Oops, wrong dex number. Meant to post the mon 3 lower.
My bad guys!
-OP

Eren Yeager

>>59319839
Shit Digimon-tier overdesign

>>59319839
Isn't it only good for setting up screens?

>>59319872
No, it's a hard hitter too. it can ohko with STABs. that's why you set him up with light screen, refleft and Play Rouh and whatever the dark physical is(I forgewt)
>>59319867
the fuck? he's not overdesigned at all.

>>59319839
Grimmsnarl should be Planet-sized.

>>59319839
>IT LOOKS LE EDGY SO THAT MEABS ITS GOOD!!
Garbage design that completely ruins the point of its typing and prevos.

>>59319941
how is it edgy? explain.

>>59319941
Prevos were shit so it changing up drastically was a good thing.

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>>59319941
his evo makes sense. from a bunch of fake ''emo'' kids growing into metalcore and then death/black metal. it's actually a real phenomenom.

almost every single myspace metalcore band grew into actual musicians and took the criticism to heart and turn into people that lift weights and make death metal instead of deathcore.

Only thing I dislike about it is the green color scheme. Should have kept the pink from its pre-evos.

>>59319839
It looks terrible and ugly. The whole line looks like some shitty reject from a Toriyama manga.

>>59319839
looks like garbage

>>59320127
>>59320155
samefsg

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>>59320161

I like that it looks monstrous.
Using hair as muscles is an objectively creative idea.

9/10.

>>59320168
You have shit taste.

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>>59320164
look, you have two options here, either you're a samefag or god forbid there's 2 people out there with dogshit opinions like yours.

anyone can manipulate mspaint

>>59320177
Nah, I just don't think a pokemon needs to look "traditionally cool" like a dragon of something to find it neat.

>>59320177
kys

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>>59319941

>>59320017
>how is the black aggressive thing with an angry expression edgy? explain

>>59320065
>his evo makes sense if you consider a theme that has nothing to do with the line
thanks for proving my point

>>59320260
Dunno, stage 2 and 3 fit together well.
I guess you could imagine stage 1 going different directions, but isn't this line used to Team Yell and Marnie? Their aesthetic also informs what kind of pokemon this is.

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>>59320278
>the thing that uses underhanded indirect attacks and the thing that unga bungas with muscles fit together well

>>59320295
Did you know that the Tyrannosaurus Rex had like 3 different niches and survival tactics throughout its life? So much so that archeologists thought that its infant form was a different dinosaur species.
Growing up and finding a different niche because you have a new tool/skill is very common in nature.

>>59320317
>the design shitting itself destroying its own point is common in nature actually!!

>>59320324
No, the point is that the first two stages are weak henchmen that have to use sly tactics, while the final stage is a boss that doesn't need to play around. You only have to fool others when you aren't confident in your strenght, otherwise you just get shit done and that's that.

>>59320295
Violet added this entry:
>It lives deep within the forest. Even after evolving into this splendid form, it hasn't given up on its petty misdeeds and pranks.

>>59319839
Whole line is ugly and garbo

>>59320178
Or maybe you're a really insecure retard and deep down you know you have extreme shit taste for liking this thing, which is why you resort to petty "arguments" like accusing different people of being the same person just because you've been called out multiple times on your dogshit opinions.
Tldr you're a pathetic moron.

>>59320317
Stupid reasoning.

>>59319839
>>casually mogs the entirety of gen 1s designs
Not difficult.

>>59320334
>No, the point is that the first two stages are interesting and fit their theme while the final stage goes a completely shittier direction out of nowhere
glad we agree

>>59320342
>the dex entry needs to run damage control because the design goes against the point of its preevos so hard
grim

>>59320369
The theme is that the hair slowly grows and becomes a weapon for him to use.
There's nothing ruined, you just have OCD autism. The hair growing and becoming useful isn't that different from Bagon eventually growing wings like it wants to.

>>59320414
The theme is that it's a skinny wimpy creature that has to trick others and attack indirectly to make up for it until the final stage takes a complete shit on it and turns it randomly into generic muscular garbage that attacks directly.

If the hair grew to trick others into thinking it has a scary appearance but it was still physically weak THEN it would fit the theme. But nah, the design is generic shit that completely plays it straight that it's just a strong goblin now.

>>59320414
That autist has been told that the inspiration for the line was always imp->demon->archdemon and he elects to ignore it. You're not gonna win him over he's REALLY attached to the trickster fairy thing.

>>59320421
Dunno why you're so angry and laser-focused on the small trickster thing, we have plenty of small trickster critters, having a creature that subverts its behavior after evolving is an interesting concept since animals do that all the time in nature.

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Even its signature move is forced and makes no fucking sense
>The user attacks the target with so much force that it could break the target's spirit. This also lowers the target's Sp. Atk stat.
Every other Fairy move has some kind nature, magic, or playful theme and then this garbage comes along and is just "uhhhh it hits the target really hard lol"

>>59320431
>wtf why do you expect the fairy pokemon to be like a fairy pokemon
>it should subvert being a fairy pokemon and cater to retards like me who don't actually like fairy types

>>59320432
Sounds like you made up your own headcanon about fairy types after debating 3k hours online during gen 6, and now you're angry that GF never really cared about what you talked about.

>>59320434
Sounds like GF just made a shitty design that you only like because it's bland edgy garbage and now you're shitting your pants scrambling to defend it.

>>59319839
Hi, OP here
forgot to mention I'm trans :)

>>59320435
>waah wahh if you don't subscribe to my brain autism you have shit taste, you shit eateater!
No. I don't have your OCD over fairy-type so it doesn't affect me.

>>59320436
You'll never get everyone to play make-believe with you.

>>59320438
What's your favorite gen 7 pokemon?

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Shittsnarl if she competently designed

>>59320453
He's implied to be skinny under the hair already.
Honestly muscle hair was an interesting approach, if he just used his hair to grab things, how that would be more unique than a regular Grass-type using vine-whip?

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>>59320470
>He's implied to be skinny under the hair already
and it makes literally no difference because it behaves exactly like every other muscular pokemon

>>59319839
I wish we could see his whole body without the hair like with Hatterene

>>59320478
Because the hair makes him strong as a substitute for muscle.
Now if he would get stronger lifting weight... dunno, maybe he's larping or that's just intended to be a funny gag from the animation staff making this.

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>arms resembling linked sausages, neither signalling particularly strong nor feeble arms, just looks like shit
>clashing color palette looking like visual vomit
>whole concept is bending over in mock-surrender to stab people with its tail hair, as if anyone would buy this thing's surrender in the first place. A concept so contrived and situational that it is hard to buy into at all, the epitome of bad concept worse execution
>hair style resembling a bullied 2010's scene kid, complete with one bang-covered eye
I'm convinced this thing is only liked by contrarian edgy losers who see themselves in this thing. The fact that they are unable to comprehend that the concept is significantly edgier than "hair as a substitute for muscles" is saying a lot. Even then, if this is your thing, go with Kingambit, at least it pulls off the mock-prostration slightly better.

>>59320487
>Because the hair makes him strong as a substitute for muscle.
and it makes literally no difference because it behaves exactly like every other muscular pokemon, correct.

>>59320514
Shittsnarl is guilty of everything you're screeching about except worse.

>>59320514
>play a mischievous trick
>get caught
>hope they buy your exaggerated forgiveness kneeling and come close
>THEN stab them
It's so fucking stupid. At least with Kingambit I can buy it as a last desperate resort it would only pull if someone made it past its army of Pawniard and Bisharp.

>>59320168
>an objectively creative idea
There's another pokemon (Hatterene) in the same gen with the exact same concept which does it better, you braindead tasteless retard.
>>59320514
Also this.

>>59319839
all?? what about scyther, he's your favorite pokémon

>>59320514
>clashing color palette looking like visual vomit
It's like an imp/goblin/little devil, the strong color is fine.
>as if anyone would buy this thing's surrender in the first place.
Why they wouldn't? The thing is under 1 meter so it seems approachable by humans and other pokemon, it gets into situations like this because he's playing prank on others.

Plays pranks > other pokemon/humans want revenge > in situations when cornered he still has a last trick up his sleeve.

The only reason someone could argue it doesn't work is because he looks like a demon or something, but that seems like a meta way to look at things, does the pokemon world have demons? Why they would feel iffy about this design in particular? Also even if we go with the angle that someone DOES NOT trust him enough to fall into the trap, it doesn't mean that it doesn't do its job as well to keep himself out of harm. The spiky hair is still a weapon.

>hair style resembling a bullied 2010's scene kid, complete with one bang-covered eye
That criticism is a matter of taste, I'm not arguing over taste, just that the design makes sense.

>>59320530
>hope they buy your exaggerated forgiveness kneeling and come close
>THEN stab them
Well it is supposed to be lame, but that gives it personality, doesn't it?
Also if it's attempting to trick other Pokemon, it isn't like every mon has the same level of intelligence and detective skills. Some will see through him but that doesn't break the concept.

>>59320521
>Shittsnarl is guilty of everything you're screeching about except worse.
No?
>arms resembling linked sausages, neither signalling particularly strong nor feeble arms, just looks like shit
The hairy arms look muscular while the true arms are thin sticks, the design plays into what the concept is going for here, unlike the sausage chains making up Morgrem's arms, which do not convey feebleness well.
>clashing color palette looking like visual vomit
It's the same just less busy, since the purple is removed leaving you with just green and grey, to say that the Grimmsnarl is guilty of having a more clashing color palette than Morgrem is just flat out factually untrue.
>whole concept is bending over in mock-surrender to stab people with its tail hair, as if anyone would buy this thing's surrender in the first place. A concept so contrived and situational that it is hard to buy into at all, the epitome of bad concept worse execution
The point here is that this is pretty edgy and contrived, using your hair as mock muscles is significantly less edgy than Morgrem's main mode of attacking which involved feigned surrender
>hair style resembling a bullied 2010's scene kid, complete with one bang-covered eye
Not sure how you can say Grimmsnarl is guilty of looking more like an angsty, edgy scene kid than Grimmsnarl, this is another case of this just being flat-out untrue.

>>59320554
>The thing is under 1 meter so it seems approachable by humans and other pokemon
I think he was referring to Grimmsnarl, and he's right. It's retarded to think something like that's supposed to be a giant hair monster would try to pretend to act meek and cowardly.
>I'm not arguing over taste
I do. You have shit taste for liking any of these mons from this evolution line.

>>59320554
>It's like an imp/goblin/little devil, the strong color is fine.
That can also be said for Impidimp, which has a significantly cleaner palette. Although I am not entirely sure where you get the notion that vibrant magenta and green is a typical devil color palette.
>The only reason someone could argue it doesn't work is because he looks like a demon or something, but that seems like a meta way to look at things,
I disagree. The visual storytelling in pokémon is usually straightforward. If the design doesn't appear trustworthy then it doesn't seem like one would trust it. When its entire survival strategy depends on people feeling sorry for it then the overall design should capitalize on that.
> it doesn't mean that it doesn't do its job as well to keep himself out of harm. The spiky hair is still a weapon.
I also disagree with this point, the spike requires Morgrem to bend over to use it effectively for a sucker punch. It appears rather unwieldy as a straightforward weapon given where it is placed. It very much feels like a weapon only useful in one extremely specific situation.

>>59320594
That was a morgrem dex though

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>>59320563
>No?
Yes?
>The hairy arms look muscular
No, they still look like sausage links.
>It's the same just less busy
No it isn't. It has a random out of place pink spot on its chest and the red on its head now clashes completely with the green.
>The point here is that this is pretty edgy and contrived,
A Dark/Fairy pokemon using tricks to attack isn't contrived. It's the whole point of both types. The hair randomly turning into a retarded muscle suit out of nowhere is what's contrived.
>Not sure how you can say Grimmsnarl is guilty of looking more like an angsty, edgy scene kid than Grimmsnarl,
Shittsnarl's hair literally looks like this lmao

>>59320595
>the spike requires Morgrem to bend over to use it effectively for a sucker punch.
Isn't the point of the line that they control their hair? I think that's more explicitly shown with Grimmsnarl but can be assumed for Morgrem as well.
The point of the dogeza is just looking innofensive, it's not like it's using momentum to attack, the hair just stretches on its own.

>>59320608
>red clashes with green
no, they're complementary and the dark grey hair acts as a buffer to ease the sharp contrast so it won't blow out your retinas. idc about the rest of what you said, you ARE wrong but only the color theory of it all pissed me off enough to say something.

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>>59320608
What kind of sausages do you eat if they look like this? That's pretty much human arm anatomy 1-to-1.
>No it isn't. It has a random out of place pink spot on its chest and the red on its head now clashes completely with the green.
Accents instead of two clashing colors both fighting for focus, and the red instead of magenta is significantly less disruptive. Please look up color theory if you want to discuss this point further.
>A Dark/Fairy pokemon using tricks to attack isn't contrived.
The setup for the trick to work is what is contrived, yet you do not grasp the difference.
>Shittsnarl's hair literally looks like this lmao
That guy doesn't even have bangs.
>The hair randomly turning into a retarded muscle suit out of nowhere is what's contrived.
Never implied it was a logical follow-through. Morgrem is shit no matter what and Grimmsnarl scrapping everything that didn't work and took a spin on the concept that actually works was for the better. but yes the line as a whole sucks with Grimmsnarl as the only salvation.

>>59320615
Yes, it controls the hair, but to bend the ponytail over its head to stab people it has to bend over.
Animals with prehensile tails don't bend their tails around themselves to slap things in front of them.
Or are you implying the spiked ponytail isn't a fixed shape? In which case the Pokemon utterly fails to convey that since everything about both the concept and design portrays the spiked ponytail as an integral piece of the pokémon's identity.

>>59320317
You've got that backwards, scientists were trying to twist nanotyrannus into a juvenile t. rex, arguing it was basically completely changing its body plan to such an extreme degree outside of the range of any other known non-metamorphosing animal, for over 2 decades, specifically as spite for a handful of people who wanted to keep ownership of the fossils of the animal (while still allowing museums to examine them at any point). Several people were ostracized from the paleontology community for claiming nanotyrannynus was a distinct species before we got the most recent near-full-body-inarguably-adult-smoking-gun specimen btw. A complete shitshow.

>>59320645
Grimmsnarl stretches its hair, why the line wouldn't do that as well?
Stretching hair as an attack is something popular in anime/manga culture with many enemies using attacks like that. I could see Morgrem being the traditional approach with a simple "uses hair to attack" while Grimmsnarl is a more innovative approach with muscle hair.

>>59320414
bagon is an excellent example. I personally don't like salamence but anyone arguing it doesn't fit because "the whole point is that it can't fly!!" is retarded. I'm pretty sure there's just one autist that posts about hating grimmsnarl anyway.

>>59320634
that guy might be a total schizo but you're also wrong about morgrem, it's a zero to hero, rags to riches type deal and the evolution is a logical followthrough on its hair control and trickery. grem's shrimpy and weak and needs tricks to get by, grimm's shrimpy and weak too but its trick is to use the hair control not just to LOOK strong but to BE strong. i don't think it's a coincidince that in practice it's actually a support mon despite looking like that, it's just another layer of the deceit. also, i think it's relevant and kinda funny that imp starts off totally bald and ends up completely covered in hair. the line successfully iterates on several concepts with logical throughlines, you aren't giving it enough credit for that.

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>>59320619
>no, they're complementary
Which means they clash harder, retard.

>and the dark grey hair acts as a buffer to ease the sharp contrast
The dark grey hair just makes the design look more like a clusterfuck.

>you ARE wrong but only the color theory of it all
Maybe pick up a dictionary instead of pretending you're smart because you heard "complementary colors" in a youtube video once.


>>59320634
>What kind of sausages do you eat if they look like this?
What kind of workouts do you do if they look like this?

>Accents instead of two clashing colors both fighting for focus
By this logic the green on Morgrem is just an "accent", retard.

>and the red instead of magenta is significantly less disruptive
No, because now it's just a fucking random magenta spot that exists nowhere else on the design. Please look up color theory if you want to discuss this point further.

>The setup for the trick to work is what is contrived,
No, it isn't. What's contrived is hair randomly turning into a muscle suit.

>That guy doesn't even have bangs.
I'm sorry about your terminal blindness.

>and took a spin on the concept that actually works
You being an NPC who likes generic shit isn't the same as the concept working.

>>59320663
>bagon is an excellent example
No, because the whole point of the Bagon line is that it's trying to learn how to fly.

Impidimp was never "hurr it secretly wanted to be super strong all along!"

>>59320663
it is, i'm pretty sure it's the same guy that thinks ice is good and samurott is bad too. might even be the same guy that hates "beards" and "jobs", basically every endless artificial argument on the board reads like it came from one singular sicko's head.

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>>59320619
>Charizard would clash less if it had a blue belly instead of a yellow one because blue is a complementary color with orange!
>I said "color theory" so that mean me smart!

>>59320668
i have a degree in art, i don't just think you're wrong i know you are and the hot air you're blowing is peanuts to a beast like me. stop pretending you know about shit you don't understand.

Man this thread sure got heated.
People are debating like the design was revealed yesterday kek

>>59320680
i'm just gonna let you try and ruminate on how stupid this line of reasoning is without comment desu

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>this is a better design according to the "muh color theory" schizo

>>59320701
just keep digging your hole

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Why didn't they make Pikachu's cheeks purple? Doesn't Game Freak know yellow and purple are complementary colors? Are they stupid?

>>59320724
this actually looks really good lol

>>59320668
>What kind of workouts do you do if they look like this?
My guy look at the actual arms, something as simple as the upper arm being thicker than the lower is more than Morgrem where the upper and lower are just two identical sausages.
>By this logic the green on Morgrem is just an "accent", retard.
Morgrem is pretty much split down the middle in magenta and green, even if the magenta is slightly more in focus how can you argue that it is a fucking accent?
>No, because now it's just a fucking random magenta spot that exists nowhere else on the design
1. It's not magenta, Grimmsnarl's red parts are significantly warmer than Morgrem's magenta, get your eyes checked.
2. It is not just on the chest but also on the ears, nose, and eyes and mouth.
3. The color being used sparingly is literally the definition of an accent color, but judging by you putting accent in quotation marks you probably know jack shit and is just talking out of your ass. Congratulations on learning a new concept, I suppose.
>No, it isn't. What's contrived is hair randomly turning into a muscle suit.
I don't know why you keep repeating this when we both agree that the transition is drastic. We both agree the line viewed as a whole is shit.
>You being an NPC who likes generic shit isn't the same as the concept working.
Monsters using hair as muscles is novel, the fact that the actual execution is blends seamlessly into the design and isn't in your face makes the design competent, not generic.

I always find it interesting how this line's fans are so split, you have:
People that love Impidimp and Morgrem, but hate Grimmsnarl
People that hate Impidimp and Morgrem, but love Grimmsnarl
People who like the whole line

There are other Pokémon with somewhat similar design directions such as Squirtle, but you never see those different factions clash so much against each other and so passionately.

>>59320798
wartortle haters were pretty annoying 10 years ago to be fair

>>59320634
Christ, it's face looks so ugly and retarded. Those teeth and nose look so bad and misshapen. I can't buy that this is an actual living creature at all.
How do people like this thing, it looks so fucking terrible.

>>59320178
>anyone can manipulate mspaint
It's a phone screenshot you retard
You really believe someone screencapped these posts from their phone, sent them to their computer to then make an edit in ms paint to remove the (you)s, all in like 2 minutes?
You're so pathetic and retarded, kek

>>59321084
that particular screencap seems low-quality. It reminds me of those "it's just my style" furry memes with how the nose is pushed up out of the way of the eye.

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>>59321084
The teeth are like one of those oni masks. You can buy one at any japanese summer festival.

>>59321214
Not all pokemon are on-model in the anime.
Using random screenshots to judge a design isn't a smart thing.

>>59321235
Yeah, I was pointing out that it looked like that because of the anime.

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>>59320791
>My guy look at the actual arms,
The ones that look like sausage links?

>how can you argue that it is a fucking accent?
The same way you can argue Shittsnarl's clusterfuck of colors is "a fucking accent"

>>59320791
>1. It's not magenta,
Yes it is.

>2. It is not just on the chest but also on the ears, nose, and eyes and mouth.
The colors on its chest and the colors on its face are different you colorblind retard.

>3. The color being used sparingly is literally the definition of an accent color,
Except it's not used sparingly.

>I don't know why you keep repeating this when we both agree that the transition is drastic
Glad we agree Shittsnarl is a bad design.

>Monsters using hair as muscles is novel
Yeah, you tend to invent "novel" things when you make bullshit that makes no sense. And in execution it ends up not being novel at all anyway because it behaves exactly like every other muscular Pokemon.

>the fact that the actual execution is blends seamlessly into the design and isn't in your face
It "not being in your face" means the design is just terrible at communicating at what it's supposed to be.

>>59321226
The fangs sure, but the other teeth are weirder with how they are stylized as half-circles on top of the lips instead of protruding out of the gums. I personally like Grimmsnarl but I can understand why someone would find it ugly.
Same with the nose being so upturned and the nostril going all the way down to the teeth, almost giving the impression of a clefted lip, I think it looks cool but I can totally get why someone would not like it.

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>>59321265
>because it behaves exactly like every other muscular Pokemon.
Can muscular Pokemon attack with their hair? He can both focus on muscles or have a bit of long range at will.

>>59321265
NTA but I don't understand how you can insist that the magenta and red are not used sparingly on Grimmsnarl. It seems like a ridiculous hill to die on.The magenta and red cover like what, 5% of the whole design?

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>>59321266
There's definitively a genre of "monster-like pokemon" that's not for everybody.
For example I liked Barbaracle in Gen 6 way more than the average person playing XY did.

>>59321270
Be kind to the retard anon.He doesn't understand that Pokémon are no longer designed for static showing so since the unwrapped arm isn't evident in the Sugi art the concept is poorly communicated and it must behave like every other muclemon.

>>59320421
>But nah, the design is generic shit
what other designs are like Grimmsnarl?

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Grimmsnarl has become my favourite pokemon because he apparently triggers the absolute fuck out of the ''erm acshully there's no sound in space so star wars makes no sense'' tier autismos.

>>59321314
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Fighting_(type)#Pok%C3%A9mon

>>59321323
Which of these can unfurl their muscles?

>>59321332
Shittsnarl unfurling its hair isn't relevant to anything it does

>>59320443
OP why haven't you answered this yet?

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>>59321347
>>59320443
actual OP here, Golisopod and Mimikyu are the only good mons from Gen 7.

>>59321342
>excluding the key design feature of the pokemon, that key feature isn't relevant to the pokemon
Sure.

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>>59321360
KEK
I fucking knew you were a tastelet NPC, it's always the same with grimmsnarltards

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>>59321342
bruh

>>59321342
Tell me, have you ever seen this thing actually attack? Be honest.

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>>59321370
I hate everything in this image other than the mons I mentioned thoughbeit, besides Rillaboom - I like him and I like his drum.

you're an annoying retard

>>59321370
That's like seeing someone playing gen 1 and going
>LOL you're using Gyarados, Nidoking and Arcanine? generic taste!
people who like coolmons are going to gravitate towards certain designs, just like women are going to gravitate towards Eeveelutions or whatever.

This thread convinced me to use grimmsnarl next chance I have.

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>>59321421
but he's a half fairy type and fairy types shouldn't be big strong physical attackers it ruins that guys immersion just like bright lights and certain sounds

>>59321342
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>>59321265
>Hidden Ability: Autismo Agitator
>sending this pokemon out will send sperg types into uncontrollable hour long tangents about inane bullshit

>>59321470
Fuck you for randomly quoting me once in the same breath as the autist.

>>59321370
I always find this picture a little off-putting since it implies disliking the ashnime as a whole isn't far and away the most common opinion.

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>>59321470
This ugly bastard causing yawnie to violently bleed from his anus on sight for 7 (SEVEN) years will never not be the funniest shit

>>59321370
this is the funniest image ever, you really rolled up to the thread and said
>ERM YOU LIKE BASED THINGS?? YOU'RE CRINGE ACTUALLY!!
what a self report lmfao

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>>59321632
>th-th-these shitty things are actually based!!

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>>59321650
I think they're based. Most people think they're based. Why would I take some contrarian autist on /vp/ rambling about how shit they are to heart?

>>59319839
Comparing it to genwun is setting the bar on the floor. Comparing it to gens 2-7, it's a horrendous eyesore.

>>59321678
>Most people are NPCs!!
Correct. Glad we agree.

>>59321723
Anon, we're both discussing the most successful children's franchise on 4chan. We're not above fucking anyone and this is not high art only for the most sophisticated of minds. Let's not kid ourselves.

>>59321746
>we
Don’t try to drag me down just because you’re assmad over being an NPC with no taste.

>>59321776
You play Pokémon, you have inherently bland taste, whether you like it or not.

>>59321776
>I'm not like the other guys
you're worse actually, and when you get some self awareness in a few years you're going to fucking hate yourself. have fun with that.

>>59320199
>b-b-but it's just a little guy

>y-y-you're like me! a-actually wait no you're worse than me!! just wait you'll see!!
kek now he's really mad

>>59320369
>>No, the point is that the first two stages are interesting and fit their theme while the final stage goes a completely shittier direction out of nowhere
but enough about Coalossal

>>59321841
Does the reality of Pokémon being a normie franchise clash so much with your self-perceived hipster image that your brain short-circuits?

>>59320798
>People who like the whole line
me, reading the retardation this thread.

they're all kino you niggers. relax.

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>>59321879
>they're all kino you niggers
nah just impidimp and then the line gets exponentially worse

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>>59321385
Wow. Actual active dislike for Tyrantrum. This board has reached a new low.

>>59321895
Fuck this noodle-limbed shit. Mf looks straight out of Steamboat Willie.

>>59320295
the "muscles" are still a deception though, it's all just its hair
but i agree the prevos are better

>>59321902
>Mf looks straight out of Steamboat Willie.
that's the best part retard

>>59319839
Too bad 95% of its gen is irredeemable shit.

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>>59321974
>baldie seething at a bald pokemon that regrows his hair
love to see it

>>59322145
>baldie grasping onto shittsnarl because he can project his hope that he can one day nonsensically grow hair
love to see it

>>59320295
>>59322197
>shittsnarl
you've been seething for nearly 12 hours

This thread is a gift that keeps on giving.

>>59321366
Except it's not a key design feature, because it doesn't actually do anything with unfurling its hair. It attacks with brute force like every other muscular Pokemon.

>>59321371
>signature move of its prevo that's actually well designed and has nothing to do with the evolved design
wow it's fucking nothing

>>59321377
Have you?

>>59322517
>it doesn't actually do anything with unfurling its hair.
It means that it can attack in other ways which is already not JUST muscle-based.
Damn do you have aphantasia that you can't imagine all the different ways that hair could be used?
Jojo's Bizarre Adventure? Saint Seiya? Bayonetta?

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>>59321226
Grimmsnarl's face looks more like a nutcracker than that mask, lmao.
Garbage design.

>>59322517
>Have you
Yes, here are three examples of it using its hair when fighting. >>59321270 >>59320432 >>59321371
You thinking its main mode of attacking being to punch things because you read "enhances its muscles with its hair" is on you.

>>59322550
>It means that it can attack in other ways which is already not JUST muscle-based.
Which it never does.

>>59323407
>Yes, here are three examples of it using its hair when fighting
And all three examples are it either simply using brute force or piggy backing off its pre-evos better design.

>You thinking its main mode of attacking being to punch things because you read "enhances its muscles with its hair" is on you.
No, I just don't invent fanfics to pretend the shit design is good.

>>59323413
What does brute force even mean at this point, Morgrem also stabs with its hair spike.

>>59323429
Silly anon, you don't get it.
Stabbing with hair when kneeling = clever, original, and not edgy
Stabbing with hair when not kneeling = brute force, edgy, and generic

>>59319839
is that supposed to be an achievement how?

>>59319886
>the fuck? he's not overdesigned at all
Why do these people with so much shit taste always talk like absolute retards, kek.

>>59323517
I can't tell whether you're referring to him or yourself because you already outed yourself as a glue sniffer by calling this basic shit overdesigned

>>59319839
Trash just like the one who like it lol

>>59323448
>dark/fairy type behaving in a way that makes sense = clever, original, and not edgy
>dark/fairy type behaving like every other generic edgy monster = brute force, edgy, and generic
Correct.

>>59323731
Genuinely, do you know what edgy means? In one sentence, you say it behaves like a Fighting type and in the next you complain that it is too edgy.

>>59323413
>Which it never does.
I think your angle is silly because you could extrapolate that to some many things, like Ghost types lore in general, Staryu having the center as a "weak point" but not affecting gameplay, Shellder having to bite Slowbro to evolve, Gardevoir not being able to create blackholes, Porygon-Z always obeying your commands despite supposed to being a "glitchy" mon, etc
Just because I can't fill Grimsnarl's moveset with 4 obvious "hair" moves, it doesn't mean that it's not part of its internal logic if you had to imagine the pokemon world as a real place, and it's used as animation as seen here >>59321270

>>59323946
>I think your angle is silly because you could extrapolate that to some many things,
No, you actually can't.

>j-just because its hair is never used for anything except brute force doesn't mean I can't just fanfic things to pretend the design is good!
kek

>>59320168
Bayonetta did that shit like ten years ago, literally just ripping off some shit wokie game

>>59323957
"brute force" is just a term you're using to have your cake and eat it too.
Your original point is about the line starting strictly as tricksters. Then you added that Grimmsnarl is just like a musclemon like Machamp or something.

My point is that using hair automatically gives a dimension to the design that can't be assigned with a simple description like musclehead. It's doing something unique and its biology is inherently different from a Machoke or Machamp, by definition it cannot be just "brute force", that would imply that it can only punch and nothing more.

You're clinging to that definition because it's your win condition to keep repeating yourself that Grimmnarl is bad for abandoning your fairy-type headcanon of being tricksters, but that shit doesn't even make sense in the context you're using. You're trying to pass the use of force as being the same as a Machoke or Fighting-type and nothing more, but there's actually a whole spectrum of how they execute that, a Swampert isn't going to fight the same way as a Salamance, a Metagross isn't going to fight the same way as a Farigiraf, those creatures are all fighting without any "trickster" angle to them. Does that mean they're all the same? Fuck no, and you trying to move the goalpost with fallacies is dumb as fuck too.

>>59324111
>My point is that using hair automatically gives a dimension to the design
It doesn't use its hair for anything except brute force.

>>59324067
And Gen 1 did most of its things based on early JRPG tropes and Earthbound. Your point?

>>59324121
You have aphantasia. That's the same as saying that all pokemon that attack physically are the same.
The method of attacking makes it different.

>>59324127
>That's the same as saying that all pokemon that attack physically are the same
No it isn't. I have no clue how you jumped to that conclusion.

>The method of attacking makes it different.
It doesn't have a different method of attacking. It attacks with brute strength exactly the same way as any other muscular Pokemon.

>>59324133
You're trying to force a circle into a square hole but it's just braindead and retarded.
Machoke cannot attack with a long-range stretchy hair, nor it could live in the wild and make use of that feature to live like Grimmsnarl would.
If a feature affects its way to live and its fighting style, then it's not just "identical to Y" anymore, by definition it cannot be.
You're being retarded to support your first point around Fairy-types.

>>59324152
>Machoke cannot attack with a long-range stretchy hair,
Grimmsnarl never attacks long range with stretchy hair. It attacks with brute strength exactly like Machoke.

This autist retard has been seething for 2 days at this point.

Honestly it be better if they kept to the shit gremlin desgin, grimsnarl as desgin conflicts with what the mon is based off of, it's a imp, imps are small generally pranksters that fuck with people, often using trickery, they do not get big the hair muscle thing is just bad and just seems like someones fetish.

>>59324154
It uses stretchy hair in its animations which is an abstraction of how it would fight if every move was fully customized/animated for every pokemon in an unique way.

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>>59323663
I always wanted to know the opinions of ESL pajeets when it comes to Chadsnarl.

>>59324183
You're assuming my color cause I cause I care about the authenticity of a desgin, where its based from. Sure buddy. Why even have a thread then, 4chan isn't a hug box faggot.

>>59324166
>seems like someones fetish
You're really grasping at straws now.

>>59324202
>I care about the authenticity of a desgin
no, you're a nitpicking autist that literally has to ignore reality in order to make your '''points'''

>>59324133
>It attacks with brute strength exactly the same way as any other muscular Pokemon.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=w9CzwHjIdLo&pp=ygUWZ3JpbW1zbmFybCBhbGwgYXR0YWNrcw%3D%3D
dumbass