Do you like baby pokemon?I think we need more. Who should get a baby pre evolution?
I think they can make it that the pokemon can get a new ability or new moves only available if raised from the baby stage.
>>59292234They're ok. They don't do much mechanically though.
>>59292234I like them ig but they’re basically useless in game
>>59292234facefucking smoochum every day
>>59292234>Who should get a baby pre evolution?Any single stage pokemon that has a Mega evo like Kangaskhan, Drampa, etc.
>>59292259>>59292269Thats why I suggested this >>59292236 It would be an ingame way to give pokemon new abilities. I know they can just give them like nothing, but this would give an in world reason why they got it.>>59292280A baby Drampa would be cool, so they no longer come out of eggs already old
>>59292269you have clearly never used magby or elekid in the battle factory>>59292270this
>>59292234Dhelmise, Druddigon (while also getting an Evo a la Roselia), Heracross, and Stonjourner should get baby prevos
>>59292354Good picks
Applin, make it the first 4 stage mon>>59292270based
>>59292234As an official cutemon connoisseur, my opinion is the only correct one
>>59292433>disliking any of the babiessoulless
>>59292234Onix and Duraludon deserve one
>>59292433Mime Jr and Chingling are so cute
>>59292234Kecleon, Druddigon, Lickitung, Type: Null, Comfey, Stantler, Girafarig, Duraludon, Ponyta, Pinsir, Scyther, probably some more I can't remember
Yes
>LIXCCXCIICDXXXVBrianna this is your warning about that. Who am I? Das frau sprachen ja?Strider Modeus<
>>59292234Sure i like some of them and i think the quirk they had in xy was cool too bad they didn't keep it.
>>59292234I'd like to see a comp setting with the baby mons exclusively. Only problem would be munchlax being too centralizing probably.
>>59292236This, plus catching them in the early stages of the game, I fondly remember my Budew in DP.
>>59292234Someday, my precious one, someday
>>59292234Okay, John, Game Freak has given you permission to create 6 new Babymon. Which Pokémon line will have a new baby? Choose wisely.
>>59292234>Who should get a baby pre evolution?My top: Tauros/Miltank = CalfPinsir/Heracross = Fat LarvaPassimian/Oranguru = Waterboy GibbonDrampa = Baby Dragon with Mega Drampa colorsSkarmory = Fluffy chick with a steel eggshell, only its legs and a slit for its eyes are visibleTropius = Banana
>>59292236myu're asking for more instances of Volt Tackle
>>59292950probably the first time I actually wished a /vp/oreon was on Game Freak's creative team
>>59292234>Who should get a baby pre evolution?Pokemon pairs that should be connected with a pre evolutionPlusle & MinunVolbeat & IllumiseLunatone & SolrockThroh & SawkFor some they could even add a third evo branch like how they did with Tyrogue and Hitmontop
>>59292950>Tauros/Miltank = Calf>Pinsir/Heracross = Fat Larva>Skarmory = Fluffy chick with a steel eggshell, only its legs and a slit for its eyes are visibleFantastic ideas and now I’m mad they don’t exist in the games.
>>59292234Why do some of them need incense, but some don't?
>>59293631None of them need incense anymore. As to why they ever needed them, game freak wanted to pretend they cared about competent world building so they added incense to explain why some baby mons didn’t exist (why couldn’t I get Azurill in Gen 2 when I breed Marill?)
>>59293650Yes, trying to force an explanation is ridiculous; just reconnect. Like America-Unova, the Indian elephant-Copperajah, or Gardevoir's egg group and fairy type.For example, the idea that a new region was discovered two days ago while your cousin has been living there for decades.
>>59292234I don't mind baby Pokemon but I don't like when they give baby Pokemon to Pokemon that are already small and weak. Smoochum, Magby, and Elekid make sense for example because early on in the game Jynx, Magmar, and Electabuzz would be way too powerful in that point of the game so it gives you a fun way to use those Pokemon earlier on. However ones like Cleffa, Igglybuff, and Azurill don't really make sense because Clefairy, Jigglypuff, and Marill are already weak to begin with. It only makes it even more tedious to raise them. Pichu technically fits into the ones that don't make sense but Pichu gets a pass before it's basically the poster child for all baby Pokemon as well as by far the most marketable baby Pokemon, even making it into Smash Bros.I'd like to see baby Pokemon for things like Lapras, Scyther, or Heracross but not for ones like Sandshrew, Vulpix, or Poochyena.
>>59293631Game Freak has some weird fascination with justifying why they couldn't evolve/breed before by making any cross generational evolutions require something that didn't exist in their original game
>>59292234For me Toxel is the most unintentionally disgusting desing in the franchise. The fact that its Poison-type just makes me think its diaper is full of shit
>>59293852>by making any cross generational evolutions require something that didn't exist in their original gameIt's funny because Lickitung evolves by knowing rollout, but it had been able to learn rollout for a couple gens already.
>>59292236That was a thing. And they dropped it.Charm and Fake tears were baby exclusive moves.
>>59292354Druddigon does not need evo. Its neess a baby AND hp buff.I dont understand why such big mon has under 80hp. It looks like it should have 100.
>>59293090So baby Pund thenThroh, Sawk and Keeck?
>>59293090Volbeat and Illumise already are connected. If you breed one you can get the other. The others they won't do because they're meant to be version exclusive counterparts.
>>59293800yeah i agree. kind of hard to raise an azurill into a marill when azurill gets koed by literally everything. and who the hell wants to go through a 3 stage friendship evolution only to end up with azumarill's stats? elekid on the other hand is fun to use and electivire's base stat total is a very respectable 540 which is about the same as that of a starter. and even before electivire, electabuzz's 490 base stat total is still pretty solid overall. so all in all elekid is what you SHOULD do and azurill is what you SHOULDN'T do
>>59292234i like them but when they started making them catchable in the wild it made them pointless
>>59294541Idk man, I feel like creating baby pokemon mainly exists so you can get strong pokemon early via a pre-evo and not getting them be incense breeding.Like I already have a snorlax, why should I do all that just to get a pokemon that evolves into the one I already have. Meanwhile taking a pokemon they usually only give you post gym 6 and having it catchable early on is the entire point for me to creating a baby mon.
>>59292234>Do you like baby pokemon?Yes>I think we need more.We did get more but they aren't classified as baby pokemon for some reason even though they're obviously baby pokemon>Tinkatink>Hatenna>Ralts>Gothita>Flabebe>Buneary>Vallaby>Rufflet>Flittle>Cetoddle>Teddiursa >Pawniard>Charcadet>Who should get a baby pre evolution?Miltank to fuse the line with Tauros like they did with Gardevior and Gallade, it could be called Licaf and its colors would be beige with brown and pink accents or just give Miltank the baby form that already existI also think Volbeat and Illumise should have a baby form
>>59294541something like elekid is fine in the wild as electabuzz would be way too overpowered early on in the game but something like azurill doesn't need to be catchable in the wild because marill is already weak enough as is, only making things more tedious
>>59294579*>Baby KangaskhanI mean really, it's right there, how could they not make Baby Kangaskhan
>>59292234Any basic Pokémon with 400 BST or higher, less than 2 evolutions in the line, and has a mega might as well get a baby, since megas now block future evolutions
>>59292569It'd just be Gen 2 OU then - the best metagame. Bring it on!
>>59294579Yeah, it's so strange that almost all humanoid 1st stage don't count as babies (same for bear cubs), while you have Pokemon like Tyrogue that would easily be a middle stage (similar body to Kirlia, Gothorita, Hattrem, Pawniard) count as a baby.
>>59294579>give Miltank the baby form that already existSomeone at Game Freak should rescue and adapt this design for the games. I mean, it already happened with Lugia, a Pokémon designed exclusively for the anime, but during post-production, Game Freak liked it so much that they made it part of the video game.For Tauros, just give the calf brown colors.
>>59295093Perhaps instead of a "black hood", the Tauros version has a kind of "sweater" with its fur denser and darker.
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>>59292234I don't care for most of them but I wish that baby Growlithe was real
>>59295354I agree with pretty much all this but I'd move Pichu up to justified baby or acceptable baby because while it is equally as weak as the other three in mistake baby I'd consider Pichu a HUGE exception since Pikachu is the mascot and as such Pichu is by far the most famous baby Pokemon, the poster child for baby Pokemon. Pichu is marketable as fuck. It even got into Smash Bros. The other three in mistake babies do indeed have no reason to exist though. I haven't seen much, if any marketing around Cleffa, Igglybuff, or Azurill. They don't even look that much different from their evolved forms, Cleffa being especially egregious since at least Igglybuff has no ears to seperate it from Jigglypuff and Azurill's tail is huge in contrast to Marill's much smaller tail, meanwhile Cleffa is LITERALLY just a smaller Clefairy. There's really no difference between Cleffa and Clefairy. It's about as different as Poliwhirl to Poliwrath or Pidgeotto to Pidgeot and actually somewhat worse.
>>59292906ScytherKecleonType: NullTauros+MiltankIllumise+VolbeatZangoose+Seviper
>>59295419Pichu is a really good design unlike the others and popular, but I'm also salty about no Gorochu. If baby Pokémon were just utilized differently then I wouldn't have a problem with it, like if they were strictly not for combat and more of a pet companion you take care of, or if they just didn't evolve at all like in the TCG, and just change over time instead of experience, or just the same method as hatching an egg. I actually think having a baby in an evolution line shouldn't prevent you from getting an additional evolution, but now that Raichu got a mega and they stated Pokémon that can mega won't be able to evolve, Gorochu is never gonna happen anyways, so Pichu might as well stick around.
>>59295093>>59295098aijeets really want miltank but small as a "design"...
>>59295466Dude, that design is from the anime and there isn't much fan art of it.
>>59295602>that designIt is not a "design" it's just miltank, but small with 2 features removed, you retard.
>>59295645A modified design is still a design, idiot.
>>59295419>>59295457Cleffa looks different for the evos, you slander Cleffa for looking like a smaller Clefairy but praise Pichu for looking like a smaller Pikachu is very hypocriticalAlso, Cleffa appears often on Cards unlike Pichu and is market more than Pichu, the only time we ever see Pichu get market is when it's with Pikachu, when they introduced Tag Team cards it was Cleffa/Togepi/Igglypuff and Pichu pretty much got nothingThe honest truth no one cares about Pichu
>>59295689You forgot to mention that its shape is now that of a star, differentiating it from the rest of the line.
>>59295662You're an idiot with shit taste>>59295466
>>59295419Clefairy to Clefable actually looks even more similar than Cleffa to Clefairy
>>59295419on its own pichu is a solid pokemon but i've low-key began hating it ever since i heard of gorochu. like that's when you know they don't care about what the fans want. like if they did a poll that went something like: "would you rather have a weaker version of pikachu or a strong evolution for raichu" i highly doubt anyone would prefer the weaker version of pikachu
>>59295457>>59295975Hey at least we now have two Mega Raichus. That's most likely the closest thing we'll ever have to Gorochu. I personally really like Mega Raichu X.
>>59292234Always felt weird we didn't get some baby mons of gen 5 mons in gen 6
>>59292234Mantyke but none for its counterpart Skarmory is weird
>>59297064they realized mantine sucked and wanted it to have something special, realized that it wasn't enough, and gave it a stat boost later on anyway.Mantine should have gotten a mega instead of skarm too imo
>>59295354The funniest think they could do is give Tauros and Miltank a shared convergent evo where they both evolve into the same pokemon while still not giving them a shared baby form
>>59292234As someone who is not competitive at all and who judges Pokemon more from design than battle/stats I absolutely love them. My personal favorite is probably Tyrogue because I got a Shiny one back in Crystal from the Odd Egg and I worked hard to evolve it into a Shiny Hitmontop who is kind of a pain in the ass to get compared to Hitmonlee and Hitmonchan. Even beyond that though I like how Tyrogue is cute without being conventionally cute. It looks more like a cute little alien guy than an animal.
>>59297102Not Miltank/Tauros specifically but I would love a convergent evolution where their moveset is based on what you evolved them from. With all the moveset rememberance these days though, it'd probably just be able to learn everything from both of its pre-evolutions though, completely ruining the point of it being a convergent evolution
