Upcoming Suikoden mobile game spinoff set between Suikoden V and Suikoden I. Been a long while since we had any actual concrete info on the game.Pre-registers are up for JP. Global at a later date.https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.konami.suikoden.starleaphttps://apps.apple.com/jp/app/id6746180100
Opening.https://youtu.be/9kX1Y_BFcLE
They should have just made it an actual paid game instead of a gacha game desu
december 27 for jp release. hopefully it’s not another year after that for global.>>2079459it sucks seeing them turn a mainline game into a gacha. hopefully it lasts long enough that they can finish the main story.
>>2079330Kinda weird the Global pre-reg isn't available at the same time
>>2080678that's because the global version is releasing much later on than the jp version
>>2080683Just another reason why JP gachas are light years behind CN and KR ones.
>>2081212what’s worse is that the steam version is releasing sometime after the global version as well.
>>2080683They're successful precisely because they prioritize their own country first.
>>2080683I don't get why they are making separate app for JP and Global instead of a language selector in the game settings.
>>2082820seperate apps mean they only have to censor one version of the game if one country decides to get offended over drawings
SSR Tengaar, Georg and Stallion
>>2081225And with that, my interest in the game has completely vanished. Even though I'm a longtime fan of the series.Oh well. It's a JP gacha anyway. EoS within ~2 years.
>>2083397seeing “optimizing for each platform” is worrisome. can’t help but think they’ll do a nintendo level localization for global.
>>2079330It's one of those jp only game where you have to use VPN to access them if ypu don't want to wait for the EoP version later isn't it?
>>2083432it’s on ios/android so you can download the game from the jp store and play it without vpn.
The manga version of STAR LEAP is planned for a total of 6 chapters
>>2085698final chapter in september then.
You guys think they'll do a beta test before the full release?
>>2086376it’s a single player gacha so i don’t think they need to test anything.
>>2086379(me)then again, another eden had a beta test so i guess they can do it if they want
gameplay video from the voice actorshttps://youtu.be/5WcBdw9Z5uE?is=P9LE8vbG3r-wxT-Wlooks nice. sucks that we have to wait longer for global and even longer for steam.
JP release on August 7 JST.
>>2129606That's pretty sudden. I just worry the global release will be cancelled and then it'll EoS shortly after.
Wait a few years for the single player release
>>2129645Would Konami even care to give this the Megaman X Dive / Final Fantasy (Brave Exvius) Resonance treatment?
>>2129650Who knows. Konami released offline version for Dankira and Tokimeki Idol but I don't remember if offline version for their other EoS games.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.konami.suikoden.starleapGame's up for pre-download on both JP Play Store and JP App Store. Sadly, my phone isn't officially supported (requires 6GB RAM minimum when I only have 4). Can't bypass through APK either because of Play Integrity checks.
>>2131738Oh yeah, looks like Suikoden SP is a Unity game so you should be able to grab the full APK pack (~3GB) and run it through something like AssetStudio for datamining, unless Konami added obfuscation methods to deter miners.
>>2131738Funny error code
>>2131741>Unity gamehere's hoping someone will show us how to make our own private server
>>2132088Is that even viable right now? Maybe when it's close to EoS and constant updates aren't guaranteed anymore, but not when the game's just about to launch.We're not even sure if there'll be enough people who'll care about preserving this game in the West.
>>2081225What the fuck? This is the second worst case scenario (worst being no global at all).Now I either gotta stick it on my shitty phone that might not have the room or specs to run it, and then transfer to steam God knows how many months/years later, or wait for steam and miss everything global gets before then, because steam will likely just sync to global's current state on its release rather than them maintaining two global versions.
>>2132362Rather bold of you to assume the game is even going to last long enough to release globally.
>>2132321i heard it’s easy to make private servers for unity games, so just gotta hope someone is a fan and has the know how to do it.
>>2132410Yeah... this sudden release date makes me think Konami has no real hope for the game, and is just dumping it to fulfill contracts/recoup money. I hope I'm wrong, but that's what it looks like to me.
>>2132451How is it sudden? It was expected earlier in the year if anything.
>>2132496NTA but shadow dropping the release date of a gacha with ONLY 4-5 days in advance is very sus.Still, I am rather curious to see how it goes. Does anyone know of any JP gacha streamers or YT channels that might be covering it?
>>2132521Konami's doing a pre-release stream in a couple hours. You could probably just use 幻想水滸伝 as a search term on YT once it launches tomorrow too.
Literally completed Suikoden 1 last month and started 2 yesterday. It's sad that we don't have english since the very first moment because maybe we share server and events with japan, but seeing Viktor, Flik and Odessa made me smile a bit lol. I still have to end 2 and play the other ones, but I hope this gets the Octo0/Another Eden treat and then it becomes a console game.
English assets partially in the game, might be possible that they'll release the game globally when the English translation of the prequel manga ends around October
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The game will use a traditional pity system according to datamining. >The 200-Pull SparkInstead of a visual counter on the summon button that automatically drops a character, you earn one "Gacha Point" per draw. You must manually take 200 points to the Point Exchange shop to buy the guaranteed banner character. >No Carryover (Use It or Lose It)Your points are strictly locked to the specific banner you are pulling on. When that banner ends, your points do not carry over to the next one; they are automatically converted into a generic leftover item. >The 10-Pull GuaranteeA standard gacha safety net applies—every 10-pull you do will guarantee at least one SR (or higher rarity) unit. >The CurrenciesYou will be spending standard tickets, free "Fantasy Stones," and premium/paid "Fantasy Stones." There is also a special "Boost Guaranteed Gacha" that requires you to have a specific minimum balance of Fantasy Stones to even access it.In short, it is a traditional "spark" system with absolutely no pity rollover. If you want a guaranteed character, you must save up enough for 200 pulls on a single banner before you start drawing, or you risk wasting your progress!
>>2132698Is that the starting banner?
>Tir Mcdohl, you know the guy in voluntary exile because he's saddled with a rune that tends to eat the souls of people he cares for?>Roll for that nigga on the first banner hell yeah
>>2132706Not sure about the second banner art, but today's premiere confirmed Tir and Jeane as the launch rate-up banner units.
>>2132698>JeanneSo you got characters that aren't fighting members in the gacha as well, huh?
>>2132705Is there a complete list of gacha characters yet? Seems to be a pretty large pool.
>>2132718Here's one compiled by another dataminer (includes upcoming characters that have partial data baked into the base APK assets): https://pastebin.com/NXQcct4a
>>2132723Said datamine also hints at the player being able to name the mainline Suikoden protagonists to whatever they want
>>2132723Georg being a SR character with that list of future SSR is some nasty work.
>>2132723Leknaat as a R+ is wildAlso Alex without Hilda, what the fuck man. I wanted a battle couple.
>>2132737The back gate rune alone is real shit for anything other than warping around and she gets dunked on by Luc when she tries to stop him.
>>2132727The game has three renameable units: Star Leap's MC (Chao), Suikoden I's MC (in-game default is Rean), and Suikoden II's MC (in-game default is Riliu). Funny that the canon names they're using are from the most recent adaptations rather than the older established ones.
>>2132723Oddly enough, S1 Viki seems to be missing.Curious if this isn't the complete list, and more will be added at launch via data download.
>>2132744Haha that's our Rean
>>2132747Probably incomplete, yeah. Expecting a chunky day one patch.
First event will be about the Liberation Army.
>>2132696Same, I'm also partway through 2 and hope I have enough time to finish it before global. Glad to see the current trend of mobage that should just be proper console games happening with Octopath, Another Eden, and now Final Fantasy too. This game is prime for that treatment but it's Konami, so who knows?
Reminder, Global versions of Japanese gachas get:>either reduced pull income or reduced pull rates, pick your poison>gets shafted for anniversary and other major updates, way less rewards in general, no maintenance or bugfix compensation>EoS as soon as revenue drops even a little>1+ year behind on updates compared to JP versionIt's time to start learning Japanese and play the JP version. Don't fall for the Global meme.
>>2132705Well shit, that's the same as uma, the worst gacha I play. Chinese and Korean gachas have really spoiled me, it doesn't get much worse than this standard Japanese model.
>>2132896that’s usually because the devs decides to not self publish the games and let another company do it, no? is konami self publishing star leap?
>>2132952self publishing global i mean
>>2132896This isnt a square mobage. It being self published means the server cost should be pretty low to begin with especially since they wanna be like another eden.
No mention of exact time for JP mobile release aside afternoon
>>2132995It should be in ~14 hours according to some people on discord
>>2132995jp releases are usually 12 pm, so 9 hours from now.
>>2132995So many big titties in that animated PV, probably the most I've ever seen from this franchise. On a semi-related note, what are the odds this gets collabs with other Konami IPs? Idk how gung-ho they are with collabs in general
>>2133198Viki is the in-game reason for the gacha mechanic. So they can probably have her teleport characters from "other worlds" if they want to.Hopefully it doesn't get the Nier Automata and/or Persona 5 kiss of death.
Should have started with a Jowy banner for fujobux
All languages outside of JP are ~69% (nice) translated
35 of the 44 launch SSRs are obtained through story progression
Party toggles for leader swap and base
and here's S1 Bocchan for nostalgiabros (he's younger in the year Star Leap is set)
>>2133198>>2133251Datamines also say that the great tree the MC's village has can sometimes displace the village itself in and out of time while time freezes for the inhabitants, due to its connections to the Everchanging Rune/Rune of Change. So they can just jump around in the timeline if the writers' whims will it to.
>>2133268Wouldn't they opt to drop both the S2 MC and Jowy and/or Nanami when the Suikoden II anime drops for maximum whale bait? The McDohl heir being the first pick-up unit already is bait enough imo.
>>2133351they’ll probably be banner units in october then
All Settings / OptionsThe settings menu (option_setting_*) is organized into these groups:>AudioMain Volume, Music (BGM), SE, VoicesLet Other Apps Mute Music · Background audio playback · Soften other audio during voice playback>GraphicsGraphic Quality: 1–5 (+ Custom), FPS, Texture quality, Image ResolutionMotion blur · Zoom blur · Chromatic Aberration · Point-light effect · Thermal throttlingMAX NPCs displayed (how many characters render walking around)>ScreenScreen Mode · Fullscreen / Windowed / Borderless Window · Brightness>Display / UIMini-Map on/off · Movement direction marker · Character Name display · Villagescape RestrictionsCharacters Who Won't Appear in Village/Camp the follower-hide option>Controls (Keyboard/Mouse & Controller)Move (Up/Down/Left/Right) · Confirm/Action · Camera (switch, zoom, pan, dolly, in/out, angle)Spirit Skill 1 & 2 · Tab switching · Shortcuts (top-left L / top-right R) · Control cursor w/ mouseTech. Target Selection, War Pause/Resume, and minigame controls (Fishing Action, Swing the Pickaxe, Roll Dice)>BattleAuto / Auto battle speed · Animation Speed · Switch battle speeds · Scenario Auto-Switch (manual/auto) · "Always in front" mode>Game / AccountLanguage · Hero Name (rename) · Village/Camp Name · Data · Return to title · Exit Game · account deletion(There's also a separate in-game "Inquiry/Support" menu with categories: Opinions/Requests, Story, Events, Gacha, Items, Characters, Other.)
Tutorial Image 1 — the gacha screen (a live UI capture)This confirms and adds several things:>"72-Hour Limited!!" banner label — timed banners exist.The banner list on the left (matches our banner data): SSR Guaranteed pickup ("2 days left"), Start Dash Gacha, Dark Galaxy Conqueror ("55 days left"), and Phantasmic Path ("幻想の導き").Featured SSRs shown: Morgan (モーガン), Kika (キカ), and Ran (ラン) — this is a different, later banner state than our v1.0.0 DB (which only had Tir/Jeane/Shapur). So the art shows a Start Dash banner featuring Morgan, Kika, Ran as SSRs.>The Start Dash Gacha rules (new, from the image): "A Start Dash gacha you can pull with a gacha ticket. Across 50 pulls you can select 1 SSR character." — so it's a 50-pull choose-1-SSR beginner banner.Cost shown: "10 pulls / 10 tickets," "5/5 remaining.>"Gacha Details" (ガチャ詳細) button with a magnifying-glass icon — this is where the actual rate table lives, but it's a button that opens a server-fed detail page, not baked text.Tutorial Image 2 — the Exchange / Point shopThis visually confirms the pity/exchange system and adds the pool:>Exchange tabsGacha Pt. Exchange, Piece Exchange, Coin Exchange, Pt. Exchange.>The Start Dash SSR pick poolMorgan, Kika, Ran, each "Exchangeable, 1 remaining" for 50 [points] — confirming the 50-point pick for the Start Dash banner (distinct from the 200-point main pity).>Banner point-types shown with "22 days left" timers.
Will they cross over with Eiyuden?
>>2133342There's got to be a catch, right? Like you need a dozen dupes and their weapon to make them viable.
>>2133345is there a full asset dump yet? I'm mostly interested in the sprites right now anyway.
>>2133340Hm.. seems they are somewhat making progress to get the game out this year.Really wouldn't surprise me to see the Global announcement date at TGS.
>>2133426probably not, they did say all 108 stars of destiny in star leap are new original characters and free to recruit throughout the story.
Goddamn, I'm torturing myself by watching the seven SuikodenLive streams they've done, seeing the story trailer for the first time and the game looks so fuckin' good. Very cool to see how this game is just next door to the S1 locales, right over the mountains each of Rockland. Please get your shit together Japs, and don't screw this up. I haven't seen a multimedia push for a game IP this big in a long time.I just pray my gal Ronnie Bell makes it in eventually.
>>2133453*east of Rockland
are you guys going to play the jp version or waiting for global?
>>2133382Doubtful, I'm sure they loathe it exists. The kickstarter for Eiyuden showing people still loved this series is likely what kicked off Konami dusting off the IP in the first place.>>2133457Waiting for global. My Japanese is still too shit, and this gives some time for the nips to beta test the game so I can go in with foresight, knowledge of what traps to avoid as a new player, and maybe even some extra QoL.
>>2133382Nobody gives a fuck about Eiyuden or it's characters. I don't even think Murayama truly cared all that much with it's subpar ass writing.>>2133457Was going to play JP until I saw that QooAPP doesn't work, just going to wait for now.Too lazy to make a Japanese google account, and I don't have a android phone so it's not like I could even if I wanted to.
>>2133434I know one dataminer's working on a website that will have all data extracted from the game. Dunno how soon it'll go up though.
>>2133426Dupes are core progression, driven by mst_hero_limitbreak (1,568 rows) and confirmed by dialog strings:Limit Break has 7 levels: 0 6 (verified — every hero's ladder in mst_hero_limitbreak runs limitbreak_count 0 through 6). "Maximum Limit Break has been reached" caps at LB6.Two ways to Limit Break (limit_break_item_select_button1/2):Duplicate Characters — pull the same unit again, feed the dupe in.Character Pieces — a shard currency (shortage_own_piece "Not enough character pieces").The dupe/piece conversion rate is explicit:"One duplicate character at max Limit Break or 108 character pieces can be exchanged for one charm." (charm_exchange_note_max_limit_break_conversion)108 is not random — it's the Suikoden "108 Stars of Destiny" number, reused as the piece-per-conversion count.What each LB level grants (from the row data): - unique_skill_level_bonus, up to 2 bonus passive skills (..._limitbreak_bonus_1/2),- special art level (rises 13 across LB06), - and normal-attack art level (13). Plus flat stat gains that also boost equipment effects (limit_break_effect_description).Overflow dupes Charms (Lucky Charms): once a unit is maxed (LB6), further dupes/pieces convert into Charms (common_amulet "Lucky Charm") — equippable accessories with their own passive skills (e.g. amulet_passive_skill_description_1: "+5% MDEF to Lightning allies") and their own enhancement track (amulet_reinforce). So dupes are never wasted.Picrel is an example using Tir/Rean McDohl.
spoilers about How the Time-Skip WorksThe protagonist's home village is built around the Great Tree on the island. It does not move through time normally. Periodically the Great Tree glows, and the entire village 'time-skips' forward — while time inside the village stays frozen.The rule, stated plainly in the story: "The time passed only for those outside the village." The village and everyone in it does not age; the outside world jumps forward.The length of a skip is tied to how long the Great Tree glows. A character hypothesizes on-screen: "Time skipped two years that time. Assuming that the skip period is based on how long it glows, I hypothesize that this skip is three or four [years]."Confirmed "Leaps": an early two-year skip, then a three-year skip that lands the party in year 458 of the solar calendar (S.Y. 458) — which is why the map has both present-day and 'S.Y. 458' versions of towns like Marindolf and Lenankamp.
>>2133495Wew, that's cancer beyond cancer, especially considering Japs like lower rates
>>2133495jeez, dupes are way too powerful.
>>2131997>3.3 GB in-game download
>>2133502One can assume "Season 2" will be pre/post-Suikoden II, and "Season 3" will be pre/post-Suikoden III then.If the village can only go forward in time that means...if the game lasts that long, it should eventually get to Harmonia?
>>2133538At least you can make it so that it'll only download content on demand (third option in the initial download screen btw)
>>2133538Kinda laggy on my 8 GB RAM phone so I had to lower the graphic settings. Tfw can't actually talk to any of the NPCs.
>>2132744One of them isn't the same with others
>>2133374
>>21335675% is nice. what’s the % for banner units?
>>21335740.5% individual. Launch pick-up banner has three characters (Suikoden I MC, Suikoden III Jeane, SSR Shapur), so it adds up to 1.5% for all pick-up characters.
>>2133574Tfw the pre-reg bonus are gacha tickets which can't be used for this one. At least you can skip the prologue from 2nd time for rerolling purpose.
I assume with the 5% rate currency will be stingy. which characters are banner only?
>game is out>but no APK anywhereguess im going to bed...
>>2133624Not like you can install through APK anyway. Game has Play Integrity implemented, meaning it will check if it was installed through Google Play or through sideloading, and Google Play will block the game from running if it finds out you sideloaded.
So we don't get gems for Tir/Jeanne banner? Ugh, I wanted to reroll for them in both JP and GLB since the moment I saw Jeanne in S1 I really liked her and wanted her playable. The game is good but feels stingy for gems, I hope events/story do give a lot or people are gonna drop this game pretty fast. At least I have Suiko2-3-4-5-Tierkreis to entertain myself...
>>2133910JP gachas are always notoriously stingy, especially at release.
Can't believe my wife Odessa isn't in the starting pool.
>>2133967I think there's a version of her that's recruitable(?)
Hello there young McDohl
>intro feels like a normal game>randomly remember it's a gacha when the tree blesses me with a ticket or some shit
>>2133597The new 108 are all recruitable via story, but you get dupes as "duds" on legacy character banners.
>>2133555Suikoden 3's rep being the OG flame champion rather than hugo/chris/geddoe is quite the choice. Also first time he has a name.
how are you guys even playing the game? Jewgle seems to be blocking burner accounts now, it's requiring a SMS code for new accounts that doesn't work when I set my region to Japan
>>2133567>24 SSR on the gacha pool which uses tickets>2 Georg, one SSR and one SR>Main story characters don't have rarity>>2134092I have Japan Jewgle account which I made a few years ago since I didn't want to rely on something like qooapp
>>21335675% is nice for such a dupe heavy game, I was expecting 2%.>>2133590but 0.5% rate up is horrible, I was hoping for 1%. With 5% SSR rates, it should be 2%, but it's a quarter of that, jeez. They really are following the Cygames standard. Any word of character shards can be farmed daily?>>2133790I'm pretty tech illiterate, does this mean emulators are a no go? Or can you run Google Play on an android emulator and play it that way?Wondering if anyone here is playing on emu and if so which one, 'cause my phone is not gonna be able to run this. Emulation's my only hope until the steam release, which could be a year or more away.
>>2134148eventually you unlock this. you can pick two characters to get 1 shard of each every 12 hours so you can eventually 5 star every character you have but not for a long time
>>2134148I've heard that Android 13 works (Bluestacks), but APK files don't work at all, I tried an XAPK and the game refuses to boot due to the built-in DRM. You are essentially forced to make a Japanese Google account and download the game that way. Most free VPNs have also removed their Japan region option recently, so getting a JP account to run the game is a major pain in the ass if you don't already have one.
>>2134120>finally got SSR character which I want from the tickets after lots of rerolling attempts>have to charge my phone now>maintenance in 1 hour pain
>>2134252Jesus. The SaGa mobage had the same thing, right down to the wooden training dummies, but you could spend a few gems to expand it to five training dummies. Does it look like there's an option for that? Eventually I think they added iron dummies to the game that gave more, hopefully they do that.>>2134270Fuuuuuuuck, they are fucking me up so bad by staggering global and steam releases. At least global will use non-Japanese Google Play, so that should work with Bluestacks if I'm understanding what you're saying.
>>2134317Yeah global will be much easier to install, I might just wait since I'm not tech savvy enough to work around the dozen barriers meant to keep baka gaijin from playing.
>>2134270It's because of all the new gacha laws popping up. Companies don't want to take any chances.Probably one of the reasons for the Global delay, they have to implement age gate requirements.
>>2134403>>2134317I finally got it. Log into your secondary Google account you don't care about that much, open Google Play in Firefox with the built-in VPN enabled and set to Japan, then go to Settings in the google play store and change that account to Japan. Don't do it on your main google account since it can fuck with payments and such and you can't change back for 3 months.
>>2134529MumuPlayer with Android 15 and Bluestacks with Android 13 both work, but Bluestacks is ad-infested garbage.
6 SSRs in 20 pulls!
>>2134621(one of them was a dupe)
450 gems for maintenance compensation so you can try getting Suikoden 1 MC by doing 3 single rolls on each reroll attempt if you really want.
>>2134252
>>2080678>>2079532>>2079330I hope they do what Square Enix did and turn this game into a paid game later for consoles once it runs it's course.Of course Konami is known for stupid decisions so them doing this is low.
>>2132698Do we know what the next banner will be?
>>2134861Not sure. I don't think any dataminer's gone and dug through the day one patch yet.
>>2133910you get a f2p version of her from story
>>2132698Bottom one seems to be some kind of permanent gacha although I don't know if the gacha and spark pool will be updated or not later. Supposedly it also includes Suikoden 1 MC, Jeane and Shapur without increased rate but you can't spark them with 200 tokens.
>>2134975My understanding is it's the dedicated "season 1" banner, and will continue to be updated with new characters until the game gets to "season 2"Presumably this game will eventually have the full 108+ from all 5 mainline games. A single banner housing them all would be absurd.
>>2133910>>2134937Jeane is also in the standard banner (not the tutorial banner but the one at the bottom). Rolling on her in the limited banner seems like a trap.
(Almost) All of them in a single spot...
>>2134937Wait, she can fight? What does the charm rune does in combat?
>>2135072yes and haven’t used her
>>2134641I guess good enough reroll for me despite I didn't get the other SSR or any of the SR which I want>>2135032You can't get her with 200 tokens on that one though. I guess we'll have to wait and see if she will be exchangeable after the limited one ends.
Wife spotted.
>>2135138Tfw Suikoden 1 MC kills an ally after he takes 3 actions. I wonder if it won't happen if his front/back row is empty.
how’s the game so far? better than eiyuden chronicle?
>>2135014>>2135014Add in alts, both seasonal and of different rarities, and this has the potential to be in the top 5 biggest gacha rosters out there.Makes me wonder how often and how many they'll release at a time. SaGa RSRS had some banners with 4 or 5 new chars at once, they even did a Seven Heroes banner with all seven on it as the only SSRs in the pool. Unless they expect this to last 10+ years, they'll have to release a lot of them quickly.
>>2135203Far better. It's a fantastic game and a worthy successor to the Suikoden games. It's not a cheap cashgrab like a lot of other gachas. It feels like a mainline Suikoden game but with deeper combat and more QoL features.
>>2135143Holy fucking abs. Tall, too. Yet very feminine face and hair. This is an extreme rarity in Japanese media, a wonderful discovery to be treasured.>>2135217Seems like they went the Octopath route where they made a gacha that has better gameplay/mechanics than the console games and a better "world" (freely moving around towns/forests/dungeons rather than just switching between menus and battle screens) than most gacha games.
>>2135143HUGE GIRL
>>2135203Enemies resist specific normal attack types are annoying desu.
Have you found non-story recruitables aside the mouse in Gregminster well?
>>2135306>pvpgross
are you guys rerolling or nah
>>2135312get 24 ssr for pvp and you might be good
>>2135306evil women SEXSEX WITH EVIL WOMEN!>>2135312it takes 1 minute to reroll, there's no reason not to. you can skip the tutorial. you can end up with 6+ SSRs just rerolling for an hour or two
>>2135342
>>2135351fuuuuuarkk
>>2135351If Windy looked like this instead of some androgynous hag I initially mistook for a dude in drag, she would've won.
MC has 3 versions?
>>2135656Skins. Tied to story progression. Him in Imperial soldier garb is from Chapter 1 (Scarlet Moon Empire/Liberation Army Beginnings arc), and him in a school uniform is Chapter 2 (academy arc at Lordlake, Falena).
>>2135555Funny thing to mention. Here's a list of upcoming characters with partial data following the launch of the game. >Suikoden I cast (queued)Gremio, Cleo, Pahn, Kasim, Milich, Kwanda, Teo, Sonya, Griffith, Kirkis, Valeria, Kasumi, Fukien, Ted, Kai, Kimberly, Leon, Crowley, Sarah, Alen, Glenshiel, Windy, Barbarossa, Neclord, Ain, Sasuke, Hanzo (ninja)>Suikoden II cast (queued)Jowy (the S2 deuteragonist), Nanami, Shun Min, Zegai, Hai Yo, Futch, Milia, Long Chan-Chan, Rina, Killey, Ridley-adjacent names, Lorelai, Camille, Yam Koo>Suikoden III / IV / V cast (queued)Hugo, Chris, Geddoe, Ace, Queen, Joker, Percival, Borus, Salome, Rahal, Belcoot, Lyon, Miakis, Sialeeds-adjacent, Lymsleia, Euram, Roog, Sialeeds, "幻想5主人公" (Suikoden V hero), Norma, etc.>Other/Star Leap originals queuedMondo, Suigetsu, Rinxiang, Uraku, Randou, Tsubaki, Ronnie Bell, Leona, Sid, Eilie, Mina, Rubi, Sheena, Reanne, Annallee, Beecham, Subala, Nikea, Wakaba, Yoran, Chadli, Goesch, FubarThe "closest to release" signal~30 of them carry the 未確定 ("undetermined") title flag — meaning their epithet isn't finalized, exactly like Neclord. These are the most WIP tier: Neclord, Barbarossa, Windy, Ain, Belcoot, Miakis, Hugo, Gremio, Futch, Kwanda, Camille, Lorelai, Lucia, Long Chan-Chan, Killey, Rahal, Shun Min, Mitsuba, Marina, Zegai, Hai Yo, Nikea, Subala, Wakaba, Yoran, Chadli, Goesch, Fubar, Liukan, Yam Koo and a few more.
>>2135685Oh wow, I didn't expect villains since there's more than enough characters to draw upon with the 108 Stars of each game>Ronnie BellMY GIRL'S IN!!!Why's she tagged as Other instead of Suikoden 1? Is it a younger version of her original to Star Leap?
>>2135685>Sasuke on I despite he was only playable on IIWeird. Some other stuff like Fubar (Hugo Pet Griffon) on Other instead of III is also weird desu.
>>2135685No sign of the Luca panic button yet.Surprising lack of Suikoden II characters in general, guess they are waiting for season 2 for the inevitable Jowston/Dunan visit.
>>2135697>SasukePossible misspelling of Sansuke, the bath guy.A few oddities in general, like Shun-Min being in SII (despite being dead by that point), ditto with Camille being in SII, Eillie being in "other" and not with Rina, etc.
the fishing game is pissing me off. need 1 eel for one of the side quest but can’t get one and need to wait for the wait time
>>2135874Freaks in LordlakeSun Rune Nuke 'em again.
>>2135237there’s another well character. in ロードレイク/ on the right part of the map if you go into the well at night this character will join
Huh, thought Star Leap's MC would break the mold by being just some normal shmuck. Turns out he does end up becoming a True Rune bearer (Rune of Change) like other Suikoden MCs by the end of Chapter 1, with rune waifu Hisui as a bonus. If I recall, there have never been cases of runes attaining human form, right? I do know the final boss of Suikoden II is a berserk True Rune, but that took on the form of a wolf and not a human if I remember correctly.
>>2135681more like alts instead of skins since each one has their own stats and skills. can’t use two of them on the same team
>>2135143that's a man
>>2135854
>12 chests in Lenankamp>only found 6
>>2136250I think you can't get some chests until chapter 2. They should have split the number of chests desu.
>>2136065We still don't know what the deal with Jeane and Raura. Maybe they're also runes in human form consider they don't seem to age
>>2136250https://www.kaiden.gg/suikoden-star-leap/map/
now that the dust is settled what’s the point of these fights when it just spam the same move over and over? also the cat girl is stronger than the rest of the fights
>>2136443That one doesn't show chests which are inside some buildings in town
>>2136473probably an attempt to call back to the mainline's duel system?
>>2136250>>2136443>>2136481Have you also checked locations that are only accessible during certain times of day (in-game)?
>>2136534I think it counts the treasure chests in Year 458 Lenancamp for some reason.
>>2136565Isn't it Year 455? Unless there's another tree-induced time jump by Chapter 3?
>>2132705there’s one ticket you can exchange for 100 points which has the 3 rate up character you randomly get one of the three when used. no extra random filler just the three characters
>>2136577There is Year 458 Lenankamp according to >>2133502 and >>2136443. The chests in Marindolf presumably have same problem. From what I know, Chapter 3 isn't actually playable yet. Maybe the devs accidentally put the map data already.
>currently stuck on a bossthey should add recommended level desu>>2135312>got 2 SSR which I want from rerolling>tried rolling with the tickets and gems after I cleared main story chapter 1>got 0 SSR aside the guaranteed from rolling 50 ticketspain
>>2136618Main story is still doable with free characters at least although you will need to grind a lot more compared to players who have lots of SSRs.
>>2136580Tryin' to understand what you're saying here 'cause I'm sleepy and retarded. Are you saying you can exchange 100 pity points for a random rate up SSR or choose to go to 200 pity points to get one of your choice?
>>2136618the same thing happened to me>reroll for ideal SSRs>get jack fucking shit from the freebie tickets (5% rates btw)>get raped in PvP by meta teams with dupes
>>2136597Year 458 should be after the Gate Rune War, right? And some time before the Dunan Unification War.
>>2136642>exchange 100 pity points for a random rate up SSROnly once on the gacha with time limit
>>2134252>87.5 days for each star increase so it will take more than 1 year to 5 star a specific character without dupes
>>2135306wasn’t too bad
>>2136954I remember playing a gacha called Alchemist Code where it took a year to max dupe a character and the game fucking ended service before I could these types of shard systems are always a scam, either the game EoSes or the character is powercrept by the time you finish them
>>2136954Shards for story characters can be gotten by doing missions like raise their level to 30/40, increase their bond rank to B/S and upgrade their weapon to S rank on Tablet of Stars>>2136984Is this unlocked on chapter 2?>>2136998Some old characters eventually got buffed on that one at least so they're still usable outside of PvP or gimmicky quests where you need to respect their mechanics.
>>2136902Ah, so for each limited banner you can random pity for 100 once, and 200 hard pity unlimited times?Might be good if all the SSRs on a banner are desirable and you can't hit 200 pulls before it ends. I'm concerned what the pull currency income for f2p will be like in such a dupe heavy game. JP games tend to be stingy, and all the stingiest ones I've seen/played have been Japanese, but there's also been some extremely generous Japanese ones (that sadly don't live long).
>>2136954>this kills the gachaA friend of mine refused to pick up Sword of Convallaria once he realized it took 100 days (300 shards at 3 shards for 3 characters a day) to max a character, and I remember he was really looking forward to it and liked the other aspects of the game. That game's facing issues with the shard system because now you're getting people skipping good characters since there's no room for them in the daily shard mines and by the time they're maxed, the next wave of powercreep will have arrived anyway. It just happened to me, I just used some very rare resource to finish maxing a character last week to free up a slot in the mines, and next week his direct replacement releases and I missed the window where he would've been quite useful by several months.And you're saying this game is worse than that by several orders of magnitude? They need to triple the shard gain or more, but they'll probably just give double shards for a couple weeks at anniversary and call it generosity.>>2136998>these types of shard systems are always a scam, either the game EoSes or the character is powercrept by the time you finish themThe only game that ever did it right was SaGa RSRS. Not only could you farm them daily for 5 characters, but the game gave insane amounts of pulls (not that dupes mattered, you never ever had to pull for dupes) and, most importantly, handed out universal shards like candy. I could max any character I pulled the day I pulled them after the first year or two. It cost 600 shards to max a character and by the time global had EoS'd, I had long maxed all of my hundreds of characters and ended the game with like 20,000 or 30,000 universal shards left over.I think it's still going on JP but goddamn, that was one of the best I ever played and global dying was a tragedy.
second pvp character. get to s3 and win two more times and you get promoted to bronze 1. opponents are random instead of you choosing. highest rank is master
The theme that plays when you get an SSR in the gachahttps://youtu.be/l6e2nSMDBrA
>>2136618Someone said they rolled 295 times but only got 3 SSR
>>2137343neeeeeeeeed big woman
>>2136954>need 30 stamina to raise one character level cap>1 stamina every 12 minutesThey should make it 5 minutes desu >>2134641>another maintenance tomorrow which is twice as long than previous oneI wonder if they will give 900 gems. Too bad this 450 gems one will be removed.
Once you unlock Hunt 10 you can farm these characters for free (5 stamina for 1 shard, total of 875 stamina for the character)
Chinchirorin is in the game, but you can only play 3 times a day.Which is probably for the best, cause I'm about to throw the phone into a wall. All 3 bets ended with the CPU throwing 4-5-6 on the first throw.I didn't even get to touch the dice.I really hate Chinchirorin.
>>2137839might want to get top left since they’re the only fire healer
>>2137855Nick is more important IMO>highest speed of any tank>Parry reduces incoming damage by 90%>counterattacks when he's hit>gets a big ATK/DEF buff after he's hit 4 times so he can output some pretty good damageTanks are really fucking good in this game
>>2137819>1 stamina every 12 minuteswhat the fuck. I've played more of these games than I can count and I think the highest I ever saw was 1 every 10 minutes.
>>2079330Sell me Suikoden I&II, always being curious about this series
>>2137922Tfw stamina potion exists but it only restores 10 stamina. I guess they tried to balance it with the fact the EXP which characters get at level cap if you grind in overworld are saved so the characters will automatically level up to their actual level once you raise their level cap.Although high level alone doesn't automatically make a character good, you still need to upgrade their skills, runes and gears.
Any sign yet of randomly rolled sub-stats or other sources of RNG inside RNG either on a thing you equip to characters or a passive tied to the characters themselves? I don't play hoyo games but I think the term in Genshin is artifacts, but if you play gacha you inevitably run into it in other games.I think that's the only thing missing so far here off my bingo card of things I hate most in gacha games.Star Leap is such a marriage of the things I want most and things I want least in a mobage, two extremes combined.
former RomaSaGa enjoyer here, shard dojo in that one was (still is for JP) great and for the meta styles you just used universal shards from various shops and events etc.
>>2138010The left one is guaranteed drop from battle but the stats are RNG. The right one is upgrading armor and accessories with extra stat (the stat is fixed like Physical Defense but the percentage amount is RNG)
>>2138072Goddammit, not again.The only game that's ever done this well is Azur Lane. Every time you roll stats, you're guaranteed to get higher ones, fixing your result as the new "floor". And the variance is so small, like 1 to 5, or 1 to 10, with no decimals, so three rolls usually maxed something for life. And the stat reroll currency's plentiful and ultimately, and this is the key part, they didn't matter or change if you won or lost a battle.Does it cost more of the stingy stamina to farm those things, or can you at least grind as much as you want?>>2138047My brother, good to see you again. Hope you've been taking it Thereasy
>>2138072The left one only has different in percentages as well. The stats are fixed depending on which item.>>2138078You don't really need to min-max that much for main story so far at least although chapter 2 bosses have much higher difficulty spikes compared to chapter 1.
Only six days left on the current banner? I forgot how quickly JP gachas release new units
>>2138227The premium currency gain is not looking good so far, I've played a lot and I only have 60 pulls without spending any. Events will have to give a lot otherwise I don't think f2p will be able to keep up with 3 new units every 2 weeks.
>>2137343>did 70 rolls with gems + 70 tickets and only got 1 SSR>the SR are mostly dupes instead ones which I didn't have yetI guess I will be like that person soon (tm)>>2138237>60 from daily and 180 from weekly so at least 600 each weekToo bad we still don't know if there will be an actual login bonus after the current special ones are gone.
>>2138237That's grim, considering almost all gacha frontload the majority of pulls via the big chunk of main story they tend to launch with.
>>2138237I don't know if I want to roll for new characters unless they're my favorites since this stamina gating the mats to raise them is painful for me desu.
>>2138333>Need magic, sword and fighter teams for bosses>Need specific element team for tower and other stuffThe start is definitely painful. Using 6 same SSRs won't always work.
>>2138342The stagger system practically incentivizes you to have as much powered up characters as possible that can cover different weaknesses
Van is kinda trash compared to Rei.
>>2138374>VanWho? You are kinda forced to raise Lian and another Lightning Sword character which you will get on chapter 2 to have easier time on a boss if you don't have better ones
6 hour maintenance
https://x.com/FFRKRS/status/2086266174451642431
sex
new banner
someone on leddit managed to bruteforce the game into loading in the unfinished EN script, but haven't revealed how they did it
1500 gems if you want to reroll on either rate-up gacha
>>2138680>>2138689Suikoden 1 MC, SSR Jeanne and SSR Shapur are supposedly included on this one despite no rate-up for them so this one is probably better for rerolling desu unless you want a specific character
>>2138698All of the current rate-ups are in standard banner
>>2138705Can't spark them on that one though or at least get the ticket which guaranteed any of the rate-up by doing 100 rolls
>>2138680>2/3 chance to get female rate up>maledid they mess up and release the banner early? no news post about it on twitter
suikoden star leap is peak, i'm afraid
>>2138764Too busy with new bugs maybe
>>2138860https://x.com/pakosun/status/2087531003124523313
>>2138698oh good more chances to get disappointed that i don't get tir kek
>>2138680>10 pulls away from pityif I get the male I'm uninstalling
>game is a bout Hikusaak founding Harmonia w/ the power of gacha
>>2137332>pvpall interest lost
>>2138957The PvP is army battle mode, not regular fighting and you can skip the fight to get the rewards instantlyIt's not too bad at all as someone who hates gacha PvP
>>2138698Tempted to reroll if not for the fact I already wasted lots of time grinding level cap mats and other stuff
>>2138769Dwarves are in?!
>>2138970Same I hate the fact that we didn't get the free 1.5k gems until today, would've made the reroll so much better
>>2139065>>2138970Rerolling is probably still worthwhile given how good the current banner is and how awful the premium currency gain is, a god-tier reroll account would likely still be better than a "normal" account that has played for monthsI think I will try rerolling a second account on the side while continuing to play my main account in case I get fucked by the gacha
>>2139088Maybe I will do it after they release actual limited gacha units. I wonder when it will happen or they're doing something like Another Eden gacha in which there are no limited gacha units.
You can't use two versions of the same character at the same time.As in, you can't have Hisui and SSR Hisui in the same party or SSR Georg and SR Georg. However, you can have Neaje and Jeane in the same party.
>>2139113>actual limited gacha units.They're definitely going to release seasonal variants gbf-style, just wait for Valentine, Halloween, Christmas, New Year, and Summer banners I guess
Reminder to do them even if you aren't going to roll
>>2138952>>2138680game stays installed
Clear 50 tower floors to get her
>>2139433minimum power requirement for floor 50 clear?
>>2139433This is a new character, right? Not from any previous game?
>>2139686It's Raura from SII with a different name (Ruaar)Similar to that Neaje/Jeane thing.
How do I beat the thieves on the way for the 3rd trial after riding the ship? They hits like 3 times and everyone down very quickly. Hisui even doesn't get any turns to heal because the archer thieves kill her early.
>>2139817check equipment. if you equipped something that you got from one of exchange for two medals those things nerf your stats by 30 or 40% and the game will put them on your characters if you select auto equip
>>2139830Which medal exchange?I only remember equipping normal things only. Can't check it now since there's maintenance for at least another hour.I'm trying to pool the special moves gauge so I can release it at once, but the enemy levels in the area is quite high so I need to use some as well.Maybe I need to include Eileen in the party since she got unlimited stock of healing and a tank to cover for her.
>>2139840these. also another multi pull worth of gacha currency given out for maintenance
Tfw I got 9R 1 SR or 8R 2 SRs rolls multiple times while some other players got 2 and more SSRs in 1 multi
>>2139902I finally win with Xiao(?) only standing left, but maybe they intended for us to incorporate Saki and Rihyou to the party as a guest, as their level is 35 already.
>>2139902All these maintenance apologies. No wonder they delayed global.
>>2139902>fresh reroll accounts don't get the 1500 gemsIt's over.
>>2140141I'm actually kinda mad that they only now gave out 3000 gems instead of right at launch kek
I guess there is no reason to save this
Is best girl in?
>>2140860Majority of the launch roster is S1 characters I think, so probably not
>>2140049Finally finished chapter 2I guess by 3rd trial, the honeymoon period is over as the battles are getting harder that you must invest properly to build your partyDid chapter 3 has been properly released or will stop at 3-0?I lost against RanRinTen and thinking to slowly build the party to at least lv 35 first before challenging them again
250 more gem. there was supposed to be another login bonus starting today but will start tomorrow instead if you logged in for 7 days already
>>2140999Stops when you finish 3-0, yeah. But yeah, mid-to-late Chapter 2 is when you actually start to think about your setups and ways to manipulate turn order as much as possible.
It's Suikoden V all over again, though it tracks since the guy that wrote SV's working is working on Star Leap.
>>2140394>Morgan from the ticketI guess he is new at least although anyone else would have been better
>>2141377I don't remember V having any harem aside from Lyon? Unless you're counting Lymsleia kek
>>2141792Frey had girls crushing on him, but so did Lazlo, Riou, and Tir. So I don't really get the "harem" thing.Probably the fault of the stupid chapter 2 school arc. Hopefully future chapters aren't nearly as obnoxious with it.
Should I transform my G/F grade armors with the blacksmith girl or can I get better armors from monster drops later?
>>2137966>can't defeat evil woman>have some stamina potions which will expire in 2 days>no event announcement Guess I will just use them to raise my characters instead>>2141986I haven't saw monsters drops armors aside from the EX battles reward
generous? https://x.com/GensoSuikodenSP/status/2088551278959857945
>>2142733
>>2142741Does this mean it's a permanent event story, like how Another Eden does events?
>>2142843Who knows although the original teaser has some kind of mission in which you need to login 5 days during an event so maybe not.
>1 week of rerolling laterIt's time to game.
>>2142948What's the optimal/god reroll looking like?What about the more realistic "good enough and still better than most" reroll?
>>2143011Something like this or just reroll for your favorites if they exist
>Tfw beta testingI already had some problem before they posted this like collecting gems reward takes longer time now compared to last week>>2143011Good support like SSR Marie and Jeanne. A few good DPS like SSR Georg, Fu Su Lu and SSR Viki.
>>2143011GOD TIER:>Marie (Magical Girl) + Tyr or Georg + Mace>Shirin + Tyr or Georg + Mace>Shapur + Tyr or Georg + MacePRETTY GOOD>multiple copies of Tyr, Georg, or Mace by themselves>multiple copies of Egil + 1 copy of Marie, Shirin, or Shapur. Egil becomes a beast at dupe 2 and buffs Kika (who you get for free) pretty wellBasically the Earth team is completely overpowered. Lightning is good too but its more dupe reliant. Also, the limited banner has absolute dogshit rates at 0.5% for the banner character, it took me many days to get something good. A more reasonable reroll would just be rerolling for Georg and a standard support character like Mace.
>>2143034I'm still raising Jeane but I find her quite underwhelming desu, the aoe heal is nice I guess but Hisui does the healing job better. Her accuracy is kinda lacking and her damage isn't even that great
>>2143226Most healers in this game kinda suck because they have D-tier or worse speed and only 2 or 3 uses on their heal. If you need to survive it's better to add a self-healing tank to your party and give them every defense buff possible.
Do you guys think the GLOBAL version will end up on same server ? I keep wondering because the current JP app has the english text translation within it.
>>2143400>supposedly there will be cross play with Steam version >Steam page for JP and EN is currently the same page
out of context
91 weeks to get 175 shards>>2143437I wonder if they will add server selection at start menu.
>unannounced emergency maintenance It's over. At least I wasn't doing anything important.
>>2143579600 more gems
100 pulls and an ssr ticket and I finally got Tir....got 10 more pulls with the maintenance reward, guess I'm just gonna wait for limited op banner now
one hour maintenance for account selling 2026/08/17 11:00:00 〜 2026/08/17 12:00:00
>>2143905they should just disable account linking until the player clears chapter 1
Could anyone tell me how to beat RanRinTen on ch 3?They hit so hard I can't progress the story.
>>2144049grind
>>2144049bro your Vargas with every Defense buff known to man?
>>2144064B-but that's like end contents build already.What will there left to do from here on?But really, mobage should really break itself from permanent level cap and make it uncap for every month. Without it, the gacha pressure is too great too handle for most people and they will dismiss themselves whenever their stone stock is depleted.
>>2144095Tfw need endgame team to get >>2139433 but she joins at level 20. The balancing is wacky.
>>2143170Good to know, thanks>>2143034Glad to hear Fu Su Lu is not only in, but also good>>2143021Hot damn, I would never see that in my life, even if I spent weeks rerolling
I just got MarieWho do I replace for her?
>>2144323Maybe either Varkas or Kika unless you really need 2 tanks in the battle since they cover different damage types.
>>2144327>Kika breaks 3 Sword every turn and is my only way to kill those annoying non-sword immune floating orbs>but Varkas can tank a hundred hits without dyingI don't know who to remove...I guess Varkas is less valuable but it feelsbadman
>>2144334Remove Mace then since you don't really need 2 buffers aside on bosses or harder stuff although Marie is better for Magic team desu
you guys DID make millions of coins with trading and bought every resource before they nerfed it in the maintenance patch notes....RIGHT?
>>2144421no but I did manage to beat floor 50 of mirage tower which is a free win compared to the floor 40 to 49
So with the recent update and banner, who should I reroll for now?Anyone you guys recommend?
>>2144456This maintenance was only for fixing the trading bug right?
>>2144463a bunch of stuff changed https://x.com/GensoSuikodenSP/status/2089187501592416509 also not mentioned but they might have done something with people selling accounts
>>2144470
>>2144452Georg and Stallion are both top-tier DPS and pretty easy to get since they're in the beginner bannerrerolling for a limited character is AIDS due to the 0.5% rate-up chanceeither reroll for one top-tier DPS or a DPS+a good supportAlso, this Gamewith tier list says Fu Su Lu is top-tier, but I don't agree with that since he never gets to act due to his E-tier speed, so I would not reroll for him.
>>2144463
when's global coming anyway, missing out on all these maint gibs
>>2144984honestly just play jp with auto-translate or something, it's not like the story is that great anyway kek. jp gacha scene is also in the shitter right now so chance of the global version not lasting long is high
>>2144984>>2145005global is 70% translated, which in JP devspeak means 1 year awayBut yeah like the other guy said the JP version of JP gachas is always superior to global. More rewards, you get content a year sooner, the devs actually give a shit about you and the server doesn't EoS in less than a year.
>>2145005>>2145105I don't want to rely on AI hallucinated skill descriptions etc. Hope they're done enriching global client sometime soon.
>>2145005???JP players have been singing high praises for the game's story though, which felt like it is written like a mainline Suikoden, with the only sticking point being that Chapter 2's school arc felt a bit too "Narou" aka webnovel slop-ish for most of its runtime.
>got 19/20 treasure chests in world map>found out there is 1 treasure chest in south of Sauronix according to >>2136443>can't get it because a wall preventing progress despite I already finished all currently available storyHate this shit
>>2145405change time
>enter the Wind element tower>a single wolf is tankier than the ch2 final bosswhat the fuck did they put in the water here?
>>2145417Still blocked. Too bad presumably it won't be fixed anytime soon since normal users don't know there is a treasure chest there.
Any RS Re;Universe peeps here? This game looks so fuckig good I can't wait for global I may just start the jp version
>>2145379Eh I'm at the start of chapter 2 and so far the story is pretty par for the course for a gacha game. The gameplay loop is really fun tho for now and I like building a lot of characters.
next banner when ?
What’s the best way to earn money again? I keep running out of it
>>2145832
>>2136195This banana and garnet ones are worse desu. Tfw no 5* banana on trade and the minigame only gives me 4* ones max so far.
>>2144095Finally able to pass this TonChinKan.Apparently I still thought to beat TenTen first because of the skill description on the last encounter, which is now gone.So now I went for RinRin first instead and finally the combination attack didn't activated.Funnily enough, it still activates even if the other chars are down which destroy my backline.Time to progress the story.
>>2145938Oof best I've gotten from this was 30k
>>2145962Managed to get the banana so only the garnet one left.
Do Suikoden characters really eat this much food?
>>2146518The characters in Suikoden 2 cooking minigame eat 6 food dishes
>>2145508Hey bro, I'm here. Pixel goodness is hard to find, after RSRS global died, all I've had are CotC and SoC. Seems like SaGa's moved to 3D outside of mobile games, sadly.I'll be monitoring this thread til global comes out. I don't have much faith at all in Konami, but at least they're throwing a lot of money at a Suikoden renaissance. Would be nice if it got one like the SaGa renaissance that RSRS brought about, with more remasters and JP-onry things brought to a global audience.
maintenance
Maintenance finishedAnd they fixed the high buy rate trade already
>>2147574yeah bur in exchange they've uncapped how much trade coins you can hold now
>>2147603But it will be harder to build up the coins, especially since they put up so many appraisal items which is very expensiveUnless they made the shop reset daily
Did 180 rolls with gems so far and still have some gems from stages and rank D rewards which I haven't get yet. Too bad presumably EN version won't get the gems from current bugs and maintenances.
>>2146468>Finally got 2* garnet from mining>It changed to 3* in result screen Hate this shit. Guess I will try getting it from the EX battle instead once my characters are strong enough.
>>2138689>175 stamina for each character from 45 to 50>also need to stamina to upgrade their passives and weapons Pain. I wonder if they will increase the level cap to 99 although the mainline games can be cleared with level 50-70 characters.
Raise your bunny
>>2147997>bunny gets +200% ATK and S-tier speed for freewhy is this alloweda literal bunny is stronger than most major characters from past suikoden games
School arc is really boring so far, it's cool to see Galleon again after all these years but that's about it
>>2149212Yeah it was horrible. No idea what the developers were thinking, no one wants to play through a poorly-written Harry Potter knockoff mixed with the worst anime tropes.
>>2149212My problem is the school arc is mostly just battles instead of actually learning new stuff in the school
>>2149287Really? From what I can see, JP players really loved Chapter 2 except for those who felt it leaned into webnovel tropes a bit much
>>2150018>JP PlayersJP players notoriously have terrible taste. Like how in every popularity poll they vote for Worst Girl, or in a top 10 games list they will list 9 Dragon Quest games and a Zelda game.
>>2149212When the game can't lean on past games it falls flat on it's face. Almost all the original characters and story beats are trash.What really gets me is the series already had a damn school they could've told their stupid school story at. They didn't need to waste Falena on this crap.>>2150018JP has zero taste. This is known.
>>2149397Oh fuck the bunny is strong >>2150218I think they just want to save Suikoden 2 areas until later, plus Greenhill having all these battle-ready student warriors would just be weird kek. Comparing this arc to Greenhill also makes me sad, because in something like 30 - 40 minutes Greenhill was able to tell a story about war and desperate situation leading people to fight each other, and this arc in Star Leap really has no message to say.
>>2150018>the land of no taste.png
>she goes to sleep if you AFK on her character page for long enoughsovl
>>2150285The Greenhill bit is one of my favorite parts of Suikoden II, so I'm not insulting it in the least. The flashback especially is one of the best scenes in the game.I'm just pissed that of all the directions they could've taken a post Suikoden V Falena, they went with turning Lordlake into a fantasy Japanese High School.
>my bunny just acted twice in a rowI'm starting to think S-rank speed characters are pretty busted...
>>2150285>>2151953>tfw Greenhill is the next part of my Suikoden II playthroughI'm ready for kino, boys. But first, cooking minigame! I don't really get how it works, but I passed the first one.
>can listen to full OP song ingameI wonder if they will actually use it later>>2153068Just get a lot of different cooking recipes
>>2135143GodDamn
>>2153068When in doubt try tomato + red pepper as a main course, it almost always worked for me
>>2153268Surely that's not meant to be a redesign of Luserina. Surely they wouldn't fuck up her hairstyle and clothes like that.
>>2153506It's supposed to be a older Luserina.Not as shit as Lotte getting turned into a Atelier character, but still not a great redesign.
>>2153519It doesn't even look like the same character, what the fuck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuLcjYbwYrc>local turtle is fucking invincible
>>2153524Many such cases
>>2154071
I'm waiting every week for updates from trading post but this isn't coming out at all. My whole family is waiting to eat it and we're so hungry we're about to die.
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLeL1q4lo2AtISomeone's doing a translated playthrough of Star Leap on YouTube, if anyone's interested. Only up to Chapter 1-5 rn.
Why is gold so scarce in this game? Even the appraisal is rng meanwhile upgrading weapons, armors, and runes are all so expensive
>>2155819Tfw I currently have 800k from grinding level cap mats but no mats to upgrade weapons and I still haven't even finished grinding level cap mats.
>>2155819>>2155890I'm too scared to spend gold until I know what characters are good, I'm just hoarding gold like a dragon and keeping weapons/armor at B rank for nowmaybe the events will give more gold, because currently its unsustainable considering the game wants you to raise like 30 characters and maxing out one character is easily 2 million gold if not more
>>2155903MC is forced on main story battles so I'm focusing on him first. Tfw no mats to upgrade his weapon to A rank.
banner news posted on twitter four different banners too busy wageslaving to check https://x.com/GensoSuikodenSP/status/2092176546278805825
>>21564241st banner is Odessa, "oh nice i could threw a mult-"3rd banner is Flik, "well I want him since he was one of my main characters in both suikoden 1&2-"4th banner is Viktor. I'm fucked. He's the character I used the most and put the broken build for him in both games, and I found his interactions funny. Global account will be hard since I want Tir and Viktor in my account.
>>2155890800k sounds a lot until you realize the S-grade armors from the blacksmith cost like 110k a piece, and rune upgrades cost 70k for the first tier and 200k+ for the second tier, and that's only for a single character
>>2156424I guess I'm gonna have to stop upgrading Viktor and Humphrey now since I might get their SSR forms one day
>>2156424For those who can't be assed to open Twitter:◆The Path We Bravely Tread - 2026/08/26〜2026/09/09・Part 1 "SSR Odessa"・Part 2 "SSR Saphia"・Part 3 "SSR ???" (From Suikoden II) ◆The Path We Bravely Tread 2 - 2026/09/02〜2026/09/16・Part 1 "SSR Humphrey"・Part 2 "SSR Mare"・Part 3 "SSR ???" (From Suikoden I) ◆The Path We Bravely Tread 3 - 2026/09/09〜2026/09/24・Part 1 "SSR Flik"・Part 2 "SSR Diana"・Part 3 "SSR ???" (From Suikoden I) ◆The Path We Bravely Tread 4 - 2026/09/16〜2026/09/30・Part 1 "SSR Viktor"・Part 2 "SSR ???" (Appears in "Under the Flag of the Liberation Army") ・Part 3 "SSR ???" (From Suikoden I)
>>2156517>>2156424>DianaYou WILL roll for her
>>2156589maybe if they remove the restriction of using same character
>>2156589I'm more interested on the secret characters desu
>>2156611Here's ur secret Suikoden II character, bro
>>2155903Some free characters like Neaje once fully maxed are good desu
Almost finished with the school arc, they're so going to give Vale a training arc, make him lose weight, and turn him into an ssr bishie aren't they
>>2142733I wonder what do they mean by 2 new SSR character. Are they 2 characters which aren't in the gacha at all or just something like SSR Odessa so rolling on the gacha are just for dupes?
>>2156752They posted the timeline for banners on twitter. >Banner one SSR Odessa, SSR Saphia, SSR ??? (Suikoden II character)>Banner two SSR Humphrey, SSR Mare, SSR ??? (Suikoden 1 character)>Banner three SSR Flik, SSR Diana, SSR ??? (Suikoden 1 character)>Banner four SSR Viktor, SSR ??? (Event character), SSR ??? (Suikoden 1 character)So I'm going to assume new characters, I doubt they'd bother with the "???" otherwise
>>2156818That's not what he's talking about. The devs promised 2 (free?) characters that we can max limit break, presumably from playing the new event. But the wording is ambiguous so it maybe they aren't free.
>>2156738
>>2156840Ranran, Rinrin and Tenten also have placeholder data for their 108 version. I wonder if they will get SSR version in the future
Never played suikoden. But I liked the boobs on one of the characters
>>2156850Suikoden V had 10/10 tits
>>2156481I have the same faves as you, I'm just as fucked. I know they have far more characters to get through than most gacha based on existing IPs, but man, this game is gonna be hell for collectors or people who like more than a small handful of characters. Seems to be going the Japanese route of pretending there aren't f2p and everyone spends at least a little bit if not more.At least we'll have foresight, because between the banner onslaught and obscene amount of time and resources it takes to max a character, we'll need to laser focus on the few that are worth it and maybe a fave or two.On a completely unrelated note, for those of you playing JP, what are the army battles like?
Have you reach 1 million battle power?>>2157020>army battle It's real time and controlling the units are annoying on my phone. At least the current story ones are autoable. I press skip button instead on PvP army battles.
>>2156481>Odessa gacha supposedly will have 1% rate for each featured character instead of 0.5% JP players are still beta testers literally
>he rolled on the 0.5% rate scam bannersoh no no no no AHAHAHAHAHA
>>2157030>that teamGlorious
Tfw permanent gacha is useless now since expired points from rolling on featured banners can also be exchanged with season 1 SSR characters>>2157045It's made worse by the fact that those characters aren't limited so there's no reason to roll unless you like or need those characters. I guess we'll have to wait and see if Odessa is limited or not.
>>2157106>permanent gacha is useless nowI wonder if they will change how featured banners work like Humphrey banner won't include Odessa.
Lovere Academy, teachers are quitting left and right Is that academy going to be okay? Is Galleon's retirement going to be okay?
>>2156738That or make him one of the 108 Stars, probably not one of the Ten- stars though
Dataminer-san please spill the secret characters in new banner
>>2158126It's Jowy
SSR Odessahttps://files.catbox.moe/quxqeb.mp4SSR Jowyhttps://files.catbox.moe/fiscg7.mp4SSR Saphiahttps://files.catbox.moe/ydlka8.mp4
game is up
>>2158172oh dang jowy this early?
free ssr at 4k points from the event. new characters give 15% bonus. can only do two attempts per day
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>>2158172>>2158345>Tried rolling>Saphia from 20 rollsI was hoping for Jowy but I guess I will just back to saving since they are still not actually limited nor of them are my actual favorite characters
>>2158305>>2158345Leona original appearance was in II and she was never mentioned in I. Adding new lore that she was actually involved with Odessa then somehow went missing before Suikoden I started is kinda weird desu.
>>2158345odessabros...we're dogshit?
>yet another Fire bufferMausar is fucking FEASTING
>>2158393Yeah she had almost no details about her past. She was from Toto and was upset about Luca burning down her village.That was it.I guess it kinda makes sense that she would have some connection with the Liberation Army, since she's just kinda... there in Suikoden II, and one can assume she has some history with Viktor/Flik because of it.
Interesting that the S1 event has no VAs, I guess they're reserving them for the main story only to cut costs
>skipped SSR Luc, Shirin, Marie gacha >tried rolling for Jowy>got SSR Luc instead with 30 rollsFeels weird desu. I guess he is useful for this event dungeon at least since the enemies are weak to wind.>>2158424Her buff should have been for a row instead of single target >>2158658It was mentioned Leona met Victor before Suikoden II story happened but there wasn't any detail about it.
How long do buffs last in battle again? I notice the ones from passives last a really long time, while the ones you get from active skills only last three turns or so
>>2158760https://www.kaiden.gg/suikoden-star-leap/guides/buffs-debuffs-and-positioning/Percentage buffs last the whole battle unless negated by a percentage debuff. Stage/stacking buffs last around 2-3 turns of the affected character.
>Neaje is the best character in the gamehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV6U-szE1ucYour cute sister Yua is also super fucking cracked. I wonder if there's anyone else who has the +50% ult gauge passive?
>>2159327Pretty sure both versions of Mariye can charge ult gauges
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>>2159549Tfw a free character is better than gacha one. She can unbalance enemies really fast if you get lucky with the extra normal attacks. I wonder if they will do actual powercreep for gacha characters in the future.
>>2159796Also apparently we can max dupe Leona for free once the other parts of her event unlock later. Max dupe Leona with my 1 dupe Fu Su Lu is going to make for a really nasty Fire team, I feel.
>>2160354you get two from the new thing that unlock today
The events are actually so much fun, I can grind all day if not for the timegate desu
>>2160847Tfw the boss stage is easier than the mobs
>>2161275this bnuuy is absurd
>>2161024soon https://x.com/GensoSuikodenSP/status/2093340324106244360
tokyo game show stream next month https://x.com/GensoSuikodenSP/status/2093194361978728592
They really need to streamline the cooking menu for my sanity. Make it so that required ingredients aren't shown as zero when you only have higher-tier items. Also when you enter the trading post from the cooking menu and press back, make it so you return to either the cooking or trading post menu instead of getting booted back to the overworld.
the more I play the more I think Tir is mediocre and I got baited by the retarded japs putting him in S tiercharacters who can burst on turn 1 are way better, and his ally kill passive keeps ruining my score in the event mode
>>2161920>event modeusing Wind + magic team on the left route and Wind + sword team on the right route is better desuThe S tier is supposedly after at least 2 limit break.
>>2161920The jp tier list is kinda iffy in general, there should've been more tanks at the top of the list imo simply because of how crucial they're for your survival.
>>2161920he’s good in mirage tower try borrowing one of the whale ones to test him out.
https://x.com/i/status/2093624711066341775Suikoden STAR LEAP — Upcoming QoL Updates Summary[Early September]- Trading Post: more sale slots, adjusted material drop rates, new materials at Kaku's post- Exchange: added quality 1/2 gems to the Orhan coin exchange- Gathering: easier to target specific materials via fishing/hunting/harvesting- Shops: food items added to tool shops outside the home village- Bounty Office: new quests added- Battle: weakened guard-type enemies; reduced frequency of enemy "unbalance attacks" and "call reinforcements"- Chinchirorin (dice minigame): rebalanced its three modesLate September and beyond- Cooking: auto-selects special meals per character; UI instantly shows missing ingredients and eligible characters- Trading Post: bulk buy/sell, merged buyback/sell screens, sort by item type, instant sellability check- Tool Shop: bulk buy, expanded home-shop stock (mostly randomized)- Blacksmith: added a "character" filter- Character screens: craft armor directly if unequipped, working back button, bookmark/pin favorites, shows limit-break count, added "role" filter- Party/Formation: 8 savable party slots, quick-rearrange button- Battle AI (AUTO): smarter vs. guard enemies, avoids ultimates on low-HP targets, sustains chain-attack readiness; tweaked chain-attack and knockdown mechanics; easier enemy tap targeting- Battle Content: removed a forced fight in one mode, added quest-list/repeat buttons on clear screens, shows ability info during difficulty select, faster pacing in one dungeon- Other: training EXP button refreshes every 24h (or at level cap) instead of hourly; new story content, persistent sort/filter settings, and low-RAM device supportI hope this stuff will already be in the global build by the time we get it.
>>2162763>Cooking>Trading PostTHANK FUCKING GOD>8 savable party slotsNice we have the slots for all the elements + weapon types now
>280 rolls total wasted so far but I haven't get Apple even once while I have 5 SR characters at 5 limit breaksPain
i am not spending a SINGLE roll until the SSR version of my wife is added to the game
>>2163708Who are your wife? Valeria or Kasumi?
>>2162763btw, in the Battle Content section it's not "forced fight" it's "forced fights" because they're getting rid of the "forced Duel matches while exploring" thing in Chapter 2
>>2163728
tfw you finally have enough hearts to get truffle in the trading post, but you run out of the stock refresh and so you have to wait for next week to finally get that damn thing, fuck the trading post
>only 2 free Earth characters so farsad>>2165026truffle is also expensive as hell and currently there are 8 characters which need them if you want to increase their bond rank to S
>>21652223 if you count the pvp one
>>2165222>>2165237>both the SR Earth tanks are Sword, meaning Combat (the most common physical element) topples them instantly when they try to guardEarth is suffering. If you don't have Georg to cheese content with you might as well fuck off and not even bother with Earth content.
>>2165276I'm getting by with Tir, Morgan,and Tsuranami. I'm definitely getting Humphrey next banner tho since SR tank is suffering
list of updates https://x.com/GensoSuikodenSP/status/2095091771021906286
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>>2168570of fucking course the joke character is broken
>100 rolls for Jowy since I need a better Water unit>2 Odessa (+another 1 from the ticket) and 2 SaphiaPic related is me right now>>2168570Waiting to see if it will change again
>>2168612You should have rolled for Milich
I wonder what do the mean by pic related >>2168570>somehow got Mare after I did 5 single rollsI guess I could use her as physical damage tank on magic team assuming the enemies aren't lightning/slash
>>2168566>can buy truffle with Potch at Sauronix item shop nowToo bad it will never restock.
I'm out of stamina pots and ofc there's a grinding event going on
>>2168971i had to refresh stamina 3 times to level milich/mare and do the event...kill me
>>2168971You still have 3 weeks though and the remaining 2 parts presumably don't need stamina. I wish the mats drops aren't random.
>>2168971your 3 daily stamina pots from shop? your post maintenance shop update stamina pots?
>>2169124Got 5 SSR from pulling this banner and used them up to raise them
>>2079330I like this game, desu. But getting a specific character you want is pure cancer.I want Jowy, I'm using the fucking banner, but I keep getting either Odessa or Kika (which is good, I like them) or some random dudes from Suikoden 1 (Gen, Eileen, Gaspar, Mace, Morgan) that I don't care about. 200 Pulls to get to choose your character is bullshit. I don't care if the SSR rate is high, it's not the SSR's I want. They will sit there in my roster, level 1, unloved.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JvVkVMl16o>mukumuku is ba-*ACK*
Surely the inflow of new fans means they'll do a console title next...
>>2170135They need to remaster III, IV and V first.Would be cool to get Chris as a cross-promotion with Suikoden III Remaster with her True Water Rune.
event boss is out. 160 tickets per attempt and you can now get the last two remaining dupes for Leona
>>2170491Looks like the Normal mode doesn't give much points. I ended the battle quite fast with a level 30 Georg and I only got, what, 730 points?I wonder how Hard is the hard mode of said boss.
>>2170517Very Hard is 3600 points max. I only got 2700 since my characters like whales or players which wasted gems for stamina refill to raise their characters more.
>>2171053why is tsuranami on the corner
>>2171076I was swapping out characters without thinking of their position until 100% auto but 100% auto is not guaranteed win
>>2170855Got 34800 by 1 hit-killing it with 5* Georg ougi+Atk buffs despite it resists slash and my Georg isn't maxed yet. Presumably a maxed 5* Georg with 1 limit break could get 36000. I guess the event is on the easier side so far since it's the 1st event.
We're getting character buffs on the 9th according to the dev blog. Who do you want buffed?
>>2171566The Odessa banner trio seem kind of underpowered so I say them
>>2171566the joke character that starts the battle unbalanced. is there a proper tier list yet? also any character that has D or E on their stats meanwhile this R rarity character has god tier letters compared to ssr characters
>>2171589>the joke character that starts the battle unbalancedYou can buy the balance rune from the 4th event shop in a couple of weeks so at least there's that
>>2171589Chiepoo's problem is that it's kinda limited in what he does. He has the best Evasion in the game, but everything else? Not as good.
Is there any way to get the 1st coin anymore?I still got 10 of it and thinking that they purposefully leave it at such half-ass amount. I haven't count it, but most likely 2nd coin and the rest will have the same issue.
>>2171645might need to wait for second event to get more
>>2171566Already?! That's the earliest I've ever heard of character buffs happening in a brand new gacha.I'm glad the nips are beta testing it for us
>>2079330Why wouldn't an Android 16 be compatible with this game?
>>2172145The minimum requirement is Android 10 according to Play Store (despite the official site says Android 11). Not compatible message could also be caused by phone model like the RAM is too low or incompatible chipsets.
>>2172407The RAM can go up to 16...I just want to play the game. My device is a pretty good one.
>>2172438If is Google Play not allowing you to download:You could download the APK, change the location through the VPN, install the APK, and on the first launch it will connect with Google Play and you can play normally.
>>2172510Thanks.
What accessory should I give the bunny? Speed feather so he's even faster? Fire bangle or ring to powert up his skill/ult?
>>2172764the phys atk/sword atk one. he already overcaps speed, the feather does nothing for him
Kinda weird there is gems amount cap
It's been quite fun reading jp tweets about their first time playing S1/2 after trying out Star Leap
I've only played Suikoden 2, Star Leap, and half of 5what am I missing?
>>21740331,3, and 5 are all great. Did you not like 5 that much? 4 is...not the worst ps2 jrpg but I'd only recommend it to a completionist. Suikoden Tactics is kinda underrated. Suikogaidens for more post-S2 lores.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_MByRrZ1dA>>2174038Tactics is technically a sequel of 4 though
>>2174070I finally beat it. What a hard fight. Diana was MVP, I had no idea she was so good.
>>2174917Is Diana high tier?
can't check the game rn which characters got buffed?
Passive: SSR OrhanSpecial Arts: Eileen, LuserinaTraits: SSR ShapurMechanics: All Recovery-Type Characters (+1 heal charge every 5 actions taken) Skill Charges: SSR + 108 Stars Shapur, Lun, Nick, Sydonia, RanRinTenSynergistic Item: All Combat Attribute Characters (New rune orb at Gregminster Rune Shop Friendship Lvl. 3+, activates Cover for allies + 35% PDEF, max 3 times)
>>2175793Nice buffs for the healers and Shapur. Extra skill charges are neat too. I don't have Orhan so I'm not sure how useful his buff is
>didn't get any SSR from 50 rolls I guess I can use the points once it reaches 200 to get an old SSR at least.>>2175692Current rating is S,S,A>>2175700>Good: Free Earth character >Bad: Need at least 90% HP and a team of Scarlet Moon Empire for max damage
>>2175938Saw gamewith putting Kimberly in SS before dropping her down to A kek
>>2175999gamewith sucks only two tiers and everything they haven’t bothered checking is stuck in A
>>2175651She has the highest ATK in the game, so she's a good vehicle for ATK buffs. Great for a free Lightning unit, but not the best unit or anything like that.
Romould is probably the worst SSR in the game>absolute putrid dogshit stats>tiny ATK buffs that only activate when he's full HP or in a Scarlet Moon team (like that will ever happen, lmao)>god awful single target moveset with a shitty 140 power ultimate>no team utility whatsoeverIf you need a free Earth character, the SR version of Georg will outdamage him in every single scenario.
>>2176058They should've separated the characters by their elements or weapon types imo. I would've put characters like Lotte and Flanagan in SS for a fire team for example
https://x.com/hamafamcollabo/status/2097641172651139411
>>2176143idk, Kraze and Grady are already in the game, data for Barbarossa and Windy (and I think Teo McDohl in some capacity) are in the game files, and it's also possible that they'll implement Kanaan as a low-rarity character in the future, so he could become viable then
>>2175938>a team of Scarlet Moon Empire for max damageWhich so far is just Grady, Kraze, Milich and Romold....
So part 4 is Victor, Ronnie Bell and an unknown Suikoden 1 character >>2176604Being in the game files doesn't mean anytime soon like pic related
>>2177103>an unknown Suikoden 1 characterIf is Gremio or Teo, it's goodbye to my Fantasy Stones...
>>2176995>MilichI forgot that this motherfucker is part of 3 different teams(Narcissists, Liberation Army and Scarlet Moon Empire).
>>2177118I think it has to be Kage right? Since he's part of the secret factory trio and we've already got Mose and Ronnie
>>2176183
>>2175938>did some more rolls>got one 5*>it's Mace instead of any of the three rate-up charactersAt least he is new and I can use him for Earth team
https://x.com/GensoSuikodenSP/status/2098392363031003431 two hour maintenance to fix low score
>>2178265I heard Mace is actually one of the best Earth buffers in the game, alongside Retso.
Just beat the 50th floor of the tower five minutes before maintenance. It felt like a freebie with how easily Tir destroyed the dark furballs. Floors 47–49 were really hellish tho
>>2177103My girl Ronnie Bell!please, PLEASE be good!
>>2179690You can sneak peak how she plays in the Liberation Army extra mode.She seems a really good combat/fire character who can buff herself.
