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Your source of the juiciest dramas about gacha games. Anything goes---your sentiment about the gacha industry, schizo takes, conspiracy theories, MTL screenshots from obscure Chinese forums, seething about that one pesky Kuro game that just won't die, or just random gacha related topics that don't fit in a specific general.

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Wulost
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>>2191895
AI is good for you
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Honestly this looks pretty good to me, I'd rather play something more unique like this than another HSR clone desu
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>>2191895
Blue Archive's player count and revenue have sharply fallen ever since the new gacha changes

With the new gacha being similar with MiHoYo and other titles, players spend the same amount of money yet other games offer full 3D models and active gameplay in return

How do we save Blue Archive?
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>>2191901
But isn't this another HSR clone?
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>>2191904
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>>2191901
>cutsceneslop
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>>2191901
kino
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>>2191895
>>2191901
>>2191904
>>2191907
banevading again shin?????
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So wuwon just like that
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>>2191904
If BA is making so little money how do they afford to pay off all those artists HMMMM?
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>>2191918
qrd?
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holo win
wuwa won
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>>2191923
6 million dollars is not " little money".
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>>2191930
But I thought BA is eosing in 2 weeks?
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>>2191931
Who said this?
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>>2191931
The upkeep for a 2D game is minuscule, the most devs are probably spending on are 3D chibi models and rigging. Everything eles they earn either go to other projects (Fareidolia) or promotions (ads, fan art, doujins).
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>>2191934
So why can't Tencent pay for wuwa fan art and soujins?
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I'd like to take a moment to remind everyone that snowbreak still haven't eos
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>>2191935
Why should they?
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>>2191938
Why wouldn't Tencent want wuwa to be comiket king? It's good advertisement, should be chump change for them if Nexon can do it, no?
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>>2191935
>soujins
Calm down women
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>>2191935
Are you for real? WuWa has to pump out fully 3D open world regions and multiple characters every patch. It costs WAY more make WuWa stay afloat than some VN png collector with 3D texture swapped chibis on the side.
Tencent has a million other things to worry about.
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>>2191940
Wuwa is good enough that contents creators would shill it for free
Why pay anyone anything?
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>>2191942
>>2191943
Still for Tencent it should be chump change and yet they can't do it. Weird.
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In their mind Kuro game own Tencent
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>>2191945
10cent is already astroturfing the fuck out of wuwa, but for some reason wuwa can't put a dent in the fan arts or doujins scene.
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>why don't they?
>cuz they don't need it
>but why don't they?
She just want the final word I guess?
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yikes
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bruh theres nothing good in 2027...
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Bro just proved my point
>In their mind
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>>2191946
You can't astroturf a community into existing. It can help to some extent, but at some point all the paid commissions start feeling like wasted money.
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>>2191946
>wuwa can't put a dent in the fan arts or doujins scene
It doesn't need to. Only games that try to appeal to otaku (BA, AO, RX, AL) in the first place can benefit from paying off artists to draw fan art and doujins.
Games like WuWa and Genshin are clearly going for a different target audience.
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>>2191952
Still doesn't make sense because for Tencent all this should cost close to nothing.
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Gacha already peaked with wuwa
It'll only get worse from here
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>>2191953
umm your tech otakus save the world?
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>>2191953
>only japan matter
t. weeb
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>>2191954
Again, why would they? The returns would be negligible if any. Just because you would do it, doesn't mean a big corporation that seeks to maximize profits would.

>>2191956
>otakus save the world
No longer their slogan since forever.
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>>2191953
>Tech otakus save the world
>"genshin isn't for otaku"
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>>2191949
please delete
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>>2191960
Genshin panders to no otaku.
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>>2191959
Why? Because it's good advertisement
And it should cost Tencent almost nothing because of how big they are.
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>>2191957
the origin of the anime aesthetic that the whole world loves, you baka gaijin
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I'm not typing out the same shit.
>>2191963
read
>>2191953
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>wuwa out of nowhere
Not obsessed btw
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>>2191964
Yeah but Chinese ain't anime
or so I've heard weebs claimed
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>>2191965
>actually good advertisement is not needed lol
Kurobots are retarded.
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>>2191969
Why Mihoyo isn't doing it then? They have infinite money to spare.
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>>2191952
>You can't astroturf a community into existing.
with bots anything is possible
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https://youtu.be/EBtdwvU32OE?si=TYZ1qPpaW-pNGVms
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>>2191971
Actually why don't they?
>Tech otakus save the world
Are their thing no?
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>>2191971
mihoyo is way smaller than tencent, and genshin is still getting 10x more art than wuwa lol
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>>2191935
They do commission arts but they spend more on google and billboard adspaces
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>>2191974
Because they don't need to, it's a waste of money for pathetic gains.
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>tech otakus
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>>2191976
>They do commission arts but
...
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>>2191901
It's basically the same turn based sloppa but you can move
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>>2191972
You just reminded me of the guy that made 67 accounts to vote genshin 67 times
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Genshin not having any SP characters AT ALL means every character is rendered STATIC and unchanging. Entirely unable to go through arcs or get stronger once they release. So we have tons of characters that will NEVER develop or get stronger.
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>>2191979
??
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>>2191979
Not on a scale that BA does.
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>>2191983
rebalance>alts
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>>2191985
And we're back to
>>2191940
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>>2191981
this one is more blatant because Whimpering Waves is less popular than ZZZ
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>>2191983
...what does this have to do with gay dude?
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>>2191988
>The Genshin Killer (failed)
>The HSR Killer (failed)
>The ZZZ Killer (failed)
>The NTE Killer (failed)
>The Endfield Killer (failed)
>The BA/AO killer (You just got here)
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>>2191988
Is that why wuwa made more money and have more players?
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>>2191987
>It's good advertisemen
It' not, because that's not the audience they are going for with WuWa, there is no benefit. It's like advertising meat products to vegetarians.
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>>2191960
But are tech otakus even otakus in the way people here would think?
I got bored the other day and did a cursory search on 技术宅 (tech otaku) which led me to two sites that tried defining them.
https://baike.baidu.com/item/%E6%8A%80%E6%9C%AF%E5%AE%85/4466371
https://zh.moegirl.org.cn/%E6%8A%80%E6%9C%AF%E5%AE%85
If you run each of them through google translate, both of them seem to indicate that the defining trait of a tech otaku is being interested in tech or some other field rather than ACGN.
Baidu:
>This group is divided into two categories: technology enthusiasts and knowledge researchers. The former are mostly concentrated in the field of software development, while the latter focus on technical research.
moegirl.org.cn:
>Basically, anyone who can create technical works that are difficult for ordinary people to do can be called a tech geek.
Basically people here (and the west) read it as tech OTAKU with the emphasis on the otaku (ACGN) part while the chinks read it as TECH otaku with the emphasis on the tech part.
Remember that otaku originally just meant any shut-in, not specifically an ACGN obsessed one even if that's the caricature.
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>>2191992
isn't wuwa supposed to be ML? wasn't FGO the origin of the whole "ML" thing?
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>>2191994
Now it makes sense.
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>29.28
>42.09
>56.66

>45.18

>59.43
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>>2191995
>FGO the origin of the whole "ML" thing
Yes
>isn't wuwa supposed to be ML
No
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>>2191983
Cyno got stronger through SQ2. Bennett got his backstory and character development 5 years after he was introduced. Wanderer has active and got his resolution with Dottore this year. You are unplayer so you wouldn't know.
There's a reason Godshin is Godshin.
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>>2191998
>>isn't wuwa supposed to be ML
>No
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*sigh* guess its time to remind them again
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>>2191983
>nooo you can't have character development unless you sell me the same product again!!!!!
Your Cheld? Your Diona? Your Collei? Your Alhaitham and Paimon? Your Dori?
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>>2191995
>isn't wuwa supposed to be ML
Says who? ML isn't even an otaku thing, it's just a made up term from a bunch of insecure chinks. Japanese don't even use it.
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>>2192003
What's the ML equivalent there? it's definitely not bishoujo
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>>2191998
the word you are looking for is harem
ML was created by chinkschizos then adapted by SEApags
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>>2192001
enough with the pinks
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>>2192005
"ML" still originated from FGO
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>>2192005
meant for >>2191995
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>>2191991
All 3 Mihoyo games have more players than Wuwa on Mobile, Consoles and PC.
Considering Kuro spends hundreds of millions on marketing but the game gains 0 profits then ZZZ makes more money too.
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>>2192004
Harem
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>>2192005
Yeah I guess harem and ML are roughly the same
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>>2191995
Yes. Rinascita was a harem anime.
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>>2192011
Iunno bwo the numbers disagreed
All you've got are "feel"
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>>2192016
lol
lmao
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>>2192007
no "ML" if you using it to describe harem, is a concept that has always existed in anime where the main character have multiple love interests
but Harem enjoyer aren't schizo to the point where they see male-female interaction within the story and freak out

Wuwa caters to the ML fanbase and not to the "harem fanbase". An easy distinction is how MILFs are seen in both genres and how they treat inter character relationship. Lucilla is mid 30s virgin and Kuro is scared to officialized the relationship between aemeath and Rover themselves canonically.

in an "ML-coded" story, a MILF cannot exist because it is "used-good" and she is a waste of space.
in a "Harem-coded" story, a MILF exist and is a happy addition to the harem

also in FGO, there are multiple pullable characters that are canonically married are couples. this would be a Sin in any ML game
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>>2192018
tldr
FGO is "ML"
wuwa is not
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>>2192018
>but Harem enjoyer aren't schizo to the point where they see male-female interaction within the story and freak out
uhh harem comes from ottomans where the only man allowed to get close to the women was castrated, no?
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>>2192018
>Wuwa caters to the ML fanbase and not to the "harem fanbase"
90% of harem anime is a dense MC that doesn't actually get laid and just has a lot of orbiting females who want his dick. And this excludes the MILFs generally.
That's exactly what WuWa is.

WuWa is ML.
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>>2192020
um actually this is up to individual taste
back in the Han Dynasty, the warlord of the Wei Kingdom, Cao Cao had a harem of previously married women
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>>2192017
>zzz lost a 3rd of its playerbase after anni
oof
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niggas can't even agreed on what ML meant
what are we even discussing
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>>2192022
this is true
but this is also to say all MLs are Harems but not all Harems are ML
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>>2192023
>harem of previously married women
but STDs? with ottomans I think most females in the harem were virgins
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>during the chink dynasty!
The only harem definition that matters in this case is how Japan portrays it in anime.
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>>2192022
>ML =/= harem
>WuWa is harem
>WuWa is ML
???
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How can it be harem when the MC canonically have a wife and daughter
Let not even bring up the fact that other character have other relationship
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>>2192028
>replying seriously to a joke reply that is a reply to another joke reply
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replying?
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ML is MaleLove
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Arknight is harem
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lads is ml
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>>2192030
>Let not even bring up the fact that other character have other relationship
Yeah if that's a thing then it's 100% not harem.
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>most pretentious story possible
>generic edgy designs & artstyle
>horrible gameplay
>okay music
>absolutely dogshit menus
I really don't see why this is praised so fucking much
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>>2192036
arknights is cuckshit because all of doktah's wives are now the Endmin's wives.
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>>2192024
Not like Wuwa is different after its cp collab
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>>2192039
It's every kid's first deep/edgy story.
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Is this true?
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>>2192039
>most pretentious story possible
That's why
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Endfield is ML
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>>2192039
project moon got quite a track record
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>>2192040
Ain't those all clone and shits
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>>2192039
Most of the fanbase are teenagers/young adults mad that Genshin/HSR/Wuwa are too """childish""" and """not serious enough""" but also hate fan-service from FGO/BA/Nikke.
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>>2192040
Endmin legit cucked the original AK MC? kek
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>>2192043
wuwaGAWDS here, I agree
"combat enthusiast" are insufferable
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>>2192050
proof?
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>>2192039
something something fear and hunger, undertale
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>>2192051
Just google "cutscene slop"
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>>2192039
>steambabs first gacha
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>>2192043
new to gacha tribalism?
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>>2192043
this makes me want to replay lies of P again
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>>2192056
this but Sekiro
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hey wait a minute.
ananta wasn't at TGS...
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>>2192039
>"DUDE TRY LIMBUS IT'S THE BEST GACHA IT'S SO INCREDIBLY GENEROUS!!!"
>Look closer into the claims
>Most players don't roll for months because they save for a banner that happens every few months
Kek!
With that logic literally any gacha is generous if you don't roll for months, Limbus really has to be people's first gacha.
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>>2192058
It's not japan
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2 more hours until wuwa stream...

I'm not ready for the wuwonning....what do...?
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>>2191950
why are male gacha MC's always shorter than the other playable males?
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>>2192059
Don't forget that most players also buy a subscription, "generous" my ass.
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>>2192063
the term generous is being used relative to other gachas
not sure if its changed now but on launch Limbus's gameplay is not generous with your time
for harder content, you are perma coinflipping until you get the number you need in combat
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>>2192053
what about your proof of playing the game?
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>>2192061
Are they finally done with chinawank 2.0?
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>>2192039
It's for people who hate anime and tumblrinas
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>>2191972
I love how he didn't even know how to pronounce this organically popular game
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>>2192065
Any gacha is generous if you don't roll for months while buying a subscription
Lobcorp was fun but I have no idea why Ruina & Limbus attracted all these anime/otaku hating trannies into the scene
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>>2192071
Mature anime for mature people such as myself crowd
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>>2192058
it was an easy win for them last year so now they only appear on westoid cons
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>>2192067
lol
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>>2192066
the fact you think he is wrong is proof you either don't play the game or touch any end game content

https://youtu.be/lctj0EOz1Eg?si=mUzQVFkPxhlNVW3X&t=192
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chinkshit is never generous. dhink devs fucking die if their rates reach 1%. There needs to be a term for pityslop
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>>2192079
chinkshit is generous with your time
gookshit is generous with your money
choose one; the only one that breaks this cycle is NIKKE
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>chinkshit
>generous with anything
KEK. The only thing that beats it is Cyshit
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Nikke was the only decent Korean gacha but it was still nowhere near CN gachas
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>>2192080
Nikke fucked up because it's statistically impossible to not have every single character if you do dailies, so they gotta charge out the ass elsewhere to make money
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Only thing china dominates is word count, and yet their stories say the least.
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>>2192067
this will be the final patch. The loli will pull a galbrena and solve everything.
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Genuinely how is Nikke actually generous?
I've played for a week and all I've gotten have been shitty years old units that are all powercrept completely
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>genshin has 2 chinawank patches this year
and no one complains?????????? yet wuwa everyone complains
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>>2192088
Why would you play a game with AI generated art.
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>>2192088
iirc, once your account is established if you buy only monthly + the event packs from time to time, you can get every newly release character
but the time you need to invested in to get your account to that state is relatively demanding dailies could be a 15-25 min ordeal
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>Nikke//Limbus are generous if you [SPEND MONEY]
Holy fuck, you can't be serious.
Why is every Korean gachafag like that?
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>>2192085
kek trve
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>>2192088
you get permanent mileage that you can exchange anytime
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>>2192095
ZZZ is more generous than most gachas without a hint of irony
>roll for Void Hunter & their BiS
>no need to roll for the next 6 months
>clear endgame with ease
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only Trickcal is generous
i never spend anything an i got all the units
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>>2192099
>.6% bullshit
>character are designed around 2 dupes + their weapon
fuck off chinky dickrider
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>>2192090
liyue is comfy and doesn't have mary sues like most chinkwank regions
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>>2192099
If I can't roll for characters in a character collection game, that game is not generous.

If you roll a character just to clear endgame sloppa, you should rethink why you play these games.
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>>2192101
>only have to roll for 2 dupes + their weapon every 6 months
>every patch shits out fuck ton of rolls so even with worst luck possible you can easily do it
How exactly is this bad?
Is a percentage in a gacha banner the only reason you play a gacha?
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>>2192102
The mary sue is the region itself
>perfect rule of law and order
>every character is a virtuous paragon
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>>2192108
Shut the fuck up you deceitful anus. Saving for a whole patch doesn't even guarantee you can get a single character.
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>>2192105
>I play a video game to.... Collect jpgs
Thank fuck Mihoyo & Kuro games normalized turning gachas into proper video games.
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>>2192111
>I play a video game to.... spend money just to clear a gamemode that gives me less currency than I spent on the characters
Mentally ill.
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>>2192109
>every character is a virtuous paragon
their god is pic related don't know about that one
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>>2192112
You're still stuck in the gambling mindset, people play endgame modes because they're where the game actually gets fun & difficult
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>>2192109
>perfect rule of law and order
they have fatui bankers, treasure hoarders and spies running around. zhongli is the god of contracts, not the god of law and order like neuvillette is.
>every character is a virtuous paragon
at worst they're one-dimensional like early mond characters are. like how jean and keqing are basically the same character done twice. later liyue characters like xianyun and gaming and zibai have more quirks and personality.
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>buckbroke Tendies
>mindbroke jpg collectors
Truly the greatest gacha out there.
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>>2192114
>in a GACHA game general
>confused about why some people are focused on the gambling aspect of the product
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>>2192118
Modern gachas are only really gachas in name
Gacha is a side aspect, gameplay is the main focus
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>>2192080
Uhh, bd2? When I stopped playing I still have 700k jims (3.5k worth of rolls) and 600 tickets while having everything at +5 (6 copies) and their personal gear. I heard dailies are very fast now.
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>>2192114
The original argument was to pull a character just because it's free endgame clears, and therefore the game is generous.

You not only moved the goalpost, but directly to the opposing team's field, because that's the direct opposite of what you're saying.
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>>2192121
Oh I was just trying to rile you up after you argued with that Anon
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>>2192119
>Gacha is a side aspect, gameplay is the main focus
its not at best you can argue its a 50-50 split because to access to the "gameplay as a service", interacting with the gacha system is a requirement
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>>2192117
Why is it so hard for any company to actually compete with Genshin Impact?
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>>2192119
>gameplay is the main focus
Then people would play real games instead, but sloppers want the gacha plus fashion statement/sense or community just like this very thread does
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>>2192119
>>2192123
That's one interesting aspect of post-Genshin gacha. The extremely low rates + 50/50 made it so you just never expect to pull off-pity.
It kinda reduced the gambling aspect just to one singular 50/50. Everyone assumes they'll need a full pity's worth of pulls for a character.

Maybe that's part of the reason why it became so accessible to normalfags.
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>>2192117
>>2192124
covid boost
ez
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>>2192123
You hardly need to interact with the gacha in Genshin to play it. Quests and map exploration and now Miliastra and TPS don't need it. Genshin was the only gacha where I went half a year without rolling and not be bored.
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>>2192124
Because every game afterwards trying to be the "Genshin killer" fails to understand why Genshin's popular to begin with. Copying without understanding means you're definitely not a passion project, just a moneygrab.
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>>2192126
In reality, you have a 1/3 chance of getting a 5* off pity
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>>2192128
If Genshin Impact was popular merely because of the Covid it would have died off after Covid but people stuck around because the game itself is the best in the genre.
And thanks to Milliastra Wonderland, you now have endless content in Genshin Impact.
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>>2192111
>>2192111
>proper video games
dogshit versions of real games. why would i want to play a poor imitation? Gacha should be gacha, not facsimiles of open world games.
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>>2192132
covid made more people try it, other genshin killers never got this opportunity
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>>2192129
There's plenty of people doing challenges like "14 day account clearing endgame"
So even there it's """generous""" to new players. The only exception is Theater with its gatekeeping.
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genshin before sumeru is actually like a fantasy world.
zoomer will never understand because flashing lights fried their brains
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>>2192137
Snezhnaya brought that magic back for me and many others.
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>>2192129
>You hardly need to interact with the gacha in Genshin to play it.
hardly still means it cannot be ignored
ignoring the Genshin gacha system would imply you do weekly bosses every week using:

Traveler / Amber / Kaeya / Lisa / Barbara + Xiangling + 4 star selector + 5 star selector
which generally no one does
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>>2192142
This is literally what every Korean & Japanese gachafag sounds like kek
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>>2192140
>which generally no one does
according to who? You don't need to do these every week anyway once you have enough characters, or if you're not pulling at all.

mizuki off the standard selector + Cryo Traveler and you got a top tier meta team if you -really- want to.
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>>2192140
they can be ignored, it's just that most people would prefer not to because stronger characters = smoother game experience. the game can be 99% soloed with almost any character.
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>>2192140
>weekly bosses
just co-op
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>>2192140
meanwhile me using intentionally dogshit teams so even overworld and bosses are challenging.
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>>2192132
Kek this guy is pretending sunk cost shitters don't exist, when FGO stands tall
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>>2192144
>according to who
according to anyone with a working set of eyes unless you are delusional enough to argue that the majority of the average player base does that clear

>Cryo Traveler
youre not getting access to Cryo Traveler unless you skip and if you are playing your game as a "game" then you are not skipping
this isnt even to mention you'll be using 3 star weapons on the majority of characters until you get access to crafting for other regions when you get through the game
Inazuma mini bosses alone would filter most of the player base without gacha access
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>>2192145
KWABOTY
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>>2192151
Genshin still gets lots of new players daily unlike most gachas.
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>>2192151
Sunk cost implies people are unhappy but keep playing so they don't lose their "progress" which doesn't apply to Genshin considering the game is great and the players are happy.
This would apply to Wuwa or HSR players who are truly playing due to sunk cost and they feel the need to validate that by hating on other games
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>>2192155
Of the 30 or so people i know who played genshin at some point, none still are. When's the last time anyone started that shit? I don't believe that for a second.
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>>2192153
there's no skipping bro, after you clear Mondstadt you get a teleport point at Snezhnaya and you just unlock it. You're only cucked if you want Pyro or Electro travelers immediately.
Meta shit only matters for endgame, the rest of the game is not difficult at all even for early characters, at most it's mildly challenging which is fun.

Yall just want to autoclear content and not play the game but people in genshit play for fun.
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fluorescent formation, our foundation from naught of the east.
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>>2192159
ARE YOU RETARDED
if you TP to Snezhnaya, you are immediately put into the Archon Quest

>Yall just want to autoclear content and not play the game but people in genshit play for fun.
thats not the argument being made you retard
the argument was modern gachas are not more game than gacha
and you think otherwise you are delusional there is a reason why the highest viewed videos for each of theme are character trailers not gameplay or story trailers
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>>2192158
Plenty of people. I'm in FUN discords and see new players join and ask for advice everyday. Helped a few newbies do mora runs yesterday too.
Of course, there's a dogshit part of the community like the spreadsheetfags but just don't interact with them.
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>>2192153
>this isnt even to mention you'll be using 3 star weapons on the majority of characters until you get access to crafting
you're given prototype rancour from completing some newbie tasks, and billets for crafting 4* weapons. also you can get a literqal 5* sword for traveler early from the snezhnaya main quest, it's literally strong enough that other characters can borrow it as a meta statstick
>unless you skip and if you are playing your game as a "game" then you are not skipping
all recent genshin main quests are pretty independent of each other, you can complete nod krai before natlan and it won't change your experience much. if you refuse to start snezhnaya quest as a newbie then do as you wish, but you also shouldn't complain about not having any free meta characters.
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>>2192158
You constantly see new players on twitter bro. Fix your algorithem.
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>>2192167
>all recent genshin main quests are pretty independent of each other, you can complete nod krai before natlan and it won't change your experience much. if you refuse to start snezhnaya quest as a newbie then do as you wish, but you also shouldn't complain about not having any free meta characters.

no they arent they are not fully independent of each other. signora's death alone makes this statement false
at that point you aren't playing the linear experience of a video game
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>>2192158
Reroller still going strong
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>>2192171
>signora's death alone makes this statement false
signora's death happened in inazuma
this is why I said all RECENT genshin main quests. Sumeru is still pretty much a sequel to Inazuma and you want to play them in a row.
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>>2192173
ummmmm oof yikes sweaty?
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>>2192173
Stream is up?
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Covid 2 will save gacha industry
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>>2192174
clearly there are more examples like the overarching story of the abyss that im not going to bother listing because its such an outrageous statement for describing the intended experience for a narrative driven and focused game.
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>>2192164
Some Genshin memes or lore/story shits get plenty of views desu
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>>2192164
>the argument was modern gachas are not more game than gacha
I'm not the anon that started this, but I think Genshin is more game than gacha, but I wouldn't say the same about HSR for instance.

Keep in mind Genshin also has a fuckton of game modes independent of the gacha. There's teapot mains, TCG mains, stepmania mains, miliastra mains (gacha is purely cosmetic there).
There's people who enjoy photography, there's people who go around doing resinless artifact runs. And of course there's the character collectors and sweaty endgame players.

>and you think otherwise you are delusional there is a reason why the highest viewed videos for each of theme are character trailers not gameplay or story trailers
No that's different. People like the characters of course, it's a fucking gacha game.
The difference is that you can start WuWa or Genshin today and enjoy the full game despite the games being old as fuck and just playing with what you have. HSR will likely not feel as good.
3 button turn-based combat is limiting and content outside of it is nothing compared to say WuWa that has more depth to exploration. You can just walk around and "experience" the full game.
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>>2192176
Only the JP one
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>>2192178
obviously the best experience is playing them in the correct order, but for new players that want the latest features it would take at least weeks of nonstop playtime. playing the first part of snezhnaya only introduces some gun gameplay and gets you to the tsaritsa statue. newbies can stop there and then continue the story in the correct order.
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>>2192180
that doesnt disproof the original argument that the Gacha aspect still holds a giant presence within the core aspect of the game itself and the best you argue for is a 50-50 split b/t gacha system and the game itself
when a large part of the appeal of each version update is the character itself as oppose to the game content
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>>2192171
The only spoilers you get are Capitano not being there (they don't really specify why anyway) and Signora dying, which wasn't that crazy a thing that you'd start shouting spoilers at people and they'd be upset.
If she were playable I think that'd genuinely be a big spoiler though.

They really tried to make it independent so new players can skip to it. The first story arc in Snez is a big slow infodump to make sure everyone has context.
And even then, I don't think it breaks the exprience, it's more of a "That happened, I'm curious to see how it happened" and then you go do the other archon quests.
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>>2192184
>when a large part of the appeal of each version update is the character itself as oppose to the game content
Upcoming genshin patch's biggest appeal is literally just the story and characters are secondaries.
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>>2192181
>No that's different. People like the characters of course, it's a fucking gacha game.
THATS THE ENTIRE ARGUMENT BEING MADE
Modern gacha games are still GACHA games
They arent games that happen to have gacha elements
Being able to clear the game naked does not disproof this statement at all
when the promotion materials and main source of revenue is CENTERED around this aspect
it is not a BACKSEAT element
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>>2192188
We're arguing a subjective topic, no need to get so riled up over differing opinions.
Of course it's not a backseat element, but if you can enjoy the entire game and not alienate new players who have missed years of gacha.
Doesn't that mean the gacha has a lower relevance in the grand scheme of things?

In Arknights you can clear the entire game with 3-4 star operators you can recruit outside the gacha. It's just a genuinely challenging tactical game if you want to ignore the gacha. You can choose to do it and still enjoy a full game.
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Gacha is good for you
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>>2192189
between two individual this is a subjective statement
for a general audience this is not a subjective statement

the initial arguments were:

>in a GACHA game general
>confused about why some people are focused on the gambling aspect of the product

>Modern gachas are only really gachas in name
>Gacha is a side aspect, gameplay is the main focus

this is not directed at whether an individual thinks "Modern gachas are only really gachas in name" but the general consensus that "Modern gachas are only really gachas in name"
and the fact is that from the general audience perspective: Gacha remains a core aspect as Gacha games and therefore "Modern gachas are only really gachas in name" from the general audience perspective is a false statement and you can see this in the promotional materials for all these games and their method of outreach
this is not subjective
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What do we think about our first ever (3D)loliBAAAABAA
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Gender bent Rover was a mistake.
MRover should be FRover's relative.
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>>2192200
You sounds insecure
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>>2192198
Awful case of wuwaface
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>>2192202
true
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>>2192204
>6 star tacet mark
uh oh
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>>2192204
Thought it was a skin for that green red haired dancer whore
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>>2192206
Seem like both souming and hsin have a dead friend
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>>2192143
>excluding chink
Very subtle, chang.
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POOOOOOOOOOOOOWOOOOOOOON
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>>2192155
Better be with how much money they pump into advertising.
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>>2192211
rover can fix her hole in her heart
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nice gameplay wuwabwo
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>>2192218
Ty bro.
Your game could never.
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>new spending event in wuwa
bros..............................
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Round glass for extra chinkiness
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Uh oh
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>>2192220
and a "friend come back" begging event.
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>You can rewatch story in wuwa now
Genshit could never...
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wuwa on Ozempic
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>>2192219
Nice AIslop bro
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>>2192227
That's all you can muster? Yep i think wuwon.
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>>2192224
no sane wuwa player wants to rewatch 1.X story. We have a skip button for a reason.
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I was promised a SAO collab
where was it???
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>>2192229
>Can skip the story when it comes out to get the rewards and rewatch it later
>Newfags can skip the weeks long story and watch it at their pace
>Hoyotranny: A-acktually it's irrelevant ok?!?!?!
WU
WON
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poowonners are now attacking each other...
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>very generous game
>spending event not even on anniversary or half-anniversary
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okay, but who won?
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>>2192232
Do you also get the rewards for those if you're a latefag?
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>nooooo how dare a gacha game have spending events!! I'm too poor and brown!!!
genshintranny SEAmonkeys can't comprehend having talented and hard working devs that you want to reward
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>GI has a livestream
>/gdg/ doesn't care
>HSR has a livestream
>/gdg/ doesn't care
>ZZZ has a livestream
>/gdg/ doesn't care
>AKE has a livestream
>/gdg/ doesn't care
>NTE has a livestream
>/gdg/ doesn't care
>WUWA has a livestream
>/gdg/ watches the stream and hyper analyzes it while spaming the general. They don't even play the game.
Other games just can't compete.
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>>2192237
>Organic won
Genwon
BAwon
>Forced won
Zenwon
Wuwon
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>>2192240
>I want to give my money to the 500 billion dollar Tencent to support them
Is there anything more cucked than a tencentjeet?
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>>2192241
People cared about BA livestream when Nexon fucked up the gacha
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FVARK
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>>2192245
>blatant AI slop
they aren't even trying to hide it anymore
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>>2192240
>talented and hard working devs that you want to reward
is that why your game has the most spending events in a year and still gets outperformed by ZZZ and at times NTE and Endfield on meme revenue charts
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>>2192241
your AO?
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>NTE livestream had more viewers
Poo...won?
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>>2192253
pretty sure I saw wuwa stream's at 30~40k
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Is Genshin really the last major gacha without a spending event?
They just had their anniversary stream too which means that ship has sailed for another year at least.
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>>2192254
That's EN.
This one is JP.
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>outperformed by ZZZ
Didn't know the whole year was a single month.
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>>2192250
And just like that, wuwon.
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>>2192255
Genshin has no KPI so they aren't desperate for revenue or new players or "looking good". They focus solely on servicing their current playerbase as best. Must feel nice to work under genshin desu.
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Is this good or bad? Underage relationship?
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>They focus solely on servicing their current playerbase as best.
HAHAHAHAHA this is why i can't stop coming here. Holy fucking delusion. Being a hoyo dev is truly the best job you can have right now with such a ginormous goy cattle player base.
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>he thinks 4 == 1
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>>2192265
>
kek knew a wuwonkey melty would be imminent
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$200 chair
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>>2192228
Yes, because I only speak the truth.
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>>2192262
>romantic interests
OHNONONONONO, PLATONIC SENSEI BROS??
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>>2192276
Do better man
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In-game collab is the sign that the game is dying and need more players
Genshin won
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I was told there would be a free 5* in 3.7
Why do wuwa players keep lying
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>>2192281
there is a free 5 star, you have to spend a certain amount of money to get a rebate
>>2192236
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>free 5 star
>you have to spend a certain amount of money
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>>2192286
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Hotta registered another Tower of Fantasy
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>>2192232
>post about story
>move goalposts to rewards
you make us wuwa players look fucking retarded
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>>2192241
didnt we get a gdg OP about the last genshin stream
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ready for a game that does WORSE than eosfield?
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>>2192288
>Can't wait to play Tower of Fantasy 2 and become an investor again.
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10/10 stream
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>>2192293
Mongil?
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>>2192293
Thank you for funding AP, ALcucks
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>>2192299
How did a 3D harvest moon become... whatever AP currently is?
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>>2192296
NTE>Wuwa stream for me
Theme park>Wuxia shit
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only matter of time NTE will have their chink patch
just like ToF with Domain9
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The holo-wuwa alliance continue
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i'll be honest guys i don't play any gachaslop at the moment
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>>2192299
You look really happy funding Asstrae Orachio sis
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>>2192303
ccp shiteaters can play ananta, they'll release with chinatown
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>>2192305
We know, we don't play games here
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>>2192305
That's all of us bwo
We just be shitpostin
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>>2192305
>>2192309
You guys play the game of life!
Where you always lose the 50/50!
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>>2192305
wait for kaleidorider
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>>2192309
>>2192310
>>2192311
Technically not playing the game but...
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>>2192305
Me too
Waiting for ananta and silver palace
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>>2192305
The only game i play nonstop right now is Cyberpunk. Gachas barely waste time anyway, unless it's garbage like NTE and their weeklies. But i quit NTE ages ago.
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>>2192305
yeah
do daily then playing Dying Light 1
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GenGAWDs...
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>>2192312
Hopefully i can get into the beta again man i miss my wives...
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>>2192320
I need more of my mom (wife)
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Hoyo players are really just a bunch of brown poor kids. No wonder the game has around 4-5 times the players of wuwa and still makes similar amounts of money while having a worse gacha system.
Just a bunch of beggars.
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>>2192323
So what your saying is that Genshin is incredibly f2p friendly that players don't feel the need to spend?
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>>2192325
Yes, very f2p friendly.
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>>2192323
>similar amounts of money
Proof?
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>>2192323
No chuddie, they just spend their money on estrogen and medication instead of a silly game.
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have a wuwonning weekend dawg
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>>>/vg/581582406
>>>/vg/581582792
>>>/vg/581583134
>>>/vg/581583167
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>>2191950
KYAAAAAAA *Faints*
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>>2192320
Will there be another beta test? It looks like the game is going to take a while to launch...
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>ANOTHER wuwa spending event
Much generous saar, not like genshin saar
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Not a wusaar but if you're a hoyofag you should support wuwa because competition is good for consumers
Genshin and other mihomo games need a lot of improvement
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>>2192326
How else do you explain Genshin having the least spending among all the big gachas compared to its playerbase size? (This is true in China only as well so you can't bring the SEA card)
Genshin would literally start making more money if it started doing the same as wuwa/hsr cuz then it would demand more spending from Whales.
Genshin's monetization is incredibly weak.
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>>2192323
Genshin makes like 2x the amount of money wujeet, and thats without 3 spending events a year
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>>2192293
the game might fail but at least those chuds who wanted to remove the female mc didn't get what they want. good job manjuu
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>>2192340
Wuwa is unfortunately not the formidable rival that genshin requires. It's largely irrelevant on the general community spaces.
No fan content scene, no merch scene, CC scene is toxic, etc.
So yeah, it can't compete, unfortunately.
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>>2192253
Wu.... lost...
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>>2192342
>Genshin makes like 2x the amount of money
It should be about 4x, and this doesn't include merchandise and external collabs
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>>2192347
It probably does, we cant track PC revenue
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>>2192288
TOF EOS and offline version soon.
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>>2192342
>Source: I made it up
Your garbage game isn't even on steam lmao, meanwhile Wuwa hits nr.1 in the biggest PC store on the planet almost every patch while having around 5 other platforms where its playable.
No one cares about your meme made up mobile numbers, and even in those charts both games make similar revenue.
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>>2192344
We won yurixisters...a safe haven exclusively for us sisters!
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>>2192345
Genshin's 7.1 stream had over 300k viewers peak.
Wuwa's 3.7 stream had 55k peak.
It's far from competing.
Also 3.7 is the lowest amount of viewers ever after 3.6. Astonishing how quickly people keep quitting Wuwa. Very weak player retention.
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>>2192350
I genuinely can't tell if this is a falseflag or genuine delusion/retardation
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I will play as female MC and there is nothing you can do about it.
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>>2192354
BASED
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Yuri is good for you
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Wake me up when Poowa can compete with this
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>Mihomos seething
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DECISIVE WUWIN
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https://youtu.be/JwWVgGE5b0Q?is=jMPswphh2Ya-NiUr
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>>2192354
Straightest man in /gaydudesgeneral/
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>>2192361
Poowa could never
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I just like girls
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>>2192362
True, only homos pick a dude and stare at his ass.
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>>2192365
Where did this meme about looking at the ass come from? Is a guy's butt really that huge? Do you stare at men's butts on the street instead of focusing on your surroundings?
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>wuwon livestream
>thread becomes more alive
WHEN I SAY WU YOU SAY
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>>2192366
> Do you stare at men's butts on the street instead of focusing on your surroundings?
Yes?
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>>2192366
you're not the character on your screen chuddy
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>>2192367
Wu
O
N
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>>2192364
proof?
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>>2192367
Is it only popular here? Why isn't it popular on Reddit or TikTok?
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>>2192366
is cope about femtranny MCs ruining gacha, look at trananta after confirming the femtranny MC >>2191950
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>>2192293
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>>2192373
Its not popular here, /wuwa/ is dead
It was just one nigger spamming
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Endfield is the best gacha game on the market right now.
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>>2192365
Never understood this "argument". You can already run around as a girl in these gacha games lmao
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>>2192372
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>>2192381
WUWOOOOOOOON
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>>2192377
iunno man
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>>2192365
Thisss, i want to look down and see my real vagina
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>>2192388
Neck yourself, troon.
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>>2192211
I think this is the seventh time wuwa has used this writing device. Just like how 95% of the "story" in 2.X was backstory of how awful the childhood of every character was.
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>>2192278
>keeps posting mp4
>zero gameplay
cool
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>>2192387
Damn, /wuwa/ bodied /bag/
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>>2192388
same sis
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>>2192394
>>2192387
Total Wuwin Victory
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>>2192392
I don't think we have any focus on childhood for any 2.x character...
Nor does the "seventh time wuwa has used this writing device"
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>>2192387
>8 ppm on livestream hour
Literally any general reaches minimum of 16 ppm on livestream day be it /gig/ /bag/ /hsrg/ /zzzg/ /xivg/
What the hell is /wuwa/ actually dead
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1 win out of many losses is still a win
wuwon wuwon!
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https://x.com/WoAxia/status/2100621083254870122

Thoughts on the BA genre?
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>>2192405
>read comments
>SAAR DO NOT BE REDEEMINGS OF THE LAST GAME ONLY TWO OF THOSE ARE NEXONâ„¢ GAMES YOU CAN'T SAY THEY ARE RELATED
why are japs like this
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>>2192405
The Dynamis One-likes genre*
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>>2192378
This but unironically
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>>2192405
Nexgods and the two flops
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>>2192405
Nexonslop and two good games.
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>>2192378
Games should be judged by the most objective metric, player retention. Which automatically puts HSR and Wuwa at the bottom then ZZZ.
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>>2192400
>carlotta
>7 hour backstory of her childhood
>roccia
>same
>phoebe
>same
>brant
>didn't do it
>zani
>same
>etc.
go and watch the trailer of every 2.X character. literally everyone has a model of when they were little other than brant. go watch their companion quests (disguised as main story), half of it is their childhood backstory
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>>2192344
that's based as fuck
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I find fascinating how wuwa surviving the early days and improving itself completely mindbroke an entire gacha community, like anyone that plays others can attest to this, if you mention wuwa in any way that is not shitting on it you'll get at least 3 schizos seething and rage replying, others will say how dare you mention it, say how the game is full of elitists or whatever
Needs higher specs to gatekeep them harder
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Sept 30.
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>>2192417
they are just salty their favorite games will never improve like wuwa
take a look at /hsrg/, the trannies there are absolutely buckbroken by the current state of the game
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Wu? Won.
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>>2192417
>improve
Explain why players keep quitting much faster than other games then. Explain why 3.7 livestream had one of the lowest viewerships a couple of months after the cyperpunk collab.

Wuwa did not improve what matters. It made its combat worse over time. It made its map exploration, its core gameplay, worse over time. It only improved adding mp4 as if this is a movie and not a game. It doesn't handle endgame well too. Yet you keep slurping it like a good dog.
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>>2192418
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>here's your 6 hour long stream /v/ thread
>a third is shin talking to himself
oof ouch owie
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>>2191950
No way this is real
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>>2192421
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>>2191950
Chinks won't accept this
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>>2192421
Oof
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>>2192431
Chink games all have this actually, they really love fags over there.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aD-p8ufd5IM
Looks more fun than AssOral
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>>2192427
based shin just doing what he loves
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>>2192427
>>>/v/748015716
>even wuwa's strongest soldier is losing his faith in kuro
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>>2191994
>used to have touch mechanics in their games
>now they just report you to the ccp if you try to move your camera to a certain angle
No such thing as tech otakus they all became luddites.
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>Named SHIN
>As in GenSHIN
>Been nonstop shit stirring with wuwa for years
>Never seen in the wuwa general ever
>T-totally a wuwa player btw
I wonder how much hoyo pays these losers, the losers in /here/ included. Must pay better than pagpag at least.
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with the Wuthering Wave 3.7, players will be able to redeem a premium chair for Rover to sit on
this is actually good preparation for the upcoming collab
so player friendly
KEKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
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>>2192449
WUWATCHERS WON
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>Named SHIN
>As in GenSHIN
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>>2192039
its made for teens exploring their gay side for the first time so its very appealing to that demographic
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>>2192449
>with the Wuthering Wave 3.7, players will be able to redeem a premium chair for Rover to sit on
for $350
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>>2192449
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So I tried to explain to my bros in /wuwa/ on how Solon is getting greedier but they shouted back at me.

What do?
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>>2192448
SHiN was known way before genshit
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>>2192039
>most pretentious story possible
What is pretentious about it? You can't even define the word let alone give a single example.
>generic edgy designs & artstyle
The artstyle is very unique and edgy doesn't mean anything it's a nonsense word.
>horrible gameplay
You're right about this one.
>okay music
Nonplaint
>absolutely dogshit menus
Another nonplaint but sure whatever.

You sound like a bitter burnout, just move on like I did instead of letting your ex live rent free in your head.
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>>2192457
Solon is long gone ww is just a Tencentâ„¢ game now, he is just the sock puppet
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>>2192099
>game is generous
>if you don't roll
wooaahwwowwow
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>>2192457
>So I tried to explain to my bros in /wuwa/ on how Solon is getting greedier but they shouted back at me.
ill shout at you too retard

1. why are you trying to reason with SEApags
2. how were you not already put on high alert when during the Zani Patch, they added "improvements" to the "elemental system" when those improvements have a very clear intend of making team building extremely restrictive
3. In that very same anniversary patch, they start introducing spending events.
4. They added Endstate Matrix. A game mode with FOMO permanent cosmetics and requires at least 6 if not more fully decked out teams to obtain a FOMO cosmetic. Where the "F2P friendly weapons" cannot be shared or be reused across characters so things like stringmaster & EoG are devalued
5. Collab gallore
6. Exploration & level design is now so easy that map design becomes an after thought and can be done using AI to reduce cost since if they player can ZIP from point A to point B in nanoseconds and access any terrain in an instant, why would bother putting effort into level design.
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>>2192448
even wuwafags hate that nigga...
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>>2192158
I tried it last year, they gave me 3 singles after finishing an hour long tutorial. Laughed my ass off and went back to my normal games. The game clearly doesn't want new players.
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>>2192387
>already disappeared from the list
>even a random genshin thread is more active
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>>2192465
wow gacha when?
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>spend $400 gweilo and you'll a free cuck chair
and wusaars will still defend this like their honor in on the line.
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>>2192039
Uh oh
Underagetroons are not going to like this one
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>>2192457
You can't reason with people who don't want to be reasoned with.
poodrones have an inferiority complex that doesn't help.
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>>2192448
>Never seen in the wuwa general ever
We wish
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>>2192462
I can deal with greed. Gachas are greedy by default.
Now this? Nah man.
Hsin looks like she'll also be a hold m1 character.
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>>2192472
>You can't reason with people who don't want to be reasoned with
reminds me of a certain baggot
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But what does it do?
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>>2192474
>story fight
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>>2192474
>Hsin looks like she'll also be a hold m1 character.
she also functions as an off-field DPS character
very mobile friendly
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>>2192477
don't matter you would autoparry attacks anyway.

>b-b-but my holograms
yeah sure, once in a blue moon.
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>>2191960
that's not even their slogan anymore
they buried any otaku feelings once genshit came out and they hard pivoted to normietroons
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>>2192477
>story fight
how is story fight an excuse
when a Genshin's 2.5 story fight and
https://youtu.be/vrofDtY72MA?si=Uj8AxiT_JFHXqsaP&t=155

WUTHERING WAVES 1.0 story fight
https://youtu.be/18OyYALOZ7o?si=LUpFnJe0HvHFbO0i&t=491
require more interaction with the story boss mechanic

than a 3.6 Wuwa story boss
but hey theyve made improvements though
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>>2192474
its funny how even endfield, which is literally built to be a hold m1 game, has more depth than this
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damn what happened to wuwa?
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>>2192418
kuro spent all their transformation budget for 3.x on aemeath. All they can afford now is palette swap.
Sad!
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[UPLIFTING NEWS]
I was playing BA and got a boner.
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>>2192488
nte design is still as ugly as ever
sad
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>>2192484
Wuwa is literally the easiest open world game. It's so mindnumbingly braindead.
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>CEO chair
>poor cuck chair
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>>2192494
topkek
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>>2192481
I'll ignore your entire conversation to comment on this:
>https://youtu.be/vrofDtY72MA
Epic mix of classic instruments from the real world location that inspired the region in the game and modern instruments to give the music more supernatural themes.
>https://youtu.be/18OyYALOZ7o
Generic action/suspense stock music that every single western action film and game uses.

Music is the only category in which no other gacha game has been able to beat Genshin.
Also learn to remove URL trackers from your links. Other games always treat music as an afterthought and sometimes even outsource it to a third party, when it’s an essential element that makes the world feel alive and shows that at least one person was passionate about the game.
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>>2192494
>genshin adds a cuck chair
>solon: WUWA NEEDS A MORE LUXURIOUS KEK CHAIR
topkeki
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>>2192494
daaamn, Rover gets the cuck THRONE
his bvll is gonna LOVE this
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>>2192418
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>>2192486
Frover won MASSIVELY
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>>2192494
>GODther's chair has an extra spot for his wife
>KEKver has plenty of space for a good jerking in all positions
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>>2192501
>the cuck THRONE
fucking kek
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>>2192502
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>>2192508
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>>2192431
Nigga its a NETEASE games, pandering to fags is their whole schtick
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>you need to activate the spending event before it counts
How many chargebacks we expecting?
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>>2192509
A shame her playable model kept the spats, hopefully the chinks will make a stink about it and get hotta to change it like they did with shinku's jk skin.
Irregardless, her bond skin makes up for it.
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>>2192509
>>2192508
>>2192502
foxfeet soon
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>>2192510
the mltrannies fear this
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>>2192514
>kuro finally updating the photomode because NTE left them in the dust
You're whalecum.
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>>2192514
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>>2192490
You're a straight man?
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>>2192517
meanwhile the power of UE5
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Why didn't Genshin annouce a spending event for their anniversary?
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>>2192522
they already announced MA one year ago
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>>2192514
why does he look so zesty
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>wuwa gets yet another spending even
>NTE gets a free 10 pull on top of the usual free 10 pull that comes with a new patch
If you didn't know anything about either game, you would assume NTE is the game with the 50/50 just going by how generous they are with pulls.
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>>2192520
SOVL
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Ananta is looking to be most pozzed Gacha game ever made
whats gonna be our cope when It succeeds massively?
https://x.com/Ananta_HQ/status/2100298987588706366?s=20
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>>2192528
I can't believe rover is going to lose his crown as zestiest MC to ananta guy.
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>>2192525
you forgot
>wuwa gets another spending event
>while ALSO giving out LESS pulls for their patch freebies
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>>2192528
Not a gacha game so it doesn't count :^)
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>>2191901
why is every attack a long ass animation? just walk up to the enemy and hit it ffs.
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>>2192405
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>>2192528
notice how all the leaktrannies always show lgbt content
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>>2192528
FujoSTACIES are FEASTING
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>>2192536
thats clearly the demo they're chasing
Taffy cant hold Chenxiu anyways, only a strong BVLL can hold him up
https://x.com/Ananta_HQ/status/2100553466611380703?s=20
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>>2192481
Because these are gacha games, made to be playable on phones. Even the ones you posted are braindead easy.
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>>2192528
it makes gay porn looks fkin straight lmao
NTECHAD literally worried for nothing
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>>2192538
>male choker
wtf is this shit?
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>>2192525
dont forget 2 selector for free
how other gacha game can compete at this point
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>>2192538
I know they need to hide the neck seam somehow but come on bro. That shit looks gay as fuck.
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>>2192525
nte must be doing pretty bad to give out free gibs like this
not even zzz is that desperate
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>>2192537
>>2192540
>>2192542
>>2192544
Ananta is the first mixed toilet thats actually pandering to women
We're about to see Genshin 2.0
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>>2192545
NTE is doing so well, hotta is adding an exclusive club for spenders next patch.
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GENWOOOOOOON
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why is wuwa being greedy if there the second best gacha right now?
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>>2192548
how is this better than spending event?
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>>2192528
>>2192538
I'll tell you one thing and I'm not ashamed to say it, my estimation of ananta guy as a man just fucking plummeted
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>>2192554
very concerning isnt it
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>>2192554
Zesty MCs are the future old man, get with the times
Yaoi is good for you
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So ananta looked at NTE telling the fags and fujos to fuck off and thought
>that's it. there's our niche
fucking lmao
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>>2192488
https://youtu.be/fmqdT6HcYgs
When a game is so dogshit it creates the impossible collab.
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>>2192559
correct, you have to diversify, the MLwells are dry
fags, fujos and yumes are an untapped market, Netease knows this
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>>2192540
ayo this faggot looks at gay porn
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>>2192528
https://x.com/Ananta_HQ/status/2101357390377669109
https://x.com/Ananta_HQ/status/2100811246169657425
That account is 100% either fujo or a faggot lmao
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>>2192553
You don't need to pay real money if you budget correctly, and they're giving everyone 2mil funnimoney >>2192525
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>>2192059
>>2192071
You can get every character without interracting with gacha at all with the sole exception of banners that happen once every 4 months. So people just roll once every 4 months (as there's 0 reason to roll outside of that, you can just get characters for playing the game).

The "subscription" is a 10$ battlepass once every 8-9 months. With this battlepass you're just getting characters for playing the game 3 times faster + get a max rarity character, 2 unique skills (that you can still just farm) and a lot of resources for leveling up your characters.
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>>2192564
check xis location
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Damn nte giving out more free characters
They are so fucking scared and desperate. They know if they don't give freebies there are absolutely no other things worth getting attached to. Specially now that ananta is around the corner.
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>>2192538
>a fucking choker on the male MC
BRO
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>>2192564
>That account is 100% either fujo or a faggot lmao
exactly what ananta wants, xhe is over the moon
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>>2192569
>They are so fucking scared and desperate
actually it's called being generous
something hoyo and kuro will never be :)
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>>2192088
>Genuinely how is Nikke actually generous?
It has a 4% SSR rate which is legitimately almost 700% higher than many other gacha games, as well as having a Mileage system that is the best of both worlds between sparking and "building pity' since you get permanent tickets for rolling on any banner and can instantly cash them out for whoever is on rate-up no questions asked, they never expire or run out, so once you've been playing for a while you can just roll for whoever and get them with 4% odds or get them with mileage.
Besides seasonal limited characters like Christmas/Summer alts everyone also goes into the standard pool eventually and you can wishlist specific characters you want to be guaranteed to get from said standard pulls as well to target build your roster.
Then perhaps most importantly dupes are extremely low impact and unnecessary, there's no Constellations/etc so you get the full character ability kit with a single copy, a single line on your overload gear is more impactful.
There's also no weapon gacha so all your gacha pulls go directly towards deterministically acquiring new characters and you're not stuck with cope options. For a game that can hit top 5 in meme charts and has public shareholder reports showing it's made hundreds of millions this is quite impressive; the main monetization in Nikke is via skin sales and battle passes.

There's plenty of other things to criticize about the game but in terms of gacha mechanics I think it's absolutely indisputable that Nikke has the best system, unfortunately the only game I know of that copied it so far is Star Savior
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>>2192572
Nigga gacha companies aren't generous dumbass, we are all numbers to them.
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>>2192574
not according to /nteg/ tho, they love PW over there
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>>2192564
he makes MRover looks straight
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>wuwa giving rover a literal cuck throne
>ananta looking like a fujoshit's wet dream
Guys you were supposed to give NTE competition, not double down on the cuckshit and/or troon out before even releasing.
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>>2192574
>Nigga gacha companies aren't generous dumbass, we are all numbers to them.
this is true the only difference between them are that some gacha games have clearly more passion put into it than others

like for FGO
other game companies use covid as an excuse for a less than stellar product
Nasu used his time in covid to write a story the span the length of half of the Lord of the Rings Trilogy for Lostbelt 6
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wuwa is only doing early spend event because of tencent
they just need to leave tencent and be better again
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>>2192574
Hotta understands the way they make money is by selling skins, and no one is going to buy a skin for a character they don't have. So no 50/50 and pull currency is generous enough to guarantee the character you want.
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Netease is the most foid friendly company in China, their shit is gay as fuck. If you expect Ananta to be some paradise for straight men then you will be very disappointed.

Just let the game flop.
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>>2192583
damn how couldn't any other companies for straight men overtake them yet
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Friendly reminder that WuWabros are the real friends and you lot are disgusting shitskins who lack empathy
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ananta saw wuwa in the century of humiliation and said
>hey can I join you?
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>>2192583
>flop
women will turn Ananta into a runaway success, Genshit/Wuwa/ZZZ/Endflop/AP/SP/Mongil can fight for the overcrowded and diminishing male market
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>>2192262
>Underage relationship?
ao is set in 1889, with the existence of magic advancing technology a hundred years ahead of the real world so it looks like the late 80's/early 90's
by 1800s laws they're all perfectly legal and not underage. They're lucky they aren't being made to work in coal mines
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Yup Ananta won
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>>2192591
Sisters won so fucking hard, meanwhile all MLgames keep flopping....
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>>2192322
this woman owes me nursing handjobs
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>>2192587
>WuWabros are the real friends
if he was a real friend, he would pay $350 for a herman miller chair to watch them while having a perfect sitting posture
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>>2192591
>>2192583
where winds meet is full of gay shit and canon homosex (the most popular BL genre in chink novels is wuxia/xianxia stuff) so idk why anyone would expect ananta to not also be gay as fuck.You will cut off your dick and start practicing the Sunflower Manual and get an Extreem Yin Constitution allowing you to get pregnant from your Pure Yang Body homo lover and like it.
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>>2192449
the cuck couch or a hospital bed as the game is on life support once hsin banner ends
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>>2192595
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>>2192591
>NTE male/male content
>platonic male bonding
>ananta male/male content
>bro princess carrying bro into a bathroom stall to do a little fudge packing
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>>2192560
lmao imagine giving this fkin twat a views
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>>2192500
saint cock gobbler...
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>>2192598
kek you sound extremely experienced with gayshit
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>>2192606
know your enemy
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>>2192606
the sunflower manual is a real thing in the most influential wuxia book series ever written in the Smiling, Proud Wanderer (think the chinese equivalent to Conan, very popular pulp serial adventure books written in the 60's).
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>>2192517
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New BA kino
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Wuwonkeys do be like that
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Where is that SAO collab you were melting about few threads ago?
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>>2192569
Is not like you can lose a 50/50 to standard characters, anyway Hotta is being generous since day 1 every patch, they are just keeping it up
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>>2192618
didn't have enough money for it so spending event will fund it, even has the chair ready for the collab
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summer's deep into darkness unfulfilled, my hearth runneth over.
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>>2192583
I was even less interested in playing it after they said there wouldn't be fast travel. seriously, how delusional do you have to be to think that's a good idea?
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>>2192332
I've never won anything in my life so I doubt this weekend has a good chance of changing that.
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>>2192589
women are busy playing that sims/pokemon simulator to care about meme gachas
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>>2192364
By playing as a girl you have removed the chance of getting the only thing from girls that is worth getting.
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>another femcsloppa
grim
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>>2192634
>I've never won anything in my life
>As he types this post with internet access and a roof over his head
holy victimmaxxing
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>>2192378
I'm not gay but when he double grabbed my hand like that I'm pretty sure it moved and it wasn't just a small twitch.
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>>2192641
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>another thread ruined by wujeets
Is it ever possible to have a single thread not ruined by these retards seething at all other games?
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>>2192647
they literally have one of the best livestream today
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>cuckchair for only 399.99 USD
truly the best livestream of the year
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>>2192647
Weird that's not what you see if you read the thread. Maybe you have a special filter i don't know about.
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>>2192648
Keep telling yourself that. Maybe it will become true one day.
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>>2192648
best at milking their retarded player maybe KEK
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Genshin could never...
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>buy the wuwa cuck chair
>or use the same money and get a cuck chair IRL
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>>2192648
have a (You)
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>>2192646
If at least they had made it a ML game, then MLgods would have overlooked the game's flaws. But Manjuu instead thought they could aim for a wider audience while making a game that's not even as good as its competitors, and releasing weeks before Ananta of all things lol.

Global is their last hope, let's see if they have any surprises to show here. After all they couldn't possibly have delayed global's marketing this long without having anything to show for it, right?
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>>2192405
BA
BA2
BA3
BA4
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excuse you, it is NOT a cuck chair.....
it is a cuck THRONE
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>>2192672
Landskrona is a nice place. It deserves better.
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>>2192612
russia wank again?
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>>2192672
>cuck chair
isn't that a zzz thing?
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The most popular thread ever on Tieba Genshin bar is also about a gay ship. Chinese love that stuff.
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>>2192695
>>2192469
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so what else was notable from the wuwa stream? I saw they're updating the photomode, doing another spending event, and adding a cuck throne. Anything else?
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>>2192588
just fuck my shit up
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>>2192695
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>>2192696
Which ship?
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>>2192707
Dottore/Pantalone
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/10930402777
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KEK
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https://youtube.com/shorts/q489cc6QrG0?si=82CjCb7v8U3yuivP
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67zYd276U0E
>post from 3 months ago
why is this generating shit now
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>>2192718
what pokemon is this?
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goddamn man I have no idea what to pick in all these genshin selectors coming up.
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is genshin the madara uchiha of gachas? can any gacha touch let alone defeat genshin?
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>>2192648
So good none were talking about it
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At this point just put wuwapags on suicide watch holy shit
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>>2192731
ZOOOOOOOWOOOOOOOOOOOOON
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>>2192731
sorry, wuwa is a game for the rich white. You pagpags can play your free zzz with black asses for black people
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>>2192721
Because a few weeks ago, a tencent owned company started using DMCA takedowns on just about anyone streaming genshin, including jap VAs that voice genshin characters.
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>>2192736
is that seriously what's going on in the gacha side. only heard anime is getting hit with shit too
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i remember that one anon that pointed out that jeets latch onto poowa because they perceive it as high izzat because of how greedy kuro is; so they see it as a status symbol despite being literally too poor to even run the game
it still makes me chuckle every time there's new poowa info dropping
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>>2192744
If tencent has their hand in anything related to anime production, it makes sense. This kind of behavior is typical of them.
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Jesus WuSaar posting is so boring
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>>2192756
DO ANYONE REAAAAAALLY CARE ABOUT WUWA WORLD AND IT'S CHARACTERS?
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>BA arc is boring
>wuwa arc is boring
Has anyone considered posting actual drama? Like gacha drama?
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>claims he doesn't care about wuwa
>claims nobody cares about wuwa
>can't stop mentioning it all day
gacha drama indeed
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>>2192731
>ZZZ keeps giving free shit
>Game is still dying because they can't retain any players
>WuWa not giving free shit all the time
>Actually growing each year and retaining players
Make of this what you will
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>how do you do my fellow /gaydudes/, don't you think clowning on wuwa is boring?
Nah, it's still pretty fun.
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>>2192766
But when Genshin does that is bad?
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>>2192760
both of those deserve to be clowned and shat on
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>>2192760
I dunno man, I'm enjoying the AP dooming arc so far
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>>2192766
>Actually growing each year and retaining players
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>>2192767
It's boring because nobody plays the game
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>>2192615
good image for next OP
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>>2192500
Is there ANYTHING that wuwa won't copy?
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>>2192775
>>Actually growing each year and retaining players
bless his heart
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>>2192773
TRVKE
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>>2192782
The door's closing. Should've joined WUWON while you still had the chance
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>>2192782
>red
>red
>red
Surely he's colorblind
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>>2192766
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>>2192786
where's lads?
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>>2192787
6 feet deep
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Spending events are pathetic and there is no way to positively spin them without looking like a feces eating cucklord
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Why do retards talk about spending events like it's something they are strapped down in a chair and forced to buy at gunpoint? Do none of you have any self control? Do you not enjoy earning anything in game? Games are more fun when you don't spend.
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>>2192790
>the only good gacha is Genshin
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remember when assoral was supposed to be THE lolige to surpass all loliges? yeah...
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>>2192795
Actual goycattle behavior
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>>2192615
KEK
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>why can't you just shut up about a spending event with limited cosmetics that will never returned
>don't you see that one-time cosmetics that never gets rerunned and requires hundreds of dollars is acceptable and is good for the game
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i dont think ive seen wuwa give a free skin or accessory or a character selector
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>>2192799
We used to mock horse armor
Now the internet is full of "saar i am brahmin saar i afford the pixel saar"
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>>2192782
Now post ZZZ :)
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>3.1
Top up event.
>3.3
Pull spending event
>3.4
Pull spending event.
>3.5
Pull spending event
>3.6
Top up event

WU
WON
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>>2192775
>>Actually growing each year and retaining players
Yes, stay mad
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>>2192806
>mobile revenue
So kuro is spending over $200,000,000 on wuwa marketing. That's fucking wild.
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>>2192805
actually 3.3 was also a collab banner with a new currency you could only obtain by paying too
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>>2192801
we take out loans now for pixels
https://tech.yahoo.com/general/articles/guys-stop-taking-loans-league-112123733.html
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>figures were aggregated from the screenshots posted in this subreddit's monthly revenue threads
>Do with this information what you will, go forth and spread your agenda
https://youtu.be/tQzwzkleOWs?t=13
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>tfw you see another development about how tencent is being a piece of shit or how kuro is raping and gaping wuwa players with more greedy bullshit
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>kuro spend hundred millions on ads
>60% of revenue goes to Tencent
yet wujeet celebrate that their game is doing better
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Sirs, another randoseru loli has hit Blue Archive.
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>>2192796
No I don't remember that.
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Looks, xisters. Nobody cares about your made up definitions of ML. You exist only to poison the well. ML is harem and that's all there is to it.
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dead /gdg/ theory, it's one pag talking about the same shit until he goes to sleep
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no new wuwa character drip until the spend event is over ?
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>>2192809
AND they added a new banner with exclusive currency and no carry over to hold old units hostage instead of doing regular reruns. So any new or returning player is mega fucked
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>>2192815
Finally some real cunny
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>>2192818
Requiemschizo is extremely mentally ill.
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People say loli doesn't sell but I keep seeing the Endfield lolis absolutely everywhere and there's dozens of videos about them
How come other gachas don't monetize this goldmine? Even so called 'lolicon' games like ZZZ only have a bunch of support lolis that press a button and fuck off or are just straight up bricks
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>>2192815
what is shigure ui doing here?
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>>2192766
>growing each year
is this growth in the room with us...?
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>>2192828
>>growing each year
>ATH 3 months ago
yeah?
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WU WA WU WA WOCK YOU (SING IT)
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>>2192815
pedochud diddy incel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>2192825
CCP rapes your game if it has too many sexy lolis unless you have connections.
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>>2192825
same reason those very same games keep releasing males that sell like shit, same reason they keep releasing yuri bait that goes nowhere and hurts sales. they aren't doing things for money
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Damn, W Marco, well said!

https://x.com/Marcodmeatball/status/2101126097630888234
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>>2192795
>"lock it behind an archon quest"
I quit genshin after 1.0 and genuinely dislike mihoyo as a company now because I'm a bitter HI3 veteran who remembers when they were actually about "TECH OTAKU SAVE THE WORLD" and not muppets with the CCP's hand up their ass pushing censored slop propaganda, but what the fuck is this wuwigger actually meaning to say with this complaint? How is locking free shit behind playing the main story quest worse than.......locking shit behind a PAID SPENDING EVENT that requires spending like $300 to get a shitty cuck throne cosmetic?????

Every fucking game encourages you to play through the main story, that's the entire fucking point. Welfares obtained from the main story are still welfares. This is like bitching that Mash's NP upgrade in FGO is locked behind clearing Camelot, no fucking shit she's literally goddamn Galahad
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>>2192800
>character selector
they handed one out in 1.0 after the enormous backlash and bugged gacha rates made it so something like 75% of people polled said they got Lingyang as their starter banner standard character.
I got lingyang'd TWICE in 1.0 before uninstalling
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>>2192840
this guy always have a wall of text. so maybe hes just using chatgpt at this point
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>>2192835
all i see in that pic is a porsche collab doing wonders (and being repeated soon) and two hags outselling the rest
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the takeaway from this chart is not "more hebes"
it's "more drunken japanese yamato nadeshiko's who get wasted and rape you"
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>>2192835
>Loli is the best selling chara in the game
Gamers crave the loli but games wont give it to them
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>>2192848
chaos bro...
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>>2192854
they wont, because (failed) normgroids make more money
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>>2192854
Because the chinks don't want to be sent to a chink gulag
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>>2192856
Not even normgroids like worms, overall
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>>2192858
but china makes a bunch of lolis all the time and they all end up super popular?
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>>2192851
zankou also sold comparably better than her adjacent banners, requiemschizo didn't take the news well
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>requiemschizo
Who?
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>>2192866
NTE's monkey uses the term "requiemschizo" for anyone into loli characters and cries nonstop about it in /nteg/

Now you're caught up.
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>>2192866
The pag that links /nteg/ here every time he has a melty
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>>2192851
god I love drunk ojou-samas
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>>2192867
Thank you for the lore.
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>>2192866
The same brown that gets BTFO by the AL GAWD
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>>2192867
>NTE's monkey uses the term "requiemschizo" for anyone into loli characters and cries nonstop about it in /nteg/
Lmao the fuck
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>>2192872
>>2192870
Also he gets deleted for samefagging a LOT in ther but continues crying and shitting almost immediately after
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/text/requiemschizo/

Nobody knows why he's so mindbroken or why he acts like that but he's been driving out most of /nteg/'s posters with his constant schizo meltdowns
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>>2192867
this can't be a real human being
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>requiemschizo melty begins
>wuwaseethe completely stops
hmmmm coincidence?
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Kek xe got so called out xe started desperately info dumping xis narrative
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does every general have that one tranny shitting themselves about loli? really starting to believe the conspiracy theory of discords dedicated to this shit
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>>2192873
lol
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>>2192878
You didn't see the expose? There's a whole football stadium of people dedicated to shitting this place up.
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>>2192867
>>2192873
>both /bag/ and /nteg/ have a monkey mindbroken by lolis
Wtf
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>>2192881
There was an expose?
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>>2192878
theres just something about lolis that pushes peoples buttons for some reason, its the most egregious form of cute aggression
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>>2192883
Yeah some american football stadium has a bunker where gods chosen people monitor 4chan for antisemitism.
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I thought ZZZ and NTE were supposed to kill WuWa? What happened?
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>conversation changes topic
Masaka... could it be... that I was talking to the same group of people all along? *takes med*
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>>2192888
>kill
none of these fake competition has anyone killing anything as long as theyre still big and alive. its the same dumbshit consolewar arguments between snoys vs nintendo and apple vs samsung
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>>2192882
/sora/ had one too but it quit after they revealed summer fmaou
/czn/ also has some idiots that shit themselves over loli and flats, especially since the game used to be all slampigs at the start and the flat girls are becoming more popular than the fatties
/zzz/ has one retard that gets utterly mindbroken over the angel loli trio
/gig/ had one retard having nonstop gore/scat melties over the child model characters but I havent checked that place in eons
There's likely more, these are only off the top of my head.
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>>2192885
It's just a lack of knowledge thing. In the 80's my mom thought teenage mutant ninja turtles and he-man was satanic propaganda because she had no idea what it really was about and didn't have the inclination to find out and just trusted what Focus on the Family told her.
Normalfags hear the word loli and assume it means literal child rape.
Compound that with everyone living online and anything you do or say that goes against the narrative can have life ruining consequences and they just aren't even willing to explore further and find out the truth.
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Wuwa 3.7 is the "most viewed" livestream yet
the hype is real
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>>2192888
>72
>232
>273
The difference is THAT big huh
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im glad im playing a game thats made for me and not some revenue and social media game that only makes investor happy
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>>2192894
Game just keeps growing and growing while their competition is crumbling
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>>2192889
KEK
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>>2192888
Mind you zzz and nte just had a new patch while wuwa have Jingran's banner with fucking nothing
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>>2192896
I found a game like that once, hope I can find another one before I die.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls5utfQ1InM
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>>2192899
Nte didnt had a new patch
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>>2192896
Same
This game was truly made for me
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I like Wuwa
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I like trains
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>>2192891
I didn't quit though
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Want a female instructor (voiced by Rina Sato) with a fully mechanical body whose arm transforms into a Gatling gun? In Punishing: Gray Raven, you can get her for free without using any gacha!
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>>2192922
I tried that game and it made my fingers hurt. Oddest control scheme I've ever seen.
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All the free stuff goes into PGR while wuwa milked us dry
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>>2192894
This is because YouTube change how they count view
Every YouTube video now avg a lot more view as they now count view from the first second like tiktok
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>>2192888
>ZZZ and NTE are losing to THIS right now btw
>A 2nd banner homo who's right before a new Sentinel resonator waifu
>ZZZ's current banner is a waifu who's a new class + currently being shilled in endgame + leaked to be BIS for the next VH
>Still losing to this
How does this even happen?
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https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV19eeX6bEdV
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>>2192927
ZZZ is a game without identity that rolls a roulette on who to pander every patch and NTE is an AI generated game that isn't ashamed of using AI for everythingg
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>>2192928
I love this fish
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>>2192927
Not a void hooonter
simply as
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>>2192927
He's also flopping
not that it would make it looks any better for the other game
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>>2192927
you can tell he want to get fucked in that position
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gacha is dying
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gaming is dying because they cant afford new pc
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I'm playing old games in emulators these days
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>>2192927
hi shin will you be dropping $350 for the bench?
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>>2192943
>the bench
It is the LUNAR KEKOLD THRONE, pleb
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>>2192938
I'm wuwaing on laptop thoughbeit
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>>2192945
>KEKOLD
CUCΚED
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>>2192888
Nobody but you thinks they are competing
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>>2192927
>How does this even happen?
>>
>gendahlit
regular cuckold
>wubrahmin
space cuckold deluxe

everything genshin does
wuwa does better
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poowa is literally killing itself
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>>2192888
watching the ever-decreasing standards of who woowoos try and pick a fight with is hilarious.
It's the equivalent of a fully-grown man getting his ass absolutely demolished in a 1v1 fight with his neighbor he hates, and knows he can't win the rematch, so he just goes to the local high-school to fight a 15 year old, but then he gets his ass kicked again, so he goes to the middle school, then the elementary school, and now we're at the point that this guy who was originally a grown man comparing himself to another grown man is bragging about going 12-rounds of bitter combat with a kindergartener.
and some months the kindergartener still wins.
bro, you don't get to fucking pretend that WuWa didn't spend a year larping as the "Genshin Killer" the same way PGR players bragged about copying HI3 but adding homosexuals to the gacha pool instead of being all-female valkyries.

A few months from now will you be picking fights with Silver Palace and Azur Promilia too? Anything to avoid embarrassment and forget your shame? Get an intervention or something. This is embarrassing.
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10cent is literally sending mihoyo into bankruptcy
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>>2192956
>same way PGR players bragged about copying HI3 but adding homosexuals to the gacha pool
they still refuse to remove them to this day btw
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>>2192956
>the same way PGR players bragged about copying HI3 but adding homosexuals to the gacha pool instead of being all-female valkyries
BASED BASED BASED
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PGR could have been so good without the homos.
People forget or do not know how beloved HI3 pre-censorship was
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>>2192899
>me when I lie on the internet to shill poowa
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>>2192927
Maybe trying to pander to different audience after 2 years wasn't a good idea for ZZZ
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>>2192956
>bro, you don't get to fucking pretend that WuWa didn't spend a year larping as the "Genshin Killer"
Bloody bastard, WUWON already killed genshit, we moved on to self defense against other anti-wuwa communities.
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>>2192799
I blocked a guy on twitter who used this pfp and was called something like "kudog dog". I'm a hoyoGAWD through and through but anti-kurofags are incredibly cringe and need to stop with the spamming. Unless you're some kind of tencent reverse psyop then carry on ig, you're doing a good job.
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>>>/v/748054182
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>>2192967
>968 threads made by this tripcode
>in just 2 years
>basically all of them WuWa related
>on average one per day at least
>only 91 were deleted
How come /v/ jannies tolerate this attention whore? Genshin and Deltarune get raped under the no generals bullshit but he doesn't.
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>>2192969
/v/ is just an advertisement board at this point
A fuckton of gachas have generals over there like cuck dust, gf2, zzz and i'm not gonna list every gacha but there's so many and companies actually pay for this
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>>2192970
>zzz
Most ZZZ /v/ threads are just ERP. Put up a Burnice OP and you'll get BLACKED ERP instantly and it'll stay up
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GOT WUWA ON WU WACE A BIG DISGRACE WHIPPING YOUR WUWA ALL WOVER THE PLACE
WU
WA
WU
WA
WOCK U!!
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nothing ever happen
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>Chat with most gacha players
>Characters, story, memes and sometimes gameplay
>Chat with wuwa players
>How much wuwa is better than other gacha
Every time
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>>2192927
half of the sales are from the 2 girls reruns
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Why dost wuwa anti talks like a girl
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>>2192970
And I'm sure 90% of them do it for free
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>>2192978
It really do be like that
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>open gdg
>it's either wuwon
>or how much better x game is compare to wuwa
I'm bored
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What else can we talks about but wuwa. It's the only relevant gacha
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...after mihoyo
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POO status?
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>CTRL+F "Wu" ITT
>168 results
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>>2192017
>He only can post Samsung galaxy numbers because every other metric WuWa BTFO's his ZZZslop
KEKAROOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>
yikes
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>>2193011
>>2193011
>>2193011
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>>2192995
just shat out a massive POOWON
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>730
>197
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>>2192998
Denia managed to mind control a lots of mihomo's CC
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How dost wuwaGAWDS mindbroke them so easily
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https://x.com/Wuthering_Waves/status/2101281400183746958/photo/1
Official source
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nigga be pixilated an image and call it slop
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>>2193026
>>2193030
withering sales is running out of funds and is now resorting to AI...sad...
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https://www.gamespark.jp/article/2025/12/02/160096.html
Why's mihomo so obsessed with wuwa?
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Not gonna call for the janny this time mr thread police?
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>>2193040
Why?
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>>2193040
hi janny
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You're not gonna believe this
But both This thread and the other one was made by one nigga
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>>2193050
>genshin is greedy
We say this
>wuwa is greedy
We say this
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>>2193013
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>deleted
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>>2193050
spending is optional bro theyre not forcing you to do it
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I'm just waiting for pukaland and new fed desu.
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Japanese men are huge cuckolds
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grim
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Just saw this
>Verina over encore
Why though?
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>>2193082
>almost 2 hours without a post
Why do they do this to themselves?
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>>2193082
this is gonna be AO's future btw
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>>2193079
chinkbro...
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>>2193087
is this a leak? why is it styled up like some official post
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huh our usual retard is still spamming the /czn/ thread with AO like hardcore spam
Didn't expect him to attack them out of all people, maybe because that thread doesn't have any mods or janitors looking at it I guess?
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>>2193098
pretty sure its the tranimeposter (what they called him) that switched to ao completely
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is it schizo hours again?
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>>2193109
yeah BA bro is up
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>needs to pull the same character 6 times
>needs to pull the same spell/weapon 6 times
>has uma's card system that you will need 3 cards, each requiring you to pull the same card 6 times

wow
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>>2193112
>Has uma's card system
holy fuck thats bad
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kek he got triggered instantly
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>yeah BA bro is-ACK
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cn wuwa players are NOT happy
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>>2193115
>if you discuss AO's gacha system you are the BA bro
really
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>>2193120
? meds
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>>2193112
>>2193114
Oy vey there's nothing wrong with it
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>>2193112
>they don't advertise the gacha at all
Huge red flag
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>>2193112
>Roll for character
>Roll for chara dupes
>Roll for weapon
>Roll for weapon dupes
>Roll for support cards
>Also roll for support card dupes

No wonder they're aiming for a rushed release, they're gonna milk the fuck out of the D1/KV drama and make big money from all the idiots.
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AObros they're laughing at us..
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>>2193112
>needing that much dupes for everything
if they had a 50:50 system they would be wise to take it the fuck out after the BA fumble, if they kept that despite of it.......lol
BA for all it's faults still has the most generous awakening system of all games since you don't need to roll extra dupes to awaken a character unless you are running low on the shared awakening currency.
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>>2192829
August 2026 has a lower peak than august 2025 btw
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>>2193127
>rushed
It's coming out 2027, and the ba monkey here was laughing. So which is it? rushed is bad, but the delay is bad too?
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>>2193130
>astraea
stupid name
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>>2193139
as if fairedolia isn't a mouthful
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>>2193098
>AO shilling in that thread + BA seethe here ramped up
Weird..........
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Withering Whales
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>>2193050
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>>2193050
>>2193151
none of these matter in the grand scheme of things, many players of both games can play the game to completion without having to go deep into their pockets
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>>2193130
>Account based in Indonesia
>Connected via Indonesia Android App
Every fucking time. It's like checking a shady person's early life in Wikipedia.
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>if you hate my game then you're from indonesia
why is he like this
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>>2193151
BODIED that pag
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>>2193157
In this case he's actually from indonesia though
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>>2193050
>>2193151
these look AI generated...
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It appears that AOfags must deal with E33fags first before picking a fight with BA/Fareidolia lol
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>>2193112
Slurpers will defend this
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so which game has a naked apron loli with rain effects? Wuwa? Lmao
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>>2192971
Damn, can't believe FGOxisters had their gig stolen from them
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>>2193171
So it's HRT killer or E33 killer now?
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>>2193172
BA keks love 50/50 gacha and double banners so its catering to that audience after all
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>>2192901
>Needs saving grace and extra chance
>Teleport wand so ass it runs out of mana instantly
????
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>>2192796
I remember them baiting with children and then they dropped the women back to back and everyone started caring.
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>>2193180
Not my clip just saw it somewhere but if the mana regen is fast enough it doesn't matter if your mana runs out you can see he was instantly teleporting infinitely.
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shitting on wuwa is so boring
when are we getting 4.0?
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wuwa is fun
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>>2193174
FVAAAAARRRRKKKKK
Lolicons won
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>>2193172
kek got xhim
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>>2193185
Oh no you have never used a maxxed mana/recharge wand then. When you move real fast, the camera can't even keep up with you.
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hitting on wuwa is so fun
it gets the WUpags dancing and sizzling
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>>2193194
Ah didn't know that, I've only barely gotten into the game myself only managed to beat the first boss a couple of times and haven't done any side content yet. It's a fun little game though, I can see why autists get super into it. The wand building is pretty daunting though, even watching guides I still barely know what I'm doing and most runs never end up building one that amounts to more than just shooting a basic attack fast.
This is one of my own stupid deaths learning that shields block attacks from both directions.
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>>2193195
Kangaroos....
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>>2193174
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>>2193200
>>2193174
zankou sold better
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>>2193200
>>2193174
pure sex but silver palace doesnt have that loli game vibe so I feel like she'll just be the token loli chara
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>>2193197
If you have already beaten the final boss then you ought to start using saves and going into parallel worlds.
>But saves are cheating!
You'll learn much more with saves states and trust me, when the game crashes on you, you'll know.
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uh oh... assoral sisters...
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assoral and vaginal too because you're gonna get fucked in three holes having to gacha for 3 different things
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>>2193208
>this bad
i don't get it
i'm not sure what am i looking at
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>>2193210
Character/Character gacha
Weapon/Weapon gacha
Support card gacha (Umamusume/Star Savior)
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>>2193209
Anything to own the BA chuds, remember?
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>>2193210
it's more likely that the weapons also act as equips and support cards, the UI menu of the game only show characters and weapons
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>>2193213
So the Stella Sora system then? Know how well that turned out for them? You can ask them. Heard from someone that it has the Ascension system too and if it does then I'll gladly declare it as dead right now.
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>>2193215
>Heard from someone that it has the Ascension system too
It doesn't.
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POOWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON
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>>2193211
see >>2193112

>each team needs 4 x 6 characters
>chances are characters are divided by elements so you will need to pull 4 x 6 x N (number of elements) if you are going to tryhard in AO
>all of those characters need their own weapons which is another 4 x 6 x N
>all teams uses the uma card system which is a 3 x 6 x N

it's quite bad.
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>>2193210
could be bad, or could be the biggest nothingburger ever, there hasn't been a single high profile game with weapon banner that departed too heavily from the formula so i don't expect this one to be much different from the standard
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>AO
>High prorfile game
LMAO
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>>2193222
Kek got xim
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>>2193220
Yeah that looks like garbage like holy fuck weapon gacha is already bad and you're telling me I need to whale for support cards too? People in this thread must not have played umas and don't know the terror of support cards
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>i-i-i-it's just a nothingburger
that's the gotcha? sheesh...
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>>2193215
>So the Stella Sora system then?
wdym SS' gacha is literally more generous than BA post changes
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>zero looks at boobs when talking to hot ladies
I guess we can take him out of the asexual MC category.
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https://x.com/DynamisOnefight/status/2101501119784776111
Slurpers are just calling everyone that doesn't like the gacha system "Greedy beggars"
Assoral news are just like an humiliation ritual at this point?
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>>2193234
>whatabout hoyo
>whatabout BA
assoral fags...
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>>2193234
The more info we get about this game the worse it gets.
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>>2193234
ohnono
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>>2193234
>
BA bros not sending their best
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>>2193243
DELETE THIS
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Am I supposed to be hyped or not for 3.7? I'm getting conflicted messages here.
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>>2193232
Holy shit she saw it
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>>2193253
>notices ur bulge
>looks up and smiles
I would expect nothing less from that semen demon
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>>2193255
HAGS WON
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>>2193252
have you considered having your own opinion
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>>2193252
bro are all these from Saint?
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>>2193252
helvete
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I got into the CBT and I will explain how the gacha it works so far:

1. Gacha
The gacha got two main categories
>Characters
This is self explanatory
>"Weapons"
This is more similar to Craft Essences like FGO or Light Cones from HSR.
They aren't weapons exactly since they don't change the weapon/wand your character uses in their model.
But they are equipment from the gacha that your character equips and they provide huge bonuses, some are specifically crafted (signature) to match the character.
>Rates
The rates so far are 3% for 3* Characters and 5% for 5* Weapons
>Dupes
You need 5 character dupes to fully "upgrade" your Character
You need 5 weapon dupes to fully "upgrade" your Weapon/Cone/Craft Essence
>Bonuses
Like in Nikke, you can set the art of the Weapon/Cone/Craft Essence as the wallpaper in your lobby once it's maxed.
Characters also provide a wallpaper (not clear if you get it from max them out or from momos)
>Other equipment
There's also other equipment which you farm using stamina just like in Genshin/HSR/ZZZ/Wuwa with random substats.
You need 5 pieces of equipment for a Set bonus.
>Upgrades like UE or star ranking
The game features a rarity upgrade system, where each character rarity can be upgraded up to 6 times.
There's also a placeholder to upgrade their wand, but right now how much it can be upgraded is not accessible.
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>>2193266
this post missed the support cards on the right tho
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>>2193266
the cbt isn't out tho
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>>2193268
Didn't reviewers get early builds?
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>>2193270
journalists at TGS but only the demo that everyone played
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>play an actual generous game
>have like 3000 rolls
>have 99% of the characters maxed duped
Feels good
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>>2193266
>I got into the CBT
Do you work for NCSslop???
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>>2192564
>_HQ
Yeah every other account of Ananta that I see post the girls and their models and this faggot ONLY posts males
Never open anything of this homo
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ananta is DOA
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In other news, SURPRISE
Ananta WAS going to be a gacha game!
Back when it was called project mugen
https://x.com/KigenMaho/status/2101567649733857612
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>>2193279
surprise? this is the oldest fucking news
how unironically new are you
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>>2193279
>SURPRISE
to no one
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>>2193283
>>2193284
Damn you retards sure do know what language means
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>>2193266
>But they are equipment from the gacha that your character equips and they provide huge bonuses, some are specifically crafted (signature) to match the character.
so they ARE functionally weapons
they even work with their specific characters
why are you doing this semantics crap
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>>2193286
We knew assoral has weapon gacha a few months ago already
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>not only a weapon gacha but a card gacha as well
when it rains it pours
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>>2193299
ncslop is AO's worst enemy
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>gacha market is oversaturated
>make a predatory gacha system
>profit?
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>>2193299
the weapons are the cards tho
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>>2193306
3 gacha
>chara
>weapon
>card
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>>2193306
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>>2193307
>>2193308
yes, the weapons are also the cards or sub weapons, exactly like stella sora, 2 gachas
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>>2193309
bro there's literally 2 upgradable items that are not the characters themselves in that screenshot
if one of them are the weapons what's the other one?
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>>2193310
you can put both in either slot, exactly like stella sora
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>wuwa has to pay for their cuck chair
>genshin gets it for free
I don't know what the flex here is.
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>>2193311
so why is there a separate area set-aside for the rectangle cards that are not slotted into the characters
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>>2193313
because they have different effects depending on where they are placed, exactly like stella sora
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hold onto your seats because astrae oratio might have RNG gear just like stella sora too
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>wins by doing nothing
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>I know the last BA killer failed but lets make stella sora 2.0 but with less budget and worse gacha
FOR
WHAT
REASON
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>>2193319
>worse gacha
we don't know this tho
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>>2193320
weapons, character and support cards already makes it worse
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>>2193321
The weapons and support cards are the same thing, just like stella sora.
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they arent, though
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>keeps bringing up ss like it's a positive thing
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>>2193323
Proof?
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>>2193243
>more nips realizing how scammed they are being by AssOral's quality and asking price
kek
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>>2193312
>paying to get cucked or getting cucked for free
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>>2193325
I thought that flopped because of its femc
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>>2193309
>Possibility 1
It's true, but that means that they have copied SS, and SS's cards mechanic is famously hated
>Possibility 2
It's false, but that means 3 gacha
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>>2193325
Yeah if it's not like SS then it's bad because it means whaling for support cards and if it's like SS it's also bad because that game is on life support
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>>2193330
There's no winning here
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>>2193330
>and SS's cards mechanic is famously hated
proofs?
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>>2193339
hit up any stella sora community and ask them for their opinions on cards, ascension and emblems
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like everything it depends entirely on how much currency and rolls they give and what the SSR rate is.
in Brown Dust 2 you need 6 copies of a character to +5 them and there's collection bonuses that reward getting as many characters as possible which in theory sounds extremely greedy and predatory but the game gives you THOUSANDS of pulls and you can buy dupes in the monthly shop so the reality is it's trivial to +5 your roster and the game's main monetization is cosmetics/skins since you can get every character just by playing long enough. Same with Outerplane, which despite theoretically having a weapon gacha and character gacha in reality it has farmable shards and deterministic weapon/gear crafting and gives thousands of pulls plus farmable dupes so the only thing to spend on is the battle pass and skins.

if it was a chink game I'd be more worried since I don't think I've seen a single new chink game made the last five years that wasn't predatory as shit, but as a gook game I'll reserve judgement until I actually see. If it's dogshit like GFL2 where the difference between v0 (1 copy of a doll) and v6 (7 copies of a doll) is literally +1200% damage difference I'll gladly trash it as unplayable dogshit.
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>>2193330
Nobody hates the discs of SS tho, they give max rarity max dupe free ones all the time
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>>2193341
it's made by NCsoft who famously popularized the pay2upgrade feature in Lineage to an absurd degree.
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cuck dust has pity at 200 and every character needs dupes to work
you are basically forced to roll for alts too because alts add skills to characters and not having them is a brick
every character skill comes with its own dupe level too and the gear system is like 10 layers of RNG shittery so I have no idea how can anyone shill that garbage other than getting paid for it
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>>2193151
But none of these are GODshin
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>>2193344
He addressed what you said in that post, in practice it doesn't matter.
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>>2193345
I need that meme template but with genshin watching in confusion as all the other genshin clones shoot themselves
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>>2193344
oldgluttis have literally every single character in the game maxed at +5; the game gives so many fucking gems and tickets if you just play for a while.
You need 200 rolls to mileage somebody in Nikke too but the game gives you so many rolls that's not an issue, and with 4% SSR rate you don't need to hard pity as often as 0.6% hoyoslop..

If AO has the hoyoslop 50/50 and 0.6% rate up with hoyoslop pull income its dead on arrival no questions asked
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>>2193348
in practice it does matter a lot because "thousands of rolls" doesnt matter when you're rolling a fuckton of characters + their dupes then engaging with the horrifyingly korean gear system but most gacha players stop thinking when they see tits on screen anyway
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>>2193350
>heh just be an oldfag like me that played since day1 and have every chara maxed if I could everyone can
So just a braindead shill, got it.
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>>2193353
every single gacha is like this thoughever, started late? get fucked
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>>2193354
>started late? get fucked
Then it's not generous at all

And that's false, actually good games don't make you roll 3 alts and 5 dupes for each alt to have one complete character
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>>2193357
>Then it's not generous at all
are you implying your gacha is?
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How come cuck dust put out a whole news post admitting they use AI for their art and animations but nobody said anything?
Then some retard says NTE uses AI art and suddenly everyone's flaming the shit out of them
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>>2193344
>3% rates
>pity at 100
>spark at 200
Retard
>gear system is like 10 layers of RNG shittery
Weird, i swear i heard this sentence from a certain youtuber review. I guess finally know where's you got the outdated info.
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>>2193310
>>2193313

Breh it's like Stella Sora's Discs if they are in the main slot (on a character) they activate their main stat and support stat if they are in the support slot they only activate their support stats
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>>2193361
forgot the part where you need several dupes to make any character work because they hid all the important stuff in dupes cuckbro
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>>2193360
NTE is supposed to be a big game made by industry professionals not cheap gooner bait nepos
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>>2193351
>horrifyingly korean gear system
you can deterministically craft gear with the exact main stats you want, upgrading it to absolutely perfect levels is a long term resource sink but even then you get a piece of "perfect" gear from event shops anyways with SSS/rank 24 refinement.
Gear doesn't fucking break when it fails to upgrade so idk why you're acting like it's horrifying the way actual Korean MMO slave grinds are, you just click a button and choose how many times to upgrade. You can also re-roll substats on gear so there's no genshin/HSR endless time wasting artifact grind.

It's not as absolutely frictionless as gearing is in Endfield (which still has RNG item upgrading requiring you to sacrifice other pieces to max out sub-stats for the record) but it's not even close to the actual dog shit systems some gachas have.
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>>2193361
>>3% rates
>>pity at 100
>>spark at 200
That's LITERALLY blue archive's gacha and not even the baggers have anything nice to say about the gacha
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>>2193366
you don't need dupes to fully unlock a BA character though
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>AO discussion derailed by some cuck shilling their NTR gacha
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>>2193368
the uncap tokens aca ligmas are scarce tho
BA characters are LITERALLY unusable if they aren't max rarity'd and UE'd to some extent in most cases and farming ligmas can take months
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>>2193369
more like the AOfag can't discuss their own game without making comparison to a NTR gacha because that's the only other game he plays so he can only only explain things by referencing that.
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>>2193368
Yea thats what makes it bad
People already complain trying to score 1 character out of the gacha now imagine trying to roll for 3~5 dupes for each character because a lot of the characters require dupes to even exist

Characters in that game also have one (1) singular skill and you need to roll their alts for more skills too so the amount of rolls you need to do quickly adds up to a lot and the 'thousands of rolls' suddenly aren't that much
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>>2193353
>day 1 players easily get enough pull income to have LITERALLY every character in the game fully max dupe with room to spare
uh yeah that's actually a pretty good measure of generosity. Do you think fucking genshin/wuwa players have EVERY 5* character at max dupes just because they played day 1? You can't v6 every doll in GFL2 just by playing day 1, etc.
Yes, if you're a newfag just starting a game today you won't instantly get the entire roster fully max duped in a week......but you're at an even greater disadvantage trying to be a new player picking up shit like HSR for the first time in 2026; you won't even have all the SRs. Imagine starting FGO for the first time in 2027.
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>>2193372
>BA characters are LITERALLY unusable if they aren't max rarity'd and UE'd to some extent
Unless you're on Global then you could honestly masturbate all over the keyboard and still get a Platinum trophy
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>>2193373
calm down Irohaschizo not everyone is your boogeyman
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>>2193372
that still doesn't change the fact that you don't need dupes
that and you can theoretically hoard their shared uncap currencies for years and only use them any time you want without limitations.
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>>2193373
>AOfags are cuck dusters
No wonder why they're all insufferable then
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>>2193366
Unlike BA who lose the spark system. BD2 has pity, spark, and can buy the characters in the shop with special currency
>>2193363
>they hid all the important stuff in dupes
This is not chink gachas where's the abilities aren't purely locked behind dupes, retard. The dupes only give damage boost and decrease sp cost. NOW, tell me what's the important thing they hid in dupes?
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>>2193380
>ost and decrease sp cost.
Which is huge and what people whale for????? That's literally the break point people aim for
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>>2193366
Hence why the original post mentioned that pull income is what actually matters. If you got thousand and thousands of rolls thrown at you suddenly a 3% rate is completely different than if you get 100 rolls per 4 week patch f2p
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>>2193360
No one feels threatened by BD2 so no one cares
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>>2193369
They have their own thread here>>2188832
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>>2193378
It's worse than a gacha that let you use the character even if it has no dupes, in BA you literally cannot if you are short on ligmas
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>>2193372
>BA characters are LITERALLY unusable if they aren't max rarity'd and UE'd
Hmm. Kinda suspicious. I don't think you play the game at all.
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>cuckdust enthusiast talking shit about BA
I am noticing
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>>2193388
Of course not, he's just seething because people pointed out how overly reliant cuck dust is on dupes
>BRO JUST PLAY SINCE DAY1 SHOULD HAVE PLAYED SHOULD HAVE BELIEVED!
lmao
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BA bro aka Irohaschizo from /bag/ falls on personal attacks when properly refuted with how the system works.
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>>2193389
I thought it was common knowledge that /bd2g/ fucking HATES loli and constantly spergs out about them. Their community outside 4chan seethes about loli too and blames everything bad on them because in their eyes, the fact their game has a couple loli characters is the reason they got banned off steam and not all the explicitly porn animations in the game
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Brown dust gets a pass with AI because it's a gooner gacha

it's not trying to boast about it's world building, exploration, gameplay
Brown dust gets a pass
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>>2193391
>Irohaschizo
who?
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>>2193393
Yeah, a premium pass that tries to sell you "premium" skins for $60~

You could literally go pay Elon $4 instead and generate better versions of those skins using Grok AND you get to choose what to generate.
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>can't shit on the BD2 gacha
>/bd2g/ HATES LOLI!!!
kek raped behavior
proabably doesn't even know about Refi
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>>2193393
Brown dust gets a pass because no one cares about it. That's all.
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>>2193395
I got you senpai.
"Irohascshizo" is a term used by a /bag/ shitposter that seethes about this red haired character. He'll call anyone he doesn't like "Irohaschizo" and constantly sperg out about loli or this character in specific since he's seething mad that she got a fes alt and is meta now.
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>>2193344
Out of all games you choose bd2, the most generous gacha of today. On average 200 pulls would get you +2~3 before claiming the spark. See >>2192120
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>>2193395
mentally ill lolischizo antagonizing everyone that likes big tits, even /bag/ hates him
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>>2193401
>even /bag/ hates him
interesting
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Astrae Oratio turned out so fucking bad that our usual retarded monkeu dropped it from his shitposts and started pitting cuck dust against BA

It is THAT bad and I think things are pretty FUCKING GRIM.
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>>2193396
This is the opinion of the Koreans when they started selling $60 skins
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>>2193390
If you played since day 1 you would have literally every character in the game at +5
if you play for a few months you will easily have full teams for magic and physical plus a third for fiend hunter. Within like 30 minutes of making an account you can have a maxed magic team since you're given +5 eclipse and dalvi and dozens of selectors to max Helena and Diana, and Elpis is a 4* character. People who are starting the game for the Chained Soldier collab can easily get a physical team for Kyouka as well since Arines is low rarity and Wilhelmina is free chain support.

I simply don't understand this argument anyways since "if you make a new account you don't have 100% collection of every character in the game!!!!" applies even more strongly to less generous games. If you make a new account for Blue Archive you don't get every single student automatically maxed. You don't get every character in Genshin. For most games the standard banner is the same few characters permanently and limiteds are the only opportunity to obtain new 5*s, the fact old characters move to the standard pool once their banner is over is already enormously more helpful in filling out your roster than needing to wait 6+ months for a re-run (if they ever get one period).
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>>2193383
Not really. There's more upgrade systems that doesn't need dupes to allow any characters to viable at 0+.
Everyone and their mothers only go to 5+ because the unnecessary generous the game is.
Oh did i already mentioned, there's free rolls for each banners everyday and frickin item you can also buy in the shop that give universal DUPE?
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>>2193403
>turns out to be just stella sora 2.0
>activates the trauma in his brain
>immediately gets dropped and looks for a better shitpost
l m a o
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>>2193360
There's a lot post about it at their own thread. Most people here just simply don't care about bd2 except that one schizo that keep reposting old pasta with outdated pic.
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>>2193403
Your argument flopped BA bro aka irohaschizo, just take the L
BD2 is more generous than BA and that's that
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>>2193378
>and you can theoretically hoard their shared uncap currencies for years
Uh I thought you were arguing about someone making a NEW account today?
Why is "if you've been playing for years you will have literally every character maxed out" something you call out and say doesn't count for one game, but here you explicitly advocate for YEARS of hoarding resources for another? Apply the same consistency nigga
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>>2193403
>AO is bad because I said so
>mean while Fart dollar doesn't even have a thread here

ok
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>>2193411
I wasn't aware of that, I thought we were just discussing the uncap system.
at any rate you still don't need dupes to uncap a character from BA.
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>>2193411
Rules for thee but not for Blue Archive
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>>2193403
>waste 8mb of data
>only 2.5mb
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I always suspected the retard that spergs out about iroha was a monkey from here since he mysteriously always used talking points and images from this thread and I'm glad to finally have confirmation

Thank you /gdg/
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>>2193417
Are you admitting that you are that irohaschizo then?
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This looks really good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txQAiuMpEUY
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>>2193419
This game would be extremely promising if it wasn't for the commitment to "ambiguous MC because it's literally YOU behind the screen!" which makes me extremely wary that it'll be stuck as they/them cancer. How many actual sales would they lose from a hard commitment to male MC? What women fucking want Neptunia gameplay to begin with?
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he really did make a tacit admission kek
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/bag/ is not sending their best...
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>>2193399
So anyone who posts her is the monkey's boogeyman?
damn
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>>2193419
>Check Fareidolia Reddit
>Dead
>Check 4chan
>Mostly in Blue Archive General doom posting it
>Check Fanart
>Dead
>Check Twitter
>All pro shots of the cosplayers in TGS

What do we think of this game guys?
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>>2193420
EOPs keep losing
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>>2193420
>it'll be stuck as they/them cancer
Didn't stop BA and Trickcal from becoming cultural phenomena, one day you will learn, MLjeet.
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>screencap of a post seething about loli
lmao it really is the same monkey
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>>2193424
The game is so early in development it doesn't even have a release date. The TGS demo is literally fifteen minutes and the only enemies are literally shadowy silhouette MYSTERY NIGGAS faceless silhouettes, some of which are literally just the same character model as the demo girls but shadowy.
There's nobody talking about it because the game basically doesn't exist, it's literally just proof of concept shit at this stage and we'll probably only get a release by 2029 which might as well be a million years away with how far that feels right now.

People aren't talking about it because there just simply isn't enough TO talk about
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>>2193425
>instantly proved this pic right
holy shit he's that nigga hahahahahaha
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>>2193431
KEK
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Yeah I'm thinking iroha won
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>>2193434
Millions are saying this
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Pandemonioum flopped bigly, don't remind her of that or she will melt.
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>>2193413
I'll explain it in more detail since their gacha doesn't work like other games and people just aren't aware how awfully bad it is.

Cuck dust 2 has a character gacha and a weapon gacha. When you roll for a character, you receive a costume for a character and that costume has it's own skill tree and dupe levels you have to invest in and if you roll future costumes for the same character, they get added together instead of being separate characters so having 2 costumes for a character means you have 1 character with 2 skills instead of 2 separate characters.
This means that if you want one fully complete character, you need to roll for ALL their costumes or it's bricked since you'll be missing whole skills and won't be able to execute some strategies.
After this you'll want to get the characters dupes because if they have SP cost -1 then you want that and if they have other important breakpoints or changes then you want this too.
So for a fully complete character, you'd have to roll for both a characters alts to complete their skillset and each costumes dupes to get them to their optimal point.

This means your rolling can balloon out of control since it's quite literally just BA's gacha and suddenly you're dropping 600 rolls to max out one character and then there's reruns, collab characters and new characters to consider which is why the game looks generous on the surface until you dig deeper.

This isn't even considering the shitty RNG gear system where you're timegated on how many gears you can make a week and the insane layers of RNG or monetization this game has. The game LOOKS great on the surface and shills sell it like that but it crumbles when you dig deeper since the entire game is just an excuse to sell overpriced porn skins.

Best part of all this? The actual gameplay of the game is chibishit that looks like this and you only get to see your porn skins on the lobby screen so you could have downloaded them to your PC for the same experience.
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>>2193434
many such cases
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knowing it's the monkey that hates Iroha only means I get to post more Iroha and less Mika since it's different retarded monkeys
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>>2193439
haha noo anything but Iroha..haha...
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sounds very familiar
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>BD2 cuck was shilling assoral to own the BAfags
sad
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Irohaschizo aka requiemschizo
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>/bag/ is not sending their best...
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>>2193443
>BA is a pedo game but not a loli game
every time
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>>2193446
PUBLIC HUMILIATION
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>lose the argument
>try to skinwalk and falseflag
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>>2193417
it really is him lmao
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the most amazing part of all this is that he keeps posting screenshots and collages or bragging about his shitposts in other generals like its a huge own

what the fuck did you people do to this creature to mindbreak him this hard
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>>2193446
This is also the monkey mindbroken by Iroha isn't it?
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>>2193454
genuinely wouldn't be surprised since there's one cuck that keeps bringing up AO over there or trying to shove it into discussions while seething at loli or having a mass spergout if you ever mention or imply blue archive is a loli game
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Easy on the samefag irohaschizo, this is why nobody likes you, not even /bag/
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I hate children and hate lolicons with all my soul, whats a good game for me?

>Brown dust
No
>Nikke
No
>Genshin
No
>Wuthering Waves
No

>Blue Archive
PERFECT
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>>2193446
>USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST
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>>2193437
You forgot the part where the game churn out gacha rolls and resources like a fountain. You need to watch a more recent videos.
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>>2193452
>>2193455
Well at least the monkey now revealed its true identity.
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>You need to watch a more recent videos.
really putting the brown in brown dust there
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>>2193462
OUCH
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guys let's not get off topic here, humiliating wuwa.
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>no argument
>samefagging
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>>2193455
Nah the Blue Archive general is genuinely afraid of AO you can post Fareidolia there and it doesn't get deleted
AO actually derails them if it stays up
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>>2193460
kek got xim
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>>2193458
Reminds of me of yuritrannies trying to subvert as many games as possible, like jews.
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>>2193465
Wuwa put out Suoming and looks like they're actually putting effort into her so I'll give them a pass even if I can't stomach playing that game
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Didn't wuwa JUST have a spending event?
Are they hobbits and now it's time for second breakfast?
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>>2193471
They saw HSR do it so they're just focusing on what the market leader is doing instead of pushing against the flow like the jeets keep espousing
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>>2193469
I swear there's a large amount of retards that intentionally pick up games they hate then demand the entire community and game changes to fit them

Happens with yurifaggots, homolovers and these retards that actively look for anything with loli to sperg out about them.
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>>2193467
Go ahead and post stella sora there, the post would still get deleted, retard.
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>You can post the nexon game in the nexon general and it doesn't get deleted
>But these offtopic posts designed to raid, derail and troll them get deleted!! can you believe it!!!
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>>2193470
>they're actually putting effort into her
>is a generic umbrella loli with a mature personality in a nearly monotone design
bruh
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>immediate seethting
wuwon
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>>2193475
TRVKE
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>>2193475
or maybe you are an obnoxious retard and everyone hates (You) specifically.
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Poowon??????? just like this, saars????????
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wuwon
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>>2193476
I just checked search terms for SS/Stella Sora AO/Astrae Oratio on deleted posts and AO does get deleted with very little of Stella Sora

I even check Fareidolia and there isn't a single post deleted with it

coincidentally enough I saw a post of AO from a different general that got deleted despite not being from the Blue Archive General
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/578578693/#578604729
the post was to a meme question of "Bwos...... To what game are we switching to...? " people listed other games but only AO got deleted

this seems to indicate that there is a mod out there that doesn't like this game
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>>2193497
now start digging onto irohaschizo
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>>2193500
The same retard sperging out over "requiemschizo" is crying about "irohaschizo" and from /nteg/ I know that this retard just calls everyone he hates "requiemschizo" so the logical conclusion is that "irohaschizo" doesn't exist and it's just a made up boogeyman to punch anyone that disagrees with a specific mentally ill cunt
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Is this just /gdg/'s version of ack?
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>
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>>2193501
>doesn't exist
the archive begs to differ irohabro
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>>2193470
it's the opposite, you look at Hsin and you see how much effort they didn't put on Suoming.

What saves her is that she has an actual good character design.
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>>2193503
Sort of, but ack is way more autistic
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>ZZZ loli void hunter
>Joke character
>Used to be the strongest but is now split and is part of a trio and the weakest of the three
>Nearly confirmed to stay as a NPC and part of a 3-in-1 unit
>Uses a shield as a weapon so she'll be a support without field time if she beats the 3-in-1 allegations and becomes playable

>Endfield Hebe Void Hunter equivalent
>Mysterious 13th Sui Sibling when there were only supposed to be 2
>Is part of a family of 12 powerful dragons
>Is an immortal Feranmut
>Inherited the powers of two popular and extremely powerful Arknights Characters

Wasn't ZZZ supposed to be the loli game bros?
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>>2193501
kek got xhim
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>>2193503
when he's sperging out and samefagging on /nteg/ the comparison is much more apparent but yea pretty much
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>>2193501
>>2193516
>one monkey schizoing out in both /bag/ and /nteg/
Legit actually mindraped by lolis holy LMAO
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>>2193517
here too and probably way more generals we are not aware of
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>>2193403
Why are you so scared of a bad game?
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>>2193519
Sad, many such cases
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So what gender is Sensei anyway? Because the writers don't seem to know themselves
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mindbroken by pixels eternally
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Oh xe's mad now
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>>2193512
Hebes are not lolis, what's your point?
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>>2193524
You're a retarded EOP that's what you are.
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If hebes aren't loli then ZZZ has none then given that they don't even have a child model
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>>2193524
what he won't tell you is that only EN ever called Sensei male and by accident that later got patched out
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>>2193512
>Wasn't ZZZ supposed to be the loli game
what? 80% of characters are faggots or big titcows.
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>>2193529
Yes
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>>2193529
That's what we've been saying from the start bro
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>>2193531
a lot of people are constantly calling it hoyo's "loli game" or "gooner game" or "degenerate game" since it has a fair bit of cunny but they get the same treatment as other lolis in other hoyo games so its the same shit
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>>2193530
They never patched out "lord" and "master".
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>>2193524
>Male
>Female
>Prefer to not disclose
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>>2193534
genshin probably has more lolis than zzz
>"gooner game" or "degenerate game"
that's true
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>>2193535
both can be assigned to any gender
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>>2193539
>>2193539
>>2193539
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Any of you noticed how he pretends to be a /bag/ regular that speaks for the general and is an expert on the general but has a folder of screenshotted posts seething and shitting about any of the loli students?
Also quickly unmasks and starts shitting around about revenue, player count and falls back on the same shitposts and images every time
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>>2193538
Lady is the pairing for Lord.
Mistress is the pairing for master.
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>>2193542
Not enforced, historically female "lords" and "masters" exist as titles as well.
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>>2193540
kys
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>>2193545
Mistress is historically and grammatically the feminine equivalent of master. Both words originate from Old French and Latin roots referring to someone who rules, governs, or has authority over others. Same with lady-lord.
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Canon Blue Archive sensei
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>>2193541
those are old ass posts from the archives retard bro from /bag/, you seem to be defending this "irohaschizo" very adamantly too btw, are you his lawyer or something?
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>>2193548
>In old French and Latin
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>>2193552
>>2193545
>historically
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>>2193541
It's so obvious that the anti-loli/anti-iroha schizo is a /vmg/jeet
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>>2193541
>>2193554
well now you know for sure who's raiding /bag/
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>>2193554
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kek
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>>2193548
this is correct, even for Lord, the exceptions were when women assumed power and needed full authority politically. it was only then the title of Lord or King was used to address a Female holder of the title rather than Lady or Queen
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>>2193541
>>2193555
schizos love to pretend they're concerned players or use the "we" when making fun of a game so im not really surprised its some idiot from here
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>>2193554
What's the point of trying to use /vmg/ as an insult when you are literally also posting in /vmg/?
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>>2193563
it was used as a larp, it never was the correct title.
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>>2193567
>it never was the correct title
according to who?
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how is this still 0 upvote?
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>>2193568
according to the actual definition >>2193548
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I went to Akihabara, then Tokyo, then Funabashi, Kashiwa, and Chiba, but Denia was sold out everywhere. There were a few Ames available, but no Denia...
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I don't really care about the worthless bottom of the barrel chink jew monkey subhumans and MENA (IP from Germany) femcels in here I just want to fap with the Miresi girls.
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>>2193569
>inb4 r/hoyogaming
but the real reason is >another spending event
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What's with chinkcels ITT and barking at games with sexy girls? Does having more variety in ecchi gacha really threaten you that much? I know you want to kill the subculture and turn it into normalfag garbage like Genshit almost did but too bad they're never going away.
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>>2193574
BAAAAAAAAAAASED
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>>2193572
proof?
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Wtf there's a fortune telling day?
https://x.com/GooglePlayJP/status/2097520367459864829
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>>2193576
cute girls > sexy girls
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>>2193585
why not both
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>>2193571
not enforced and opposite cases were used so no
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>>2193566
Irohaschizo is that retarded
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>>2193215
>Know how well that turned out for them?
???
No complained about discs, and they frequently give out event discs with enough dupes to max them. What killed SS Was mainly the dogshit gameplay loop and Yurishit being the turd on top.



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