Would proto-Gardevoir have been as popular as the final one?>Scrapped after May 2002, yet it might possibly have been reworked into the Ralts line, just based on their general shape, themes and palette, and considering Wally's connection to Red Spider Lilies in Pokémon RSE.>Concept: >It excels at sensing the emotions of others, using its antennae to feel the opponent's aura? It can manipulate others at will. It is often seen standing still, gazing at the sunset sky. Only females exist.>Dex:>(Ruby) It has long antennae that are highly sensitive, capable of sensing subtle air currents to understand the thoughts of its enemies. >(Sapphire) It mesmerizes opponents with its dance-like movements and deep gaze, putting them into a hypnotic state. Only females of this species have been confirmed.>リリディ Ryllidy>「アマリリス」 + 「レディ」>Amaryllis + Lady
>>59320727It's got that whoremon appeal but it looks like a grass type. Gardevoir being Alakazam at home is a big reason why it's popular. Being usable is what separates the shillmons from the flopmons
>>59320742the prototype WAS a grass type. All the braindead retards who thought gardevoir was a grass-type because it was green were unironically on to something.
>>59320727>this thing was going to be female onlyI wonder if it got scrapped and Gardevoir ended up having a 50/50 gender ratio so that Wally could have a male one as his ace.>Error: Our system thinks your post is spam
>>59320755>Error: Our system thinks your post is spamHappening to me as well, dunno what's triggering I tried formatting my post multiple times.
>>59320775For me it was the minus sign
>>59320727it probably would have been about as popular as roselia, i guess? gardevoir doesn't just have the story exposure factor, it's also a simple and elegant pretty elf lady instead of shortstack flower pixie #3, it's really unique in the series especially for its time. also what the other anon said, the fact it's good in game raises its stocks massively.
>>59320783>it probably would have been about as popular as roselia, i guess?It actually does kind of look like Roselia a bit. Seems more like Ryllidy got split into Roselia and the Ralts line. Fittingly, Wally has a Roselia too.
>>59320727It would have surpassed gardevoir immensely. More striking vivid brighter color, larger head, larger more expressive eyes, eyeshadow/makeup,It would have immediately stood out as not just the first real purposely made waifumon but slutmon too.
>>59320797Roselia and Ryllidy existed at the same time, but then again there's also situations like 2 "Castforms" existing at the same time, with the one we know more closely resembling an unrelated mon while the "actual" pokemon in the line got replaced later.In any case, I wonder if the 2002 sprite is unfinished or it was an attempt at simplifying the colors.
>>59320813forgot pic
>>59320742>Being usable is what separates the shillmons from the flopmonsEeveelutions tho
>>59320754That was his point: "No it wouldn't be as possible because it is a grass type".
>>59320755Why did they want a fucking gardevoir to be his male ace lol
>>59320821Half of them have been good at some point or another, and some like Sylveon are still going strong. The ones that have always been weak, like Flareon and Leafeon, have never been among the most popular.
>>59320812tell me you're a sonic fan without telling me you're a sonic fan, lol
>>59320832I’m a sonic fan without telling me you're a sonic fan, lol
>>59320827Protector knight that can sense when his health deteriorates. His rest of his team is pretty feminine too with an Alteria, Delcatty, and Roselia, two of them also male. They must've thought that Gardevoir was androgynous enough to be read as either male or female after it took the role of Wally's ace from the spider lily mon, and made Gallade later when they realized they made it too feminine. And spider lillies commonly symbolize death, which might've given the wrong impression that Wally was dying from his illness, so a Psychic type that will always be by its trainer's side is a much nicer Pokemon to be associated with Wally. just my theory though
>>59320816>>59320727huh. I always thought that single pixel was its nostril and not its mouth
>>59320874Why don’t they give him a female ace so he can have a waifu
>>59320742Amazing that I've never thought of it but it was weird that these Pokemon learned grass moves.You could explain it by being magical move and cutting moves and that's the reason but there's actually a deeper reasoning.
>>59320929Not many trainers have an ace that's the opposite gender, especially in older games where all pokemon matched the trainer's gender most of the time. Look at both of the gen 9 E4s, only two of them have an opposite gender ace.
>>59320945They did reuse some beta designs though, they've even talked about designs getting reworked over several gens that ended up being used way later
Wasn't there a dog-like thing that was the psychic-type on his team in-between?
>>59321195we've seen beta pokemon for gen 3, 4, 5, 6 and it doesnt seem to be the casemaybe scraggy in gen 3 or shellos, leafeon was in gen 2 too
>>59320727It’s not an amaryllis, it’s a lycoris
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>>59320727they scrapped her they dont wanted another jynx situation
>>59320832>sanicThis is just toon design 101.If THAT grandmothered all other anthropomorphic waifumon to come, it would have been significantly more captivating upon debut than Gardevoir and would have received far more porn within our lifetime.Gardevoir is the result of several stages of toning down.
>>59321516Maybe would have liked it more if Sharpedo had a normal body like this.
>>59322007>Segmented tail and dorsal fin is a different material>normal
>>59321988Its lack of a human like body wouldve hurt its popularity in that regard. Its body is just a triangle. Gardevoir also has a more defined faux hairstyle and dress, and it has legs too. Ryllidy does have the colors and bedroom eyes, but Garde looking much closer to an adult woman in a dress is the main reason why it has so much porn.
To this day I find it insane how fucking bad most of the beta Hoenn designs were. Obviously there's that Sugi quote about making Pokemon that didn't "look" like Pokemon, but you can really see they took it too far to start with. Some were good like this one, but on the whole it's kind of a wtf dex. Plus the colors were just fucking awful, whoever started with all the pastels and shit hopefully got fired. Not sure how many of the sprites were considered finished but a lot of them look really rough, and it wouldn't surprise me if they were going to stick with them before overhauling lots of designs... just look at the Nat Dex sprites in RSE, so many of them have the same weirdness as the betamons (I beleieve they said they drew the first 251 to begin with as practice for GBA)Whoever sat down and tardwrangled the designs from their bootleg/Neopet ass feel literally saved the franchise.
>>59322043They had a massive jump in the the amount of space and colors they could use. It was important to figure out what would work on the hardware, even if most of them were bad the first time around. Iteration.
>>59322043The actual hoenn designs weren’t much better. Pokemon design really fell off until Gen 5 and really Gen 7+
>>59322415>>59322043like a solid 40% of Hoenn's pokemons are various trash filler mons
>>59322452That's a good ratio for a gen that introduced so many.
>>59322452>like a solid 40% of pokemons are various trash filler monsWoah...
>>59320727Would probably have been as popular as RoseradeGardevoirs secret to popularity is just that its an incredibly well thought out and flexible design, its equally cool, mysterious, cute and sexy
