistlands, no faggot bugs backstabbing you out of nowhere and the grappling hook is 10x times more useful. The biome definitely looks and feels more dangerous but I feel less stressed on it.

>>2959698
ohh you find the hook in mistlands
dang

guess I need to find newly generated infested mines then

>>2959353
Same problem. Had to restart because of this shit.

>>2959708
I found it in an abandoned not-dwarf tower ruins, if your world was created pre 1.0 you need to explore an unloaded mistlands for the loot to spawn a hook.

>>2959698
how did you manage the landing? fucking tried doing one a month ago and swarmed and got killed by a 2 star warrior

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What the fuck is this?

>>2959789
sick

>>2959765
the spot where i docked had very few land mobs and i quickly stored the boat in a chest before placing a portal and the shield.
Also its very easy to repair the boat using the sea spires to place a workbench since the faggot vultures do extra damage to it and the bonemaws attack non-stop.

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May be a dumb question but...

...when i craft x5 of something (food) (via hotkey) - do each of those 5 things pass the "bonus yields" check separately? Or its one check on all 5?

>>2960018
It’s been tested and doing 1x will yield more bonus.

>>2960038
Devs should be skinned alive.

>>2959280
you're not an abomination.

>>2959789
A rare swamp mob that was added in 1.0. Its item lets you craft Plains tier light armor and a base item called "Bird Nest" that generates feathers, similar to how the bee hives produce honey. Think they're kind of rare because I've only found one so far, but haven't exactly been hunting for them

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Blizzards make me yearn for a good survival game with good temperature mechanics.
It's cozy surviving harsh elements.

>>2960477
Icarus has a temperature bar but the game itself is shit

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damn
I overestimated how much time I had left before nightfall.
I one shot a serpent and decided to loot it, thought I was quick. Should stopped earlier somewhere for a safe spot to sleep.

>that spooky meadows variant filled with 1 billion small growing thin trees and pointy rocks
I don't know if the draugyr present were there by default but it sure was neat.

>>2960762
Biomes have variants now?

>>2960773
>he doesn't know

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>>2960773
Yes.

Also my hildir spawned nearly on top of this occupied village, cheeky fuck.

>>2960855
I don't! But kinda suspected. All I've seen so far is a meadows that looked like it had more birch trees than usual, but I haven't taken a closer look (was sailing by mapping out coastlines, interior exploration is for later).

>>2960773
kind of.
https://valheim.weirdgloop.org/w/Meadows#Alternative_biomes

I feel so unlucky with fog today

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god i hekkin love the asslands

>>2960477
dayZ namalsk is a vibe, two strangers who would never trust each other will be best friends for a fire

When I first played this game when it came out in early access I remember there being a mod that made portal travel faster (something about how portals by default had a set timer instead of just loading as fast as possible, some bullshit like that). Is there a mod like that currently? All I'm seeing on the nexus is stuff like multi-linked portals.

>>2961367
I use this
https://old.thunderstore.io/c/valheim/p/Muindor/QuickTeleport/
Yes, the game has fixed loading times for both portals and dungeons, technically dungeons don't even have to "load" because all their assets are loaded together with the biomes so the transition screen is merely cosmetic.
Portals have a fixed 8 second load plus whatever slow your PC is.

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>find I finally got the gist on how to play
>start a new world because my old one had some weird terrain generation
>explore
What the hell is this?
And the rivers sit at the bottom of huge ravines to make trickier to move around.

>>2961421
whole world wont be like that but you have great potential for prime base spots

>>2961421
>the rivers sit at the bottom of huge ravines
Oden wants you to build bridges.

>>2961421
Thats not bad. Probably a lot of tin nearby.
I didnt think the shrine could spawn that close to the shore. Must look nice having the ocean in view of it.

>>2961417
It doesn't seem much faster to me, if at all. I think I installed it correctly (the mod manager at least, and the BepInExPack), but portals are still around 8-10 seconds (4080 Super and Ryzen 7 9800).

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>>2958804
In the meadows, the chests that get signaled by the wishbone only ever have money, and maybe a wooden training knife/axe. Not really worth digging them up desu, since you get enough money from doing dungeons and progressing normally

>That sounds tricky [making a symmetrical dock]
It's really not, you just make sure that you can pull into or up to it from either direction along the coast. All this means is that the dock shouldn't have obstacles on either side, and that it should be somewhat symmetrical. Imagine it shaped somewhat like the dock in the attached image:
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>"not enough space to grow" means "i wont grow"
This. The crop will say that for a short period of time, in which you can try and give it more room by removing any rocks or walls or stumps it may have been planted too close to, after which it will despawn if its surroundings don't change

>2* bear
Good luck, those only spawn pretty far out from the world center. Generally the further out you go from spawn, the higher the chances of mobs gaining stars

>1*-2* abomination
Those don't get stars either, oddly enough

>what exactly x-lvl of your stat does
The wiki (the weird gloop wiki, not the fandom wiki) explains it with charts and graphs, but generally speaking, getting ~20 levels in a skill means you're getting ~50% more than you would at 0 skill level. So if you're doing ~30 damage with an axe at skill level 0, at skill level 20, you'd be doing ~45 damage with your axe

>>2961579
ewww mainland base

>>2958929
>Too many bears ruin the vibe
There were never too many bears, you had to go out looking for them for 20 minutes to even find any.
>They shouldn't spawn at all in black forests close to spawn
...Why? They're deathly afraid of fire, something available to the player from the start via torches and campfire, so it's not like they're too strong. You might as well make the same argument for trolls since they're so much more destructive.

>>2961583
The game has a spawn rule
If youre looking for something it will never spawn
If you dont want it to spawn there will be 20 of them next to your base.

>>2961557
Did it load correctly? check your logs, the mod was updated to work with 1.0 and is currently working for me on the latest version.

\Valheim\BepInEx\LogOutput.log

Also, 95% of your load times comes from the HDD/SDD speed but still 10 seconds sounds like the mod didn't work at all. It is extremely noticeable when entering a instanced area (like a cave) because there is no transition at all, it's like stepping into an invisible wall without any load.

>>2959200
miku dayo
>>2960276
you can also make a root shield with its drops and abom drops
>>2961213
holding a torch makes the voltures fuck off a bit
>>2961581
>ewww mainland base
elaborate

>>2961583
>...Why? They're deathly afraid of fire, something available to the player from the start via torches and campfire, so it's not like they're too strong. You might as well make the same argument for trolls since they're so much more destructive.
Trolls look sick and daunting when you're new as they tower over terrain..
Bears don't inspire that same awe, it's just an animal stealing the thunder of trolls.

>>2961593
>It is extremely noticeable when entering a instanced area (like a cave)
That part is working fine, no load times at all. But if I use a portal to go from one landmass to another I still get at least 10 or so seconds of load time.

>>2961599
>elaborate
you can completely spawnproof an island and invasions wont fuck with you unless its bats, very lovely

so storms cause high waves? are the waves based on the original altitude or ending altitude if you were to lower/raise a piece of land?

>>2961698
wave height increases dramatically once you get to shore and beyond, digging to sea level far inland will have almost no effect on the water pooling but a basement on an island base is in trouble

>>2961611
ok so no actual reason then
>>2961623
that masterpiece of a drawing is on an island, the rest of it is just out of frame
>>2961698
yeah
uh, waves are based on sea level and they go up

>>2961698
storms cause high waves, except for in the swamp
the waves are not based on the land at all, they're base on the water level that runs under the whole map. that said, the further inland you go, the less effect you will see on the water table. really once you go further inland than the beach, the waves shouldn't be an issue

>>2961702
>>2961757
I want to colonize a meadows island that is ~50 stamina off the main land so I wanted to clarify what kind of terraforming needed to be done to stay dry.

>>2959275
I wonder if having a log roll into you counts or only falling after first cut, I don't see why it wouldn't since it seems like the same damage type just different momentum?

>>2961599
Im using the iron banded shield, is it worth swapping to the root shield? I only have enough of it's bones to make one more thing so haven't decided on what.

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>>2961800
I raised my whole island up so nothing fucks with me, including waves

>>2961823
that's a big island. I don't think mine is that big.

>>2961814
if you haven't made a bird nest yet, make one of those so you always have a supply of feathers for arrows and crossbow bolts

Do we know the idol chance yet?
It took me 4 mistwalkers to get it to upgrade.