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>>59314138

FAQ:
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I am afraid of how expensive the 30th anniversary set will be...
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I hope a lot of cool cards get posted in this thread.
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Don't mind me, just posting the only good Level X card.
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>>59322055
Based 'min enjoyer, but I do think it has at least some competition.
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>>59322055
Wrong card, my dude
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>still buying modern
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>>59322028
How do we buy physical product? Going through every hobby store even several states over and finding nothing is the most depressing i’ve found a hobby ever.
Pokemon wishes it could be the get rich quick scheme that the likes of black lotus were.
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>>59322191
>How do we buy physical product?
you need to go out of your mom's basement
I know it's scary out there but you have to do it, bro
I believe in you!
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>>59322055
>doing the quirk chungus millennial face
lolno
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>still buying physical
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todays show pickups. Keeping up with modern is so fucking exhausting, maybe its time to go back to JP vintage
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>>59322203
Kill yourself retard. You can’t even come up with original insults.
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>>59322245
I guess I struck a nerve, huh
anyway, just buy shit
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Need to improve my display of all my big-love cards, I've been using the ones from the Paldean Fates promo boxes back when this stuff wasn't impossible to find, but I ran out of them, as well as mantle-space, and dunno what to do now that Mega Darkrai joined the family. What do you Anons use? I'm looking into wall-hang case displays, but I'm not liking what I find so far, aside from some flat modulars I can put vinyl strips over for coloring or patterns.
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Am I retarded for liking the look of non-foil vintage better than foil? Every card I've seen that has both a foil and non-foil variant I think the non-foil looks better. I can see way more details in the art. I don't know if these are just bad photos online, but I swear every single time the foil looks worse.
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>>59322277
post an example
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>>59322281
This is the first one that comes to mind: https://imgur.com/a/51wJBAE
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>>59322284
that's like a complete different card at this point
but I wish the example was with physical cards, not scanned/digital ones
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>>59322271
Mid cards desu
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>>59322291
You can kinda see the art in the background of the foil, but it's tough. Maybe they look better in person but I'm seeing this pretty consistently in scans and photos.
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>>59322317
I found this high quality photo of the card and looks okay to me?
probably looks better in person with the foil effect
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>>59322271
They massacred marnie

>>59322239
Cool articuno
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I have a complete base set of 151 but I'm tempted to finished a master set
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>>59322353
retard newfag here
what's the difference between a base set and a master set?
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>>59322055
>>59322078
>>59322183
this mogs all of those
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I have a bunch of cards in the flexible oversized cases because I was thinking about sending to PSA, but then life got in the way and I never did. I can't see myself ever actually doing it, especially not with the recent price increases. They've been in them for a few months. Should I transfer to the hard top loader cases? Does it matter?
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>>59322355
Collecting a base set is for based, collecting the master set is for masturbators
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>>59322381
I see
so is it like getting all the cards except the ARs and SARs?
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>still grading cards
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>>59322384
It's the base set, usually just all 151 Pokemon. But then there's art rares and trainers and etc etc. Master set 151 is almost 400 cards. But I only want the actual Pokemon, I don't care about trainers or items
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>>59322357
I mean, I pretty much like all the lvl X cards besides the ones that make the Sinnoh starters look ugly
That one is in the top 3 in my opinion.
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>>59322205
Shaymin is chillmaxing.
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What determines what makes a card expensive? Obviously popular 'mons like Gengar, Charizard, Umbreon etc. are going to be expensive, but why are gold stars so pricey? Is it literally just scarcity? Most of them are super ugly I think
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>>59322445
>/tcc/ posters don't understand supply & demand: the post #9,295
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>>59322445
Nobody was collecting back then so now investorfags realized they are the one thing they can manipulate. I'm glad the gold stars don't do shit for me so I will never desire to own one.
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>>59322445
>why are gold stars so pricey
1. Low print run means fewer gold stars than many other chase cards. After the WOTC era, Pokemon died down in popularity compared to the original craze, so less gold stars in circulation(except for the 5000 stolen ones from the factory)
2. Because of low print run, extremely low chances of existing goldstars getting a PSA 10, and basically impossible to get a beckett black label
3. Because of scarcity of gold star cards, leading to scarcity of gem gold star cards, the market for them is extremely fucking stable and won't do any weird market bullshit like modern cards do with going up and down in price as it would be very unlikely for new gem gold stars to come into circulation
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>>59322490
That's half the reason, there are many sets from the mid era that followed the same pattern in terms of scarcity and low hype at the time, that now are organically expensive but not THAT expensive.
The other half of the truth is people exploiting socials and reddit to send the message that a certain set of cards (in this case the gold stars) has always been the pinnacle of collecting, which is false, but nowadays 90% of collectors started last year with 151 so they simply don't know shit about the last 20 years of TCG, so they blindly trust the grifters and rush to spend $3k for cards that were $50 a few years ago, doubling down in the reddit post with "finally got my personal chase that I didn't even know existed until 3 months ago".
Another example is the Coro Mew. It was cheap as shit 2 years ago, now it's treated as the best and most iconic Japanese promo ever printed, and people will pretend they have chased it for decades.
With vintage and mid era they can only target certain sets, while with modern they can pump whatever they want and the cattle will follow. See for example the ugly lovebirds being the face of the SM era, or Umbreon becoming the best Pokemon in the world from SWSH onwards.
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>>59322445
Mid era is 10x better than any modrubbish making the rounds today
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>>59322764
>(in this case the gold stars) has always been the pinnacle of collecting
Dude, subsets will always have inherent value beyond regular holo chases
IMO the vast majority of gold stars are ugly as fuck, but given scarcity in all applicable aspects, them being as expensive as they are just makes sense due to the market initially being dictated by those who actually cared about the cards
>Another example is the Coro Mew
You are correct, but it deserved it, limited print run japanese promo? It just follows
>With vintage and mid era they can only target certain sets
Which is a good thing, Base Set 1 - Neo Destiny are kind of trash, Legendary Collection isn't good either but at least the holo pattern is fun
Expedition(sucks), Aquapolis, and Skyridge make sense not only for lower print run but due to the fact that Aquapolis and Skyridge have a shit ton of holo foils, way more than any other WotC set

Ex era was easily the best era for Pokemon cards, the stamps, the artwork, the subsets, the reverse holos having the hidden pokeballs, all the holo bleed and holo errors
That era deserves to be as expensive as it is not only due to print run and age, but due to quality of the sets
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>>59322846
EX > E-Card > S&M > S&V > HGSS > Platinum > S&S > B&W = D&P > XY > Original = Neo
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What’s with the neo seethe? Is it a sour grapes thing?
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>>59322861
I love Kizuki so much
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>>59322863
The only cool cards throughout all of Neo are the Ho-Oh and the Shining's
Much of the artwork is really uninspired save for maybe 20 throughout 4 entire expansions
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>>59322866
That poli must be inspired by top left
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Sunday mailday
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Love these tag team GX.
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Both is MP/HP, hence the very discounted price.
Spent $35 ish for both with shipping and tax.
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>>59322906
>>59322907
Full arts were a mistake.
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>>59322922
Full arts are a result of collectors mattering more than players
When Yugioh started consistently performing worse in the west, suddenly Konami releases full arts?
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>>59322814
>Mid era is 10x better than any modrubbish or vintagarbage making the rounds today
ftfy
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>>59322937
Yugioh fullarts look much better. They still have the normal frame beneath, the text is relegated to the bottom quarter of the card and is in a nice, neat opaque box
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>>59322937
>>59322982
how big of a magnifying glass do I need to read the effect text on a YGO full art?
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>>59322904
What did you get in the booster?
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>>59322357
For me it's this
I always liked how it looked
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>>59323260
Nothing.
These freebies packs aren't worth anything because its 99% it comes from a harvested box.
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>>59323264
Pre-Dragon Type Dragons are always so based.
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I'm going to go to a card show next weekend and take a couple of things to trade, how do I make sure I don't get ripped off? Just make sure I know what condition everything's in and make sure I checked Ebay/TCGPlayer/Cardmarket prices? (I'm in the UK).
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>>59323401
Card Shows aren't for selling/trading DESU. The main purpose of a card show as a non-vendor is to get good singles pricing without needing to deal with shipping.
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>>59323403
I meant more for like trading in cards for credit with a vendor, not with other attendees. Is that not a done thing? Went to one yesterday and some were doing that.
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>>59323412
It's a thing that people do, but I'd probably not recommend it because of how trade in value usually works.
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>>59323416
Damn, fair enough. Maybe I'll just try and sell some singles myself then.
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>>59323358
I was asking for a photo of the cards not if you got gengarzard lv. 34534 slabbed with my dick
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>>59323516
The best way to get cards you like is to trade away cards you don't like. If you're collecting to make some kind of profit IMO you might as well just become a dealer.
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>>59323521
>>59323717
How do you take pics of your cards? I find I get best results with a 2x zoom taken from a distance.
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>>59322764
I would say Corocoro Mew was simply underrated because W*stoids didn't know it existed. $50-75 for an old back promo was pretty expensive, right up until COVID hype started.
That said, yeah the gold stars hype is pretty artificial, never mind graded slop people will go insane for the raws and the fact is that back in the day they were rare enough that people never knew they existed and those who did didn't really rate the art much. You can see the sort of "shooting star" aesthetic Fukuda was aiming for and I think it worked but lots of the mons just look ok. Fug and the Hoenn starters are probably the best looking of these. Never mind that Pokemon wasn't popular when they were printing, the Neo era Shining Pokemon were always much more well known/desired. I would say that's true even today, vintage will always be king.
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>>59322846
Holy fuck zoomers are braindead lmfao
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>>59322982
>>59322984
Pokemon did this in XY with "half arts" but they flopped.
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>>59323264
I wonder why it took them so long to give dragons their own type.
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>>59323264
I like this. Still need to get one for my Flygon collection.
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Would this general be interested in a lottery system that doesn’t end, rewards every 75 minutes for slabs and only costs $10-15 to get a ticket?

You can even sell that ticket at a later time, the ticket could be the same or higher price even later. Thoughts? (I’ve won twice so far, total value between $400-600)
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>>59323838
They probably didn't want to confuse kids by making types without matching energies
Inb4 dragon energy and attacks exists and i don't know
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Unironically I think vintage and mid era commons and uncommon are some of the best looking cards in the game. There are some foils that I think look good but generally speaking most of the "grails" or "chases" look like shit and I think people only like them because they're expensive. I'd be a horrible "investor" but collecting is very stress free.
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>>59323737
God I hate that little faggot Hop. Why he got picked for Trainer's Pokemon I'll never know.
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>>59323865
?
It was because of DEI
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>>59323865
We got robbed of a real Leon's Charizard and it's a fucking shame.
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>>59323852
Fuck off nigger
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>>59322028
>doing some shopping on Cardmarket
>cards worth more than 5€ without pictures
>ditto but have "ask for pictures" on the description
WHY NOT HAVE PICS FROM THE START YOU FUCKING MONGOLOIDS?
You card may be straight out of a pack, without a single scratch and with perfect centering, but if it isn't bulk and has no pic, I won't be buying shit.
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>>59323970
I've asked like 5 people the last week for pictures and none of them have responded. The amount of photos on cards in Pokémon is pretty vast though compared to other TCG's. You'll see mf'ers all day over at MTG, YGO and FaB with cards in the 100-1000 euro range without photos
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>>59323970
The worst are the ones that you ask for pics and they don't send you shit and ignore you. It's like are you even trying to sell anything nigga? Doesn't even matter for how much they're selling they don't care about a possible purchase
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>>59324209
Yeah, I even try to hog their shit in my cart and still no luck. Fuck cardmarket niggers fr
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I have learned not to pay $15-20 a pack in the hopes of getting the SIR I wanted and just bought it as a single. Also $20 per ascended pack is wild. I opened a bunch of mega evo and got the SIR Lillie, though. (which I wanted)

in any case. packs need to be like $5-$7. some older sets are absurdly high.
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>>59324344
stores here sell AH packs at $9 per packs
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>>59324373
thats not so bad, problem with AH is it's a large set so getting a specific card is pretty hard, but it's all RNG. i've opened a box before and got no SIR, then I opened like 6 packs of chaos and got the AZ and mega Floette SIRs. that's randomness for you.
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>>59324384
well, I opened a whole chaos booster box and didn't get any of the cards I wanted
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>>59324392
still pretty good, many people want that ampharos over some of the SIRs even. but yeah, it's hit and miss, the next one could have 5 SIRs, who knows.
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>>59324395
pretty cool, reminds me of megaman
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>>59324396
I'm a poorfag so I won't be able to buy new cards for the next few months now
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>still buying vintage
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>>59324403
just get a bundle or packs every now and then, for some odd reason i've had better luck with special illustrations in bundles/single packs. but that's just RNG. you could buy 3 packs and get 3 rare cards, it depends.
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>>59324431
the best luck I had was when I bought a mega gardevoir poster collection and got this
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>>59324448
yeah, ascended heroes is a big set so it's hard to get specifics, getting a special with a trainer is still lucky though.
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>>59324469
I guess
I wish I got Lillie's Clefairy instead... that's the card I want the most from ascended
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>>59323573
meant for >>59323420
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>>59324477
sometimes it's better to save up and just buy the single if you really want it. that's what I did with the mega gardevoir, I wanted it cause the art is really nice and the odds of an SIR are like 1/90 and that specific one is like 1/1000 or something silly. i'm not opening 1000 packs, so buying the single on ebay makes more sense. if it isn't super expensive, it's better to just buy singles sometimes, or if you really want one card for your collection.
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>>59324503
it's not as expensive as other Lillie cards but still quite up there
but yeah, I think that's what I'm gonna do now, save some money and buy it
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I'm a poorfag and also exhausted all my luck as a kid with some epic pulls
How do I enjoy this garbage nowadays
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>>59324705
buy a deck
play locals
win prizes
open epic pulls for free
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>>59324705
get a few packs a week and let RNG do the rest

buy singles if they arent too expensive and you like it
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>>59324550
I keep being tempted to spend half a grand on one card I want but remind myself that I could get several switch 2 games or some clothes or a nice trip some place instead.
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>>59324787
the nice thing about a rare collectible is it will be nice even in 20 years. games are fun too but when you beat it, you might play it again but the card still has more value.

I dont even plan to sell my rares down the line, I just like having rares with nice art to look at. imo if there is one particular card you like it's worth getting, as a centerpiece for your cards if you have them on display or whatever.
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>>59324814
The thing is that its only an issue with pokemon cards being massively scalped as some kind of money laundering operation just like Vtubers.

I never had to even question if cards were fake or not with other card games because most of them did not go over $100 per single and the vendors were not some shady fucks with minimal communication who always gave off bad vibes.
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>>59323573
I wasn't trying to profit, just realised when I went yesterday and saw cards I wanted but couldn't justify dropping the cash on I had cards gathering dust that I don't care about I could put towards those.
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Grogu won
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>>59325363
These Pikachu clones keep getting uglier and uglier.
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Opening a few boosters. First pack is nice. Crobat is one of my favourite pokemon
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Probably my favourite card I pulled. Chrome reverse with cool beldum art
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Bought this card at $50. Should I sell it or wait for the Rayquaza set? I like Zinnia but don't really care for Rayquaza.
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>>59324344
Basically any card that's like $25 and under, just buy without thinking. Any card that's $6 and under, you can't even buy the packs for that little.
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>>59324705
Find card shows in your area. Even smaller ones will have like 2 dozen vendors with lots of cheap fun stuff, it's not all just slabs and sealed. Basically everyone follows TCGplayer pricing, and most will have binders full of shit.
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>>59325621
>buying chinese because the english and japanese were too expensive
lmao
might as well have just gotten korean if you couldn't afford the best version
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This is a weird fucking hobby
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Thankfully most EN female trainer supporter cards are pretty cheap. The problem is if you can find it.
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I bought a box of Pokemon cards when I was in Thailand to add to my collection and I guess also some other random booster thingies from toys r us. gonna give out some packs to my friends
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>>59325819
But Chinese is better than E*gl*sh
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>>59322245
GameStop or brick n mortar stores like Target or Meijer. Meijer has restock every Saturday morning and people start lining up every day outside the door at about 3AM. Pretty common to see 100+ dudes out there by the time they open at 6.

THANK YOU LOGAN PAUL AND SPECULATION INVESTORS FOR RUINING MY HOBBY AND THANK YOU FOR MOVING ON TO VINTAGE RARE MANGA AS YOUR NEXT SCAM o7
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>>59325911
it goes english for nostalgia/wotc, japanese for quality/exclusivity and chinese for newpoors
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>>59325911
>But Chinese is better than E*gl*sh
The card graphic quality and holo effects yes because it's the same factory as the japanese
However the japanese factory also prints the thai/indonesian cards, yet you don't want those?

Even still, the chinese language looks extremely gross compared to the japanese, even the korean language looks better than chinese language

More importantly, everyone knows you're a poor faggot if you buy chinese cards
With the exception of exclusives like captain pikachu of course
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thw only reason to collect Chink cards is because it's the only language to not censor Misty's belly button.
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>scalpershills yet again trying to shill their overpriced cardboard
>Yet again not buying any of that shit and either saving my money or buying other things
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>>59325917
Those faggots can't even read jap. They must have a really fun manga collection
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>>59324344
I keep holding off on getting that. Cannot tell which is a real listing or not.
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>>59326223
Also mogs the lame boring gold rarity card desu.
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have yet another charizard
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ngl this looks like straight ass
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>>59326370
>>59326348
surely they hold off showing us the good stuff? no hype at all and this might actually pop the bubble
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>>59326370
I like the IRs but hope we'll get them at some point without the fuck-off-ugly Pikachu stamp
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>>59326377
you're incredibly retarded if you don't think the basedboys will be lining up to sink their life savings into these cards
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>>59326223
ebay does authentication now (through psa, even), someone verifies it then they ship it to you.

if it says authenticity guarantee theres a step where it takes 1-2 days extra but you know it's legit. has a code you can scan on the back that has a seal.
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>>59326370
I like the concept of Mew and Mewtwo but the execution is awful
can't wait the cards to cost bajillions and people here claiming the hate the cards buying 3 copies each anyway
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>>59326421
*but make sure the listing says authenticity guarantee on the listing (below it), should be automatic for most valuable cards over a set amount. if it turns out to be a fake, you pay nothing. but big vendors would be stupid to submit fakes through this process and tank their reputation.
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>>59326370
That Mew and Mewtwo are the ugliest things to come out in a while
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>>59326370
Reprint list from what we can see in the website.
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>>59326523
GX and V cards stick out like a sore thumb, the borders are so ugly
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>>59326370
nu-Pokémon is so garbage, even the cards look bad
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>>59326370
There has to be a better placement for the promo logo, that thing runs everything it touches for me
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