>>3179013
anon glitchwave isn't an issue for lights, it's a much bigger shutdown to heavy than light by a metric tonne

Man because of me grinding for the Iseult-T rewards it took a lot from me and now I just want to do dailies and fuck off the game. Not even excited getting near completion for the AKM Mythic skin.

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light is love, light is life.

>>3179203
no one's buying your grift, anon

>>3179496
>thinks I'm grifting
anon... I...

>>3179496
>disabling every defensive tool of the anchor character with the biggest hitbox and lowest DPS is somehow not worse than the guys who can 100 to 0 in half a second despite having their dash disabled
Yeah okay dude.
NTA, but I take it you don't actually use them and wouldn't know.

>>3181060
This is, again, hard proof that it's just lights false flagging
>disabling every defensive tool
Heavies don't crutch on their spec to survive like Lights do, and Heavies have already adapted to using more goo instead of barricades to avoid having any of their defensive setups being affected by Shockwave. Shockwave also does nothing to stop things like already deployed Dome Shields, which any Heavy that relies on that shit will have it tossed before the shockwave projectile takes its 5 years to fly across to them.
>lowest DPS
This is the part where you really expose that you're just lying out your ass. Heavies have the best TTK in the entire game. Even weapons deliberately designed to be as exceptionally slow like the KS-23 will still beat out every single Light gun except the Double Barrel (and even then it's only by like, 0.10s), and generally win against most Medium guns (it beat just about every single one of them too until Respec happened)

To even say something as ridiculous as you just have is to project your experience as a Light onto Heavy: i.e. playing the actual low DPS class and thinking Heavy's damage is shit because your aim is. You're just used to being able to make up for it with the ability to disengage and much tighter recoil guns.

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>>3181165
>Heavies don't crutch on their spec to survive like Lights do
Never claimed that, but you also never see mesh shield anymore because there's a button that outright disables it making it effectively a dead choice.
>and Heavies have already adapted to using more goo instead of barricades to avoid having any of their defensive setups being affected by Shockwave.
Wow, they adapted to all of their defensive tools being made useless and now bring goo which is significantly worse than what their other options were prior. Lights BTFO.
>Shockwave also does nothing to stop things like already deployed Dome Shields, which any Heavy that relies on that shit will have it tossed before the shockwave projectile takes its 5 years to fly across to them.
Shitter mentality, shockwave isn't being thrown from across the map, no one is reactive throwing down dome shield to counter it, and dome shield used defensively is significantly worse than offensively.
>This is the part where you really expose that you're just lying out your ass. Heavies have the best TTK in the entire game.
Haha, you see heavies are the best because they have le minigun and ks23which has lower TTK than virtually every other weapon because you're a mathlet

I don't think you're able to look at this from an objective lens, your anti-light autism blinds you to the reality of the games current balance state. You can just say you like shockwave because it makes a certain subsect of bad players angry.

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>>3181207
>which has lower TTK
Higher TTK*
Here's a quick comparison google brought up; I presume you only pay attention to things that kill dem der lights fasterest.

>>3181207
>Never claimed that
You outright claimed that Heavy dies quick without his defensive options while trying to say Light beams others instantly even without dash, so yeah, you did
>Wow they adapted to all their defensive tools
Not what I said
>goo which is significantly worse
shitter detected
>shockwave isn't being thrown from across the map
Not what I said
>no one is reactive throwing down dome shield to counter it
Correct, but instead because those that take Dome Shield are reactively throwing it down against EVERYTHING, and they honestly do it fast enough that the only way a Medium can glitch them before it comes out is if they're already face tanking (at which point it's advantage Heavy anyways)
>Haha, you see heavies are the best because they have le minigun and ks23
This sent me over the edge and you've genuinely pissed me the fuck off, well done.

But no, that's not what I said.
What I said is that the KS-23 is Heavy's SLOWEST gun, and that even then, it is faster than Light's guns and still challenges Medium's despite Respec tipping the scales this season. Even at his WORST, Heavy is quicker at killing than the other two classes, so of course: the point is that HIS ACTUALLY GOOD GUNS are even faster.

So no, it's not because they have the KS-23
It's because the KS-23 is already good BUT THEN THEY HAVE A TON OF SHIT THAT'S EVEN WAY BETTER THAN IT, YOU FUCKING MONGOLOID

Kill yourself. There is no progression to this conversation beyond this point. Reply whatever you want, say whatever you want, go ahead and go point by point again with your BS again if you want, but this is my only stance from here on out: you should throw yourself off a bridge.

>>3181235
>You outright claimed that Heavy dies quick without his defensive options
The claim is, and I quote
>disabling every defensive tool of the anchor character with the biggest hitbox and lowest DPS
Nothing I stated was untrue.
>Light beams others instantly even without dash
Yes, their guns do good damage regardless if they've been shockwaved.
>heh, I'll just take what you said and throw it back at you but also here's my retarded mental gymnastics
Yeah okay dude.
>This sent me over the edge and you've genuinely pissed me the fuck off, well done.
Something tells me that's not a difficult thing to achieve judging by how mentally raped you are by lights, but also argue that they're weak and you need an imbalanced mess of a specialization to compete.

>>3181246
>doesn't fight the claim of being a shitter
checkmate

>>3179478
light is cute

>>3181060
>heavy
>lowest dps
Reddit heavy detected kill yourself

>>3181246
>Nothing I stated was untrue.
read >>3182291

Heavy's effective DPS is lower when you consider that in a fight you are much more likely to be at a health disadvantage on top of missing movement options for when an enemy just pulls any sort of evasive action. The M60 requires you to track a target for a while before the recoil stabilizes and the KS requires good aim in general. Add the fact that your hitbox is huge while your target's is actually smaller and you can see how you don't tend to fare too well in fights unless you have massive backup, something other classes don't necessarily have to rely on.

>>3182715
also consider slower health regen and the biggest health regen delay and you can see that you have a lot less options for escaping the encounter, as opposed to the other classes.

How the fuck are people in videos that I watch, able to beam with the XP54 when the opponent is like, 80m+ away? When I click the fucking recoil immediately uncontrollably launches.

>>3182866
You see anon
if they use a controller, they have a strike pack or a XIM/Chronus
and if they're on PC they use a DMA card.
though the XP is the more controllable one

it gets suspicious when they magdump an M11 past 70 meters.

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Thrown into a bathtub full of sharks

>>3183353
fuck im retarded
anyways they were all full clan teams

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>>3183366
oh, and again, because "fuck you, its peak hours but youre gonna get handholding sweats anyways, suck it up"

>ccu is already at daily sub 20k despite the "biggest" season launch ever
Anyways, predict the nerfs tomorrow
I bet that oil barrel will now only deal 50 damage and chimera gets bigger dispersion while moving

>>3182715
another reddit light trying to project their inability to aim and their inability to adapt to their class's weaknesses onto other players
>hurr durr heavy is actually bad if you constantly let yourself get shot, and you're bad at aiming, and you have no idea how to pressure escaping opponents
wow! imagine!

Next time you wanna pretend to know a different class, try actually playing them for at least a few hours, not a few minutes before swapping back in Quick Cash

Why are Twitch Drops not working?

>flamethrower nerfed
At this point why not just delete heavy, embark? It annoys everyone, in fact, just fuse light and medium into one class, 225 HP and wide variety of counters to heavy, sounds good, no?

>dome nerfed
>emitter nerfed
>goo breaks from the slightest destruction
>barricades still can't be placed on debris or vertical walls
Powerful defense tools my ass
Also another AGP event pass, W for Transbark

>>3186743
>>3186758
Why the fuck did they go ahead with respec order? They clearly have no idea what they're doing anymore with these schizo patches

>>3186728
Embark doesn't give a shit, they are too busy preparing for the gay orgy next week in Stockholm

>>3186774
>b-b-b-b-b-b-but team member are drifting too far apart!!!
>introduces translocator and quickly bans it for TGM
Nothing unusual, just swedish cucks being bitchass pussies who hate fun

>>3184113
anon the larp stopped being funny 2 threads ago

People sat through the most boring season with S11 in the hopes that S12 would be the BIGGEST the game has ever seen and it's a complete trash heap. I hate swedes so fucking much, death to swiggers.

>>3186774
Embark's decision stretgy currently is to get as much fresh blood as possible, not mantain the currently dwindling playerbase and fixing legacy issues. Respec order trial runs went great with the casual and noob players, which is why they pushed it to live. Same reason why the new season isn't even called Season 12 but PRIME TIME. At first glance, a new player can't even tell that this game has been out for almost 3 years now and the new shiny UI and menus make it look like almost every other shooter menu that came out recently.

Riot buff fucking when? Precision system is so dog shit and unreliable. Just remove it and undo all the retarded stealth changes made to its hurtbox too. They want this retarded turtle playstyle that doesn't even block consistently. Was perfectly fine before shooting the feet, side, or back.

>>3187101
Melee should have never been added ingame.

>>3187105
You should have never been added ingame

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>you will live to see the normalisation of the LLL LMM LLM meta

>>3187015
Me? I'm having a BLAST.
Wiped a LLL team at the start of a match with the SH1900 which was a first for me, and had a funny dash moment with the enemy sword light when it was a 1v1
This is the best video game ever made. Billions must install!!


>>3182715
Light has a million ways to appear out of nowhere, poke or frag, then just disappear with a gadget.
So what exactly does giving heavy slightly more movement speed really do? Slow health regen + slightly lower health is a death sentence without something like mesh shield

Nevermind fuck this retarded game, my shitty medium teammates threw on the final cashout because theyre genuinely so retarded they dont understand that 2 mediums and a light are gonna pick them off they are on COMPLETELY differen sides of a building defending a cashout WHEN I THROW SONAR AND PING WHERE THEY COME FROM, WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU

>>3187290
2/2 SNCA blogpost

AND they were the most typical medium tropes ever im not joking
First was a shockwave using the paypig AKM skin, just a very avg but potentially reliable player with sort of mediocre aim
But the second medium was an actual tranny, with some name like Sophie and the ugly tranny fashion. And to be honest, they were so retarded, i'm inclined to believe it was an actual woman or kid.

Now the fact that they cant understand that the enemy team, also MML, are going to come at us frothing with rage to steal at the last 20 seconds is a mystery to me. A genuine mystery. And i ofcourse get stuck in the middle, and i panic a bit. But the speed at which these retards choked by just wandering around like retards is insane, not because it was a surprise, quite the opposite, and as a light player with a sawn of shotgun, those are the moments where i just want to fucking uninstall because idk what else i can do when that shit happens. I guess investing in a nade or mimic device slot and getting rid of gateway would solve my problems with defending

I wish IDs were a thing in vm threads so I could just automatically block every blogpost like this

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A healthy QC scoreboard. Divide and conquer, when it actually matters.

>Heavies nerfed AGAIN
HAHAHAHA, class favoritism is so fucking obvious, they wanna make lightweight dominate everything because most paypigs whales play that class the most and is marketable to normalfag cattle

Is it just me or has the Famas become slightly underrated? I'm not saying its OP or "good if youre high skill like me" but its not AS bad as people say

>>3187417
>>3187417
>most paypigs whales play that class
>and is marketable to normalfag cattle
two different things there. medium is more of the normie class. they somewhat overlap.

>>3187417
Sorry anon, heavy statistics say their winrate is too high because they're too strong.
It has nothing to do with it being an objective based class and hunkering down next to it.

>>3187428
Lightweight is definitiverly more marketable to normalfag cattle, a big chunk of the retards that play that shitty class are always using the sniper and playing it like they were on cawadooty
>>3187436
Embark doesn't really play their own game lol, another classic nexon thing

>>3186758
>tranny obsession
>>3187270
>trite blastposting
Damn, I guess Embark's outreach to new players worked, but you really should adapt to /vm/ culture if you're gonna come over here from /v/

>>3186803
>introduces translocator and quickly bans it for TGM
Hey, welcome to the community. It's good to see new players. Here's the thing though: it's not banned because of any reason like that. It's just because it's new. They did the same thing last year with the P90 and BFR not being eligible for TGM25.

>>3187436
I thought they mentioned that the avg heavies combat score was also too high.

>>3187479
>It's just because it's new.
True sight isn't banned
Sonars on Medium aren't banned
Mimic device isn't banned despite literally introducing dozens of bugs that Embark will fix only in the next year
Nice larp, discord bot

>>3187599
>True sight isn't banned
>Sonars on Medium aren't banned
Neither of these are new, newfriend. True Sight is just Thermal Sight, and Sonars on Medium was how the class was originally designed. Your newbishness is showing hard, but that's okay. You'll learn.
>Mimic Device
This one is retarded and stems from Embark hubris that leads them to breaking their own rules

>This one is retarded and stems from Embark hubris that leads them to breaking their own rules
can't even answer the question, nice larp my le ebin oldfag, ggs

>point break is extremely popular
>Embark has acknowledged that point break is one of the most played game modes
>Embark still makes missions that can't be done in point break.
Fuck you, I don't fucking want to play cash out

>>3187355
>>3187494
How the fuck average combat score is higher for heavy despite light scoring twice as many kills?

>>3187623
Oh you're running away. That's a shame. Hope this doesn't discourage from playing the game though. The Finals is real fun, and the community is otherwise pretty welcoming even when you new players act like this.

discord tranny above my post lol

>>3187634
Heavy probably did more damage, but the light got more actual kills.

>>3187634
The finals is in a poke meta and securing kills as a slow and fat clown can be difficult when there's a vent in every room and your opponents are able to fling themselves a city block away.
So they might be able to blast someone peeking the cashout but they can't really secure the kills if the enemy player isn't ego holding a losing fight.

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>>3187634
SH1900 dash light, so most of the time you either do damage and get a kill, or you don't

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>guy you suspected of cheating cries on finals discord about getting false banned

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This mission is bugged, at least for the grand vault. My team actually got 5 disarms in one match with me personally getting 3 of them and it didn't count a single one.

all hail our glorious pet class Lights

I just realized after looking at my uncategorized Steam games that I actually bought Kovaaks years ago with a discount. So now I'm going to try it. What's the best playlist there for this game?

>>3187800
>The finals is in a poke meta
Honestly, there's nothing that actually makes poke weapons particularly stronger than they have in previous seasons, especially with the LH1 and KS-23 being nerfed. It's just that poking has always been a good strat, and once people get into a routine, they have to be shaken out of it.

Not to say you're asserting it as such, but I hate seeing people mention there being a "poke meta" elsewhere like it's hard fact and has to be addressed. As if we haven't seen time and time again that what works at the higher level is just what people settle into and rely on as the thing their team members will expect, and weapons constantly pop up to shake things up as they were "secretely" capable of swinging big dick and being viable but just weren't being used until a spotlight is put on it (which then results in it getting nerfed and yet still being worth using)

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>see people call "reddit heavies" a bunch of flamethrower spamming retards
>think it's because the heavies are morons that are legitimately throwing
>it's one of the slowest TTKs in the game, requires the slowest class to get close to multiple people to have value
>if you have any skill, you take the MGL32 and learn that to get your usable "slower TTK but can splash" weapon
>patch notes comes out today
>flamethrower is nerfed
>check around to see reactions
>all of the people that say "reddit heavy" show that it's actually because they thought it was TOO STRONG
>that it was a "crutch" being used to "easily" kill people
>they were a bunch of lights that stood still and got killed by the worst weapon in the game
Discourse surrounding this game is so trash, goddamn. Such fucking vocal people that have the absolute most dogshit opinions and are completely impossible to actually talk to, so it's like having a retard permanently affixed to the center of the room and loudly moaning while shitting themselves while you're trying to have a conversation.

>>3189151
ive heard enough, make the BFR a 3 shot TTK on L

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>>3189196
>yet another "nerf heavy" joke
>inb4 "joke?"
you've got yourself to blame too for throwing such thoughts into the cosmic unconscious, it most definitely leads to the devs nerfing heavy (as well as them being ESL's that might not get the joke)

>>3189196
>>3189208
That's too much fighting between you two. Some more spear nerfs should put you back in line.

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What is the point of challenges that just give fans? Do fans even do anything since the sponsor revamp?

>>3189262
neither of us were playing heavy in that fight though

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>>3189619
fans are what progress your world tour rank now

>nerfed fire barrels into being useless again
Why? They were a high risk high reward pickup, and now they serve no purpose again.

>>3189620
I've heard enough. Nerf the MGL32

>>3186758
Heavy is literally the most troon picked class lol

>>3187209
Kill yourself you retarded melee faggot

>>3189151
>>if you have any skill, you take the MGL32 and learn that to get your usable "slower TTK but can splash" weapon
If you have any skill you use literally any other gun besides the MGL. It's garbage tier weapon

>>3190456
Fake news, its definitely medium

>>3190456
I've seen a lot more mediums playing female barbie dressup than light though

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>>3189151
>>if you have any skill, you take the MGL32 and learn that to get your usable "slower TTK but can splash" weapon
I agree. Mid range hitscan guns are very low skill compared to the humble MGL

Really not a fan of winning a cashbox fight and the enemy team spawning on the cashout before we can get there.

>worst team on planet earth (or atleast for 90% of the first round)
>do so bad that the other teams ignore us, and grief eachother on the other side of the map, and we just about defend in time
>get to the final because the 4th place team has a disconnect early on
i guess cashout has its moments of balance
still managed to choke the final

The sponsor voicelines have that weird AI TTS thing where they go quiet towards the end of a sentence/paragraph.

>>3190456
M is the healslut class that occasionally gets to play the game when Embark overtunes the cerberus again.

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Hot sweaty threesome with heckin valid healsluts in my goo dungeon while we wait for the other teams to respawn

>>3192407
>got healslut duo an hour after posting this
heh. its my lucky day, check em