Is Colosseum good and worth playing today?
>>59323756Didn't play it through but the concept was cool and I liked how you had a pretty girl following you.
>>59323756nono
>>59323785Yes.Double yes.
>>59323756Only if you have a way to transfer your GBA mons in to play. Nintendo put Gale of Darkness on NSO instead because you can end up being softlocked during Colosseum's main story if you don't perfectly metagame it.
>>59323756Not really, people just have nostalgia for the unique setting and MC. Playing it is a slog, battles take ages, your roster of available Pokemon is 90% shitmons, towards the end there's suddenly a big level spike in your opponents to try and roadblock you into grinding.
>>59323839>your roster of available Pokemon is 90% shitmonsThat is cool as fuck though. Of course no one is gonna put Stantler or Sunflora on their team in a game where you could instead have a Gengar or a Metagross. Making a game where nearly all the available Pokemon are shitmons gives you a reason to use Pokemon no one ever uses.
>>59323756The aesthetic of the setting is peak, but the game isn't quite like a mainline in its scope. Stil recommend it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GO9CU7fygVk
It's not a game for replays, but it's worth playing once.
>>59323859In theory it's a cool idea, but in Colosseum the selection is so sparse and bad that you will just end up relying on Espeon, Umbreon and your Johto starter until you get the legendary dogs because everything else is so bad that you have to spam more Full Restores than Lance to get through any segment.
>>59323871You might just be bad.
>>59323859Yeah it's the OG trashlocke. And I mean that in a good way.
>>59323875>NOOO WASTE EXP ON THE JOHTO SHITMONS FOR NO REASONStop projecting.
>>59323886I don't care what pokemon you use. Makuhita is available right away if you want a non-johto pokemon. You're still bad.
>>59323871>>59323886NTA, but not the game's fault your autistic brain is incapable of simply playing with Pokemon you like. People joke about players optimizing the fun out their game, but you've literally done that. The main appeal of Colosseum has always been a slightly higher level of challenge (compared to mainline), as well as the visual/audio spectacle. Even 3D Pokemon today has never surpassed that. I would seriously advise anyone who's ever been interested in Colo/GoD to ignore this poster's opinions
>>59323756It is unironically the peak of the series
>>59323927>it's challenging>"no it isn't">NOOOOOO STOP OPTIMIZING THE FUN OUT OF THE GAME
>>59324108You're making things up to seethe at.
Genuinely why don’t they try this again?>lease a side title to a high quality dev studio>limited mons but all get high fidelity retro 3D models with tons of unique animations and SOUL>quirky, memorable bad guys>slightly grittier environment and story but come the fuck on its still PokemonThis SHOULD be a license to print money… Or at least it would have been back before the Switch 2 dropped lol
>>59324224WiWa will be the turning point where the hardware is just right and GF has gotten just enough experience to not make a janky 3D experience. Better late than never.
>>59324241>GF has gotten just enough experience to not make a janky 3D experiencekek
>>59323756It's literally free with nso. Go play it and form your own opinions.
>>59324365>free>with nsoI was going to emulate it if anything. I don't pay for NSO, let alone the extra-jewish tier required to play 25 year old games.
>>59323756Its garbage
>>59324224>This SHOULD be a license to print money… Or at least it would have been back before the Switch 2 dropped lolNo? To play that wank, you needed a $250 console AND a $50 game, while the GBA was 100 cheaper and the games 20 cheaper per unit. Not only had Pokémania died, the gaming audience left Nintendo behind for the PS2 and Xbox during Gen 3 meaning there were few outside the brain damaged kids who screamed at mummy to buy shit with "Pokémon" slapped on the box actually bothered with buying it. But then again, it's unsurprising every spin off not autistically connected to Game Freak's own game series in some concrete fails to actually sell to the wider gaming audience (Pokopia's already confirmed to0 have outsold both colo and gale individually and at this stage has likely outsold both put together).
>>59323756Definitely, though keep in mind 80% of the roster is Johto if that matters to you. Double battles are based and the endgame/postgame is a solid challenge. Just don't try to purify everything, it's a huge slog in this game.
>Espeon and Hariyama simulator
>>59324404Zoomoid, GameCube was being sold for $99 by the time Colosseum released.
>>59324851I was playing Jak II on my PS2 then, small wonder I didn't know. Just further proving my point though, same price as a handheld, yet no cunt wanted to play a Not!Pokémon "Pokémon" RPG. Except kids whose parents understood they were FAR too young for a playstationbox. Hence why it wasn't "a licence to print money". That's Game Freak's games, in case you spent the last 30 years with your head up your hole.
>>59324404Now its the moment, put a small story expanding the world of pokemon, release them on years with no mainline game, release them on February and there you goLegends and pokopia proved people will play any pokemon related
>>59323775>pretty
>>59325085Nothing a paper bag can't fix
>>59323756YesNo
>>59324888Biggest faggot award
>>59325062Nah. The fact dragon quest builders: retarded pokémon alpha child edition is on course to outsell EVERY non-Game Freak Pokémon game that got produced for sale prior should tell you that. Want to sell, get Game Freak to develop the core concepts and reasons for its place in the franchise and hand it off to another studio to make a game in another genres the only way to make a spin off "a licence to print money" (Switch 2 games aren't cheap either, they unironically cost more than Nintendo were hawking N64 carts for back in the day).
>>59325119Your name's on it, wouldn't want to deprive you of the only thing you ever won in your life.
>>59325168I'm literally fucking you in the ass dude
>>59325085She’s cute
>>59325210pretty UGLY haha
>>59323829How?
>>59325179And given you think anything with the word "Pokémon" slapped on it would "be a licence to print money" despite 30 years' hard evidence disproving it utterly (even with a cut-price console to try and beg unit sales of a dying console, left behind by the upstarts), I'm pretty sure everything you do say can be safely disregarded as a retard's fantasy where she isn't such a terminal failure.
>>59323756If you were born last century or raised on old RPGs, yes. If not, no.
>>59324241well anon i'm trusting you for a review then. i won't get the game till home compatability is out.
>>59323756it's not good at all, i felt lied to
>>59325950Calm down
>>59324241>WiWa
>>59326404Um, it's peak though. There's no acounting for taste, I suppose.
>>59323756Just play Gale of Darkness instead, honestly. Much more polished and fleshed-out game
>>59326787The protag looks like a faggot, though. Wes and Rui are way cooler, though.
>>59324888>Hence why it wasn't "a licence to print money".It also didn't help that at the time they were still a fairly new IP and not automatically a "too big to fail" and/or a disney tier brand (although wildly successful and having ridden the Pokémania hype). I think many people at the time even assumed Pokémon was going to fall off the cliff after the Pokémania died down.I don't think kids or the casual audience back then cared too much about who was making the games. The titles probably would have been more successful if they were released today.
>>59326763You are a tranny yourself thoughbeitt
>>59323756No, it needs another entry or remake but it’s never going to happen too edgy for nupkmn
>>59326763Why WiWa and not just WW?
The Orre games need either a sequel or remake of sorts to modernise and improve a few aspects of the game. Doesn't seem very likely because they weren't made by GF and many teams used by npcs have some degree of thought put behind them since they're double battles.
>>59326913They wouldn't anon. PMD DX flopped, despite having an audience multimillions strong buying Pokémon on Switch.It took Game Freak setting a concept for a spin off and palming it off to another studio to develop for a Pokémoon spin off to actually sell like a core game. Pokopia's at 4m already, that puts it above every individual spin off released, except Pokémon Pinball and Pokémon Stadium's international edition. Unless Game Freak's name is on it somewhere as part of the dev team, the normalfags ignore it.
>>59323859this jumpluff being the GOAT can't happen in a mainline game.
>>59327820Yeah it's the OG Trashlocke. Not as refined as fanmade ones, but at least worth one playthrough.
>>59323859Until you remember it’s a pre-gen 6 pokemon game so there’s no reason to ever waste exp on anything except your starter anyway
>>59327816>They wouldn't anon. PMD DX flopped, despite having an audience multimillions strong buying Pokémon on Switch.Yes, but a game reminiscent of the core series might fare better, especially one that's on par with the mainline games (although truthfully, Colosseum/XD were glorified side games that didn't fully replicate the mainline experience even though they conceptually could have).
>>59324365It's not added yet, they did XD instead probably because it's a lot better
>>59327906The issue is the core series style is Game Freak only, you retarded little shitbag. That's unironically why to catch shit in colo, you had to jump hoops, instead of having wild random battles (Game Freak only mechanics).And if your best argument is "just do what Game Freak do", just cut out the fucking middle man and buy Game Freak's games. Wait, the normal cunts do that anyway....
>>59328136>The issue is the core series style is Game Freak only, you retarded little shitbag.Who pissed in your tendies? Calm down.
>>59323829>you can end up being softlocked during Colosseum's main story if you don't perfectly metagame itIsn't level grinding an option?
>>59323871Did you not do a single colosseum ever? You know they give you TMs as well as experience and EVs right? Are you actually this bad at Pokemon? You don't even need to do Mt. Battle.
>>59327920The actual gameplay experience of Gales is miles ahead of Colo, but Colo is still a better game.
>>59323756Yes.>>59323785>>59326404>>59324399Stop listening to e-celebs.
>>59323870Basically this, you play it to see the novelty of a Pokemon RPG campaign existing on the Gamecube.Pretty sure they made it double battles to compensate for the Stadium-style speed, but it's novel as well.
>>59328157Constantly having to deal with dense cunts like you. The only spin off that actually copied Game Freak mechanics was made in conjunction with Game Freak (GO, given it was an expansion of a googlehunt and justified to Game Freak's standards eg it's related to the pokémon world, but not directly part of it). Everything else gave you a capture styler, a snag ball or flat-out made you a pokémon, to justify recruiting pokémon without actually catching the fucking things in a wild random battle. If you dickheads didn't treat Game Freak like a cog in the marketing machine, instead of the driveshaft powering the whole fucking thing, I wouldn't be half as caustic, as I'd know the vast majority of people I'd be dealing with had a modicum of intelligence and common sense. Instead, you showed up.
>>59323756No.>>59328196Stop being bad at Pokemon games.
If they made a Gen 4 sequel to these games on the Wii, who would your two starter mons have been? >hardmode: No Leafeon / Glaceon
>>59328230>I wouldn't be half as caustic, as I'd know the vast majority of people I'd be dealing with had a modicum of intelligence and common sense. Instead, you showed up.Get over it manbaby.
>>59328230And I almost forgot to mention that the so-called ‘people’ on this board are the most narrow minded twits I’ve ever had the displeasure of posting with. Half of you have never felt a man’s touch, and will never know the joy of fondling his big hairy balls or sucking the baby batter straight out of his musky penis. Only a gathering of knuckle-dragging protozoa like yourselves could get me this pissed, and if you literal heterosexuals don’t shut the fuck up I’ll be forced to write a third, even meaner post.So watch. Your. Fucking. Tone.
>>59328293Since they were loving to make Lucario important around gen 4, I think it would be been Riolu + something else.Maybe Riolu + a Kanto or Johto starter.Kanto and Johto starters wouldn't have type overlaps with Riolu. Not including Hoenn because it would have Fire/Fighting overlap that would make Torchic less desirable, and no Sinnoh starters because 2 out of 3 have overlap AND they would already be offered in Diamond/Pearl. Since Coloseum/XD had a Johto focus, they would probably replicate that style again in a Wii game campaign.
>>59328330Forgot to add but I'm trans btw!
>>59328344Cry harder about it, then. We won't mourn your departure.
you should also play Pokemon XD
>>59323756i recently did my first run of my game on dolphin with an hd texture pack. the game is definitely a battle sim but wes and rui are cool, and the vibes are immaculate. i played the grand colosseum hack too and would highly recommend that version for some qol and higher difficulty. the game is a bit slow and grindy sometimes though... feel free to speed it up though some here may call that sacrilegious.