Road to GDC
eza soon
Daima being 3 weeks of filler feels insane.Guess it's "better" than the 1 week we had before.
CELL SAGA GDC
>>2127203It's been 7 years since the last perfect cell but we don't need another gohan.
>>2127211Yeah we do, the last one was the equivalent of str ssbe and they redeemed him a year later.
>>2127214We didn't need another SSBE either. It's a dogshit transformation that shouldn't get a card more than once in 5 years.
>>2127203>eza goku & gohan>eza virus goku>eza ssj1 gohan>eza super trunks>seza friend point 17 & 18HAHAHA YESSS... YEEEESSSS!!!!but also who invited that retarded sword of hope nigger
>>2127217We need all the 10th anni carnivals as real cards. Even GT goku got jewed on his animations.
just give me a carnival ssj4 vegito with the ssj4 gogeta animation quality thats on GT heroesoh and a ssj pan on GT heroes
>>2127231except the supershit, especially the Gokuza that got crickets on reveal. Goku and Gohan can wait until the 10th anni ones are ready to EZA.If anything, the fusions are what need new cards with how little they got.
>>2127235They're not mutually exclusive. But enjoy malding at the dbs fusions on 12th anni because all 9th anni ezas are dbs.
>>2127249I wasn't implying they are. There's just been too much SS4 spam lately and we have 3 different versions of the Father-Son Kamehameha with top notch animations now. We need more variety.
>powered up version 6 LRs?
>>2127252who's the third namek lr
I don't get why people are glazing this guy in MC teams>MC and co requires stacks to function>does decent damage and can tank reasonably well for 4 turns but becomes a huge liability after that
>>2127269He gets 7 turns and you can go giant with him immediately if need be.
>>2127269As the other anon said, you get 4 turns of real stats, giant on 7 so you have no supers, then he comes back on 10.No current content is going 10 turns, and that's the worst case scenario assuming he's on turn 1.
>>2127098God I hope she gets god tier treatment.
>>2127098We're getting bulma eza, daipa ss3 leads dragon ball seekers.
>>2127231what we NEED is an LR kid goku that's as busted as str beast was to make up for getting jewed out of the 10th anniversary by TWO topslop units
>>2127411He gets the guard and def plus extra after turn 5. Luud could survive turn 10 in a best case scenario.
How the helly do you no item gamma 2
>>2127896look at any of the guest clears except the obvious cheaters using version z goku
>>2127909>beast>beast>50 mc teams>cell max movie bosses>cheaters
>>2127925I just used friend beast
ez mission, suck my dick Gomah
geppy gals soon
>>2127909I used this
>>2128384>puddlehanAiiiieeeeeee I want him so bad
>>2128298geppy is a homo and it's going to be men this year
>>2128760We all summon for muscular men here. And some of us pay for it.
can someone fucking explain why to me that Gohma becomes a wet paper towel in regards to defense after like turn 5? am i using him wrong? Motherfucker just lost me a fight when i had it right down to the wire and he ate a super for over 10 mil in slot one
>>2129128like i get he loses 66% dr after getting hit like 3 times but he's supposed to get atk and deef every single turn he shows up so what the fuck
>>2129128He's invincible early when he has full DR and late when he's stacked. There's a window between those where he's vulnerable and you rely on rng, dodge or giant form.
>>2129132and what about ssj4 daimaku? he seems to be able to tank almost anything as a slot 1 but its the same deal with him, after like 5 turns he just melts even if he's slotted first
>>2129137That's just bosses mogging him in the late phase. His def is completely static the whole fight.
>>2129128Gomah is dodge or die except he has 4 lives and a giant form.
>>2129148(giant form that sucks ass)
>>2129151At least the active does good damage.
Having so many stones has made me complacent.I know it's less than the giga hoarders, but I look at my 800 stones and go>you know, maybe I don't need to do that 6 losing type mission for 2 hours for one stone.
>click Super 3>change friend>click top ssj4 daimaku>start>check starting rotation>it's a dud>menu>abandon quest>yes>click super 3>...What a fun mission, I love turn 4 Gomah kill.
>>2129268Okay so...
>>2129314... maybe this...
>>2129315... was overkill.
>>2129318Geppy's content is so balanced and forgiving...
>>2129242It has been insanely easy to build up to 1k stones since they made regular Dokkan Fests shit with 10 features.
>>2129323Yeah I'd be at 1150 right now but I did 300 on Beast and Cell Max. Former kind of fucked me but latter was great value.
>>2129131stacking def means nothing without DR.
>>2129498or guard
>>2128298guppy loves androids so i have complete faith in cowgirl 18's eza
Remember when they teased the idea of guard or damage reduction skill orbs in a survey?
>>2129867I don't know how they would do Guard orbs unless it's just a chance to guard, which seems almost worthless
>>2129867They should copy OPTC more and have Super Orbs that boost super effective damage by X amount
>>2129954I mean technically you can just give your characters more Type ATK Boost orbs, but that stat barely makes a difference and only applies to one type.
>>2129964They could have >Super [Type] Orb where if you collect it with the same type character it gives +10 type effect damage per OrbOr something, or maybe it buffs Super Effective damage by +0.1x per Orb
>>2129954That's useless, super-effective will always be an inferior crit.If they're going to evolve skill orbs, it would have to be with the entire list of mechanics you see when you try to filter your units by "skill effect".
>>2127259blooma
>>2129867i bet they scrapped it and are now letting new units do that for the team insteadlike the new ssj3 mini can give the rotation guaranteed crit if it ex supers or the ssj3 adult daima vegeta can give all daima units guard after turn 4i bet if they added those kind of skill orbs they'd add a 4th slot which can only be used if you rainbow the unit
>back to baby mode battlefieldSo lame
they couldve at least given angelku a super eza before all the hype deflated
>>2130168I'm still holding out hope. He was so fun back in the 120% meta and he'll slot in perfectly if GDC is Boo arc.
>>2130051people here were complaining that Luud wasted their entire run tho
New guradiemere stage is just find a way to run LR Daimaku
MOMMY
UOH
>peppy gals with real leader skillsgeppy was a gooner all along...
>daiper>daiper galslmaooo
>>2130416>Realm of Godshuh?
>>2130420I'm guessing its purely so they supreme kai can be on the full leader skill
>>2130414So 90% chance of dodging and 60% dmg reduction and guard before attacking but only guard, 50% dmg reduction and maybe 30% dodge after attacking? Her passive numbers don’t seem too crazy so is it another TEQ pan situation?
>>2130434It's 70% DR before attacking and no guard, after attacking 60% DR and guard. Looks like the supers are random and she gets 30% dodge per Kuu super, up to 4 times.
>>2130440No wait 60% DR before and after, or 50% after with 11 ki, but then she gets her 2 additional supers (normals)
>>2130416>one time 80% dodge then no other dodge>only 20% damage reduction So either she has good numbers and that’s an AoE defence or what’s the point of her if she’s just going to explode if two normals are aimed at her. I get that she makes the new goku and teq ss4 one pretty untouchable so I dunno how good she is>>2130440Oh I missed that line. So you wanna hit 11 ki of there is a bunch of attacks slot zero and one and 12ki if there’s only like one attack in slot one. Pretty good, will make the not being able to select orb path problem annoying again though
>>2130446Aoe protection with mediocre stats. She'll survive normals in the current meta that's about to get btfo in a month.
>>2130416>dodge or die daipa editionat least she makes for an interesting 220 leader I guess
>dodge or daipa
>>2130456kek shit I should have thought of that first.
>>2130446I guess the one time dodge and interruption means should could have some niche use. Still gonna predict she’ll have like 20-40m attack, hope I’m wrong
>>2130414>>2130416>neither is actually on Peppy Gals
mamba is fucking cracked wtf
>>2130414>>2130416>>2130485>not on peppy gals >the units are actually goodthere is literally no explanation for this other than sexism
>EZAs a peppy gals support>the 2 new girls doesn't have peppy gals in their category>but Panzy somehow has "Youth" as part of her category despite being canonically an 80 years old>yet giving her peppy gals is too muchthis fucking game man
>>2130534Whose leaderskill is she even on? Still mad they do that secondary villians aren’t GT/movie bosses
>>2130416We got characters leading categories they're not on now (with no gimmicks like Roshi and BoGku)? I guess that means we can get DFEs with only like 3 categories now.
>>2130592The gimmick is that it hits the characters they specifically support
>>2130414>Arinsu on Demonic Power>Mini Supreme Kai on Demonic PowerWhen are they putting the other Glinds on Demonic Power?
>>213055280 is a child in demon years
ok i guess i'll do it then
>>2130414This is the first time we've gotten a pseudo DFE since what, str 21? Her banner will probably be shit but I might just summon if not.>>2130416If she can break 2 actions with her procs, that's insane. Otherwise, whatever.
>>2130732>>2130733These seem kind of bare. 18 is a dodge or die beat stick and Mamba has no additionals.Also the new animations are really bad now that I look at them, ez skip.
>>2130608Probably never. It’s like vegeta not being on siblings bond until what’s his name is introduced
>>2130732not as bad as i thought, you can still run her on androids team
>>2130771I think that's less about Tarble existing and more that he only get his bond with him after the events of Goku and Friends Are Back.Buu Saga Dabura has Sibling's Bond despite Towa being a game-only character.
They HAVE to do something about the size. How is an entire 3D Monster Hunter game somehow smaller than Dokkan?
>>2130795Yeah, they need to make it bigger by adding HD card arts.
>>2130795I'm gonna be completely honest, when people complain about storage space that's only 20gb, it feels like a 3rd world issue.Modern phones have hundreds of gigs of space, mine is currently 512gb and dokkan barely makes a dent.
>>2130816It's not just a "third world issue". I'm just not paying 500 dollars extra for more storage. Also, there are more games than just Dokkan, so the space adds up. There really isn't a good reason for Dokkan to be as big as it is.
>>2130819You can buy refurbished new gen iPhones for less than £300. You can buy brand new chinkphones for £200. Where are you getting $500 from?
>>2130744Arinsu's animations are good thoughbeit
>>2130416>>2130414>diamond background slopSkip
>>2130414>duu and kuu supportit's coming
>>2130414>>2130416Something interesting to note is Anrisu and Pansy's team cost.If they were a DFE, their cost would be 58. If they were a Peppy Gals unit, it'd be 18. Instead, they're both at 40, which lines up with most banner units despite having a 220% Leader Skill.That's a pretty unusual combination, and I'm curious what the reasoning is behind this sudden change.
>>2130821I'm not buying an entirely new phone just to play Dokkan lol
>>2130795There is something to say about how Dokkan is like twice as big as Legends, though. Why is that the case, and why haven't they done anything to fix it?
>>2130870what phone are you using now that you have to worry about storage space?? phones have had hundreds of gigs for over a decade lmao
>>2130873Samsung Galaxy S24 FE. I have the 128gb model. Also, you do know there are other games and apps besides Dokkan, right?
>>2130854Super is coming out probably October isn’t it? We might actually get a tag unit of them for October dfe then super remake stuff for November
>>2130875You can fit ~4 Dokkan size games easy in that then. I personally don’t know how anyone can stand keeping up to date on more than one gacha though
remember when phones comes with SD card slots and you can just shove a 2tb card into it and don't have to worry about file size?
>>2130880I only "play" Dokkan to collect. My main gacha is actually Fire Emblem Heroes. I've just been collecting on Dokkan since STR Super Gogeta so it's hard to let go of my account.
>>2130881The phone companies specifically removed the SD card slot so you'd HAVE to buy the larger storage size model. It's one of the scummiest things they've done.
>>2130826They are not besides I guess the intro. The 11 ki has bad source material despite being adapted well and the 12 ki is mostly still frames.
>>2130871Dokkan as a game comprised entirely of flash assets and video files with 9 years of buildup will obviously take up more space than rigged model swap Legends.
>>2130898lol
they just need to eza android 21 soon
>>2130943What's Gomah doing here?
>>2130877They basically dumped all of kuu's source material on arinsu so I doubt it.
>>2130976It’s weird they cut kuus SA before the mouth beam and arinsu smiling
>>2130854>>2130877yeah, they feel like a tag releasing october or november
>>2130946hehe don't worry about it bro...
>>2130774>top 17 has battle of wits>top 18 has battle of wits>so of course top 17 and 18 don't have battle of wits bravo akatsuki
>>2131176Goku being in their Unit Super Attack evened their IQ
oh boy>15% dodge (>50%)>buffs both of them>slot 0 stunat least it's a 6 teq mission for mc and dabura to rape.
>7beastbros...
>additionals trigger her 11ki and its passive effectsOh right. Shit.
>>2131707>EX Daimaku damage with guaranteed crits>70% chance to dodge AoEs>additionals trigger 30% dodge chance>basically invincible defence wise anyway I know she has team restrictions and no categories and stuff but in a vacuum is she the best unit in the game?
Just remembered that glinds technically don't have genders, they just look male or female, so that's why she's not on peppy gals.
>>2131714Is peppy gals not just things roshi wants to fuck
>>2131715Did he want to fuck Ribrianne
>filler dfe mogs the upcoming LR again
>>2131723>dfe*banner unit
>>2131733Only if she's added to the general pool and there's no way. Unit cost is a meme.
Arinsu is like a eza LR SS4 Daima Goku lmao. The GDC LRs all better be throwing out multiple 100m SAs at 55%, if we get another water pistol like the tag SS4s after this I’ll be mad
>>2131763>if we get another water pistol like the tag SS4s after this I’ll be madfunny you should mention this because both cards from that banner does the same shit>do water pistol damage until you switch in/and use their activeIMO ui was actually the worse card because it's only good for 2 turns of invincibility and easy 220 leader for realm of gods, SSJ4 duo at least becomes a consistent tank if you slot in a rainbow orb enabler like TEQ panat any rate both of those units are hugely overrated and unironically the two daipa card released before them that everyone loves to shit on are actually the better cards
if this isn't proof that the rates are rigged...
>>2131873Yeah Daima Goku was by and far the most useful character from the anni. I personally don’t like the ToP tags either but if I don’t have to run the SS4s, I don’t. Such a dogshit unit, I’m not bringing a rainbow orb changer so vegeta can throw 14m attacks about for 50 turns then goku can do good damage for one.
>>2131995retard
>>2132002SS4s were worse than tag Goku/Frieza
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hbQ7ArG_HS4Can attack break twice. Looks good, was worried she would be doing awful damage and the SA skip flows well.
>>2131749Unit cost is a universal marker. >>2132012not him but retard
>We heard you weren't rolling for Daima DFEs and wanted you to beat the missions
Big 4kuMini 4kuMini 3kuSTR PanzyArinsuGomahThis is the team.
>>2132026dodge or daipa thoI already have had enough of this shit in realm of gods team
>>2132104Not really, she has can tank 15m and only has one dodge. It’s more pray there isn’t 3 attacks in slots two/three and hope she attack breaks the super.>>2132101You need 3 extreme for arinsu and 2 mission execution/siblings bond. Probably better running cowgirl 18 instead of one of the minis.
>>2131873You act like UI is guaranteed to die outside his invul turns. Teq pan is likelier to get you killed. He's the only anni that doesn't struggle with literally any boss on any team comp, and he's the hardest to run as a friend compared to having your own so he's the most valuable to have.
>>2132101>don't have>don't have>don't have>shitty bait banner>shitty bait bannerGame really doesn't want me to run Daima.
this entire month is lost
Unless there's a summer bait banner with Teq Metal Cooler, don't summon until GDC
>>2132051Banner exclusivity is a universal marker.
>>2132131>You act like UI is guaranteed to die outside his invul turns*dodged a normal**dodged a normal**facetanked a super - 1hp**dodged everything after that or he takes 1 normal/the guy after him takes 1 normal and dies*many such casesI usually just switch into vegeta after ui's guaranteed dodge turn because at least vegeta has decent def/DR and actually does damage.
>>2132139brother we're skipping gsc and summoning NOWthese bitches wont be featured on a banner until next YEAR
>>2132146Vegeta does less damage outside his active turn especially without goku's stack, and doesn't support.
I dunno why they bothered giving UI that stupid KO mechanic. I don’t think I’ve ever benefited from it
Have they abandoned SEZA's yet like with every other gimmick cause I cant remember the last time a unit got one
>>2132162Phy cooler
>>2132140Yeah, we call them Dokkan Fests (58/77 cost) and Carnivals (77 cost).
>>2132169We call them banner units when they're pullable on every banner.
>>2132170And 99% of them share 40 cost.
>>2132171>99%So it's even less relevant than I thought.
>>2132172The only exceptions are from the first 2-3 years of the game, and every 40 cost unit is in the general pool or outright free except Heroes for obvious reasons. Will you try to compare girly banner units to Heroes next?
>>2132175No because cost is irrelevant. Banner exclusivity matters.
>>2132176Again, cost is directly connected to banner exclusivity. We have a decade of evidence to that end.
>>2132177You literally just proved my point with heroes, they're 40 cost but clearly not banner units.
>>2132179>No I won't falsely equate this to Heroes.>Wait nvm I will after all.
>>2132180You're the one who made the comparison which contradicted your own point. I only go by exclusivity. Then you said cost = exclusivity which is patently wrong.
>>2132184>doubling down on all frontsJust admit when you've played yourself.
>>2132189>doubling down on being correctYes, I am. You can't even explain how I'm wrong.
It would be unprecedented if these two didn't go in the general pool when every single other duo has since these banners existed.
>>2132190I would but if you can't even admit you contradicted yourself within 3 minutes, there's no point. You're just going to keep bullshitting to save face no matter how wrong you are.
>>2132180It makes me happy that my meme is still alive to this day.
>>2132194I wasn't gonna compare them because, for the 10th time, I go by exclusivity. Heroes are exclusive to heroes, they didn't even rerun on crossover. We don't know where these will rerun, but if they're not in the general pool they're not banner units. Then you made it strictly about points so of course I'll point out your contradiction.
>>2132197It has been strictly about cost since you or whoever called it a meme. You wanted to pretend it's irrelevant with no rationale whatsoever and now that it hasn't worked out, you're reaching for a retarded gotcha comparing a video game crossover to characters straight out of the anime. Give it a rest.
>>2132202"It" being their exclusivity, which it has no bearing on.>comparing a video game crossover to characters straight out of the animeWhich also has zero bearing on whether they're banner units.
>>2132203>nope doesn't matter and I will not attempt to justify this claim
>>2132162they'll drop 5+ next month
>>2132206>I will ignore the justification and claim it's not there>who cares about unit availability, cost is everything
>>2132210You literally have not given one. Screeching "unit availability" as if the phrase in itself means anything is not a justification.
I’m 70/30 on they’ll make them returning featured vs them going into general pool. Only thing I 100% know is they won’t tell us
>>2132213>the ability to obtain the unit doesn't mean anything in a gachaOkay retard
>>2132216That's the issue in contention, not an argument retardbro.
>>2132217Yes the issue is whether she'll be in the general pool. What the fuck does cost have to do with anything
>>2132219>Yes the issue is whether she'll be in the general pool.Good we've established that. Next is for you to justify your claim that cost is irrelevant.
>>2132221You haven't explained how it's relevant. You contradicted your own point with heroes. But apparently you did that to attempt an even more retarded gotcha about canon vs noncanon, which is even more irrelevant to banner unit status.
>>2132225I have explained and I have explained why Heroes doesn't matter, which you also denied without justification.>about canon vs noncanonNo retardbro, it's about how Dokkan has handled collaboration campaigns. They are exclusive only in the rare case it's explicitly stated, like Heroes. The girly banner has nothing in common with it.
>>2132231>blah blah blah collaborationAgain, not relevant to whether they're banner units. Neither is cost. Saying>they're 40 cost so they'll be in the general poolis a reasonable prediction, but saying>even if they're not in general pool they're banner units because they're 40 costis pure retardation with zero relevance to their gacha classification.
>>2132236>>even if they're not in general pool they're banner units because they're 40 costNo one was saying that. Have you been just been fixated on the label this whole time?
>>2132237I'm fixated on their availability, and cost alone doesn't determine that.
>>2132238It's a perfect indicator. We don't even get 40 cost units that aren't in the general pool anymore.
>>2132239We also don't get 40 cost units with dfe leader skills.
>>2132241We have gotten 3 42 cost units with DFE leader skills back when all banner units were given that much. Then you have to add in that all releases in this slot go in the general pool.
>>2132243I said 40 cost but I meant general pool units. Dfes being 42 before is even more proof that cost is meaningless.
>>2132246No, 3 banner units with DFE leader skills from the era of 58 cost DFEs and 42 cost banner units.
These will be in the general pool.Why are we schizoing out?
c-content...?
>>2132280I still need to do super and extreme clears of gomah. Got the hard part out of the way with the 4 turn, now I can run meta teams and use whis to survive two reps of his giga phases
>>2132280TONIGHT
>>2132305ON UNSOLVED MYSTERIES
>he thinks units with page long passives are going in the general pool
>>2132370
>>2132370all the new recent ones have long passives like piccolo and king cold
If we're still on this subject, they awaken with the Peppy Gals medals, they're obviously just the annual Peppy Gals banner units and their cost is because of their pseudo-DFE Leader Skills.
>>2132392this is literally comfirmation
it's confirmation that they're not dfes (obvious) but not that they're in the general pool
>>2132392>Peppy Gal medals to awaken>released with Peppy Gals EZAs during a Peppy Gals bit of a celebration>neither her or Arinsu are on Peppy Gals
>>2132398its consistent with the f2p Panzy and the other Kais/Glinds
>>2132380okay but he's mid
the only way guppy will change it is if jp cunny and hag enjoyers join forces and uoh hard enough
>>2132405Saibaimen can clear RE stages.
>>2132405Goalposts? Moved.>>2132427Anon? Based and Saibapilled.
my 90 stones are ready!
popo my beloved...
>be the lucklet who hasn't pulled anything this year in 4000 stones>tfwThe curse is finally lifted...
where is android 13 lr
Two SSJ3 Minis or Two SSJ4 Daipas for Daipa leader?
>>2132484two arinsu
400 wasted. Also a fail of a carnival summon ticket. Got evil android 21 two times, android 18 3 times, carnival tick was gomah. I don't have any of the LRs on the Pic so was hoping for one of those at least. Did 3 on the other banner and got more dupes but did get the new ss3 mini Goku. Only have 350 stones leftward and was really wanting the new girls.
I guess I have to coin str daipa now since I pulled her...
>>2132495>400bro
I actually kinda want to pull now that I've seen the showcases. Are the 90 stones really worth it?
>>2132502It's blue coins so you'll never use them. She seems a lot less impressive at 55%.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Kh3mbrUVJI
>>2132501I still have like 350. That's plenty till I pull again for heores next year
>heroes
>>2132502She really needs dupesYou get 21 tickets from doing popo event so spend those and wait for the Android 21 and Evil 21EZAs before going all in on her team
>>2132503>casual 35-40 million atk stats>Arinsu still close to 100 million atk statThat still looks really good.>>2132506Cool, I thought it was just 7 like usual. >Android 21 and Evil 21EZAsThat's confirmed?
Teq mission>>2132474Nice, I rainbowed cowgirl 18 off the tickets
>>2132508Compared to 100mil x 5 and getting both 12 and 11 ki passives, she's a lot worse. She even sells in the end.
>>2132508The main reason Arinsu needs dupes is she needs her add hipo and equips maxed out. She’s pretty meh if you aren’t rolling the nuke dice
>>2132511>>2132513The crazy thing is that her "meh" honestly isn't that far from Gomah himself. Who would expect a banner unit to approach 100 million attack with a crit?But I got them both and I didn't have Videl so I guess it's moot. I guess the question now is do I pull for a dupe to get the nuke turn?
Seeing people summon on a banner unit banner before gdc is crazy
>>2132474>really don't wanna buy daimaku>was saving my scouter points but fuck it>do 1 multi for a third ticket, panzy dupe>3 bejitas>now if I buy daima I can skip the november scam bannerToday has been something
>>2132534and btw you only have an hour to buy the annis before they leave the shop
>>2132537Why the fuck are they still available on Global and not JP?
>>2132529With discounts? Absolutely.I did my 90 stones and got 90 summon points.Turles spooked me in there.Tickets gave me 2 pansies and the worst banner unit ever released is now at 90% too.
>>2132541>TurlesI summon.
>>2132540truth... don't look...
>>2132529I did the discount pulls and got Pansy so I am happy.
>>2132541>>21325432 ARINSU DUPES THANK YOU ANON
>>2132547No prob glad to help your gambling addiction.
Do I give him the kino equip?
>>2132550yea. he wants that extra def
I have yet to get the AGL duo to turn 5/morale boosted.Does the unit actually do numbers then or what? Have no new leader for them so I just haven't used them or birdku.
>>2132573about double the base form so no. don't use the turn 7 boost on their active either for some reason the damage is ass
>>2132573They can do like 70-80m then a couple of 40-50m additionals on their active turn. Their damage is still dogshit outside when morale boosted
>>2132582>>2132579So we just made a worse STR Cooler that takes way more time to get strong while being slightly more stable defensively? Bleh.
>no we cannot put anything in the blue coin section of the shop :^)
>>2132586>will never get the 3 type leads I'm missing
>5 incredible gems from conversion... what didn't I spend? Fuck.
>>2132583They’re not really similar to cooler at all. They’re a unit that lives or dies by their conditional damage reductions and typically die outside that, I guess you could say it’s a Teq pan like but they don’t have any utility so they’re just a dogshit eza
>>2132607There's nothing really conditional, but they do just seem to be a really dull slot 2/3. I guess I just expected more with Birdku and the two coolers seeming like insane glowups, while these guys were the worst of the original releases.
>>2132611Eh, Birdku is overrated too at least without dupes.
>>2132615I'm working with 3 dupe birdku and everyone else rainbow, hence my surprise when turn 1 birdku is doing like double the attack of the duo.
of course the fucking nonbinary gals pulls didn't give me SHIT
>mommy first discount multiShame none of my characters will ever be allowed to touch her since they got lazy with the sprites and you just fight kuu and duu
>pulled Panzy 6 fucking timesJUST GIVE ME ARINSU
>>2132611I guess conditional is the wrong way to put it but the only good thing I feel they have is they can survive a surprising amount of dmg in with the 4 turn 90%, they can survive on their first morale boost turn BUT you never really want to run them slot one since other characters want hit, early damage reduction is honestly niche use but it’s ok for movie zeroes and their morale boost is awkward to plan around.The whole character is centered around that 90% damage reduction but it feels like never really get much from it due to their typically shit damage. They could’ve easily fixed the character by giving them more SoT damage and def stacking
I took this screenshot because I fucking knew what was going to happen next.Fuck this cock sucking nigger lover game.
>doing missions I haven’t done>master evolution vs rage vegeta>use str ui>has dodged 2/8 attacksThis character is coded wrong, I know this character is not coded with fucking 77% dodge or whatever, this shit always happens with him specifically, I’m certain he has 30% dodge
>>2132932>half an hp barWouldn't happen if you ran double str cooler instead of dogly
getting 30 summon points for 30 stones is awesome
>>2132967How is anon going to run 2 cell max and 2 str cooler in this hypothetical setup, anon?
>>2133178>2 cell maxYou run friend str cooler
>>2133188Then what does that have to do with dogly?
>>2133191You ignore dogly's stacking and focus on the two coolers. He's just filler.
>>2133194I see you are missing my point so I'll take my leave.
>>2133196Yes anon if you run double cooler you also drop a cell max, I didn't know you need me to state the obvious. You also don't need shitly in that setup because he does nothing, but you can bring him if you want.
What's the Arinsu team looking like?
>>2133203not great...
>got the last dupe needed to rainbow str 18 off ticketswow im actually gonna use an eza at the intended level this time!
What's a good team for the extreme FoB mission now? I'm assuming just coolers
>>2133349you need an extreme int too. amond & rasin have 90-100% dr with whis so they should be fine. or lr broly, or babidi standby. hirudegarn can stack in theory but i dont think he gets the chance with cooler.
>>2133349Double Cooler + Gomah. Cooler can survive slot 1 up to turn 45, after that gomah + ghost usher will cover the final 5 turns. Fill the rest of the team with supports and domains. I used the agl tag saiyans to avoid resetting for crits against agl gogeta. Just make sure gomah starts on turn 2 so hes lined up for the daima phase.
>>2133370I would like to add to your post and say that if manga Frieza also starts on turn 2 and floats every turn, he'll get his Entrance Animation against INT Nameku and he'll support the whole team.
>Union Master gives 200 stones>Seriously Serious gives 80 stones>IDBH gives 1000 stonesThis is why I stopped doing mid level content. It's nice to have a reserve.
Daima story refresh, 20 stones in the shop
Any suggestions on the last floater? Needs to be turtle school for my meme.
>>2133668Kaiku, tag UI, Daimaku,
Dabura's active theme has been playing inside my head for like a weeksend help
>>2133714>carried my max score burst mode run
>spending stamina on burst mode while popo event is liveshiggy
Nearly caught up with every mission and up to 1375 stones. Only one I can’t get is the vegeta family mission for the ss3 goku fight.
>>2134338what vegetas are you missing
>>2134341Daimageta, Majin buu tags, Vegeta/Nappa tag, that Hero’s vegeta and that banner unit trunks. Basically just the ones from this year. I should eza that Xeno trunks looking at it
>>2134371I did have tag mv but you can probably use ss4. Int mv gets his full passive because it's a buu saga enemy. Without items I needed a good turn from teq daima but with whis it should be easier.
>>2134396I had INT MV die to a normal slot 0 vs the second phase so that’s why I stopped. Will give it another go with that team
The only new units I've gotten this year were off free tickets.
IT'S UPhttps://x.com/dokkan_global/status/2085923960647000190
>>2134734
>>2134734OUR HEARTS TOGETHERDOKKAN BATTLE
EXTRAORDINARY CAMPAIGNS
https://x.com/dokkan_global/status/2085939057792586186
>>2134751>this shit againthey already know stackredditors will pick max length no gimmicks rainbow mission.
>>2134751oh boy I can't wait for another 50+ minute battle where the boss will randomly decide to one shot you at the last moment all for maybe ten stones!
>>2134751Grim
>>2134761>7 phases losinggenuinely surprised
>>2134734>no goofy JP adsoulless>>2134751Why is anyone pretending these choices matter as if the stage won't be a joke like last time?
>>21347637 phrases is winning on JP's end but not by too much.
>>2134779It was a joke because people picked the easiest options.
>>2134782The raw stats were undercooked.
>A Large-scale CampaignPart 1 NamekPart 2 Cell SagaPart 3 Buu Saga
If it really is a 3 part campaign, we can expect one gifted unit like 10th anni
I feel like there is a WT soon
>>2134854Reminder last DLC was a 3 part campaign.
arinsu, panji and the 2 EZAs are actually pretty gooda shame peppy gals is still a dead category.
I’m down to 200 kais
>>2134736namekfags are hallucinating
>>2134739dead monthdead threaddead game
>go into event stage>slot 0 super, business as usual>manage to dodge, do a super>2 or 3 pixels of damage done to the boss health bar 1 out of 12when was the last time you enjoyed this game? I dont think i've had any fun in the last 3 years
>>2135349Arinsu is fun right now. Metal Cooler and Majin Vegeta were fun for a while too. My only disappointment is Nappageta not being good enough to run a Saiyan arc team with.
All done with the missions. Time to link level I guess
>>2134739>campaigns >pluralsounds like a bad thing
>>2135349The new metal cooler team with full ezas is fun, but endgame hasn't been fun since 7th anni.So... guess that's 4 years, roughly, given global shenanigans.
>>2135349I am enjoying myself with the new teams that were made relevant again thanks to recent EZAs like saiyan sagait's just that there's very little content where you can play them in a manner where it actually feels like you are pushing them to their limits instead of it being either a breeze or you get instantly KO'd
>hey bro just beat gomah in 4 turns without items>btw he's got 2 phases, a total of 1.4 billion HP combined, oh and he also heals every turn and like 70% DRi'm so glad they replaced double EZA stones to put them behind these nigger tier time limited missions
>>2136148It isn’t hard though. You barely need any daima units, I think I’ve actually seen someone f2p it
My Mini Supreme Kai has sold way too many runs by dying to a slot 0 attack for someone who allegedly has an 85% chance to dodge before attacking.
>>2136197Maybe it’s actually split into 50% then a 35% chance. I get that feeling with a lot of these units that have broken up dodge chances
>try to do Seriously Serious Battle of Wits when the stage drops>fail hard>pull Arinsu and Panzy>Arinsu obliterates the enemy Panzy with 3 100+ mil supers
How do I do the tree of might goku fight without items? I tried running Dabura's team but he refuses to dodge.
>>2136310Float Metal Coolers and stuff the team with giants or make a Majin Vegeta team out of dodgers.
>>2136310Dodging and blitzing
>no peppy gals sezas for 2 years minimum
>>2136148Just 1 turn phase 1 and line up str and teq daimaku together on turn 4.
eza never
>>2136362Could wait for the super remake to hit ToP desu, would be annoying if they eza him now or alongside a ff Frieza since no bbb
SOON
>>2136362Good. I still don't have him.
>>2136390puddlehan deserves a God tier EZA
>>2136390futurehan <3
>>2136390I mean sure, 11 months is soon at the cosmic scale so I guess you're not wrong.
>>2136390>bunch of goyslop and str kinohan
>>2136390Yup yup 6 kino units but you forgot str rose seza
redpill me on dokkan day and what to do then for max utilization
>>2137294Hype Ebonics Rhyme Chamber and nothing but.Drop meat to keep leveling up and running it.And spend enough for dailies/roshi milks, as well.
>playing on jp for 5 years after i got banned for botting on global durning some bitch nigger race no one gave a fuck>still didint learn a single bit japanese because its all in moon runes>still no translation option or option to transfer to globalfeels weird man but what can i do
>>21372945x the chances to farm a god equip
sezas when
>>2137327they've changed the format for major campaign ezas this year and it seems the devs have settled on a new formula. anni ezas during anni, gdc ezas during tanabata, tanabata ezas during gdc.I wouldn't be surprised if they also plan to do anni sezas for gdc going forward since it's an anni equivalent campaign and just doing tanabata ezas leaves a lot to be desired.>tldr: probably in a month
>>2137339I was excited because the game's backlog is so huge that I figured EZAs would be pumped out at light speed, especially when 2nd anni sezas dropped 6 months after 1st annis.And then we had the worst anni ever for 11th, so who fucking knows.>worst everIn regards to the quality of the previous anni, yeah, it's no contest.
>>2137305It is the exact same experience. If you get tired of looking up every single passive, learn some of the runes you see a lot. It'll be the same ones that denote crits, dodges, ki, etc. every time. >>2137310You just mean by stamina count, right? I haven't heard a thing about the rates being boosted since the last update.
>>2137327soon
I will not play squadra for stones
You just have to fill out the survey on bandai id and it tells you the most popular choices so you don't have to keep up with assfaggot ecelebs
>>2127098ITS UP
>>2137643>kid buu medalslmao I mean I guess.
>>2137643>>2137645They seem good minus the Peppy Gals lead not getting buffed to 200%. Maybe Arinsu's team will clear everything now.>>2137650That's fucked if they're not getting their own EZB.
>>2137643Am I wrong or is her base form like much better than her transformed?>>2137645>one turn 63% dmg reductionI dunno they seem like battlefield units. Maybe AGL 21 might be better than mamba
>>2137593I’m a bit confused by the votes since one vote is who will be banned and the most popular selection is SSG Goku but then he’s the most popular character on like 90% of the other votes.Also I picked jp Dokkan as the last option since I assume the japs actually play squadron
>>2137643They should’ve made it so her base form gains def for 21 turns then her transformed form gains atk for 21 turns. They also should’ve gave her transformed form the 70% dodge or guard
>>2137657Base is good for 2 appearances. Then you choose between staying for dodge chance or transforming for stats. It's a skill check unit.
>>2137643>stacked stats but low DRso tired of thisas least peppy gals are getting something I guess
>>2137645loved this unit when it first came outglad it got a good eza
>>2137643>>213764521sisters... We should have eza'd AFTER the WWC powercreep...
>>2137667Wonder if the attack boosts are gonna be significant enough to justify transforming early. Having 70% dodge just seems better than guaranteed dying to supers and probably taking damage from normals
>>2137643>>2137645YUP. LR Kid Buu confirmed with guard for demonic power allies & 10% damage reduction for those who are also under majin power. I hath spoken.
>>2137720Big time demonic power units already have guard
>>2137643>>2137645BeholdThe first potential lowercase EZA cards in a while
>>2137643Oh shit they're actually just cancelling ezb's entirely and stuffing actual dfe's into old ones now. Yeah pack it up game's entering the pump before the dump phase of gacha.
>>2137850Might be due to licensing of 21. Which sounds silly but whatevs
>>2137717Transformed is basically guaranteed to have much better DR from turn 5, gets more defense on SA, has guaranteed additionals which is rare even in itself, has an extra 210% def in her passive, and gets BBB. It's going to be a huge difference.
>>2137921All I’m hearing is dying to supers. 70% dodge is better, transformed is a finisher
>agl with 70% critYep full dodge
What Would You Like to See in the 7th Anniversary?
>>2137948She's at 8 million defense on next to her phy counterpart, 9 with god equips. She's going to tank most supers.
>>2138083A year ago lmao
>>2138102Now. That's good enough for 15 million same class supers. You could probably count the number of bosses that reach higher with 1 hand.
We all know 12th anni will be stand alone Blue Gogeta, Blue Vegito, Full Power SS Broly and the last one is a bit up in the air but will probably be LR Merged Zamasu (corrupted) with that name instead of the dumb shit they pulled for the Teq ones
>>2138108Daima GokuMultiple Cell Max bosses Gamma 2Turn 3 tree of might Gokus 1st and Second phase I’m basically going through every boss since GDC last year, what events are you doing
>>2138132Yeah, we’re gonna hear some dumb shit like GT cope once again. The eza’s and seza to the 2nd years make it a sure thing since there is like nothing else you can do with future or the broly movie
>>2138143RE Cell Max and Tree of Might Goku can have their attack lowered and the former is vulnerable to domains. And both Gokus can only reach that much atk if you go too slow. Even if I did count them, that's only 4, not even half the RE stages.
>>2138058Maybe a dual unit with SSJ4 goku and vegeta, and a unit with god goku/vegeta. And the theme could be around dual fusions, and they could add in a 200% leader skill as well, but it would be 170 + 30% on specific categories to balance it out and encourage teambuilding. Sure would suck if they just did straight up 200% leader skills after that though
>bought two blue tickets>2 teq turles Genuinely thinking of quitting this game
>>2138206>woe is me I got two of a top 5 unit in the gameDo quit bitch
quit complaining about stones chuds!https://youtu.be/uiiUvGRfwaI
>>2138058maybe really hard content that wipes out 90% of my box?
>>2137643>>2137645>!1I hate it here
>>2138215You’re retarded, they’re not gonna hold back stones. The joined eza stuff is worth complaining about but this clearly is going to be a one off
>>2138215what do you expect for the #1 boot licker?
>>2138132Anni doesn't do vs like gdc does, with the exception of broly and janemba. If it's fusions then we're getting blue fusions and yellow fusions.
>>2138206>2 of the best unit on the bannerI could only see a negative if you already have him in which case why would you buy blue tickets
Is there a list of units that NEVER sell? I'm trying to clear some hard content and there are a lot of frauds out there.
>>2138244Kaiku, teq and phy mc, z duo, int beerus... you still have to bring merchants and gamble with crits and additionals.
>>2138238EZAs will be SS Gogeta, SS Broly, Beast and Gammas.SEZAs will be Phy Gogeta and Int Vegito.Blue Gogeta and Full Power Broly are locked in. Blue Vegito feels 60%, then you’d say the last spot is 50% but I think it will be future since we have the future ezas coming later in the week. I think Merged Zamasu (corrupted), Merged Zamasu army, just Zamasu or Rage Trunks. I think some form of Zamasu is most likely since super bosses will most likely be going through a thing with the super remake but they could do a SS rage trunks which would also link well with Broly.>>2138244Pansy
>>2138250The 5th years only had z duo as a partial lead when they eza'd. One blue fusion will lead all the super hero ezas and broly will have a pure saiyan, ss or pbss lead. They don't do anni rosters strictly around the ezas and certainly not the opponents, they didn't even do cell max even though it would be more hype than gammas.
>>2138223Just like the joined EZAs were only gonna be goku and vegeta.Remember the first one (or few) gave 40 stones and then they stopped that.
>>2138223>they’re not gonna hold back stoneswhat a cope lmao
I still don't think we're losing stones but that probably only applies to active players. Those who don't play daily will lose out on time-limited stones that replace the EZB ones.
As has been said before, I'm sure the total stones are similar or greater than before.They just add them in funky ways where before we would have just gotten 120 stones from ezas this celebration for 3 normal ezas and a peppy gal eza.It is a monkey's paw in a way, I expected the peppy gals to just use medals from an older fight with how they've been, but they just did that with 21 instead.Also, sure this is a me problem, but I can't even tell if a card is good anymore by reading it.Stats have ballooned so much that a unit can have 70% DR and get one shot. Picrel.
>>2138273This. Geppy went out of his way to give us the metal cooler stones so it's not stinginess against active players, it's putting less permanent stones in the reserve pool which already has like 15,000 stones.
>>2138273you know they can do both right?
>>2138215They're funding his next trip to LA for free and throwing in the buffet if he defends their greed
I just saw the truth meltdown wtf did you guys do??
reminder that gdc is in less than 20 days
>>2138322Diabetic rage
with the quickly diminishing stone income I see zero reason to pull on gdc when they'll rerun on the far superior anniversary banners in a mere four and a half months time. especially as I'm sitting on too many carnival and dfe coins as is. log in, do dailies over breakfast, log out and go play the new fire emblem and tits second chapter. that'll be my gdc experience.
>>2138412They haven't reduced stone income at all, they put them in different places with a higher ratio of missable stones.
>>2138293Well yes they can give extra stones compared to previous years, I just don't think they would.
30 stones!
5 stones for new RE missions
>>2138508there better be missions to expedite the actual eza medal grind, shant be bothering otherwise.
Oh shit. I just link leveled him. His kit might even be usable.
>>2138508We ALL owe Geppy an apology. Right now.
>>2134858nostradamus over here
>>2138510There's 11 more for the blue zone missions
>>2138535there are
>>2138508thank god
How good is 21?
>>2138566>literally all the stones and the medals can be gained from doing 1 to 2 runs totalling at four to five minutes of grinding in allyou know what I think I like this newer format more. thx for the info
>two exclamation pointsN-No...
>>2138613She did okay, can't complain.
This is post-EZA
>>2138613One for each tit
>>2138621nigga
>>2138621it jumps to 30m+ after she receives an attack
>>2138627>30m+middest of mid
I've seen enough. Arinsu rapes her.
This unit exists for the return to combat that last an eternity.Raising attack for 21 turns is effectively infinite stacking outside festival.
>>2138627Cowgirl 21 gets to 60-70m after one dodge/hit and has a far better support.>>2138633Pictures of this?
why couldnt she stack def for 21 turns too...
AGL Bojack EZA when
Truth wins againhttps://youtu.be/uvl3qGpgkuE?is=Fh9omKUXcv9BQmQ5
>Both EZAs are !! eachActual Peppy Gals units can't catch a break
>>2138642>Cowgirl 21Where?
>>2138854when they drop a new LR boujack
>>2138894They took from us the title from getting to level 77HE LOST
why she is so trash
>>2138215stopped watching this dude over a year agohe's so far gone it's barely funny anymore
at least it's uppercase...
CONTENT TONIGHT
Wait does that mean its wt time?
>>2139432tomorrow
GDC about to powercreep everything hard
>>2139413He's long hair Trunks but with double damage and can tank some normals.
>>2139621double 0 is still 0
>>2139682What, long hair Trunks was really good for a tournament unit. I got a lot of use out of him under double Future Gohan.
>str daimaku one shots eza kid buu so you can complete all the eza missions in 30 secondshell yeah
>new red zone missions>1 stone to clear shit like treeku that one shots even the units that came out for his celebrationYeah you can keep them.
>android missionAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEE
>>2139777Honestly could have avoided using Whis but I didn't trust the lr gammas.
>rog mission>u7 mission>rainbow vs treekutag ui doing a lotta legwork rn. probably gonna run him on ebf mission too.
>>2139777>no NY tags>no 17>no 16>no agl cell max>agl 21 at 55%I’ll give it a try with 21 but I’m thinking they can keep that stone
>>2139799your phy mira?
>>2139763>clear daima goku first shot having never run it before>6 space travelling warriorHoly hell this category has no PHY units.Rainbow Raditz takes 6 digit normals with type advantage.55% Turles takes 6 digit normals after 1 turn.What do you even run?
>>2139804raditz needs vegeta on the team for def so you'd have to bring agl nappageta. but anyway you don't have to do rainbow and category together. teq raditz is really solid for this fight.
>>2139800I have him. Was gonna go AGL 21-PHY21 - Gamma 1 - Gamma 2 - Mira - Cowgirl 21
Guess that worked, new 21s are pretty dogshit though
>job over and over with generic earthbred saiyan team>orb torture with tag gt, daima rng failing to burst the last phase, even the rainbow daima friend eating shit in slot 2>meanwhileYeah there's no doubt in my mind anymore, UI is 100% the best anni unit.
>>2139991Took a similar team, PHY UI took 1 super so I was at 1% and died with the anchor taking a triple digit normal.Pain and suffering.
HEEEEEELPPPPPPPP
>>2140217Dokkan Day is on the 15th, it's the 14th in Japan right now.
>treeku missionI just love getting raped by aoe supers
What's the best world tournament team now? I must have lost my set up
>>2140577still piccolo jr + whatever. forever.
>>2140577
>>2140598switch some of those shitters out for gomah and raditz
>>2140610no, i don't think I will
still the worst eza of nudokkan
>>2140577dunno what the best one is but last time I bothered to tryhard wt and ran>gomah>omega chadron>treeku>pickle jr>chaditz>str futurehanand casually swatted a couple of other tryhards to take 1st place in local with it after being mega lazy for day 1.>'but they're not all on gomah's leaderskillgame's so powercrept they fold everything effortlessly regardless and team cost plus base hp is what matters for scoring as far as I'm aware. as long as my and the support pickle jr is getting 200% nothing else matters.
Done all the bluezones but treeku, gonna move on to the red zones.I'll see how I feel about the CBT that is the treeku mission later.
Alright geppy bring on the next sloptent
>>2140794They aren't even THAT bad. The reaction was overblown.
>>2140827It's bad.>>2141012They're SA fodder and have no tech to avoid them.
WT time...
>>2141092... in 90 minutes
>CoEB getting a renewaltook fucking long enough and pretty much confirms a Z GDC
>>2141045Yeah I have this team but I'm running my own 55% turles instead and it's just gotten folded every run.I've cleared every other mission combined faster than the time I've put into this one.Gonna assume Treeku was just freakishly overtuned and keep at it, I guess.
>>2141130You need to have exactly the right rotations and luck. Raisin and Amond outside turn 2 is a reset. No slot 1 for turn 3 is a reset.
nigger am I tweaking or is there a skip for this garbage? why the fuck do I need to click 20 times I don't give a fuck that the unit has a little buff every turn
>>2141130I managed with this.>phase 1 turn 3 nappa takes 600k in slot 0 which gives him 100% dr and lets me delay whis>vegeta active, take 20k from the aoe under whis, buffed raditz deals 70m crits ×3>teq mc rapesAgl shitza has to be slot 1 in phase 2 but at least he links up with cooler.
>>2141135Yeah was on the line for the first time in multiple dozens of attempts and then the agl banner unit didn't dodge the aoe super so I took 3.2 million through a whis.>>2141138I might shift to something like this and give up on doing a rainbow clear with this team. It feels wild that I have every unit that came out for this celebration yet this is still the hardest fight of all of them.
>>2141144Kinda defeats the purpose of overlapping 2 missions when it takes 20x longer
>WTmeh. i'll do my 30 mil run tomorrow
>>2141137there isn't and i hate it
>>2141146I've just never cleared Treeku before so I want to get both the limited time missions done then wait for more powercreep so it's actually enjoyable.I also hadn't done Cell Max or Daima before this event.
your beerus?
>>2141157Same place as my NY tags, next month. Looking at what the banners will be, it’s easy to skip the carnivals for GDC this year and pity one of them if the headliner is good
What's the best leader/team for WT?I'm using Gomah with Piccolo Jr + Saiyan Saga AoE.
>>2141328Majeta + Goku has a lot of HP and leads Piccolo Jr.
last night i had a dream that dokkan tweeted out mienshao was getting a super eza
>>2141328I still got double wt piccolo, 3 aoe vegetas, lr Ginyu and gomah. I have seen wt piccolo in the first rotation about 5/40 runs
Part one: DFE FF Frieza vs Carnival Kaioken GokuPart two: DFE Bye Guys SS Goku/SS2 Gohan tag vs Carnival Perfect CellPart three: DFE LR Kid BuuNew mechanic: Something like cumulative team damage or hits taken powering up characters like zenkai boosts for Kaioken Goku and “enjoyment” for kid buu
>>2141597>Carnival Kaioken GokuI feel like they could do a standy Genkidama into Super Saiyan.
>>2141679Kindly, fuck off.I want a real kaioken times 20 goku.I'm still mad INT Tree of Might Goku is so ASS.
The WT HP thing is a meme btw. I posted about it originally when the futurehan meme started circulating and it "works" but it doesn't matter. I tested both high HP and crits to death and even on a lucky streak it saves you maybe 20-35 stamina total. Just run a bunch of aoe around majr to go fast.
>>2141679I would personally prefer a strong Kaioken Goku with no SS. I think it’s likely too given how little of Kaioken Goku vs FF freiza is in the game
>>2141802There is zero chance they do a gdc nameku without SS.
>>2141778You weren't running both simultaneously?
>>2141841I mean I ran the highest hp I could either way but when you're running str piccolo it cancels it out. I think one time it saved me a whole run but I got really lucky with bonus enemies, and that's what 60 stamina
>>2141860I don't know if it makes that much difference, particularly if you have to protect him with an item after the Dokkan 2 update. I like units like Raditz who can just work with no maintenance and don't have super slow animations like Treeku.
namek celebration with no ezas is crazy work
>>2141812We had GDC with base blues and active skill Vegito last year
>>2141975it worked for omega
>>2141975namek f2p team incoming
>>2142013We already had a fusing gdc blues 2 years prior. They won't have a major celebration base nameku that doesn't transform.
>>2141975>him>str/agl FF Freeza>3rd form Freeza>Frontier units>str Nameku and WWC 2018 SEZAsThere is enough.
>>2141975they'll eza random villains and super saiyans on their leader skills, it doesn't have to be all namek
>dokkan day on wtbased stamina boost
What’re the guesses for the GDC theme again bros?
>>2142201namek is locked in. part 2 could be anything but i say kidku vs dkp.
>dokkan day during wtthese fucking retards
>>2142329that means extra stamina for wt and even refills using time chamber exp
>>2141679People want to use characters right away, not only use them for 2 turns halfway through the fight. It'd be better if we got a SSJ goku now and a kaioken goku dokkanfest later in the year. They really need to not completely abandon namek saga after gdc.
>don't have to select 112 characters for clash anymore>frontier missions can now be cleared with a special guest>game center achievements addedGeppy making big moves
Done my 23m. Now I can sit comfy the next two days.
>>2142732redpil me on the game center
fuckin dokkan day is over
>>21429261 stone for each cheevo like in the hoyo games
I hate the ss4 tags
>>2142877Your daily clears for 3 stones?
>tickets gave me the last copy needed to rainbow 2017 ssj3 gt goku>finally traded all the other dupes for 24 coins (half dfe half carnival)
>>2143006i thought only i hoarded stone dupes until i rainbow with free ones
>>2143006>>2143018Any intelligent player does this to some extent though it's been much harder since wish strips disappeared.
>bonus final with a bunch of ancient LRs>240k pointsholy shit
>>2143018we all do this I thought
>>2142988Same. Whatever GT celebration ezas fpss4 also needs to give us a better orb changer than Pan.
>>2142991Yeah I can do the missions and reach 30m. Comfy
>>2142400>one stamina refresh for wt is better than dumping a whole day of stamina link levelingbro, there's meat for that
>>2143111thus lets you save meat
>>2143018>>2143025i try to at least unlock the gold slot first but after that i save
>it’s another use Str UI mission
>>2143165I made a full RoG team without the tag or that bum.The downside was using teq SSBK.
>>2143166Was able to win it, do the rainbow mission and survive this turn all in 3 attempts. Feels nice
>>2143165I actually just brought the vegeta instead and he did fine enough.>>2143025Way too much management trying to remember which are coinable and which aren't, I'll take my L.
>>2143387>go to baba shop>coin tab>lock dupesez. You don't even have to do it much if you're an old player only missing units that actually deserve investment.
>>2143399I guess now that it's not 20 pages anymore this isn't the worst idea.
it's time
This might be the first World Tournament I skip. I can't be assed to grind this shit anymore.
>>214352650 stones and Gomah is on the ticket banner
i'm hoarding my tickets until piccoloku is on the banner. if he spooks me on a banner i'll wait until turles. and so on.
I always chuckle when this happens.
>>2143460flop of the century!!!
>>2143460fastest top grossing ever
>>2143526I reckon it's the next thing they're updating since everything is becoming low grind nowunless nips really love it
>>2143460I'll do whatever discounts they have but nothing past that.
>>2143546Alright, I will do it but this is the last time.>>2143775They have to progress past this ancient mobile game shit where everything takes hours. People don't have time anymore and mobile games aren't as popular. They still haven't fully embraced the emulators for dokkan which is absurd in the year 2026. I know some moblie games like summoners war had to create auto battling and battling while the game was closed because people stopped caring about logging in every day to do their chores. Dokkan needs to adapt.
>beat these incredibly annoying fights using these incredibly old category units for 1 stonethe fatigue is fully set in bros, i don't want to deal with timed missions and bosses with billions of HP anymore
>>2143791My biggest thing about World Tournament is that it is mind numbingly boring. Repetitive pointless content.
What is everyone's fastest time when getting 30 million points in the world tournament?
>>2143888i stop at 23 mil
>>2143888I average 5-6 minutes per win so 2 and a half hours I guess. I used to go up to 60 or 70 million before the sync put global and JP tournaments at the same time.
>>2143815None are that hard though. I beat all the category ones in less than 3 tries then did the tougher rainbow ones like stw and androids separately
Just hit 1500 stones before the countdown. Hopefully that’s enough for pity so I can ignore the carnival banners
>>21438882 days and change.Why would I sperg out when I can't even be bothered to spend my stamina normally? This is the only time for 2-3 months my stamina doesn't sit capped every day.
>>2143888Just finished, between getting slighty distracted watching videos It took about 3 hours.
first time i did a burst mode more than once, just to try dabura and xeno teams. i'll need the medals anyway.
>>2143888I'm only at 15 wins as of now....
Dead week ahoy
i mean it's cool the new update is making this permanent, but it should be free. would make the game more fun when you can mess around with builds whenever you want
>>2141443I kinda wonder now what EZA's of a pokemon would look like (aside from mega evolutions which kinda serve the same purpouse)
>>2143815I think I'm done trying the Treeku one, I'm clearly a skill-let losing with the same teams people post.
The answer to the first question is 'false', they foresee the enemy super attack for ten turns not seven.
>>2139976This team keeps getting me killed. Is the support film required?
>>2144469This is false? It’s 10 turns>>2144498I’ll see if I can do it without
we can now sort by full leader skill
>>2144498Seems like you need the support film since it gets my 55% AGL21 over the damage threshold. I think I also didn’t whis one turn and let dodge or die happen
>>2144641The engoodening of geppy
>gomah frontier skinhell yeah
>U7 repsthis mission is pure dodge or die RNG, or am i missing something? Do the nips really enjoy this type of missions?
I've been saving the RE Zones for later ever since they became permanent, what the fuck is this Kid Gohan? How blatant can you be with the "summon for the newest unit" (TEQ Turles) bullshit?
>>2144645Fuck. I haven't done SBR in years just to save stones. GDC better be Namek.
>>2144969Yeah, the fight is pretty easy though since Freiza/17 don’t do anything
They're gonna do a bait banner with metal cooler in it.
4chan maintenance is over, where's our apology Clover Stones?
>>2145067Metal Cooler isn't on it. The equips were in the JP update.https://dokkan.game-db.org/db/leak-info/
>>2145188>looks at list>str roshi>teq base vegeta>lr pikkon>lr tien>lr ss trio>tanabata golden freezaI thought bait was supposed to at least pretend to be appealing. guess gdc's picks must be pretty lackluster this year if they don't feel the need to bait ahead of it.
>>2145502T R U E
>>2145502>please scour our twitter to find the answerFuck you, I thought with the first question we'd have good questions this time.
last minute bait banner
>>2145589
the other one
gdc is their last chance to rerun gohan before the december carnival, which would be a 1 year gap, so he's guaranteed to be coming up. 5guys first rerun was also wwc.
>100 stones for 4 featuredThat's not bait that's amazing.
>>2145602readletbro...
>>2145602It's gssr for the 25 stones not gfssr.
>>2145591150 in, got Gohan but no Tien or Clownren
>>2145615>GohanThe future one I mean
>>2145591nice got my first gomah
>>2145610Ah nice.Still got my first kid gohan and an MV dupe between the 4 25 stone multis, big hit.I also got 2 more MVs on the 100 stone banner, one of which was overkill, but this is the best shaft possible for me. Love this motherfucker.
So you grab the Roshi equips and who else? Anyone else not have seriously serious equips that we can throw on for free?
Feeling cute, might delete later.
>>2145591kaiku still runnable?
>>2145916Yeah, just not on AoE stuff
>>2145480It could also mean GDC is DB or Cell with that random Vegeta and every DB release in the last 2 years but 1.>>2145589>>2145591This is the first time a bait banner won't get me. 1/7 odds are too fucking terrible.
Faggot ass devs let me buy Vegeta
>>2146300I want that Gohan, trunks duo unit
Why the fuck has the int future gohan not been in the coin shop yet?
>tao>and thisI wasted 200 stones
>>2146516King Cold w
>>2146524got another on the dokkan banner and int saibamen which I didn't have eitherthe other day I pulled like 4 featured in a multi and still didn't get the new unit, my luck is twisted
>summoned on the 2 25s to get the new MV or a second dupe for Tao>second summon Vegito got Tao to 79% and twice the amount of coins that 50 would givevery basednew captcha sucks btw
our king datruth is not on cinna's stream?
nano has gotten fat
filtered and hidden
>>2146749why is cinna niggerhaired
Can't wait for the new goku. It's been ages since the last one.
>>2146873THIS
>>2147238F A L S E
>>2147238no it's the two categories on his leader skill
>tfw no qt jap dokkan gfhttps://x.com/dokkan_official/status/2089925321659146496
>>2147416
>>2147416Where's the EN version with a young black transkween
>>2147424https://www.youtube.com/shorts/QPI1QGaMfRM
>>2147416NAMEKCHADS IT'S TIME
>>2147416>>2147434>Zenkai Power in the backgroundAs if we needed any more confirmation.https://youtu.be/bct1TU2P58w
>>2147416You just know she watches datruth
>>2147482>sees qt japanese girl>thinks of a fat jewish manpeak american
>>2147502Wait is he actually jewish? lmao
if the gameplay for the mission is clicking the orb, throwing my hands up and hope for a dodge i'm simply not doing it
Dubs: summon for majgetaSingles: don’t >>2147416She looks like she sleeps alone
I was on top of my friend's list for WT.Did most of the people I added here before stop? I'd believe it.
>>2147781I finished 2.2k. I have most people still added from chain battle but left have basically not logged in between February-July and October-January last year
Who benefits the most from the new bait banner equips?
Countdown should start Saturday(?). Will there be a stream revealing the art then or will it just be a trailer and character reveal?Then next week should probably be memorial stones and Teq Bardocks eza, maybe LR Phy Bardocks SEZA>>2147966Gomah or Majin tag
Part 1 Namek SagaPart 2 Cell SagaPart 3 Buu saga
>>2147781i just do the missions and stop
i now spend meat to get top 50 local for the extra ssr ticket.
>>2147253Nice bait, but remember that's the EZA version of Cooler.
>>2147966Why the hell would you even summon? Now the F2P equips are better there is 0 reason to summon on that garbage.
>>2148101This, it's pathetic that I can get top 20k that way now. I remember how cutthroat top 10k was back in the day when you had to do 80 wins for 1 GSSR ticket.
>>2148225lr goku and gohan gdc eza is a no brainer
>>2148225they are saving that frieza for the black frieza celebration in 5 more years
>>2148225Likely: LR Goku and Gohan, Teq Bardock, LR Super Buu, Teq Super Trunks, SS TrioUnlikely: Phy Angel Freiza, Str Gohan and PiccoloWildcard: LR Teq Gohan and Piccolo
>>2148225Heroes will get EZAs before Angelza
I come from the futureGDC has GT in it and both DFE Str 17s and Agl Omega EZA
>playing frontier>click missions>"Missions updated, returning to home screen">go back to frontier>click missions>"Missions updated, returning to home screen"
>>2148689false, it's 30%
>>2148689
>>2148244I still don't have the INT Ss Trio and wanted it
>>2148871They are so far beyond aged out they didn't even hold up in the last Battlefield.
>>2148876
>>2148907Massively raises attack for 3 turns? That seems cool. But 9 orbs for 73% dmg reduction, not many stats and a 7 turn lifetime is a bit spooky. It would also have been cooler if their 12 ki support was permanent like LR V&T
>>2148907>extra stats for X turns!*>actually X/2 because it also counts when the character is not in the rotationi'm tired of this slop passive, same for extra stats for 1 (one) turn from the start of battle
>>2148907i've had these guys at 55% for ages
>>2148907These guys have been featured like twice how are they already EZAing.I can't in good faith coin an EZA at 55% so I guess I'll never get to know how good they are.
>>2148907>needs 9 orbs>no guaranteed additional super>great chance I hate this shit so much
>>2148907>>2148923>first dropped xmas 2023>8 months later returns for broly wwc banner>2 years later returns on 1 to 2 summon bait bannersbruh
Didn’t even realize I had them
>>2148907>450/200% and 200/200% raw stats>only change to their core design is easier orbsThey seem 5guys level so upper mid. Anon definitely should not have pulled on the bait banner for this.
Wow that eza looks like dogshit. high chance to dodge (lol) and an average of 66% damage reduction for the first seven turns is awful. doesn't even matter if they hit hard because they will be dying as soon as the enemy hits them modestly hard which will happen fairly frequently because lmao high chance to dodge.>>2148923>I can't in good faith coin an EZA at 55%Well that's the best part, they're not available to coin right now anyway lol
>>2148907>trunksa gorillion more buffs for the str blues team!
>>2148225tf is guppy doing ezaing the end of 2023 units so damn early
soon
>3 !/dokkan/ lost
Movie heroes continuing the streak of absolute mid
>int SS trio were dogshit on release and dogshit on ezaSad life
>>2149333Nah, I got plenty of use out of them on the PHY Broly movie Trio's team.Nice trips though
>Kid Kuririn 100 million attack in a semi-realistic scenarioI'm surprised no one has mentioned this. He just needs a team.
Saiyan Saga countdown into Namek saga part 1with teq Bardock being the countdown eza >>2148225hell yeah
TRAPPED and BETRAYED by maintenance in 2 hours
I give up on androids and rep 7 missions
>>2150015Fuck. The Space-Traveling Warriors mission took forever and I'm still in the middle of my SBR grind to get the support film for Cell Max.
>>2150016do you have str gamma 2? he and agl can nuke cell for half his health. you can run him as a friend since the 3 peppy androids are on battle of wits, and the 4 of them fulfill 18's condition.
>>2150019>beat Cell Max right after maintenance startedI have to do it again, don't I?
There can be no more doubt.
>>2150052Yeah i do.
>>2150216I wonder if geppy thinks he's being slick.>heh, surely they'll think this means saiyan saga
>mid unit gets a sick battle motionit's not fair
>>2150292Truearoo.
>>2150292i can't check because of maintenance
what happens when gdc isn't 3 parts
>>2150325We already know it's lasting 2 months from the returning events and burst modes.
IT'S UPhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/oZIIkcbDdr8
>>2150325It'll be Z into Beerus Super to coincide with the new anime
>>2150325i don't think the ticket banners lasted until the end of october last time
>>2150330CUI GODS IT'S TIME
>>2150330Bejitabros... i kneel...
>>2150334reminder
>>2150364The absolute best part of that shit show
This is a nice change
>>2150586The compatibility is an amazing change, yeah. I'd given up on putting units under full leader skills because it was such a pain to do 6 variations of and statements.
>>2150586you can also sort by unit release date now
>>2150629best part of the update
>finally get around to the new Quest stages>almost get Majin Piccolo>Dabura freed from Babidi's controlAmbivalent Dabura is always cool to see, hope he stays an ally.
It’s always funny to me they literally remade SS2 Gohan
>saiyan saga demoted to countdown fodder
Has Geppy redeemed himself? It was a rocky start to his tenure, but things have been heading in the right direction after the time-gated content was scrapped.
even though omatsu was behind 11th anni when the timegating started...
>>2151041>after the time-gated content was scrapped.Bro we got only 7 days to do EX missions in the middle of a WT and a maintenance
>>2150932>LR Piccolo/Goku>LR Kid Gohan EZA>LR Goku&Piccolo EZA>Vegeta/Nappa>STR Nappa EZA>Saibaiman>PHY and TEQ Raditz EZAWe already got enough Saiyan Saga content for 2026.
>>2150883I like that they're trying with the narrative now. If only they did from the beginning, they wouldn't be constricted by the dogshit they did at first and the quality could be on par with Legends' story.
>>2151432I'm looking forward to see who Baby possesses
>>2151360>still no well animated galick gun vs kamehameha >still no good kaioken TIMES FOUR cardsaiyan saga anni headliners or bust
Why did we get 5 boosts
>only Kaioken x20 card is a 2018 TUR
What's the cutoff for the memorial stones? 100% no Metal Cooler right?
>>2151848no, it usually goes up to june of last year, so tao and earlier.
>>2149321>gave more exclamation points to the golden week units than both metal cooler army and dabura>gave the same amount to metal cooler army as he did lr god vegeta>only gave RRA piccolo 2the guy is a retard you really shouldn't take him seriously
>>2151892mc's exclamations were correct before the support he got later
>>2151892nah he's awesome actually
>>2151847Also this piece of shit who awakens from Saiyan arc to Namek and gets neither category as a result. Godgeta's team got murdered in comparison.>>2151896He cleared everything on day 1 and carried garbage teammates like Garlic Jr. and Babidi.
Why don't we have units from all the movies? I want garlic jrs henchmen.
We still need LRs for>Android 13>Lord Slug>Hirudegarn
ITS UP
How the fuck are you supposed to clear this Gomah stage in 4 turns
>>2152071>Cooler mentionedTEQ METAL COOLER BROS OUR BUFFS ARE COMING
>>2152099he's vulnerable on the third turn of phase 2 so line up str and teq daimaku to nuke him
Memorial stones just dropped. My id ends in 8.
>>2152102What rotations on what turns
They dropped all the memorial stones at once. Also the 100,000 friend point banner is up.
>11,000 green gems from expired popo medalsi kinda liked them carrying over between popo reruns but i grind it enough anyway i guess>>2152112doesn't matter as long as long as you 1 turn phase 1 and the daimakus end up together on turn 4, just float whatever you have to.
>140 tickets for 1 dokkanfest unitGot rid of my shaft for GDC.
>>2152123At least they didn't split the banner
>>2152123I haven't gotten a single new featured since anni, you think 1 shaft will save you?
>142 ticketsThere goes my gdc luck
>>2152123Mine was pretty mediocre outside this mult (finished godku and the 23rd wt goku, 3rd dupe for INT MV). I'd say it was good overall, one new unit in INT Saibaman.
>>2152110I got way, way too few stones this year. Did they actually give out less or did I just not summon as much?
>people constantly said the stone income hasn't gone down every time I've said it did>around 25 memorial stones less than last yearV I N D I C A T E Dtickets were a complete shaft as well. three fucking raditz's and that bum phy pikkon. guess the tickets were as rigged as the banners have been this year. should've just grabbed myself a hirudigarn copy and bailed.
>>2152163it means you summoned less not that you had less stones
>new TEQ Bardock>finished Gamma1I'm still missing TEQ Pan and PHY Turles.Crazy how unhype this was, pulled a dupe for TEQ Kaiokek blue but he was released power crept like every modern unit so it doesn't matter
>82 tickets2 new units and a couple of useful dupes, feels good
>>2152163Did last year not come after and include gdc
>>2152168I pulled a bunch of trash and 3rd dupes. I am only missing Hit and 1st Form Freeza but it still hurts getting several DFEs/LRs I've already rainbowed and a single new unit in str Dyspo.
I keep bringing AGL Nappa/Vegeta as my last unit but holy hell they've been crept to death and back.I guess I should get this INT Saibaman up asap. At least TEQ Great Ape Vegeta can hold on still.
>got cocky and tried to do modern contentOh yeah okay my bad, right, forgot I'm supposed to just wait for powercreep.Great Ape Gohan did 900k to my rainbowed MV post super and then slapped babidi for 2.4 million with a normal at the end of turn 1.
you're supposed to build every unit full dodge and give them dodge equips. You're supposed to dodge every attack while chipping away at the enemy 1.5B HP bar for 40 minutes. That's the intended way to play in case you haven't figured it out already in the last 3 years
SEZA soon? He was dead on arrival back in 2022
>>2152396I'm using Saiyan Saga with no issues so far. Get AGL kid Gohan from the WT shop if you have the signatures and build him full dodge since he supports a lot.
I hate the SS4 tags
>>2152420Oh wait, I take that back. I'm retarded.Yeah, you absolutely need modern content units or ones that nullify supers/dodge.
>>2152428Oh yeah, he disables dodge. Woops. Better bring STR Goku then. AGL Gogeta might fair well alongside INT due to Super counter.
GDC and 12th Anni? Both are skips
Does anyone remember from the last time a Burst Mode was renewed, do I have to clear it again or will I get the same amount of points from my last attempt again?
>One copy of TEQ Bardock and 2 AGL First Form Frieza dupes among other cards These guys better EZA during the countdown or GDC proper
Z Heroes and Z Bosses status?
>>2152417He was very underrated in 2022 as most mid units are.
>>2152417Him and STR FP Frieza
>had to take auto battle off at stage 8 for int SS trioNyo…>>2152778I have a memory of him being worse than when they released him. Like his base couldn’t keep up the meta it was released in and the SS form wasn’t anywhere near worth the trouble. On his OG release I’m pretty sure he helped with a ton of missions.
>>2152431>ATK -40% after receiving a Physical Super Attackgimmick fight>>2152786He was definitely worse than release but that's because he came out just before the LGE meta as a stacker.On EZA, base was a bit squishy but they buffed his transformation condition which helped a lot. The main problem was always just the rng guard after transforming. He'd be respectable if you were in a phy phase or got lucky.
What the fuck is a physical super attack do they mean unarmed
is there some free bot like back then with the bot16 from that discord?
>>2152962ki blast is projectilesunarmed is hand to handphysical are weaponsother is like magic or something
>debuff gohan's attack>daima goku still takes 800k from the super
I feel this meta creep is gonna be damage centric and not defence. They’ve went a bit too crazy the past year >>2152973Other is combinations so like cell max’s hit then mouth blast
>>2153004The chart must be wrong (>>2152431), I was in giant mode as Gomah on turn 4 and the super was doing 18m. That would make more sense since daimaku has 10m thresholds
>>2153063It's 15% stronger than the raw stat because of opposite class. Daimaku just isn't that good of a tank.
Realm of GAWDS (I probably should've capped the gohan)
https://youtu.be/aZRIxEkW2Q4?si=8AgHG_J_K5_9dggIITS UP
146 Tickets.Only NEW unit is AGL Kale. LR Janemba, Bardock, Gohan and Veggie have been rainbowed for years :^)
Coolabros...our honeymoon phase is over....
>>2153261That shit was over day 1, did you try taking this guy to Treeku?The 40% before attacking exists for aoes turn 1 and thats it.
142 tickets and all I got of note was Pui Pui. Anything else was something I already had at maxed dupes.
So they nerfed the shit out of Battlefield and took all our stones? That's awesome.
>>2153311it says they'll add more stages to it
>>2153311it's ok, they'll put the stones behind time limited ex missions where you need to use the newest summonable unit and 5 other unrunnable units from the category. The community seems to love this change
A STONE NERF JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE
>>2153311Geppy got vewy angery with me logging in 1 day a month to grab everything in a couple of hours instead of staying on the daily drip feed
The best content from the geppy era was him grinding meta coolers like it was fun and engaging content then just throwing on a fake modifier before quitting.
>>2127098Hey so I ran this unit and I know we have insane real numbers but she shat out like 3 55 million supers guaranteed for my battle of wits mission in seriously serious battles so she can't be all bad.I guess the question is how that 42% dr and no dodge is gonna hold up (it's not).
>>2153938She is barely scrapping by in the meta and my 55% on is shooting out 20m attack so I hate her
>>2153955Yeah, I do have 3 dupes in mine. Not to say she's great or anything, but ever since 10th anni, it's been increasingly clear that EZAs are designed entirely around having multiple dupes. If you have a unit under 79% when it EZAs, just take the stones and keep moving.
based tickets
>>2153261>Turn 1 i.e. 0 stacks>TEQ G Frieza (cope pick)>SPD Cell Max in a MC team
I got lots of mileage out of 55% fistku
Does Dragon stone 11 go away? I have 5 and I already have everyone rainbowed.
>>2154260no
>>2153261>putting lr cooler in slot 1>everAverage lr golden freeza user right there.
>>2154333Thanks them naming stuff always worries me. It's like all the retarded coins.
>released too early to be a tag>released too early to eza with the rest of namekGohan/piccolo got shafted so hard...
4 more dayhttps://www.youtube.com/live/tOLndvPH-Jc
>>2154104A dodge or die unit can make the difference, so I think "normal" 21 will see use for a bit.The issue is that, like, my 7th anni monkeys and 8th anni gt duo were worthless on eza because both were 55%. Maybe it's moreso an issue with stackers, but they were both just getting shot after turn 1. Hell, the former now just die turn 1.
They have to add a way to make it easier to do this kind of grinding. Why do they force me to manually do these in 2026? It takes too much time and effort.
>>2154968I stopped caring about anything that isn't a base goku.I have 900 kais.If I run out I'll just quit.