Road to GDC
eza soon
Daima being 3 weeks of filler feels insane.Guess it's "better" than the 1 week we had before.
CELL SAGA GDC
>>2127203It's been 7 years since the last perfect cell but we don't need another gohan.
>>2127211Yeah we do, the last one was the equivalent of str ssbe and they redeemed him a year later.
>>2127214We didn't need another SSBE either. It's a dogshit transformation that shouldn't get a card more than once in 5 years.
>>2127203>eza goku & gohan>eza virus goku>eza ssj1 gohan>eza super trunks>seza friend point 17 & 18HAHAHA YESSS... YEEEESSSS!!!!but also who invited that retarded sword of hope nigger
>>2127217We need all the 10th anni carnivals as real cards. Even GT goku got jewed on his animations.
just give me a carnival ssj4 vegito with the ssj4 gogeta animation quality thats on GT heroesoh and a ssj pan on GT heroes
>>2127231except the supershit, especially the Gokuza that got crickets on reveal. Goku and Gohan can wait until the 10th anni ones are ready to EZA.If anything, the fusions are what need new cards with how little they got.
>>2127235They're not mutually exclusive. But enjoy malding at the dbs fusions on 12th anni because all 9th anni ezas are dbs.
>>2127249I wasn't implying they are. There's just been too much SS4 spam lately and we have 3 different versions of the Father-Son Kamehameha with top notch animations now. We need more variety.
>powered up version 6 LRs?
>>2127252who's the third namek lr
I don't get why people are glazing this guy in MC teams>MC and co requires stacks to function>does decent damage and can tank reasonably well for 4 turns but becomes a huge liability after that
>>2127269He gets 7 turns and you can go giant with him immediately if need be.
>>2127269As the other anon said, you get 4 turns of real stats, giant on 7 so you have no supers, then he comes back on 10.No current content is going 10 turns, and that's the worst case scenario assuming he's on turn 1.
>>2127098God I hope she gets god tier treatment.
>>2127098We're getting bulma eza, daipa ss3 leads dragon ball seekers.
>>2127231what we NEED is an LR kid goku that's as busted as str beast was to make up for getting jewed out of the 10th anniversary by TWO topslop units
>>2127411He gets the guard and def plus extra after turn 5. Luud could survive turn 10 in a best case scenario.
How the helly do you no item gamma 2
>>2127896look at any of the guest clears except the obvious cheaters using version z goku
>>2127909>beast>beast>50 mc teams>cell max movie bosses>cheaters
>>2127925I just used friend beast
ez mission, suck my dick Gomah
geppy gals soon
>>2127909I used this
>>2128384>puddlehanAiiiieeeeeee I want him so bad
>>2128298geppy is a homo and it's going to be men this year
>>2128760We all summon for muscular men here. And some of us pay for it.
can someone fucking explain why to me that Gohma becomes a wet paper towel in regards to defense after like turn 5? am i using him wrong? Motherfucker just lost me a fight when i had it right down to the wire and he ate a super for over 10 mil in slot one
>>2129128like i get he loses 66% dr after getting hit like 3 times but he's supposed to get atk and deef every single turn he shows up so what the fuck
>>2129128He's invincible early when he has full DR and late when he's stacked. There's a window between those where he's vulnerable and you rely on rng, dodge or giant form.
>>2129132and what about ssj4 daimaku? he seems to be able to tank almost anything as a slot 1 but its the same deal with him, after like 5 turns he just melts even if he's slotted first
>>2129137That's just bosses mogging him in the late phase. His def is completely static the whole fight.
>>2129128Gomah is dodge or die except he has 4 lives and a giant form.
>>2129148(giant form that sucks ass)
>>2129151At least the active does good damage.
Having so many stones has made me complacent.I know it's less than the giga hoarders, but I look at my 800 stones and go>you know, maybe I don't need to do that 6 losing type mission for 2 hours for one stone.
>click Super 3>change friend>click top ssj4 daimaku>start>check starting rotation>it's a dud>menu>abandon quest>yes>click super 3>...What a fun mission, I love turn 4 Gomah kill.
>>2129268Okay so...
>>2129314... maybe this...
>>2129315... was overkill.
>>2129318Geppy's content is so balanced and forgiving...
>>2129242It has been insanely easy to build up to 1k stones since they made regular Dokkan Fests shit with 10 features.
>>2129323Yeah I'd be at 1150 right now but I did 300 on Beast and Cell Max. Former kind of fucked me but latter was great value.
>>2129131stacking def means nothing without DR.
>>2129498or guard
>>2128298guppy loves androids so i have complete faith in cowgirl 18's eza
Remember when they teased the idea of guard or damage reduction skill orbs in a survey?
>>2129867I don't know how they would do Guard orbs unless it's just a chance to guard, which seems almost worthless
>>2129867They should copy OPTC more and have Super Orbs that boost super effective damage by X amount
>>2129954I mean technically you can just give your characters more Type ATK Boost orbs, but that stat barely makes a difference and only applies to one type.
>>2129964They could have >Super [Type] Orb where if you collect it with the same type character it gives +10 type effect damage per OrbOr something, or maybe it buffs Super Effective damage by +0.1x per Orb
>>2129954That's useless, super-effective will always be an inferior crit.If they're going to evolve skill orbs, it would have to be with the entire list of mechanics you see when you try to filter your units by "skill effect".
>>2127259blooma
>>2129867i bet they scrapped it and are now letting new units do that for the team insteadlike the new ssj3 mini can give the rotation guaranteed crit if it ex supers or the ssj3 adult daima vegeta can give all daima units guard after turn 4i bet if they added those kind of skill orbs they'd add a 4th slot which can only be used if you rainbow the unit
>back to baby mode battlefieldSo lame
they couldve at least given angelku a super eza before all the hype deflated
>>2130168I'm still holding out hope. He was so fun back in the 120% meta and he'll slot in perfectly if GDC is Boo arc.
>>2130051people here were complaining that Luud wasted their entire run tho
New guradiemere stage is just find a way to run LR Daimaku
MOMMY
UOH
>peppy gals with real leader skillsgeppy was a gooner all along...
>daiper>daiper galslmaooo
>>2130416>Realm of Godshuh?
>>2130420I'm guessing its purely so they supreme kai can be on the full leader skill
>>2130414So 90% chance of dodging and 60% dmg reduction and guard before attacking but only guard, 50% dmg reduction and maybe 30% dodge after attacking? Her passive numbers don’t seem too crazy so is it another TEQ pan situation?
>>2130434It's 70% DR before attacking and no guard, after attacking 60% DR and guard. Looks like the supers are random and she gets 30% dodge per Kuu super, up to 4 times.
>>2130440No wait 60% DR before and after, or 50% after with 11 ki, but then she gets her 2 additional supers (normals)
>>2130416>one time 80% dodge then no other dodge>only 20% damage reduction So either she has good numbers and that’s an AoE defence or what’s the point of her if she’s just going to explode if two normals are aimed at her. I get that she makes the new goku and teq ss4 one pretty untouchable so I dunno how good she is>>2130440Oh I missed that line. So you wanna hit 11 ki of there is a bunch of attacks slot zero and one and 12ki if there’s only like one attack in slot one. Pretty good, will make the not being able to select orb path problem annoying again though
>>2130446Aoe protection with mediocre stats. She'll survive normals in the current meta that's about to get btfo in a month.
>>2130416>dodge or die daipa editionat least she makes for an interesting 220 leader I guess
>dodge or daipa
>>2130456kek shit I should have thought of that first.
>>2130446I guess the one time dodge and interruption means should could have some niche use. Still gonna predict she’ll have like 20-40m attack, hope I’m wrong
>>2130414>>2130416>neither is actually on Peppy Gals
mamba is fucking cracked wtf
>>2130414>>2130416>>2130485>not on peppy gals >the units are actually goodthere is literally no explanation for this other than sexism
>EZAs a peppy gals support>the 2 new girls doesn't have peppy gals in their category>but Panzy somehow has "Youth" as part of her category despite being canonically an 80 years old>yet giving her peppy gals is too muchthis fucking game man
>>2130534Whose leaderskill is she even on? Still mad they do that secondary villians aren’t GT/movie bosses
>>2130416We got characters leading categories they're not on now (with no gimmicks like Roshi and BoGku)? I guess that means we can get DFEs with only like 3 categories now.
>>2130592The gimmick is that it hits the characters they specifically support
>>2130414>Arinsu on Demonic Power>Mini Supreme Kai on Demonic PowerWhen are they putting the other Glinds on Demonic Power?
>>213055280 is a child in demon years
ok i guess i'll do it then
>>2130414This is the first time we've gotten a pseudo DFE since what, str 21? Her banner will probably be shit but I might just summon if not.>>2130416If she can break 2 actions with her procs, that's insane. Otherwise, whatever.
>>2130732>>2130733These seem kind of bare. 18 is a dodge or die beat stick and Mamba has no additionals.Also the new animations are really bad now that I look at them, ez skip.
>>2130608Probably never. It’s like vegeta not being on siblings bond until what’s his name is introduced
>>2130732not as bad as i thought, you can still run her on androids team
>>2130771I think that's less about Tarble existing and more that he only get his bond with him after the events of Goku and Friends Are Back.Buu Saga Dabura has Sibling's Bond despite Towa being a game-only character.
They HAVE to do something about the size. How is an entire 3D Monster Hunter game somehow smaller than Dokkan?
>>2130795Yeah, they need to make it bigger by adding HD card arts.
>>2130795I'm gonna be completely honest, when people complain about storage space that's only 20gb, it feels like a 3rd world issue.Modern phones have hundreds of gigs of space, mine is currently 512gb and dokkan barely makes a dent.
>>2130816It's not just a "third world issue". I'm just not paying 500 dollars extra for more storage. Also, there are more games than just Dokkan, so the space adds up. There really isn't a good reason for Dokkan to be as big as it is.
>>2130819You can buy refurbished new gen iPhones for less than £300. You can buy brand new chinkphones for £200. Where are you getting $500 from?
>>2130744Arinsu's animations are good thoughbeit
>>2130416>>2130414>diamond background slopSkip
>>2130414>duu and kuu supportit's coming
>>2130414>>2130416Something interesting to note is Anrisu and Pansy's team cost.If they were a DFE, their cost would be 58. If they were a Peppy Gals unit, it'd be 18. Instead, they're both at 40, which lines up with most banner units despite having a 220% Leader Skill.That's a pretty unusual combination, and I'm curious what the reasoning is behind this sudden change.
>>2130821I'm not buying an entirely new phone just to play Dokkan lol
>>2130795There is something to say about how Dokkan is like twice as big as Legends, though. Why is that the case, and why haven't they done anything to fix it?
>>2130870what phone are you using now that you have to worry about storage space?? phones have had hundreds of gigs for over a decade lmao
>>2130873Samsung Galaxy S24 FE. I have the 128gb model. Also, you do know there are other games and apps besides Dokkan, right?
>>2130854Super is coming out probably October isn’t it? We might actually get a tag unit of them for October dfe then super remake stuff for November
>>2130875You can fit ~4 Dokkan size games easy in that then. I personally don’t know how anyone can stand keeping up to date on more than one gacha though
remember when phones comes with SD card slots and you can just shove a 2tb card into it and don't have to worry about file size?
>>2130880I only "play" Dokkan to collect. My main gacha is actually Fire Emblem Heroes. I've just been collecting on Dokkan since STR Super Gogeta so it's hard to let go of my account.
>>2130881The phone companies specifically removed the SD card slot so you'd HAVE to buy the larger storage size model. It's one of the scummiest things they've done.
>>2130826They are not besides I guess the intro. The 11 ki has bad source material despite being adapted well and the 12 ki is mostly still frames.
>>2130871Dokkan as a game comprised entirely of flash assets and video files with 9 years of buildup will obviously take up more space than rigged model swap Legends.
>>2130898lol
they just need to eza android 21 soon
>>2130943What's Gomah doing here?
>>2130877They basically dumped all of kuu's source material on arinsu so I doubt it.
>>2130976It’s weird they cut kuus SA before the mouth beam and arinsu smiling
>>2130854>>2130877yeah, they feel like a tag releasing october or november
>>2130946hehe don't worry about it bro...
>>2130774>top 17 has battle of wits>top 18 has battle of wits>so of course top 17 and 18 don't have battle of wits bravo akatsuki
>>2131176Goku being in their Unit Super Attack evened their IQ
oh boy>15% dodge (>50%)>buffs both of them>slot 0 stunat least it's a 6 teq mission for mc and dabura to rape.
>7beastbros...
>additionals trigger her 11ki and its passive effectsOh right. Shit.
>>2131707>EX Daimaku damage with guaranteed crits>70% chance to dodge AoEs>additionals trigger 30% dodge chance>basically invincible defence wise anyway I know she has team restrictions and no categories and stuff but in a vacuum is she the best unit in the game?
Just remembered that glinds technically don't have genders, they just look male or female, so that's why she's not on peppy gals.
>>2131714Is peppy gals not just things roshi wants to fuck
>>2131715Did he want to fuck Ribrianne
>filler dfe mogs the upcoming LR again
>>2131723>dfe*banner unit
>>2131733Only if she's added to the general pool and there's no way. Unit cost is a meme.
Arinsu is like a eza LR SS4 Daima Goku lmao. The GDC LRs all better be throwing out multiple 100m SAs at 55%, if we get another water pistol like the tag SS4s after this I’ll be mad
>>2131763>if we get another water pistol like the tag SS4s after this I’ll be madfunny you should mention this because both cards from that banner does the same shit>do water pistol damage until you switch in/and use their activeIMO ui was actually the worse card because it's only good for 2 turns of invincibility and easy 220 leader for realm of gods, SSJ4 duo at least becomes a consistent tank if you slot in a rainbow orb enabler like TEQ panat any rate both of those units are hugely overrated and unironically the two daipa card released before them that everyone loves to shit on are actually the better cards
if this isn't proof that the rates are rigged...
>>2131873Yeah Daima Goku was by and far the most useful character from the anni. I personally don’t like the ToP tags either but if I don’t have to run the SS4s, I don’t. Such a dogshit unit, I’m not bringing a rainbow orb changer so vegeta can throw 14m attacks about for 50 turns then goku can do good damage for one.
>>2131995retard
>>2132002SS4s were worse than tag Goku/Frieza
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hbQ7ArG_HS4Can attack break twice. Looks good, was worried she would be doing awful damage and the SA skip flows well.
>>2131749Unit cost is a universal marker. >>2132012not him but retard
>We heard you weren't rolling for Daima DFEs and wanted you to beat the missions
Big 4kuMini 4kuMini 3kuSTR PanzyArinsuGomahThis is the team.
>>2132026dodge or daipa thoI already have had enough of this shit in realm of gods team
>>2132104Not really, she has can tank 15m and only has one dodge. It’s more pray there isn’t 3 attacks in slots two/three and hope she attack breaks the super.>>2132101You need 3 extreme for arinsu and 2 mission execution/siblings bond. Probably better running cowgirl 18 instead of one of the minis.
>>2131873You act like UI is guaranteed to die outside his invul turns. Teq pan is likelier to get you killed. He's the only anni that doesn't struggle with literally any boss on any team comp, and he's the hardest to run as a friend compared to having your own so he's the most valuable to have.
>>2132101>don't have>don't have>don't have>shitty bait banner>shitty bait bannerGame really doesn't want me to run Daima.
this entire month is lost
Unless there's a summer bait banner with Teq Metal Cooler, don't summon until GDC
>>2132051Banner exclusivity is a universal marker.
>>2132131>You act like UI is guaranteed to die outside his invul turns*dodged a normal**dodged a normal**facetanked a super - 1hp**dodged everything after that or he takes 1 normal/the guy after him takes 1 normal and dies*many such casesI usually just switch into vegeta after ui's guaranteed dodge turn because at least vegeta has decent def/DR and actually does damage.
>>2132139brother we're skipping gsc and summoning NOWthese bitches wont be featured on a banner until next YEAR
>>2132146Vegeta does less damage outside his active turn especially without goku's stack, and doesn't support.
I dunno why they bothered giving UI that stupid KO mechanic. I don’t think I’ve ever benefited from it
Have they abandoned SEZA's yet like with every other gimmick cause I cant remember the last time a unit got one
>>2132162Phy cooler
>>2132140Yeah, we call them Dokkan Fests (58/77 cost) and Carnivals (77 cost).
>>2132169We call them banner units when they're pullable on every banner.
>>2132170And 99% of them share 40 cost.
>>2132171>99%So it's even less relevant than I thought.
>>2132172The only exceptions are from the first 2-3 years of the game, and every 40 cost unit is in the general pool or outright free except Heroes for obvious reasons. Will you try to compare girly banner units to Heroes next?
>>2132175No because cost is irrelevant. Banner exclusivity matters.
>>2132176Again, cost is directly connected to banner exclusivity. We have a decade of evidence to that end.
>>2132177You literally just proved my point with heroes, they're 40 cost but clearly not banner units.
>>2132179>No I won't falsely equate this to Heroes.>Wait nvm I will after all.
>>2132180You're the one who made the comparison which contradicted your own point. I only go by exclusivity. Then you said cost = exclusivity which is patently wrong.
>>2132184>doubling down on all frontsJust admit when you've played yourself.
>>2132189>doubling down on being correctYes, I am. You can't even explain how I'm wrong.
It would be unprecedented if these two didn't go in the general pool when every single other duo has since these banners existed.
>>2132190I would but if you can't even admit you contradicted yourself within 3 minutes, there's no point. You're just going to keep bullshitting to save face no matter how wrong you are.
>>2132180It makes me happy that my meme is still alive to this day.
>>2132194I wasn't gonna compare them because, for the 10th time, I go by exclusivity. Heroes are exclusive to heroes, they didn't even rerun on crossover. We don't know where these will rerun, but if they're not in the general pool they're not banner units. Then you made it strictly about points so of course I'll point out your contradiction.
>>2132197It has been strictly about cost since you or whoever called it a meme. You wanted to pretend it's irrelevant with no rationale whatsoever and now that it hasn't worked out, you're reaching for a retarded gotcha comparing a video game crossover to characters straight out of the anime. Give it a rest.
>>2132202"It" being their exclusivity, which it has no bearing on.>comparing a video game crossover to characters straight out of the animeWhich also has zero bearing on whether they're banner units.
>>2132203>nope doesn't matter and I will not attempt to justify this claim
>>2132162they'll drop 5+ next month
>>2132206>I will ignore the justification and claim it's not there>who cares about unit availability, cost is everything
>>2132210You literally have not given one. Screeching "unit availability" as if the phrase in itself means anything is not a justification.
I’m 70/30 on they’ll make them returning featured vs them going into general pool. Only thing I 100% know is they won’t tell us
>>2132213>the ability to obtain the unit doesn't mean anything in a gachaOkay retard
>>2132216That's the issue in contention, not an argument retardbro.
>>2132217Yes the issue is whether she'll be in the general pool. What the fuck does cost have to do with anything
>>2132219>Yes the issue is whether she'll be in the general pool.Good we've established that. Next is for you to justify your claim that cost is irrelevant.
>>2132221You haven't explained how it's relevant. You contradicted your own point with heroes. But apparently you did that to attempt an even more retarded gotcha about canon vs noncanon, which is even more irrelevant to banner unit status.
>>2132225I have explained and I have explained why Heroes doesn't matter, which you also denied without justification.>about canon vs noncanonNo retardbro, it's about how Dokkan has handled collaboration campaigns. They are exclusive only in the rare case it's explicitly stated, like Heroes. The girly banner has nothing in common with it.
>>2132231>blah blah blah collaborationAgain, not relevant to whether they're banner units. Neither is cost. Saying>they're 40 cost so they'll be in the general poolis a reasonable prediction, but saying>even if they're not in general pool they're banner units because they're 40 costis pure retardation with zero relevance to their gacha classification.
>>2132236>>even if they're not in general pool they're banner units because they're 40 costNo one was saying that. Have you been just been fixated on the label this whole time?
>>2132237I'm fixated on their availability, and cost alone doesn't determine that.
>>2132238It's a perfect indicator. We don't even get 40 cost units that aren't in the general pool anymore.
>>2132239We also don't get 40 cost units with dfe leader skills.
>>2132241We have gotten 3 42 cost units with DFE leader skills back when all banner units were given that much. Then you have to add in that all releases in this slot go in the general pool.
>>2132243I said 40 cost but I meant general pool units. Dfes being 42 before is even more proof that cost is meaningless.
>>2132246No, 3 banner units with DFE leader skills from the era of 58 cost DFEs and 42 cost banner units.
These will be in the general pool.Why are we schizoing out?
c-content...?
>>2132280I still need to do super and extreme clears of gomah. Got the hard part out of the way with the 4 turn, now I can run meta teams and use whis to survive two reps of his giga phases
>>2132280TONIGHT
>>2132305ON UNSOLVED MYSTERIES
>he thinks units with page long passives are going in the general pool
>>2132370
>>2132370all the new recent ones have long passives like piccolo and king cold
If we're still on this subject, they awaken with the Peppy Gals medals, they're obviously just the annual Peppy Gals banner units and their cost is because of their pseudo-DFE Leader Skills.
>>2132392this is literally comfirmation
it's confirmation that they're not dfes (obvious) but not that they're in the general pool
>>2132392>Peppy Gal medals to awaken>released with Peppy Gals EZAs during a Peppy Gals bit of a celebration>neither her or Arinsu are on Peppy Gals
>>2132398its consistent with the f2p Panzy and the other Kais/Glinds
>>2132380okay but he's mid
the only way guppy will change it is if jp cunny and hag enjoyers join forces and uoh hard enough
>>2132405Saibaimen can clear RE stages.
>>2132405Goalposts? Moved.>>2132427Anon? Based and Saibapilled.
my 90 stones are ready!
popo my beloved...
>be the lucklet who hasn't pulled anything this year in 4000 stones>tfwThe curse is finally lifted...
where is android 13 lr
Two SSJ3 Minis or Two SSJ4 Daipas for Daipa leader?
>>2132484two arinsu
400 wasted. Also a fail of a carnival summon ticket. Got evil android 21 two times, android 18 3 times, carnival tick was gomah. I don't have any of the LRs on the Pic so was hoping for one of those at least. Did 3 on the other banner and got more dupes but did get the new ss3 mini Goku. Only have 350 stones leftward and was really wanting the new girls.
I guess I have to coin str daipa now since I pulled her...
>>2132495>400bro
I actually kinda want to pull now that I've seen the showcases. Are the 90 stones really worth it?
>>2132502It's blue coins so you'll never use them. She seems a lot less impressive at 55%.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Kh3mbrUVJI
>>2132501I still have like 350. That's plenty till I pull again for heores next year
>heroes
>>2132502She really needs dupesYou get 21 tickets from doing popo event so spend those and wait for the Android 21 and Evil 21EZAs before going all in on her team
>>2132503>casual 35-40 million atk stats>Arinsu still close to 100 million atk statThat still looks really good.>>2132506Cool, I thought it was just 7 like usual. >Android 21 and Evil 21EZAsThat's confirmed?
Teq mission>>2132474Nice, I rainbowed cowgirl 18 off the tickets
>>2132508Compared to 100mil x 5 and getting both 12 and 11 ki passives, she's a lot worse. She even sells in the end.
>>2132508The main reason Arinsu needs dupes is she needs her add hipo and equips maxed out. She’s pretty meh if you aren’t rolling the nuke dice
>>2132511>>2132513The crazy thing is that her "meh" honestly isn't that far from Gomah himself. Who would expect a banner unit to approach 100 million attack with a crit?But I got them both and I didn't have Videl so I guess it's moot. I guess the question now is do I pull for a dupe to get the nuke turn?
Seeing people summon on a banner unit banner before gdc is crazy
>>2132474>really don't wanna buy daimaku>was saving my scouter points but fuck it>do 1 multi for a third ticket, panzy dupe>3 bejitas>now if I buy daima I can skip the november scam bannerToday has been something
>>2132534and btw you only have an hour to buy the annis before they leave the shop
>>2132537Why the fuck are they still available on Global and not JP?
>>2132529With discounts? Absolutely.I did my 90 stones and got 90 summon points.Turles spooked me in there.Tickets gave me 2 pansies and the worst banner unit ever released is now at 90% too.
>>2132541>TurlesI summon.
>>2132540truth... don't look...
>>2132529I did the discount pulls and got Pansy so I am happy.
>>2132541>>21325432 ARINSU DUPES THANK YOU ANON
>>2132547No prob glad to help your gambling addiction.
Do I give him the kino equip?
>>2132550yea. he wants that extra def
I have yet to get the AGL duo to turn 5/morale boosted.Does the unit actually do numbers then or what? Have no new leader for them so I just haven't used them or birdku.
>>2132573about double the base form so no. don't use the turn 7 boost on their active either for some reason the damage is ass
>>2132573They can do like 70-80m then a couple of 40-50m additionals on their active turn. Their damage is still dogshit outside when morale boosted
>>2132582>>2132579So we just made a worse STR Cooler that takes way more time to get strong while being slightly more stable defensively? Bleh.
>no we cannot put anything in the blue coin section of the shop :^)
>>2132586>will never get the 3 type leads I'm missing
>5 incredible gems from conversion... what didn't I spend? Fuck.
>>2132583They’re not really similar to cooler at all. They’re a unit that lives or dies by their conditional damage reductions and typically die outside that, I guess you could say it’s a Teq pan like but they don’t have any utility so they’re just a dogshit eza
>>2132607There's nothing really conditional, but they do just seem to be a really dull slot 2/3. I guess I just expected more with Birdku and the two coolers seeming like insane glowups, while these guys were the worst of the original releases.
>>2132611Eh, Birdku is overrated too at least without dupes.
>>2132615I'm working with 3 dupe birdku and everyone else rainbow, hence my surprise when turn 1 birdku is doing like double the attack of the duo.
of course the fucking nonbinary gals pulls didn't give me SHIT
>mommy first discount multiShame none of my characters will ever be allowed to touch her since they got lazy with the sprites and you just fight kuu and duu
>pulled Panzy 6 fucking timesJUST GIVE ME ARINSU
>>2132611I guess conditional is the wrong way to put it but the only good thing I feel they have is they can survive a surprising amount of dmg in with the 4 turn 90%, they can survive on their first morale boost turn BUT you never really want to run them slot one since other characters want hit, early damage reduction is honestly niche use but it’s ok for movie zeroes and their morale boost is awkward to plan around.The whole character is centered around that 90% damage reduction but it feels like never really get much from it due to their typically shit damage. They could’ve easily fixed the character by giving them more SoT damage and def stacking
I took this screenshot because I fucking knew what was going to happen next.Fuck this cock sucking nigger lover game.
>doing missions I haven’t done>master evolution vs rage vegeta>use str ui>has dodged 2/8 attacksThis character is coded wrong, I know this character is not coded with fucking 77% dodge or whatever, this shit always happens with him specifically, I’m certain he has 30% dodge
>>2132932>half an hp barWouldn't happen if you ran double str cooler instead of dogly
getting 30 summon points for 30 stones is awesome
>>2132967How is anon going to run 2 cell max and 2 str cooler in this hypothetical setup, anon?
>>2133178>2 cell maxYou run friend str cooler
>>2133188Then what does that have to do with dogly?
>>2133191You ignore dogly's stacking and focus on the two coolers. He's just filler.
>>2133194I see you are missing my point so I'll take my leave.
>>2133196Yes anon if you run double cooler you also drop a cell max, I didn't know you need me to state the obvious. You also don't need shitly in that setup because he does nothing, but you can bring him if you want.
What's the Arinsu team looking like?
>>2133203not great...
>got the last dupe needed to rainbow str 18 off ticketswow im actually gonna use an eza at the intended level this time!
What's a good team for the extreme FoB mission now? I'm assuming just coolers
>>2133349you need an extreme int too. amond & rasin have 90-100% dr with whis so they should be fine. or lr broly, or babidi standby. hirudegarn can stack in theory but i dont think he gets the chance with cooler.
>>2133349Double Cooler + Gomah. Cooler can survive slot 1 up to turn 45, after that gomah + ghost usher will cover the final 5 turns. Fill the rest of the team with supports and domains. I used the agl tag saiyans to avoid resetting for crits against agl gogeta. Just make sure gomah starts on turn 2 so hes lined up for the daima phase.
>>2133370I would like to add to your post and say that if manga Frieza also starts on turn 2 and floats every turn, he'll get his Entrance Animation against INT Nameku and he'll support the whole team.
>Union Master gives 200 stones>Seriously Serious gives 80 stones>IDBH gives 1000 stonesThis is why I stopped doing mid level content. It's nice to have a reserve.
Daima story refresh, 20 stones in the shop
Any suggestions on the last floater? Needs to be turtle school for my meme.
>>2133668Kaiku, tag UI, Daimaku,
Dabura's active theme has been playing inside my head for like a weeksend help
>>2133714>carried my max score burst mode run
>spending stamina on burst mode while popo event is liveshiggy
Nearly caught up with every mission and up to 1375 stones. Only one I can’t get is the vegeta family mission for the ss3 goku fight.
>>2134338what vegetas are you missing
>>2134341Daimageta, Majin buu tags, Vegeta/Nappa tag, that Hero’s vegeta and that banner unit trunks. Basically just the ones from this year. I should eza that Xeno trunks looking at it
>>2134371I did have tag mv but you can probably use ss4. Int mv gets his full passive because it's a buu saga enemy. Without items I needed a good turn from teq daima but with whis it should be easier.
>>2134396I had INT MV die to a normal slot 0 vs the second phase so that’s why I stopped. Will give it another go with that team
The only new units I've gotten this year were off free tickets.
IT'S UPhttps://x.com/dokkan_global/status/2085923960647000190
>>2134734
>>2134734OUR HEARTS TOGETHERDOKKAN BATTLE
EXTRAORDINARY CAMPAIGNS
https://x.com/dokkan_global/status/2085939057792586186
>>2134751>this shit againthey already know stackredditors will pick max length no gimmicks rainbow mission.
>>2134751oh boy I can't wait for another 50+ minute battle where the boss will randomly decide to one shot you at the last moment all for maybe ten stones!
>>2134751Grim
>>2134761>7 phases losinggenuinely surprised
>>2134734>no goofy JP adsoulless>>2134751Why is anyone pretending these choices matter as if the stage won't be a joke like last time?
>>21347637 phrases is winning on JP's end but not by too much.
>>2134779It was a joke because people picked the easiest options.
>>2134782The raw stats were undercooked.
>A Large-scale CampaignPart 1 NamekPart 2 Cell SagaPart 3 Buu Saga
If it really is a 3 part campaign, we can expect one gifted unit like 10th anni
I feel like there is a WT soon
>>2134854Reminder last DLC was a 3 part campaign.
arinsu, panji and the 2 EZAs are actually pretty gooda shame peppy gals is still a dead category.
I’m down to 200 kais
>>2134736namekfags are hallucinating
>>2134739dead monthdead threaddead game
>go into event stage>slot 0 super, business as usual>manage to dodge, do a super>2 or 3 pixels of damage done to the boss health bar 1 out of 12when was the last time you enjoyed this game? I dont think i've had any fun in the last 3 years
>>2135349Arinsu is fun right now. Metal Cooler and Majin Vegeta were fun for a while too. My only disappointment is Nappageta not being good enough to run a Saiyan arc team with.
All done with the missions. Time to link level I guess
>>2134739>campaigns >pluralsounds like a bad thing
>>2135349The new metal cooler team with full ezas is fun, but endgame hasn't been fun since 7th anni.So... guess that's 4 years, roughly, given global shenanigans.
>>2135349I am enjoying myself with the new teams that were made relevant again thanks to recent EZAs like saiyan sagait's just that there's very little content where you can play them in a manner where it actually feels like you are pushing them to their limits instead of it being either a breeze or you get instantly KO'd
>hey bro just beat gomah in 4 turns without items>btw he's got 2 phases, a total of 1.4 billion HP combined, oh and he also heals every turn and like 70% DRi'm so glad they replaced double EZA stones to put them behind these nigger tier time limited missions
>>2136148It isn’t hard though. You barely need any daima units, I think I’ve actually seen someone f2p it
My Mini Supreme Kai has sold way too many runs by dying to a slot 0 attack for someone who allegedly has an 85% chance to dodge before attacking.
>>2136197Maybe it’s actually split into 50% then a 35% chance. I get that feeling with a lot of these units that have broken up dodge chances
>try to do Seriously Serious Battle of Wits when the stage drops>fail hard>pull Arinsu and Panzy>Arinsu obliterates the enemy Panzy with 3 100+ mil supers
How do I do the tree of might goku fight without items? I tried running Dabura's team but he refuses to dodge.
>>2136310Float Metal Coolers and stuff the team with giants or make a Majin Vegeta team out of dodgers.
>>2136310Dodging and blitzing
>no peppy gals sezas for 2 years minimum
>>2136148Just 1 turn phase 1 and line up str and teq daimaku together on turn 4.
eza never
>>2136362Could wait for the super remake to hit ToP desu, would be annoying if they eza him now or alongside a ff Frieza since no bbb
SOON
>>2136362Good. I still don't have him.
>>2136390puddlehan deserves a God tier EZA
>>2136390futurehan <3
>>2136390I mean sure, 11 months is soon at the cosmic scale so I guess you're not wrong.
>>2136390>bunch of goyslop and str kinohan
>>2136390Yup yup 6 kino units but you forgot str rose seza
redpill me on dokkan day and what to do then for max utilization
>>2137294Hype Ebonics Rhyme Chamber and nothing but.Drop meat to keep leveling up and running it.And spend enough for dailies/roshi milks, as well.
>playing on jp for 5 years after i got banned for botting on global durning some bitch nigger race no one gave a fuck>still didint learn a single bit japanese because its all in moon runes>still no translation option or option to transfer to globalfeels weird man but what can i do
>>21372945x the chances to farm a god equip
sezas when
>>2137327they've changed the format for major campaign ezas this year and it seems the devs have settled on a new formula. anni ezas during anni, gdc ezas during tanabata, tanabata ezas during gdc.I wouldn't be surprised if they also plan to do anni sezas for gdc going forward since it's an anni equivalent campaign and just doing tanabata ezas leaves a lot to be desired.>tldr: probably in a month
>>2137339I was excited because the game's backlog is so huge that I figured EZAs would be pumped out at light speed, especially when 2nd anni sezas dropped 6 months after 1st annis.And then we had the worst anni ever for 11th, so who fucking knows.>worst everIn regards to the quality of the previous anni, yeah, it's no contest.
>>2137305It is the exact same experience. If you get tired of looking up every single passive, learn some of the runes you see a lot. It'll be the same ones that denote crits, dodges, ki, etc. every time. >>2137310You just mean by stamina count, right? I haven't heard a thing about the rates being boosted since the last update.
>>2137327soon
I will not play squadra for stones
You just have to fill out the survey on bandai id and it tells you the most popular choices so you don't have to keep up with assfaggot ecelebs
>>2127098ITS UP
>>2137643>kid buu medalslmao I mean I guess.
>>2137643>>2137645They seem good minus the Peppy Gals lead not getting buffed to 200%. Maybe Arinsu's team will clear everything now.>>2137650That's fucked if they're not getting their own EZB.
>>2137643Am I wrong or is her base form like much better than her transformed?>>2137645>one turn 63% dmg reductionI dunno they seem like battlefield units. Maybe AGL 21 might be better than mamba
>>2137593I’m a bit confused by the votes since one vote is who will be banned and the most popular selection is SSG Goku but then he’s the most popular character on like 90% of the other votes.Also I picked jp Dokkan as the last option since I assume the japs actually play squadron
>>2137643They should’ve made it so her base form gains def for 21 turns then her transformed form gains atk for 21 turns. They also should’ve gave her transformed form the 70% dodge or guard
>>2137657Base is good for 2 appearances. Then you choose between staying for dodge chance or transforming for stats. It's a skill check unit.
>>2137643>stacked stats but low DRso tired of thisas least peppy gals are getting something I guess
>>2137645loved this unit when it first came outglad it got a good eza
>>2137643>>213764521sisters... We should have eza'd AFTER the WWC powercreep...
>>2137667Wonder if the attack boosts are gonna be significant enough to justify transforming early. Having 70% dodge just seems better than guaranteed dying to supers and probably taking damage from normals
>>2137643>>2137645YUP. LR Kid Buu confirmed with guard for demonic power allies & 10% damage reduction for those who are also under majin power. I hath spoken.
>>2137720Big time demonic power units already have guard
>>2137643>>2137645BeholdThe first potential lowercase EZA cards in a while
>>2137643Oh shit they're actually just cancelling ezb's entirely and stuffing actual dfe's into old ones now. Yeah pack it up game's entering the pump before the dump phase of gacha.
>>2137850Might be due to licensing of 21. Which sounds silly but whatevs
>>2137717Transformed is basically guaranteed to have much better DR from turn 5, gets more defense on SA, has guaranteed additionals which is rare even in itself, has an extra 210% def in her passive, and gets BBB. It's going to be a huge difference.
>>2137921All I’m hearing is dying to supers. 70% dodge is better, transformed is a finisher
>agl with 70% critYep full dodge
What Would You Like to See in the 7th Anniversary?
>>2137948She's at 8 million defense on next to her phy counterpart, 9 with god equips. She's going to tank most supers.
>>2138083A year ago lmao
>>2138102Now. That's good enough for 15 million same class supers. You could probably count the number of bosses that reach higher with 1 hand.
We all know 12th anni will be stand alone Blue Gogeta, Blue Vegito, Full Power SS Broly and the last one is a bit up in the air but will probably be LR Merged Zamasu (corrupted) with that name instead of the dumb shit they pulled for the Teq ones
>>2138108Daima GokuMultiple Cell Max bosses Gamma 2Turn 3 tree of might Gokus 1st and Second phase I’m basically going through every boss since GDC last year, what events are you doing
>>2138132Yeah, we’re gonna hear some dumb shit like GT cope once again. The eza’s and seza to the 2nd years make it a sure thing since there is like nothing else you can do with future or the broly movie
>>2138143RE Cell Max and Tree of Might Goku can have their attack lowered and the former is vulnerable to domains. And both Gokus can only reach that much atk if you go too slow. Even if I did count them, that's only 4, not even half the RE stages.
>>2138058Maybe a dual unit with SSJ4 goku and vegeta, and a unit with god goku/vegeta. And the theme could be around dual fusions, and they could add in a 200% leader skill as well, but it would be 170 + 30% on specific categories to balance it out and encourage teambuilding. Sure would suck if they just did straight up 200% leader skills after that though
>bought two blue tickets>2 teq turles Genuinely thinking of quitting this game
>>2138206>woe is me I got two of a top 5 unit in the gameDo quit bitch
quit complaining about stones chuds!https://youtu.be/uiiUvGRfwaI
>>2138058maybe really hard content that wipes out 90% of my box?
>>2137643>>2137645>!1I hate it here
>>2138215You’re retarded, they’re not gonna hold back stones. The joined eza stuff is worth complaining about but this clearly is going to be a one off
>>2138215what do you expect for the #1 boot licker?
>>2138132Anni doesn't do vs like gdc does, with the exception of broly and janemba. If it's fusions then we're getting blue fusions and yellow fusions.
>>2138206>2 of the best unit on the bannerI could only see a negative if you already have him in which case why would you buy blue tickets
Is there a list of units that NEVER sell? I'm trying to clear some hard content and there are a lot of frauds out there.
>>2138244Kaiku, teq and phy mc, z duo, int beerus... you still have to bring merchants and gamble with crits and additionals.
>>2138238EZAs will be SS Gogeta, SS Broly, Beast and Gammas.SEZAs will be Phy Gogeta and Int Vegito.Blue Gogeta and Full Power Broly are locked in. Blue Vegito feels 60%, then you’d say the last spot is 50% but I think it will be future since we have the future ezas coming later in the week. I think Merged Zamasu (corrupted), Merged Zamasu army, just Zamasu or Rage Trunks. I think some form of Zamasu is most likely since super bosses will most likely be going through a thing with the super remake but they could do a SS rage trunks which would also link well with Broly.>>2138244Pansy
>>2138250The 5th years only had z duo as a partial lead when they eza'd. One blue fusion will lead all the super hero ezas and broly will have a pure saiyan, ss or pbss lead. They don't do anni rosters strictly around the ezas and certainly not the opponents, they didn't even do cell max even though it would be more hype than gammas.
>>2138223Just like the joined EZAs were only gonna be goku and vegeta.Remember the first one (or few) gave 40 stones and then they stopped that.
>>2138223>they’re not gonna hold back stoneswhat a cope lmao
I still don't think we're losing stones but that probably only applies to active players. Those who don't play daily will lose out on time-limited stones that replace the EZB ones.
As has been said before, I'm sure the total stones are similar or greater than before.They just add them in funky ways where before we would have just gotten 120 stones from ezas this celebration for 3 normal ezas and a peppy gal eza.It is a monkey's paw in a way, I expected the peppy gals to just use medals from an older fight with how they've been, but they just did that with 21 instead.Also, sure this is a me problem, but I can't even tell if a card is good anymore by reading it.Stats have ballooned so much that a unit can have 70% DR and get one shot. Picrel.
>>2138273This. Geppy went out of his way to give us the metal cooler stones so it's not stinginess against active players, it's putting less permanent stones in the reserve pool which already has like 15,000 stones.
>>2138273you know they can do both right?
>>2138215They're funding his next trip to LA for free and throwing in the buffet if he defends their greed
I just saw the truth meltdown wtf did you guys do??
reminder that gdc is in less than 20 days
>>2138322Diabetic rage
with the quickly diminishing stone income I see zero reason to pull on gdc when they'll rerun on the far superior anniversary banners in a mere four and a half months time. especially as I'm sitting on too many carnival and dfe coins as is. log in, do dailies over breakfast, log out and go play the new fire emblem and tits second chapter. that'll be my gdc experience.
>>2138412They haven't reduced stone income at all, they put them in different places with a higher ratio of missable stones.
>>2138293Well yes they can give extra stones compared to previous years, I just don't think they would.
30 stones!
5 stones for new RE missions
>>2138508there better be missions to expedite the actual eza medal grind, shant be bothering otherwise.
Oh shit. I just link leveled him. His kit might even be usable.
>>2138508We ALL owe Geppy an apology. Right now.
>>2134858nostradamus over here
>>2138510There's 11 more for the blue zone missions
>>2138535there are
>>2138508thank god
How good is 21?
>>2138566>literally all the stones and the medals can be gained from doing 1 to 2 runs totalling at four to five minutes of grinding in allyou know what I think I like this newer format more. thx for the info
>two exclamation pointsN-No...
>>2138613She did okay, can't complain.
This is post-EZA
>>2138613One for each tit
>>2138621nigga
>>2138621it jumps to 30m+ after she receives an attack
>>2138627>30m+middest of mid
I've seen enough. Arinsu rapes her.
This unit exists for the return to combat that last an eternity.Raising attack for 21 turns is effectively infinite stacking outside festival.
>>2138627Cowgirl 21 gets to 60-70m after one dodge/hit and has a far better support.>>2138633Pictures of this?
why couldnt she stack def for 21 turns too...
AGL Bojack EZA when
Truth wins againhttps://youtu.be/uvl3qGpgkuE?is=Fh9omKUXcv9BQmQ5
>Both EZAs are !! eachActual Peppy Gals units can't catch a break
>>2138642>Cowgirl 21Where?
>>2138854when they drop a new LR boujack
>>2138894They took from us the title from getting to level 77HE LOST
why she is so trash
>>2138215stopped watching this dude over a year agohe's so far gone it's barely funny anymore
at least it's uppercase...
CONTENT TONIGHT
Wait does that mean its wt time?
>>2139432tomorrow
GDC about to powercreep everything hard
>>2139413He's long hair Trunks but with double damage and can tank some normals.
>>2139621double 0 is still 0
>>2139682What, long hair Trunks was really good for a tournament unit. I got a lot of use out of him under double Future Gohan.
>str daimaku one shots eza kid buu so you can complete all the eza missions in 30 secondshell yeah
>new red zone missions>1 stone to clear shit like treeku that one shots even the units that came out for his celebrationYeah you can keep them.
>android missionAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEE
>>2139777Honestly could have avoided using Whis but I didn't trust the lr gammas.
>rog mission>u7 mission>rainbow vs treekutag ui doing a lotta legwork rn. probably gonna run him on ebf mission too.
>>2139777>no NY tags>no 17>no 16>no agl cell max>agl 21 at 55%I’ll give it a try with 21 but I’m thinking they can keep that stone
>>2139799your phy mira?
>>2139763>clear daima goku first shot having never run it before>6 space travelling warriorHoly hell this category has no PHY units.Rainbow Raditz takes 6 digit normals with type advantage.55% Turles takes 6 digit normals after 1 turn.What do you even run?
>>2139804raditz needs vegeta on the team for def so you'd have to bring agl nappageta. but anyway you don't have to do rainbow and category together. teq raditz is really solid for this fight.
>>2139800I have him. Was gonna go AGL 21-PHY21 - Gamma 1 - Gamma 2 - Mira - Cowgirl 21
Guess that worked, new 21s are pretty dogshit though
>job over and over with generic earthbred saiyan team>orb torture with tag gt, daima rng failing to burst the last phase, even the rainbow daima friend eating shit in slot 2>meanwhileYeah there's no doubt in my mind anymore, UI is 100% the best anni unit.
>>2139991Took a similar team, PHY UI took 1 super so I was at 1% and died with the anchor taking a triple digit normal.Pain and suffering.
HEEEEEELPPPPPPPP
>>2140217Dokkan Day is on the 15th, it's the 14th in Japan right now.
>treeku missionI just love getting raped by aoe supers
What's the best world tournament team now? I must have lost my set up
>>2140577still piccolo jr + whatever. forever.
>>2140577
>>2140598switch some of those shitters out for gomah and raditz
>>2140610no, i don't think I will
still the worst eza of nudokkan
>>2140577dunno what the best one is but last time I bothered to tryhard wt and ran>gomah>omega chadron>treeku>pickle jr>chaditz>str futurehanand casually swatted a couple of other tryhards to take 1st place in local with it after being mega lazy for day 1.>'but they're not all on gomah's leaderskillgame's so powercrept they fold everything effortlessly regardless and team cost plus base hp is what matters for scoring as far as I'm aware. as long as my and the support pickle jr is getting 200% nothing else matters.
Done all the bluezones but treeku, gonna move on to the red zones.I'll see how I feel about the CBT that is the treeku mission later.
Alright geppy bring on the next sloptent
>>2140794They aren't even THAT bad. The reaction was overblown.
>>2140827It's bad.>>2141012They're SA fodder and have no tech to avoid them.
WT time...
>>2141092... in 90 minutes
>CoEB getting a renewaltook fucking long enough and pretty much confirms a Z GDC
>>2141045Yeah I have this team but I'm running my own 55% turles instead and it's just gotten folded every run.I've cleared every other mission combined faster than the time I've put into this one.Gonna assume Treeku was just freakishly overtuned and keep at it, I guess.
>>2141130You need to have exactly the right rotations and luck. Raisin and Amond outside turn 2 is a reset. No slot 1 for turn 3 is a reset.
nigger am I tweaking or is there a skip for this garbage? why the fuck do I need to click 20 times I don't give a fuck that the unit has a little buff every turn
>>2141130I managed with this.>phase 1 turn 3 nappa takes 600k in slot 0 which gives him 100% dr and lets me delay whis>vegeta active, take 20k from the aoe under whis, buffed raditz deals 70m crits ×3>teq mc rapesAgl shitza has to be slot 1 in phase 2 but at least he links up with cooler.
>>2141135Yeah was on the line for the first time in multiple dozens of attempts and then the agl banner unit didn't dodge the aoe super so I took 3.2 million through a whis.>>2141138I might shift to something like this and give up on doing a rainbow clear with this team. It feels wild that I have every unit that came out for this celebration yet this is still the hardest fight of all of them.
>>2141144Kinda defeats the purpose of overlapping 2 missions when it takes 20x longer
>WTmeh. i'll do my 30 mil run tomorrow
>>2141137there isn't and i hate it
>>2141146I've just never cleared Treeku before so I want to get both the limited time missions done then wait for more powercreep so it's actually enjoyable.I also hadn't done Cell Max or Daima before this event.
your beerus?
>>2141157Same place as my NY tags, next month. Looking at what the banners will be, it’s easy to skip the carnivals for GDC this year and pity one of them if the headliner is good
What's the best leader/team for WT?I'm using Gomah with Piccolo Jr + Saiyan Saga AoE.
>>2141328Majeta + Goku has a lot of HP and leads Piccolo Jr.
last night i had a dream that dokkan tweeted out mienshao was getting a super eza
>>2141328I still got double wt piccolo, 3 aoe vegetas, lr Ginyu and gomah. I have seen wt piccolo in the first rotation about 5/40 runs
Part one: DFE FF Frieza vs Carnival Kaioken GokuPart two: DFE Bye Guys SS Goku/SS2 Gohan tag vs Carnival Perfect CellPart three: DFE LR Kid BuuNew mechanic: Something like cumulative team damage or hits taken powering up characters like zenkai boosts for Kaioken Goku and “enjoyment” for kid buu
>>2141597>Carnival Kaioken GokuI feel like they could do a standy Genkidama into Super Saiyan.
>>2141679Kindly, fuck off.I want a real kaioken times 20 goku.I'm still mad INT Tree of Might Goku is so ASS.
The WT HP thing is a meme btw. I posted about it originally when the futurehan meme started circulating and it "works" but it doesn't matter. I tested both high HP and crits to death and even on a lucky streak it saves you maybe 20-35 stamina total. Just run a bunch of aoe around majr to go fast.
>>2141679I would personally prefer a strong Kaioken Goku with no SS. I think it’s likely too given how little of Kaioken Goku vs FF freiza is in the game
>>2141802There is zero chance they do a gdc nameku without SS.
>>2141778You weren't running both simultaneously?
>>2141841I mean I ran the highest hp I could either way but when you're running str piccolo it cancels it out. I think one time it saved me a whole run but I got really lucky with bonus enemies, and that's what 60 stamina
>>2141860I don't know if it makes that much difference, particularly if you have to protect him with an item after the Dokkan 2 update. I like units like Raditz who can just work with no maintenance and don't have super slow animations like Treeku.
namek celebration with no ezas is crazy work
>>2141812We had GDC with base blues and active skill Vegito last year
>>2141975it worked for omega
>>2141975namek f2p team incoming
>>2142013We already had a fusing gdc blues 2 years prior. They won't have a major celebration base nameku that doesn't transform.
>>2141975>him>str/agl FF Freeza>3rd form Freeza>Frontier units>str Nameku and WWC 2018 SEZAsThere is enough.
>>2141975they'll eza random villains and super saiyans on their leader skills, it doesn't have to be all namek
>dokkan day on wtbased stamina boost
What’re the guesses for the GDC theme again bros?
>>2142201namek is locked in. part 2 could be anything but i say kidku vs dkp.
>dokkan day during wtthese fucking retards
>>2142329that means extra stamina for wt and even refills using time chamber exp
>>2141679People want to use characters right away, not only use them for 2 turns halfway through the fight. It'd be better if we got a SSJ goku now and a kaioken goku dokkanfest later in the year. They really need to not completely abandon namek saga after gdc.
>don't have to select 112 characters for clash anymore>frontier missions can now be cleared with a special guest>game center achievements addedGeppy making big moves
Done my 23m. Now I can sit comfy the next two days.
>>2142732redpil me on the game center
fuckin dokkan day is over
>>21429261 stone for each cheevo like in the hoyo games
I hate the ss4 tags
>>2142877Your daily clears for 3 stones?
>tickets gave me the last copy needed to rainbow 2017 ssj3 gt goku>finally traded all the other dupes for 24 coins (half dfe half carnival)
>>2143006i thought only i hoarded stone dupes until i rainbow with free ones
>>2143006>>2143018Any intelligent player does this to some extent though it's been much harder since wish strips disappeared.
>bonus final with a bunch of ancient LRs>240k pointsholy shit
>>2143018we all do this I thought
>>2142988Same. Whatever GT celebration ezas fpss4 also needs to give us a better orb changer than Pan.
>>2142991Yeah I can do the missions and reach 30m. Comfy
>>2142400>one stamina refresh for wt is better than dumping a whole day of stamina link levelingbro, there's meat for that
>>2143111thus lets you save meat
>>2143018>>2143025i try to at least unlock the gold slot first but after that i save
>it’s another use Str UI mission
>>2143165I made a full RoG team without the tag or that bum.The downside was using teq SSBK.
>>2143166Was able to win it, do the rainbow mission and survive this turn all in 3 attempts. Feels nice
>>2143165I actually just brought the vegeta instead and he did fine enough.>>2143025Way too much management trying to remember which are coinable and which aren't, I'll take my L.
>>2143387>go to baba shop>coin tab>lock dupesez. You don't even have to do it much if you're an old player only missing units that actually deserve investment.
>>2143399I guess now that it's not 20 pages anymore this isn't the worst idea.
it's time
This might be the first World Tournament I skip. I can't be assed to grind this shit anymore.
>>214352650 stones and Gomah is on the ticket banner
i'm hoarding my tickets until piccoloku is on the banner. if he spooks me on a banner i'll wait until turles. and so on.
I always chuckle when this happens.
>>2143460flop of the century!!!
>>2143460fastest top grossing ever
>>2143526I reckon it's the next thing they're updating since everything is becoming low grind nowunless nips really love it
>>2143460I'll do whatever discounts they have but nothing past that.
>>2143546Alright, I will do it but this is the last time.>>2143775They have to progress past this ancient mobile game shit where everything takes hours. People don't have time anymore and mobile games aren't as popular. They still haven't fully embraced the emulators for dokkan which is absurd in the year 2026. I know some moblie games like summoners war had to create auto battling and battling while the game was closed because people stopped caring about logging in every day to do their chores. Dokkan needs to adapt.
>beat these incredibly annoying fights using these incredibly old category units for 1 stonethe fatigue is fully set in bros, i don't want to deal with timed missions and bosses with billions of HP anymore
>>2143791My biggest thing about World Tournament is that it is mind numbingly boring. Repetitive pointless content.
What is everyone's fastest time when getting 30 million points in the world tournament?
>>2143888i stop at 23 mil
>>2143888I average 5-6 minutes per win so 2 and a half hours I guess. I used to go up to 60 or 70 million before the sync put global and JP tournaments at the same time.
>>2143815None are that hard though. I beat all the category ones in less than 3 tries then did the tougher rainbow ones like stw and androids separately
Just hit 1500 stones before the countdown. Hopefully that’s enough for pity so I can ignore the carnival banners
>>21438882 days and change.Why would I sperg out when I can't even be bothered to spend my stamina normally? This is the only time for 2-3 months my stamina doesn't sit capped every day.
>>2143888Just finished, between getting slighty distracted watching videos It took about 3 hours.
first time i did a burst mode more than once, just to try dabura and xeno teams. i'll need the medals anyway.
>>2143888I'm only at 15 wins as of now....
Dead week ahoy
i mean it's cool the new update is making this permanent, but it should be free. would make the game more fun when you can mess around with builds whenever you want
>>2141443I kinda wonder now what EZA's of a pokemon would look like (aside from mega evolutions which kinda serve the same purpouse)
>>2143815I think I'm done trying the Treeku one, I'm clearly a skill-let losing with the same teams people post.
The answer to the first question is 'false', they foresee the enemy super attack for ten turns not seven.
>>2139976This team keeps getting me killed. Is the support film required?
>>2144469This is false? It’s 10 turns>>2144498I’ll see if I can do it without
we can now sort by full leader skill
>>2144498Seems like you need the support film since it gets my 55% AGL21 over the damage threshold. I think I also didn’t whis one turn and let dodge or die happen
>>2144641The engoodening of geppy
>gomah frontier skinhell yeah
>U7 repsthis mission is pure dodge or die RNG, or am i missing something? Do the nips really enjoy this type of missions?
I've been saving the RE Zones for later ever since they became permanent, what the fuck is this Kid Gohan? How blatant can you be with the "summon for the newest unit" (TEQ Turles) bullshit?
>>2144645Fuck. I haven't done SBR in years just to save stones. GDC better be Namek.
>>2144969Yeah, the fight is pretty easy though since Freiza/17 don’t do anything
They're gonna do a bait banner with metal cooler in it.
4chan maintenance is over, where's our apology Clover Stones?
>>2145067Metal Cooler isn't on it. The equips were in the JP update.https://dokkan.game-db.org/db/leak-info/
>>2145188>looks at list>str roshi>teq base vegeta>lr pikkon>lr tien>lr ss trio>tanabata golden freezaI thought bait was supposed to at least pretend to be appealing. guess gdc's picks must be pretty lackluster this year if they don't feel the need to bait ahead of it.
>>2145502T R U E
>>2145502>please scour our twitter to find the answerFuck you, I thought with the first question we'd have good questions this time.
last minute bait banner
>>2145589
the other one
gdc is their last chance to rerun gohan before the december carnival, which would be a 1 year gap, so he's guaranteed to be coming up. 5guys first rerun was also wwc.
>100 stones for 4 featuredThat's not bait that's amazing.
>>2145602readletbro...
>>2145602It's gssr for the 25 stones not gfssr.
>>2145591150 in, got Gohan but no Tien or Clownren
>>2145615>GohanThe future one I mean
>>2145591nice got my first gomah
>>2145610Ah nice.Still got my first kid gohan and an MV dupe between the 4 25 stone multis, big hit.I also got 2 more MVs on the 100 stone banner, one of which was overkill, but this is the best shaft possible for me. Love this motherfucker.
So you grab the Roshi equips and who else? Anyone else not have seriously serious equips that we can throw on for free?
Feeling cute, might delete later.
>>2145591kaiku still runnable?
>>2145916Yeah, just not on AoE stuff
>>2145480It could also mean GDC is DB or Cell with that random Vegeta and every DB release in the last 2 years but 1.>>2145589>>2145591This is the first time a bait banner won't get me. 1/7 odds are too fucking terrible.
Faggot ass devs let me buy Vegeta
>>2146300I want that Gohan, trunks duo unit
Why the fuck has the int future gohan not been in the coin shop yet?
>tao>and thisI wasted 200 stones
>>2146516King Cold w
>>2146524got another on the dokkan banner and int saibamen which I didn't have eitherthe other day I pulled like 4 featured in a multi and still didn't get the new unit, my luck is twisted
>summoned on the 2 25s to get the new MV or a second dupe for Tao>second summon Vegito got Tao to 79% and twice the amount of coins that 50 would givevery basednew captcha sucks btw
our king datruth is not on cinna's stream?
nano has gotten fat
filtered and hidden
>>2146749why is cinna niggerhaired
Can't wait for the new goku. It's been ages since the last one.
>>2146873THIS
>>2147238F A L S E
>>2147238no it's the two categories on his leader skill
>tfw no qt jap dokkan gfhttps://x.com/dokkan_official/status/2089925321659146496
>>2147416
>>2147416Where's the EN version with a young black transkween
>>2147424https://www.youtube.com/shorts/QPI1QGaMfRM
>>2147416NAMEKCHADS IT'S TIME
>>2147416>>2147434>Zenkai Power in the backgroundAs if we needed any more confirmation.https://youtu.be/bct1TU2P58w
>>2147416You just know she watches datruth
>>2147482>sees qt japanese girl>thinks of a fat jewish manpeak american
>>2147502Wait is he actually jewish? lmao
if the gameplay for the mission is clicking the orb, throwing my hands up and hope for a dodge i'm simply not doing it
Dubs: summon for majgetaSingles: don’t >>2147416She looks like she sleeps alone
I was on top of my friend's list for WT.Did most of the people I added here before stop? I'd believe it.
>>2147781I finished 2.2k. I have most people still added from chain battle but left have basically not logged in between February-July and October-January last year
Who benefits the most from the new bait banner equips?
Countdown should start Saturday(?). Will there be a stream revealing the art then or will it just be a trailer and character reveal?Then next week should probably be memorial stones and Teq Bardocks eza, maybe LR Phy Bardocks SEZA>>2147966Gomah or Majin tag
Part 1 Namek SagaPart 2 Cell SagaPart 3 Buu saga
>>2147781i just do the missions and stop
i now spend meat to get top 50 local for the extra ssr ticket.
>>2147253Nice bait, but remember that's the EZA version of Cooler.
>>2147966Why the hell would you even summon? Now the F2P equips are better there is 0 reason to summon on that garbage.
>>2148101This, it's pathetic that I can get top 20k that way now. I remember how cutthroat top 10k was back in the day when you had to do 80 wins for 1 GSSR ticket.
>>2148225lr goku and gohan gdc eza is a no brainer
>>2148225they are saving that frieza for the black frieza celebration in 5 more years
>>2148225Likely: LR Goku and Gohan, Teq Bardock, LR Super Buu, Teq Super Trunks, SS TrioUnlikely: Phy Angel Freiza, Str Gohan and PiccoloWildcard: LR Teq Gohan and Piccolo
>>2148225Heroes will get EZAs before Angelza
I come from the futureGDC has GT in it and both DFE Str 17s and Agl Omega EZA
>playing frontier>click missions>"Missions updated, returning to home screen">go back to frontier>click missions>"Missions updated, returning to home screen"
>>2148689false, it's 30%
>>2148689
>>2148244I still don't have the INT Ss Trio and wanted it
>>2148871They are so far beyond aged out they didn't even hold up in the last Battlefield.
>>2148876
>>2148907Massively raises attack for 3 turns? That seems cool. But 9 orbs for 73% dmg reduction, not many stats and a 7 turn lifetime is a bit spooky. It would also have been cooler if their 12 ki support was permanent like LR V&T
>>2148907>extra stats for X turns!*>actually X/2 because it also counts when the character is not in the rotationi'm tired of this slop passive, same for extra stats for 1 (one) turn from the start of battle
>>2148907i've had these guys at 55% for ages
>>2148907These guys have been featured like twice how are they already EZAing.I can't in good faith coin an EZA at 55% so I guess I'll never get to know how good they are.
>>2148907>needs 9 orbs>no guaranteed additional super>great chance I hate this shit so much
>>2148907>>2148923>first dropped xmas 2023>8 months later returns for broly wwc banner>2 years later returns on 1 to 2 summon bait bannersbruh
Didn’t even realize I had them
>>2148907>450/200% and 200/200% raw stats>only change to their core design is easier orbsThey seem 5guys level so upper mid. Anon definitely should not have pulled on the bait banner for this.
Wow that eza looks like dogshit. high chance to dodge (lol) and an average of 66% damage reduction for the first seven turns is awful. doesn't even matter if they hit hard because they will be dying as soon as the enemy hits them modestly hard which will happen fairly frequently because lmao high chance to dodge.>>2148923>I can't in good faith coin an EZA at 55%Well that's the best part, they're not available to coin right now anyway lol
>>2148907>trunksa gorillion more buffs for the str blues team!
>>2148225tf is guppy doing ezaing the end of 2023 units so damn early
soon
>3 !/dokkan/ lost
Movie heroes continuing the streak of absolute mid
>int SS trio were dogshit on release and dogshit on ezaSad life
>>2149333Nah, I got plenty of use out of them on the PHY Broly movie Trio's team.Nice trips though
>Kid Kuririn 100 million attack in a semi-realistic scenarioI'm surprised no one has mentioned this. He just needs a team.
Saiyan Saga countdown into Namek saga part 1with teq Bardock being the countdown eza >>2148225hell yeah
TRAPPED and BETRAYED by maintenance in 2 hours
I give up on androids and rep 7 missions
>>2150015Fuck. The Space-Traveling Warriors mission took forever and I'm still in the middle of my SBR grind to get the support film for Cell Max.
>>2150016do you have str gamma 2? he and agl can nuke cell for half his health. you can run him as a friend since the 3 peppy androids are on battle of wits, and the 4 of them fulfill 18's condition.
>>2150019>beat Cell Max right after maintenance startedI have to do it again, don't I?
There can be no more doubt.
>>2150052Yeah i do.
>>2150216I wonder if geppy thinks he's being slick.>heh, surely they'll think this means saiyan saga
>mid unit gets a sick battle motionit's not fair
>>2150292Truearoo.
>>2150292i can't check because of maintenance
what happens when gdc isn't 3 parts
>>2150325We already know it's lasting 2 months from the returning events and burst modes.
IT'S UPhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/oZIIkcbDdr8
>>2150325It'll be Z into Beerus Super to coincide with the new anime
>>2150325i don't think the ticket banners lasted until the end of october last time
>>2150330CUI GODS IT'S TIME
>>2150330Bejitabros... i kneel...
>>2150334reminder
>>2150364The absolute best part of that shit show
This is a nice change
>>2150586The compatibility is an amazing change, yeah. I'd given up on putting units under full leader skills because it was such a pain to do 6 variations of and statements.
>>2150586you can also sort by unit release date now
>>2150629best part of the update
>finally get around to the new Quest stages>almost get Majin Piccolo>Dabura freed from Babidi's controlAmbivalent Dabura is always cool to see, hope he stays an ally.
It’s always funny to me they literally remade SS2 Gohan
>saiyan saga demoted to countdown fodder
Has Geppy redeemed himself? It was a rocky start to his tenure, but things have been heading in the right direction after the time-gated content was scrapped.
even though omatsu was behind 11th anni when the timegating started...
>>2151041>after the time-gated content was scrapped.Bro we got only 7 days to do EX missions in the middle of a WT and a maintenance
>>2150932>LR Piccolo/Goku>LR Kid Gohan EZA>LR Goku&Piccolo EZA>Vegeta/Nappa>STR Nappa EZA>Saibaiman>PHY and TEQ Raditz EZAWe already got enough Saiyan Saga content for 2026.
>>2150883I like that they're trying with the narrative now. If only they did from the beginning, they wouldn't be constricted by the dogshit they did at first and the quality could be on par with Legends' story.
>>2151432I'm looking forward to see who Baby possesses
>>2151360>still no well animated galick gun vs kamehameha >still no good kaioken TIMES FOUR cardsaiyan saga anni headliners or bust
Why did we get 5 boosts
>only Kaioken x20 card is a 2018 TUR
What's the cutoff for the memorial stones? 100% no Metal Cooler right?
>>2151848no, it usually goes up to june of last year, so tao and earlier.
>>2149321>gave more exclamation points to the golden week units than both metal cooler army and dabura>gave the same amount to metal cooler army as he did lr god vegeta>only gave RRA piccolo 2the guy is a retard you really shouldn't take him seriously
>>2151892mc's exclamations were correct before the support he got later
>>2151892nah he's awesome actually
>>2151847Also this piece of shit who awakens from Saiyan arc to Namek and gets neither category as a result. Godgeta's team got murdered in comparison.>>2151896He cleared everything on day 1 and carried garbage teammates like Garlic Jr. and Babidi.
Why don't we have units from all the movies? I want garlic jrs henchmen.
We still need LRs for>Android 13>Lord Slug>Hirudegarn
ITS UP
How the fuck are you supposed to clear this Gomah stage in 4 turns
>>2152071>Cooler mentionedTEQ METAL COOLER BROS OUR BUFFS ARE COMING
>>2152099he's vulnerable on the third turn of phase 2 so line up str and teq daimaku to nuke him
Memorial stones just dropped. My id ends in 8.
>>2152102What rotations on what turns
They dropped all the memorial stones at once. Also the 100,000 friend point banner is up.
>11,000 green gems from expired popo medalsi kinda liked them carrying over between popo reruns but i grind it enough anyway i guess>>2152112doesn't matter as long as long as you 1 turn phase 1 and the daimakus end up together on turn 4, just float whatever you have to.
>140 tickets for 1 dokkanfest unitGot rid of my shaft for GDC.
>>2152123At least they didn't split the banner
>>2152123I haven't gotten a single new featured since anni, you think 1 shaft will save you?
>142 ticketsThere goes my gdc luck
>>2152123Mine was pretty mediocre outside this mult (finished godku and the 23rd wt goku, 3rd dupe for INT MV). I'd say it was good overall, one new unit in INT Saibaman.
>>2152110I got way, way too few stones this year. Did they actually give out less or did I just not summon as much?
>people constantly said the stone income hasn't gone down every time I've said it did>around 25 memorial stones less than last yearV I N D I C A T E Dtickets were a complete shaft as well. three fucking raditz's and that bum phy pikkon. guess the tickets were as rigged as the banners have been this year. should've just grabbed myself a hirudigarn copy and bailed.
>>2152163it means you summoned less not that you had less stones
>new TEQ Bardock>finished Gamma1I'm still missing TEQ Pan and PHY Turles.Crazy how unhype this was, pulled a dupe for TEQ Kaiokek blue but he was released power crept like every modern unit so it doesn't matter
>82 tickets2 new units and a couple of useful dupes, feels good
>>2152163Did last year not come after and include gdc
>>2152168I pulled a bunch of trash and 3rd dupes. I am only missing Hit and 1st Form Freeza but it still hurts getting several DFEs/LRs I've already rainbowed and a single new unit in str Dyspo.
I keep bringing AGL Nappa/Vegeta as my last unit but holy hell they've been crept to death and back.I guess I should get this INT Saibaman up asap. At least TEQ Great Ape Vegeta can hold on still.
>got cocky and tried to do modern contentOh yeah okay my bad, right, forgot I'm supposed to just wait for powercreep.Great Ape Gohan did 900k to my rainbowed MV post super and then slapped babidi for 2.4 million with a normal at the end of turn 1.
you're supposed to build every unit full dodge and give them dodge equips. You're supposed to dodge every attack while chipping away at the enemy 1.5B HP bar for 40 minutes. That's the intended way to play in case you haven't figured it out already in the last 3 years
SEZA soon? He was dead on arrival back in 2022
>>2152396I'm using Saiyan Saga with no issues so far. Get AGL kid Gohan from the WT shop if you have the signatures and build him full dodge since he supports a lot.
I hate the SS4 tags
>>2152420Oh wait, I take that back. I'm retarded.Yeah, you absolutely need modern content units or ones that nullify supers/dodge.
>>2152428Oh yeah, he disables dodge. Woops. Better bring STR Goku then. AGL Gogeta might fair well alongside INT due to Super counter.
GDC and 12th Anni? Both are skips
Does anyone remember from the last time a Burst Mode was renewed, do I have to clear it again or will I get the same amount of points from my last attempt again?
>One copy of TEQ Bardock and 2 AGL First Form Frieza dupes among other cards These guys better EZA during the countdown or GDC proper
Z Heroes and Z Bosses status?
>>2152417He was very underrated in 2022 as most mid units are.
>>2152417Him and STR FP Frieza
>had to take auto battle off at stage 8 for int SS trioNyo…>>2152778I have a memory of him being worse than when they released him. Like his base couldn’t keep up the meta it was released in and the SS form wasn’t anywhere near worth the trouble. On his OG release I’m pretty sure he helped with a ton of missions.
>>2152431>ATK -40% after receiving a Physical Super Attackgimmick fight>>2152786He was definitely worse than release but that's because he came out just before the LGE meta as a stacker.On EZA, base was a bit squishy but they buffed his transformation condition which helped a lot. The main problem was always just the rng guard after transforming. He'd be respectable if you were in a phy phase or got lucky.
What the fuck is a physical super attack do they mean unarmed
is there some free bot like back then with the bot16 from that discord?
>>2152962ki blast is projectilesunarmed is hand to handphysical are weaponsother is like magic or something
>debuff gohan's attack>daima goku still takes 800k from the super
I feel this meta creep is gonna be damage centric and not defence. They’ve went a bit too crazy the past year >>2152973Other is combinations so like cell max’s hit then mouth blast
>>2153004The chart must be wrong (>>2152431), I was in giant mode as Gomah on turn 4 and the super was doing 18m. That would make more sense since daimaku has 10m thresholds
>>2153063It's 15% stronger than the raw stat because of opposite class. Daimaku just isn't that good of a tank.
Realm of GAWDS (I probably should've capped the gohan)
https://youtu.be/aZRIxEkW2Q4?si=8AgHG_J_K5_9dggIITS UP
146 Tickets.Only NEW unit is AGL Kale. LR Janemba, Bardock, Gohan and Veggie have been rainbowed for years :^)
Coolabros...our honeymoon phase is over....
>>2153261That shit was over day 1, did you try taking this guy to Treeku?The 40% before attacking exists for aoes turn 1 and thats it.
142 tickets and all I got of note was Pui Pui. Anything else was something I already had at maxed dupes.
So they nerfed the shit out of Battlefield and took all our stones? That's awesome.
>>2153311it says they'll add more stages to it
>>2153311it's ok, they'll put the stones behind time limited ex missions where you need to use the newest summonable unit and 5 other unrunnable units from the category. The community seems to love this change
A STONE NERF JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE
>>2153311Geppy got vewy angery with me logging in 1 day a month to grab everything in a couple of hours instead of staying on the daily drip feed
The best content from the geppy era was him grinding meta coolers like it was fun and engaging content then just throwing on a fake modifier before quitting.
>>2127098Hey so I ran this unit and I know we have insane real numbers but she shat out like 3 55 million supers guaranteed for my battle of wits mission in seriously serious battles so she can't be all bad.I guess the question is how that 42% dr and no dodge is gonna hold up (it's not).
>>2153938She is barely scrapping by in the meta and my 55% on is shooting out 20m attack so I hate her
>>2153955Yeah, I do have 3 dupes in mine. Not to say she's great or anything, but ever since 10th anni, it's been increasingly clear that EZAs are designed entirely around having multiple dupes. If you have a unit under 79% when it EZAs, just take the stones and keep moving.
based tickets
>>2153261>Turn 1 i.e. 0 stacks>TEQ G Frieza (cope pick)>SPD Cell Max in a MC team
I got lots of mileage out of 55% fistku
Does Dragon stone 11 go away? I have 5 and I already have everyone rainbowed.
>>2154260no
>>2153261>putting lr cooler in slot 1>everAverage lr golden freeza user right there.
>>2154333Thanks them naming stuff always worries me. It's like all the retarded coins.
>released too early to be a tag>released too early to eza with the rest of namekGohan/piccolo got shafted so hard...
4 more dayhttps://www.youtube.com/live/tOLndvPH-Jc
>>2154104A dodge or die unit can make the difference, so I think "normal" 21 will see use for a bit.The issue is that, like, my 7th anni monkeys and 8th anni gt duo were worthless on eza because both were 55%. Maybe it's moreso an issue with stackers, but they were both just getting shot after turn 1. Hell, the former now just die turn 1.
They have to add a way to make it easier to do this kind of grinding. Why do they force me to manually do these in 2026? It takes too much time and effort.
>>2154968I stopped caring about anything that isn't a base goku.I have 900 kais.If I run out I'll just quit.
How many LRs are you missing? This year has been dogshit for me random pulling LRs within a few tries and 3000 day goku has fucked things up completely
>>2155190actually got a copy of lr ginyu from tickets
When the banners drop, do you guys think that pulling while taking a shit will give better luck?I pulled with my cock last year with no luck.
>>2155190
>>2155515I've had some pretty good luck while taking a shit, myself.
>>2155190I've been consistently at 10-15 for the past 3 years or so, oldest hole is carnival Omega.
>no int ui in the red stone shop
>>2155765I scooped up the PHY Piccolo and Goku, mine was 55%.I need 3 cooler dupes, I should wait until the banners drop in case he's featured but there's no actual universe.Same deal for PHY Trunks.
>>2155765skill issue, should've invested in him during 10th anni if you somehow didn't have the 9 year old unit duped
>>2155789Not him but I’ve summoned on every banner INT UI was featured on since his release, never got him and had to coin him when he eza’d
>carnival banners are shaping up to be shit>barely have any of the dfesGDC looks good for me since I can just ignore the carnivals and pity whatever one looks good
>>2155863It's the first gohan rerun and the 2nd of only 3 appearances if he's like the other xmas carnivals. We shall be soommoning.
>>2155849>on EZAThat's only 3 years, took me that long to get the int 3rd anni fusion. The only units it makes sense to miss for half the game's lifespan or more are those who basically never get featured.
>>2155972so every carnival
Considering the GVT EZA, I think GDC will focus on Super Saiyan 1.>part 1 Super Saiyan Nameku that leads Super Saiyans and/or Z Heroes and Frieza that leads Successors and Z Bosses>part 2 SS1 transforming Cell Games Gohan that leads Earth-Protecting Heroes>3rd anniversary SEZAs (both are Super Saiyans and Z Heroes)
>>2151565If I remember correctly, Baby appears in one of the dark cloud "the time distortion is really strong here!" stages, which I don't think is supposed to be "canon".
>>2156571It’s just one SS on turn though isn’t it?Couldn’t it be>Part one Kaioken x20 Goku with SS Goku transformation >Part two SS Goku which new mechanics into SS2 Gohan>Part 3 doesn’t have a super LR because it’s 5 LRs and the majin tags are considered the super side
Quit playing since a bit after anni because I had a million red coins and nothing to ever spend them on. Other than the melty around dokkan frontier wasting nameku, metal cooler being disgusting, beast being mid, and a million mediocre EZAs, did I miss anything?
>>2156603Fuck.
>>2156807There is apparently a second Nameku with godly animations that they just didn't feel like releasing. That's what everybody thinks we're about to get and they have not been subtle with the hints.Cell Max is good but he's not on MC's team.Arinsu is a very broken banner unit and Pansy is okay I guess. CoEB got renewed and now there's a gimmicky ape Gohan fight that requires weapon supers.
>>2156807>GDC will likely be three parts going through the Z sagas with 5 or 6 LRs. >Cell Max is basically modern golden Frieza and the 500000th extreme domain thing>Beast is fine, he basically has Teq Vegito level damage which can carry you through events>Turles is a better Cell Max>The two peppy girl units are top 10 units and cowgirl 17 is great>A21 ezas were useable but nothing special>LR Int Trio are pretty dogshit atm unless you have beast>battlefield doesn’t have the unit selection part anymore and is drip fed content now for some reason
>>2156860>>2156884TY. I see they added super attack skip and changed HiPo resets to 1 stone. Pretty nice QoL changes. Alt art is kind of cringe, but whatever. Sucks the GDC stone selection is garbage again.
>>2156885There’s also a leader search and you can search which units are most compatible for the leaderskill which is a really good QoL update
whats the best team for the monkey
>>2156947For no iteming? Realm of gods can keep up the dodge if you bring teq UI but is dodge or die. Teq MC with phy King Cold is baby mode. Beast can blitz him and survive a turn with the crit if you active.If you’re just looking to beat him just Daimaku and spam whis/icurus
>>2156885They're doing super skips like sprite updates which is pretty bullshit. Only new releases/EZAs are getting them so far.>>2156947I keep trying and failing to no-item him with Metal Cooler (no Cold) and Majeta. They'd both be pretty braindead with items though.
This is my 9th year playing. Since anniversary I've only gotten Beerus and Arinsu from tickets. I've spent several thousand stones between banners since. I'm going into WWDC with 750 stones and if I don't get one of the new LRs I think I'm at my limit on this game. >should have saved til pity!That may be true, but as a longtime player that has never had to rely on it previously, this shit is fucking miserable. The amount of power creep does not help either having to rely on poverty EZAs.
>>2157340You were around for 7th anni when the game killed itself with (at the time) the worst powercreep ever. Just accept that it happens and don't touch content for months.The time limited red zones scared me, but I'm back to just not touching stuff until I can literally sleep my way through it.
got 1500 stones readyenough to pity my shiny new LR Kid Buu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVGdpSXtGD4Omegabros...
>>2157348The game just isn't fun when you have nothing new to use and keep falling behind as numbers skyrocket. I don't even know what good attack stats are anymore.
>>2157368The game has never been fun, anon.You just like dragon ball.
>>2157369It was fun when I could put together 2 dozen teams and could clear whatever, but now saying that I realize that was 5 years ago and I have no idea why I'm even here still.
>>2157373You just like dragon ball.
>>2157340I spent a shitload on the metal cooler and beast banners (~1200) and 350 on the ss3 mini, got none of them btw, but I still have 1700 going into gdc. Did you summon on the girl and bait banners?
>>2157354>luud took below 200k from a crit superIt looks like you need those exact rotations to succeed but damn.
>>2157499I got Arinsu off tickets, I dumped most of my stones on MV, Cooler, Turles, and Cell Max. Got none of them.
I've been a good little savegoy since my back to back forced pity on anni and saiyan day so I'm up to 3k. Had insane ticket luck when arinsu dropped though so gdc might be another gigashaft.
How long has the icon been Kid Goku on the Play Store? The actual app icon is still 10th anni wallpaper Goku.
>>2157686I see this one
I NEED IT
>>2157368>I don't even know what good attack stats are anymore.Baseline is 3 40 million crit supers. Less than that is subpar.>>2157369It's fun once in a blue moon when the units and content are balanced properly compared to one another.
I hate countdowns, the dead period between the last celebration and a big celebration should be shorter>>2157730I’d consider just 40m x 3 to be subpar desu. I think an “good” damage number for one turn is cumulative 150m with a 60%+ chance to crit, anything more than that is ideal
>>2158021>60%+ chance to critThe problem is you do like a 3rd of the damage when you miss a crit. That's why guaranteeing it is more important than the raw numbers.
I'm sure this GDC will deliver but i wonder how long geppy can keep outdoing himself while running out of source material fast
Had a nightmare that I'm starting WWC with only 300 ds instead of my current 1300
I should probably awaken TEQ Bardock since he's due for an EZA.
tag blues have stood the test of time despite the haters claims
>>2158497Blueku has.Vegeta literally can only show up behind a whis/icarus or if you know they're dead that turn.
>>2158712That card has a Vegeta?
I use vegeta to nuke all the time and he can tank like 10 mil with active so he's fine against normals.
>>2158744Same, I rarely if never use the VB active
>>2158744>>2158801getting around the monkey dodge cancel was the first time I've used the goku side active in probably 6 months
>>2157730I've found the game is at it's most fun for me when they are introducing brand new characters or brand new mechanics. After nearly 12 years, and a lot of apathy and neglect around the IP, it's hard to blame them for how they handle character choices. Delicate balance between making money, making hype choices, but not exhausting your break-glass-in-case-of-emergency units. You can't do super gogeta 4 times a year, but you also can't do devilman into ledgic into abo and cado into Nam. They've kept us waiting for Z headliners for a while. I hope they get creative with the mechanics and teams and make the characters strong, because I've felt like most characters aren't satisfying to use anymore. EX is cool in concept, but at the end of the day characters being balanced around their best possible roll on the roulette locked behind conditions largely out of your control in this game is just not fun. It's end of August and I'm groaning when I have to put any 11th anni headliner on my team
This is always satisfying
>>2158718tbf the Vegeta from that card pumps out waaaayy more damage than Goku but can't dodge for shit.
Is the 8th anni Z duo bugged for anyone else? The spirit bomb animation doesn't play, it just shows a black screen.
>>2159581I never use the standby but the int trio's super skip just flings the enemy sprite across the screen and it's hilarious.
>>2159581I saw this yesterday with STR LR SS Gohan's standby while going through the old blue zone for stones
so how will geppy force vegeta into every part?
>>2159871base vegeta banner unit 1 in part 1super saiyan vegeta banner unit in part 2as part of vegito or super saiyan 2 banner unit in part 3
feels like it's time for yet another banner unit piccolo
>>2159931If they wanted to get real creative, he could be part of the Goku unit if it includes a standby or spirit bomb. If they really want to make amends, they can EZA the teq banner unit and make him insane to make up for him being pathetic on release and unusable for the 5 years after that
>>2159964I could see either Goku -> Piccolo (Spirit Bomb Finisher) - SS Goku or Goku -> Healing Pod -> Kaiokenku/SSGokuBut ultimately what I really want is just FF Frieza -> Revive -> FP Frieza with Destroyed Namek Domain
>>2160085Please no more extreme domains and FP Frieza. New mechanic and just FF Freiza
>>21599312nd Form Freiza would be cool then you could eventually run>SEZA PB 1st form Frieza>Banner unit 2nd form Frieza>EZA 3rd form Frieza>DFE LR FF Frieza>SEZA LR FP Frieza >Someone else
>>2160121There were icons for something called "shielding" in a ddl and and temporary debuff/status immunity so a new mechanic is not unlikely.We still need an active that destroys Namek and makes a domain though.
Reminder for those that missed out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDub3TkF6WsLegends is just streaming cooler for 3 days due to their new unit.That's cute.
>>2160177>missed out>don’t really care because Dabura and other coolers can easily clear terrifying conquerors missions while friend MC can clear stw missions
>>2160177It will only be a miss if both the stones I saved don't get me the new units and if the new units don't power creep cooler
>>2160177all i know is i've had this nigga job to treeku and gohan
>the original BEAST will EZA in 6 months
>>2160275I just know they're gonna make him incredibly mid. not even anni headliners are safe from mediocre ezas anymore
>>2160281They’ve been quite good at anni ezas, the worst ones have probably been Kid Gohan or GT spirit bomb. And it’s not like they’ve been unusable. The worst thing they could do with beast is think he just needs stats, they need to give him stats and something extra
Do you think the banners will drop after the stream or like 2-3 hours after at reset?
>>2160298If any of them are on the level of AGL UI and INT SSBE EZAs, I'll do backflips. SSBE didn't age super well, but those two were so elite when they dropped. Gold standard in my book. I think all 4 of the EZAs from 11th anni were disappointing. Kaiku and buu duo are useful, and I can't pretend they're bad, but they're not fun IMO. GT duo was robbed and I'm still upset and kid gohan is whatever.I feel like Gogeta will be quite strong, but will still suffer from never really being around because they'll still incentivize you to float him like before and like 5th anni EZAs. Broly will be strong, but domain is a death sentence for extreme characters. Gammas will probably be mediocre, maybe Gamma 1 will be stealthy broken Beast will probably get the orange piccolo treatment where he's okay, but really can't sit slot 1 and you'll mostly hide him until he can use the active and then hide him again
>>2160309I'm gonna assume it'll be 4 hours later like usual. Annoying because I remember tag blues and rose dropping around reset last year because I was at the store when the banners dropped
>>2160313Kaiku is the closest to AGL UI imo. I don’t think it’s outrageous to say he’s the best character to come out of the 10th anni with hindsight and the only one who really survived GDC powercreep. Thinking about it maybe Str Gogeta and Int Cell deserve to be in discussion for mid ezas, Int Cell had his moments though.>he's okay, but really can't sit slot 1 and you'll mostly hide himI think in the context of the 12th anni he’ll be able to sit slot one but that’ll happen when the next powercreep happens but having that free taunt turn will be good. What I think will be good for him is super heroes is walking into a stream of buffs with the remake.I am making an early prediction that the gammas will be the best eza of the 12th anni though. Their kit feels like if you gave them modern stats they would go a bit insane.
>>2160313>Kaiku isn't funHe can't die and reguarly hits 70 million. What's not to like?
Kaiku jobbed repeatedly when i tried earth bred fighters mission vs ss3ku. Couldn't do it until I switched to realm of gods.
>>2160335My gripe isn't even so much with him as it is his place on his teams. Needing to get hit to build up and also needing some prioritization to stack and get put in front of hits is tough when he's next to the tag 4s, buu duo, and others that are orb hungry, desperately need to super, or also want or need to get hit
>>2160351It's 3 hits and he only gets 1 attack stack to hit harder. You can float him with no trouble most of the time or throw him in slot 1 for 1 turn.
>>2160298The issue with ALL EZAs the last 18 months has been they're clearly designed around the unit being at 79% or higher. GT Duo and the 7th anni monkeys were actually unusable for me at 55%.
you have been going full red tickets, right?
>>2160470The thought of losing 30 stones hurt less than the thought of losing 120 stones, even if the former is 4 times more likely to happen.I'd go for whatever is mathematically more likely but they split this one down the middle.
>>2160470Yup, always full bore with any of these "chance" events
>>2160470What tickets where
>>2160559My BOY......
>>2160559surely you've clicked on the bonus tab in the last 2 weeks
>>2160470I went half and half.>>2160485>The thought of losing 30 stones hurt less than the thought of losing 120 stonesthis but the opposite
I wish the Extra Dokkan Frontier stages had node-specific boosts for characters.Being incentivized to use specific characters was really fun in the Namek Saga stages, especially when it's a dogshit TUR that EZA'd years ago/never EZA'd.
I WANT TO SUMMON
>>2160616You say this but I just did the mandatory recoome stage and he lived turn 1 with 7% because vegeta did a slot 1 super immediately so I had to tag the next turn.They just don't know how to balance the mode, I'm waiting for some broken namek unit this celebration so I can finally get the 2 turn and 5 turn freeza kills.
24 more hours
is this true
>>2159328does the event level from 1 to 10
>>2160811No, it's just a guaranteed +1. I wait until I have 6 units with mostly 9s, cap off the 8s with rainbow orbs and do the event.
New "Covering" ability found in game
>>2160866If this lets one of your strong units protect the shittier ones it could revitilize the game for me a lot. Suddenly I could actually use units older than half a year without them exploding.But need to see how it works.
>>2160866I get a feeling this is going to be direct attack mechanic like beast has with extra steps
>>2160866Bet it’s gonna be an rng taunt or survive ko like mechanic
>>2160194sounds like a (You) problem ngl
>>2160866Hell yeahhttps://arch.b4k.dev/vmg/thread/1621978/#q1634232
>>2160866>7th anni mechanic: stun but nerfed>new DLC mechanic: taunt but nerfed
>>2160866just sounds like a target skill and a hit count standby put together
>>2160866>nameku shields entire rotation from all out attacks>can't stack defense fast enough so he gets blown out turn 1i can see it now...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tOLndvPH-Jc7 hours
>>2161717I NEED IT
I’ve been getting so many god equips this week
>>2161717I would not be surprised if it's kaioken goku and great ape vegeta with namek being part 2. I'm not going to get my hopes up for a ss1 goku and frieza tonight
11 years of Dokkan and we have 0 fucking Zarbons.He BETTER be the banner unit.
>>2161880wonder if he'll be a transforming dfe tier like banner teq vegeta or if they'll save it for a filler LR in the future
>>2161880>0 fucking ZarbonsI am forgotten.
>>2161895That's Zarbon & Dodoria and a F2P unit.And Monster Zarbon has literally 0 SSRs.
>>2161863Would be a bit weird to have the countdown be the thing
>>2161900>That's Zarbon & Dodoria and a F2P unit.So not 0. He could get one since this one came last Namek Worldwide.
>>2161901I don't think it's that absurd. The countdown is everything leading up to the moment vegeta transforms. All I'm saying is I won't be surprised at all if part 1 is that
600 stones and a dream (i'm not pulling the new LR lol)
>>2161863We just got a Vegeta that goes ape not 6 months ago.
Place your bets will they be retards and have the data download at the beginning of the stream again or delay it
>>2161978Probably delay it until reset, apparently the banners might not drop till about 5 hours after the stream if they drop with the ost change
1 HOUR
30 MINS
is it good or bad luck to shit before the stream
ARE YOU GUYS FUCKING REAAADYYY??
Watch the Cover mechanic be dogshit and uncontrollable so Goku will randomly cover a hit that LR AGL Frieza would tank and then Goku eats shit and dies.
>>2162042Your luck is predetermined. You either have the seed or you don't.
>>2162044god wouldn't allow something this funny to be real
>>2162043My FUARKING Heroes
nice song
>mac taskbarwhut
>streamed from my Macbook Pro
>white and pinkYep it's Namek
better roll red geppy or someone will set your house on fire
GO RED
What the fuck is wrong with the knobs on the wheel? Are they retarded?
HOLY FUCKING GODPY!! GLUTTONS WIN!!!!
GEPPY I FUCKING KNEEEEEEEEEEEL
BLUEBROS?????? AAAIIEEEEEEE
I WON
60 stones is still nice for me I guess
GEPPY IS THE MAN
Who up Yajing they robe right now
TONY
Three years in a row I don't get stones from this shit fucking RNG faggots
>went all in on redGO BIGBROS WE DID IT
NO WAY... NAMEK?????? WHO SAW THIS COMING
>Universe Shaking Final ShowdownNamek into Boo
what killed the hype
THE ANIMATIONS
CHA LA HEAD CHA LA
Now the question is will they be compressed to shit
wish he was shirtless but FUCK YEAH
fuck yeah they arent transforming slop
Im gonna need that Goku to be the undisputed number 1 for at least 6 months
finally a non muscular non golden freezer
BANNER UNIT BUFF
SEZA first form, new 2nd Form, EZA 3rd form, LR final form
>banner units get good leader skills nowI guess Arinsu and Panzy weren't just one-offs.
LR Frieza is the DFE
those animations are fucking insane bro
Holy fucking shit
HOLY FUCK
perfect finisher
>no ki counter kickDamn.
DOGSHIT leader skill lets go, this is supposed to be the extreme lead until next gdc btw
Frieza nullifies all negative effects
>>2162099This is supposed to be yet another Metal Cooler buff.
taunt counter???
why does he keep misgendering frieza
WTFFFF
>no animation changes after transformationgw hit all over again
DOUBLE multiplicative defense???
Frieza's the best in the fucking game lol
>350+ million damage from supers>72 million counter>turn 3Uh oh...
280m counter at 69%
>70 million counterThat's over 200 million attack. He's MV level damage.>>2162104gyaru Freeza
when are the banners live?
>>216211890 minutes
golden fighters category
GOLDEN FIGHTERS CATEGORY
>>2162043GOLDEN FIGHTERS (and piccolo)
straight up god tier animations for goku but no super saiyan intro is awful
GOLDEN BOYS
>another super saiyan category
>PBSS but SS1 instead of god forms and SS4sshould've been Z Heroes
I can finally stomp frontier
>only anni unit on his lead is ultra bejita
>dodge or die namekuOH I'M LAFFIN
>>2162131>best of z
>>2162131He's going to tank slightly better than Daimaku minimum after transforming.
>>2162131>guard+75/65% dri think he'll be fine
>>2162129maybe they'll count the daima 4ku's cause of their intros
TOMORROW
WHERE EZAS
>>2162143I can finally get my 2nd int Nameku dupe.>>2162138This feels like a meme pick someone overlayed over the anime. We've had to wait too long.
finally time to no diff these frontier missions
new ginyu force f2ps, that's really generous
EZAreas are dead
please geppy...super eza...
GET THOSE COMPLETION STONES BEFORE THEY REMOVE THE EVENTS
>>2162151The "EZA areas are shit" poster won.
Reminder EZAreas are shit
>>2162153for what
>>2162154>>2162155KEK
>>2162154>>2162155kino
>>2162155thank you for your service. you can finally retire (from divegrass)
>>2162154>>2162155i kneel...
>>2162151I hope they give us time to grind the stones before the revamp.
>>2162150and they're tag units
>>2162163>tags with identical categoriesthank you geppy-sama
Ugh. I'm gonna stay up all night and not get Frieza. I already see it coming. I won't be able to pity either unless they lower it. I have zero faith.
>int frieza ezalet's gooo
Yappy
>>2162168They all NEED to be broken
So we get zero stones for the blue tickets right lol
>>2162168please let the piccolo be good
Omatsu? LOST!
>>2162177He has to be, there's no way they'd fumble him again
>>2162176Yup, lack of guaranteed stones was the deciding factor for all red
>>2162175nice there's an icon for them
>>2162168fucking finally, these must've been some of my first link levels
>retards thought it said "second wish" when it meant "second most chosen wish"DB fan reading comprehension
Who the fuck is picking kais
its Frieza by more than double the others
>>2162186New players totally would. I didn't expect them to be dumb enough to go for that over red stones though.
>>2162185I read it as that and thought it was either Kai’s or the link stuff. Who isn’t auto selecting the red stone
>>2162192The #1 choice would've been dragon stones which wasn't on the list.
I don't care about the poverty stones just say when the banners are.
>>2162193Oh fair, it’s 4:40am here tbf. Fuck this quiz
>>2162196I could be an asshole and post a picture of Freiza holding up his hand but I wont. Its 5 hours from now.
>I'm wearing pantshuh?
>>2162202japanese humor
Yeah, they're saving transforming/kaioken/spirit bomb standby/shirtless goku and FF > FPF for later. Gotta be stingy with the source material now.
>he didn't pick red
>>2162205FP Freiza has more than enough stuff tbf, going only FF freiza was better
They both look so peak, I don’t know who to pull for. If Int Future Gohan is on Goku’s banner I’ll probably lean towards him
>>2162211you gotta pull on goku anyway he has a new leader skill
>Goku's passive is for namek saga and not GFwhy
dokkan original animation Perfect Cell gonna hit like crack
>>2162205I don't mind for Freeza since his 12 ki could not have been better but Goku's is mostly the same moves the str TUR does and they still haven't fully recreated this Kamehameha while skipping to an original one.https://youtu.be/6qnyDcoytOA?t=119
Banners drop in 2 hours?
>>2162222I heard 15:00 on the JP stream so I think so.
>>2162222I'm pretty sure it's normal banner time yeah
>>2162205Not every goku moment needs to be an LR. The super class side of PNS isn't really brimming with dfe tur options.
How many stones have you saved and how many are you dumping?
>most likely getting LR Kid Buu as wellI think this game's power creep makes it unsalvageable but year 12 really has been a cool one for unit diversity.>>2162229I've got like 980, and I'll drop my 300 and see how I feel while waiting for part 2 news.
>>21622291700, will summon until I get Frieza. Not summoning on carnivals this time round due to them fucking up carnivals so consistently
>>21622291500 on hand, 100 in ore, and over 1k in untouched events that I saved specifically for DB or Namek on my main. I'm going to spread it out over the whole celebration to reach pity this time though. Anni made me learn my lesson.My side somehow has 3k right now and an extra 2k waiting to be claimed.
>>21622292500, I'll start with 750 on each banner
>>21622292200+Waiting on PNS buffs before touching Gokek's banner, aiming for Freezer's
>>2162258>japanese "humor"
>>2162258>X flagged it as adult contentOkay that's funny
str cooler status?
is there such a thing as too many options?
>AGL FP Frieza is boostedMight do that festival mission this week
Nitter picked the worst time to kick the bucket. I'm not making an account just to see sub EZA details a little faster.
HOLY SHIT THESE EZAS ARE CRAZYYYYYYY
Didn't watch stream. New units don't have EX Supers?
>>2162333>>2162229Probably saving it for part 2.
2nd form frieza
>>2162339Kinda wild that banner units can get 170% now
>>2162258I chuckled, as cheap as it was.
>>2162339>no supportgive me one good reason to run this shitter over king cold
>>2162344super detection
>>2162344Frieza's support
can't believe it took over 11 years to finally get a dfe lr final form frieza
DDL is out
imagine if they announced frontier like now while we are slated to get all those stacked namek saga cardswho the fuck thought it was a good idea to release it months ago when namek saga barely has anything
>>2162362It's more interesting because I imagine THIS is the Goku everyone saw when Frontier was in beta.
>>2162362It would've been another baby bitch mode that any reroller could beat. God forbid we have an actual mode for long term players. The bonus frontiers have been an absolute joke too. There was LITERALLY 0 posts in this thread about the demonic power frontier.
>>2162352Been asking for this exact unit down to detailsNow all that's left is premium 18 unit
>>2162373None of us cleared it.
>>2162373>mode for long term players>design shit like "clear this fight without taking damage" while you just have to pray you dodge 6 times in a rowHigh execution shit.
>5ami'll summon tomorrow
>>2162373I gave up when I couldn't kill Cell Max, the mode is gay.
>>2162373Frontier needs unit restrictions to work since they didn't make it an actual frontier where you have to pace out your resources.>>2162375The only thing I didn't do was the last Cell Max mission because I don't have str. I even grinded that terrible 2 turn mission for hours.
>Go to sleep>wake up>see characters>HOLY HYPE>login>no banner for another 3 hoursGEPPYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
I hate summoning since I have every like non new summon already at least 50%. Dragon stone 11 is the same way. Only one I've been chasing are the 2 newer Gohan trunks units.
>>2162396Have they not changed it that you can use rentals, remember cell max being fairly straight forward>>2162373I don’t really like the you can use anyone frontier and I think Gomah was a good example why, like it just feels like modern content where only 1 year old units/ezas can work well. I don’t really mind the breather but I do hope they move to android/cell saga, the namek missions were tough but honestly pretty fun to grind.
>no subezas in ddlaiieee
>>2162201https://ww.bandainamcoentwebstore.com/dbz-dokkan-ww/en
>>2162405They did but the guests for that node are still just the 2 Frontier f2ps.
>>2162379>1 stage>only attacks a single time per turn>only mission like this in the entire setwahhhhhhh you didnt beat it on your first try, boo hoo
>>2162433>slot 3 floater that only supports PNSmeh, str cooler stays
>>2162433not as good as Babidi but eh
>>2162433Is he just a better version the 2nd form banner unit? Like 70% dodge, 60% dmg reduction, what looks like good numbers and 45% support for honestly easier conditions.
IT'S UP https://www.youtube.com/shorts/UuViknEM6Y4
>>2162433Very strong slot 3 floater
>>2162405Survival mode is kino and I wan't to see more uses for it. Frontier is hit or miss.
>>2162418>a single time per turnHe attacks 3 times per turn, but you can just lie on the internet, sure.
>>2162455>heh he couldnt just screenshot the stage, he is a retard like I am!! -- HUHHHH?!
>>2162457>he thinks people complained about reacoomActual retard trying to discuss things with me, cute.
>golden fighters category is just ssj 1 2 and 3alright
>>2162464>ermm I meant the other stage requirement that doesnt event existLmao retard runs and cries about made up shit. Classic retard syndrome.
>>2162433If the devs think I'm sacrificing cooler's slot on the team for that shit they've got another thing coming, and he looks ass for frontier so it's whatever.
>>2162469How did you unlock node 14-1 anon?Asking for a friend.
it's f2p filler for newfags with an empty box i should hope it doesn't replace premium units
>>2162465Also LSSJ
>>21622290 stones and honestly looking at those kits I'll just wait for anni. banners always shaft me when I go in with less than 2k stones so if this is a three part campaign it's the best time to start saving and then go on a splurge in five months.
>it's another animated attacks with so many details they're impossible to enjoy on 2x speed episodeAnd that's my stones safe. Really wish the devs would just add the ability to toggle individual unit super attack playback speed already, if ancient shit like fgo can then they can.
>>2162155>upvote mekys
The node that requires you to beat it within 2 turns? Fuck off you brown mexican reroller.
>>2162493Here, anon, I figure you didn't tag me because you knew you'd roped yourself like the retard you are.Have a nice day.
>he is soomoning right away instead of waiting a couple of weeks for them to reveal part 2 units
>>2162502Scouter points are scouter points, hence my 300.
>>2162502Why wouldn't I try to buff Cooler's team yet again as soon as possible?
So... Cover is just the same thing as Vegito and Golden Frieza Taunt/Redirection? What is even the difference?
>>2162510The way it's worded makes it sound like he'll always cover those particular characters. If so, that means support characters won't ever be in danger.
>>2162510I don't think either of them have it, must be a part 2 thing.
>>2162490>redditard stealing a 4chan meme a tale as old as time
>>2162502lucklet post
well well well
>>2162579That's a lot of exclaiming.
>>2162579Hopefully he’s not dogshit at 55%
REV UP THOSE FRYERS
>no futurehan on the carnivalfuuuuuuuuuuck youuuuuuuuuu
>stuck on loginGET OUT OF THE WAY YOU GODDAMN MONKEYS YOUR FAT ASS IS JAMMING THE SERVER FOR ME
You can get a King Kai/Bubbles/Gregory drop down.I may be the first ever!
>Goku's bannerSKIPAROO.
Oh thats never happened to me before in like 8 years of playing. Guess I’ll drop a rotation or two on gokus banner
>Beerus&Whis into Super ShenronGot him first rotation!I'm missing other stuff so I might still go another round idk.Goku's banner kind of stinky so I think it's smarter to wait for the next parts and see if I can pity him either with coins or if they do a giveaway.
If they did it before, I must of missed it, but I like that they tell you the stats of the limit boost.
450 stones = Both new LRs and banner unit
>>2162501>brown skinned dogshit eating retard links to an entirely unrelated postyeah maybe if you didnt reroll like the brown skined mexican retard you are you'd have a point but you have to make up fake bullshit cause you're a smelly brown skinned retard
Seek help retard.
>>2162641300 with just goku, I'm relaxing until part 2 gets revealed. I only have enough to really fuck around on one banner and while Freeza is cool, I want to see all the angles. I assume they'll drop part 2 details before the 400 hours are up.
>>2162638SAME ANIMATION AGAINITS A SUPER SHENRON BARGAIN BINAAAAAAAAAAAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAI had 777 stones so I summoned and got him!!! WOOOOOOOO!!!!!
fuckin hell 850 for 1 frieza. 150 on goku and nothing. dunno if i should finish the rotation and keep trying for goku.
>>2162645>I'm brown!!Seek your own country spic ass. Shit skinned brown pos.
>>2162638>>2162648VERY nice haul for 350 stones GAHAHAHAHA!!
Seek help, retard.
Should I coin any of gamma 2 tag, Godku or hit? I’m leaning towards doing it for gamma 2 since drips missions fucking suck but that’ll probably change with part 2 cell
>>2162651literally me, 900 for 1 Frieza but 90% dead 10 pulls with 1 SSR trash in slot 10. Got a new animation with King Kai which was cool.I went 150 for Goku and got nothing.
>>2162662Only one of those I own is Hit and in no world should you coin him. Stacker who will get hit 33% of the time building up and die.
>>2162658>I'm jewish btw!!
1500 stones across both banners for 1 frieza and 2 banner frieza. No goku. No godku. 2 daima vegetas are new. Why do major celebrations always fuck me
>>2162686Bro, at least you fucking got Frieza. I only got Godku and 2nd form Frieza.
>fall for temptation to do another rotation since I don’t have Godku, gamma 2, 2nd form or hit>goku black riftOk I’ll take the message. 79% freiza in 300 stones is silly
WAHHHHHHHHH. I pulled the new frieza but I'm gonna still cry about this 1 single mission from frontier cause I'm a little baby bitch cunt. WAHHHHHHH
He needs to seek help now not only due to his retardation, but also his inability to parse separate individuals.>>2162699Good hit.>>2162686>>2162696D-don't worry bros, we have real pity for these banners. Just pray part 2 sucks.
>>2162702>I'm a retard. So I agree with retards.Great life skill. Its sure to get you far in this world.
>>2162702Part 2 has the new mechanic and futurehan on the carnival. I'm gonna end up going over pity no matter what.
Balance with crit/add with more leaning to add and zero dodge is the best build for freiza right ?
I think this is the team if you want to do all 3 missions for the SEZA in one go. I used the namek support memory and a ghost usher turn 1 so all the attack downs could pile up.
>>2162713>>2162715>Balance with crit/add with more leaning to add and zero dodge is the best build for freiza right ?It used to be full additional until some mentally ill fat fucker retarded sonofabitch overweight bastard decided he could waddle all over the place... fucker!!
1600 stones and pulled nothing worth a shit and hardly any featured
I cringe everytime they put women in the promotional materialswomen don't care about dragonball, much less dokkan.
>daimaku+ damage>can just sit slot one and tank 16m(?) supers turn one >broken team>kills gay ass mechanics like slot 0 stun>great animations>tauntI like him, don’t feel he’s not massively above what we’ve been getting though. Feel this GDCs powercreep will be a damage creep more than bigger enemy attack numbers. Maybe they’ll hp bloat events again during 12th anni. I also need to get some god equips for ext phy, the event equips kinda suck
>11th anni DFEs not featured because they were "featured" during TanabataThe Japanese playerbase WILL pay for this.
>only two porungas>so if you pick the limited keys you'll get 6, meaning you're stuck with 1 extra keyFirst the 6 dragon ore and now this, get your shit together geppy
Also “Panzy and Arinsu won’t be typical banner units” idiots, your thoughts?
>>2162229>neither of them raise defenseit's bait
It genuinely feels like new SSRs always have lower rates than the other featured characters
>teq MC got obliterated with full stacks+whisthe namek bejita fight in collection of epic battles is kinda insane
Units are aged on release what a shame
I can't believe the android 13 trio aren't on goku's banner. Gotta be one of the rarest carnivals in the game
>>2162940They're mid as fuck anyway so who cares?
>me a magatard incapable of building a team?!congrats, you're a fucking dumbass
>new Godku, Hit, Daimageta, and Kaio drop for Goku, 2nd form Freeza on my main in 1300 stones>insane luck on my side yet againMy only complaint is still not having int Saibaimen. I'm gonna save for part 2 now and pity Freeza later. He's not worth chasing when I have 2 rainbows and am only missing Gamma 2 on his banner.
I farmed pretty much the entirety of my remaining obtainable stones for this celebration. 2.6k stones used, and got neither of the new units. Pretty bummed out about this brehs, gonna go hit the gym and try to forget
>>2162775I think it was just 1 retard.
>everybody fellating new Goku even at 55% but NOBODY is talking about Frieza at allbros... DON'T tell me I got the worst unit like usual.... this is like SS4 Vegeta and SS4 Goku all over again... At least I got a 69% LR PHY Omega Sheneon...
Why are carnivals aids now?
>>2162999Huh? Frieza has a insanely busted ability nullifying negative effects for 4 turns Goku is just a random top 10 unit
>>2162999Frieza is better. Goku is a hype pig for a lot of people so they summoned more for him and has teams that aren’t mostly made up of units that have released within the past couple of months
>>2163005>>2163006Okay, I feel better now, Frieza looked "better" to me because I value tanks for difficult content over a a caveman that hits hard but Goku's animations look much better I admit.
>>2163007The only animation Freeza's lacking in compared to Goku is the 18 ki. The 12 ki is legitimately the best attack in the game.
>>2163002Because they released a stream of undertuned carnival LRs for Anni/GDC the past two years. The only great carnival unit performance wise has been UI so the part 2 banner will be a little more appealing but even then he’s fine at free dupe because of his kit. Then you have the dfe revival this year where they’ve started releasing legitimately great ones again like the tags and Godku and banner units in general
>>2162999Sir your Izzat?
>new Ginyu is a 170 leader for ext planet namekCool
>>2162999>NOBODY is talking about Frieza at allI literally just made a meme with him
>1500 stones>16 featured>0 lr frieza>0 godku>0 gammaccolo>3 teq frieza>1 omegaI got very shafted what the fuck, I'm more mad about still missing godku and gammaccolo than not pulling the new lr
Wait did everyone forget about the covering mechanic? Why don't the new units have it?
>>2163057>Another SSJ2 SHITHAN card where he covers like he did to protect Vegeta>Cell Jr. either with a new LR Cell or as their own card as the extreme version
>>2163057It’s a frontier only mechanic apparently. It looks more likely to be a part two thing, especially since we might get a android saga frontier
>>2162999Frieza is better, but since it's SSJ Goku and hero's are more popular vs villain units that's why people are sucking him off.Frieza will age better, has better defense and a better leader skill that will likely encompass LR Cell for Part 2 and Kid Buu for Part 3.
>>2163065>>2163067Either that or Vegeta when he's eating shit from Boo I guess. I'm still expecting a part 3 that takes up all of September.>frontier onlyI cannot imagine how it would be implemented if it's not functionally the same as a taunt with buildup.
>>2163074*October
>>2163065What if it's finally Bye Guys Goku covering the team by teleporting the enemy away?
>>2163074Could be like a mechanic that goes across the barrier of team or works on switching or something
>Ginyu GokuUnkillable>Recoomehow do you kill him, genuinely>GuldoUnkillable>JeiceUnkillable>Burterhas like a 50% chance to be unkillable, but is dodge or die otherwisethe weak link had to exist or the trio would be way too strong
>>2163073>static tank aging better than a dodge unithow many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man
Did they actually boost the FP Frieza and Nameku? They seem as unuseable as usual
>>2163121He only get's dodge for 4 turns before transforming. Frieza also gets Big Bad Bosses and 300 percent extra DEF for one turn on his taunt.He can also be ran at 170 percent on Metal Coolers team and synergizes well with Manga Frieza, allowing him to get his dodge support/team bufff off. Face it, all these things make him better overall. His taunt is better and his leader skill is better. Goku is just an attack merchant who will age if you don't count his four turns of dodge.
>>2162999both are good
>>2163131>170 percent on Metal Coolers team>doesn't lead Gomah or the baby at allMC shaft?
Global special battle seemed pretty easy compared to last years
>>2163131>manga friezayeah i'm sure that will age well. they don't even link. he probably has the worst, most limited "extreme king of the year" leader skill since agl fpf, while goku has a cool unique lead. dodge + better offense is guaranteed to age better.
What is the gimmick of this vegeta epic battle? Use taunt turn one and two then does dendees dodge turn off? Rainbow link level 10 Frieza is taking 900k from Gohan in slot 0
>>2163136You can literally float Frieza turn one.Goku's taunt is worse because he doesn't get extra defense and can easily die . Dodge doesn't matter as much for four turns as you think it does. Frieza has better links and will be runnable with Cell as as Sworn Enemy in part two and Third form Frieza. Two taunts with enough defense to tank vs Running two units with taunt that will kill you. You are literally a retard, especially when you can run him on better teams. Goku is literally better in base than he is transformed and his taunt is a liability. Also, you're wrong you retard. Because of his active skill he DOES link with Phy Frieza once he activates it. Learn what you're talking about before running your mouth dumb fuck and exposing yourself as a secondary who doesn't play the game.
>>2163137>survive till dendee's dodge turn off>use an active to kill him>spam whiz and hope for the best you don't get instagibbed by their supersI also used nurse chichi but I don't know if they take her debuff or not, these niggas were fucking oneshotting me through a whiz so maybe that helped
so why didnt they seza the LR Ginyus?
>>2163148>run him on better teams>manga friezalolfrieza gets extra def once, so in the future he'll survive for a single taunt or die turn, while goku gets at least 4. also more dr before attacking with a namek ally. you can run goku anywhere because it's goku, he's not limited to z villains.
>>2163155>Doesn't acknowledge being wrong>Moves the goal postI accept your concession. If you weren't a secondary you would've known despite being same name units they link after transforming.You literally had to disregard everything I said regarding his taunt being a liability due to less defense and some how bank on his 80 percent dodge for four turns. Sworn enemies literally includes all Z villains.You have no idea what you're talking about and are moving goal posts to justify being a retarded fuck. Kill yourself you brain dead secondary faggot.
>>2163148>can easily dieHe can survive a 15 million super or 21 million with the extra 10% DR. I think Freeza is better too but you're underrating Goku.
>>2163159>includes all z villainsyeah all those meta z villains we have like, uh...
so is someone going to adress this rigged fuckin nigger gabrage? is this supposed to be like this that the newest unit has the rarest odds? doesnt this go against nippon rules
>>2163161I'm not underrating Goku, he will simply age worse.A retarded thinking only about 80 percent dodge in a vacuum, vs better team, better links is more important. Doesn't matter if you can run him on more teams when you have slightly less teams with better options. >>2163165>Completely ignoring Cell for part 2>Ignoring Buu units and eventual Kid Buu>Ignoring upcoming EZA'sLmao, retard. Just accept you lost when you didn't even understand basic game mechanics.
>>2163171>you're ignoring my hypothetical units that don't existah, of course
>>2163172>I am a retard who can't employ basic deductionLmao, I bet you're a retard who thought GDC wouldn't be Namek for part 1 despite all the evidence because 'muh hypothetical'.Kill yourself as soon as possible. I can't believe I share a board with secondary scum like you.
>>2163177ah right of course, he'll get a bunch of teammates in short order, and if any of them age poorly his "team" will be unrunnable within 6 months. just like last year's gdc villains.
>>2163171I don't think it's going to be a wide gap one way or another. Goku gets to dodge for a while and nullifies the most common attack type in the game while Freeza gets way better raw defense for 1 turn and status immunity for a bit.
>>2163152I’m gonna attempt a no item, seems metal cooler might be the key but you also need an active skill to kill dendee or maybe SS Goku to taunt for 3 turns or a giant form to kill dendee then move onto vegeta as fast as possible>>2163179>Shenron was unrunnable after 6 monthsLol lmao, I don’t care about this argument but don’t make silly statements>>2163153Probably will do it when LR Ginyu ezas
>>2163179>and if any of them age poorly his "team" will be unrunnable within 6 months.Nice hypothetical you got there. Goes both ways anon, you can't say muh hypothetical to obvious stuff and cite it when it suits. You can literally apply this to any unit due to power creep. Not an argument. By that logic, you won't run Goku because Super will have more options and he will be a liability due to his defense. Frieza can already be run on Metal Coolers teamTry again retarded fuck. Or better yet eat a bullet as soon as possible so I don't have to argue with your dumb ass.
ai bots are arguing btw none of this is real
>>2163188it doesn't go that way for supers. blues and g4 were runnable way longer than shenron. you were the one shilling frieza as a leader when he leads nothing, and there's zero history of "sudden villain category glow up" teams aging well.>he will be a liability due to his defensesaid about every dodge unit and it's always wrong.
>>2163198>you were the one shilling frieza as a leader when he leads nothingAt no point did I say anything about him being a leader, I said he would age better as a unit.You are literally a fucking retarded gorilla nigger who has zero reading comprehension. Blue and G4 aged because of their kits, it has nothing to do with them specifically being Super Class. Tik tok, Kill yourself quickly. >Every dodge unitWhen did I compare a four turn dodge unit to all dodge units? Why are you comparing temporary dodge to units that keep dodge unconditionally?Why are you not kill yourself as soon as possible. Do I have to spell it out? KILL YOURSELF YOU STUPID RETARDED SUB 30 IQ DIGIT RETARD.
>>2163200you praised his leader skill multiple times, when it's virtually useless outside the immediate extreme team they'll give him. it's already arguably worse than metal cooler. goku's lead will be more valuable unless you think they'll stop making yellow saiyans, hybrids and fusions. 4 turns of dodge is enough for the vast majority of fights.
>>2163200Oh, I guess I did say that ONCE (>>2163131), not multiple times before you swayed the argument onto something completely different multiple times. Oh well, I've won five times in this argument and you won one time.Congrats, you are only 1/5 as smart as me and you managed to argue only ONE point despite failing multiple times on everything else. Your forget than running two of him means his defense for taunt is a liability.You lost retarded nigger. Your 1 minor win to my several. You are a nigger and should kill yourself now.
You really can't trust Dokkan World ratings anymore
Once again, I am fucking BEGGING the dokkan devs to do a better job of buffing old units that aren't due for an EZA/SEZA.The LR INT SSJ Goku and LR AGL FP Frieza debacle is the biggest proof that these devs fundamentally don't understand what they're doing in regard to buffing these units. They give them a limited time boost that doesn't even do anything. I have said this before, but Legends knows exactly how to do this. You can hate on it for it's other bullshit of course, but when it comes to buffing old units, they do almost everything right. Yellow Goku Black is the perfect example of this. That unit went from being complete garbage to literally being argued as a top 1 unit with his unique equipment. I also think character specific Ex-skill orbs aren't good enough to bridge the gap, or at the very least, they're not doing enough with it. It'll probably never happen due to Dokkan being ran on spaghetti-code, but they need a new way to power up characters. Honestly, they should copy what Bleach Brave souls did with their proficiency slots. It's a system that worked to power up all characters, and is able to make old ones more relevant. Dokkan needs something like that, maybe call it Legacy enhancement or something.
>>2163301You can't trust Dokkan World ratings since lowercase became a thing and he got addicted to making lolcows out of mediocre units.He is right about Goku and Freeza however.
Is the Broly/Vegeta animation guaranteed new unit or what does it mean?
>>2163168We have warned you about the seed... for YEARS
>>2163326Kaio, Gregory and Bubbles are the Zeno replacement for new units.Pan or Broly are just the new Trunks carrying Mai or Satan riding Buu for you're getting a featured.
>>2163319>He is right about Goku and Freeza however.The ! inflation is absurd he's just a regular hypeman now
>>2163360Explain how they aren't top 5.
>>2163367Look at how many ! STR Beast got in comparison you can't deny the inflation
>>2163381Oh, you meant in general. Yeah, he settled into a pretty dumb system.
Nyo my plan….They should’ve allowed this
>int Nameku 500k from a 2.4 million normal>1.1 mil from a 6 mil superWhere is the buff?
>>2163509Easily one of the quickest aging EZA's for one of the hypest characters on release. One of the reasons I didn't want Namek for GDC and would've rather it for Anniversary.At least Anniversary EZA's don't get fucked over.
AGL Nameku looks a bit depressing at 55%. Not too sad I didn’t get him, kinda sad I dropped 450 stones on his banner though. They’ve gotta start getting these carnivals right, they’re just looking more and more dogshit as time goes on.>>2163509I dunno, FP Frieza is basically doing the same damage as he was before the “buff” too, even his defence doesn’t look much better, maybe about 200k more on turn one.
>>2163515>>2163589I just had the frontier Nameku tank a 7 or 8 million super for double digits on his first turn. This has to be sabotage on WWC 2021.
Reminder that it's dokkan day so save your boosts.
>>2163589I'm hoping we get a proper Super Vegito LR along with the obligatory Gohan in the later parts to give Golden Fighters the juice it needs to not be dead on arrival.
>68 million 18ki from PB friezaaight
It took all the 800 stones I had but I finally got both of them. I'm so fucking mad at the amount of dead multis I've been getting on those major celebrations.Now it's time to save for Gohan and Cell.
i should really just feed all these carnival dupes there's no way i'm pulling enough free copies to rainbow these niggers
>TEQ Metal Cooler Army>TEQ Turles>AGL Gomah>PHY Metal Cooler>STR Final Form Cooler>PHY Final Form FriezaThis team feels like I'm cheating.
>>2163714>All of them have Big Bad Bosses>Turles has domain for Terrifying Conquers with buff to Planetary Destruction which Final Form Frieza is on >Two Giant forms from MCA>Remove negative first turn effects and then Taunt with FriezaActually fucking broken. Powercreep about to be bonkers.
>>2163717You forgot that phy metal cooler has a revive.
Awakening SA fodder is a humiliation ritual
>>2163737I have been cursing the update that slowed down UR awakening for years.
They really nailed the animations. Good old slow anmation, not that fast paced slop they did with the anni duos.
>Porunga can only be summoned twice >Porunga was only summoned in the Namek & Buu arcKid Buu is coming home...
>finally no-itmed the damn apeThank you coolest unit in the game.
give it to me straight anons, for an account that has every carnival except the int ss trio and cell max and is skipping gdc for anni is it worth grabbing daipa ss3 vegeta or is he shit at 55%?
>>2163778he's shit just pull him on 12th anni
>>2163758It's a lot more hectic than classic dbz. But they got a lot of iconic shots in so it feels more like they're reanimating the manga than tracing the anime.
>>2163779figured as much, ah well going to be a boring few months but better than wasting coins.
>>2163206>>2163210Uh retards Goku gets 100% active def for 1 turn. Their tanking is virtually the same on their taunt turn and after.
>>2163414wow that's bullshit
>>2163778>skipping GDCLiterally why? You can easily make over 2k stones from October to 12th anni.
Squadrasissies...
>>2163905qrd?
>5 daimakus>3 glorios>0 friezas>0 godkus>0 gamma 2THIS SHIT IS RIGGED WHAT THE FUCK
did nameku and fp frieza actually get limited buffs??? i can't even tell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7aVNF3Xgho&start=1225 LMAO
>so distraught at not pulling goku i didn't realize i randomly pulled lr piccoloNeat. Wish I had beast to give him more DR though.
>>2163896because I could roll into anni with over 2700 stones instead which locks in two sparks during anni on top of high odds of pulling at least two headliners and decent odds of pulling everything. my stone stash doesn't really exist right now and I've skipped gdc/wwc in the past specifically to chase them during anni. even if I've regretted it initially it's always paid off massively and unlike the past it's only four and a half months wait instead of eight. won't lie I really like the look of frieza but mathmatically I have zero chance of pulling him so better to wait.
>>2163962It's a difference of 1k stones or less and the trade-off is the main bread and butter units for half a year. You can crunch the numbers all you want but nothing will prevent a shaft, better to at least try somewhat even if you don't go deep.
Str namek goku is still my fav i hope his seza is good....
The cattle are starting to wake up to the 55% vs Rainbow performance gap. They’re only a year and half on worrying about it
>>2163991it kinda does prevent a shaft though when the 700 stones are the difference between having two sparks for anni vs only one. 700 stones is the average for gdc/wwc and that's about 190 coins for a vet account. vs pulling them now where probability wise I have less than 50% chance of getting anything of value. dokkan's one of those gachas where not having the big new toys for half a year isn't that big a deal anyway, it's a few dozen stones for missions I usually find so tedious I don't do em anyway.
>FoB is officially f2p fodderBased, that probably means FoB: Re is on the way though
>>2164095Guldo still needs premium teammates thoughbeit
>>2163933https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ganm28icaE
Will they be coming tomorrow? Also why aren’t they ezaing the agl FF frieza
>>2164119>one !so skip tier unit then basically.
>>2163923I dont play it but on /v/ someone summarized it like>playerbase gets called retarded by the devs as they change the entire gameplay
>>2164063It's noticeable on new units but not world endingly bad in content where you can use items for later phases.EZAs, however, just aren't cutting it. I've said since 10th anni if you don't have 2 dupes in the EZA, literally do not bother.
No itemed the epic battle vegeta.
>>2164177>turn one kill vegeta with taunt>turn two die with metal cooler>turn 3 hope gohan is supering after PB Frieza atk lowers him>krillin is dokkan event tier
>>2164182>Kill a 600m hp enemy with boosted defence turn oneFrieza is such a chad, is this not easy to do with TEQ MC though?
>>2164213I think Cell Max would be the easiest with how he works
What Skill Orbs do you buy with the bait banner tickets?
>>2164251I bought Gomahs since I have him at 2 dupe . Him, Majin tags or Future tags are probably the best to buy them for but you can get better ones in the whis event so I wouldn’t stress if you pick the “wrong” unit
They should let you sell equips for the whis event tickets and revamp the whis event shop so that you can buy certain equips. Like the best bronze or silver ones are 50 and the best gold ones are 75
>Golden Fighters>no Golden Frieza
>>2164086>700 stones is the average for gdc/wwcThe average is almost double, what are you talking about?>dokkan's one of those gachas where not having the big new toys for half a year isn't that big a deal anywayI don't really see the point in playing at all if you look at it that way. You can just login for a couple weeks during GDC/anni and be done with it.
>>2164132Has a free dupe showcase ever been more than that?
these ginyu force units are sick
>>2164333There's a lot of text so I haven't even done their hipo.Can someone drop the tl;dr for retards?
>>2164355full add on Recoome/Guldo and then your preference, full add or mixed add/crit on Burter/Jeice, full add and then dodge on Ginyu
>>2164333Frieza has the 3 new Ginyus, the SEZA 1st form and AGL FP Frieza is free with the red stones. Full and powerful team just by pulling him.Meanwhile Goku has the TEQ Goku from Frontier and not much else
What's ginyus solo and survive Stat stuff? That for the mode I won't ever do?
>>2164371I hope they make teq piccolo and phy kaioken good. I'm guessing we might see STR nameku SEZA next week as a surprise. I'm sure at the very least, Gohan and whatever EX/P3 we get will work very well with goku. It sucks that we probably won't get much value out of that namek category super class guard, but I bet he'll have better synergy with the upcoming characters than Frieza will with Cell/Buu characters. It's pretty typical that at least one of the new unit teams, if not both, feel a little wonky week 1. They tend to shape up as we go
>>2164380survival is dokkan frontier. it's piss easy now with the new units
>>2164371They shouldn’t have went with the namek conditions for either Frieza or Goku. In a nice world where we have nice things it would’ve been 3 Z heroes/bosses, in a world where people have proper thinkers it would’ve been 3 terrifying conqs/sworn enemies for Frieza and 3 super sayians/golden warriors for goku
>>2164392I wouldn't have minded the conditions if they just changed the 4 turns from first appearance to from start of battle
>>2164371namek word wide units aren't even worth using red stones on desu
>>2164409true, even boosted they feel like shit
>>2164411In fairness the boost is literally like a 5% boost in stats, it so pathetic. I’m pretty sure Goku Black last year was clearing 60m turn one
I don't have MCA or TEQ Turles. Does the new Frieza help in FoB at all? I still haven't gotten any stones from completing it.
>>2164409>>2164411>not thinking ahead to their 2033 SEZA
Supercucks will tell you Namek Saga isn't good enough for a major celebration btw
>>2164422frieza leads f2p guldo who stacks up to about 700m attack by the end
>>2164452Does he stack better than Cooler?
>>2164453with 5 namek allies he might but you can run them both
>>2164422yeah, just run a wicked bloodlines/namek team to knock out the ext int,teq and agl missiontime limit agl fp frieza, str cooler, int manga frieza and the namek f2p stackers like guldo and ginyu goku
>>2164466They can't all stack. If I slot 1 Cooler he'll one turn basically every phase.
>collection of epic battles>make stage literally designed to have the new frieza pull all attacks and shit on vegeta>have krillin guarantee stun you on superwhy
bruh
>>2164422I did my extreme run earlier with him earlier, his taunt is great. It does about 700m if you use an item and support
>>2164515Rotations/turn order? What stage did you pop items and did you keep track of dokkan attack?
>>2164528I was kind of messy, I guess if I broke it down >only consistent was Str Cooler on every turn and I tried prioritising him getting an 18ki and greeded a few vs the start and the 9 turn bosses by putting him slot one>Hidugarn was slot one for a bit until I noticed he was at 5m then floated him, transformed him vs M8 Goku>Phy FF Frieza was slot 3 non stop until vs Vegito at the end>Gomah and Dabura was complicated, I didn’t know who to keep in rotation to build up, Dabura was a 2.5m def by m8 goku, Gomah was at 2.6m by daima>Had FP Frieza slot one a lot but swapped him with dabura/gomah sometime in the middle >used first bulma vs m8 goku>used Gomah giant turn one vs daimas to super cancel>used a whis vs Gogeta turn one>used Dabura turn one and one cooler active vs Gogeta turn one, took 2 turns to kill Gogeta>used other whis and bulma>used FF freiza and other cooler active vs Vegito and one turned himLooking at it you could probably put dabura as one leader for extra stats
>>2164547I don't need an essayTurn 1:Turn 2: FloatersItem phase 1 2 3 4:
>roughly 2k stones to get one unitI'm skipping part2, these banners are ass better wait for anni
>>2164581yeah, my strategy for GDC/WWDC the last few years has been to make sure I have enough for pity, pull only on DFE banners and then pity whichever carnival I want more
>>2164581These part 1 banners actually had some missing units for me for once so I didn't mind throwing out most of my stones. TUR DDFs are the best skips.
Ezas when?
>>2164707probably like 3-5 days
>>2164289no way the average is almost 1400 stones, even 10th anni where they handed out the most ever was around 1200 or so, I remember that one vividly because I hit about 800 or so coins across the campaign and needed them. gdc and wwc fluctuate, sometimes it's closer to 700 and other years its closer to 1000 but it rarely exceeds 1000 and that's been especially true since they've started handing out several hundred stones worth of tickets.I will concede however that if this gdc has three full parts this time around we will likely get nearer double 700 than not but that's an exception not a rule. as for no point playing at all you're underestimating the stones you miss out on. I won't go into the number breakdown, just know that on a five month timescale the amount of limited time stones you get from dailies weeklies and monthlies alone exceeds 600 stones. even just logging in hitting roshi and whis up and logging out is over 440 stones across that time. when estimating all the smaller limited time stone pools skipping until anni likely misses out on close to or over 1000 stones.it's never worth just logging in during anni and gdc if you plan on sticking around, that's been my experience with other gachas as well. a ton of summons are handed out daily over time and saving adds up massively.
so glad I got friezahe's so fucking awesome
>>2164713>even 10th anni where they handed out the most ever was around 1200 or soThey counted stones on the old wiki. It was always 1100-1300 for both anni and WWC in recent years before they stopped.https://dbz-dokkanbattle.fandom.com/wiki/Worldwide_Celebration_Campaign_(2023)#Dragon_Stoneshttps://dbz-dokkanbattle.fandom.com/wiki/8th_Anniversary_Campaign_(Global)#Dragon_Stoneshttps://dbz-dokkanbattle.fandom.com/wiki/Worldwide_Celebration_Campaign_(2022)#Dragon_Stoneshttps://dbz-dokkanbattle.fandom.com/wiki/7th_Anniversary_Campaign_(Global)#Dragon_Stones>you're underestimating the stones you miss out onI'm not. I'm saying it's not worth it. Dokkan is a job if you're not trying to have fun with lots of different teams in relevant content.
>>2164481...Did you read Freeza's entrance effect?
>>2164722he loses it if you taunt
Check Twitter summon rates were wrong people gonna get refunds
>>2164993fuck off
teq Caulifla still putting in work
>>2165055I saw that itemless bejita run too, insane shit.
I think they will SEZA Namek Goku and EZA Angel Frieza before Part 2. They would both match the new units and angel frieza is on Sworn enemies.
>>2165081SEZA Str FP Frieza would be better. They’ll probably leave ezaing Angel GF for the RoF rerun at the end of the year since it would be a perfect partner for a GF unit
I would love if the p2 and p3 units are similar aesthetically to the namek units. It would be really cool if Gohan and Cell's super attack animations start above the clouds on earth and spiral down onto the cell games arena/destroyed arena, and then SS3 Goku and Kid Buu's animations start above the clouds in the land of kais and spiral down onto the field where they fought. would be kino
>got the friezas>still haven't cleared the frontier tranny missionsMy stamina is simply too valuable
>>2165189>Say don't like thing>Randomly include tranny for no reasonRent free.
They should give us a Krillin + Gohan or Krillin + Vegeta TUR like the ginyu force or awaken the frontier Dende to TUR or something. Super class Namek needs all the help it can get. Even if PHY kaioken and TEQ piccolo get immaculate EZAs, the team still needs help and they have like nothing left on the table besides a SEZA for STR Nameku, super early EZA for frontier units, or just giving us something brand new
>>2165228They should’ve never made their conditions planet namek saga. Gokus should’ve been based around Golden Warriors and Friezas on sworn enemies. Maybe one day they’ll learn to stop restricting units to sagas
>>2165233Yeah, I completely agree. If they're going to do this type of restriction, they should at least pad out the teams. Extreme Namek is coming along and has options. Super class has literally nothing in the pipe beyond what they've announced besides -maybe- another early SEZA and anything net-new they care to introduce. Pretty ridiculous
>>2165234This is what happens when you give an arc 6 celebrations in 12 years. Fucking Saiyan arc gets more support.
Hate this cunt so much. Just one turn I put you in slot one for the support
>>2165268His KO mechanic is why I’ve never considered him the best LR the past year. Daimaku has carried me more
>>2165264Yeah, it's obnoxious. Same name linking is definitely a problem for super class characters in the early parts of Z and OG DB, but it hurts even worse that they've had a terrible history of making the characters mediocre or even downright bad for Namek and Saiyan Saga. It's absolutely brutal that they decided to smash Scouter Vegeta's whole celebration with the 4/10 hammer. Imagine how much better the team could be if we got actually good EZAs for Krillin & Gohan, Vegeta/Goku, and Nail now. Also beyond stupid that the Ginyu force got okay EZAs a year ago to seemingly fill out Tao's team when you'd really never use them there anyway. There's a lot of gas left in the tank for Namek characters, but it's mostly extreme characters now. We still need a real Dodoria, Zarbon, and Recoome. Essentially every form of Frieza could get another 2 characters as well. We could (and should) get a real Nail, transforming Piccolo, and maybe some kind of support Bulma - but that's kind of it right now. They'd have to stretch things or do a duo to make Vegeta not an extreme unit
>>2165228Have they added Saiyan/Namek/Android saga to movie units like they did for a couple of the Buu saga movie units? That might help a bit.
DW is losing it
>>2165295That was a mistake that they’ve never corrected and just kept doing it to make it look like it wasn’t a mistake
>>2165296https://youtu.be/DfFxKpqeMD4?t=59AAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE!!!
why are the new banners so dogshit?this is gdc 2026 and we are still getting the fucking daima new years units on these banners
>>2165316Goku's could've gotten the int trio and maybe Futurehan but who better was there for Freeza's banner? 1st form Freeza would've competed with the SEZA if he got an EZA and the tag hybrids are nearly aged out.
>>2165316because the japs wanted them to swap tanabata and gdc celebration back
What are we thinking for part 2? Kinda doubt that we're getting more Namek.
>>2165338tag Goku/Gohan DFE that leads Golden Fighters, Gohan gets a Dokkan original active and Goku gets a bye guys standbyalso a standalone Perfect Cell carnival I guess, he can lead Sworn enemies and Artificial Humans
>>2165316Bad planning, bloated featured, eza banners and consecutive bad carnival releases. If they’re insisting on keeping a bloated featured then the banner still should’ve been capped at 9 featured>FF Frieza, 2nd Form Frieza, Daimaku, Omega, Int Broly, Gamma 2 tag, Godku, Hit, Str Nameku>SS Nameku, SS3 Vegeta, SS3 Kid Goku, ToP tags, SS4 Gogeta, SS Teen Gohan, SS Trio, SS Birdku, FP FriezaThese would be very, very good banners for new players while the carnival one is still dogshit for older player because they’ve fucked up so many carnival releases. It also contains recent strong ezas on the carnivals that older players might not have and therefore won’t feels as miserable pulling on the bannerThen my ideal world which also keeps in the reality that they’re retards and won’t rerun the anni units so close but cut the features down to 6>FF Frieza, 2nd Form Frieza, Omega, Gamma 2 tag, Godku, Hit>SS Nameku, SS3 Vegeta, SS3 Kid Goku, ToP tags SS4 Gogeta, SS TrioThat carnival still looks dogshit but holy fuck would your odds be better and more people be happy summoning. Then you have the biggest problem with the current format, a potential of 6 (six) of these dogshit banners back to back to back. 6 featured would’ve been perfect like such a no brainer. The cynic in me feels this shitty banner format is a business plan since it puts more of an appeal or exclusivity on the units, especially since we’re in an era where the gap in 55% to rainbow is so big. So whales will be happy with their 79%+ units (even though they’re getting fucked by the shitty banners) that most of the community won’t have, dolphins will feels the temptation to dip further in and f2ps will have shiny things to look forward to in anni banners and therefore more likely to stay. Thank you for reading <3.
>use Cooler in FoB>Gogeta explodes him with a normalcool
>>2165358Kino post that hits the nail on the head. I think I best we might stop getting banner units as featured on carnival banners if enough people complain, can’t see them cutting down dfe banners.>a potential of 6 (six) of these dogshit banners back to back to backI’m hoping a part 3 is just kid buu desu.
>pirated Sloppa Evolved>did not finish that shitYep, Halo is dead
>pull two friezas in 2 rotations>zero goku in 6ah well. time to save for Perfect Cell
>>2165381looked like shitwas tempted to get it just for shits and giggles of owning it on my playstation
>>2165296>kneeling Bejita
>>2165358>to rainbowYou guys keep saying this but the last 2 dupes are still fodder. 79% is still nearly undistinguishable even now.
>>2165328That's their narrative. They changed it back because the new schedule was bad for business. Too many high value banners and fast reruns, too easy to skip initial releases including anni.
>>2165439I prefer saying it and the there is still a stats difference which is bigger than 55% to 79%. It’s a weird thing to be picky about
I finally pulled Gomah-sama. One year of dodging me in every single banner.
>>21654781000 is bigger than 1700 plus a gold equip?
Oh no no no part 1 frauds are getting exposed https://www.reddit.com/r/DBZDokkanBattle/comments/1w3gv1b/this_is_straight_up_not_good/
>>2165493glad i went all in on frieza
>>2165493Not to play defense for this kusoge but isn't the whole idea to taunt and eat a bunch of beam supers for free?Waiting until this late just so he can get his shit pushed in seems like an odd choice for one turn of bigger damage.
Frieza and goku get virtually the same multipliers on taunt. Frieza gets 600% for 1 turn and goku gets 300% plus 100% from the active, so functionally 600%. Frieza gets an extra 800k def rainbowed from links and passive.
>>2165487Do you even realize what you’re talking about? You’re splitting hairs and making arguments over it, stop being an autist>>2165504>600% vs 400%Frieza also has better links and supports
>>2165513>>2165513>300% plus 100% from the active, so functionally 600%Oh I get it, does it actually work like that or is it weird math code ordering that makes it less?
>>2165513You said something stupid. Just own up to it.
>>2165516Active def is a seperate multiplier, so it doubles your def after other calcs. When receiving effects are additive with each other. Frieza's advantage is from def links, his own def support and possibly more team support.
>>2165451This is what I think, too. Too convenient for the long time players with lots of DFE and carnival coins. It was only 4 months and 3 weeks between end of anni and first banners of GDC. If we had foresight, predictable banners, and an ounce of self control, you could go for 1 copy or not even touch the banners and coin them in less than 5 months. Unless they surprise us and return daimaku and the int ss4s for p2/p3, we're back to the tanabata/black friday/bait banner return schedule to make sure no one can skip major celebrations
Wait, so are we skipping these banners? I was skipping because the banners don't look appealing but sounds like its better to keep saving.
>>2165612Friezas banner is legit
>>2165612Everyone on Frieza's banner but Hit and Daipa are solid and Friezxa is awesome even at 55%Avoid Goku like the plague
>>2165612WWDC/GDC banners have always been pretty mediocre. We've historically felt obligated to summon despite this because the debut units take a long time to return. This was particularly true on global before the sync because the WWDC characters didn't return until global anniversary which was literally 11 months later, so if you missed them you were legitimately fucked for a year. Last year we had the dream schedule where every unit besides saiyan day and tanabata returned in less than 6 months. Now, unless they surprise us, we're back on the jank schedule where the anni DFEs are "technically back" on the tanabait 99 featured unit banner but not actually back until anni again
>300 stones>black rift animation on the last stone multithat's what I like to see. with my cooler team at max power it's time to start saving for anni, especially since I'm basically out of stones. luck saved me this time but it won't do it all the time.
I can't stand fob
>>2165788Use Guldo
>>2165823Guldo is a normal merchant.
>>2165788I finished the missions two days ago. One run was taking me the entire day to finish
Eza info soon maybe
>int trio tanked a 10 million super before attacking at free dupeI may have underestimated them.
I can't make a golden warriors team without my own nameku...
Kaioken goku>2000% attack
Teq Piccolo>5% dmg reduction and 60% support for nameku
FF Frieza>dogshit floater
3rd form Frieza>85% dodge, greatly raises attack, 50% support for FF Frieza, Cell and Buu
My eyeball ratings are Kaioken - 4/10Piccolo - 6/10FF Frieza - 2/103rd form Frieza - 7.5/10Pretty mid batch
>let’s give all the units planet namek saga conditions again haha>let’s then split planet namek by super and extreme haha>let’s then make the super side unrunnable shit haha>let’s then not release anything for the saga in another 8 years haha
>piccolo gives 20% dodge to battle of wits allies for 2 turnsum
>>2166070Only if they’re planet namek saga
>>2166039Kaioken goku is actually the best one by far
>>2166090I think he has enough to be fun to now but he’s easily countered by difficult content not being one phase long and he’s chained to the PNS team. 67% dmg reduction with guard when nameku and piccolo is on rotation does sound like enough and he’ll probably shit out like 500m damage on his first turn but he also needs to be hit 3 times in slot 0. Too many things to set up for me to call it a good eza. Teq piccolo is a tiny bit more versatile and has good support, might be some interesting setups if the part 2 Gohan is Golden Warrior, Bond of Master and Disciple. 3rd form Frieza is just useful and will continue to be useful, 85% dodge is good enough unless they make the hard content AoEs. FF Frieza is a 2019 eza.
third form frieza was the one i was most excited about, damn. A single normal will evaporate him
>>2166099anon he's a slot 2-3 and then slot 1 on your taunt turn
>>2166118Ho I read it wrong, seems good then
3rd form freeza won holy shit. just slap max evade on him with some add and he's basically the perfect floater wicked bloodline were missing. finally my max link level rainbow copy gets to do something for the first time!Makes me wonder if we're headed towards another long meta though since all the recent releases including the new headliners get absolutely fucked by a fight that goes on more than ten turns.
What’s happening next week then? SEZA for STR Nameku and FP Frieza?
>>2166324We don't know yet. Could be them. We do know we're getting more dokkan frontier stages, so we could see another character from there, an awakening, or an EZA for the Krillin or TEQ Goku or something
>>2166344>EZA for the Krillin or TEQ Goku or somethingI’d hope we’re done with the days of ezaing f2p units within the a short span of time. I wonder if namek frontier was really meant to be released now
at least now teq piccolo will be able to survive a single turn in dokkan frontier right?RIGHT???
>lose RoG festival again to M8 Goku>fall for temptation to do another rotation on gokus banner for him or even ss3 vegeta>3x dead multis with only one <2020 unit SSR as the GSSR per multi>free multi has three SSRs including a teen gohan which have me a tiny bit of hope>can’t even coin the free multiWhy do I do this to myself>>2166324Based on the tickets panel, we are probably getting 3 missions for it this week in frontier, do an eza and db history. That leave two panels for next week so it might unironically be a slow week. This week doesn’t look great desu
>>2166398I mostly agree, but for me at least, this is the rare exception where I'd rather these units be good and usable (outside of frontier) now to help out this cool major celebration character than held onto for a long time and given a mid EZA down the road during a Dodoria celebration in 2028. I'm still holding out ultra cope that maybe with this frontier drop they'll give us a super class F2P unit on the level of the ginyu force units and make Dende a TUR or something. If Krillin + Gohan worked like Jeice and Burter and Dende gave bond of friendship, connected hope, or just PNS support like 10% dodge, 5% DR, or something along those lines the team could be really strong even without S/EZAs
Piccolo really closes the gap between Goku and Frieza, doesn't he?
>>216653160% support and 5% damage reduction will do that. It kinda limits him to the PN saga setup though while Frieza is just good on any team you put him on
Overall the units seem like they give great numbers to their teammates but are just okay themselves.Piccolo only having 50% dodge and 40% DR is death, unless I'm missing something.Kaioken Goku better put out historic numbers since his kit has NOTHING else.There's been this weird thing the last year where units are getting less dodge and less DR, I dunno if the stats make up the difference or what because we've had 70% DR units just explode.
These units get guard from goku
>>2166580It feels like their approach the last year or so has been gradually moving away from totally self sufficient, good everywhere for free, no condition units like STR Beast. Restrictions around category or class aren't new, and a ton of the 2023 units where plagued with some of the shittiest ones we've ever seen - but now it feels like the units and teams are designed to make each other viable rather than being totally viable as a baseline. Even busted Metal Cooler is essentially locked to 1.5 teams.PHY Kaioken and TEQ Piccolo can work, but it's because Goku gives them guard and you're expected to use the taunt to save them. Independently, all three of them aren't at their best and might not even work. It's fun to see characters have new levels of synergy beyond links, but on the other hand, team building is being squashed and restricted. It may also be making units worse overall, because (if they even do any testing or balancing), I envision they're thinking about them at their best and most optimal conditions and not how they'll actually be 50+% of the time when both of your Namek Gokus are on the second rotation. I imagine this is their approach to mitigating power creep, incentivizing more spending, and making units seem more impressive by doing things like "giving guard" - even though good characters should probably have guard to begin with nowadays. Blessing and a curse
>>2166056Kaioken and Piccolo can work if we finally start getting regular Namek releases.
>>2166672We will be getting super shit for the foreseeable future.
>>2166675I don't think a Kid Gohan or transforming Piccolo is out of the realm of possibility in the next year and then the teq LR could EZA.
>>2166675It's still baffling they dropped Beerus and God Goku when they did. I'm sure those characters were just scraps they had left over and they wanted to capitalize on the announcement hype, but I'm still floored. 0% chance they don't drop something when the anime airs. Hopefully they get creative with it and do a SS3 Goku that revives into God or something and a Beerus with a serious mode because it'd be downright comical if they did same names that didn't link with units they dropped 7 months earlier
>>2166680Probably had them sitting around and felt people might complain it doesn’t have remake stuff. My prediction for the realm of god remake is Whis and LR rage Vegeta with bingo active
>>2166689I'd be cool with that. I can't see them leaving Goku and Beerus out, so I'd expect Vegeta to exchange into Goku and maybe Beerus and Whis to be a tag, assuming they even care to get that creative
>>2166025Is this the rare full evasion unit? Everyone else has built in crit and no point in investing in evasion for but this guy won't link to reach a good atk stat and he would get very marginally tankier from an extra additional. I don't like that he'd get a measly 15% but the other options seem even worse.
>>2166717I'll wait and see how he looks when he drops, but I was thinking dodge > add for him with a defense bronze. one of those characters who's job is to hang out and not die. doubtful he'll cross the damage threshold on most of the new and tough bosses, so I figure crit is a waste unless he surprises me and is throwing up 40M+ once he's built up
People hoping for Cell Saga part 2 when we already got Cha La Head Cha La for part 1 and so we'll have We Gotta Power for Buu saga
>>2166835Legends got soul vs soul for their random filler ultra ss2 gohan, so if anything, I'd probably expect that as the theme for part 2. Buu saga isn't out of the question, but we have gone a long time without major representation for cell saga. I think the odds are also good considering collection of epic battles and ultimate clash are going in order by saga.
>>2166835I dunno why people bother denying it. Buu saga has one hype unit, no one really cares about the super side. SS3 Goku and SS2 Vegeta have a ton of recent cards, if anything part 3 is more likely to just be kid buu
now that several months have passed what the fuck was the point of his release?
>>21669701. to make money2. he'll continue to be a decent 4/5/6th option on realm of gods
>>2166970to make way for the best banner unit since str Piccolo
>>2160866New Namek Piccolo unit incoming
Gohan/Goku will be super INTCell will be extreme AGL
>>2166835We need an elite LR Perfect Cell with dokkan animationsthrow in a LR Kid Buu for part 3 instead
RoG festival is so miserable. Fucking 99% of the good units are unarmed, I’m sick of losing to kid buu
They need to add save points in FoB, I'm sick and tired of losing to fucking super attacks.
>>2167054oof, I haven't really tried it yet and didn't even think about that. If you're using the blues, maybe try swapping to Vegeta and running him in slot 3? I imagine his 18 ki would hit pretty hard by that point. Can't really think of any other change other than praying or running some dog shit
>>2167054>more festival missionswill be my last stones grinded in my darkest, most desperate day if they ever do a DB LR.or if they do renewals like EZ Areas I guess
>>2167087I was thinking that or using agl godkus active. The main problem is I lose concentration sine my festival runs are typically over the course of an entire day
>>2166835They'll give us Buu and Vegito just because they can
It'll be pretty funny if Str Beast gets kneecapped by being restricted to a certain category or having a Piccolo on the team when he EZAs
why are the current redstone selections dogshit when the 10th anni literally let you pick any 2016-2020 dokkanfest, what the fuck happened?
Has anyone used a full extreme team with the new guldo to beat FoB? What rotations and who stacked?
>>2166970Crossover is the most fun category in the game, this is an apology for robbing us of it last year god I hope we get something in the normal time slot this year, at least to eza the limit breaker vegito
Wow what a fun video game
FRIEZAAAAAAAAAAAI WONT FORGIVE YOU FOR NOT KISSING MY WIFE!!!
I fucking love PuiPui.
>>2167869i wish i had more dupes for mine. he's on 55%
>>2167869I loved him for 2 minutes when I started using before I got my first 2 million super turn.
>>21678963 dupes in mine and excited for whenever the last one drops.>>2167901And then he's an orb changer with 70% dodge, 30% DR+guard that's stacking, plus a scouter. What a legend.
>>2167911That dodge failed me many times too. Puipui is a meme unit and not even a viable one like Saibaimen.
>sub-EZAs all in 1 EZBRIP super class Namek arc, you were only given 3 units.
>fuckwits putting dodge on friezaREEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>2167647This is why I still haven't touched it. Literally needs to be powercrept to be bellow story mode tier before I invest any time into it.
I fucked up and used my whis all vs Gogeta for some reason. Please dodge
>>2168222>used my whis all vs GogetaMakes sense, Vegito never beat anyone. Gogeta is the real menace
>>2167969hah just came here to complain about that. >unit is tank>unit requires being hit to crit>"durr lets reduce their ability to get hit and give them no crit"at least once we get dupes on the rerun we won't have to use the retarded truth cocksucker support leads ever again.
the new namek EZAs are looking like trash
>>21682893rd form is looking amazing at least. reliable evasion and cracking multiple 40m+ crit supers a turn by his third appearance on top of juicing out lr frieza.
>>21682893rd forms base damage is a little low but it builds up to something ok and 85% dodge is good for a support. Think he’ll just be an auto pick for the sword enemy team by the end of the celebration but it just makes me wish even more Frieza taunt and as sworn enemy not planet namek. Also Frieza was breaking 650m guaranteed crit beside him and LR 1st form so that’s broken. Thats not even considering the counters, if LR Frieza has that turn vs an unarmed boss they could probably nearly wipe a 2bn boss turn one.
Is this all we’re getting for the rest of part one? Seems underwhelming. >>2168222I won btw
>which eza is best>the only one you don't have rainbowed, retardStory of my life.
Arinsu has about 1990% max attack in her kit, Kaioken Goku has about max 3050%. Arinsu does about 150m on her god turn, not taking into consideration base stats and links and all that stuff, Kaioken Goku I predict he will hit about 225m on his ideal turn
>>2168404>I won btwTold you >>2168268 vegito is a loser
Dogshit to the suprise of no one. Only positive thing about him is I forgot he links with Frieza when taunting
>>2168459Surprised your maths actually kinda worked. Seems like he goes from around 194>209>225 if you get all additionals.
Kinda underwhelming WWC characters. Last year had way better characters.
>>2168617Performance wise? Or character choice? Grass is always greener around here. I remember people couldn't race to leddit/twitter/here fast enough to shit on the zero fusions plan units for being underwhelming last year
>>2168617>doesn’t remember the screaming matches and shit flinging around the future tags. I do think one thing last year had that was more I treating on a whole in part one was the goku black and zamasu fight, the epic battle stuff is kind of like peppy gals
>>2168630Oppsie
>>2168617Rose was bad for his slot and Blues were dodge monkeys. This year is one of the best.
>>2168617>underwhelming>units that Dokkan have actually catered to in the build up rather than drop them and hope they work
>>2168725I don't know if Namek Goku is all the way there yet, but he's certainly good. If you have all the pieces, Frieza is dropping onto one of, if not the, single strongest team in the game's history.I worry a little bit that Goku will ultimately end up relegated to floater status/PHY Gogeta role and only be run on someone else's team sooner rather than later. Not the worst fate in the world, but the PNS-focused restrictions and the shallow pool of helpers he's getting (who are also exclusively PNS focused) is a bit concerning.
>>2168283The problem is that barring additional both other options suck.Crit is redundant without dodge since you will build it up and hipo crit is less additive to passive crit. Dodge is less redundant but might fuck up your ability to proc crit but you might dodge a super. They should've just done received AND evaded. Regardless I gave Frieza 20 additional and 21 evasion.
>>2168751crit is fine for getting some occasional crits outside the taunt or getting hit 5 times. why would frieza need to dodge a super
>>2168753Because I like building my units so I don't have to build them again or waste stones or equips. In the long term when he does eventually EZA in several years they will probably make it received or evaded. Plus when powercreep hits or you run him off Namek saga you will want him to dodge in base before his active.
>>2168754i'm not bringing him without his full passive especially after creep. not gonna gimp him now for a nonexistent scenario.
>>2168732He has Golden Fighters and it's not going to be restricted like the part 2 DFE. Goku is lasting until 12th anni minimum, maybe longer.>>2168751Crit isn't going to sabotage the whole unit and it's 2 nodes. This rationale is retarded.
>>2168759Oh, I agree. I don't think he's going to age out or perform poorly. I'll just be disappointed if he doesn't get to be the star of the show for a while or have a strong team that lets him live up to his fullest potential.
>>2168758>not gonna gimp him now for a nonexistent scenario.All units get powercrept eventually. By that logic, you might as well not use him at all since he will eventually he will be crept and you will have to redo his hipo. That's not nonexistent, just fact of the game. >>2168759>Crit isn't going to sabotage the whole unit and it's 2 nodesIt's two nodes of redundancy. And I don't see much point in additional beyond 20, so with god equips you still have 15 points to burn. 15 points of crit are equally as redundant when taunt means guaranteed crits on that turn. Still who knows, I'll admit I didn't feel good about giving him dodge either but I really dislike redundancy on units.
>>2168764taunt isn't guaranteed crits depending on boss rng. more additional rolls = higher chance to super, no reason to take the others when he doesnt need them.
>>2168762He won't get the 10% DR but that's about it, would've been a different story if we ended up getting SEZA Nameku after all but he doesn't need it to tank.>>2168764>I don't see much point in additional beyond 20Additional has the most potential of any hipo and built in supers augment it. An extra 10 levels on Freeza post transformation brings it up from less than 50/50 to almost 70%.
>>2168768>taunt isn't guaranteed crits depending on boss rngI find it hard to believe with taunt active in modern content and enemies doing a billion attacks you won't proc crit with 20-21 evasion,>>2168769>Additional has the most potential of any hipo and built in supers augment it. An extra 10 levels on Freeza post transformation brings it up from less than 50/50 to almost 70%.This is true, but if you have built in additonals you have a higher chance of proccing hipo additional anyway and it's still a coin flip for supers even if you proc it. Still I might change his hipo regardless. My OCD is making me want perfection.
>>2168777>and it's still a coin flip for supers even if you proc it. The numbers I gave were the super chance. If you include normals, it's nearly 100%. Having 3 attacks before the hipo is that strong.
Now that HiPo is permanently 1 stone per node, I'm less worried about changing up investment. It should be 0 stones honestly, but I can live with 1. The bigger thing is how aids it is that the elite equips are not reusable. I've farmed the Whis event a ton and have a few of them, but I hesitate to use them because it almost always feels like a waste even for the best of the best characters
>>2168777most enemies don't do that many attacks. more often than not i can't take 5 hits unless i go in slot 3, and sometimes that's not enough either like in both my treeku runs with him.
>>2168780What would you say are the optimal nodes and equips for Goku and Frieza? Making out add and then crit? Would you do add & def equips for silver and gold slots?
>>2168780Problem is you have additional calculation and then the final calculation is still 50 percent for super or normal so even if you increase additional it will just increase your chances proccing an additional but does nothing for your super chance.The end calculation even if you have enough to pretty much guarantee hipo additional is still 50 percent. If 20 additional is 40 percent then with two other additionals that guarantees the proc. It's still a coin flip regardless. If I am wrong please tell me, I'd rather adjust my build to be better if so. I am leaning more towards c
>>2168795More towards crit. >>2168785 This anon makes a valid point.
>>2168795>the final calculation is still 50 percent for super or normalno it's not. every additional proc does the 50/50 roll and if one of them lands on a super it overrides the others.
>>2168798Source?
>>2168798I believe this was disproven. Even anecdotally, if it worked this way, you should almost never see a character like the Gamma 2s, STR Cooler, PHY Cooler, Metal Cooler, etc. do an additional normal, but they do it all the time. I know for sure that each attack rolls a chance to do the additional itself - but I believe HiPo triggered additionals are always a single, final 50/50 roll once it's decided if you're getting one or not
>>2168809Yeah I thought so.I was wrong though. 30 additional would give you a 6 percent chance of failing to proc an additional attack20 would be 21.6 percent of failing with 3 additional. Honestly, diminishing returns on hipo is getting to be really fucking annoying with how calculations are done with passives and hipo.
>>2168809str cooler goes full crit so you're likelier to see a normal. with the others the hipo add is almost always a super.
>>2168751Crit isn’t redundant. Maxxing out additional is more redundant since he gets 3 so his chance of getting the 4th is nearly guaranteed with like 15 add. Having crit is important since his base has none and there’s a chance he won’t get hit 5 times before supering on the taunt turn. Any dodge on Frieza, especially now when he tanks literally everything, is ruining your unit
>>2168848I think the decision is a little more straightforward towards crit for Goku and Frieza than a lot of units because they don't get anything lasting out of the 12 ki. If they even got 30% def or attack for 2 turns, it'd be a different story.Super effective against all types is nice, but the damage from a crit is literally night and day against an SE attack. With neither having crit in base, and a lot of fights being multi-stage means you won't always want to transform as soon as possible (especially with goku) and I don't want to be entirely dependent on enemy attack RNG in slot 0 to get damage out of my big damage characters
>>2168848The problem is Frieza will do better for crit chance against units that hit more. If you get hit once or twice then hipo crit will calculate higher than crit if you get hit say four times due to diminishing returns. 15 add at 3 additionals is a 65 ish percent chance of procing it. Honestly I don't think it really even really matters. Dodge is only a 20 percent chance, but you are right in that crit is better if you get hit less.I don't even think it ruins your units. It just confirms that beyond stats and built in additional + additional in hipo, hipo is actually shit and the raw stats you get from dupes is often much better. The chance to proc a super or another attack is still far more valuable with built in additionals though just due to the calculation chance with guaranteed additionalsBasically, Frieza is better in fights where enemies hit a lot. Crit would be good if it's enemies where they don't hit a lot.
>>2168869This is also assuming that you're always going to be sitting him slot 1 outside of the taunt turn. There are going to be times where you're probably going to want to make sure he goes in front of the most attacks or the super to cover for other characters. In those scenarios, you'd only have a chance to crit on the counter if it's a melee super attack and you roll the 70% chance. I'm leaning more and more towards crit > add for them as I think about it
>dokkan finally using the trunks/Gohan style animations>will likely switch back to plasticy shiny style again when the shitper remake comes out Pain
>>2168932I think they'll keep alternating.Meta cooler, for as good a unit as it is, has the most disgusting, grainy intro in the game.Supers are okay, at least.
>>2167969Brings back memories of faggots putting dodge on TEQ Zamasu
It’s ogre, please no more. I also hate the ss4 tags
>>2168986Still waiting for powercreep so immense that one unit can simply one shot every single phase, personally.
>>2168986Post teams and rotations
>>2168988Rotation 1: stackerRotation 2: stackerFloaters: The carriedAbilities: use them
>>2168989Faggot
>>2168986It’s so bullshit they aren’t on going to be on the part 2 banner. Fuck geppy for crippling me with feeble no dupe monkeys for an entire year
>>2168990Fine>super one Don’t remember >ext one (just use guldo and Ginyu instead, also use dabura or gomah as leader)Rotation 1: FP Frieza and CoolerRotation 2: Hiru(till 5m)/Dabura(till 2.5m)/Gomah and CoolerFloaters: Frieza and whoever doesn’t need defenceAbilities: Hiru vs M8, Gomah vs Daima for super protection, Dabura vs Gogeta, Frieza vs Gogeta or Vegito, one cooler vs Gogeta, other cooler vs Vegito>RoGRotation 1: Godku and VegitoRotation 2: Gods and BluesFloaters: UIs and AGL GodkuAbilities: Godku vs Daima, Blue Vegeta vs Daima, Transform gods vs Daima, Evo Vegeta vs Gogeta, AGL Godku doesn’t matter use whenever, use Vegito to finish off Gogeta and one turn Vegito>Power of wishes Rotation 1: SS4s and Buu SB (until 14m)/SS4 spirt bombers/Buu SB(when vs M8)Rotation 2: SS4s and SS4 GokuFloaters: Godku, KaikuAbilities: Kaiku vs Daimas, swap one SS4 tag to Goku with int orb vs daimas (don’t active just attack), Godku vs Gogeta, Buu SB standby, SS4 SB if they’re on rotation, swap other goku with int orbs vs Gogeta (don’t active just attack), SS4 Goku actives vs Vegito, buu bomb if needed
>>2168990do you really need more than this? whatever he specifies, it still comes down to stacking each turn and killing daima and fusions before whis/icarus run out. at this point killing daimas itemless is not hard either. there's a limit to spoonfeeding, at some point you have to actually swallow the damn food yourself.
>>2169015Yeah everything is easy until I don't proc the 5 crit turn you needed to clear whatever phase you won on.
>>2169021Nothing requires you to crit, most active that you’ll use have guaranteed crit. You should be aiming for overkill, not just about kill.
>>2169023Have you played FoB? The variation in damage between crit and non crit is everything you fucking moron.
>>2169021every single mission can be cleared using friend vegito who was designed for this event on release. he even leads enough extreme fillers like agl namekgeta, teq raditz and int broly who work fine with whis, let alone newer and better units. as long as he transforms against gogeta and actives against vegito, you win. you can use any other actives you need to kill daima.
>>2168987can already be done with the teq wrathful broly setup as long as you have at least two dupes, you're okay using atk up items and domain shenanigans with the other brolys
>>2169040Mine is at 79% so I could give it a whirl. Maybe one day when I'm terribly bored.
3rd form frieza was one of my first rainbows and i put 0 dodge on him...
>>2169057good, he gets the equivalent of 30 dodge with every additional only obese retards go full dodge on units like that
>>2169063He gets 10% additive dodge per additional, stop overcomplicating shit.
why do they always announce idbh a week in advance
>Beerus is 6 Episodes >October 11th to November 15th>Resurrection F is 6 episodes >November 22nd to December 27th>Champa is 7 episodes>January 3rd to February 14th
>>2169093Oh boy rehashed content of rehashed content!
>>2169093they don't do new units in january
>>2168751>>2168283 (me)Na both options don't suck, only dodge sucks. other anons have already pointed out he has no crit prior to transforming, but even playing the longterm game regarding powercreep by the time he's going to need to be able to dodge attacks to survive he's going to be demoted to slot 3 which means he's simply never going to deal meaningful damage without a crit build and will still sell runs the times the enemy targets slot 3 for a super he cant handle the majority of the time. The smart longterm investment is max crit with a dash of add and accepting that in nine to twelve months time he's past his useby date and demoted to slot 3. that way he'll deal great damage pre taunt and consistent damage even when the enemy only hits you 2 to 3 times in slot 0 today. instead of doing what I'm seeing all these max dodge supports do right now which is selling my speed mission clears in blue zone stages because he dodges half the attacks targetting slot 0 and 1 and then doesn't crit during his godturn murdering his damage output.Dodge is rarely worth touching and is a trap especially for this frieza but also in general. few units actually make it work. the irony is the only type of unit that wants dodge investment is usually dodge tanks like tonights eza 3rd form frieza, units where they dodge high enough you want the paltry extra percent chance to dodge and they have enough add and crit built into their kit they don't mind not maxing one of those two out. I've been building my units for years with all that in mind and I've yet to even need to respec a unit upon its eza because of it.
>>2169093>new tag beerus and whis october>new golden frieza end of november>dual dokkanfest champa and whatever nye
>>2169093>This time Goku LOSES the Universe 6 tournament>Earth gets transported to U6 and the next arc is them on a journey to defeat Champa and get back home>Champa is now on Big Bad Bosses
Currently trying to finally beat the Bulma Peppy Gals boss and this is the worst fight ever designed. It's pure fucking RNG and the requirements are absolutely ridiculous. I lost 8 times in a row due to rainbow orb RNG, finally made it to the next phase and lost because Android 21 did 3 additional normals and no supers.
>>2168786Goku is tough because he gets 50% crit late into the fight and super-effective is kinda shit now, but an additional is an extra 150 million at the same time. I'd try to aim for 25 add and 20 crit including equips but you'll have to work with what you get from god equips, Union Master, etc.Freeza is full additional with the rest in crit. It's not as much of a waste as it seems because he also only gets the crit after transforming and you have to build it up every turn even after the taunt.>>2168809>I believe this was disproven.You have to bring some actual evidence if you're going to go against what data miners have been saying for years.>Even anecdotally, if it worked this way, you should almost never see a character like the Gamma 2s, STR Cooler, PHY Cooler, Metal Cooler, etc. do an additional normal, but they do it all the time. Personal experience really does not mean much here but I will admit it was said at one point that additionals based on ki happen after hipo rolls.
>>2169093>>2169142>skipbait from end of GDC to anninice>>2169127>units where they dodge high enough you want the paltry extra percent chance to dodge and they have enough add and crit built into their kit they don't mind not maxing one of those two out. Nah, 3rd form still wants additionals and crits over dodge. The only dodge investment units are dodge units that don't have enough in their passive like the new Piccolo or SEZA SS3 Goku and outdated shitters who will never EZA/SEZA.
CONTENT in 30
int ginyu is actually coming up on 2.5 years...
Why did they gimp battlefield into a glorified dokkan event
>>2169318They did that years ago. The last hard season was when Broly or GF was introduced.
>>2169322It was still harder than this especially the 100th
>boss randomly gets crits and a gorillion attackWOW I LOVE DOKKAN I LOVE THAT MY UNITS DONT WORK ANYMORE WOO
>tagging removes debuffsSince when
So you need both Frieza and Goku to beat this new fight lol
>>2169357Who, ginyu? I only needed frieza, don't have goku
3rd form Frieza >>>>> Kaioken >>>> Piccolo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Final form FriezaMid ezas
>>2169370I was guilty of hyping up Kaioken. Seeing him do one bar of damage vs SS3 goku has convinced me he’s a meme character. He should have got guaranteed crit for that turn
battlefield ginyu and str nameku sezas will save us
Still not seeing the point of this battlefield change. I use a box anyway because it's easier than filtering 2000 units. The stage format adds nothing. I guess having some permanent stages lets newfags get more memory but that's about it.
>>2169414It stopped giving 6000 memories every week...
Why was Dokkan world running Agl Gogeta in his Kaioken showcase? Thats like when dafatty ran kid buu in his showcases
>>2169164my only hope for the anime was to just change the dogshit future saga endingmake it so that Trunks kills Zamasu in his universe form with some retarded asspull and end that arc right fucking there.they can leave the rest of the dumb shit in super intact, I don't care.
>>2169620Toriyama missed the most obvious solution which is to wish away his immortality. He destroyed the balls in his timeline but if the balls can't affect other timelines, they could somehow drag him into theirs and then wish it.Or Trunks could destroy the "mortal half" goku black which still leaves zamasu immortal but weak enough to restrain.
>if you disable the 4th bonus sticker effect it will use the normal sticker effectLooks better for some of them imo.
decided to give teq gogeta a whirl in that joined forces ginyu stage mission and I regret to say that boy (obviously) does NOT still got it. took 60k from easy normals lol
this is a retarded issue to complain about but why did they skip over this characters special effect, Fucks sake they gave nail a special effect but not him?
>>2169620Last fight of the arc should’ve been a tired Goku Black vs Trunks. Merged Zamasus fusion should just come undone for using too much Dragonball energy via the amount of resurrections done then Zamasu should’ve been brought back to U7 or Zeno to be erased from every universe. I hope they won’t take some of the bad stuff from the manga like trunks being able to heal moment
>>2169687>I hope they won’t take some of the bad stuff from the manga like trunks being able to heal momentthe whole arc went to shit when they are almost at the end but that was particularly shit.it's "clever" that they found a new way that's not just feeding them beans to replenish their stamina and it also gave Trunks something to do but god it just screams bad asspull the entire time.>>2169636>Or Trunks could destroy the "mortal half" goku black which still leaves zamasu immortal but weak enough to restrain.I like this part even though I also hated it, this is clearly Trunk's fight and I loathe to see anyone but him ending it but I guess it's a way better ending than what we got.
>try ginyu event without frog>literal joke>turn 3 vegeta>7.2 million crit normal on my 95% dodge 3rd form FreezaAlright let me look up the gimmick, guessing you frog right before the vegeta phase.
>>2169707Yes, it’s pretty boring to do properly.
>>2169707He hits for 15m with crit after the third turn.
>>2169420I never did that. 300k memories in a whole year is fucking nothing.>>2169620No point when the rest of the arc is still shit and Trunks' character is already ruined.
Why…
>>2169759I don't blame people entirely, dafatto begged and screamed until the devs made this the meta so now everyone thinks we're still stuck in it.They're not entirely wrong, unfortunately, with units that released TODAY being dodge or die.
>phy kaioken "big turn", after 3 hits, drenched in support, slot 1, rainbow, god equips, full crit & aa>does a 161m non-crit super and a single non-crit normal for a whopping 4/5 of one boss health barwoah...so this is the power....of the GOD turn...truly busted EZA
I hate this slut so fucking much
>super class namek is almost sort of good enough but only has 7 real options because of the time limited buffs>we might not get another option to replace him>even if we do, we still have to run STR Krillin, TEQ Gohan/Piccolo, or TEQ LR Goku>can't use phy kaioken or teq piccolo on any other teamplease save us geppy
>>2169769>they aren’t wrong>his non taunt struggled to kill agl Ginyu and relied on PB Frieza because no crit>my non taunt killed str Ginyu in two attacks because they crit once>his Frieza dodged an attack when vegeta stuck most of them in slot 3 and missed two crits and struggled to wipe 3 bars off when beside 115% support>my 79% one wiped 6 bars alone with just manga Frieza No crit will put you in a worse position than no dodge in current content
>>2169793Anon maybe you should try reading the full post and go again.I agree that in this case, dodge isn't working, but we've been conditioned for ~3 to 4 years now that you need dodge because most units simply cannot stand up to a super even after taking their turn.See: INT Freeza, TEQ Piccolo who EZA'd just now. If 90% of the units in the game need max dodge to be viable, it follows people would just default.
>>2169793Why are you killing the Vegeta?
>>2169799Pointless title
>>2169771This but unironically. No EZA this year is outdamaging that turn if you proc all the crits and AAs.>>2169794>If 90% of the units in the game need max dodge to be viableincorrect premise
>>2169846All 4 EZAs out right now will die to a super from current endgame even after taking their turn if they don't dodge, no?
>>2169850Only 3rd form Freeza who already has enough dodge in his kit. The rest can at least handle a 10 million super or slightly more in a very good scenario and then they get bailed out by taunts.
>>2169850Kaioken can survive a 32m super on in slot one when fully built up, FF Frieza can survive a 13m super so a 26m super from a phy enemy. Piccolo and 3rd form are pure supports so they aren’t gonna be tanky, you want more a little more add than dodge on 3rd form to maximize his dodge chance though
>>2169769I looked at a lot of units last year and I wasn’t spamming full dodge on them. The real problem with people doing no crit on this FF Frieza is that his base is doing 240m overall and they aren’t even SE if you don’t have another Frieza on rotation. 240m with crit is significant and it can save you using your taunt early or having to rely on dodge or die.
>>2169853Fair enough, I just can't fathom the numbers anymore. I saw 49% DR on PHY Kaioken and thought he'd be more vulnerable than 70% DR MV, but I guess he has multiple times the defense.Would be great if we could easily discern a units viability in game instead of needing external calculators.
>go back to do frontier again>to the surprise of nobody, the 2 new GDC cards completely trivialized the whole thingthe horror and suffering I felt back when namek saga frontier first launched felt like a cheap joke now.
I think I’ve gotten two bronze god equips since whis event updated. That must be about coming up on 1200 runs of it
>>2169876If Frontier dropped with this celebration, people would have been excited. Now the entire mode is irrevocably tainted because it was pure bullshit when it debuted.
>New cooperation stage is based around an INT character debuffing you turn oneWeird design decision
>>2169759i don't get itI went full crit with mine because he has zero crit in base, and transformed he needs to receive hits to build up his crit each turn and you can really only utilize this fully with his 1 turn taunt. otherwise you'll need to throw him in slot 1 and hope he gets hit a bunch before attacking which can be annoying and susceptible to rng nonsense
>NOOOO I DIDNT LOSE BECAUSE OF DODGE!!!the losing build
Namek Vegeta fight no-itemed with a super class Namek teamKaioken and the friend were able to 1 turn Vegeta, amazing EZA.
>>2169876Some of the missions are still trans, like with gohan/piccolo you have to stall for 4 turns so you can transform. I also kept doing too much damage to use int nameku's active.
>heal with dendeFUCK OFF NO ONE EVEN TAKES ANY DAMAGE ITS EITHER 0 OR 1 SHOT
>>2170094Vegeta (Ginyu) now
Why the fuck are they refusing to display rainbow friends for certain events but if I switch to something else it works fine
>>2170271it does a different search for every stage
>>2170242I ended up using scouter vegeta in slot 2 and giving him as few orbs as possible. he got hit twice and finally fell below 50% and I was able to use dende active
>11 years between namek saga eza battles
>>2170315get ready for another 11 for the next
>>2170275So I'm effectively unable to do FoB because they refuse to give me the leader I want.
>>2170364it might refresh when you exit a stage. usually it refreshes after 5 minutes regardless.
>>2170366It hasn't refreshed for 2 1/2 hours. I've entered multiple stages and purposefully failed and it won't refresh.
>>2170369bad luck finding the same guy then. who did you need rainbowed
>>2170372Gomah. It keeps giving me him for every other stage.
>>2170375oh mine is only 69%. idk try restarting the phone in airplane mode.
that joined forces mission keeps kicking my ass
I think I'm just skipping the missions for this celebration, barring some INSANE luck on the part 2/3 banners where I get a unit at like 79% out the gate.Realistically I'll miss, what, half a multi and a title I'll never equip?Not worth what will likely take double digit hours to complete.
Nice clearing the cache bricked my game lmao
>>2170379I can't think of a single limited time mission right now that would take more than half an hour to do.
>>2170413I already threw an hour at Gohan to no avail so that really killed any care.The no item super 3s for the potential orbs will probably blow my box out, too.
>>2169827where does it even tell you about this existing
>>2170416>GohanI can't imagine he's that bad if you're willing to use items. And Vegeta's a gimmick stage you can easily throw Tao at itemless.>The no item super 3s for the potential orbsWhich ones are those again?
>>2170422No Tao. Maybe Namek powercreep will let me tackle gohan.I was referring to the ones where you get the orbs for the dlc units.
>>2170426You should be able to substitute your own Tao with Yamcha since the first 2 turns are skipped with Demigra's giant form and after that is just a matter of keeping everyone stunned. If you miss a turn, you can pop an usher or something.>the orbs for the dlc units.You mean the skill orbs? Those don't have no-item missions afaik.
They still got it. Worth the cutscene
>>2170378I did it in my first try with this team. Probably a little bit of rng with str Ginyu attacking V/T after slot one on turn two but they had zero build up and only took 300k
Surely they'll SEZA STR Nameku next week, right? They won't leave us without a viable, unrestricted, super class namek saga ally to run with Goku off his own team, right?
>>2170457hat's off to you, I don't know how you did it with this team. you must've had to hit 99999 dodges because everyone on this team tickles vegeta at the end
>spirit bomb animation for v1 daipaku
didn't pull Goku or Frieza in 4500 f2p stoneschat am I cooked
>>2170929no, because you're almost at double pity my boy!
>>2170929>saw some jap went 1k pull without seeing either LR on youtubethis is the most rigged banner yet
>>2170986I went over 3000 stones deep for STR cooler on debut and pulled 0 copies. Then I went another 1900 on the AGL duo and pulled 0 copies but I did get 11 teq krillin and gohans! Now that pity is a thing, at least the shafts can only be so bad
>>2170888They killed him in 2 turns with domain. Frieza took 3.
>slot 1 super 6milion>deadfuckin nigger game lol 30min wasted
>>2170874>>2170929Anon...
They’ve released a decent amount of content but nothings been that engaging. I hope we get some hard missions or stages next week
>>2171043The 8000 point burst mode felt like just doing the Dokkan event normally
>>2171070It was kinda fun trying to max out my score but yeah. I think they made this one specifically easier like they do with Battlefield during big celebrations.
>>2171070>>2171081I don’t remember being able to 1 turn every phase of a max score burst mode. The hp % modifier doesn’t look lower
>>2171103The total attack stat definitely felt lower. I had boosted FPF take under 600k before he even built up all his DR. Meanwhile the Beast Burst mode kept kicking my shit in after phase 2.
Remember when burst mode was about actually choosing options and now it's just >max everything but attack and team cost, adjusting those until you hit 8k
>>2171147Not even 8kJust get to 7k to get all the stones. Four more Kais won't make a difference lol
>>2171163there's an inevitable showdown for getting 8k points
>>2171147You still get that (usually) if you want those last few hundred extra points so I do that for fun. And I can't say I miss running this piece of shit for 70 turns.
Don't forget to redo all the PB stages for clear stones
>scratch stones together like a bitch for a multi>shafted against
>>2171386the what
I can't wait to summon for Cell
>>2171515Prime battles got revamped so you can do them for first clear stones again
>>2171528Praying for a cell part 2 but expecting them to just do a buu part 2 and random bullshit go ex.
>stopped playing dokkan seriously ever since UR daima 4ku/eza int vegetrunks>come back for GDC>units go from 20-40 million damage supers to max damageWhat the fuck is this games balance
>>2171564They dressed up those alternate SAs some units have as a new mechanic with an active skill level multiplier to help cope with 1 billion HP enemies 10th anni brought in. Now they just said fuck it and removed the RNG part.>max damageNot a thing anymore, they patched it out.https://youtu.be/2HwbverWbMc?t=588
>>2170986I put around 1200 stones on frieza's banner, I didn't get any lr frieza or gamma 2 and just one godkuall my featured were daima trash, it was a big shaft
>frontier mission to use dende's activeso fucking aids
>>2171606i did it with str rageku ko mechanic, sadly he heals himself the first time so you have to do it twice
I miss when I used to get featured units from banners.
>>2171606I put scouter vegeta in slot one. He only needs to get hit twice in slot zero
>>2169127>Na both options don't suck, only dodge sucks. other anons have already pointed out he has no crit prior to transformingDoesn't matter pretransforming since if you're running a non-namek saga team you just float him off so he can transform when he returns.>he's going to be demoted to slot 3 which means he's simply never going to deal meaningful damage without a crit build and will still sell runs the times the enemy targets slot 3 for a super he cant handle the majority of the time. This is valid, and having spent some time thinking about it I will probably make him 20 additional 21 crit. I just don't like how they relegate his crit to being hit. Slot 2 or 3 he won't crit which I hadn't thought about. >The smart longterm investment is max crit with a dash of add and accepting that in nine to twelve months time he's past his useby date and demoted to slot 3I don't agree that max Crit is the best way though. Any unit with guaranteed additionals has a higher proc with add and getting another normal or potentially another super. Even a normal is better off for damage. You'd want to maximize his damage output on his taunt turn by proc'ing his additional. He also gets 300 percent extra def so his taunt should age better for that turn. >the irony is the only type of unit that wants dodge investment is usually dodge tanks like tonights eza 3rd form frieza,Nah you want additional to proc. He gets dodge from how many attacks he does. You could also argue crit but he mainly serves as a floating supporter anyway.
>>2171564Which is why this game is going to die soon, every unit feels the same and hitting 200 million in a Super Attack means nothing.
>>2171846>a non-namek saga team you just float him off so he can transform when he returnsWith enough support untransformed FF Frieza survive a 20m super
>>2171846>Even a normal is better off for damage. You'd want to maximize his damage output on his taunt turn by proc'ing his additional.I didn’t finish the rest of your post, I didn’t know you opinions where founded on nonsense 1x 80m crit is doing more than 1x 80m no crit and one normal, it would suprise me if it did more than 2x 80m no crits
>>2171892>1x 80m crit is doing more than 1x 80m no crit and one normal, it would suprise me if it did more than 2x 80m no critsAnd what is the percentage chance of doing Crit with max Crit vs proccing an additional and potentially critting regardless? The point of proccing a potential super on his taunt turn is you will be guaranteeing Crits anyway with all the attacks you get.The offset of not performing an additional and potentially another super is not worth the maybe 10 percent extra crit chance.If Datruth is obsessed with Dodge, you're brain dead obsessed with Crit. >>2171889The point is isn't doesn't matter about no crit in base since with a namek team he guarentees his active and if not just float him to get crit for Slot 1.
>>2171871>top grossing overall for multiple days>devs still putting in effortI don't think the game is dying anytime soon. OPTC, on the other hand, that game feels like it's on life support
someone put the f2p str ginyu as friend please, I want to try FoB with two ginyus in one rotation
>>2172002Just use duplicate leader
Halloween the game didn’t just die… it was MURDERED
>>2171913He’s doing 230m in base. The difference between that critting and not critting is insane>If Datruth is obsessed with Dodge, you're brain dead obsessed with CritThe difference is people are willing to chance their builds based on the passive, the problem with truth is that he thinks full Dodge on everything maximizes your survivability when in reality it’s the fact he has every unit rainbowed is why he can do no items
Don't think I care enough to do the other missions at the moment but I'm happy I'm free of this albatross. Now to do another 500 stones for Frieza for no featured units.
i hope we get more ezas and sezas
>>2172010that's the alternative but I'd prefer at least to run a 220% lead
>frieza didn't dodgeare you fucking kidding me
>>2127093Hey lads, divegrass anon here, with the Autumn Cup coming soon, its about time we revise our roster for it, so let me know your suggestions for the roster poll next saturday in here >>2171563 That smug cunt REMINDER was there so who else should be in it?And since we're hosting this cup due to being the current babby champions, let me know what would you like to see as a ref or anything else, no promises since its mostly me doing almost everything but we will try our best.If you don't know what i'm talking about: https://pastebin.com/nr9ujDMN
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