Why nobody told me there is gacha about Mecha Musume that play exactly like Mecha game?
Pretty decent design too.
They even have 3 actual robot for robotfucker.
Nice cunny but this costume tho
Just play dolls nest
>>2032923Dolls Nest don't have mobile port.
I think this game is pretty good. I really want to have sex with Valkia.
>>2032016name?
>>2036499Starward Mecha girl. I tried making a general in /vg/>>>/vg/568426516
>>2036437Valkia will bite your dick.
>>2036527>/vg/a bit ambitious, no?
Sex with robots.
>>2037340I probably gonna try Nameless.
Setsuna Sweep
>>2037600She's fun. The artist is also just a huge robot fucker.
>>2037979artist twitterhttps://x.com/FrandreE50need 1 more robot girl so I can have a team of nothing but them
>>2032016I've tried shilling it before but people see "pvp" and "gacha" in the same sentence and run for the hills
>>2038040i probably would too if it wasn't a direct exvs knockoff and there being no way to play those games on PC, outside of I guess on emulators with questionable online functionality
I lost the 50/50 in every banner I don't think the game wants me playing
>>2039483Try rerolling. Might be cursed account.
>>2039593It might be cursed but it's my account. Somehow managed to get all that I wanted even though I have 0 currency now, just hoping next character released isn't something I really want. Someone recommend me a fun melee, Valkia is the only one that stands out to me other than the one time I turned around and saw my friend getting lawnmowered across the stage by some char with a buzz saw
>>2043060Depend if you want pure melee or Melee with some range option. Valkia is great. Another pure melee is Nameless who will turn into Ashura when she is in low hp and Akigumo who is basically Virgil.
>>2043083pure melee or mostly melee. I've fought akigumo once but I wasn't really sold on her moveset but I didn't really look closely. Does she have the sword belt?
>>2043358She doesn't have it, I think.
>>2043060>lawnmowered across the stage by some char with a buzz sawThat's Breaker. She was a BP character so you can just buy her fragments in the BP shopShe's pretty meh but the lawnmower is really fun
downloading for robot girls, fuck mecha musume
Assassin dork get all the women.https://x.com/rinya_dragon/status/2062688214851444756
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>>2048613Is this dork fun? I want to shank mecha musume
>>2050102Yes, if you like doing hit and runs alot she's pretty good. That shank move you won't unlock until talent 5, but when they start giving trial cards for and ad her to the rerun banner her it won't matter. She still is able to be a problem at tier 0. Just about everyone is.
>>2038040>>2038110Oddly enough for a gacha it's pretty decently balanced ((as far as 2v2 goes)) so there's surprisingly no real pay to when characters.
Too lazy to post a picturehttps://x.com/Mugen_no_Yuduki/status/20641956276309446594 new chars
>>2052235>The tactical Ant loli ganghttps://youtu.be/hHSSksH_W4E?si=-Sfl9rh_FPg7F4Fz*Kabuto vibes intensifies*
>>2052304sexo
>>2053045
>>2053089My perfect team of nameless, valkia, dead alive, and now this new girl is finally here…
>>2050254I think her t3 is important since it’s the move everyone is currently abusing to make her able to bully even higher costs in a basically unreactable way. She’s probably going to get nerfed though. Bottom tier for months, finally gets buffed, and with it, she flew too close to the sun.
>>2053372If you are doing a strict 1v1, yeah I could see it, but if your MO with her is just to gang and disrupt, t2, the one that gives her more knives to toss out is more important. I'd say. I haven't gotten to play her to really tell. But every match I run in to her, they are running that good interference to pressure people in 2v1's.
>>2053431desu you’d want 1-4 if you wanted to seriously play her since they are all meaningful upgradesthe t3 in particular just lets her do ridiculous unreactable nonsense with sub melee > step forward > 2b
>>2053449And that was just an observation from the ones I do happened to run into out in the wild.
>>2053089seeeeeeeexhttps://x.com/StarWard_JP/status/2065022102416322839
>manage to roll both dead master and brs with free rolls (won the 50/50 both times)>find out brs is in the event shopdid I brick my account
>>2054354Nah just means you got a talent to add to Brs.
>>2054354you can pretty reasonably start maxing all characters you play after you’ve been playing for a while, so it doesn’t matter in the long run
>>2053089Fucking LM in their abdomens!
Finally got to DS3!! Everyone keeps banning my Cygnus or if they don't they certainly will the next time we see each other.Stop it I want to one trick mai waifu aieeee
>>2054762At least you WANT to one trick. Me? I'm cursed to only be allowed to play, my waifu, Xiaoling, because no one knows how to play point, and the ones who do are never on my team. I'm not allowed to learn anyone else.
>>2055810You can play double backline can't you? I do that with my friend sometimes
>>2055984Nope, Double backline doesn't work(without both understanding who the problem is) when you keep getting things Void Saber, Akigumo, Rota, and the rare BRS who remembers that their melee game is actually busted and abusable.
>>2055998Rushed down by them I mean.
SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEX
>>2056264https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjIIoNd1D68
LM great and all, but gentlemen, exhibit B
what do i redeem here? i assume the tickets will reset but everything else will stay so get the tickets?
>>2058440As far as the season store goes the priority is character essence>all the cosmetics>the refreshables. I'd save up for the character essence. Those act as a duplicate copy for any of the 5 star characters (all but the collabs characters, they'll tell you who counts) and you can save it to help max out a character you really like a lot. This is would be my first season myself so I'm not sure if they rotate the shops out for seasons. My is a no for right now though, as there apparently only like 5 season pass characters in total right now.
Sweet, a starward thread>>2058440Talent essences are sold once per season and level the talents for the non-collab characters, so get those first
>>2058682With luck we can hopefully set up a decent general here on /vmg/, maybe /vm/ as well as soon as the next season starts.
>>2058681There’s no reason to prioritize the cosmetics over refreshables, because the cosmetics don’t change. I think the same BP cosmetics have been in the entire time I’ve played for like a year and a half.
>>2059509The Stardust is a reason then, because if the shop hasn't changed like you said, that means can clear out the shop quicker and get access to turning the season points in to Stardust and put that towards things like character fragments.
>>2059552The exchange rate for that is really, really low. It's just not worth it, especially now that you can save it for battlepass characters instead.
>>2059552forgot to mention if you didn't know, the BP currency carries over between seasons.
>>2058741Maybe some day there can be 4chan lobbies
>>2059572I'm bad at this game I need a big strong blackhole to carry me
>>2059629blackhole is free now, BRS brought too many babbies
>>2059636I'm one of those babbies I was getting my shit pushed in at 5k vs 6k people. Is there any guide videos or do I just watch pros and hope some of that rubs off on me
>>2059639I think the best way to improve is to play with a fixed partner rather than randoms, since it lets you improve teamwork and game awareness rather than just having to DPS race before your tardo partner dies 3x. Custom lobbies can be pretty good for that!Besides that, you could try watching the guys that won last year’s big official tournament:www.youtube.com/@ものつば道場www.youtube.com/@ロマ店
>>2032016Just downloaded it because the HUD looked cool, and it's pretty good. Much more fun than the average spreadsheet or errand simulaton gachas even though I have no idea what I'm doing in and out of matches.Suppression fire with Kaze is where it's at.
With the FAG collab rerun coming up, any thoughts on the girls especially at low talent levels? Kind of eyeing Stylet since I've been looking for a 2 cost to play, and the wiki says T1's a good stopping point as well. Alternatively I could just save and hope one of the newer characters this season has my preferred playstyle
>>2059752If you can play Kaze/Heavy Arms-chan decently, you are already cracked the game. She is one of the hardest character in game.
I just found out about this game and it seems interesting. Is it new player friendly? I usually am averse to starting gachas years late. How's the collection aspect? I see people say it's overall not p2w but I'd be sad if I find a girl I really like but have no hope of getting her.
>>2060491There is no such thing as an unobtainable girl in this game. Unless it's a collab they'll all be available for you too acquire, Void Saber will be a while though, since she's like brand new.
>>2060489>Kaze is one of the hardest in the game.Nta but, I'm not seeing it. Don't get me wrong Kaze is almost always slept but. But compared too actual Heavyarms (Ew) alot of the difficulty from Heavyarms came from you literally not being able to cqc in like any capacity, She at least as a like two melee combos, a counter and two stuns to fall back if people get to close or you fuck up your positioning. Would the difficulty come from her slower bullet velocity?
>>2060491All limited characters except collab will be dumped into this banner after like 2 or 3 banners cycle. So basically you can get pretty much everyone sooner or later.
>>2060493>>2060499Thanks for the info, I guess you get a pretty good amount of currency just playing, too bad I started right when the events are about to cycle out. Who should I invite from the free event that's about to go away and who should I target on the standard and rerun banners?
>>2060506I can't remember who the invite options were, but if Emika was there she's pretty good for starters. But as far as banners go. For standard banner you want to get one of everyone in there, and for the purple rarities. You want them max talent. For the rerun banner, want to first preview the characters your interested in, and then when you find one that clicks, select them as your target legendary. When you preview them in the training mode, always set your talent to zero for comparison as by default in trial tests, talents will always be max. You can also get trial cards to get characters to rent for a day or two as well to play them in actual matches.
>>2060491>>2060506It's slightly P2W in the sense that dupes can unlock new moves, cancel routes, or burst skills depending on the character, but for non-collab characters the talent essences (dupe replacement) can max a character out in 2-3 seasons. Keep them for the limited characters of course, since the standard characters will pop up eventually. >Who should I invite from the free event that's about to go awayTry them all out and see who clicks, though Rhine is probably one of the harder characters to play out of the 4 characters due to zero melee, and Cygnus is strong but has a unique boosting style that takes some getting used to. Emika and Sky Saber have fairly normal playstyles by comparison. Same with the other banners, pick the one you feel like playing first. If you're having trouble deciding, go with a character in a cost tier that you don't have a proficient character of so you have a good spread of characters to choose from for making teams.
>>2060538nta but>good spread of characters to choose fromI am only interested in 1.5-2.5 costs so my duo partner will just have to suck it up!!!
>>2060565You shouldn't sleep on 3 costs, some of the safest characters are in 3 cost.
>>2060506rhine is the easiest and safest of the options there who is pretty consistently good
>>2060658Do not listen to this man, Rhine requires you to be able deal will some of the most aggressive forms of pressure imaginable. You are basically a free kill until you really grasp how to function with no melee options while constantly being forced into melee situations.
>>2060497Heavy arms EW’s cqc is always pretty fucked up. It has no melee, but all the missiles staggering instantly and there just being so much output makes it a massive pain to punch. It has huge red lock but would normally try to jam itself up your ass, because then its constant vomit would hit you reliably. It being hard came from it having special movement options. Kaze is definitely really dumbed down and easier in comparison though. Her movement isn’t as weird while she’s still pretty much impossible to approach. Also she has a fucking snipe that instant downs for some reason, why does heavy arms need that??? And if she lands the stun shot, she can deal like 800 damage full screen with shooting only??? And the parry can be canceled into from anything and is active frame 1??? Holy fuck I hate Kaze.
>>2060675>Also she has a fucking snipe that instant downs for some reason, why does heavy arms need that???Heavyarms doesn't, but Kaze does, because doesn't have the missles that Heavyarms EW does, they gave those to Rhine. So it's suppose to be a trade off of some sorts.
>>2060673idk what you mean, rhine is consistently at least high tier and her entire game plan just involves mashing your buttons as the ammo goes down. Her burst is absurdly strong and low risk compared to most characters, and picking rhine, s burst, and just going main main main main main is good enough to win against 90% of the playerbase. Her self defense is largely played automatically because her sub melee has a built in dodge. Once she evolves, she’s basically impossible to aggress on without burst for like 95% of characters in the game. The only “hard” part of rhine is getting used to spending your ammo in green lock to evolve faster. She doesn’t have melee, but the 5 sub shooting is so huge and the flip missiles knocking up make it really hard to get in on her. She’s pretty widely considered one of the easiest 3ks.
>>2060678Yeah, that’s what I mean. They gave the character whose had no instant downs or ways to punish long distance landings reliably a full screen, instant down snipe. And she doesn’t have missiles but she shoots little stun projectiles which are functionally similar since they stun in one hit.
>>2060684What I mean is that it's trade off in that Kaze's kit is meant to he more direct and more frontal while heavyarms is more supportive and back line focus.
>>2060680What I mean is Rhine is easy but not "brand new player easy".
>>2060680>because her sub melee has a built in dodgeThe dodge is from T1 by the way, and her evolution takes a fairly long time without T3, especially when proper players breath down your neck the whole match if your partner isn't good at taking the heat off of you.
>>2060890Event rentals stack, you can grab like a week of maxed rhines and get copies as you use that. And it's not like the other characters don't want dupes either. Emika needs t1 for overheat movement, sky saber doesn't get her rang until t3, cygnus loses her cloak on overcost until t5. She's also just much more straight forward than any of those characters while also being very strong.
>>2060921The difference is those other 3, Emika especially, are able to function at t0 with no real issue, perfect for someone starting out. Where as Rhine, is fucked at T0. You'd be spending far too much tike trying to get her to work than actually learning the game as a new player.
>>2032016It's PVP, Plays like PSO/Virtual-On and has a Black Rock Shooter collabFuck you I didn't need a new addiction
>anons out there debating who is better for newbies>meanwhile we all know rolling with your heart/dick is the bestI gave Rhine a try (in training mode) and while she packs some serious firepower, she just feels slower than Kaze. If Kaze is nimble like the wind, Rhine feels kinda Blastoise-coded.Anyway for rolling I take it it's better to focus on maxing talents for a few units from regular and special pools rather than spraying your shots? I think I'll go with Siren from the special pool since she's balanced and trapping people in water bubbles sounds like good harassment.
>>2060593I don't particularly care about safe, just what interests me. I thought I liked void saber but I guess I was wrong, sorta think I like shadow but I'll wait until there's a trial for her. Every other character I'm interested in ended up in the 1.5-2.5 range. I think I like too many 2 costs
>>2061072I think there’s a trial for her in the champion match shop, if you can suffer and pray that champion matches are alive for once.
i want to have sex with krista
>>2061053>Anyway for rolling I take it it's better to focus on maxing talents for a few units from regular and special pools rather than spraying your shots?The opposite, you want one of each first then you go for talents the reason being is so have a good team of people to choose from once you need to start building teams for ban system and so that you can get more sources of the currency that comes from dupes. At the very least get everyone at least one from the regular banner then you can pick and choose who to max from the special rerun banner.>inb4 I don't care about rankYour gonna care about rank, rank gives you star gems, Stardust, or coupons, weekly, and placing at the end of the season next you an even bigger sum plus season skins if you reached a high enough bracket class.
>>2061110Championship matches are suppose to be open at like past 16:00 or like 4pm evidently but it's mainly about timezones that's the problem. I'm thinking they might have you do something later, like lock into a region each season, so there can be a system where specific reasons can have their own opening times for Championship matches
>>2061053learn beta and deucalion cause they are free for t5. pick a standard character probably cherub cause you get a free copy. new accounts have plenty of standard pulls so it's not unrealistic to t5 within a week of playing. rest of your tickets can go to any other limited character you want. you dont always need t5 for some characters and can get away with low invest. that's 4 characters for ranked. you only need to push for darkstar 3 for max season rewards. you basically get dropped into superstar after placements. plenty of bot matches for free wins. season and weekly take your highest rank achieved. save season points for the orange juice for talents.
https://x.com/StarWard_JP/status/2067184676389966232Balance update for the start of the season, hopefully it'll rein in the deadmasters and voidsabers
>>2061772>Buffing Reki and giving Lancelot more ammo
>>2061772My mortal enemy black rock shitter finally pays for her crimes.
>>2061235We do have specific times for NA champion match on Saturday, but because of how champ match splits people up into brackets based on their historic highest rank, it’s hard to get the tiny ass playerbase on it rather than ranked/mm which is easier to fill and has less wait time, especially since the champion match rewards are mostly cosmetic.
Is there any way to cancel your combo burst when someone bursts to get out of it
>>2063500Nope you gotta commit and hope yours beats out theirs.
>"lose" pliszka 50/50 to ffreedo found my new main
for me? it's XVIII. haven't been playing long, any pro tips? thought i was getting the hang of it, then I got major cucked at 3200mmr. still never faced a real player, but now the ai is godlike, dodging and countering me rapidly target swapping while they gangbang my ai teammate to death. I'm trapped in 3000ish mmr
>>2065848Ai matches boil down to gank someone with your Ai partner because it can't be trusted to fight by itself. As for tips for XVIII, that I can't really say, people just play her the same way they would beta as a backliner even though XVIII so blatantly meant to be a vanguard. She needs t5 to properly do that but her copies are easy to get.
Made it to Superstar, and I was NOT expecting the rule change.>>2061226Now this finally makes a lot of sense even though it's penalizing for unskilled players who only know how to play a fingerfull of characters well.
>>2065848The higher difficulty bots input read for melee. They’re still free wins though, because they will not chase you if you position yourself back. So you can just use the bot partner as bait and then shoot them.
>>2066201I love the banpick system, it let's you actually strategize with your shuffle partner to a degree instead of just having to pray you don't end up in a terrible team comp, or even sabotage the other team so they have to play differently.
>>2066276I specifically hate normal match making because of this because I get some of the most horrendous comps when I'm just trying to learn another character.
>>2066276I just ban whoever I dont want to deal with
Keyboard or controller? I'm on keyboard right now but i dunno if I can handle any movement tech with these controls its a bit weird
>>2066891I play on controller, but I’m also just used to it coming from EXVS on playstation. There are a few people that play keyboard, so it’s doable.
>>2064173teach me how to play her anon, I can't drive her broom
Vote for new collab.https://wj.shengtiangames.com/#/?id=40000049&wj_lang=zhs
>>2069672>there are people who are gonna vote foe pic related when we already have "literally Siren at home"
>>2069677That, the harpy, and the bat are all shit picks since we already have Siren/Griffin/Cammy for the same thing For me, it's Fox/Locust/Horse>Fox because I have her kit and it'd make for the THIRD time a kit I own gets in this game for some reason (Stylet/Galahad/Fox)>Locust because Kamen Rider knockoff is an obvious choice>Horse because getting the devs to try and animate that thing sounds funny
>>2069672Kind of funny how many of these already have a similar counterpart in the game.>Lirly Bell : Sharp>Bat : Orchid for scythe weapon, Cammy for sound theme>Charybdis? : Siren>Amelia Hartmann : Griffin>Carol/Wolf : Pallas>Cyclone : Lancelot kick, Shadow scarf+mask>Fox : ZakharovaI'll probably vote for the horse, though I kinda wish it wasn't another red/black schemed character
Should I get Galahad Dawn, Lancelot or Nora? I just want something that easy to use.
>>2070824Lancelot, she's basically the bullshit melee from Bael on top of the bullshit range game from freedom gundam.Dawn is good to go out the gate no real talents needed.Nora just has super armor abuse and that's it.
>>2070824I would say lancelot. She’s a pretty simple to play character with a straight-forward gameplan of poking enemies with your flippy shots until you can try to abduct someone that isn’t paying attention in install. IMO She ideally backs for a 3k that naturally draws double lock, since that allows her to flipflop poke until install and then act as a second threat when buffed.White Gala is another install character, but her shooting outside install isn’t as impressive. Instead, her install, and especially her burst, are more swingy and threatening. So if you’re new at not good at bursting, you’ll often feel like you don’t accomplish much. She’s also a collab character, which makes her more expensive to max, though I think only her t1 talent that unlocks her big combo ender is particularly important. She can play either back and double front during install, or front/bomb herself because of how explosive and swingy her bursts can be that it’s viable to just send it and get more bursts on her.Nora spams super armor. She has a really long cancel route that lets her keep flinging herself at you even in overheat to spam armored melee that does big damage quickly. I would recommend her the least, because she’s a pretty gimmicky character who is also pretty restrictive in her gameplay. Her guns are either low range, low ammo, and/or low tracking, so she can’t help her partner much and selfishly wants to take all the lives, as she can’t do much without trading away her health or putting herself in risky situations. People usually bomb with her, meaning a passive 3k stays back and lets Nora take all the lives. If you didn’t know, you can try out all of these characters before having them in the training room by checking the costumes list, where even characters you don’t have are, and selecting the training option.
>>2070871>>2070884What about Nameless?
>>2070895No, not her, nameless is the harder install character. She requires you know what you are doing
>>2070895I don't think she's too hard to pick up. She has some high level movement tricks that involve using her charged move during specific instances of her other movement options, but her basic gameplan of... shoot gun, confirm with sub, throw rang, press funny armor move when close, makes her one of the easier melee 3ks. She can actually play a normal, strong neutral game.
god kda's voice gives me a boner
Lost 50/50 to KDA trying to roll Lancelot. Fuck you chinese zombie.
>>2071346If you ever roll for anyone specific, especially for the initial unlock, always do 100 percent. It's only 20 rolls more but bit worth if are absolutely trying to pull a specific character. 50/50 is better for just getting extra talents.
Hype
>>2071512Hopefully the collab runs long enough so I can check out how the other new characters of the season play first
>>2071519We still have 2 to 3 more months of Galahad, both of them.
LMbros, how are we coping?
>>2071582What is there to cope, isn't LM pretty solid so long as people actual play her as back line?
>>2071585I think she’s worse than any other backline 2k after playing some games with her, and her first week data has her among the lowest winrate/banrate characters. I don’t know if she’s the single worst 2k, but I think she’s definitely down there. I also don’t think she’s complex enough for it to be people playing her wrong, she just doesn’t do anything. Bad tracking, bad movement, bad damage, easy to bully, bad range. She feels lacking in literally every department besides having infinite ammo on the low tracking main. Site showing win/ban rateshttps://hoshinotsubasa-rank.com/?tab=20
>>2071609Her issue is that she'll be ran to cover for someone who either doesn't know how to vanguard or be forced into vanguarding because her partner is either a really strict backline character or the person is just refusing to get aggressive and only taking pot shots. Plizska is ironically the opposite where her job is to be all up in the enemies face, the main threats face, and trying to play her like say Rhine doesn't workout that well unless her partner is being just aggressive to give her time to set up beam snipes. Aside from that, Plizska is meant to frontline.
>>2071621I will add that I think her ult was a mistake. It's redundant to the mega beam she already has, If they change anything about her, it should be giving the ult's AOE to the regular mega beam she has, and then change her Ult to be the ult from Harry Ord's Gold Sumo, the universe set up.
>>2071621Even with a static partner that knows how to front, I think she’s just not that good at her intended role, and she’s very inflexible and bad at anything else. I played her some with my duo and it felt like… why play this over any other back low cost that can actually hit things or defend themselves beyond fundamentals?
>>2071669Fundamentals is exactly why you would play a character like LM, it's like what was said earlier, her kit seems to simple and straightforward for anyone to play incorrectly, yet at the same time, that simplicity is what makes her complex. She's may not be definitely be good at anything, but at the same time there's no tried and true way to counter her like you would a specialist like Tatiana or Phoebe.Flexibility is there in LM, but it depends on how well you know your fundamentals in a game like this. Beta would be like that too, but she's not because everyone leans on her sub shot game like a crutch.
https://x.com/StarWard_JP/status/2070341296888090860More collabs, skins and plamo this time though. Akigumo plamo is pretty hype, maybe I'll try and grab that
Redpill me on Thunderbolt Otome.
>>2072111Not a real expert on the character (despite having her at T5) so all I can say is best boobs in the game (IMHO) and from what I've heard plays kinda like Build Strike Full Package, who I honestly don't recall seeing in any EXVS vids- take that any way you will. imo she doesn't represent her franchise that well, being just a fanservicey reskin of the starter mech, but based devs for picking her anyway
>>2072133I personally wish her awakening state was like Blue Destiny's exam, you could enter it more freely but once per life, but that awakening state as is, is too unbalanced for that. I would like it to be reworked better.
>>2072111she’s a simple character who has a gimmicky install she can only enter on her last life while under 1000 health. She can either use a super to enter it when those conditions were met, or if you’re hit when under 1k on your last life when you have full burst, you will automatically flip burst, whether you want to or not, and enter install. The install is very swingy and gives her incredibly broken melee that does a lot of damage, so she can rob games.
Someone tell me how to deal with Griffin other than "wait for her to land" she makes me want to kms
>>2075216Is it her melee or her shooting? If she's melee heavy just block her anytime she goes in for her shit. If it's her shooting, than do your best to keep close and pressure her. Basically the name of the game with her is stick close to her like a hawk.
>>2075216You don’t really have to desu, she’s very mobile and has great self defense but low ranged damage. You just stay aware of her to not get izuna dropped and fight the other guy and punish griffin if she tries to do anything beyond poke with her low damage snipe that you avoid when you see her go for it, and if you get hit, the damage is low. 1v1ing griffin is normally a bad idea, because her melee damage is absurd even outside burst, unless you’re a super dedicated melee character.
>>2072133>>2073854>>2073941NTA but should I try to T5 her before her banner ends? I started playing last month when the PS5/Xbox release happened so I'm not sure if she'll immediately be rerun or not when her banner ends.
>>2075421At least get t2 or t3. She's workable at t0 really but keeping mobile is how you truly stay a problem with her. T2 I'd say is a must because that takes one of her sub melee actions off of a number cool down.
>>2075336>You don’t really have to desuHe kinda does if he's the vanguard because Griffin is basically vanguard. You never want the vanguard to be left unharassed.
>>2075437I don’t think she’s exactly a standard “vanguard/front”, and you also don’t have to fight the “vanguard” if you are “vanguard.” Rota for instance is the queen of bullying low costs. You should be thinking to be more flexible than “f burst 3k 1v1s the f burst 3k”. And besides that, people die second with griffin on a lot of teams due to how good her mobility is. She’s really difficult to play vanguard due to how all of her good moves vernier. She CAN be aggressive especially when she bursts, but you should plan on being more adaptive. Griffins will have pretty long times where she will play slowly, rotating between her cooldowns and throwing out (low damage) snipes, and during this time, there is no need to constantly stare at her when you could just fight the low cost instead. You can never ignore her from threat of the izuna drop, but if you pay just enough attention to not get meleed, you’re fine. This is all much more complicated in practice since Griffin is pretty consistently high tier for a reason, but trying to chase her when she’s set on kiting is a losing battle for most characters.
>>2075498>you also don’t have to fight the “vanguard” if you are “vanguard.” Rota for instance is the queen of bullying low costs.You do from from a defense point of view. If Rota's game plan is to go after your back liner, then you and your partner who ever is vanguard should competently know, we should contest before it gets out of hand. Now you are right, you don't have to spend the WHOLE MATCH as a vanguard fighting the vanguard, but you do need to get to a point where you have that vanguard suppressed.
>>2075216Don't be afraid to run to your partner if you can't handle a 1v1, the worst case scenario is when you're both split up and neither of you can help each other. This applies even when you're playing front, just keep their attention on you and take advantage of any opportunities your partner gives you. Plus if someone is really good at running away chances are they'll leave their partner behind, and it'll be your chance to double lock the partner and get their HP down. Do keep track of what that player is doing regardless of course so you can avoid any shots coming your way, especially if you're up against a character with silly weapons up their sleeve (like Zakharova, standard evasion tech never seems to work against that one barrage of hers)
>>2075230>>2075336>>2075437>>2075498>>2075517Thanks for the answers!For more information I was playing Cygnus and friend was playing Zakharova, pretty much every time this Griffin showed up we had a hard time. The one time we won against them was when I aggressively went after the Griffin and completely ignored their teammate and didn't faceplant horribly in the 1v1 but honestly it was such a pain. I am also shit at boost management and can't do cygnus's movement tech consistently so that probably made the problem even worse.
>>2075740If you went in more melee heavy as Cygnus that probably helped because pretty much no one knows how to respond to Melee cygnus. People only see her dance around and spam range.
>>2075762Yes, I try to play a more melee heavy Cygnus because I enjoy it. It also feels like better players just ignore me and dodge all my range to double lock my teammate. These people don't appear much in my norms mmr but when they do I really need to find a way to actually be useful
>>2075770It's because Cygnus is obnoxiously unapproachable. Her overcoat makes shooting her for an opening worthless, and her ice blades get past just about fucking every form of super armor. Ad mentioned early she's almost never played as a front so people just assume, "if we just ignore her she'll be too scared to actually engage and just keep taking sneak shots from far back."
Is there a cap on gaining proficiency? I've stopped earning any.
>>2076736it caps at 500
>>2076736>>2078631It was buggedYou couldn't earn stars or gain proficiency. It's fixed now.
What is this for?
>>2080284It's what you get from dupes, you can use them to by more tickets both collab or rerun, or save up 800 for a copy of an available rerun character at the shop.
>>2032924Winlator bruh
>>2080284just use it to buy more rolls
Griffin HATEI sort of want to roll for her when her skin reruns, fire chicken is sorta cool
DAMN JUST LOOK AT THE BADONKERS OF THIS ROBOT WOMAN
>>2082073Told you she got the best tits-you might want to consider the red outfit for the underboob cutout and exposed ass desu I think she got boobacrept by Beta Longinus Anyways it's a real shame the IP holder doesn't do jackshit with this character
>>2082073They're way too firm. Basically a melee weapon at this point.
>>2082230She's not really a character because she just larping as pic related. Really they should make another game.
Since I'm still at a rank where people keep banning my Cygnus should I roll for Shadow or become what I hate (Griffin)? I dunno what to roll with my rerun tickets
>>2083142Test them in training with the trial feature, you also want to make sure you set them to no talent first so you can see what your really getting into with starting them.
>>2083142You can try baiting a ban by putting other characters people hate in the team, even better if you can actually play them decently when they don't take the bait I'd still ban Cygnus though because the kick beam spam is annoying Have you given Reki a shot? She seems pretty popular and is also in the standard gacha
>>2083544Reki's not in the standard banner, Reki is in the character shop, you by her fragments with character coupons. The less Rekis in the world the better. Crazy you have issue with Cygnus ice spam, but not Reki's shots doing the exact same thing, on top of stunning you, plus plus her pulling super armor our her ass, so when she goes in to melee's practically guaranteed to hit you.
>>2083624Ah my bad then, I assumed the store characters would be the same lineup as the standard gacha.>Crazy you have issue with Cygnus ice spam, but not Reki's shots doing the exact same thing, on top of stunning youI hate those too, especially since they track so well a boost jump can still get hit if you're not looking, but I have an easier time staying away from a Reki and getting a chance to shoot them once vs trying to hit a Cygnus hell bent on ice spam and brake cancelling. I am also reminded of the time I kept downing a Reki every time they tried to approach me with Cherub's sub shot.
>>2083544I was looking at the character rankings and Shadow is 50% banrate below 8k and 35% above so if I go Shadow chances are I'll be eating a double ban which will be hilarious but at least it'll free up my usual choice after Cygnus is banned.>>2083360There's a way to set them to no talent? Is it in the actual training mode I'm blind
>>2084162The trial/preview mode is the same as the actual training mode, you just bring up the training menu and you can set the talent level there.
How the fuck do I play Kaze. I assume I just get in their face, twirl, twirl, main as I fall and then occasionally snipe. It's so fucking hard but I already bought her swimsuit.
>only 3 wins in 15 games today>2 were against botsDefinitely not ready for dark star rank yet
>>2087250>2 were against botsHey wins are wins, no shame in claiming bot victories, especially when bots like to deliberately screw you over with bans and the most horrid player choices to go against the enemy that's blatantly reading your moves. Bots matches are not pity matches, they are punishment matches in this game.
>>2088444bots are literal free wins
>>2089028Until you run into the ones that straight up read everything you do, while chaining with the worse possible ai teammate to "assist you".
>>2089046While chaining you*
>>2089046they’re always free wins
Koitus fangs looks a lot better
>>2088444>the enemy that's blatantly reading your movesOnly if you try to melee them, which I've learned to avoid doing from playing exvs. Losing against bots is only possible if I don't stay back enough while the bot partner suicides three times.>>2089183Fuyuko collab when
>>2089570For me it's the opposite because my bot teammate tends to be so bad it can not function unless I intervene with melee. My bot matches tend to be dumb shit like, the most passive snowowl and me, versus things like Tatiana and Reki abusing super armor and stuns.
You people actually get to play against players?
>>2089844Yeah do your rank placements.
>>2089617Literally just shoot them. It doesn’t matter if your bot dies when you don’t, and bots shouldn’t be able to kill you… unless you try to melee them. You also CAN melee bots easily, because they have no boost management. Just let them overheat and then punch them, and they also always mash on wakeup so incredibly fake oki like 5b5b5b spam consistently hits them.>>2089844There’s only real players at 6k+ and casual matchmaking is usually alive unless you try to do it at like 5 am. I think there’s like a hidden cuck pool for casual matchmaking where it separates based on historic ranking like champion matches does. Where like if you never hit 5k or something, you’ll be only placed with other super new players, and that playerbase size is really small. At least, I think that’s how it works, because when I tried doing a quest for MM on my alt, I was only getting bots even when I know it was alive until I ranked up on it.
>>2089906>Literally just shoot them. It doesn’t matter if your bot dies when you don’t.It does because that bot could be so trash it dies twice because it's not being aggressive enough. And you're also not accounting for dumb shit like you getting double teamed and your ai partner not doing shit to save you because they gotta fake some idea of a challenge. Fighting bots themselves aren't the issue with bot matches, it's you being force to carry deadweight when you play them.
>>2089986idk, you really shouldn’t be losing to bots unless your game crashes or some shit. They won’t even double lock you unless you run in the middle of them. They have no priority to chase what isn’t directly next to them. You should be planning to give the bot partner all the lives and play accordingly, which really isn’t that differently from how you have to play with a lot of real people.
>>2089906I think unranked has its own mmr because as I started playing more and more I started to get people who I only saw in my friend's games when he was streaming (and promptly get my ass kicked). I'm still a lot lower than him in ranked. So right now ranked matches are actually easier for me
>>2090087Normal matchmaking is unironically the big leagues. Last season when I just started I would constantly buttheads with like 10 top players in the rankings or just people who have characters in the proficiency levels of 25 and up. Shit gets so rough you get days were simply just learning new character is not wise in quick mmr, and you have legit have a better learning in ranked.
>>2090164most of the people that play a lot just chill in matchmaking after they hit black hole
>>2089844The Asian servers pretty much always has players, don't know if the American servers are any different>>2090164Getting to fight the stronger players in unranked is the fun part honestly, since you get to see moves that you wouldn't usually find in your current rank and help prepare for the match up in ranked
>Like Pliszka alot>Can't play her well>Responsibility of a 3cost gives me performance anxiety, making the skill issues worse in pvp.>Still tempted to take her to T2 or 3.>But cute glasses girl Remiel is coming soon.>And summer Lancelot makes my pp the big pp, so really tempted to build her too.>But don't actually have any talents in Lancelot and haven't actually played her as a result too.Fuuuck me bros, my pvp skill issues are conflicting with my waifufag desires. Like I can't even bring myself to get Kaze's summer skin, even tho I like it alot, since I'm terrible at playing her it feels like it'd be a waste to get. And if Remiel isn't a 3cost she'd be a safer investment than Pliszka and I like glasses girls at least as much as I like milf-like characters, even with Pliszka's added edge of anger issues, which I guess is there dommymommyfags?
>>2091023Get Remiel and use the essences on pliszka over the next 2 seasons or so, if you still like her enough. Reminder to get the one in the current season store before it refreshes tomorrow. Dommymommyfags are probably still waiting for Simona to release
>>2091023>Like I can't even bring myself to get Kaze's summer skin, even tho I like it alot, since I'm terrible at playing her it feels like it'd be a waste to get.I have the same problem with Kaze and I bit the bullet and bought Kaze's summer look. With me I'll use it as incentive to actually practice to get good with Kaze.
>>2091023>Responsibility of a 3cost gives me performance anxiety???3 cost is probably the easiest role and the one with the least amount of responsibility. You've got a ton of HP, boost and power that will carry you quite far. If anything if you're a new/skillet player playing lower costs is the thing that's more risky since if you fuck up and die first you screw over your higher cost partner.That said maybe try using defense burst.
>>2091110>3 cost is probably the easiest role and the one with the least amount of responsibility.No you have the most responsibility because you are guaranteed to be the one being jumped if you don't know what you are doing. Which is what makes Plizska harder than most 3cost. If she looses her kit with out doing any sort of damage to the enemy and you don't know how to function without her full armor, she'll be a sitting duck, and unlike Rhine, doesn't start fully powered at the beginning of her lives. Plizska is not meant to hang back and play keep away. She's required to engage.
>>2091110>That said maybe try using defense burst.Also defense on Plizka is a bad idea because if you cost over with Plizska they send you out with no kit, and no burst to help you get your kit back at that part is a real set back.
Behold the power of Legion!
>>2091484Based summer ant-chan
balance stuffhttps://x.com/Starward_EN/status/2074808513759764812
>>2091562>OTOME and LM buffsRobutt lovers we eating good tonight
>>2091598finally my sexbot ant will maybe not be unusable tier
>>2091562It was a funny few weeks of seeing pliszka getting compared to plesioth's infamous hip check, a shame to see it go
>>2091598No one is eating better than Quiyufags. With that massive block if text for her she might as well be getting a complete rework.
>>2091691At least the drones will he more reliable. But Dragonerbros are the ones really catching strays.
>>2091842>QuiyuDid she really need the buffs?She's ranked 20th in the 6000--8000 rankings and and 33th in the 8000+ rankings.Meanwhile the robutts are ranked much lower and LM is pretty much dead last in all brackets except the less than 3500 one.
>>2091878Quiyu strength seem to come from literally no one knowing how to respond to her, because she never really ever gets picked. As one of the "starters characters", among the newer to lower mid experience she was viewed as among weaker characters.
>>2091878She was one of the worst 3k. LM is one of the worst 2ks, but she’s also getting buffed.
>>2091562>>2091598Look like I need to get Thunderbolt Otome. 50% or 100%?
>>209192650% is better in the long run. I don’t remember the rate exactly, but you on average get each copy a few rolls earlier and also get more standard dupes, which eventually translate into 5 rolls each.
>>2091926>>209192850% is only better if you want dupes. If you just want 1 copy, 100% is better.Mind you OTOME-chan is perfectly playable and has access to her entire kit at T0, though if you ask me you should try getting her T3 if you can.
>>2091926>>209192850% = higher chance for legendary, the catch is you have a 50/50 between the actual banner character you want or one of the legendary from the standard banner.100% means the featured is guaranteed, but it will take you longer as that rate is reduced to hit legendary, but the upside to that is all the rolls you do on 100% goes to a extra box to pull a standard legendary when you roll enough.
>>2091940Yeah, I meant that, on average, you get the banner character in fewer rolls with the 50% than on the 100%.
>want to Otome.>also want to get Stylet, Basedlad and Simona.>there is also upcoming collab with Chinese Kotobukiya.I'm fucked.
>>2091989>SimonaWho's this
>>2092009A retarded pirate who somehow got her ship stolen by a daycare teacher.
>>2091989>>2092026Right I forgot about her.Since she's not a collab character you can just skip her for now and pick her up later if you're short on rolls since she'll be added to the rerun banner eventually.You should priorities the collab characters since those won't be added to the rerun banner and you can't use that golden canister fake dupe on them.
>>2091562>Liked using BRS' side submelee to get into melee >Loved Borzoi's funny gunkata AoE to just catch anything nearby>>>Both nerfed Fuuuuck
>>2091989How far out is the new collab? I want Simona but if that centaur becomes a collab char I'm probably going all in on her
>>2092065It's still in the voting stage so I'd wager it will take at least 2 patches.And it's not determined yet whether you'll get a centaur or not so I wouldn't get your hopes up just yet.
>>2092072Her only real competition is the Kamen rider fangirl.
>>2091842>>2091878https://youtu.be/wEs_iSI4n6o?is=jEVDOecK3c6XDKAV>Qiuyu's is soon to become chinese Rota/Akigumo This is abit excessive, no?
>>2092578Maybe this is their way of doing chinawank considering they haven't released a new china character since launch
>>2092625qingni is a chink limited not from launchyou may have forgotten her because she sucks and no one plays her
>>2092026I need gameplay vids of her nowwwwww
>>20926673 more weeks
>>2092651>you may have forgotten her because she sucksIt's not that she socks it's just that Xiaoling is just literally that much better than her.
>>2092672those are like completely opposite characters
>>2092683They are both Chinese coded characters. That was the point of that shitpost. Though keep in mind when Xiaoling got reworked, that was a nerf, to like everything but her ult. She didn't really get reworked to be better.
>>2092683Lmao, my bad I finally realized who you were actually talking about. It didn't register with me because I see more people pick Qingni more than they pick Qiuyu.
Stylet or Baselad?
>>2093676StyletThough you should just choose the one you like the most.
>>2093676Gourai
behold my luckshitting ways
>>2093790Based, Gourai being more common is gonna spook the fuck out of people who just started.
>>2093676stylet is one of the best 2ks right now
I made a thread in /vm/>>>/vm/2701996
>>2094075Thanks but it's pretty pointless since that board is even more dead than this one.
>>2093790explodedunno if i want any of the 3 I rarely see themis any of them a low cost vanguard-ish char
>>2094121This thread didn't even list the games name in the op. If we want to have a settlement here on this site, a general her and/or on /vm/ is essential.
>>2094282A note for next thread just in case, generals get deleted here for some reason if you indicate it is one in the title, despite the most cancerous thread on the board not only surviving but also going through like 2-3 threads a day having it in their title. So keep the op short and any links and stuff in the first few posts
>tfw when can't enjoy playing and learning Gourai because matchmaking won't give me a front liner and people who know how to front and instead keeps having me fight the front liners.I hate unranked matching so much bros...
>>2094703You'll be forced into those situations against good players anyway, use it as positioning practice and stick close to your partner. Unless they're monkeys that forgot to map the switch target button they'll atleast cut for you when you get hit by a combo
I tried this because of a /v/ thread yesterday and wow, this really isn't touch screen friendly huhWell, I'm glad they let you get one of the robot girls immediately at least
>try to link phone account to pc>wrong account or passwordam i stuck on phone? yes its the standalone pc launcher.Maybe i need to re-register it? any anons know
>>2095164Is this steam or emu?
Post damage report.>80 for Basedlad.>70 for Stiletto.>80 for Sexbot Otome.Not bad. I'm preparing losing 270 rolls.
>>2095169standalone launcher. ill email support anyway
Simonaaaaa I neeeed herrrrrr
lm sexo
Has anyone experienced lag for the past 2 maints or so? I could barely play 2 days ago due to the frequent stutter/slideshow
>>2098336If you play on servers too far away from you maybe.
>>2095175turns out it was a region specific launcher thing. I had registered my account on the jp ios store so I needed the jp pc launcher