Reminder that only browns have any qualms with the game's design choices. You don't want to be brown, do you?

>spellblade gets gate at 50, never gets soulbind, has no ports, has no exodus or emergency evacs, has no 15 second immunities or FD's, has no invis or illusions

this is the most retardedly designed class I've ever seen, you are squishier than a rogue but with absolutely nothing to save your ass and not even a shred of utility outside of DPS. no wonder its bottom of the barrel along with archer.

unironically these sorts of massive imbalances might make me take a break, albeit with me not even knowing if the game will be alive next time I check in.

>>3101416
spellblade is the top dps so makes sense it has no utility

>>3101432
Different anon, spellblade needs some utility. at very very least give it shroud of the magi and blink.

the real question is when is this game gonna add aoe spells for me and my homeboyzzz

>the resident dev ball washer is a geriatric sexpat who can't afford to fuck a white woman
casual racists make me sick, I work hard to be a professional racist and I get lumped in with the same people who call you brown yet pay browns money to touch their shriveled circumcised penis

>>3101524
Wdym, wizards and druids at the very least get some nukes. Fighter gets aoe melee attacks too, and Bard gets aoe damage songs. The capacity for aoe is there, it's just pure shit to play the game without mezzing adds and assist training down nerds one at a time because that's how we did it in eq

>>3101432
it at bare minimum needs invis at level 8, the DPS isn't that good, it can't solo or anything.

>>3101541
>and Bard gets aoe damage songs.
source?

>>3101541
bard doesn't get aoe damage songs, unlike in Everquest, because without exaggeration everything that was fun in Everquest is nerfed here in the name of friction.

>>3101547
the dps cracks at 45, a geared spb will shred at 60

>>3101547
how high the dps is has nothing to do with soloability in this game

spellblade is just a crappy enhance shaman

>>3101548
>>3101559
I guess I was wrong, I thought they did because of swarm kiting

>>3101564
that's cool and all but it's more dependent on groups than enchanters, i can't even imagine playing a spellblade without a dedicated group of irl friends who coordinate constantly.

>>3101581
That is every class but necro and bard though

>>3101581
about the same as fighters and rogues. Spellblades get shields with low cooldowns and can just blow mana to not lose health. Pair that with high dps and they can solo in tight spaces while classes like rangers, necros, wizards, and druids need room to move around.

>>3101586
i have bad news about their shields.

>>3101593
shouldve used a twohander retards!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>3101593
i mean you're not going to be cheesing even matched stuff but you need to kill lower stuff that you can't kite around that would fuck any non pet class over you can do it

the real reason to not play spellblade is high elves not being in. if wood elf class quests are any indication, your class quest will give you something retarded that will be BIS for 40 levels, like a sword that has lifetap or something.

Druids!

>>3101687
need a major buff

>>3101687
The worst class in the game

>>3101286
imagine answering a poll that not only calls you a mutt but asks you to confirm the title. 21 of you should be ashamed of yourselves.

we don't realize it right now, but this will be the last thread

>>3101803
I'll happily play with you faggots in Adrullan.

>>3101803
We will live on in Adrullan Online

>>3101803
but im not even level 30 yet...

>>3101816
>>3101817
>flash test before the upcoming test
O_O

It'll never cease to be amusing just how much the few P99 raidtards left seethe over Quarm.

torn on if I want to continue levelling my necro or inquisitor, both are level 7 which I know isn't a high level but it took a decent amount of time to get there on both of them

>level 11 chanter
>can't find groups
?????????

>>3101977
only a necro main would waffle this hard over a simple choice

>>3101939
Quarm is dead too.

>>3101977
Do you want to spend the rest of your life in duo camps because nobody wants your slow DPS or do you want to be the embodiment of desire?
Also quiz takes skill. It's the least afk class in the game.

>>3101977
why not both. use one to feed the other loot assuming you actually get any.

earlier someone had a breastplate for sale that wasnt even on the wiki, and it had really nice stats. it was called like river-iron rusted chestplate or something

>>3101934
Tell me more I don't see anything on their site talking about a flash test

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Would you kind gentlenons help me finish my shitty annotation of BTB's map, please? I'm still missing locations for
>a Fellstone ritualist
>a swarm leader
>a frenzied ratman
>an orc supplier
>an acolyte of Visru
>Bloodchain Champion

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>>3102508
Bloodchain Champion is in the room with 3 doors(W/S/NE) SE from the broken bridges/Gurowl.

>friends list full of people who largely liked the game is growing massively sparser
the fanbase can circle the wagons all they want, but if this continues much more nobody who isn't a NEET will be able to play due to LFG times spiraling into the multihour range.

>wood elf bard starter quest
>go kill spiders to get batches of pixie dust among other things for the turn in
>collect six eyes
>heres ur pixie dust :^)
>you need two for the quest
the quests in this game are unironically some of the least fun ones I've ever seen in an MMO, and that's already a low bar.

>>3102603
you don't understand, they just weren't True Believers so they are bad people who should go back to WoW already

>>3102603
I saw 10 ppl in game the last 3 days quit in chat over corpse runs alone.

20+ more unique names quiting in youtube comments bc of high level camping low level or the game just hating them too much even in tiny areas like the UI/UX.

90% of the M&M streamers I've listened to quit after 1-2 weeks out of sheer boredom. After lvl 20-24 the grind becomes unbearable or the gameplay too boring idk just they report it becomes really boring. Maybe bc group wait times become too long.

And seems at least 30% of all players in game ooc, yt channels, yt chat, and reddit since Day 1 are all going to unsub to play WoW Forever. They say they will come back later to check M&M out again.

M&M will not be around anymore when they're done with WoW Forever.

>>3102633
i just saw a guy quit bc shawn banned a few archers without any warning bc they used their bows according to their class ability strengths rather than reading shawn's mind how he wanted them to play. the fanboys got pretty angry at him and the youtuber who criticized the devs.

>>3102633
the game already lost 27% of its subs and they expect 50% by the end of the month. they really went through all this work to recreate p99 including its total playerbase(probably less.)

>>3102647
Ohhh i saw that too on the discord. I smiled when he said they cant use the excuse "this game isnt for you" when the people complaining are everquest veterans. The community is gonna be their own downfall. They say go back to wow but ironically thats actually where everyone is gonna goto. It'll be like everquest all over again when WoW comes out and everyone leaves.

>how was i supposed to know that using geometry to clearly bug out enemies from reaching me wasn't intended gameplay
darksydephil replacing his aq40 files

>>3102647
I still can't believe that actually happened, the class literally has skills that mechanically encourage you to fire from both higher ground and concealed positions. The archers who got banned probably thought that they were playing the way the game intended, by killing enemies from unreachable places with clever positioning.

Instead, like the anon who got banned for making spider silk hats, you just get fucked for actually coming up with clever things in the sandbox.

>>3102647
i reported at least 5 of these guys btw

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The amount of copper I need is fucking insane dude

>>3102651
Me and my wife just canceled. I see tons of people canceling 2-5+ accounts together.
>husband and wife
>dad mom and two adult kids
>five player buddies
>entire guilds which planned to quit when WoW Forever comes out but quit 2 weeks early
But Shawn really likes high levels camping low level games!!
>friction
Sometimes I wonder if the only friction he likes is the friction or jacking off trolling a bunch of p1999 players by giving them exactly what they want then seeing it fail and everyone crying
>>3102660
Yea banning ppl bc they didnt play Everquest in 1999 and dont know what to expect from your niche game isnt the flex you think it is. The only person youre hurting is you by approving insane no-warning bans and driving away new players telling them to "get gud".

All the people who unsub bc of the bad design you refuse to admit or the insane decisions by the devs or your toxic defensiveness? They arent hurt. They get to be happy bc they arent playing your game anymore.

You are the only one hurt by them leaving. Your game is now smaller. Your wait times longer. Your population and funding dying. And 3-6 months from now you might not have a game bc you told everyone else you didnt want or need them.

>>3102674
you didn't need to play everquest in 99 to realize that becoming functionally godmode was an unintended gameplay element. also i am not hurting because like you i hate the devs of this game. i just don't care about people who blatantly cheated in a manner that was obviously exploitative and unintended.

>>3102660
you're still sperging out about this? just accept that you and the devs are in the wrong, the devs even had to release a massive damage control statement about this.

>>3102668
That doesnt matter. It doesnt make me mad you reported them despite them being innocent. It isnt a flex worth doing either.

You dont matter.
The high level 30 in a levep 8 camp who /tell you "This is my camp. Play nice or I report!" are jerks yes but they dont matter.

The asshole players arent the problems.

The devs who say this is intended so get gud but then that isnt intended so ban.

The subscribers who cancel or call their credit card company to do a chargeback refund bc Shawn expects you to read his mind on how to play properly.

That's the issues.

something that has been striking to me from lurking in the community spaces for this game has been that outside of maybe this thread, almost every single frothing defender for the game is maybe level 20 max currently and is talking authoritatively about flat delusional shit like about how rangers can solo and everything is fine and dandy.

>>3102681
>you didn't need to play everquest in 99 to realize that becoming functionally godmode was an unintended gameplay element
What is it like going through life with this hard of an intellectual disability?

A professional company taking money needs to form their policy around the concept of "What if this is the person's very first video game, ever?" Assuming some weird niche norm from MMO games made in the 90's when this is INTENDED GAMEPLAY for most singleplayer games, is just freakin deranged.

Why not just offer to blow Shawn if youre this upset over criticism of his deranged no-warning bans?

Oh wait...is your intellectual disability why you love M&M? A NEET on disability who is fine with losing 7 out of 24 hrs a day and always angry wanting someone banned for something bc you are born disabled. Nevermind.

>NEETs in Disability payments arent rich enough to fund your dream mmorpg
uh oh I think Shawn is in trouble guys...

>>3102713
Nobody installing monsters and memories is playing their first video game ever.

>" Assuming some weird niche norm
Lots of modern mmorpgs have ways to prevent this exact scenario from happening. Its usually by introducing jank of letting mobs clip through geometry or gain extended reach or just rapidly regenerating when its not possible to navigate to the target. Personally I think they failed by not solving it mechanically but I can get "why" these retards did that. It is immersion breaking to have your faggot swashbuckler run through the void to hit you.


>professional

You are the idiot who got banned for botting aren't you? You struggle with the concept of fairness because you are spiritually indian and don't see an issue with something that is self evident cheating. I know you are stupid but you could at least read the part of the post where I said I don't like this game or at least infer it from my dislike of the devs.

>>3102729
>Nobody installing monsters and memories is playing their first video game ever.
anon was right about your intellectual disability. corporate policy being written as if thats the case is good policy. he wasnt saying thats the case retard lul

>>3102729
you m&m fanboys seem extra retarded

>>3102735
are you guys also the same morons who think you got robbed when you cant say the n word in a videogame? there is no need for assumptions of innocence or ignorance when it comes to certain things. selling your spider hat for 10x what it cost to make is clearly not intended when everything else is a net loss.

>>3102713
>A NEET on disability
mother fucker i had nothing to do with this!

all the complaining about camping, and bad behavior, and friction.

and I can only wonder, how is it that despite this I simply can no longer find groups? if I was schizophrenic I would wonder if I somehow got shadowbanned in game, but no, half my friends list appears to no longer come online over the past 3 days.

>people are defending the Archer bans
Isn't this supposed to be a classic era sandbox MMO? Cliff sniping was a core part of the hunter experience in RO.

>>3102758
devs must never have played in Black Burrow or Velks Lab. you can cliff snipe the hell out of things in those places and its almost impossible not to.

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>>3102758
this game isn't a sandbox MMO, it's a nothing simulator. it exists as a purely contrarian endevor, created by psueds who don't actually play the product they design for despite much bluster, shaped by a playerbase addled by nostalgia for a past that has become so warped it has drifted from reality.

"We did that in EQ" is the retort, until they nerf classes wholesale in the name of friction. "Go back to WOW" is the insult, until they lift entire systems from it in the name of friction. And so it goes, this game is quite literally not designed to be played by humans. The experience is so viscerally unpleasant and unfun that it's meant to exist as an object that people can gesture to as a "Real Gamer" credential.. It's a thinkpiece, a piece of artistic excess and wankery, and aside from the Star Citizen like fanbase it will be remembered a year from now exclusively in the framing of cautionary tales.

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>the n word
amazing how anybody who says this instead of just saying nigger never has had anything useful or insightful to say, ever

one of you absolutely got banned for being a moral fiber lacking shithead. oh my days.

>>3102774
>oh my days

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>>3102758
What really blows me the fuck away is how they have literal skills that reward you for shooting from a high place, but when they can't code a monster to pursue you to a high place, that's your fault for being a bug exploiter
Their chums who were killing mobs that had half the hp of normal a week into the game and bullying everyone else out of the zone? That's fine, we just had to change the mobs (read: pull up the ladder) as soon as they were done, is all

>>3102713
>A professional company taking money needs to form their policy around the concept of "What if this is the person's very first video game, ever?"
No, they don't.

>>3102774
niggers will never be human
die mad about it

>>3102783
please don't be so mean to yourself nonny.

>>3102786
did you genuinely think this was witty enough to post? i'd be embarrassed if this was the best i could do desu

>>3102788
u are rubber. i am glue. im not banned unlike you.

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>>3102796
genuinely i think it'd be a kindness to be banned from mnm, nobody should subject themselves to an anti-game like this
i just got a refund instead, maybe i should have went down slinging n bombs but truthfully i was just appalled that they actually shipped this fucking game in this state

>>3102742
>devs banned a guy for selling a hat he crafted for too much money
>devs banned multiple archers for playing as archers were intended to be played
>devs made a game clone of a gam3 which half its core design is the fun of players exploiting the game to get massive advantages
>biggest hot button issue is everyone furious high levels exploit low levels
>n-no but not THAT kind of exploit! only the exploits i want!
I dont get it bc it isnt even consistent.

>>3102660
some mmos literally just let to kill enemies with ranged attacks where they are incapable of hitting you its actually not a good argument to say you should know getting an enemy stuck on terrain is not allowed.

>>3102782
>devs should warn players who are unaware of the rules instead of banning them instantly for not reading shawns mind
Why do people like you exist? I dont get it. What is the point of dick riding shawn when he hates you?

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>>3102872
He doesn't hate me, I'm not a cheater.

>>3102866
BANNED WITHOUT WARNING
Next time, you need to think twice before refusing to mindread Shawn by sucking his cock on stream.

>>3102876
>You have been banned.
>Reason: You didnt play the way I imagined.
>GM Travis
Just wait it's already happening.

>>3102866
yes we know ragnarok lets your archer shoot mobs from inaccessible positions because they couldn't figure out how to fix the path finding or didn't see this as an issue. name five other mmorpgs that let you do this bonus points if they're not from 2000. the reality is as the other anon unintentionally explained anybody can see this is clearly not intended. if a named spawns and doesn't actually attack you back its obviously not something intended.
"what if it was their first game"- even a child in a single player game would be able to extrapolate this scenario and put himself in the other position and realize something unfair is occurring. these things are not very complicated unless you drink cow piss.

>>3102888
The more you whine, the more I'm sure the PNP is a good idea. Apparently, it's very effective at filtering out brown people.

>>3102893
We did that in EQ.

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>>3102900
>leave in an obvious exploit to catch all the nonwh*tes who somehow got past the monthly fee because you know they are too stupid to avoid it
i kneel shawngawd

>>3102910
>u are rubber. i am glue
>i
You know you're not fooling anyone, right?

>>3102893
Ultima Online allowed this hard. Teleport to spot. Kill high level wyrm as newbie. Win.

DAoC allowed this with PvP. Archers and Wizards killed every melee class who approached the wall with full immunity.

You seem like a retard.

>>3102913
the game is simple, you can play it with one hand while eating a sandwich. but you would dare to come and do such a profane act that allowed you to eat a sandwich with two hands?

>>3102893
>anybody can see this is clearly not intended.
>even a child in a single player game would be able to extrapolate this scenario
this might be the dumbest post ive read all week

>>3102927
>game from 1998
>pvp game
yeah and shadowbane let me walk through or fly over walls what is your point retard. it is almost like that was a deliberate design decision.

>>3102934
>name other games where this wasnt an exploit
>lists multiple games pre 2000
>w-whats ur point?!?!?!
Retardation. Cope.

>>3102970
you could only name two and one of them was one of the first graphical mmorpgs in existence and the other clearly intended for the interacton to happen between two players.

the issue isn't that the pathfinding or geometry doesn't work, its that it creates and rewards non gameplay. its obviously broken to anybody with a functioning brain.

>>3102766
>created by psueds who don't actually play the product they design
This is the biggest issue with mnm. Shawn doesn't make a game he wants to play he makes a game he imagines he wants to play without actually doing so.