Anniversary Edition>14.1 hotfix patch notes:https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/436-hotfix-14-1>Update 14.0 patch notes:https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/428-%E2%80%8Bpatch-notes-14-0>August Community updatehttps://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/445-august-community-update>Year 3 Roadmap:https://i.imgur.com/IXgkSO8.jpeg>Where to get the game:https://www.focus-entmt.com/en/games/warhammer-40000-space-marine-2>Lore Stuff:https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Pagehttps://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Main_Page>For jolly cooperation with your battle brothers (Can also post codes for jolly coop/PvP. Edit Squad -> Invite Menu):https://steamcommunity.com/groups/sm2general>Workaround with matchmaking (not finding players, only 2/3):Back out to the main menu and re-enter battle barge.>Workaround with matchmaking (defaults to waiting for players instead of looking for games)Queue for siege mode, leave the lobby and re-queue for operations.>Datasheet with hidden difficulty modifiers at each difficulty (for easier damage reference):https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1kVvYgDBoAan98W3IjAM6ERdq-QfkCsaVvXKF5g_Q9sU/htmlview>Usefu toolsl for damage calculation:https://sm2meleecalc.us/https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HzX5LzOD8NZyOTV-BUyL8kWoLEpt-skM/>Guide on PvE mode, explanations and tactics:https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Warhammer_40,000:_Space_Marine_II/Tactics/Operations_Mode>Recommended prestige perks:https://i.imgur.com/vHSeEDt.jpeg>/sm2g/ Dude Wall - Compilation of Dudes:https://dudewall.github.io/dude-wall/>/sm2g/ Phantom Links Chapter Lore:https://rentry.org/ChroniclesofPhantomLinks>Link repositories (WIP):https://pastebin.com/VZ0ryCNB - mission scriptsPreviously on the Battle-Barge: >>2913303
>>3005616I was half-expecting a lone frame with a druid or something
where is it
Second quality thread in a row. I'm impressed.
So, whats tactical status with the rework ?
>>3005765Emperor's Vengeance reigns supreme
>use one of the new melee weapons for tactical>lose your main ranged weapon>pick the new perk that gives you a bolter as secondary>???>profit!Am i doing this right ?
Summary of everything dropping tomorrow>Cosmetic Additions & ChangesSpace Wolves Bulwark ChampionExorcist Cosmetic PackLamenters Veteran (Crucible)MKVI Corvus Right ShoulderBlack Templar Up-Armored ShoulderAssault Iron HaloVictrix Guard Shield (Twitch)3rd Wargear SlotColorable CapesAssault, Vanguard & Heavy TabardsVanguard & Heavy Robes>WeaponsOne-Handed Thunder HammerHeroic One-Handed Thunder HammerHeroic Power AxeHeroic Auto Bolt Rifle>Game Modes, Modifiers & ChangesChaos SiegeCrucible ModeTactical Rework
>>3005816>Lamenters Veteran (Crucible)Lamenters bros, we're fucking BACK.
>>3005816I wonder if they remove things like the skulls dangling between heavy’s legs if you put on robes or tabards? Because if they don’t that would probably look like shit with all the clipping.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXooktNzxhI
>>3004927I was random queuing but my setting was Average difficulty, will it still chuck my ass into Lethal?
How many bings and bongs until the update?
>>3005907Literally another 24 hours.
>>3005907Thursday morning
>>3005868Is it normal to survive a xenophase weapon through the chest?
>>300590711 AM CEST
>>3005634Yeah, sorry I didn't include any easter eggs in there but I was very short on time Brother.
Much as I love new content drop I shudder to think what will get broken in the next 24 hours. Matchmaking, loadouts, saved presets?
>>3005816A depressing reminder that the Frost Axe and Power Maul are balanced.
>>3006244Helmet off? Some Neosporin® will patch it up overnight
>>30062442 hearts and 3 lungsmore concerning is the spine shot
>>3005824>complete 9001 penances, progress: 0/9001no, you're not.
>>3006368Nothing a few rites of injection can't fix, Brother.
NTA but also some stuff from that Dev Q&A>More knee decals in general>More Dark Angels stuff>"Some" improvements to UI like more noticeable elements of watching your teammates health/armor. No ammo indicator though>Assists will count as kills for Ultragrinds>The two operations that are planned for Year 3 will have brand new end-bosses>New Extremis enemies confirmed but "not what we'd expect">Heavy's rework will be around the Iron Halo>Apothecary's armor class is Gravis>Assault is getting his own set of halos>Bulwark will eventually get customizable banners>Techmarine isn't going to get more customization for the right pauldron>Text chat for Consolebabs coming>Acheran and Chairon will get memorialized, somehow>Loading screens will get shortened with "optimizations" but there are no plans to add tips to them, you'll still be staring at nothing
*misses Season 3 DLC despite being the most popular non-First Founding chapter ever
>>3006452It's so weird seeing how different the aesthetic looks between a DoW1 Force Commander and the DoW2 one when considering what potential armor pieces from the Blood Ravens could be implemented. At the very least they could give more Phobos gear since Cyrus is front and center as the applicable Blood Ravens rep.
>>3006447>Techmarine isn't going to get more customization for the right pauldronThis is baffling to me.
>>3006499Muh Mechancius
>>3006499brother, we still can't have a normal arm except the inquisition rosary one.
>>3006622>a normal armFlesh is weak!
>a fucking leather glove
With Saber's definition of buffs it can't be more than 20%.
>>3006824They confirmed Melta damage is getting buffed by 65%.Now a lot of people are going to poopoo a Melta Rifle still taking 4 shots to incap a Majoris, but considering how wide the cone is, and you're going to be shitting on a fuckton of Minoris in the same blast, that's actually really REALLY good.
>>3006824Thats surprising because a lot of weapons are alright now. Wonder if it will be mostly melee weapons they buff, they are the ones in the biggest need of help.
why did the other chaos relic skins come as random model bits and upgrades then the world eater vanguard skin is a halfassed temu kharn the betrayer with a shittier helmet and no tassets
>>3006824>auspex buffs the tactical while being an outright hindrance to teammates not sharing his attack methodslowly I began to hate them even more than I already hated slavs
>>3006895>while being an outright hindrance to teammates not sharing his attack methodin what way, do you get annoyed at the yellow highlights or something?
>>3006895You still get a boost to your overall damage, it's just not as high if he picks the ranged focus. Which should always be your main option desu.
>opening stage cutscenes crash my shit (and no fixes have worked) so have to find in-progress>people arsing around on the dock for several queues (x3 loading screens each)
>>3007007>queue up>nigger tactical has chosen melee because he wants to level the hammer while playing the devs and his favorite class>his auspex is now worse for two shooters than if he had an unperked auspex so his own melee damage can be betteryeah i can't wait
>>3007739I don't think you understand how auspex works
>>3007983how am I wrong, nigger>unperked auspex causes X bonus damage >perked auspex causes it to favor heavily ranged OR melee, for example 2x ranged and 0.5x melee>a perked auspex is likely worse than unperked if your teammates arent the right damage type
Imagine a retarded Tact bringing in a Melee Auspex on a Heldrake
How many bings and bongs until the update? Why the fuck aren't they following ET/PT/UTC?
>>3008174Patch is in exactly 7 hours for me.
>>30081744am US Central.
>>3008145Maybe i'm retarded, but i think it works like this :If you melee perk auspex, you do 2x melee damage, but only 1,5x ranged damage, and vice versa. I made up the numbers but you get the idea.At least, if the devs are sane, this is how it should work.
7 minutes
Update downloaded. Let the crusade begin anew Brothers!
it's live get the fuck in
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>>3008894Anon, why are you still on HDD?
There are Twitch drops.https://www.twitch.tv/firsttourguardsman
If only they'd make such nice changes to the chaos faction too
Cosmetics are finally going in the direction they should've gone long ago. Here's hoping they learned they're lesson and SM3 will have all the best elements of SM2 and more.
Yep, so the playerbase is split even more.
>>3008894
>>3008896I'm on a Samshit 990 Pro 4TB
>>3008907I'll just seek the help of Leman Russ
>Added the Unhelmed Salamander Helm and Salamander Voice to the Chapter Voice Pack 1 DLC.New voice, only one the finished on the cancelled second pack. So sadly no Raven Guard of White Scars voice.
>>3008912Hmm, odd, mine got patched withn 40 secondst. a-data owner
Any Aus cunts on?
>>3008906I'm still a bit miffed they didn't bring tabards+capes to Bulwark with this patch. But on the flipside he will still get extensive bump to his bling options (capes, tabards, switching banners).Can't wait.
>>3008907oh boy, do crucible missions track as absolute for the purpose of capegrinding?
Pattern system is completely broken for all "extra" parts like shields, tabards etc. You can't color any of them.
Streamer has to gift a sub for Victrix Shield holy shit
>>3008946They will make the shield purchasable in doritos shop after long time. Probably.
>they've added colouring support for more cloth pieces>and made the cloth colour be selected from the wargear itself instead of being a torso colourRead as: They messed up and now no cloth can be recoloured
Well, at least they let you gunstrike when you equip second primary on Tactical. You just pull the sidearm out of your ass and it works the same as if it's equipped in the slot.
I'm doing over 300 damage with gun strike on tac wtf
Okay, so word of advice, if you had a nice "works for every class" paint design, you're gonna have to stop using it. Instead assign the pattern to every class individually, because the crossover of parts is now breaking the shit out of it between classes.
>>3008957Nta, but another bug (?) is that you can only equip Crusade Ancient pauldron on left shoulder.
>>3008986not a bug, they just forgot to make a mirrored copy. They make every one manually because of text and shit.
>>3008900>Purchase 1 new recurring or gift subscription and claim the reward Victrix Guard ShieldGrim(dark)
>>3008986I think that's intentional, since the marshal model the pauldron is based on only has it on one shoulder.Also, there's a backpack pattern that the game keeps pinging as new, but when checking the backpack options (even on chaos customization) there is nothing to mark as seen so the game keeps the annoying ping on the armoury forever. Anyone know how to get rid of it?
Patch notes, Brothers:https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/redirect/461-patch-notes-15-0
>Camo patterns removed from all of Sniper's cloaks>They're all monotone nowHOLYFUCKING ASS
>>3009041You can select whatever camo pattern you want for all cloaks actually
>>3009041??
>>3009048>>3009046oh nvm im dumb lol
Oh my god, what did they do to my tac. Just ran an absolute (not even hard strat) and auspex does nothing.>Secure Stockpile: cooldown is increased from 60 to 90 seconds.LOL
I fucking knew I wasn't crazy.
Alright, I thought last update was lazy, but this update was a real fucking stinker. The cosmetic side immediately saw all my loadouts destroyed. Implementing the new paint regions by separating the tabards and capes meant they forgot to add a paint region to the black templar tabard so you can't paint it. There's also still zero extra wargear for techmarine and now they've made it clear they don't intend for there to be any, not even the heretic one by the looks of it either which cannot have any part made legion specific.The heroics are all balanced and as such no one will want to use them, myself included. However the one heroic that could have been interesting - the auto bolt rifle - is so ass backwards that it makes me wonder if they have a Q/A team at all. Increased base fire rate that decreases under sustained fire. Shouldn't that be the other way around entirely? The heavy bolter is right there, you've done this before. Why should it be the wrong way around?But the real kick in the balls was siege mode. The factions don't change between floors. It's tyranids all the time. The loyalists from what I've seen, are a compulsory objective that take place on round two of every floor and run down the timer without progressing the wave. That's as far as they're involved and it's just a few astartes and some guardsman. The astartes are really cool, don't get me wrong, programmed to behave like pvp sweats, but they're by far the biggest selling point of the mode and yet treated like an afterthought. The guardsman are also poorly designed, requiring 3-hit bodyshot kills and cannot be run over despite having the same physical properties as cultists. The map is also only two floors, not three like the original siege map. And designed in such a way that the waves are noticeably more spread out and run the timer down much harder on top of the mandatory loyalist objectives. They don't test anything. Corners cut at every possible turn.
And then there's the rework for tactical, nonsense that misses the core balancing problem of auspex that aimed to make him a faux-sternguard instead. Why? What was the thought process? "He needs melee options"? Thought process of livestock, fucking retards. It takes them this long to put out an update that modders could undoubtably one-up in a matter of weeks to a higher level of quality. Saber needs to be review bombed for how increasingly lazy and seemingly incompetent they get.
Can't quit to the barge from crucible lobbies so it takes 3 fucking loading screens to requeue.
>>3008920Also Aus cunt is on if you're still around.
Did the Allfather update his CE table?
>>3009304I'm not sure if we can queue up level 2 crucible with a level 1. Anyways, Aus lobby - FR2XB
>>3009335Not yet. Still waiting. The current one detects new TH but none of the functions seem to be working.
>>3009277I assume loyalists have no execution animations.
>>3009360they do actually but for how small their presence in chaos siege is it's wasted effort
Some leaks Brothers.Apothecary model
>>3009376Slightly better quality
Vanguard Deathwatch Champion
The multi-melta is so fucking backThis might be the buggiest patch ever
>Every weapon is getting buffed since Auspex is getting nerfed>5%>10%>5%>7%Bruh.
GG m8, ez sneeds
Enemies still get stuck outside the arena, preventing progress in siege. Do I even want to bother?>>3009467gege
>>3009418It was never gone.
Pretty sure it's impossible to join games in progress in crucible modeIf you have leavers, prepare for a solo run
>>3009385>vanguard deathwatchImagine wasting the deathwatch theme on fucking vanguard
>>3009529He's getting his rework at the same time. They want you hyped to play him,
What the fuck is the 1h hammer's gimmick? You gain charges...when? The "loop" it describes instantly consumes the one charge it generates. What?
>>3009535I'm still not going to play vanguard because >phobos
>tactical neutered completelyglad I've been a heavy main for ages now but holy fuck
>>3009537So it's not just me then? I don't understand the description "gain up to 3 charges" when the only way to gain charges is to not have one stacked in the first place. The second you hit the attack button with one stack, you just attack and spend the charge.
>>3009537None of these new weapons seem good maybe I need to level the hammer and unlock all the perk points but the charge system seems unintuitive
>>3009537There is no fucking way the next light attack after a power loop is meant to be a downward slam that instantly expends all charges. The heavy attack off that combo does the same thing and flows naturally, whereas the light attack is an unnatural swap to a weird animation. This has to be a mistake. Did they not do a test server for this one?
tac is so fucking goodrun melta + bolt rifle + range auspex and you'll rape everything
This patch is underwhelming as fuck
>>3009537You just unga bunga It's Balanced coded
Don't join my games if you're not level 25, prestige 4 and crucible 6
The AoE auspex is awesome even as a true ranged Tactical.
Lmao, what dogshit. The other tier 3 penance is -30% damage for ranges above 20m.
>>3009537Ah, I see>light overheads only consume 1 charge>the only way to go net positive on charges is to either stand there with the no-combo heavy or to do power loops with this specific nodenow we're developing weapons that require you to select the right perks for them to actually function, amazing
>>3009634where the hell is this menu
>>3009634How hard is it if you select all penances?
>>3009644I don't think it's any harder than hard strats with bad modifiers. That said, all your breakpoints are broken because there's so many -damage penances. No one can also join your games mid session to stop abusing bot revives but that's meh.
>>3009643chaplain in the hangar
I tried the new melta + ranged damage auspex + +75% ranged damage hard strat. It is legit worse than old melta + old auspex on parry without the +75% range damage mod.
I forgot to mention that if you take the bolt rifle secondary, it doesn't regen ammo from Emperor's vengeance so it is even worse.
>bolt pistols no buffs>carbine is still literal garbage
Nutty perk.
>>3009704Who is this for?
>>30097111-handed hammer, works with any kills, not just melee.
Double grenade launcher lol>>3009716Lmfao what the FUCK.
>>3009690>I forgot to mention that if you take the bolt rifle secondary, it doesn't regen ammo from Emperor's vengeance so it is even worse.
>>3009728>>3009690Emp's Vengeance has never applied to your secondary? And honestly, good. You want better melee on Tactical? Take the loss of an infinite ammo primary.
>>3009735>you want to make your class bad on purpose? Good.Isn't the whole point of these reworks to make this not the case?
>>3009742You've been so used to being the most overpowered class in the game that your sense of balance is out of whack.
>we CAN'T let your weapons be strong because tactical's very small window of 3x damage is TOO STRONG>*guts it completely*>finally, we can buff your boltguns by between 5 and 10 percent :)
Man these slavs are SO FUCKING RETARDED
So is it only the Veteran Lamenters armor for the Crucible point stuff? Is it a whole set for sale or do you have to buy pieces individually?
>unbelievably spongy marines just that stare you down while tossing kraks and charged plasma and las sniper shots at you with no attack indicators>guardsmen are just bullet sponge cultists that you can't run over>they show up as a pre-wave one time per arena>no extremis or terminus enemies>cultist reinforce teleport hurts you>also all the chaos siege heretic marine voice actors are different and worse and don't even try to sound like the original class voicesCan't believe I had any hopes for this update, fucking saber you fucking hacks, years just for this trash. This is genuinely even worse than fighting marines in SM1 exterminatus mode and hostile AI marines were the worst part of the entire game.
>>3009748That's 5 and 10 percent per shot, you fucking mongoloid. Every time I hear someone complain about balance in this game it's from someone who has no fucking idea what they're talking about
>Tactical mains insisting the class is useless now (Auspex still deletes 50% of a boss' health)
>>3009766>That's 5 and 10 percent per shotNo shit. Did you honestly feel clever while typing this out?
>>3009783You are retarded. Please kill yourself
>>3009778Same mongoloids that think being able to apply base auspex on a parry to any enemy was bad. Tac was and still is the crutch class.
>>3009766instead of 50 shots it takes...48 shots
>>3009810You not being able to aim is not anyone else's problem
>>3009791Nigger you just restated "that 5-10% increase is actually a 5-10% increase!" like it was a revelation. You're a pseud and a retard.
>>3009801Bad because it was competing with a ridiculous synergy in that slot. You never figuring that out shows why you have no clue how nerfed tactical just got.
>>3009822I'm not the one complaining that I can't deal damage. Maybe you should stick to Cocomelon
I'm not grinding the new minigame, I'll just Cheat Engine my ranksMy 1Hammer is already at purple tier, will keep grinding until gold is maxed out
>>3009820If I need to do 500 damage with a weapon that does 10 damage per shot, that's 50 shots.If the weapon's damage per shot is increased by 5%, it now does 10.5 damage, which means it does 500 damage in 48 shots.
>>3009829>I want to one shot everything all the timeYou are spiritually Chinese
>>3009846Okay now apply the 50 other damage boosting perks
>>3009854Then the additional 5% you just gave to the weapon becomes such a small part of the damage that it is no longer a noticeable factor, it probably doesn't even change how many shots it takes to reach a damage threshold at that point.
>>3009866Do you understand how exponential buildup works or are you just being retarded on purpose
power maul is fucking dogshit
>>3009841>>3009849and now he's going to strawman all day because he can't handle losing an argumentholy pseud
>>3009879And a ching chong wing wong to you
The real question is did the auspex change do anything to the heroic stalker's auspex buff
Already need to run 6 games to go from penance level 3 > 4, and the penance levels don't transfer between classes. I cannot imagine how bad level 4 > 6 is.
>>3009882I hope for you're sake you're like 12 and you're going to grow up and get smarter at some point.
>>3009896I hope for your sake you learn how to play the game
>>3009871Do you understand how meaningless 5% more damage per shot is or are you just being a retard on purpose? It's not even going to cut down the number of shots my stalker needs to kill a warrior.
>>3009907>5% base damage increase>+20% headshot multiplier (of base damage)>plus base weapon headshot multiplier (of base damage)>plus consecutive headshot multiplier (of base damage)You are genuinely too stupid to be alive
Reminder that not a single secondary got a buff this patch
Why's there so much complaining? Guns feel pretty good now. They just need to buff heavy guns and dogshit melee weapons next
>>3009766>Your DPS is 100/s>It is not 105/s>iT's PeR sHoT tHo
>>3009931Learn how to do math before commenting
Tac is fine and all of you babies whining just suck at the game
>>3009917My stalker does 40 base damage, with those buffs it does 59, so that's a 47.5% increase. 458 divided by 59 is 7.7, that's 8 shots to kill a warrior.Increasing the 40 base damage by 5% puts it at 42 base damage, increasing that by 47.5% gets it to 62 damage per shot. 458 divided by 62 is 7.3, that's 8 shots to kill a warrior.
>>30099511) This whole conversation didn't start with a complaint about tactical, but a complaint about Saber arguing that nothing can be buffed because tactical is too strong, and then once he was nerfed to their tastes the buffs were wet farts.2) You're a stupid nigger and should kill yourself.
>>3009930Guns felt fine before. I had zero issues killing anything even without auspex.
>>3009956>Saber subscribes to Arrowhead brand balancingoof
>>3009960The bad ones felt like shit in hard strat desu
>>3009960There are people in here who genuinely make out guns not on Tactical were unusuable. You've got shitters in here who cry and piss their pants that the hypothetical unlimited ammo Heroic Bolt Sniper punishes them for missing.
>>3009955Okay, so it doesn't hit your specific breakpoint, who gives a fuck? Use Aligned Aim if you're so fucking bad at landing shots. The point is 5% base damage increase isn't an insignificant amount
>>3009956The only retard here is you complaining about nerfs when hes still just as good. Yeah the buffs are whatever but if tac is still good then what the fuck does it even matter? You're still going to be deleting enemies regardless.
>>3009960yeah this feels great
Encountered the Terminator Sorcerer in Normal Disruption weekly, holy fuck he's broken as hell.This boss doesn't belong in Space Marine 2 or 40k in general.
>>3009984That took 4 seconds from first shot to execution. Literally what are you complaining about
>>3009983>QUIT COMPLAINING ABOUT THE TACTICAL NERFS>I'm not complaining about the tactical nerfs, I'm complaining that Saber made a big point out of saying Tactical was fucking the balance of the game with something like a 375% damage modifier, and then once they removed that they did fuck all.>OKAY SURE I AGREE, BUT YOU'RE A RETARD FOR COMPLAINING ABOUT THE TACTICAL NERFS
>>3009977>The point is 5% base damage increase isn't an insignificant amountI just walked you through the math and proved that 5% is objectively insignificant. Your backpedaling doesn't change reality.
>>3010004You literally proved the opposite but okay.
>>3010007there is no fucking way you're this stupid
>>3009994>it takes 4 seconds straight of lazering a stationary isolated warrior's head to put it into execute>this consumes half of the magazine>non-headshots are effectively misses because they do no damage>the shots have zero stagger either way and only execute interrupts whatever it's doing>this feels great according to anon
So what's next? They going to come for the power fist? There's still no point in equipping any other melee weapon on bulwark or assault. The new 1h hammer is a fucking embarrassment compared to any of the fists.
What a time to be alive where Darktide finally buffs the Zealot's Thunder Hammer and gives the Ogryn a bigass hammer that's also good while the 1H Thunder Hammer fucking sucks balls here.How quickly did they buff the Power Axe after it came out again? I want to see if the hotfix to save this weapon will come out within the week or something.
>>3010007A 5% buff makes literally no difference in the number of shots it takes for the stalker to kill a warrior. That means the buff has no significance.
>>30100261h hammer is the worst melee in the game.
>>3010026And they even buffed the melta fist too.Still garbage but still.
I can now rest Brothers but before that 1H TH needs quick leveling and crucible's gotta get maxed out too
Yeah, I am turning this penance off. It doesn't even work like the hard strat where it clears at the boss fights. Symbols don't even show up on the consoles. As usual, 0 testing of this patch.
>1h hammer>much slower light attacks than any other melee>can't spam or even easily access its heavy attacks>light into power charge into heavy deals 20 damage>light into power charge into light deals 30 damage>still does less damage than all of themwhat the actual fuck is going on with this weapon, please tell me it's bugged
>>3010032Sure thing little buddy
>>3010053>they delayed the greatsword for thisIt's not even fun to use no combos or anything with it
>>3010024Auto bolter is for minoris clearing, if you want to kill majoris, you have literally 5 other bolters to choose from
>>3010053Saber vibecodes everything and they fucking suck at it.
>>3010067>Auto bolter is for 'task you would never need to dedicate your primary to'meaning it feels like shit and it's useless
>>3010086So are you just like physically incapable of using a HBR or Stalker or
>>3010053You can technically permanently stagger majoris and extremis with the power charge if they are close enough. Too bad whip warriors and every ranged enemy will just walk away from you if you get too close.
>>3010092>HBRguess what does about as much damage as an auto bolt rifle>Stalker>the guns feel fine>just ignore all the guns that do not feel fine
>There seems to have been an error initializing or updating your transaction. Please wait a minute and try again or contact support for assistance.FUCK OFF ALREADY!!!!
How's the new Exorcist armor looking like in red?
>>3010110Literal skill issue. You ever heard of "the right tool for the job"? Not every gun is supposed to everything perfectly. Christ, this is who's constantly eating shit in my Absolutes
>>3010125>You ever heard of "the right tool for the job"the right tool for the job you should never use your primary for in the first placeso it doesn't feel fine>Literal skill issuemore skill doesn't suddenly make bodyshots deal damage or cause more damage per shot or automatic bolters stagger majoris
Bros go into the practice with the heroic melta and throw out a fully charged attack...
>>3010139>meltas shouldn't be used for minoris clear
>>3010183yes, meltas are for bunched up majoris and extremisminoris are little armor charges that follow you around
>highest scores no longer show up in goldOnce again, 0 testing was done.
>>3010193They never did, schizo
>>3010193They broke all the text. It's not highlighted in the chat too.
>>3010198>They never did, schizo
>>3010198
>>3010205
>>3010205>>3010206Looks white to me
>a twitch drop that can only be acquired by spending money on twitchmore patch 15 ragebait just dropped
>>3010213What joke was there meant to be?
>crucible is yet another separate queue, splitting an already small playerbase furtherI hate when devs do this so fucking much.
>>3010249Not only is it separate, you can't join in-progress games.
>>3010272Even if you direct join a friend? That'd be fucking stupid.
Frost axe perk is actually kinda okay. Too bad its balanced lmaoooooooooooooooooooooo
>>3010249They've been warned about this multiple times. At this point the devs are just clueless. The Tactical rework was finally time for them to show they have an ounce of knowing what the fuck to do for the health of the game by removing the regenerating ammo and grenades from Tactical, but the lead literally said on Discord that he's scawed of the backwash :(
>gravis and phobos dont get lamenter legsLMAO
>>3009376>>3009378Wow I almost called it.The Apothecary won't get any unique gear but he'll most likely use the servo-arm animations from the Techmarine as unique executions.
1 invis + 3 headshots to incap a ranged warrior with the las gun (used to be 1 invis). Wow, this sucks.>>3010290Dunno, haven't tested that.
>>3010309the rubicon surgery and its consequences have been a disaster for the astartes race
>>3010339Wait, how did the sniper get nerfed from all of this.
>hey tactical, would you like to give up your primary slot to become a much worse class?
Can't play the update just yet. Does Tactical use the Bolt Rifle to gun strike or does he just pull a pistol from out of nowhere?
>>3010395default grey pistol from his ass
>>3010395The latter.Did you really think these russians would think that far ahead.
>>3010346Tier 2 penance - Ranged Damage reduced by 15%.Tier 3 penance - Range Damage reduced by 30% >20m.
Chaos siege being only against nids sounds much easier than normal siege
it takes less than a half hour to mirror something properly in blender
>>3010510?
>>3010510Someone mentioned to me today that Ancient Pad is on-model with the BT mini, but come one Saber. It's kinda ruining my OCD.
>>3010522crusade ancient pauldron only exists on the left shouldersaber is too lazy or dumb to mirror it for the right
>>3010501Enemy loyalists make up for all the unfun bullshit you're missing by not fighting thousand sons.
>>3010529The tabletop model only got it on one shoulder.
>>3010563the tabletop is gay
Exorcist bros. I feel like this is missing something.
>>3010700Maybe runes on the legs?
>mfw the fucking 1h hammerWhat the FUCK is this shit ? It feels clunky, bad, and also the effect on it looks like SHIT.
>>3010710Do not exist.
>>3009376>>3009378>It's BiologisGravis bros we won
>>3010711Yeah this is easily the worst melee weapon in the game.
>>3010721we're getting ZERO cross interchangeable cosmetics between heavy, techmarine, and chestnut.
>>3010700God I hate phobos so much
>>3010700>>3010710>>3010761Looks infinitely better on Tac. Phobos loses again.
I've seen enough. Give heavy the heavy bolter as a secondary.
>>3010780Power sword HBR gravis captain. There is no reason they cannot do that now with the tac rework.
>>3010773How's it look for the Assault?
>>3010789Kinda mid but I didnt really play with any of the different armors.
>>3010786I want power fist heavy to larp Tor Garadon since with deathwatch being vanguard the IF skin is thankfully probably heavy. With the iron halo and his melee buff perks he’d probably be a pretty decent melee fighter
>>3010816Something definitely "feels" missing.The helmet needs to be more aggressive.
Enemies can still get stuck out of bounds in siege and chaos siege.Bugs fixed this patch>>>3010853The runes should have been a pattern template.
Kinda fucks on bulwark tho.
>>3010917The robes are definitely helping
>>3010917Is the floating shield bug back again
>>3010932It never left.
>>3010932>>3010934It never existed because it's not a bug. Guys, if the shield was any closer it would be clipping like crazy into the Bladeguard shoulder armor.
So what purpose do those damn QTEs serve? I mash the buttons like a fucking drummer to get out of an annoying animation. And for what?
>>3011127To not instantly die.
>>3011133Makes no sense when you could just block/parry that attack and get rid of the animation altogether.
>>3011127To lose less health
>Techmarine>Added Two-Handed Thunder Hammer.???What's the point of playing Assault now?Just play Thunder Hammer on Techmarine with a useful Servo gunPresumably it removes your primary despite not listing that like the Tactical change?
>>3011154what if you could dodge to get rid of the animation together
Man I really should just wait for the table to update.
Oh so the Exorcists descend from the Imperial Fists according to their novel.
>>3011224This might take a while. I just went with "manual" method to edit the values and I used another tool to modify gameplay variables so I can breeze through the levels.Already on penance level 3
>>3011249>breeze through the levels.Not him but how fast can you clear a penance level that way?
>>3011233Fists are probably the nuttiest loyal legion they just hide it well
>>3011354If you run inferno it can be 15-17 minutes depending on how tedious bomb deployment area gets.
>>3009844How do you do it, where do they post the cheat tables?
For those wondering; the heroic ABR isnt complete shit, its actually kinda usable. I wouldnt use it over the heroic HBR though.
>>3011249First class is done, but it's a complete bullshit you need to do this for every single class individually.Only a fucking russian could come up with such misery. A mode obviously designed to increase the grind further splitting playerbase at the same time. Amazing shitshow.
Why can't tactical equip pistols anymore? Also the White Scars head is such a let down. Is it that hard to model a moustache and ponytail?
>>3011806>takes the bolter secondary perk that says it replaces pistols>is shocked when it actually replaces pistols
>chaos siege>no way to get chaos cosmetics through itI don't want to play PvP, bros... I suck...
>>3011875Sucking is just the first step on the journey to sucking less! I believe in you!
>>3011233"""Imperial Fists"""They're GK rejects; those who can't proceed further into GK training get mindwiped and join the Exorcists
>>3011738How long is the grind from 1 to 6? Are the level 6 modifiers stupidly hard? I did one full penance run for the first level and I didn't even get the first armor piece.
how the hell do you set your armor for chaos siege
do you get anything from playing chaos siege?
>>3012162They have a tab for it now in the armor editor. If you're asking how to get the armor pieces, you still have to get 9 kills in 9 matches on each class
Shant be doing this ever again.
>quick match first crucible for bonus xp>chaos mission of course>3rd guy leaves>2nd guy leaves in the second to last area>AI director fucks me in the last area>hand pick a nid op for second mission>3rd guy chain dies constantly the entire op like it's the little brother's turn on the xbox>me and 2nd guy get fucked by the AI director in the second to last areaYeah. Fuck this actually.
>>3012167did that ages ago, are you telling me the UI for customizing your PvP chaos dudes is different than your PvE chaos dudes
>>3012188nope, nevermind, did literally 1 chaos siege match and it finally showed upit was not there before I did that, what the fuck
Didn't we have the Victrix Shield and Infiltrator helmet already?
>>3012188I think the PVP and PVE customization were separate for the longest time, and they just now decided to make it to where you could edit CSM armor while in Operations. I didn't really test it outside of sprinting through 5 waves while drunk>>3012191Helmet was a time limited pros drop that got added into the accolade pool after ages and the shield is new but gatekept behind giving Twitch money
>>3012200Guess I gotta find a Twitchthot for a tier 1 sub...
So Leandros is there standing randomly but there's only the Apothecary class instead of Apothecary and ChaplainThere's also the power mace already which can be reskinned for the Crozius
HJ3MWcrucible tier 1
>>3012207>So Leandros is there standing randomly but He's there for Crucible>but there's only the Apothecary class instead of Apothecary and ChaplainApothecary is first so they can justify pulling all of the healing perks off Vanguard and Bulwark. You should know how Slavs operate by now
>>3012210I'd join but only if you mind me playing shit Bulwark with purple 1THammer
>>3012219I'm still a green hammer assault, so hell yeah.I hammered alongside another hammerbro in my last match and it was pretty funny.
Leveling this shitstick up with Techmarine.You will not catch me DEAD with this thing as my primary means of damage dealing.
>>3012210any space?
>Can't build a proper WE techmarine for siege modeI'm gonna fucking stab someone
GG goys
N64IECrucibleBtw I'm sorry I squandered your banner heal, Bulwarkbro.
>>3012303Or assault, the most melee class in the game.Or sniper. Like melee sniper isn't better at melee than vanguard.Most melee obsessed warband in 40k. Almost every piece of armor is banned on the best melee classes/builds in the game.
>>3012319It's okay, I didn't know I had it until two sections laterEven then I didn't have the shield regen perk so it was useless
>>3012319ANSWER MEare the fur pauldrons usable outside the skin?
>>3012331Yes, I've seen people rocking it as an Ultramarine mimicking Captain Titus' look
>>3012337YEEESSSSSSSSSSS
Is it worth taking all of the penances for quick level ups?
>customizing your cape color completely breaks all your armor colors for other playersI am going to scream.
>>3012346Forgot image.
WHY THE FUCK CANT I CHANGE MY HOOD COLOR ANYMOREWHAT HAVE YOU DONE
How do we not have Thousand Sons chaos skins
Ggz, brothers. I gotta go gotta go yo ho.
>>3012319damn the game bugged out it was showing you guys as having left the party and then it DCd me kek
>>3012399yeah same was happening for me. oh well, at least I got one in.
sex
I am Titus
>>3012444>>3012455
what are the best heroics to purchase first
>>3012493all of them at the same time through cheat engine
>>3012501im no cheater
Does the extra Bolt Rifle remove gun strikes?
>>3012510no you just get one really weak one
>>3012493Argent Edge, after that it's whatever. You just buy them to level up your weapons much faster by being able to do damage in absolute.
>>3009376>>3009378>>3009385Who is the primary source for these leaks? I can never find them anywhere but here.
>>3006839melta doesn't do any damage to begin with +60% to nothing is still nothing
>>3012523I thought you have to use the actual weapon itself to level up
>>3012626Yes, you use the heroics because they have much better stats than the base weapons, so you can do damage, beat absolute and get exp to level the weapon class. Then you switch to relic block/fencing because 95% of heroics are doodoo.
>>3012637I thought heroics don't give XP, I've been using gray, green, purple weapons all the way to gold
>>3012641There's 2 exp bars; the weapon itself and the weapon class. Heroics don't give weapon exp (that gives perk points but you just use the currencies to unlock instantly), but do give weapon class exp so you can go from shit > green > purple solely using heroic weapons that have gold stats.
>>3012621The problem is that its a shotgun. If it didnt have infinite cleave they could make it work like an actual melta.
>give up your primary weapon and become a completely useless tactical(or use the signature that lets you still be a mediocre tactical) for the sake of using a melee weapon that is worse than a chainsword or combat knifeThe mind of a saber developer is truly incomprehensible.
Deathwatch champion looks great.
God damn, this update is actually ass. Cape color customization erases itself and breaks all your colors for other players. The one handed thunder hammer categorically fucked with weird sped up finishers, a pseudo charged attack that's actually kind of worse than just spamming the lights which are still slow and awkward as shit. Its only actual utility is shaving time off of bulwark's flag, because we really needed another way to do that. Yet another grindy as shit game mode with next to no new actual gameplay. Tact yoinks a random pistol out if he gunstrikes with a bolt rifle secondary. Why the fuck would anyone take power sword, power axe or this dildo hammer on tact? Sure, powerfist is bonkers, but its the only one that's an actual upgrade over just taking one of the two heroic chainsword options which are very fucking capable of fucking shit up. Why is versatility even still a perk on tact if he can be restricted to only using a secondary? Adding 30 seconds to secure stockpile doesn't make it no longer the best team perk, it just makes it a little lame. Why did tact need to have a pile of melee perks in the first place, isn't this what you guys made techmarine for? Why is the victrix shield tucked away behind a fucking offsite paywall? Why does chaos siege only have two shitty ass zones when there's only one and a quarter factions to fight? Why would anyone play chaos siege? Why was development time even assigned to this if its this half assed? Saber, what the actual flying fuck is this update?
>>3012772they didn't bother to make bolter secondary compatible with the chalice animations on obelisk lol
>>3012772With that out of my system and since the other dude isn't posting it, here's the biologis
The 1H Hammer seems to only have two executes for the spawn and rubric marine despite having 3 for the diskgor and warrior.
>>3012772Other updates feel half baked. This one feels a cut below.
>>3012776Yeah, I was doing something. Anyway Biologis Apothecary model colored and forced into the game.
>>3012829And couple of extra angles of Vangaurd's Deathwatch Champion skin
>>3012835You bet your ass we aren't getting that pseudo mk 8 backpack on its own. That would be too much fun.
>>3012690Was there even any demand for Tactical to just be a worse melee class? Chainswords and Knives are humble but solid weapons for when he gets stuck in anyway.>>3012829>when you haven't put a wash over the model yet
>>3012842>Was there even any demand for Tactical to just be a worse melee class?Nope. The only demand came from biggest fan of Dark Souls and Elden Ring - Dmitry Grigorenko the Game Director. >nooo, you can't have a primary, secondary and a melee PAxe or PSword, that would make you too OP!As if those are such a game changer on a class that isn't primarily a melee class. What a stupid mechanic, but it tracks since we are dealing with retarded vatniks so of course their decision is no fun allowed in mind first. Also:>what is Argent EdgeIt's BiS. There's no reason to use anything outside of that knife.
>>3009385this was my vanguard already. what would i be paying money for
>>3012872>The only demand came from biggest fan of Dark Souls and Elden Ring - Dmitry Grigorenko the Game DirectorThat moron would see all guns removed from the game and make it melee only. Maybe a little pea shooting sidearm for broken gunstrikes. Goddamn zigger.>Guys we are buffing guns to compensate for tac finally getting nerfed.>Buffs don't go over 10%There are no words that can describe my utter contempt for this dev team and the main man.
>>3012887Enemies reacting to getting shot by most weapons beyond a flinch that does nothing but make followup shots slightly harder would be nice.
>>3012912Understood, all enemies now permanently enter block stance immediately after encounting any damage.
actually how do these fucking vantablack devs manage to rape the framerate by like 15% every single update
>>3012140>How long is the grind from 1 to 6?An hour and half if you can speed your way. I suggest running inferno. Decap is okay I guess but I found the former to be smoother in general.>Are the level 6 modifiers stupidly hard?I couldn't tell you because I had game values modded (HP, ammo, damage) to ignore those. But I can see how they can be a nuisance.As I said before, splitting players into separate modes and forcing them to grind this much is a red flag. I'm afraid what they're going to do for SM3 and that's forgetting all the bugs that creep in or resurface with each update.
>>3012874uhhh, you get a cool looking knife strapped to your dude's legthat'll be $10!
>>3013006>prosthetic footall three iron hand fans will be buying itonly to realize they can't put a "phobos" leg on their "gravis" techmarine.
>>3013030Nobody here is under the illusion a Phobos leg will go on Gravis. The entire armor set excluding the cape, and MAYBE the power pack based on past Champs, will be exclusively for Vanguard and Sniper.
>>3013030The issue is that it's locked to Vanguard and Sniper, much like how the Salamanders champion was locked to Sniper before they reworked customization the first time
Pyreblaster with an accuracy Bolt Rifle as your secondary is literally more broken than past Tactical. The only thing holding the Pyreblaster back was its inability to deal with Zoans or the Neuro when forced to fight at range.
Rank 4 penances:-66% Camo cloack durationNo mortal wounds (insta die)Spore/skulls spawn on major death (team)+15% damage takenNot sure if I want to continue this pointless grind.
Crucible has hard strat's scaling
One round of Decapitation shooting gaunts from above was enough to get all of these, can't even say if it's as intended or if it was counting killing just 5 enemies or something
>>3013207Killing enemies in the hordes on the bridge section counts, that's probably why.
>victrix guard shield>paywalled behind twitch subsI knew those russkies were mean fucking vatniks but this is downright malicious.
>>3013245Yeah but I did not kill 100 enemies in 10 seconds
>>3013248I wouldn't even mind dropping a sub to a streamer that I watch for this, but I do not watch anyone who plays SM2 on the regular, and I am not giving a sub to First Tour Fagman or a rando
I love how the 1-handed hammer is complete garbage but the fact that its 3% cooldown reduction on your class ability that works on any kill is literally putting it in top tier.
>>3013248This kind of niggery should be punishable by tying their management and game director to drones and sending them kamikaze-style.
I think the Vanguard ordeal for the grapple finishers might mean taking no damage armor included, which is demented
>>3013248I've seen a ton of Victrix Guard without the helmet as well as Captain Titus LARP
>>3013248Btw, why doesn't bulwark have capes options or any tabards to pick from? Another Saber moment and its bugged?
Has Leman Russ updated the CE table yet?
I can't tell if they couldn't figure out how to revamp Tac's team perks to be able to even compete with Secure Stockpile so they just phoned it in by adding thirty seconds onto the equipment regen, or if they genuinely believe his options besides Secure Stockpile aren't abysmal dogshit.
>>3013320Nope, still waiting. You will still need to have at least one tier unlocked for his table to work with Crucible though so I am doing what the other Brother did here:>>3011249>>3011738I will at least get one tier for every class that way.
>>3013329>have to play every class twice with all penances just to reach level 2 crucibleFuck these vatniks
I think my favourite part about this update is that the dlc robes and cloth components are now uncolourable. There's not even a paint region for the BT tabard and the paint region on the DA robes don't do anything.
>>3013326Grigorenko is a coward. He explained on the Discord that he knows any and all regeneration perks are bad for the health of the game, but he "doesn't want to deal with the backlash." This is why Tactical, despite getting a whole fucking rework, didn't see Secure Stockpile and Emperor's Vengeance rightfully gutted from his kit. Both should have been nuked into dust.
>repeatedly activating the OHTH between swings stunlocks enraged majoris with the flashWell that's one use for it, I guess.
>>3013374They could've remade Emperor's Vengeance into a team perk. That way you'd have to choose between equipment regen or ammo. Plus the additional ammo regeneration would come in handy for other classes.
>>3013390No, both are bad, but an ammo regen perk outright makes Secure Stockpile redundant because infinite ammo is more valuable for everybody.Regenerating ammo and grenades is as bad as Heal Banner, because it takes away resource management entirely. It makes item drops a superfluous find instead of "oh thank fuck I needed this." It takes away from the director's influence on the player.No ammo regenNo grenade regenNo team healingThe only class that should be able to heal as a gimmick is Vanguard.I dread Apothecary.
Wtf is this Saber.
>>3013400This is my response to Saber.
>>3013395Apothecary will not be a healer hes going to be a dose giving class and some of his perks will increase the efficacy of stims but any direct healing will be limited if he has any at all.
>>3009059Sa'kan deez nuts
>>3013407I'm here to get everyone and myself juiced up on liquid butchers nails I mean "combat stims">don't you want to revive people faster and heal themNo
how the fuck are terminus excluded from this
>>3013405Ftfy
AAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>3013525>the weak should fear the strong
Leman Russ finally delivers!
>>3013525Honestly they should have expanded regular siege with what they did with chaos instead. New map and heretic chaos forces based on your pvp appearance that work like loyalists do.
>>3013543ehhhhhhhh
>>3013628Works for me. Are you logged in?
>Dash attack needs to flow smoothly into a light chain>Charge accumulation stance for both idle and combo needs to be way WAY fasterThere, fixed it.
>absolute true solo video on pooptube, tactical with a 1h hammer>end result>over 50k ranged damage and about 3k melee damage>he was using it as a stat stick to get auspex back fasterthis weapon is so unbelievably cucked
the new meltas are dogshit against 'thropes
>>3013543so far none of it is saving when quitting the game
>>3013698nevermind he updated it again
>>3013543Praise the Allfather.
>>3013637The 1-handed hammer is so close to greatness with just the minor of changes.The AOE on the dash attack is wide as fuck and works on Assault's free ability recharge, making it easy as hell to get charges back if you whiff.
>Techmarine gets free reign to take fucking anything he wants>Tactical doesn'tThe limitations seem arbitrary as hell. Wouldn't it have made sense for the limiter to be if the weapon is two-handed or not? So Tactical could take any one-handed melee weapon just fine, but then both him and Techmarine are forced to one-hand only if they take the Thunder Hammer and the future Power Greatsword? And the latter with the Omnissian Axe too?
>>3013850Saber does not balance off of stats or what seems reasonable, they balance purely off of vibes, and their vibes are fucking vile.
The shoulders are very tacky, but the rest of the Exorcists cosmetics are high quality. These also have lots of mileage for traitor designs, especially Word Bearers.
>>3013999The red I'm planning to use for them is close to Word Bearers red anyway.
I hate that what usually gets you is the out of sync shit being thrown at you all at once>tyrant starts doing its scream>whip nidder throwing out its combo >you can dodge the scream but the whip is going to hit you >dodge the whip and you get hit by the screamSame shit goes for dual thropes who choose to spam balls while the other one does the laser attack that hits you after you dodge one or the other
>Chaos siege mode>easier than regular siege mode>half the games are filled with Iron Losers
>>3013999the whole thing is tackyif you saw this coming up over a hill you'd shoot itloyalists ain't got no business having schizo demon scribbles all over them
>>3014077Anon they're the best demon hunters short of the Exorcists. They're covered in warding runes to stave off corruption.
>>3014092>>3014077*short of the Grey KnightsHurf I'm dumb
>>3014092>the exorcists are the best demon hunters short of the exorcistsyour mind is warp corrupted
>gunstrike damage applies headshot multiplier nowlollmao even
>>3013850>The limitations seem arbitrary as hell.auspex.
>>3014222Counterpoint>Servo-GunIt was arguably the closest competitor to Auspex before the changes to Tactical, and now it's unquestionably the best ability in the game for AOE nuking/boss nuking.
>>3014230true, nerf sniper servo next
>>3014141what modifier? just tried changing the perks out on heavy bolt pistol and it didn't affect it
Can cheat engine be used to unlock the lamenter stuff or no?
Apparently heavy pistol is busted right now.
>>3014298Yes
>>3014141I see what you're getting at now that explains why I was getting such a high gunstrike damage on tactical
The new table wont work for me lmao. It doesnt get past the game version detection.
>>3014328It does work except for accolades, but you can activate the free shop to make everything free.
>>3014337It does not complete the initial scan.
>>3014351CE 7.5?
>>3014328It works for me as well. DId you use the provided patcher?
>>3014351You didn't follow the instructions.It worked for mine outside of getting max accolades, for the crucible you need to select each class and activate them manually by selecting each level.
>>3014351Check your CE version. It should be at least 7.7
>>3014360Yes>>3014361Yes>>3014362The version for 1.4 worked just fine. The 1.5 version does not work for me.>>3014366Defender says 7.7 is a virus and I am scared.
>>3014367too late, I'm in
>>3014367>Defender says 7.7 is a virus and I am scared.Brother, you're not launching nuclear codes on your rig. Defender will always false flag it because it comes from an independent 'vendor' (technical term) and as such isn't signed by M$. As long as you download CE from its official website you're good. You can disable Defender for when you're installing it.
>>3014141I was wondering why a single parry gun strike was incapping meatballs with Sniper.
>>3014328It works for me but there is a campaign badge knee decal that doesn't get unlocked by any of the options. Unlock condition just says "complete crucible tiers" or something like that. I hope the allfather notices.
>>3014141>>3014286>>3014322>>3014450The base damage is like 60 right now for whatever reason. Really profound stuff here Saber.
>>3014455>It works for me but there is a campaign badge knee decal that doesn't get unlocked by any of the optionsWhich decal? Could you post a screenshot?
>>3014547Nevermind I figured it out. This is apparently very specifically heavy's campaign decal, and each class gets their own, and for some reason on him it was just unclaimed. I think I played a few matches of crucible on him before using the menu, lmao whoops.
Relic 1H Hammer feels better just because I unlock the double charge perk that starts making me feel like I can do garbage damage with Intimidating Aura.But holy shit, even Shield Bashing values are poor with the 1H Hammer equipped. This thing HAS to be bugged in multiple areas for how crippling it is.
>>3014685Its entire gimmick is that instead of having to parry and dodge spam you can stagger things so well that you can just keep attacking. Even incoming oranges from behind eat shit to the accumulation stance during the power loop. It's not a good gimmick because parrying/blocking/dodging and gunstriking are all worth far more than being able to throw out another fucking 30 damage hit.They better put power greatsword on tactical and it better not suck.
>>3014694>They better put power greatsword on tactical and it better not suck.They probably will. At the cost of taking his primary and secondary.
>>3014716>and secondarynot gonna happen, he'll just arbitrarily get power greatsword despite being denied power fist and thunder hammer
>>3014694Still, the ability to stagger almost anything should not come at the expense of needing to smack a minoris 4 times. Three times with the charge buff.
Unlocked all crucible stuff with Cheat Engine but it didn't actually reward me with anything despite being level 6. Can't claim rewards or anything like that either.Did I fuck up?Tried to maybe do it solo once to see if it triggers at mission completion but doesn't seem like you can launch crucible missions solo.
>>3014723He did say you may need to have one crucible tier unlocked so that rewards can be generated. However that specific information is missing from his instructions post so he may have been referring to his internal testing version.Anyway yesterday I hit Penance 6 on my Bulwark by unlocking each tier manually after completing each op so when I used the table I just toggled those Crucible two boxes and clicked through penance levels in the game menu. Try doing that again.Also check everything - patcher, CE version the works.
>accidentally buff heavy bolt pistol too much>assault is good nowIt was literally as simple as giving him a primary.
>>3015093>assault is good now>nowAssault is literally the most high skill high reward class in the game. If you can't Wings of Flame a boss to death, you're garbage.
They have gone too far with this one. Tho I can see a place for the HBP being a low ammo high damage precision weapon, but this is too much.
Apothecary loadout from the datamines. Subject to change.
>>3015313And stats for the Absolver pistol
what the hell did they even do to HBP, I'm getting warriors in a single magazine and when I shoot either thrope it's like I'm burning the fucker down>>3015313>the "he has a primary slot, but we don't actually care about it" lineup that techmarine got, againI tire of these vatniks>power halberdwhat? new weapon? they can't give him omni axe that's illegal
>>3015319>damage 9>headshot mult 4.5holy fuck thats even stronger than the buffed HBP lmfaooooooooooooo
>Never make anything like "copy appearance from PvE" in PvP customization and vice versa>Add playable Chaos in PvE>Still don't make the appearance shared with PvP and instead make it a separate PvE tab (that you can only access if you pressed the Siege tab in Launch Bay then go back to Armory)>Meaning you now have to copy your look manually between PvE and PvP for both loyal and chaosWhat the fuck is wrong with them?
>>3015444Here's hoping Space Marine 3 simplifies the fuck out of this entire system. I don't get this autistic need to partition your look between every game mode.
>you can cheese the crucible grind by running thru on minimallemao already got 1 char lvl6 like this. Super tedious tho took like 3h ~. Also if you stack the increased spawn rates you can guranteed make console niggers crash and gate keep them.
Auspex on Parry with the Block Power Axe is disgusting lmao
I get more ranged damage than melee every mission now lmfao.
>vs whip warriorStalker Bolt Rifle (damage):55.7Heavy Bolt Pistol (damage):64.8This is so dumb.
>>3015478How?I don't get any difficulty choice when playing Crucible.
hows the one handed mace? i havnt played for two weeks.
>>3015680dogshit
>>3015680Shit, made even worse by the fact that it takes away Tactical's primary
>>3015680Easily the worst weapon they've added to date.
Yeah the Melta Rifle absolutely fucks now, but its gimped range means you're taking the accuracy Bolt Rifle as your secondary or you're fucked whenever a Zoan or Neuro spawn.
>try tac rework>pick AOE auspex>pick range damage boost + melta>pick argent edge>absolutely rape packs of majoris
>>3015582normal terminal dif minimal set private bots off select mission to speedrun before going to the ready zone go to crucible man when you see the crucible number next to ur name it worked start mission ez xp
>>3015702which is amazing because the auto bolt rifle exists
I want to use a chain axe in chaos siege, it just keeps using loyalist skins for my weapons.
>>3015966set the skin to the lowest tier default
Can you make Titus's deathwatch armor yet?
>>3016080That's firstborn armor, please understand
>>3016086But they have the mark 7 and 8 helmets in the accolades shop.
Absolute is starting to not feel like absolute any more. Also there are still no good customizations for heavy.
Fuckin Leandros keeps trying to throw me in crucible matches
>>3016293>green deathballs>more Majoris>more Minoris than usual>Extremis every 30 secondsSomeone is playing Crucible and they're not segragated from normal Absolute.
Only debuting Apothecary next year is a mistake, they should throw in Leandros as well plus an Executioner for the 2H power sword; everyone is going to play solo againThey don't even need any voice lines for the Executioner since they have the vow of silence until they become a proper Chaplain and Leandros' VA isn't probably expensive considering they can hire him on a whim The power mace heroic and 1H Thunder hammer can just be reskinned as the Crozius Arcanum
Alright I've maxed out the 1hth and I can't think of any reason to use it over any other melee weapon. It sucks the least on Techmarine but omni axe is just better in every way
>>3016362>everyone is going to play solo againyeah, and this time it will take even longer because of the additional 8 levels.
>heroic bolt rifle is visually an auto bolt rifle>heroic auto bolt rifle is visually a bolt rifle...?
I tested the heroic stalker with the auspex and the auspex does like next to nothing. What?
>>3016538The heroic stalker's auspex didn't interact with the auspex perks supposedly
>>3016547I wanted a weapon for Sniper for boss fights. It's either this or the flamer bolt carbine (HBSR or Las gun doesn't have enough ammo).
>>3016567I just take the SMG.If I can parry + gunstrike it, then dumping a magazine while Exacting Focus is up means I'll be able to contribute in some manner.
>can't play IW Assault and SniperKWAB
>>3016080They said it will never make into the PvE because it's firstborn armor and Gays Workshop live up to their moniker.
>>3016685Makes sense, Pert was a whiny bitch baby that hated mk6 armor
Wow techmarine has (almost) full melee selection and picking any doesn't eat up his primary while Tactical has to do some stupid skills shuffling.Are Saber retarded? What is the purpose? Tac is not even a melee class wtf. Besides you already pick AE and can fuck up most things.
>>3016695Oh and I forgot to add: he still has his team perks untouched (Secure Stockpile CD increased to 90s lol). And they call it a rework....
>>3016695Techmarines are spamming the 1Hammer to regain their servo-gun back faster kekI'm guessing the vatniks tried this with the Tactical and were mortified that not only they could regain ammo from killing Majoris but also regaining auspex from that one perk
Fucking hell that was an uphill battle. The assault player left after wave 5, leaving me with a P1L12 Techmarine. Dude activated the Dreadnaught on wave 11, incidentally leading it to fuck off right when we would need it the most when wave 14 ended.
>>3016697>I'm guessing the vatniks tried this with the Tactical and were mortified that not only they could regain ammo from killing Majoris but also regaining auspex from that one perkThat would be an explanation why they did it with 1H TH but there's no justification to cuck the use of PSword or PAxe like that.
Do I need the season pass(es) or is the $15 on sale version enough?
>>3016835It's just cosmetic items, only pick up individual ones if you're really desperate
>>3016835Everything not part of the base game is cosmetic. If you want to play true Barbie doll dress-up then they're mandatory.
Handshake modifier is brokenSplit up is bugged but still functional
>>3016835It's very much a dress up game, at least for me, with some fun xeno killing features to run your Space marine through.I'd say if you wanna look good when fighiting and you're into giving your Marine individuality then I'd say Season passes are required.
HBP does more damage than a stalker bolt rifle. Very cool Saber!
Iron Warriors ABR is actually pretty good. Just fire it in controlled bursts and it retains the higher RPM.
>>3016738Any version of the PAxe with Battle Focus is disgusting though. Albeit at this point you're just playing a really gimped version of Assault or Bulwark who can both do the same thing without losing their core pieces.
Come prepared (10 stims) is broken
soo what's the point of this game? is it like vermintide where u just fight waves of mobs or do you get sweaty over pvp? I only played sm1
>>3016914That's the thing though, making him into quasi Assault/Bulwark makes no sense. It doesn't appeal to anyone except for their discord sycophants. At this point they shouldn't have "given" him those melee options. Just my opinion though.>Any version of the PAxe with Battle Focus is disgusting though.Fair point, I agree but when the ai director decides it's time to screw the player over it won't help that much.In the long run vatniks just hate for people to have any modicum of fun. Case in point: weapon "buffs"
>>3016986Operations is a coop exactly like Vermintide, Darktide and L4D. This 90% of game appeal and why people play it. You play it to get good at higher and higher difficulties and also grind cosmetics and new weapons to have fun with Siege are like Operations, but you sit in one area defending rather than go through missionsCampaign is a coop like Gears of War campaign. You beat it once and then don't play again. Then it pisses you off that cool missions are enslaved to this basic, primitive game mode rather than replayable OperationsPvP exists too and I kinda like it but the least amount of people care about it and it's very basic with little content and weird balance choices.So yes, it's ultimately L4D
>>3016995The best part of Tact's rework is the secondary Bolt Rifle. This makes him the defacto Melta/Pyre class because now he has zero weaknesses in his kit. He excels at both long and close range at the same time, and the Melta Rifle's piddly ammo count after the changes is irrelevant because Tact can keep it fed with Emp's Vengeance.
>>3017014It makes your gunstrike really shit tho.
I refuse to play Chaos missions.They are not fun in the slightest, and every new addition has made them worse.
You just insta die even with a relic if you have that penance on.
Jumping in after a long break. Let's see what happens. Wish me luck Brothers.
>Ballistic Engine recharge stations can get perma-stuck at like 46% nowlollmao
most of the modifiers I've played with are bugged
Tac parry + HBP gun strike insta incaps an enraged meatball. Very epic!
>>3017154what did they even do to cause this
>>3017091Still got it. Thankfully we got a competent Assault mid game.Carnfixed in the back thanks to Tac's tactical maneuvering. If it weren't for the relic picked up early on the op would've been finished faster than you can say Exterminatus.All things considered a good run.>>3017098lol, it went fine this time, but I might avoid BE for now if that's the case.
>>3017113most of the game is bugged
>>3017162I think some of the modifiers are broken on it, so it counts headshot multipliers on it now.
>firepower HBP>power strike perk on power axe>heightened vigor>battle focus This setup one shots every majoris and incaps every extremis in one combo
whats the best tact build?
>>3017331double nade launchers and argent edge + auxpex spam
HBP feels really good now it doesnt require two entire mags to kill a zoan now which is how it always should have been.
Is the gun strike power fist any good (for assault)?
>>3017489IMO it's one of the best Heroics in the game. Power Fist's charged attacks are so comically OP that a -50% damage modifier only knocks it down to the 2nd highest damaging melee weapon instead of 1st, its light attacks are the only ones worth using outside of the Chainsword, and the free gunstrikes combined with armor reinforce + gun strike damage boost means you nuke everything while staying alive.
>>3017489its a totally different playstyle for fist and it works okay. but it becomes quite boring sitting through execute and gunstrike animations
>Terminator sorcerer doesn't spam his gay ranged bullshit if you get in his face>Everyone just stands a mile away and plinks at him
>>3017665That's just flat out untrue
>>3017665>people throw frag grenades at helbrute and carnifex that is attacking me in melee>they dont throw them at the terminator sorcerer
>>3017352I thought the second primary locks you with a regular bolter, can you switch it with a grenade launcher?
>>3017790Any variant of the Bolt Rifle, including the Heroic.
Chaos siege mode is buggedIn wave 15 there's a high chance that the Vortex Beast, Hive Tyrant, Carnifex or Neurothrope gets trapped inside where you initially spawn in the mapThe Sniper Spess Mehreens can also hide themselves and never show up far behind where they spawn
>>3017803I had a Hive Tyrant spawn in the pit where all the hourmagaunts climb the walls and just get shot to death.
>>3017800So you can run double heroic HBR?
>>3017808Yea
Trying to fight the term sorc with melee is so fucking cringe, like the vortex beast. Fuck you saber.
>>3017790The secondary Bolt Rifle retains all your upgrade progress and has the same perks, but you can spend them differently independently of what you have for the primary version. Has its own auxiliary ammo pool for the grenade launcher, albeit also named 'secondary ammo' when you pick an ammo box up.
>0:27https://youtu.be/Sry0-Tlpp4g?t=27are they saying "aeldari" something?
*becomes a ranged class with the HBP*
this is the buggiest patch ever no cap fr
>>3018142New bugs in addition to not fixing any of the old ones.
>>3018146That's the saber method at work
>>3018146I don't even know if the penances that your teammates selected affect you even if you don't have them selected.
9CB5KCrucible tier 2Murder rape to all randoms
>>3016914>>3016995Saber proved again that they can't even do something simple as giving a class access to weapons without making it retardedly convoluted.
heavy bolt pistol puts ranged majoris into red with 3 head shots
>>3018406we finally have a semi auto marksman rifle that doesn't feel like shit to use...woah...
>>3018406It's great, isn't it. Higher DPS than Stalker rifle.
im glad i lost interest in this game a couple weeks before this patch
>Chaos Siege is just Siege but infinitely better because you don't have to deal with Chaos>Loyalist Marines who appear for 1 single wave in a series of 5 have more melee focused movesets and aren't AIDS to fight
>>3018462Snipers seem to be a pain in the ass. Not that they're actually difficult to deal with, more that they are very good at surviving. Cloaking every couple of seconds and fucking off instead of just dying like the rest.
Man if you ever play World War Z, you realize these russians cunts have no fucking imagination. Space Marine 2 is basically the 40k adaptation of that + dark souls melee fantasy. Jesus christ. Even the fucking talents and everything, its basically the game shit ported over.
brothers they fixed the assault bug. before the patch the dash attack ability recharge would only increment your ability +1 and waste all the charge building up. so if you were at 1.9 charge and you did the dash attack, you would be set at 1.0 charge. now it keeps all the charge you were saving up so it sets you back at 1.9 charge. so you can dash attack when ever you want. assault is kino, and you can mess around with the broken heavy bolt pistol.
Has there been any leaks on what weapons apothecary will have
>>3019096Yes>>3015313>>3015319
TBU3CCrucible tier 2For the love of god. Please fucking join.Crucible is literally impossible with randoms. One neurothrope and these retards wipe instantaneously guaranteed. And I'm trying to tier up assault here.
>>3019140Is power halberd the same code as the technarine axe? Is he getting his own?
>>30191462/3
how the fuck does everyone do so much damage
>>3019179Yeah its the omniaxe.
>>3019201YJPK22/3
>>3019271that was on me, I fucked myself with a hbr grenade right at the start that I thought was just out of range
>>3019263I have to imagine there will be a unique skin for it. Do we know what the ability is? Is he as comfortable in melee as the techpriest?
>>3019302We dont know his perks or ability.
Meant to look at the code, but oh well. New controller woes.
>>3019314you're in my domain now, son
>Ravenger grabs Khornate vanguard>"YOUR MISTAKE."
>>3019326>RavengerHow the FUCK did I mess that up.
>>3019318yeah nvm still on shit ping and physically cannot avoid saberjank regardless of how well I try and time anything.
I think we need a third.M3FVH
>>3019401for the record I was crucible 4 on tactical and went vanguard to soothe my hole a little I am actually a Gamerâ„¢ I promise
Also the new corvus cauldron cannot be applied to phobos. Lolmao!
>>3019410I know brother, that's why I'm still here. This shit just hard, yo. And we're each splitting one other person's share of the bullshit circus, on top of a full serving of our own.>>3019416I know, brother...gfdi;(
>Relic HBP and Meltagun only btw
Anyone up for Chaos Siege?
>>3019566Ammo melta?
>>3019622yeah, still pretty strong
>a single auspex parry from argent edge + one melta shot puts a lictor in executeI would argue that Tactical is even more broken than before
>>3019600Yes.
>>3019652Post code then
>>3019643Only shitters think tac still isn't the best ranged damage dealer in this game
sorry mate had to rush off
>>3019654GBHMS
>>3019706is this still up?
>>3019742Yes.2/3
Sorry bruv, got to go
>>3019639Yeah this is pretty good. Have to test it on an ammo starved mission like reliquary.
