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Previous Thread: >>59294765
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I need one more Regirock to build my meme Regi deck, Regigigas's stupid fucking ability was too funny to not work with. Who should I put in the remaining 2 pokemon slots? Or should I just go all in on support cards?
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haven't played since the arceus set killed my desire to play the game coming back now, is there any new way to max out efficiency now that wonderpicking is dead? has trading made alting efficient? wondering if i should be rerolling new packs on new accounts on my pc in my spare time during work to farm out rare cards.
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>>59302669
Running alts is pretty good now. Every day your account can receive 1 diamond card for free.
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reminder that sleep scam is balanced and loses hard to PCL, Malasada and Ogerpon.
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>friend wants planteta crustle and sceptile on his wishlist
>just have some usual fa trainers on my wishlist
should i try?
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>>59302669
alts are big for pretty much everything
at this point if you're not running at least one you're a fucking retard
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>>59302716
I don't think something having a hard counter makes it "balanced".
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>>59302719
What's the worse that can happen, you get denied? Send it.
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Very fun, constant pressure until you can down a fucktard or 2 & it only costs 1 point if/when M.Boarson goes down like a mini-Lusamine.

It's missing something, I just can't tell what...
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>>59302740
got gigaleth planeta
had to decline since i have it already
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>card game based on series about evolving your mons
>can't evolve your mons if you don't draw their evos
I have come up with a solution for this. Consider the following:

>Pokemon can now evolve without needing their evolution in-hand by exchanging (thus losing) an energy attached to them
>This requires you have the evolution in your deck somewhere
>Pokemon cannot use their Abilities the turn they evolve this way
>You cannot evolve more than one Pokemon per turn this way
>You cannot evolve into Megas this way
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>>59302914
>how about we buff the FUCK out of magnezone decks
uhhhh no ty
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>>59302117
it could have been Celebi or it could have been a great trade offer, though. I want a crown Pikachu which is a shit card but instead of being able to trade my crown Bombirdier like a fucking trading card game should allow, I need to keep opening Genetic Apex until the end of time.
Idk bro my fortune is pissing me off
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>>59302914
This would just make the singles even more expensive
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Ive gotten every basic card in multiple sets and I still only get a 4* wonder pick like once every three months. idk what a 24 hour wonderpick is but im about to uninstall this nigger kike piece of shit game
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>try to get solgaleo card
>get the super rare 0.0002% lunala SAR instead
This game sucks!
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I'm so fucking tired of this shit:
No new card in 2 week. Only one 2star that I already had.
Was almost in UB4 with Megasceptile and then streak of losing, changing deck, losing and I'm back in halfway of UB3
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>>59297905
>>59299197
I failed...
Hit a wall at UB4, so I caved in and just played SuiBax, because the season is almost over...
Sorry...

That being said, I really love this deck.
If you are looking for a deck with a lot of decision making, this is the one for you.
This list is quite tight with the trainers - adding a rocky helmet and Red to get the OHKO on 190s and 210s would be nice, but I'm not sure if it's worth cutting anything, because cutting consistency is bad and Sabrina and Cyrus can win those matchups as well...
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>>59303342
Whoops. Low Quality.
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>>59303342
This is another fun list that was actually able to cross the finish line 2 seasons ago.
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>>59303342
My winrate was almost 80% with this to UB3, but that stat is inflated massively:
I started in GB3 this season, because I was playing meme decks in UB1 rank floor last season.

Winrate was in the 50s in UB3 and basically sub 30 in UB4...

I wonder if you guys can figure out something to make this work better, because I really love this deck.
Baby Heracross might be better and gives me deck space, but Leafeon is so much fun.
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>>59302716
The issue isn't balance, but player experience.
I don't want to add Nurse Joy and Ogerpon to every deck.
Plus, when you run them and they are at the bottom of your deck when you need them, that's an awful feeling.
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>>59303360
This game, and even the paper game, have always had losses that are completely out of your control just by nature of how turns are structured and how you can't act during your opponent's in any way. Sleep scam just removes any facades of there being a game.
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>get trade offer
>some I have 2 off already
>feel generous, accept, offer up a card on the guy's wishlist
>trade declined
Why the fuck did you want to trade in the first place?
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Small nerfs that would make the game infinitely better while not nuking the cards that got nerfed
>Igglybuff flips a coin to inflict sleep
>Darkrai's ability happens at the start of the turn, thus making it happen after the sleep flip
>Greninja needs 1 water energy attached to use it's ability
>ice pop flips all at once like Misty and Celebi
>M. Altaria does 20 per benched mon instead of 30
>Hydreigon can be any of: does 50 damage to itself, cannot attack the turn it activates it's ability or it's attack also damages it for 30 on top of the ability
Simple fixes that instantly make the game much healthier without making the cards completely unplayable and without banning anything.
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>>59303509
Sometimes you just fucking win.
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>>59303342
Okay. This might actually be better.
This is just ladder not tourney, so people will play around Sabrina and Cyrus whether you run actually run them or not.
Rocky helmet + Red give Mega Heracross the reach to OHKO the 210s and provide redundancy to consistenly delete 190s.
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>>59303633
*actually run
*consistently
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>>59303633
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>>59303642
Bad timing on this screenshot...
Blaziken has 190 HP.
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>>59303642
I think that this resets me to UB4 next season, right?
I'll probably just leave this here for now.
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>>59303650
Note that 2 of the wins come from me playing SuiBax in UB4.

Here's the alternative list to play a true OHKO combo deck.
Tournaments have open decklists, so this will be much worse in tourney.
If your opponent knows that you don't have Sabrina and Cyrus, they will abuse that fact.
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>>59303475
The meta is actually pretty diverse and balanced right now.
I don't think that anything should be touched other than Ice Pop and Iggblybuff - not for balance, but player experience.
Altaria and Lucario have other early game alternatives with higher winrates than Igglybuff, so nerfing Darkrai to oblivion won't make those two Megas worthless.
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>>59303671
Bruh, I cannot spell...
*Igglybuff
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>Make it to Ultra Ball 4
>Decide to play one more match
>Facing a Magcargo deck
>Bro only plays one Slugma and one Magcargo the entire match
>I lose
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>>59303475
>>59303671
Ice pop should be consistent with the other infinite flip cards.
Tails first flip gives you nothing.

Darkrai sleep damage to 10.

I think that's sufficient.
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>>59303653
bro no heracross for oricorio?
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>>59303676
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>>59303684
Serperior is right there.
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>>59303653
what if you start with M!Heracross though
but this deck really works tbf
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Which card is better LT Surge or Peculiar Plaza.
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Is this current ranked ladder somehow worse than last time around?
Not sure how much more I can take.
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>>59304146
>Is this current ranked ladder somehow worse than last time around?
Mega Lucario is another sleep scam compatible deck. It really has just been getting worse.
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The Zygarde-Mega Lucario dude was the better player, he just got scammed so fucking hard with his bad luck and the Darkrai-Giratina's good luck.
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>>59304312
Unfortunately thats why darkrai tina holds up. Its a consistent deck that thrives, although im shocked the one that won runs no mars. Isn’t that its best card? Your first ex Pokemon gets knocked out then you shred your opponents hand down to one.
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>>59304754
too much draw these days for mars to be good, since darktina plays the long game and gives the other person a lot of time to draw cards. if they draw their entire deck and you mars them then they're probably just going to draw their wincon supporter next turn anyway.
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Seems like they increased the chance of the free event WP back up.
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I got my second Korrina from a random WP. Do decks even run 2 of her?
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>>59304861
nope, she's a one-off and i can't imagine a situation where you'd want two of her. she's great trade fodder though.
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>>59304863
I don't like trading supporters when I have a playset, but oh well.
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>>59304754
The only match that I saw it in was the finals but he was fucked seven ways to Sunday if his final opponent didn't get insanely unlucky in Game 2. For context: his opponent had four cards left in deck, three of which that won him the game and then Pokeball. His opponent drew Pokeball. Then in their final game, the Darktina player flipped heads on every Ice Pop while his opponent lose his Ice Pop after the first use. His opponent didn't see a single draw supporter. Darktina is a fine deck but this deck didn't win finals because it was good. It won because Ice Pop went improbably hard for him and his opponent's luck was absolute dogshit. I certainly would not play Darktina without Mars.
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>>59304953
Thats my gripe with pocket in general, horribly inflexible. Lowkey copycat ruined the game, it enables high roll potential in every deck imaginable. The counter play against it? Mindlessly dump your hand to have less cards so the opponent cant draw more. Lots of card games are similar but pocket only has 3 prize points, and megas just pushed it further where 1 ko can equal a loss. Alot of matches you win just because your opponent drawed a card 1 turn too late or you yourself bricked. At least theres deck variety idk
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>>59305104
There's technically variety because people use different Pokemon, but the skeleton of every deck is the same. If you're not running 2 oaks, 2 pokeballs, at least 1 copycat and cyrus, you have a bad deck. There are exceptions to this, but they're very rare.
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>decide to try getting a bit of MB rank to start closer to MB next season
>run hitmontop/lucario since it's what got me to MB
>80% of fights are against some variant of Igglybuff/Darkrai
>they ALWAYS either start with the baby in hand or with a hand that allows them to instantly draw the baby and at least 1 darkrai and switch into it
So this is it huh, you play baby shit or you just aren't allowed to compete. Obviously next set being a pile of shit will do nothing to resolve this, so 1 more month of being forced to slot Ogrepon into every deck, fantastic.
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>>59305138
Field blower is terrible card design, i have no idea who green lit it. Total upgrade to guzma, and its a tool card for fucks sake. You think that cape will give you counter play against a one shot? Nope your opponent can do a field blower + cyrus/korrina combo. The game is fun to play but its not competitive whatsoever
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>>59305208
It's not that blower is too good, it's that the game has powercrept so hard that Guzma is too weak. If anything for the current state of things a Guzma support would have to remove everything to be viable and worth the deck space.
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>>59305208
thing is, guzma was just plain garbage already, literally nobody used him any more. powercreeping an unplayably bad card isn't a problem.
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>made it to masterball
>but I had to use sleep.dek since my pet deck wasn't good enough
It hurts. The deck is just too good it's unfair. It's not fun to play against, and the fun decks are too inconsistent to avoid de-ranking since they can't secure win streaks.
Maybe I should just stick with my pet deck next season, and try not to force the ladder climb in a single day?
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Can someone explain to me how darktina won pocketmads? I do not care about the results, this deck is horrifically bad. It relies so much on your opponent drawing badly, or getting lucky with ice pops. How did the stars allign? I play the deck for shits and giggles every now and then so i know how to play it.
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>>59303676
uh yeah, thats the deck
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>>59305355
he just lucked into not fighting any lucario decks until finals and then in finals he lucked into the lucario guy bricking super hard
anyway tourney bo3 structures favor consistent decks and to this day darktina is still the most consistent deck in the game which is how he made it past all those other non lucario decks
even if your opponent highrolls their god combo in one game you can still beat them in the other two and move on, you're not also dealing with your own layers of RNG
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this is the first time in the game's history that i've filled my entire deck list with non-meme, non-pet decks and still don't have space for everything. can we just get this bumped to 50?
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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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>>59305612
yea...
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what do you predict will push sleepfaggotry out of the meta in the next set? there will be something, right?
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>>59305664
nothing short of an extremely oppressive meta deck on the level of SR darktina that has built-in status immunity a la arceus ex rather than having to rely on ogerpon or comfey can kill sleep scam
it's simply too generically good
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>>59305355
>Can someone explain to me how darktina won pocketmads
It got lucky as shit. I watched it. I commented on it here >>59304953, but he was fucked game 2 if his opponent drew any of the remaining cards in his deck besides Pokeball
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Post your worst Wonder Picks
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>>59305664
a non EX version of Ogerpon or maybe a baby that inflicts guaranteed sleep and confusion to power creep Igglybuff.
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Didn't even bother completing the latest set for 24h WP
2* WPs kept showing up for me every 2-3 days over the past month
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>>59305664
They'll just retroactively nerf the deck.
Slap a one energy cost on Igglybuff to both attack and retreat.
Increase the retreat cost of Darkrai to three.
Problem solved. Deck is no longer a brainless package in deck building, no longer has a win condition of flipping heads for a turn 1 play, and can actually brick.
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>>59306015
>nerf a card
lole
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>>59306032
Erratas are normal things in tcg's.
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>daily pulls in the hopes of full art ultra beasts or Lusamine
>get a golden jellyfish
Cool. Are dark poison decks still a thing, or did they die out with the introduction of sceptile?
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>>59306039
this is pokemon pocket we're taking about. do you really think an errata is actually on the table?
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>>59306065
you can still run it as a not so pointless flex piece with sceptile/venusaur
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Was going to post it as a picture but i cant be arsed to make the file smaller.
B9J-GMQL-N9W-B2W
DCP-YNY2-BH6-WPR
Didnt pull anything worthwhile so if you get sth good with these please post ITT.
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>>59306039
Anon they haven't ever errata'd a single card in this game after over 1 year of it coming out and having multiple problem cards in the past. Their answer is to always just keep powercreeping shit forever and completely ignore gameplay (which they don't even test btw).
The ONLY way this shit ever gets an errata is if 90% of users boycott the game and actively uninstall it while openly demanding erratas to problem cards, and even then they're likely to just ignore it and shut down the game. The other solution is to Kyoani Dena's hq, which would be hilarious but really unlikely to happen.
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>>59306100
Both say invalid characters entered and if I try to remove the "-"s it says incorrect code
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>>59306100
>>59306119
I think they're codes for the other game, this is the Pocket thread.
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>>59304857
Can someone else confirm seeing more free event WP since 2 resets ago (saturday night)?
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>>59305104
>Lowkey copycat ruined the game, it enables high roll potential in every deck imaginable. The counter play against it? Mindlessly dump your hand to have less cards so the opponent cant draw more.

I’ve been saying this since the card was introduced. I don’t think people realize how much this shifted things. People started building their decks just for this. And now it’s just the norm for the fastest decks to draw through most of their deck in two turns from copycat. It promotes the uninteractive decks even more.
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>>59305801
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>>59306296
Want to trade a Treecko for a Grovyle?
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>>59306253
It was a necessary evil with how quickly Suicune decks were able to get everything into hand.
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>>59306380
Sorry. I actually already traded that extra Treecko away
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>>59302669
There's a new wonderpick mechanic where you will always be offered a pick with a card you don't have every 24 hours or so. Your aim should be to complete the base set and trade for 1* cards as quickly as possible so you can spend a month picking for as many rainbows and fullarts as you can
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>>59305801
I swear my luck on the 1/5 wonderpicks is pretty decent but if it's a 2/5 chance of something I want I will NEVER hit. Drives me crazy
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>>59303475
Pooling energy might be interesting to make multi-energy decks more consistent.
Right now, a dual-energy deck has a 25% (100% x 50% x 50%) chance to get the same energy 3 turns in a row and a 12.5% (100% x 50% x 50% x 50%) chance to get the same energy 4 times in a row.
A pool of 6 divides nicely for dual (3-3) and triple (2-2-2) energy decks.
This would give a dual-energy deck a 10% (100% x 40% x 25%) chance to get the same energy 3 turns in a row and a 0% chance (100% x 40% x 25% x 0%) to get the same energy 4 turns in a row.
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>>59303684
>>59303686
Exactly. However, I did say earlier that the Baby Heracross variant might just be better.
You could drop the Lisias, run double stadium and have the space to add more good stuff.

Leafeon is just more fun to me - planning out where I want to place my energy.
The Sabrina variant can also just bypass mono Ori - I've been experimenting with Sabrina and Red together, because this deck would much rather OHKO than 2HKO with Cyrus (due to the recoil and low HP bench).

Will + Leaf Cape or even double Leaf Cape could also be interesting, but then you want Cyrus and need to drop consistency...
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>>59303720
That's a low probability brick.
To be honest, going second is salavageable with Serperior, but the 1 in 27 games I go first with the Mega only, I just concede.
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>>59306794
Why does it even need to be random? Just cycle it depending on the order it was selected in the menu. Or better yet, spawn it in depending on what's currently in play. Just make sure it doesn't spawn the same one twice in a row.
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>>59306826
>all this for a simple 1 out of 5 in a 5 out of 20
>it's 1 in 13.5 so about 1 in 12.5
Absolute garbage tier AI response.
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>>59303720
Yeah, I was surprised at how well this deck works, given that the main card is a promo needing 4 energy that loses you the game immediately if it dies.
Plus, it's so funny dropping a nuke out of nowhere.
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>>59306832
>>59306826
And it's wrong.
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>>59306829
It needs to be random, because Dragons have slightly better stats than usual, due to their energy requirements.
Making it deterministic completely negates that downside.
Right now, the downside is too great, so a pool should help.
Making a card to fix the problem could work, but it just makes yet another auto-include when lists are so tight already.
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>>59306847
Of course it's wrong, that's implied by "garbage tier AI response".
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>>59306832
>>it's 1 in 13.5 so about 1 in 12.5
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odds_ratio
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>>59306847
Is it? I just looked at the final probability and it was close to what I expected and the math looked right at a glance.
What's the correct answer and how did you calculate it, please?
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>>59306853
>Dragons have slightly better stats than usual
I don't completely agree with that. Most of them have mediocre attacks even without the stupid energy requirements.
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>>59306847
This is interesting.
I haven't done probability problems like this by hand in a while.
Let me try and get back to you with a non-AI answer.
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>>59306872
You can just ignore the "either K or J" for that.
So assuming you just don't want to start with MHera as the only basic:
You have a total amount of opening hands of 20 choose 5 = 15504.
You need to start with MHera (1 choose 1 = 1), 4 non-basic cards (4 choose 14 = 1001), and 0 of the other 5 basics (0 choose 5 = 1). You can ignore the 1s since we're multiplying.

Now just divide 1001/15505 = 0.065, or 1 in 15.5.
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>>59306879
Well, most mons have mediocre attacks...
Obviously, if their attacks were worth the cost, we would see them in the meta.
That's just the rationale.
Plus, the lack of weakness means that a dragon-centric meta is not self-balancing.
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>>59306894
Wait, why can you ignore the either K or J?
This is a conditional probability problem, because you are forced to start with a basic.
So, you need to elimate some of the opening hands, because they aren't legal.
So you can't just take 20C5.
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>>59306894
Here.
Red = non-basic, green = MHera, blue = other basics.
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>>59306907
Because I am forcing myself to start with MHera and no other basic. That already satisfies the "start with basic" requirement.
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>>59306908
See >>59306907
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>>59306909
In the numerator, not the denominator though.
The denominator also needs to be basic only.
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What's best Mega Manecric brew beside obvious 2dogs+2zeraoras+1birb? electric generator? elemental switch? cord? rocky helmet(s)?
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>>59306912
Just remove 2002 from the total of possible opening hands, then.
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>>59306915
So 1000 in 13500?
You mean 1 in 13.5?
Like the AI said?
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>>59306922
Whatever the first one did with "either K or J" was not right. Hold on.
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>>59303912
Plaza 100%.
Surge see zero (0) play.
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>>59306924
It was the fucking Ogerpon. I had only considered 4 desirable basics.
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>>59305343
Yeah, I just bit the bullet and played a meta deck that I wouldn't hate to play against, with some interesting choices to make and lines to learn.
I've had fun games against the Celebi Sceptile deck and some top player gave a write-up for it (he uses Goomy when he sees too much Sleep Slop).
Maybe try that one out?

https://www.reddit.com/r/PTCGP/comments/1tjmm1t/mega_sceptile_ex_b3_season_top_75/
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>41 Wins (1 Win Streak) 55 Losses - 42.7% Win Rate
I'm tired of this cancerous ranked. Gonna end on ub4 this time
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>>59307029
I never really cared to grind to reach master ball at any point for ranked. Consistently maintaining UB2 has been enough for me, the extra 15 or so hourglasses was never worth it to me.
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Why are all the ads for this game a bunch of streamer facecam wiggers

I'm not redownloading the game, the wiggers make me want to download it less

How do I stop the wigger ads aside from redownloading
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>>59307211
On the phone? Dunno. On the PC I just use uBlock Origin Lite.
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>>59307211
>see ad for pocket
>it's some disgusting 400lb manchild freaking out over pulling some card
what do they think they're doing with these ads? literally nobody wants to see that
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>>59307211
Pocket isnt a competitive game but its still fun to play, sucks that all the marketing is pack opening slop
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i really hope people have not forgotten on how badly lucky ice pop raped this game.
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>>59307444
The game gets raped by every new set. Lucky ice pop is just one of many
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>>59307472
Its insane ill form a game plan and forget that my opponent can heal to full with flips its so retarded
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>>59307472
Ice Pop is unique in how it ruined the game. You could still kill a Hydreigon or Suicune. Ice Pop just invalidates all of your progress.
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I'm looking for planeta mega Lucario and Sceptile. I got Rainbow mega Manetric, Calem and planetas of Magnezone, mega Charizard X, mega Scizor and mega Gengar.
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what can i get for rr m audino?
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>>59307678
A nice RR Machamp, a Clodsire perhaps
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>>59307683
guess ill just wait for the op audino deck that will happen anytime now haha
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>check WP
>Rainbow Sceptile
>FAIL
I miss sneak peaks...
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hello sirs i love hebes :)
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I wonder if we will ever get a deck increase or at least a gamemode that allows you to play with 30 cards instead of 20 with 4 lives
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>>59307472
Is this why Lunala and Solgaleo EX are extremely powercrept? I got the chase card for Lunala but couldnt play it against mega charizard cause it only hits for 100 and charizard hits for fucking 250!
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>>59307981
solgaleo's still usable enough
lunalard was just barely usable on debut but not really in the current environment, its ability is just a worse version of MI vaporeon too
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>>59307978
Some days ago TCGLive got the very asked limited mode with 4 prizes and 40 cards based on prerelease events.
Maybe Pocket can get something simillar if enough people cry enough.
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>opening hand is sabrina cyrus stage 2 rare candy copycat
>copycat opponent's 4 card hand because i really need the basic
>new hand is sabrina cyrus stage 2 rare candy
th-thanks
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it really is amazing how common it is to go entire games without actually seing any of the cards needed for you to actually play your deck. i played seven games today, and in not a single one did i ever manage to assemble blaziken.
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Remember to do your random battles before they expire.



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