PvE Raiders EditionPrevious: >>3006455>News & updateshttps://arcraiders.com/news/frozen-trail-2-0-updateFrozen Trails Out Now! Amp'ed Weapons, Outpost and More Grinding!https://arcraiders.com/news/pve-toggle-what-to-knowPvE Test(October 13-20) Griefers Unite!>ResourcesItemshttps://arcforge.org/Skill Tree Builderhttps://arcskilltree.com/Interactive Mapshttps://metaforge.app/arc-raiders/maphttps://arcraidersmaps.app/Event Timershttps://metaforge.app/arc-raiders/event-timersKey Card locationshttps://metaforge.app/arc-raiders/map
pvefags got what they wished for but not what they wanted
>>3078312Speak for yourself I wanted this.
the bantam and the new dmr are fun and good for what they are.the new tether gun seems to be dogshit against the bully as it immediately snaps off the tether 90% of the time. ive heard its better against flying arc though.
>>3078299This can be avoided by just playing normal mode. PvE mode a shit.t. carebear
I play in carebear lobbies, and although I had my fun in PvE mode trying out all the legendary weapons, I'm not sure if it's the right call to make it a separate mode. I think maybe a PvE map condition that's frequent and alternates between all the maps might be the best middle ground without splitting the playerbase.
>>3078981They should separate pve and the regular mode and remove abmm. Also make it so less people and spawning doesnt start until 10 mind into a raid and only freekits spawn.
>>3078981>without splitting the playerbase.But the player base is already split. The PVE mode just makes it so that rats can't game ABMM anymore.
>>3079042>the game was already almost ruined so it's okay we ruin it completely separate stashes and remove ABMMeveryone wins
>>3079047Alternative suggestion: same stashes and ABMM also staysFurthermore everyone who bought the DLC gets to vote on new features.
glorious
>I dont think you people understand this pve mode is so bad for the game, you're not even having fun, you NEED pvp to have fun in pvereddit is projecting hard today
>PvE toggle on. Play guitar, take pictures, say hi to raiders. Have fun.>PvE toggle off. Get loot, be sneaky, maybe get into a fight. Have fun.I love vidya gaem.
>>3079388yea the game even still feels the same, I completely forgot about it the last few days and nothing stood out as weird in my regular matches
>>3079378keksomeone posted this on >reddit with the title >"Rates use words to trick humans, you cant trust a word they say"and some pvptard replied and said>The problem is that you also use words.
>>3079042>The PVE mode just makes it so that rats can't game ABMM anymore.Not a problem if you're not an idiot and have situational awareness.>Serves him right, he trusted a raider!
>>3078488Tether gun is for pvp, disguised as a pve tool.
pvp players>pve players are so entitled by begging the devs to change the gamealso pvp players>REMOVE PVE RIGHT NOW I DONT EVEN WANT THIS TEST TO HAPPEN>LISTEN TO ME AND CATER TO ME EMBARK NOT THOSE GUYS
>me when i make up scenarios to affirm my retarded opinions
>only I'm allowed to have fun shitpostingpvpfags are so sensitive
Thoughts on Bantam vs big arc? Anvil was my economy boss slayer but now it's rng
dead game, should've known better than giving your money to the woke EA jew
Well, it happened>be in Stella loading bay>fuck up my jump and land in the middle>get mowed down by bastion>it aggros on me for 5 fucking minutes even when not moving>actually starts climbing directly on top of me and spinning to show dominance>someone finally shoots it and distracts it>start crawling to the exit by the stairs>see some guy lurking>appears to have no interest in defibbing me (no one defibs in PvE)>throws up a barricade in front of the exit>somehow gets the bastion to get an angle on me and finishes me offYeah I am never playing this faggotry mode again, and if it comes permanently and ruins regular lobbies I will stop playing entirely. I would rather be killed buy some faggot hiding in the shadows with a torrente. If you want my 50k loadout, you have to commit to killing me. The only way this pussy shit would stop is if you can not loot bodies in PvE unless the person is on your squad.Other encounters with these cowardly degenerates>waiting for the train with 6 other people>one of them is an annoying 10 year old who wont stop talking. whatever>another guy says I will use your IP address to come find you and touch you>talking about his balls dropping>mfw>be in Stella sandbox control room getting batteries>2 retards come in with pissed off shredder>they both have guns>one guy jumps out the window, the other one gets downed>manage to kill the shredder but nearly die>find the crawler and res him>rather than a thank you, she says in a strangely manly female voice "good boy!">mfw>getting bullrushed for 2 minutes straight while trying to exfil using the terminal>have to stand there and wait for time to run out>this happens more often than notMy conclusion is people need to be under threat of violence for them to act right.
>>3079740why are your matches so badmine have been completely normalI guess there is GBMM, griefing based matchmaking
>>3079740Lmao get fucked welcome to arc raiders year 2
>>3079740>My conclusion is people need to be under threat of violence for them to act right.Do you think plebbitors will learn from this experience that people only act right when in fear of being shot by their peers for acting retarded?
>>3079729what big arc? id rather use an anvil.
>>3079793>guess there is GBMM, griefing based matchmakinglmao people are having wild stories. my games have been normal too.
weird so many people are going>you HAVE to have PvP to have PvE be enjoyablewhile tons of people disagree
>>3080707p sure lots of pvers are coming to the same conclusion that the devs did in 2k23
>>3080707It's rats who hate pve people having fun.
>>3079740>My conclusion is people need to be under threat of violence for them to act right.you should have realized this when police started wearing bodycams
>Someone shoots at me in PvE>Chase them until I bull rush them>Turn around to leave>They shoot me again>Chase them for almost a minute until I knock them back again>They run awayGetting my bull mask in the next pass level, then the mere sight of me will strike fear into those dweebs.
>>3079793That is the only time I was downed in PvE and I was pretty sure I was fucked. In normal lobbies I could have been knocked but also a high likelihood of getting defibbed or at least left alone to crawl to extract.>>3080172No idea. They blame every negative interaction on some seething PvP player bogeyman.>>3081127I'm aware of how things work. I was just surprised on how many wholesome chungus PvE enjoyers are actually rancid people.People who are friendly in normal lobbies are actually friendly. Friendly people in PvE are only so because they are forced to be, and their true nature shows when they manipulate the system to kill you in a roundabout way.t. 1k+ hours and 20 knocks
>>3080729This is where the Arc community being too stupid to understand the term rat gets confusing. Because rats in every other extraction shooter skulk around stealing loot from under other players. They rarely engage in PvP. If anything disabling PvP allows these motherfuckers to hop into your loot room and steal right in front of your face.
>patch winners are>equalizer>aphelion>il toro>maybe bettina/anvil>everything else is dogshit or has no amps at allsemi auto hairpin is neat though, but that's about it.
>>3081893I like the explosive kettle
>>3081903I'd just use a hullcracker at that pointhow is it in pvp though?
pve mode whenthere are so many areas I have never been able to explore in my 300h or playing this game at launch because of backstabbing faggots
>>3081730alright I'll assume your not coming at this in bad faiththose arent "pve friendlies" those are pvp players getting access to "friendly" lobbies and not being able to shoot people
>>3082026this>get downed in PvE>3 fags in those PvP skins start throwing snitch scanners and lures>guy in regular outfit runs up and defibs me and walks away with photocloak
>>3081796Nice try rat.
>>3081796It's slang. Even for normal words definitions change over time and context. ARC is quite different from other extraction shooters, I'm not surprised rat has a different meaning.
>>3082026There is no reason for a pvp player to not farm a little in pve sometimes. It actually just reveals how large the toxic pvper section of the playerbase is.
>3 guys go down to turbine in PvE mode>see their flares>run to them>"No please bro, dont do this...">start defibbing them>"holy shit bro, thank you so much"
>>3081911Better but nothing stellar
>Full Carriga outfit>Bull rush people at random>They shoot at me>Chase them with unlimited sprint until I bull rush them againThis is way more fun than PvP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPe4snCQHGQ>the loot for fully completing the frigate is THIS bad>you need MMO-tier levels of knowledge, ammo, heals, and coordination to complete it>clearly designed for PVE only, becomes literally impossible if people stop working together>can't do it on the PVE mode>they worked on this for six months and released it in this statescathing indictment of swedish "people"
Why is this thread on /vm/, again? For months I thought nobody cared enough to make threads on /vg/ anymore, and only a few days ago I discovered they moved to /vm/. No wonder it's fucking dead in here.
3 turbines down2 to go>>3084428probably should have made a new general with the PvE test, but our general is so slow because there is nothing to goon and shitpost about, the most we get is some schizo funposting about being a hostile pvp player, and he doesnt get many replies anymorewhen our thread was on /vg/ it would just get deleted because we dont "bump" the thread since it would be like 50 posts of "bump" in a row before someone says something of substanceAND because of both of those things, our general got deleted multiple times because gachafags NEED to make their general at 750 or they'll die, theres a few generals like that where they could keep posting and their thread wouldnt hit page 10 for like 1500+ posts, but people need to get that red number off their screen
>>3084353the devs dont understand basic game design>hard thing should equal big loot
>>3084353its doable with a team of 3, streamers seem to think>oh we just kill everyone first and then do the frigatealso Valliate that pro trials guy, did it "solo" technically just needed like 1-2 random to breach stuff near the end, his vid was pretty coolhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dQKAFryhtI
>>3084428>No wonder it's fucking dead in here.it was pretty dead when it was on /vg/ outside of bumps and obvious troll posts
ohhh so thats why all the pvpfags are trying to sabotage pve mode>Well, get used to it, because if PvE mode is implemented there's nothing Embark can do to srop this.they're retarded
pve is so nice, I might never go back to normal lobbies if they release it
>>3081893What's up with the il toro? I got the bp on my first match back so its my economy gun now that anvil's blue.
>get downed in PvE>2 guys in pvp outfits escort me to the extracthow nice, I even said "thanks guys, everyone is so friendly in this game"they kept trying to stand in my way and drop those red gas canisters, but I just kept crawling around them and made it out
>>3084979slug amp toro 2-pumps medium shields center mass
>>3085253Pretty neat, probably not going to amp guns out right away but I'll have to try it.
What about instead of a pve toggle it was a pvp toggle?
>>3085338game would have been more successful
I still think about that dev saying he picks the bantam over the anvil
>>3078312Pve got what they wantedPvpbrownoids got mad and threw a tantrumI hope Elon buys embark and shuts down the gameItd be the only honorable thing to do
>>3083251>lose your good shit in pvp>go to pve to farm up a new buildWhy are pvp babies mad that there now exists a method to quickly ensure they can go back to pvp with their preferred loadout?
>decide to bring key to Emperor finally>spawn 900m from it and have to hide from the cold for 5 fucking minutes>finally get there but its open already>fuck it, go in just so I can learn it and finish the quest>make it to final room>12 niggers jump in through the window and loot everything>everyone bullrushing>get very little loot but I didn't use my key so don't care>feel bad for the guys that used their key and got nothing>other than that really enjoyed itHow would you fix this room so people can't get in that way? Not really sure other than Arc be in there already and the door doesn't open (have to use side exit to escape). Will wait to hear some interesting stories from regular lobbies.Oh and if you have bull rush learned you need to immediately kill yourself
>>3086595gun + m1
neat
>>3086506they lied about being pvpve players, they dont actually pvesaw a clip earlier of some guy blocking off a hatch with a barricade and killing 2 people, and it was some kid going>DUDE COME ON I PAID FOR THIS
>>3086595probably meant to be part pvp, but idk, maybe making it a fall that you need the descender for but you cant snaphook up to
>spending hours grinding Redirection and surveyors to get that Emp Key BP>Hurricane on Blue Gate>Booking it to RR to scour the breach and battery rooms>It's_fucking_nothing.jpeg>Hear rumor of someone finding one in a cupboard in the Village >Book it there as fast as I can>Searching through every nook and cranny I can for this fucking thing>Hear a raider slowly walking around upstairs >He goes "What's up, bro?">"What's good. I'm chillin'">"Whatchu lookin for?>"Just that Emp Key BP, it's a real bitch to find">"Oh! I've got one right now.">Fuck_that_shit.png>He runs down the stairs and my Anvil's drawn on him>"Don't fuck around bro, don't mess with me like that">He actually drops the BP>His_smile_and_optimism_RESTORED.jpegIf you're out there bro, you're the fucking shit. If I ever find that Bobcat BP, you're the first to get it.
>>3086741Yeah I found mine in Dam Apartments during EMS. People should be looking in residential containers during 2x events. I would wait a bit to use your key until all the exploits are fixed.
hooray
>>3087196not wasiing my bully fragmenters
>>3087196>using the Bully Fragmenteroh no>Go after a Bully with 2 randoms>after a couple minutes It goes down>8 people show up to lootIt's gonna get way worse now, I imagine
>Quit playing because I was sick of getting ratted as I never participate in PvP activitiesDecide to come back because of PvE mode>Love my first few games, not having to worry getting shot at>Nobody greats each other>Letting downed players die to get their gear>Getting bullrushed from containers>Kept prisoner in a shelter with 1 player on the stairs, 1 in the door blocking my escape>Approach and greet a random player to give away a spare Anvil blueprint I found. He sounds like a preteen kid who tells me to shut the fuck up>Caught in a blizzard, run to shelter with 5 ARC surrounding it. "ahh doesn't matter, i'll be save inside", they closed the door, I get shot and downed. They come out to watch me dieI've learned my lesson. I'm back to PvP carebear lobbies
>go to the pool every day>splash around with my fellow poolgoers>sometimes I get splashed in the eyes but that's rare since everyone in the shallow end agrees it's a dick move>the hardcore splashers have their own special deep end pool and we never meet>just having fun splashing around in the pool>some guy starts crying he paid for a pool membership but is too scared to swim>we all tell him the water's not that deep and he can easily walk around in the shallow end>he says no it's impossible and starts crying louder>finally the pool devs drain all the water out of our pool>crying guy is happy now he can play in the pool>just trying to have fun walking around in the empty poolAn ARC Raiders tale.
https://youtu.be/qRb60z8eI4o?si=hkDSyr0fZrBor0C6
>>3088304Funniest shit I've seen in a good long while in Arc Raiders fucking lol.
>guy tries putting a pulse mine on the flying platform up to the frigate>disarm it and kill him>I am now rewarded with rat pvp cheater hell lobbies for not wanting to die to some retardgreat system Embark, ABMM really works well
why dont the retards just copy the chink solution to pve/ ratting?
just had someone literally just walk into me to push me off wtf?is this some kind of glitch?I've never experienced another raider pushing another one (without bull rush that is)
>>3088421probably wouldnt work in NA
>>3088460I saw one guy walking around with no animations, guesing its some cheat engine thing but they wouldnt usually use that feature since they pvp
>>3088486if it works on the worst playerbase known to man it will work on mutts
woohoo
Frigate is such a joke>load up with a 100k loadout>get on top of it>full of naked or poverty kits>leave>re queue>same thing again>repeat great game design Embark
>dance with someone at the extract>thy suddenly stop>"Man you got some cool weapons, can I have one?">emote "no">extract shows up>so does a hornet>start killing the hornet>he starts trying to bully shove me and get his by it>he pushes me out of the way and takes the hit and goes down>turn my mic on>"holy shit you saved me, thank you so much, lets get out of here friend">for some reason he doesnt reply now
this is too much progress now, if expeditions reset any of this stuff, even less people are going to do themI guess expeditions will just be a inventory wipe type prestige system, because I doubt anyone wants to go through RNG hell again to get their items they need
>>3089600yeah dont know how they recover from this. theyd need to give me 2000 space bucks if they want me to wipe.
>>3089674I guess they have to consider real rewards, like permanent blueprints, I guess I can see the devs being like>well your workbenches reset and you have to farm frigate and emperor again, isnt that cool?
>>3089600>>3089674>>3089687I don't think Expeditions can work with this much progression in the game>upgrade your stash>find all bps again>build and upgrade your workshops>unlock and upgrade Outpost>build Outpost room>find Outpost bps>build Outpost furniture>unlock and upgrade research table>collect research points>do Emperor and Frigate for research materials>do challenges for amped guns upgrades>amp your gunsthere is far too much to do now, and especially if you are to cram all that into just 2 monthsplayers would burn out after like the first Expedition if they can iron out the kinks with the Frigate, it will serve as enough of a resource sink for the game to not need wipes
>>3089732I'm guesing it would be longer than 2 months but it doesnt feel like it would be worth itdoes Tarkov do that? just reset all progress completely? including quests and their version of outpost?
>>3089743I don't know how Tarkov does it now but back when I played it, it reset all quests and it's hideout yeahTarkov also has those shitty RPG stats like your health, stamina, recoil control whatever that gets reset tooI think the biggest difference is that most of Tarkov's progression isn't behind a bunch of RNG (especially thanks to the Flea Market)ARC Raiders is like a slot machine compared to Tarkov
>>3089768I got so lucky on the frigate thing, I have no idea how I'd be able to do that againotherwise I see a streamer trio wipe everyone out so they are free to loot the ship, I guess thats how embark expects people to play, like how you can just wait at the exit of Emperer to try and kill the people who did it
>>3089784I got my Frigate thing thanks to a guy who found one but had already got his, so I could have itit's really annoying how they lock progression behind just getting lucky
>>3089743Tarkow wipe everything, quest and outpost includedBut tarkov is basically cyber-CBT, I dont think that's the vibe embark are going for
>>3089797I still have to get theemprer thing, but luckily I hve the blueprint to make keyshow did I get the blueprint? killing a random surveyor
>>3089732and of course all assuming they dont add in any more stuff to grind. it would be a nightmare. at the minimum wipes would need to be every 6 months, coinciding with the major updates.
Last night of PvE before it's back to Chungartha.
i like pveplayed on launch but quit because friendly lobbies got really boring but i didn't wanna shoot people to get into pvp lobbies for fear of having to listen to some pissypants dadgamer whine at menow they're all in pve and i can actually play the video game
>>3090086Piss poor attempt at trolling. You could always just shoot people in the extraction to get hostile lobbies.
another turbine down, one more to go>>3090081shit I better finish this challenge up
>like to turn on mgs music and just sneak about, using field crafting/distractions to avoid people>stuck in carebear lobbies where I won’t get killed if I’m seen >new PvE mode is so boring that makes it so there’s even less reason to playIf PvE is going to be a thing, the ABMM should be deleted.
>>3090840down with both, both suckalthough ABMM sorts cheaters, it could be at least heavily softened, shit's as rigid as a concrete slab
>>3090850A toggle would be nice. I want to shoot back at people but I don’t want to club seals
>>3090853>lets remove abmm>lets make it a buttonwhat's the fucking point then?
>>3089732They're pretty smart pausing it to sort out what to do. I'm probably just not going to ever have amped guns because I enjoy the expedition 0 to 100 number go up loop.
what would the new expedition look like>level reset>inventory wipe
what the fuck do you put on an amped bettina? i don't feel it anons
holy shit, I did it, I lost a jupiter staying until the last minute spamming shots into it, but worth it to be done with this challenge
NO FRIGATE IS UP??????? EMBAAAAAAAARKThat shit should always be up IMO
>>3092542NA had one, phew
>>3092550aaaaaand no one does the objective here eitherI shouldn't be surprised
>>3092582yea man its been like thatif you do queen/matriarch you know>be killing the thing with like 5 other dudes>whole time naked/freekits are runing around collecting the cores that drop from armor>leaving only the ball left at the endthe update to make armor not drop cores and you have to kill the boss kind of worked out, still get people doing nothing who run to get loot, but at least you can focus on the fight before trying to lootmaybe theyll do something like that with the frigate if people figure out how to do it in solosbut right now the meta is to trio, kill all the other teams, then do the frigate with your brosor be so charismastic you get the lobby to follow you around the ship and you basically do it yourself with a ton of firepower to take down arc and the engines
>>3093329neat
thought it as neat seeing>ABMM is killing the game, it needs to be removedto>actually PvE mode will kill the game, why not just play PvPvE it has ABMM
>>3093329hmm i think its cool
>>3093417>>3093479heres with all the toggles off
already missing that PvE toggle
I wanted to like Arc Raiders but most of the grind/upgrade reason is cosmetics and i don't give a shit about thoseplayed about 60 hours and never changed from the default model
>>3093530hoping thats a future update, I think there was something datamined about customization and mixing sets, but nothing announced officially
I played so much during the pve testI'm going to stop playing now and hopefully that shows up in their data
>>3093329Generic mid level zelda enemy.
https://arcraiders.com/news/speranza-security-recruitment>That’s where you come in, Raider - join the Speranza Security team and lend your voice to the new Gondola extract!>Send us a recording of your voice lines for a chance to be selected as a new Gondola operator, guiding frozen Raiders back to their warm home.You! Yes you! You can now have your voice stolen by AI! Just send us a voice sample and we'll put you in the game! And feed it to our AI :^)
>>3093483sexy ww1 babe
DUDEwhy the fuck do they keep putting useless shit in the trader, we had the anvil and hullcracker last weekfucking craft a grappling hook if you need one, should be added to the normal shop anyway
just another frigate, the way it's meant to be played
>>3090864>>3078846>>3079585>bohooo i can no longer instantly 100-to-0 players that would have never shot me first boohoo>>3079047a sensible approach>>3085338revolutionary
>grind and unlock all 5 Ermal vault slots>put a survivor BP in each slot>get home from work>vault gone>BPs gone>no compensation for all the grinding it took to unlock the vaultsEvery day I am reminded how incompetent these devs are. Unreal.
>>3095436where are the books from, or are those also random drops from containers
>>3096078ive seen the purple research arc parts shown in the picture from arc drops. mostly shredders.
>>3095654
>>3095650>>bohooo i can no longer instantly 100-to-0 players that would have never shot me first boohooI said I'm a carebear, I only shoot first if you're a thieving nigger. PvE mode makes friendly lobbies for normal queue worse or longer waits.
>>3096742larp
>>3096758In what way?
>>3096742>queue worse or longer waits.worked the same for me
>>3096826Honeymoon period from the update, when things die down again it will be noticable. It's just math. If you remove a chunk of friendly players from the normal queue, times will be longer or have wider matches.
>the queue was worseno it wasnt>well it will be!
>>3096880>semantics
>>3096894>copingif people like pve so much, they would not be playing right now. and when they fix the trolling aspects of it like collision and bull rush, the griefers will return to the regular lobbies too.
>>3096929>if people like pve so much, they would not be playing right nowthey aren't, because the test has been finished for days
>>3096574>everyone buying vault slots to get free bronze statues that stack higher value that anything else and can be placed in your outpost
>>3097329oh damnthats smart
I feel so unmotivated without pve mode
I felt so unmotivated with pve mode
Man, I feel like a woman.
>>3096574Yep, glad they addressed it. I can put the bronze statues towards extra inventory slots and hold on to the restSo this has been my experience with friendly lobbies in the last few days:>everyone prox chats, actually respond to your greeting>hey you need this blueprint?>hey where are you I got a defib>guy asks for a heal so I bandage him and he gives me a guitar>hey buddy what are you looking for?>general chatting about quests etc. between people who aren't socially maladjusted>you and another guy kill a big arc, and its the only two who loot it>senses heightened because I know there is still a chance of getting shotPvE:>prox chat silence>when someone does talk they sound like they have deep mental health problems. get fight or flight response from what they say>no revives>griefing/bull rush faggotry>loot goblins everywhere>boring>generally hostile vibeInterested to see where they go with this mode
>>3098859my pve lobbies were mostly normal, maybe a team of griefers in each match watiing for someone to die to get their loot
>huh, energy ammo removed from the harvester >it was a pve match >less loot, like they said>let's get some free energy ammo in this regular harvester>they removed it Nice.I also like how you can put certain items into your outpost blocking other items, so that you can't select them anymore. Forcing you remove another item first if you want to select it again.Really well done and they thought long and hard about this.Loved hearing idiots announce that anybody who steps into their blaze grenade fire a rat. It's your stupid research. Should've done it PvE lobbies like everybody else, slowpoke.>nobody doing the matriarch >bastion on my ass>might as well kill it before I leave >use a wolfpack and a bunch of seekers >rocketeer aggro >cloak>loot goblin doing his work >try to loot >No bastion cores left >loot goblin still there >Kill him and get 4 bastion cores Man, killing somebody while he's looting is so easy. Is that what those pvptards brag about?LMAO Thanks for reading my blog
>>3095318Anvil and hullcracker are permanently in the nomad shop now after they removed it from the gun shop. Read the patch notes.
>>3100307I dont read patchnotes, but I guess thats cool
>>3089732Yup. I won't do another expedition if it means losing everything again. That outpost stuff is a ridiculous grind. Same as the research shit.I guess I'll turn it on every once in a while for an event or new map.
>epic arc loot can't be used with the nomad shop >blue and green arc loot as well sometimes >they forgot to add the new arc loot from the skulker and bully as currency in the nomad shop Embarrassing
>riven tides >southern extract >trying to do the light grenade research>bombardier right next to me >I start attacking it>a guy with an osprey starts shooting in my direction >call the elevator >run inside >two others join in the elevator >one guy drops a blueprint>drop 1 stack of light grenades to pick it up >the other guy picks up the grenades and starts throwing it at us
>>3095436I've done it maybe 10 times and got the frigate thing after doing a couple of naked runs. What an event. Now I need to get the emperor thing and then I'm almost done with all the new content. Killing 5 turbines will suck the most and amplifying whatever the fuck and using it.
there's supposedly a new survey being sent out in emailsI haven't gotten anything, but maybe someone here has?could anyone tell us what's in it
>>3100502same hereactually killing 5 turbines wasnt too bad, I probably made it harder because i just wanted to at least deadline them 1-2 times
Some of the lines of dialogue are so badly written. Could they change those instead of changing the face of that npc and record new shitty music?The matriarch and harvester events have some of the worst ones when the match starts.I'm muting my game every time and wait 15 seconds before I unmute. It's unbearably retarded Or maybe a toggle to shut those assholes up? Same thing in the shop menu.
Just dropped a big sour dookie
>muffuggn bix nood>wtf?>forgot to change my servers and i'm still in NAkek
>>3100936turn crossplay off and you'll get less niggers, not many play on pc
>>3101608crossplay was off on pc when that happened. So you're wrong, you n-word.
>>3101656You can say the nigger word on 4chan. Yes it happens but I said less niggers, not none.
I think I finally want to play the game again, still miss pve mode
>buy 2 vault slots>get refunded next weeksweet
>see guy trap 6 shredders in that one room>throws the bully thing>only get 2700 pointsskipping that shit
Rate my skill tree.
>>3105448is security breach even worth it?
>>3105522if you do a lot of pve sure, gives tons of free wolfpacks
>>3105522nta but I like it for weapon parts
>>3105522it's like 4 points extra to the best skill branch in the game so why the fuck not?
>>3105787>it's like 4 points extra to the best skill branch in the game so why the fuck not?yellow tree?
>>3105910NTA but you can get breach plus all the good perks including a capstone in yellow
>>3105522Wolfpacks and guns. Hell yah, fuck yah.
>"omg embark has a new project coming out, theres a trailer for it for the 27th">look it up>https://www.reddit.com/r/ArcRaiders/comments/1xdi6a2/embark_new_project_coming_souls_offering_raider/bruh, thats just a stupid arc raiders project
>>3107216oh boy I can't wait for 5 more random trinkets to enter the loot tables forever
Finally maxed out all my benches. Now all that remains is doing the quests and preparing for my third and final expedtion to get the last 5 skill points.
>>3107233the top liked comments are making fun of that kek>Hand over 6000 shoes for an Anvil 1
Arc Raiders raiders should have legendary augments, I feel like the dropped the ball not including any for this update. I feel like it would be fun to have a Shani Security augment where if a raider is killing players or profiled as aggressive enters within a certain range from you, she warns you over the radio.There could be a Tian Wen augment that gives you ammo safe pockets, and makes ammo and mods weigh "0" in safe pockets and weapon slots.I'd fuck with a Celeste Gathering augment, could have the most safe pockets + inventory in the game but it automatically breaks items down into your inventory. Would obviously synergize with that max recycle perk.An Ermal Augment could be cool, maybe you trade for it from him and it'll let you carry a certain percentage more of items in each slot.
>>3108787probably saving it for next 6 month update
>>3108787Waiting for an augment rework before releasing more would be my guess.
the grappling hook is so much darn fun
I'm glad normalfagsthink survivor sucks now, maybe they wont touch it>its impossible to get out of panola pass with survivor, they completely nerfed it and its useles nowyea haha, so hard haha
>>3113133You can use survivor to crawl to extract and on the pikmin rockets what are you talking about?
>>3113427I'll explain the jokemy post was clearly making fun of normalfags who think its impossible and agreeing with them so they dont nerf the kit
>>3113459Frigate would never.
>>3113619yea it was emperor which is more fun for some reason
all these amplified guns sound like they suck (if you amplify the hullcracker, it gets weaker bullet velocity, completely screwing up your muscle memory), with the only upgrade being the rascal
>>3086741>unable to get BP during PVE.>Redirection- cannot loot fast enough>on way out to reset again. Anon asks if I need emperors BP.>hell yah!>drops bp for me, says he looted 2 last round.>I offer him furniture BP for outpost he didnt have.>extract out. Thanks again anon. Really kind!
>>3114457love this game sometimesI've been doing the emperor and people have it already open and are just sitting at the first hydra, I'll be like>this your emp key?>"yes">drop them my unused one>wait>they pick it up and say "thanks bro">pull out my snaphook>fly past the hydra and start completing the puzzle
tfw been neglecting arc in favor or battlehounds...
>>3114644in favor of*
>>3114644por favor senor
>do emperor run>seems like a new guy>give him some tips as were running through>drops me a emp key at the endnice
>>3114521If we ever meet up you can complete mine. I really enjoy when players help other players in this game.
What is the useless outpost room with no storage?
just got an amplified bettina and amplified hullcracker from guys that died to the crusher wall
>help someone with a turbine>they needed the last hitdamn
>>3113930emperor>can be done solo>adventure through a dungeon>varied traps and complex mapfrigate>6 rocketeers, 4 vaporizers, 30 fireflys, 20 wasps, and 6 hydra>and you got 2 people with a anvil and 1 guy with a hullcracker to try and coordinate with>AND the rewards are worseMaybe if the cargo hold was better but as it is frigate blows.
>>3116395the loot for these should be switched. you invest 500k into a frigate run and get rewarded with belly button lint and a chewed up gum wrapper. meanwhile you bypass all obstacles with a snaphook in the emperor and get rewarded with a million orange loot.
>be me>on locked gate in reinforced reception>some spastic retard surrenders next to me>everyone else in the area now believes I killed a guy>actually have to kill like 4 dudes just to get out of thereyeah, thanks fucktards, and ABMM would have wanted me to just take my "punishment", so now I'm going to be stuck in the pvp hellscape thanks to these dumbasses and this shit matchmaking system
>>3117783LITERALLY the next locked gate raid I get shot at as soon as I see another playerABMM is such SHITand unsurprisingly no one in the lobby was trying to get it done, the first guy who shot at me just started shooting me out of nowhere in an open fieldI got away and against my better judgement I thought I'd continue trying to collect all the codes for the gatebut no, of course there is a guy CAMPING the reinforced reception printer, so I die as I genuinely didn't think someone would just be sitting there in the dark, waiting
>>3117783>>some spastic retard surrenders next to mehe's running to reinforced reception to get the survivor blueprint and then suicide if he gets it or not>everyone trying to kill me nowuse your mic and explain>>3117839>pvp hellhole lobbiesyea because the game thought you killed 4 people for no reason manyou'll probably have to play quiet and carefully for some matches, maybe even bring in a hatch key if you can, since those pvpguys love to camp or run to extracts for free loot
>>3117783so you're saying you shot first...
>>3117865>>3117885I didn't actuallythe first guy who saw me next to the dudes corpse just instantly opened fire on me with my back turnedso I had to run away, and suddenly I've got everyone down there after meYou're not going to reason with people who believe you just killed another player, especially when their first response is to just open fire immediately
>>3117896>Lobby willing to spill first bloodYou weren't in chungus you dirty rat
>>3117896Defending yourself doesn't affect your ABMM
>>3117783>and this shit matchmaking systemas opposed to there being no ABMM and 99% of lobbies being KoS? get some cheap kits for some raids and suck it up jesus christ.
>>3117997it 100% does
>>3118331that was patched outor you're a moron and think "defending yourself" doesnt just mean if you get shot firstlike that one redditard>guy comes into my keyroom >blast him and knock him out>suddenly in pvp lobbieswtf bros, I was "defending" my keyroom
>>3118359nah I tried it last week and moved from carebear to kos lobbies within one matchit was also some freenig trying to kill me with a fucking rattler, honestly these faggots shouldnt affect matchmaking at all
>>3118378are you not NA?not an insult, maybe its different in other regions, havent had some freenig try to nig me in forever and I'm on NAI'm also on PC, no idea if consolefags are like that
>>3118149I shouldn't have to perform the humiliation ritual of dying over and over to faggots just because a couple of guys forced me to kill them
>>3118378>nah I tried it last week and moved from carebear to kos lobbies within one matchI've had a freekit try to kill me and my lobbies never changed. I call bullshit.
>>3118331I mean you can see the patch notes that say otherwise, and plenty of anons here telling you from personal experience. If they missed their shots it doesn't count, maybe that's what happened
>>3118444Embark confirmed that players defending themselves (not shooting first) abmm is not impacted.
>>3118416NTA but listen here nigger, without ABMM you'd get killed way more fucking often than you do now. And if you're one of the people wanting PvE mode you'll just get griefed way worse than normal matches as shown with how people acted before. Plus you can't kill ninja looters, so enjoy your zero loot.
>be me>into the bowels of the emperor>some literal retard walks in front of my Anvil, almost gets his head blown off>can't patch him up, need to kill the hydra>ANOTHER FAG RUNS PAST AND COPS ANOTHER BULLETIM SHOOTING THE FUCKING HYDRA YOU FUCKING NIGGERS, CAN YOU NOT SEE WHERE YOU'RE WALKING YOU DUMB CUNTS!
>>3118564if its that first hydra, most people learned you can just walk past itthe other hydras people usually ignore
>>3118544my issue is not dying, it's the retarded gymnastics that ABMM puts players through and how it gets gamedI want the raw and organic emergent player experience, not something dreamed up by a shitty ass algorithm that works against natural player behavior
>>3118796nta but time and time again, natural player behavior turns lobbies into KOS hell holes because you literally cant trust anyone, and if they shoot you first and are ready to kill you, you just lose
Had to put down another retard today. Told him taking loot from ARC you didn't kill was a good way to get shot. Told him to leave and he shook his head lmao.
>>3118848nice one phil
>>3118796>I want the raw and organic emergent player experience, not something dreamed up by a shitty ass algorithm that works against natural player behaviorif you want KoS lobbies just start blasting people you tard
Riventide normal I pulled the following BPs: Powered DescenderCrash MatWhite Flag
>>3119268Damn all garbage.
Shinyatheninja dropped the evidence that Aimkey was cheating.
debating whether or not to waste some bully fragmenters to 3star that trial
>>3120050I threw three at a bombadier and wasted 3 other ones, I only got 1200 points, guess that ones for the trios
>>3118848Phil, you killed Celeste. What a little loot slut.
>>3119954Yah, true. I was surprised at the large concentration on a normal map.
>>3120795Good, bitch was ugly before and after the makeover
Im normally in Chungartha lobbies because I don’t usually have anything to gain from PVP. Been trying to do Emperor for hours the last few days but get bad spawns, or die to bullshit like bad snaphook grabs. Last game of the night, im kitted as fuck for another attempt. Spawn in fairly close and meet another guy who is down to run Emperor. We get to the opened hatch at like 28 min and some guy rushed in to the new Emperor dungeon like 1 minute into a match and managed to immediately set up a ton of mines and barricades, several mines on the elevator as well. it was so excessive compared to previous lobbies. Me and 2 other guys caught up to him on voice chat and said “dude whats with the traps asshole you cant carry all this loot out yourself anyway” he said “fuck you it’s my key eat shit” and wouldnt budge. We said the key is easy to make stop being a whiney bitch etc, he keep jeering us. So we decided to wait for him to finish the dungeon and we would jump him. Climbed the Emperor, then sprung in as soon as the loot room opened, I toss showstoppers and run in and gunned him down. Dude was kitted to the gills, had an Amplified Hullcracker and Amplified Kettle. He was cussing us out on voice comms I told him he was a selfish cunt and deserved to die. It was just me and one other at that point, (I already trusted him because I had shot him earlier thinking he was the asshole, he talked me down and I healed him, he never shot back.) Homie looted with me, found an Emperor module which I gave him a wolfpack for, and I was able to then upgrade my gun bench then finally amplify like a dozen of my weapons and complete the Emperor quest. Made even better because asshole had an Alabama retard type accent and said he would report me for exploiting. I never do a rat playstyle but this was soooo worth it. I am looking forward to some mixed lobbies for a bit
>>3120986You are brown, are you not. Disgusting brown behavior.
https://arcraiders.com/news/live-update-2-3-0
>>3121674>an actual non-meme heavy shield buffhory shieeet
>>3121717they said the buffed durability for frozen trails too
oh joy more random junk to dilute the loot pool
>buy 2 vault slots after hearing the announcement>they didnt get refundeddamn
>>3121838with everything "off"
>>3121736that's a meme buff thou
>>3121796guess the trader had to reset
>>3120986based
>guy makes a post called "Guide" for the new project>look inside>its just pictures of each step of the project>something you can literally do yourself>comment saying "We have very different definitions of the word Guide"my brother
>>3121845looks cool
>>3121674>nerfed emperor loot>frigate loot buffed(but only at the very end)So overall nerf right?
>>3122500>>nerfed emperor lootonly the stuff leading up to the main room.
>Reduced the drop chance of the Emperor Key blueprint from Redirection pods, and added a small chance to find ARC parts and high-tier ARC loot to compensate.but why?
>>3122573gotta stretch out those 6 months of no content
>>3122500I think they just nerfed the early shit near the beginning, the end is still pretty nice>>3122573idk, I feel so lucky I got that>stupid blueprint>frigate inductor>emperor inductorbefore all these changes
>>3121536white as the sun actually. Most of my raids I am helping people find shit or teaching them how to assemble emperor keys, get quests done, etc. but I like killing greedy asshole redneck jabba the hutts (he had a fat voice)
I hate change. It makes me uncomfortable. Also without expedition I have no checklist to mindlessly grind for so see yin 6 months or something.
>>3122651I still have quests to doI dont really like the amplified weapons, as a pvefag, the amplified hullcracker sucks unless you just amplify it for the cool reload, and a lot of fguns are like that for some reason, I guess its balance but its like>here amplify this gun>actually its a side grade or it would be too OP>oh btw you have to farm the emperor if you want to repair it, we actually lied that you could repair weapons normally and just lose access to the amplified part
>>3122573normal swedish retardation
>>3121674>still no reversal on anything from the triple snaphook nerfI HATE SWEDEN I HATE SWEDEN I HATE SWEDEN I HATE SWEDEN I HATE SWEDEN I HATE SWEDEN I HATE SWEDEN
https://youtu.be/iI6cuCic6Aogood videobasically no good reason to do the new activities. even if you wanted to do them, design of the new activities incentivise people ratting and freekitting it up and not actually engaging with the activity ie standing by the emperor door or looting the outside containers in the frigate with no need to actually finish it
>>3123446Why bother playing? To have fun.Why bother NOT ratting? I'm not a nigger.
>>3123446how old is this video, because they patched emperor and frigate this morningas for the whole people being rats, yea I think that's part of the game philosophy, otherwise why wouldnt they put an extract right inside the emperor when you complete>b-b-but that map has g-g-gondolasyea like the fucking devs of the game cant put in a hatch in thereits way more likely that if you are in pvp lobbies, you are supposed to fight other players to keep your shit, keeping with the theme of an extraction shoteras for frigate no idea how to incentivize that, the patch mentioned removing all the rare stuff from the easy to get to spots, so now its just going to be if people learn to work together to actually try and complete ittook a step in the right direction with the patch today, but people killing you is just going to happen in this kind of game, maybe if they include frigate in pve, pve emperer was alright
do people actually complete the frigate now or is it still hobo land?
>>3123446>>3123548>2 days agotechnically outdated, so dont feel like watchingbut if he's just complaining about assholes trying to camp your extract and people not doing the frigate and emperor, not really much you can do besides pvp them off of youand just accept some of their game design is to get you to pvp to keep your loot, thats how emperor felt, everyime I watch a frigate run its like 4 guys looting the whole thing themselves and leaving casually
>>3123565frigate update was only today and not everyone reads patchnotes, so might take a week for the dickheads (naked runniers) to figure out they're wasting their time
>>3123548sure you can never stop ratting but they can make it a little more difficult for people to stop being freekitters completely cirumventing the entire challenge.the devs understood this with the queen legs, cores less likely to drop from armor parts and the actual legs need to be destroyed now. does that stop freebums no but it at least makes it a little harder for them to steal away the cores. this entire incetive angle also applies to emperor vs frigate. why bother doing the frigate when you can do some stupid obstacle course with a snap hook (or wait by the door) and get 10x the loot and 100x less effort? its just retarded design choice that i think they do because they dont want to alienate the dad gamers.
>>3123664yea it will be interesting to see if the update today helpsalso that buff to purple shields, that should help some against frekitsas for the loot distribution, i think the frigate is more for knowledge, but thats just from seeing people pulling out those gold knowledge books at the end of frigate, and I havent found those in emperorto be honest, the whole amplified weapon system feels like shit, this stuff isnt used at all if you arent at "endgame" and if you are, then what, you're just sitting there running emperor over and over again to have materials to repair your amplified weapon that you can use for like 2 matchesI guess they are supposed to be trial tools? cause they're not needed for emperor, maybe frigate? and then a lot of the upgrades are just side-grades, not actually improving the gun too muchsome notable ones for me are>reloading 2 bullets at a time renegade>mag reload hullcrackerstill have to try>amplified anviland >amplified ospreyeverything else sounds like a bad upgrade (single fire bettina) or used for pvp
>>3123446yeah the whole amplification system is retarded and feels like its made for some pve mode
>>3123676>>3123768Amplified guns are ridiculously effective in pvp
>>3123782thats cool for pvpbrossome of the guns do seem cool, but i only fight arc
>>3122569>nerfed 60% of the stuff>didnt buff the last 40%Thats called a nerf. Glad I abused the exploit before they patched it, which seems to be a trend with this game. Abuse the cheats, exploits and bad design then laugh as it gets nerfed.
>>3123937if you abused the exploit then what does it matter that they nerfed the crates leading up to the main room?
>>3124122It doesnt for me, cause I got mine. Also the exploit got patched, friendly heads up.
bobcat nerf when?
I have found every trinket 5 times over and not one fuckin dead flowers
>>3125124the headshot modifiers in this game are... too muchin every game actually, especially if they call it casualdoesn't BF have it at like 1.35x?
Killed a rat who lured someone pretending to be friendly.>looting in the offices of the railway station>two raiders outside>Yooo bro what gun is that? What gun is that?>*rattler dump*>pop fzzoooWaited a minute, then ran downstairs and Venator’d, then finished him with an impact grenade when he hid in a doorway>brooo why’d you do thatSucks to be you rat>freekitIm the sheriff round these parts
>playing last night>reading the new update between games>emperor key bp drop rate will be reduced>go to pendola >do a redirection >get the bp and extract>game then updates Thanks for the heads up Embark, fucking nerds
should arc have wipes?
>>3125519it should have a faster gear turnout, but the bitchmade wont allow it
>>3123676> There is no incentive in the endgame, I'm doing the most challenging shit in the game and there's no cool shit to reward me for it. >- Here, have these weapon amps. >- Ugh, what for? This stuff isnt used at all if you arent at "endgame", and if you are then you're already doing those missions you are doing.You just want more progression, in a game that already has too much progression.Like 90% of complains ITT become meaningless if you just do the maps and modifiers yo like doing instead of optimooozing your goop per hour in Excel like it's your job.
>>3125821>Like 90% of complains ITT become meaninglessdude we're just a bunch of chuds wasting time posting on 4chan, its not that serious, redditors are the ones who are demanding shit
>>3125821it's not a question of progression, it's a question of it being too fast with nearly no losses so people burn out fasterthere's no pacing to anything in this game
>>3125963>it's not a question of progressionIt is, in the sense of you being unsatisfied with more activities without appropriate special rewards, and with more special rewards without appropriate more challenging activities to apply them to.>it's a question of it being too fast with nearly no losses so people burn out fasterIt is true that in AR you can get all the shit relatively quickly if you what you're doing. But it is just plainly completely wrong that dragging it out would make anyone burn out slower on the game. It's not just a personal vibe take - we have dats on EFT, which does take an absolute shitton of playtime to get into endgame content, and we know for a fact that people burn out way worse on EFT. Amazingly, forcing people to play game in just one (often deliberately limited and unpleasant) way just to maybe gain access to playing it in a somewhat decent way 150+ hours down the line is fundamentally quite exhausting.Extraction shooters are by design not suited for a directed progression. They are not RPGs, they are first and foremost sessions shooters, with loot and NPCs serving as incentives and modulators of emergent of emergent gameplay (situations that happen because of loot, gear and ARC, that would not happen sans the extraction system). If you think there is, then you don't play the game for the game - your gameplay is the stash. There is no real road from A to B in the nature of the gameplay, the only way to make such a road is to artificially gate shit for no reason other than dragging it out. That does not compliment the gameplay, and only makes it extremely tedious. You could just as well say that CS2 has no pace.One could argue that gating makes sense in the vein of not overwhelming nooks with too much content, but even in that sense - I believe that even AR is actually too slow, with workshop improvements serving as pointless bloat. It would be better with even less "pacing" elements.
>>3126253>1k hours to get your bearings vs doing endgame content on day 2not even remotely comparable, retard.>your gameplay is the stash.yes, but considering that nobody experiences losses (because abmm/pve/general ease of aquisition) people just end up hoarding shit and then leaving when the stash is full
I have been ratted twice now in Stella. Not just some freeshitter rat either, bobcat 4 rats. Granted both times were my fault but at least with other guns I might have a chance to react but not against the bobcat. Dead in a second. Whats up with that? All the rats in Stella?
>>3126794yea unless you are in friendly lobbies, normalfags treat stella like "the CoD map" and treat this game like its team deathmatch pvp, they might not even know you can loot shit
>>3126372>people just end up hoarding shit and then leaving when the stash is fullGood, we don't need those "people" anyway.
apparently there was a scrappy update, and if you feed him candelberries you get some of the exclusive upgrade bench purple shit
>>3127724Someone said they got an emperor module from candleberriesI got a vita spray from giving olives. So if you have a stack of fruits when extracting it may be worth it
>do 1000 damage against surveyors, fireflies, fireballs and hornets with the shittiest grenade in the gameWow what riveting content!
>>3128556yea that one wasnt that fun
>>3127633It just means that nobody loses gear enough to keep the gameplay loop running.If you can gain loot easily it should go just as easily because loot... is almost the whole game.Shit doesn't even last a single season cycle that's how bad it is.
>>3128556Following up on this man this is such a sorry and shitty gameplay experience doing these absolute choresIm out here going into the tunnels of Blue gate with 10 impacts finding these bitch ass ARC as well as trying to get a shredder low enough hp to kill with the raider tool, but I guess being on fire isnt a clear indicator of actual health so i go all out hitting the thing and it fucking gets back up then blasts meAnd these impact grenades, they do like 40 damage a hit and you have to get 1000 DAMAGE against 4 TYPES OF ARCI dont know man this is pissing me off. What the fuck. Doing all these chores for these amplifications…. im just gonna play star wars racer or something
>>3129056>loot... is almost the whole gameBruh...
>>3129876the end point of almost every activity is lootpass on the roleplay shit
I didnt know you could store stuff in outpost to free up inventory space. Cool.
>>3130263yea, theres some furniture with a lot of spaces too if you hold onto trash for the trader
>>3130263Does it hold anything else than trinkets?
>>3130495There's a cupboard that holds plant items including fruit.
finished the event. see you guys in 6 months.
>>3131538Have fun with your backpack>6 monthsnevermind i guess
>>3129952What fucking role-play? Are you one of those anthropomorphic abominations that play Overwatch for the sake of their ever-growing spray collection, or EfT for the prestige pixels?Mentally healthy individuals play ARC for how cool it is to rodeo a Matriarch or 1v3 a squad. Loot is just tickets to daviliate that.
>>3131786
>>3131786>rodeo a Matriarch>get cores>1v3 a squad>get fat gearthe conclusion to every activity is still loot you fuckwit
>>3130495Gun cabinets. 4 guns per.
>>3131826I would ask if you happen to fuck for the sole purpose of filling condoms, but I think you'd have to refer that one to your mom.
>it's braindead
>found roughly 6 rock salt and 5 fancy plates>no dead flowersyeah
>>3133401same. must have found 6 plates before finding the 3 flowers for the second step.
>>3131826>>3132154"If a man asked what was the point of playing football, it would not be much good saying 'in order to score goals', for trying to score goals is the game itself, not the reason for the game, and you'd really only be saying that football was football—which is true, but not worth saying." - C.S. Lewis
>>3133659>tfw you have to explain what an extraction shooter is with quotes about goyball analogieshalf of the playerbase can't read or intuit what the fuck they are doing and everyone is just going off "aura" and "hype moments"i want off this ride
>>3133659Football has the outcome of a game explicitly measured by the score, with winner and loser of every match decided by the score. You have to play good football in order to score the most goals and win a match. You cannot play good football without ever contributing to either scoring or preventing goals. Loot in Arc Raiders serves no purpose outside of eventually being used in more raids, directly or through turning in some of the quests for gear to be used in more raids or upgrading other loot to be used in more raids. The outcome of raids is never measured by the value of loot carried out, there are no loot-based leaderboards or other means of comparing yourself with other players or squads regarding how good you loot. Optimal looting strategies focus on minimazing gameplay - you route through spawn areas avoiding both arc and players at extract ASAP, so you have to avoid actually playing Arc Raiders in order to gather the most loot. You can play Arc Raiders for 500 hours on free kit and be a top player without picking up one single item to carry out of the raid. You gather loot in order to raid, not raid to gather loot. Once you get beyond midgame, you end up taking in more than you take out on half or more of your raids. Extraction shooters are session shooters with loot serving as a conduit to emergent situations: it directs players to meet each other and NPCs in various locations, at various power differentials, with various setups, which is "the whole game". You get in, use your skills with kit building, movement, shooting, tool use, map knowledge, match progression and interpersonal communication to fight NPCs and other players (in whatever proportion you prefer), defeat them and get out (the actual win condition). The loot taken on the way is merely the means to do it again later, with the same or different capabilities provided to you.
>>3133918>the game isn't about loot>but the main catalyst for the game is lootyou've said absolutely nothing of importance in 3 paragraphs only proving the football quote poster right
>>3133938>catalystSo you do agree it's the means, the instrument, the support mechanic - not "the whole game", as I explained in detail. Good, thank you.
>>3133996remove the catalyst and you're left with codyou're retarded
>>3134001Remove everything that is not loot and you're left with a pixel collection gacha. I win.
WHERE ARE THE GOD DAMNED DEAD FLOWERS
>>3134006>he's agreeing with the football poster againbraindead troglodyte
>>3134010Concession accepted.
>>3134009I smoked em up hehe
>>3133401Not dropping at all for me. Embark quietly nerfed drop rate.
how am I supposed to find these new trinkets
>>3134420old world loot locations. for me, trains and old town in pendola pass.
https://youtu.be/2mCSnadVVqAAnother banger video>Frigate loot was not removed from early containers, only the drop chance>Can still get high tier loot from those early containerslmao embark have no clue on how to make a game it is really crazy
>>3134420Lockers for train lanternDesks in Space Travel and Research for dead flowers
>>3135021I thought that was obvious, they wouldnt just make the containers shittyactually theres a universe where they probably would have done that
clenching so hard I could crack a walnut
>>3137038
>>3135021the emperor is so fucking easy to fix its laughableeither make it like the guy in the video said where the door closes automatically after a minute or twoor add a button that opens the last door so niggers cant just walk in and steal everythingthe frigate on the other hand is borderline unfixable
>>3078299I was so excited for Frozen Trail, now I feel zero motivation to play this>friends get their kits back from cheater lobbies we played in, I only get a "thanks for reporting!">solo is as miserable as ever>get one kill = sent to shadow realm of cheaters & people who've done nothing but PvP the past 1000h>they botched outposts so there's no point in doing them besides stash space>they didn't fix trials>there's no other long-term reward or grind system>the playerbase proved they don't like PvPvE, favoring either one extreme or the other>no incentive to care about loot & extracting so everyone just PvP's>every Stella match is dead silence until someone cracks a shield and then you get waves upon waves of 3rd parties and campers waiting to clean up after a 20 minute fightThere's just no incentive. It just hurts. See you in half a year I guess, I hope THE FINALS will fill this void for the time being.
>>3138899>the frigate on the other hand is borderline unfixableremove inductor from first phase capsulesmake capsules unlock only when nearby cores are broken
>>3138992I will agree that the MM system us ultimately fucked. It's not people favor extremes, it's that the system does not allow for any kind of middle ground. You either avoid PvP like plague and stay in carebear lobbies, or you end up accumulating more and more killer karma until you reach lobbies with Tarkov etiquette. There is no place for proper PvPvE in the system."Muh no incentives" is some key jiggling tier infant shit tho. Niggers are about to start asking for a salary for playing vidja.
>the big husk clusters during frigate dont count for the trialBut why?
did none of the loot goblin retards get the memo that embark nerfed the frigate loot outside of the last cargo?there is still no one doing the mission
>>3139439>"Muh no incentives" is some key jiggling tier infant shit tho.ultimately there's no reason tothere's not a single activity in the game (frigate is cheesed) that requires an ally, if you git gud enough you don't need anyone, ever.
>>3139583WHATprobably oversight, idk what spaghetti code the Unreal Engine is in, but its like they have to always do all this shit manually for some reason>scrappy eats any fruit>OH YEA CANDELBERRIESthere was something else I forgetoh I just rememberedweapon stencils revert amped weapons back to their ugly unamped state with the skin
>>3140001actually I managed to get a lobby with enough people doing it and these three items were all I gotnot worth the effort at allgenuinely what was their idea with this "endgame" activity? we were like 10 people cooperating and we got it done with 8 minutes left on the timernobody is getting this shit done without at least 4 people and the loot is so abysmal you'd have to run this shit an exorbitant amount of times to actually get any use out of the mats it dropsand unless you're in carebear lobbies you're not getting this shit done at all
>>3140001nerfed but not gone. loot the early containers and no good purples? no problem just reroll into a new lobby and try your RNG there. thanks embark!
>trying to shoot turbine for damage trial>won't fucking land>hear jupiter constantly going off>run to the retard>tell him he has to let it land in order to damage it>no speak english huehuehuehueI hate brown people.
>>3141939you were the retard herelearn how the jupiter works
>>3142270Except he wasn't shooting to hit the weak points, it was just random spots
>>3141939>>3142328that is the strat that everyone tells youidk why, but nobody knows you have to stop shooting it to landwatched some girl streamer trying to kill turbines and when it was flying she was like>come on land... come on land....while hitting it with hullcracker in the airalso you just aim at the middle with jupiter, the idea is that you are shooting through the armor and hitting those yellow things that spin when it lands, but if he's not aiming for that, yea he's dumb
>>3126794Stella isn't safe even in carebear lobbies. If you want nearly pure PVE, go to Riven Tides.
>>3144284If stella isn't safe you haven't reached carebear lobbies yet
>finally fully amplify my jupiter>want to kill some turbines>stella night or arc frigate>59 minutes leftfuck me I guess
>PvE mode, all maps/modes>PvP mode, all maps/modes>PvPvE mode, all maps/modes, once you attack someone you get marked on your character model, 5% improved loot tables >ABMM removed entirely It genuinely is that simple to give everyone what they want.
>>3145142That doesn't give me what I want, sorry.
>>3145244*And a pegging mode where an amazonian has her way with him for this anon
>>3145292I want friendly lobbies while being able to kill thieving niggers, anon. Removing a chunk of friendly players from PvPvE mode gets rid of that, and if you remove ABMM there are no more friendly lobbies.
>>3145349There was no ABMM at launch. There was no negative change to PvPvE when PvE was added. You're fear mongering.
>>3145349I want the option to play pvp and pve. Options are good.
PvE snowflakes are crying again, sigh...
>>3145403>There was no ABMM at launch.Yes there was:https://gamesbeat.com/how-arc-raiders-devs-dealt-with-the-rollercoaster-of-hyper-growth-player-abandonment-and-then-slow-cooked-a-major-update-aleksander-grondal-interview/>Grøndal: With that system, which is a completely new way of thinking about matchmaking–I don’t know if any game has done it exactly like that. It came in quite late. We actually didn’t have that system in the last test. We finished it and then we said, “Let’s just ship with it and see what it does.”>>3145470>I want the option to play pvp and pve.Good thing that exists, it's called PvPvE>Options are good.Not when they make others worse.
>>3145503Not in the form it is now, which is far more punishing. The release 'version' didn't do shit and that was provable by anyone who actually played at launch which is probably why you didn't know it changed. >Not when they make others worse.We just have two weeks of PvE. It had 0 impact on PvPvE. Just as it has had 0 negative impact on Tarkov, or any other game which offers PvPvE/PvP and PvP like the entire MMO genre.
>>3145519>goalposts: moved
>>3145520I accept your concession.
>>3145519>Just as it has had 0 negative impact on Tarkov, or any other game which offers PvPvE/PvP and PvP like the entire MMO genre.The devs are huffing their own farts on "their" PvPvE. Rust, Tarkov, WoW, Eve, Runescape, Guild Wars all did this shit in different forms. They also offer pure PvP and PvE and it all works together just fine.
PvE mode removes friendly players from the normal queue, that's a fact.. As post-update numbers go down, queue times will increase or matchmaking quality will go down.
>>3145593>Zero sum gameIllogical and proven wrong by the 2 week test. PvE servers added tens of thousands of players, many of who only returned and only played PvE servers. There will be a cross over of SOME PvPvE players moving into PvE but there was no evidence that PvPvE changed overall.This arguing is pointless, devs have confirmed PvE is coming back. Its over.
>>3145616Citation needed.
>>3145624>What is steam player count >What is developers own comments and posts
>>3145624Game peaked at 168k players on the 11th two days before PvE, update day only got 131k. Game lost about 50k players once PvE left.
>>3145646>>3145653If you're both going to be steam chart trannies let's take a deeper look at the numbers then. The first day of PvE had a peak of 162k concurrent players, the last day of PvE had a peak of 122k concurrent players. PvE made the game LOSE players.See how retarded steam chart reading is, you fucking idiots?
>>3145714Amusing bait 4/10
>>3145767Concession accepted.
>>31458140/10 bait
>>3145822You already couldn't provide citation, it's over man
>>3145833It is over, PvE is coming back.
>>3145847>“The challenge, of course, is how we do that without undermining the premise of the game itself.”It's not coming back lol
>>3145893Appetizers of tears to be followed by a main course of your bitching in a couple months lmao
>>3145893Anon...
>>3145912Yup, it's going to ruin my friendly lobbies. Forced friendliness is bullshit.
kind of hope new expedition resets my raider back to his comfy little room in speranza, and I just wont unlock amped weapons at all sick they suck ass anyway
>>3145616I will gladly take a """dead game""" over (((slop)))
>>3145616it was a one week testalso that guy is stupid, it would be retarded to not add a pve mode after the test
>>3145937>Forced friendliness is bullshit.nta but ABMM is essentially forced friendliness due to how prone people are to cuck themselves over le reddit karma points so they don't go into le bad boy lobbiesif you give people a safe space, they will not leave it, blatantly evident by how many people just take it up the ass instead of shooting back
>forgot about this thread for a few days>come check it out>some dumbass is still fake crying about pve
>>3146063That's not what I mean at all. People can shoot you but if they don't, that means much more than being unable to shoot someone.
>>3146095willpower is useless for most unless they are forced to make a choice, ABMM never forces you to make one because of how profitable being a cuck isthere's nothing to fucking choose if the dad lobbies are objectively the fastest way of progression, you're lying to yourself
>>3146095I think the guy you are replying to is trolling or retardedwe already had this post chain days ago explaining how without SBMM or ABMM lobbies just devolve into pvp centric lobbies where everyone is shoot on sight>why dont they just not shoot each other on sight, are pvpfags stupid?yes
>>3146101See >>3145349 being loot whores is a double edged sword. I'll put you down if you take mine. I did the other day.
>>3146138there is a boundary but it's not integral to the gameplay loop in any way if it happens once in a blue moonit's still just silent looting for the most part
>>3146143People talk all the time in my friendly lobbies, dunno why you haven't seen that. Maybe you're not in chungartha.
>>3146149last time i heard anyone talk was during the first week of frigate when people were still trying to co-op and do it>so you're not inso you're a retard?
>>3146153I've talked with people in-game today.My anecdotal evidence > your anecdotal evidence.
>>3146157If you discount the single nigger blasting some track on his speakers then i didn't hear a single cunt open his mouth in the last 20 frigate raids and more
>>3146162You do turn crossplay off and are on PC, right?
>>3146164correct.
>>3146165Sorry your lobbies are like that, mine are complete opposite.
>>3145503Fuck off nigger. I want the options separate. Keep the current system or not- I dont give a fuck. Injecting more players into this game is not worse. Anything to whittle down 8 minute wait times in a lobby.
>>3146224saw multiple people saying "its nice to fight arc and gear up a little and then head into pvpve"all the complaints against are just bad larps crying about hypotheticals
>>3146256>"its nice to fight arc and gear up a little and then head into pvpve"literally>gibsmedat good
>>3146224>Anything to whittle down 8 minute wait times in a lobby.Don't live in or play on a dead region?
>>3145142>>3145503>>3145593Hear me out. PvPvE mode and PvE mode. You don't get to pick - picked randomly and you only learn what kind you got after spawning.
>>3146302>picked randomly>learn after spawningthis is the most retarded way of saying you want PvPvE and coping that you actually don't
>>3146308I vastly prefer PvPvE, and particularly AR's implementation, because I believe that IFF, split-second alliances and betrayals all truly add a new dimension to gameplay, and I truly believe that both carebear lobbies and turbonniger lobbies created by the ABMM only serve to harm that concept. That said, people who just want to shoot ARC should have that (objectively inferior) option as well. I am merely suggesting the optimal compromise, i.e. the solution that equally infuriates everyone. It also benefits from regularly forcing PvE beyondmeat eaters into real red meat lobbies to keep them continuously aware of their quasi-helot social status.
>>3146302I just want the game to stay as it is right now. I got my friendly lobbies and I get to kill thieving niggers or micspamming fags. I go to jail for a bit but I just farm basic mats or something as I get back to chungartha.
>>3146358nothing changes if they add a seperate pve mode and keep abmm, plenty of people think like you, there is also a group of people who will not touch a game with pvp in it and this caters to them, its almost like the mode isnt for you
>>3078299>>3078312>>3078470>>3078488>>3078846>>3078981>>3078989The removal of PVP will not do what you pve redditor degenerates think it will.• But it will protect us pve babies from having to compete with people who are better than us in every wayNo it wont. It turns your pve baby game mode into a speed runners game, where the good item drop zones will be speedran and farmed. This is the sole purpose of your new pve baby mode.• But it gives me the option to play pvp when i choose toNo it doesnt. This converts the NEW pvp game mode into a kill on sight battle royale. You're no longer here to get gear and complete quests with the threat of other players you are now here solely to use the top end gear you farmed in cant die mode• But I still dont believe youGood thing this isnt the first time this has happened:>Firefall (Well before Redbeans)>Dofus>Wakfu>Tera>New World (Launch)>Wildstar (Free2play Relaunch)>Tree of Savior>World of Warcraft (TBC/WotLK and beyond)>Sea of Thieves>Dune Awakening>Worlds Adrift*Once Human is a special case similar to New World where PVP was reworked entirely for launch. In OH the cause was not poorly educated developers however, the game fell under jurisdiction of the new at the time chinese law that outlawed forced pvp in video games. This game saw normal launch hype but was immediately review bombed by players who participated in the game's playtests who felt the game no longer reflected the original game. Player retention of new world recovered once other game modes were added. See: https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55594294034_18470cc313_c.jpg
>>3146510You cried about Arc Raiders being "dead" at 30,000 players? Watch the playercounts in the following twoish months. The trend is always the same; Expect a huge boom in players with the announcement followed by a moderate-slowish downfall that doesnt stop at the newly joined pve players, but continues by draining the core playerbase who feels like what they paid for no longer exists.Many such cases.But if all of this information is freely available why do game developers continue to listen to these redditors and forum users who play their games 3-5 hours a week?Because you are not the primary audience for these changes. The core playerbase who keeps their game alive in the vast majority of cases do not buy anything from the cash shop. Less than 1% of the playerbase are "whales" who spend hundreds of thousands per year on video games. Do you know who does? The "mobile gaming" market. The people who play video games for less than 10 hours a week total and want to "unwind" after working all day and do not have a problem spending X number of dollars to look cosmetically better than everyone else around them, or depending on the severity of the cash shop, be stronger than those around them
>>3146510>>3146516>TLDR; grab cash fast and put the rest on life support as the game fades into obscurity due to becoming yet another pile of slopSad, innit
>>3146516>>3146510I don't remember Asmongold ever playing Tarkov. I also played Tarkov since 2020 and a PvE mode was been a popular demand even back then, since learning the game in PvP was (and still is) an intensely masochistic experience. > this isnt the first time this has happenedThat's a list of 11 utterly dogshit horrible games right out of the gate tho, so I don't think PvP changes had any drastic effect on them.
>>3146510>mass reply nigger can't even read the posts he clicks on to make sure he replies to the right peopleI said PvE mode was a shit, retard.
I think one aspect of amp'd weapons sucking is that its kind of its own seperate loop>run the emperor>amp your weapon>run the emperor again to repair or make new gun>repeatso if you do like that system, theres not much reason to do anything besides run the emperor, even if you're like>I'll use this gun for 2-3 raidsthen you have to run the emperor to repair itI guess in the future, using like big arc cores like bastian or something to repair, would at least have you interacting with the base game, but the base game and that amped weapon loop dont really mix muchbut maybe thats the point>this is a really good gun to use during a trial not everyday usebut then I just use IV weapons fine and dont need the headache of having to run emperor if I dont feel like it that day
>>3147284the juice is just not worth the squeeze
>turbines almost never spawn unless it's a major map condition now>literally 25% of ALL major map condition events are stella night raid
>>3147342>turbines almost never spawn unless it's a major map condition nowThat's not true tho
>>3147471https://arcraiders.com/news/store-update-2-2-0
he's asserting his dominance
>try out aqmplified rattler in testing range>eats through 4 stacks of medium ammo in a few tests cause 66 round drum mag>check durability>140/200>exit testing range and just keep it in my stashguessing this is for pvp, energy weapons look fun, I'll try those next, working on aphelion
>>3147793Fully amplified jupiter is fucking good. So easy to take down turbines.
>using a side computer while waiting to redo my thermal paste>have to wait until later today so just bullshitting with some arc raiders with browser>"I should do that husk trial">attempt it like 10 fucking times and find 0 husks>open up metaforge>dont have adblock installed on this computer>opens like 3 AI ads>overloads my computer>crashes Arc Raiders>forces me to close and reopen my browser and close that tab before it loadswhat the fuck man, ads are so AI now, and for some reason a sight like metaforge has to put 3, and one of them isnt even able to be exit out of, if you click the X, it takes you to a page where you can buy your own adsbut I guess thats the point when everyone should be using adblock now
>>3147793Amped rattler is PvP, bobcat ttk in theory with double the range, but also twice the spread so 50/50 odds you melt the fucker or do nothing.
>>3148109>, but also twice the spread so 50/50 odds you melt the fucker or do nothing.the spread shouldnt be that bad so long as you dont get the drum mag, right?
The update was only enough to keep me playing again for 2 weeks. Now I just log in every Tuesday for the 750 battle pass points.
>>3147479>GENERAL>Increased the spawn consistency of ARC Turbines in Buried City, Riven Tides, Blue Gate and Spaceport; in sessions where they previously only had a chance of spawning, they should now instead spawn in an overwhelming majority of, if not all, sessions.>...>Dam Battlegrounds>Removed ARC Turbine spawns from standard sessions and most minor map conditions. In the remaining conditions, they should now spawn in an overwhelming majority of, if not all, sessions.Now looky here because I know you are a clinically braindead retarded gorilla nigger so I will help you>DAM BATTLEGROUNDS >DAM BATTLEGROUNDS >DAM BATTLEGROUNDS >DAM BATTLEGROUNDS
>>3146275>NA region>Cool story bro You fucking brown.
>>3149095Even during the content drought this summer I didn't get 8 minute queues, bro
>>3148649Guess I misunderstood the notes, they almost never spawned on day raids previously and major map conditions was like 90% chance so I assumed they increased it to 100% for majors on those maps and decreased for dam day raids.
>>3149280It's ok to misread the notes. It's a whole another thing to actually go play and full placebo psyop yourself into thinking>"Yeah them turbines all really be gone from all maps without major conditions now fr"
Hate how they were hyping up the skill tree rework and it was them shuffling good skills around and adding meme capstones like weapon bashing or bull rushing.I want the next update to be nothing but a complete balancing and rework on this game.>Another skill tree rework with good skills fuck off with shitter melee skills in a game where bobcats can beam down a heavy shield in one second>Augment reworking>Less people on maps, no more late spawns for real kits, late map spawns dont start until 22 minutes>TTK adjustments either more health less damage done or shield buffs, whatever to increase TTK
>>3149422I almost never play outside major map conditions
>>3149199
>>3149834Are you in kos lobbies queueing for day raids or some shit? Just queued for bird city and it took no more than 20 seconds.
>>3149873No faggot. I queued for space port to do a quest. I had to wait 8 minutes to get in. This was 10/31. Im in Chungartha.
>>3149484>shitter melee skillsThey are very convenient for dealing with some arc or traversal.Being in kissing distance from a nigger with a bobcat is already a fully deserved fail state. There is and can be no skill that counters point blank magdump from a bobcat, but that doesn't make all skills useless.>Augment reworkingWe need more and wackier augs, but that's about it. >Less people on mapsNo, the opposite rather.>TTK adjustmentsAR already has the single longest TTK of all extraction shooters on the market right now, about 5-7 times longer than EfT. Which is good, but it doesn't need more. It would not alleviate the issues with getting jumped point blank with high RoF weapons, as all the other ways of killing players will suffer disproportionally more.I feel like you just want a Bobcat/Stitcher/Tempest nerf, while I'd rather see a low RoF weapons buff, to hear shitters seethe at Osprey and Renegade as well.>>3149946>Im in ChungarthaVgh.
>>3149946works on my machine
finding dead flowers was the worst shit ever, I had finished the third step before finding a final dead flower for the second step
>>3149948>They are very convenient for dealing with some arc or traversal.Not the end capstone skills. The melee skills are very meme-tier. Even the yellow skills are kinda meh, except for maybe the unlimited sprint due to kinda changing the game. Which is what I want the augs and skilltree to do, to drastically change the game you play the same way the hooks do. I would want the movement tree to be so good, you would not need any hook, thats how good it and transformational it should be. Instead its like>Wall climb and unlimited sprint, whatever I guess.>We need more and wackier augs, but that's about it.Same as the skill tree, I want the pink augs to be truly transformational and changing the way someone plays like a snaphook does, I find proposed buffs to augs such as >just give it more weight and safe slotsto be extremely boring and the perfect example of what they should not be.>No, the opposite rather.No. Maps on pendola pass, you can run 50m and already run into other players, then you have players continuosly spawning until the spawn cutoff at 16 mins. its too much. allow some breathing room between the spawns and players.>TTK adjustmentsTTK is technically higher by like half a second than other games maybe but in other games, characters move a lot faster than in arc and again its like half a second higher in arc, its still really fast to die in the game. id like to see it bumped up even more.
>>3150043yea that looks annoying, I found the salt, but I'm working on the flowers nowthought I saw some on the ground and was like "OH SHIT"it was just that useless "roots" item
>>3150073>Same as the skill tree, I want the pink augs to be truly transformational and changing the way someone plays like a snaphook does, I find proposed buffs to augs such as >>just give it more weight and safe slots>to be extremely boring and the perfect example of what they should not be.nta but I do like how survivor basically gives you a whole different game when you go down and have to crawl to extract, only other one I use is Aggressive because it heals after some downtime which also feels like it changes the game at least a little bitI dont pvp so I guess the other augments arent as useful to me, the smoke seems cool, but I wouldnt use it against arc
fucker tried to gank me while I was hullcrackering some flying ARC swarming. two headshots with the anvil got him
>>3150073>I would want the movement tree to be so good, you would not need any hookThat would just invalidate the hook. >to be extremely boring and the perfect example of what they should not be.We need a few boring augs, and some wackier ones too. But the wacky purple augs should not be hook tier, because that would invalidate normal playstyles. >TTK is technically higher by like half a second>its like half a second higher in arc>characters move a lot fasteWhy do you have to be so full of shit bro? You realize that it makes you look like a fucking shitstain, right?
>>3150278why do people who do that like that hockey skin
>>3150435that one, the samurai skins, the arabian skin, the skeleton/antler skins, that mask + horn skin, and of course the OG black and orange skin
>>3150316>Why do you have to be so full of shit bro?How am I full of shit? Even something like a rattler knocks you in 2 seconds, forget about the bobcat, which knocks even faster. You can go to any TTK chart or play the game, the top pvp guns kill people in seconds, like two seconds. Other games play way faster than Arc how is that full of shit? Arc characters move slow compared to a lot of games.>We need a few boring augs,Sure for green and blue but not purple. A pink aug should never be gain 2 health a second after not taking damage for 30 seconds, or a free defib every 2 minutes. The higher tier augs should be something wacky and cool that changes how you play.>That would just invalidate the hook.And why not? That would be the reward for maxxing the movement tree. You should move like a monkey, climbing walls, wall-running and running around like spider man with max movement tree, it should be a game changer to have one a tree maxed. Idk what other trees would look like, maybe one tree is like some sort of deployable guy that deploys his own robot army and can take over arc, who knows but something wacky and cool for maxing the tree. Not>uhh you can weapon bash, a skill you will never ever use lol thats your reward, 6 months to "rework" the skill tree for this btw
>PVP PVP I NEED PVP PVP IT'S ALL THAT MATTERS BALANCE PVP MORE PVP SKILLS LOWER TTK HIGHER TTK PVP KILL PLAYERS KILL PVP PVP PVPI like to kill robots haha
>>3150586>the top pvp guns kill people in seconds, like two secondsNot exactly. It's 0,8 to 1,4 seconds, depending on the exact gun and shields involved, and the practical average (Bobcat/Torrente point blank dump) leaning towards 1.1. And average TTK in EfT is 0.23 seconds - the only necessary assumption being that the gun+ammo combination is not invalidated by armor. So it's not half a second, and more like a full second difference, which is also 5-7 TIMES difference with AR. So yeah you are full of shit. Beyond you being full of shit - even longer TTKs will not help you eat less shit in point blank exchanges - whether you lost the lead on a 1.1 second exchange or a 3 second one, you're dying either way. The main effect of already long TTKs we have now is that they make mid to long range engagements very much breakable and that's good for the playstyle AR has. Longer TTKs will just make combat feel bloated and unresponsive with the same conclusions at short ranges, with long range shootouts becoming completely pointless (which they borderline are already) with how safely you can just break LoS and fuck off. Some kissing distance tech with rolls, doors and ropes will become more valid as well, which will also serve to extend the gap between sweats learning such tech and everyone else. >Other games play way faster than Arc Movement in EfT is explicitly way slower than AR. >A pink aug should never Why? What is wrong with a pink aug that just gives simple consistent advantages, assuming that>And why not?Because hook is cool while being somewhat gated reward that you can lose and can only replace with a bit of effort. You don't play every single match with a hook even at late game. Granting a similar degree of utility to a skill makes it no longer stand out, it becomes a new baseline. >That would be the reward for maxxing the movement treeGrinding out levels is not something that merits really substantial rewards.
>>3150706>Why? What is wrong with a pink aug that just gives simple consistent advantages, assuming that we also get weirder augs? >>3150586>You should move like a monkey, climbing walls, wall-running and running around like spider man >Idk what other trees would look like, maybe one tree is like some sort of deployable guy that deploys his own robot army and can take over arc, who knows but something wacky and cool for maxing the treeThat's a different game. Go play a different game.
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>>3150720kek
>>3150706>>3150586gentlemen, a frightening suggestionwhat if you HAD TO reload your weapon to kill someone (thus increasing TTK and victim agency and making fights longer which makes smaller bonuses more noticeable in fights etc etc) UNLESS you ate a near-full mag of headshots or 2 headshots from something railgun-esque>inb4 burletta sidearm metathat means every faggot on earth would stop running weapons for all ranges in 2 slots which would actually constitute a weaknessalso tempest supremacy (it needs it)
>>3151256Never let bro cook again.
Tbh the rarity system for weapons in arc is a nothing burger and if devs decided tomorrow to remove it and streamline the costs of making weapons in general none would change,there is barely any weapon diversity especislly in pvp lobbies in places like stella or hotly contested red zone rooms like security wing blue gate where its all just bobcat 24/7 with people rushing you and gunning u down instantly even with heavy shield on.Epic guns are easily farmable and to maintain ontop of ability to recoup losses easily in general by killing others who also have epic weapons,why bring a dogshit cumbersome torrente when bobcat is superior in everyway while barely more expensive to make and maintain?I dont feel much joy or interest in pvp engagements when there is 0 gun diversity and its people rushing or snap hooking to ur face with bobcat 0 recoil braindead hipfire spam.Shit is too cheap the mass duping era ruined whatever semblance of gear diversiry and general poorness that one should normally have...Bobcat does genuinly need a nerf but there are certain weapons who will still underperform and augment system is pve related not pvp really(wich im fine in tgat regard too) i just dont understand these devs desu,on stream they acknowledge the godcat spam while saying shit like oh bro arc shines best at those long range gun fights when in reality its pointless like how anon said where LoS loss is too easily to do and ur wasting time and effort and asking to get third manned...Ontop of the usual throw 2 smokes and rush em with bobcats ontop of snapping to their face.Maybe the rarity system got wrecked due to mass duping and wont recover unless a wipe happens but i do miss the olden days outside of venator and sticher pre nerf era the old il toro was at least relegated to stella only wich u could ignore and i did but i genuinly wish a form of gun variety back ngl it all feels generic and degenerate some engagements.
>>3150075Research on the dam, second floor- two dead flowers per run. On and inside desks, cabinets.
>>3151690enjoy your varying degrees of magdumping i guess
>>3149955
>>3151852that place rules, I'll check it out, thanks
>>3151984Its nice because search area is consolidated to one floor, unlike buried city Research, and Space Travel (two buildings, multiple floors)
New craphook tech!!!https://youtu.be/T8s9Ya58PkA?t=1722
>forgot I had crossplay on>got knocked out while crawling to hatch>check interactions>all console niggersyeah
ARCBROSthey put all that stupid event shit in the trader
new outfit
>>3152185everything "off"didnt realize there was a cloak that was already "off" so I'll include that as "on"
>>3152185>>3152191oh thats kind of cool, they even gave an option for "fringes" on the trenchcoatso the options for that are>trenchcoat>trenchcoat with fringes>offfeels kind of bulky, but i like the western vibe
>>3150706>And average TTK in EfT is 0.23 seconds - the only necessary assumption being that the gun+ammo combination is not invalidated by armor. So it's not half a second, and more like a full second difference, which is also 5-7 TIMES difference with AR.Ok so I am off by 0.3 seconds, that you think you can feel the difference is silly. Most humans can't even react to that in meanginful way. Count to 1, that is still extremely fast, one, dead.>Movement in EfT is explicitly way slower than AR.Why are you fixated on EfT? I said other games not EfT. >Why? What is wrong with a pink aug that just gives simple consistent advantages, assuming thatBecause you can leave that to the lower tier, think of how much the hook changes the game, the high tier should be equivalent to that, not shitty and boring bonuses.>Because hook is coolIt would not be a baseline because even if they grant full Assassin Creed movement to a maxxed movement tree, a snaphook still allows you to easily clear buildings not to mention people who chose the other truly game-altering trees would still need a hook.>Grinding out levels is not something that merits really substantial rewards.They should considering they promised trees that promote different gameplay and almost class-like differences. What unique and useful skill is a damn weapon bash in this game of long range death? Or being able to carry an extra 5 pounds or sprint just a little longer or a useless wall jump that when maxxed is like a 5% difference. Or a useless wall climb that is useful to maybe a couple loot spots, The devs promised meaningful trees with the revamp and its the same old trees with new useless skills. Yes they should be wacky and something cool as we were promised meaningful trees.
>>3151901>>3151901>magdump Gun 1>switch to Gun 2>magdump Gun 2Eeeh, I guess we need to nerf guns to the point where breakpoints are above two mags?Again, this does little to increase "victim agency". It would give a player more time to break contact, but a sweat PvP player will have 0 issues chasing and retaining minimal distance as you try to break. On the other hand, the victim will have an even harder time killing the aggressor, especially if the aggressor has two close range PvP guns to cycle instead of reloading while the victim doesn't.We know for a fact that it's minimal TTK, not maximum TTK, that makes playing field more even between high/low skill/gear players, as it makes even top sweats in endgame gear more vulnerable. But lower TTK would ruin the uniquenplaystyle that AR has, and it already leaves minimal opportunity for gear advantage.As far as fixing the game, I would argue that the thing that troubles you is not magdumps or TTK themselves, but getting rat jumped, and to alleviate that we need more tools for easier detection of ambushing players, and higher accessibility of those tools. Tagging grenade is trash because by the definition of it's utility, you throw it without knowing the exact location of the enemy, which inherently means that a substantial proportion of throws won't tag anything, which in turn means that a full stack of tagging grenades are likely to not return their cost in both resources and slot space. We need something more reliable to find rats in advance. If you where the rat is, you can avoid close range and so not get magdumped and killed in second.
>>3152356>Most humans can't even react to that in meanginful way>you think you can feel the difference is sillyAnon, if your reaction speed does not allow you to feel the difference between events that take 0,3 and 1.1 seconds then you are factually medically unsuited for driving a car on public roads in every country on Earth. >Why are you fixated on EfT?Because EfT and AR are teh Big Two of the genre, and EfT is the one title in which we have a substantial sample of data due to it's age. >Because you can leave that to the lower tierWhy? >the high tier should be equivalent to thatYou can have an effect of equivalent magnitude achieved through "boring" means. >It would not be a baselineIt would, because you have yourself described the desired capstone skill effect as similar in magnitude, and unlike gear, you can't lose skills and don't need mats to craft replacements.>they promised I don't care. I want a good game, not a marketed game. And even if I cared, I don't think I remember anyone actually promising that. >What unique and useful skill is a damn weapon bash It solves ticks, pops and glass without wasting shots or switching to a raider tool. If you don't see the value then it's on you. >Or being able to carry an extra 5 poundsBig for base mat farming. >or sprint just a little longerRunning On Fumes is not "just a little longer". >wall jump>wall climbThose are indeed fucking useless yes and they should replace them. Your argument on skills ultimately boils down to how it should be this way because you want it to. But you failed to illustrate exactly how it will produce a better experience.
>>3152518>Anon, if your reaction Have you seen how most people drive? They take 5 seconds to react to cars in front of them, I think its safe to say most people cant tell the difference between 0.3 or 1 second.>Because EfT and AR are teh I said other games not other extraction games, if you want to keep it to extraction, DMZ Marathon Sand Active Matter all move much faster than Arc to negate their quick TTK.>Why?To make the loot more fun and interesting, which is a substantial problem in the game, the boring loot.>You can have an effect of equivalent magnitude achieved through "boring" means.Buffing something like the combat to regen 10/s or whatever would still be boring and should have sometrhing that drastically changes how you play with the higher tier augs. It would make for a far more fun and interesting and good game.>It would, because you have yourself described the desired capstone skill effect as similar in magnitude, and unlike gear, you can't lose skills and don't need mats to craft replacements.It wont because there would be other skill trees that people would choose of equal importance so not everyone would choose the Assassin Creed tree. Again, the snap would still allow for faster movement than AC movement so not really much of a baseline than it is now, just another option in how to play as the hook will still be the best option overall.>It solves ticks, pops and glass without wasting shots or switching to a raider tool. If you don't see the value then it's on you.If you feel that is worth 30 skill points and fun to have then I can't argue against you.>But you failed to illustrate exactly how it will produce a better experience.Because the skills would drastically impact the game as it should, they admitted they didnt want the skill trees to be nothingburgers but then they "revamped" them to be nothingburger 2.0.
OHHHHHHthat random rumbling in the main screen? seems like people connect that to the turbine doing its thump, I can remember if the updates were close but I guess that makes more senseor they really were prepared for introducing the emperor as an enemy and then turned 90degrees another way
>>3152152I finished the project 2 days ago
>>3153196congratulations anon
>>3120026>Shinyatheninja dropped the evidence that Aimkey was cheating.r*ddit is now accusing shinya of cheating...
>>3153553i mean to be fair wtf is this shit? i like shinya but this is blantant.
>some middle-aged southern belle playing arc raiders for the trialshttps://youtu.be/brCFCFnhGrYthis is extremely funny to me
>>3153866just as bad is the part just before that where he perfectly orbits the guy behind the pillar and his aim jumps at the exact moment they go down
I like Natehill. Guy doesn't cheat. Doesn't beg viewers for drops. Chill vibes. Good looking and nice voice to listen to.
>>3153866Blatant. It explains why the faggot screeches when he loses.Personally On1c and B1onic were my favorites.
Metaforge is cooking, new 3d mapshttps://metaforge.app/arc-raiders/map/riven-tides/3d>>3153882>duos or triosYou didn't earn cantina legend.
>>3154994they have something that makes the outpost 3d
Holy shit trophy case project requires A LOT of drivers and reactors. All for the howl emote?Would you even do it when the Trader still has stash space to sell?
>>3155793still on the trophy project? that was months ago bro.
>>3152114>turn crossplay on>more fights and ambushes>turn crossplay off>fewer fights but so many people are cheaters, theres like a 30% chance I get it back
>>3155957nta but not everyone starts the game at the same time retard>>3155793the trader wasnt out when it released, howl emote is nice for pve because its funny
>almost 50% of the rounds played during the test were PvEdamn
>>3158529that's crazyI don't get it. fighting only arc gets old quickly, and the cooperation with other raiders (if it happens at all, tried it for a bit but in solos everyone was a mute loot goblin) doesn't feel special in this mode
>>3158529>everybody tries new thingthis is supposed to be impressive?
>>3159053thats YOU bronot everyone is YOUwhy is this such a hard concept to grasp for people>>3159209when its the whole week, yeabut pvpfags are retarded>I hate pve>I'm going to spend the whole week playing it
>>3159348thought this was legit, then someone pointed out the devs never talked about bullrush, so the OP said>Hey, you caught me! I actually used an AI assistant to help me summarize and clean up my notes before posting because I wanted to make a quick, readable breakdown for the sub.
>>3155957Yah, put the game down months ago, now playing an alt as primary (didnt do much except expand stash space to hold items for primary account).>>3157966You are right. I think trophy case was put out to sink component numbers and help take them out of the game. I think it came out just before or during drop nerfs for Arc components?
>>3159301>place where loot is free at the press of a button>WHY ARE PEOPLE PLAYING THISokay bro?
>>3159444>I think trophy case was put out to sink component numbers and help take them out of the gameprobably something like that, it was around one of the expeditions, and they have stats like 95% of people didnt do the expedition, so maybe a "sink" for them>>3159466weird because the other retard is saying its too boring to play and shouldn't be successfulyou guys are funny
>>3159472>boring and profitable are mutually exclusivelol retard
>>3159474yea its almost like you guys contradict each other, so funny how pvpfags go>I hate pve>actually I'll play it the whole week because loot is freewhen they played it the whole week to try and troll people, and then that backfired when the devs are like>wtf like half the matches were pve we cant ignore this now
>>3159479>strawmanRRREEEEETAAAARDDDDD
>>3159479>>I hate pve>>actually I'll play it the whole week>WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE DEVS TOOK THAT AS PVE WAS SUCCESSFULyep, its funny seeing it
>>3159485you might be dunning kruger yourself into thinking your smart, because1 didnt do thatand 2 even if I did, thats not how you use that phrase, thats how retards do it, just letting you know so you can maybe evaluate yourself
Ok guys, how you (YOU) change the skill trees? Completely change the entire thing? Make it more class like? Only change a couple of skills? Leave it as is?What would you change it to if you did want to make it more class like? Some type of juggernaut tree? Sneaking tree?
>>3159474Anon it's a vidja game. There is no profit to be had playing it aside from fun. >>3159748>Only change a couple of skills? I'd squeeze all the walljump/wallrun/vault skills and height-drop skills into one each to make either less dogshit. Beyond that skills are ok.
>>3159748I would change itidk to whatand it feels like the devs dont want to touch it or regret it>yea guys heres your skill tree revamp>its just the same shitI know they added new stuff, but you're kind of getting the same exact complaints as before>there literally only a couple of builds you make otherwise you are fucking yourself overnot really much customization or individuality, which sucks, most I've experience is some poeple take wall run and some dont, I used wallrun a ton, swapped off it, and dont feel like I notice a difference
>>3159889>There is no profit to be had playing it aside from fun.people still do it, ask them instead of methis entire thread waves off the incentives part of the game and all of you are retarded for itpeople WILL optimize the fun out of the game and the mechanics need to accommodate for it>>3159748up the power level of both the skill tree and augments significantly where they are of major consideration to your playstyle and the enemies that encounter youthe way it is now is people just opt for BIS stat increases because the options that actually change how you approach your raids are so niche and insignificant you basically end up never using anything outside of theorycrafted bullshit>just shoot your gunhas to go; more things need to be centered around actual utility and not cope-tier shit like "20% faster holster speeds" and "5% faster slide speed"give me a fucking remote camera or a dbno shield or the ability to dual-wield hairpins or something else anything actually intertesting that makes me go "holy shit you can do that???"
>>3159971you sound like a moron if you think "the thread" is some hivemind
>>3160174>i deserve to be treated personally even if im regurgitating the same dogshit everyone else doesno
>>3160240>strawmanok
>>3160242whatever makes u hppy bub
>>3160247now I think you're just projecting, I guess you're one of those fags who is like>if I reply last, I won that debate in my headlol
>>3159902>I used wallrun a ton, swapped off it, and dont feel like I notice a differenceyeah its so limited in it uses, you go up an extra two feet on a wall. then, on top of that even if was going up 10 feet up a wall, why use it when you can just use a snaphook anyways? not to mention most maps you wont be able to utilize the skill anyways.
>>3160269yea there were a couple spots where I was like>thats coolbut I just carry a grappling hook with me at the minimum now
just got this shorthttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/3oWFURUNTPwits titled: Topside Nemeisis, and it goes through showing a bunch of arc and then a raider at the end, might just be a cool short and being like "raiders are the real bad guys amiright"but he kind of gives off an arc vibe, maybe they are trying to see if they can make enemy player AI
>>3159971>people still do itTheir problem.
>>3160408>just stop caringthat doesn't fix the problem>replying to a funfagmy mistake assuming you knew what you're talking about
>>3160433>just stop caringI specifically did not state what you should. I said it's their (implicitly (you)rs) problem.
>>3160454>every retard itt is stuck on meaningless semanticswhy do i even bother
>>3160484Don't. Go away. Watch a stream. Drink a cup of tea. Fuck yourself with a baseball bat. Buy some groceries.
>>3160496>Watch a streamgay
>>3160484sadly this fuckass site has tons of these assholes, it must be the new thing. all these fuckers are turning into those "um actually" fucks>asian men are shorter on average>UM ACTUALLY I READ ABOUT YAO MING ONCE SO IM RIGHT AND YOU WRONG AND I WIN
>>3160509i just want a genuine reply for onceim convinced shit's not even trolling atp, everyone just dances around the main point being madecoy little niggers
>>3160344yep exactly. according to the devs own interview way back>I don’t think by any means we nailed it’: Arc Raiders design director says ‘significant changes’ are coming to the skill tree> “So do I want to be the sneaky looter or the guy who wants to be super agile and maneuver around and things like that?>“Can the skill tree, with its composition, paired with things like augments and your preference for weapons, as well as the gadgets you choose and the grenades and things you might bring, can that help all come together to form a play style for you?,”Things like having more stamina and breaching faster isn't a "playstyle" Having very situational skills that are not cohesive and dont really gel well is not a playstyle. They really need to go back and rethink the entire thing.>>3160357We need super battle droid equivalent for indoors. Imagine a light armor droid that can take cover and suppressive fire you with no wind-up. Imagine a droid that walks you down with its heavy armor like a bully and lays down suppressive fire. Indoor arc badly need a changeup because shredders are a massive joke.
>>31605284chan just sucks for that, since they can easily post their opinion and its not tied to any identity they have IRL, I browse a couple generals and if these shitposters didnt have different habits, I would have assumed its the same loserthe arc raiders reddit is the same way, those people just like what amounts to Verbal PvP where they think conversations are lines of dialogue, and if they can just get in one "gotcha" then they winlike>this game is so deadno its not>it lost 90% of its players thats deadthats disingenuous, and you obviously dont understand statistics>actually, pve mode is bad and will kill this gamebut you just said this game was dead, and repeating that for like the last 6 months>because I'm a pvpfag and this affects my lobbiesisnt this good for pvpfags>actually I'm a pvpve fag and heres a reason I read on reddit on why its badbut they patched that out months ago>actually I quit the game 2 months after it came out, so I'm just larping and have been repeating what I read on reddit for the last yearoh
>>3160716>he says all that after repeating the dancing in his wall of examplesoh ma GAWD
>>3160729because its true, at this point seen it way too many times for arc raiders and tangentially in other gamespeople aren't having genuine conversations with other people, fags are going "um actualy" and being as bad faith as possible, to win some videogame conversation onlineI assume for a fun game they were invested in at one point, and are now just invested in shitting it up, people have started pointing out there is a weird crowd of "gamers" right now that are intent on destroying games they dont participate in
>>3160755you're not addressing the main point of any of the examples you've provided and just going>this is good for you, actuallyironic, but please stfu
>>3160785never said thatdumbfuckkeep being a disingenuous piece of shit
>>3160790>this retard ITT stuck on meaningless semanticsWhy do I even bother?
I can't find this info anywhere, how do you get Matriarch Reactors after the update?The only drop ARC Alloys now, such a stupid change.
>>3166153you have to actually destroy the legs themselves. they drop the part, not the shot off leg armor. but realistically, it takes forever to shoot off a leg so wait until the matriarch is almost dead and snap onto it for max cores.
>>3166153you have to actually kill it now
>>3166153thieving faggot
>>3166153Just wanted to let you know that I took a shit in your mom's mouth.
>>3168058shooting the legs off instead of the core makes you a thief, it contributes nothing to the fight
>>3168298good, fuck pvpfags
>>3168403>from crying to celebratingand this is why everybody hates you
>>3168266putting zero effort in and taking the cores makes you a thiefif you were putting active effort into shooting the legs and taking the cores that's just playing the mechanics the game gave you"the fight" as in actually killing it didn't really matter before, and it was the devs fault not the players that people acted that way
>>3168500whatever makes you feel better, nigger
>get a whopping two couriers on pendola pass>night raid rarely fucking happensbravo
>>3168266fastest way to shoot off legs? i was thinking grapple hook onto queen and using torrente.
>>3168416only pvpfags have been crying nonstop
>>3168573just killing itnever seen a leg actually fall off, because people just focus on killing the thing and looting after
>>3168600yeah but i want to guarantee my core. nobody will be expecting a leg to drop off and will be far away. everyone will close in on the queen when it starts to smoke.
>>3168573I wouldn't know, I'm not a nigger
>>3168619you just have to get lucky, the meta is standing near her and waiting for her to die, even if you broke it from a distance people would see and scramble for it
Anyone else actually enjoying the Outpost building? Gives a surprisingly satisfying side quest to the rest of the progression. If they ever make it so you can walk around an outpost with your party that will be pretty cozy. I wonder if we can explore the outside valley area too
So. What exactly are harvesters harvesting? Where are the Emperors taking the harvestor pods, what are they doing with them? What does the Assessor do? What does the Surveyor do? What is a turbine doing that is different from an assessor or harvestor? if queens guard harvestors what are Matriarchs doing?
>>3171186To an extent, yeah. I wish you could change the buildings and move the camera around a bit, but I'm slowly filling it up.>>3171436ARC are definitely human-made so it's probably the humans that left during the Exodus that want a clean and empty planet to come back to. Could also be rogue AI still going by itself after the Exodus humans died or some shit.
>>3171436none of this is confirmed>harvesterspeople theorize oxygen or other minerals>emperors taking the podsto space>what are they doing with themif they have materials it lets them build in space, which is why people think its that>surveyorI assume call in the assessors is their main function, on scrutiny they emit a red beam that calls down the assessorwhy they dont do that on normal maps? maybe has to be an ideal location or something>turbinepeople theorize that its looking for where our base is, its why the main screen was thumping when they first arrived, because when a turbine lands it thumps every 15 seconds or something, people are guessing its using like underground echolocation looking for structures>how are turbine/assessor/harvestor differentseems like turbine is searching for underground baseassessor, must be assessing something, maybe thats for above ground base? but it has those 3 probes that get sent up, maybe its just informationand harvestor is the minerals theory>queen vs matriarchactually no idea, i guess queen guards harvestor, and matriarch is just a big arc that roams around like a bastion or something, since there is no harvester on those events
>>3171951Do we know if what/whoever is sending the Arc to Earth is human or not?Wasn't there some theory that Raiders are the humans left behind after some kind of disaster happened and (((rich fags))) left the planet? I think I read that somewhere.
>>3172128no confirmation but most people are pretty sure, there are like warning symbols in those crashed arc probes, and ladders in the emperorand yea current theory is that there was a some ecological disaster, like all that sand on spaceport and buried is from the ocean evaporating and thats all the sand at the bottom, spaceport has hints that there were "exodus" people who planning to leave, they probably did, theres graffiti in buried city like "only the rich escaped" or something, and now they are coming back to live here again, like one quest was checking out the "Deforestors" which feels like its hinting>rich fags send deforestors>some 3rd faction, likely kept evolving their tech, in blue gate/stella have advanced weaponry that can kill deforestorsand then theres us
>20+ harvesters opened>0 blueprints foundFucks sake
>>3172271I have both BPs if you want.
>load into Pendola Pass with old town key>naturally spawn on opposite end of map>room is already looted>loot around old town anyway and get a stool design, the legendary chandelier design, and the circular couch designNice!
>>3171436They're all taking resources. It is up for debate whether the humans who left are still alive and the AI is doing its job regardless if theyre alive.>>3171718>ARC are definitely human-made so it's probably the humans that left during the Exodus that want a clean and empty planet to come back to. Could also be rogue AI still going by itself after the Exodus humans died or some shit.I forget which video I watched but apparently there are signage written in either italian or english inside the emperor. Not to mention stuff like ladders being present in the emperor and everything being relatively human-sized.
Got the project done. Wew
>>3173151oh yea, I should probably log in and do trials and finish that upanyone know where you get that broken mask or whatever, the pink trinket
>>3173292They’re scattered around Pendola, look around old town there’s a market next to the hotel at the southwest section of old town it spawns in fairly consistent but just search any high loot area of Pendola. Same goes for the fancy dish
>>3171436It's Ergo Proxy, but with DJI Maviks instead of sad gay bishounen.
>>3171186not being able to walk into the outpost and chandeliers not actually providing light (why is one of the buildings pitch fucking dark in the first place) kills any interest i have for it, the only positive is me being able to store a shit ton of high value trinkets for the expedition
>>3171186Not even a little bit
>>3174331they are working on that, but knowing them that will be in the next major update in like 6 months
>>3174682I do wonder what is in the next update. Probably factions and the social hub. Otherwise they really need to add more content and fix the balancing and progression systems of the game.
>>3174897feels like they need to add the amplification modules to other maps somehowpeople dont really do the frigateemperor is ok, but you just kind of solo itotherwise you dont touch amp gunsthey probably want more people interacting with that system if its supposed to be endgame, currently there is no incentive and its a closed loop where you end up not interacting with the regular maps
>>3174331Yeah the chandelier is perfect for the Chalet room and provides zero light. Kek, bravo embark
>>3174903Yeah they just need to add the amplification parts (maybe modules as well) to big arc and maybe rare drops in couriers. Kinda dumb that the Emperor is the sole source where you have to go for anything amplification related
>>3174912that would be cool if they have a chance to replace cells, you would come across them randomly while playing before "endgame", they'd be good value too they're like double 1 cell if you sell it and can be used at the tradercan also help just for repairing, kill a few big arc and you can repair your amped gunand if your serious about making an amped gun/repairing it, then you just run emperor.feels like it would fit with the game
>>3174903>feels like they need to add the amplification modules to other maps somehowyeah they do. when they keep adding more maps its like you said, its a dead loop. maybe if they shift all that stuff onto the frigate because at least the frigate rotates on all maps, but its not like youre acually playing on the maps themselves, youre playing on the frigate so basically limiting the map pool to like 2 maps at best. and youd need to go often because of how quickly the guns break and how much resources you need to run them.
>>3175570they must want the whole lobby to compete on frigate, you can kind of do it solo, but compared to emperor it doesnt seem like its worthand remember they nerfed frigate loot
>>3174912Its the perfect opportunity for Dumbark to add loot spots to the Queen and the Matriarch Ala Bombardeer and Bastion. There is so little to loot on those big Arc its ridiculous.
>>3159971Touch grass incel.
>>3176856>t. whore
oh nice we get an update todayRaiders! Update 2.5.0 is going live right now with two new colour variants for the Vanguard Set (Orange and Black/White). No restart required!See you Topside,The ARC Raiders Teamoh
>>3178430How do they look?
apparently nexon is in trouble, the publishergood new is they are happy with Arc Raiders, unsurprising since its probably made them like 20mil by now
>>3178601Black and white variant looks like a skeleton. Orange is whatever
>>3178430Are the new quests still bugged?
>>3180173Devs are on 3 week vacation so probably
>easiest trials of all time when i’ll be out of town for a week
>>3180667just got 6000 pts for killing a turbine and then 6000 pts for using a hullcracker
I NEED PLANKSI NEED SHEET METAL
>>3180738they are available for seeds at the ugly trader
Its Over Raiders
>>3180869I must have spent 400 sneeds on that bitch for outpost material by now
We might need a new thread soon.
they really spent 6 months on a map and the frigate, dropped that shit and disappearedthis game really is dead in the waterthere was ZERO player retention after the big update as we're back to just 30k daily playersand we're not getting anything new until April next yeargenuinely what are they doing with this game? are they selling enough new copies that they don't have to care about player retention?
migrate>>3183100>>3183100>>3183100Also EZ dubs for /arg/