>called Potions>are actually just antiseptic spray
>>59327886The pokemon world has literal magic. Potions are just concentrated magic packaged.
>>59327886Potions can be applied topically
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>>59327900Magic is very rare in the Pokemon worldEven psychics are more common than magic users.
>>59327959what else can you call it when a tiny turtle can shoot more water out of its body than it can possibly contain?
>>59327886>put liquid into a spray bottle>it comes out as a sprayWhat? I don't understand. Why does this happen? I'm so confused.
>>59327886Pokemon was planned throughout the early 90s and came out in 1996 when JRPGs were still all the rage, the name "potion" was simple to understand for anyone who had touched a JRPG before....They just never expected Pokemon to get so big that it would be the only turn-based RPG that millions of people would play all over the world.
>>59328012Water compaction?
>>59327959anon, it's ALL magic. psychics is magic. if it's a pokemon type or related to pokemon energy, it's magic. pokemon are made of magic. their pre-pocket monster name in universe was magical beasts.
>>59328181>if it's a pokemon type or related to pokemon energy, it's magicPsychic-Type used to actually mean something specific with traditional telekinesis/ESP, it's easily the most gutted type for its original theming.
>>59328191t still does, just like fire type still means combustion and electric type still means a flow of electrons.they're still all three magic.
It's liquid medicine. Nothing magic about it.
>>59328562it's made from processing pokemon tree berries, which are distinct from human food plants due to their intense flavors and magical properties on pokemon (for instance, oran berry healing 10hp).Strawberries and Rawst berries both exist in pokemon world, as do Tomatoes and Tamato Berries.It's infused with the same magic as pokemon are made of.Magic berry = magic medicine.
>>59327886There's a mage in the production line blessing each batch so they work properly. On industrial scales its the only way to ensure reliable healing.
>>59327886When I was a kid I knew it was spray, but I still preferred the idea it was a bottle the Pokemon drank from. I still do prefer it. The antiseptic spray is just lackluster to me.
>>59328591Bruh where da it say the berries are magic? Ur jus makin' it up.
>>59327886Blame the shitty translation. It's just called medicine in Japanese
>>59328788>Weeb scraping the bottom of the barrel to suck up to Japan.Potion is an excellent translation for a JRPG. Certainly a better choice than generic, "medicine".It's not always good to literally translate when localizing and the japs will never accept you, gaijin.
>>59327926this is incorrect
>>59328058By being forced through a tiny hole, the liquid gets broken into many small droplets (which is the spray)Good thing your whore mother isn't that tight
>>59328813It's a shit translation no matter how you look at it. It's supposed to be a spray. Potion suggests exclusively oral ingestion, which is incorrect. Ointment would've been a better translation for one.>b-b-but it's le JRPGIn a semi-futuristic setting, retard. Potions are a fantasy or at least a middle ages thing.
>>59328849>Weeb troglodyte hopes senpai Japan will notice him.Yes, "Wound Medicine" and "Good Wound Medicine" would be so much better than Potion and Super Potion.You're still a dirty gaijin to them.
>>59328857>B-b-b-b-but nakama means besto friendo
All the shamans and naked witchcrafts in this thread who tell you something about >le magic.Quantum mechanics in a macroscopic space is also magic, right?
>>59328878Begone, Clarke's Third Law! We will not have you getting in the way of our bickering, here!!!!
>>59328857Nigga I don't even know why we are having this discussion. Potion is OBJECTIVELY a bad translation. No matter how much you seethe about Japan. It's factual that Potion doesn't properly describe the item it's supposed to describe, and that something like ointment would've been a better translation. I don't give a single fuck if the original language is Japanese, German, Swahili or Maori. It's a shit translation, because it's not a fucking potion.
>>59328893Beldum is cute.
>>59328696They are gone in the johto games through, and given they tend to get possessed easily, its not hard to know where they ended up at
>>59328893>the item it's supposed to describeIs a generic health restoration item in an RPG. The guy on route 1 shoves a potion in your hands and you instantly know it'll fix up your hurt Pokemon.Ointment brings to mind a thick cream you'd be slathering on a burn (like Burn Heal) and not a spray bottle. It isn't a good translation for the intended imagery that itself isn't in the game to start with.
>>59328155>compacting>water
>>59328813>But>headcanonThe pokémon localization was (and still is) an utter mess. At one point they even wanted to redesign the pokémon too because they thought the original were too sissy looking for americansHere's a fun interview about localization:https://lparchive.org/Pokemon-Blue/code.htmlYou're going to say tl;dr so here's a little fun snippet:>"Didn't get to do the all caps stuff (meaning move names, poke names, places, NPCs, etc. etc.) until around Gen 3 because my NOA handler was convinced he had a better handle on things. Which is why there were howlers like Slowbro being a "Hermit Crab Pokemon" and Marill becoming a "Polkadot Pokemon." Oh, and fucking RAGECANDYBAR.>It used to drive me bananas that they'd pay me to translate, and then refuse to reason with me over issues like that.
>>59328920>Mindless drivelSee what >>59328915 said.>Is a generic health restoration item in an RPGPotion communicates to the player it's function loud and clear.
>>59328915Just cause it's "functional" translation doesn't mean it's a good translation. Ointment would communicate the exact same thing AND it would additionally communicate that this is a modern setting and not a fucking medieval fantasy setting which is what "potion" suggests. It is and will always be a shit translation.
>>59328941The first thing you see when gameplay starts is your TV with a SNES, and a computer sitting in the corner of your room. The setting is established before you ever find a potion.Let's say they do go with "Ointment" as the translation for the spray-on wound medicine, though. The character limit for items in gen 1 is 12 characters, and ointment takes up eight of them. How are you translating what became Super, Hyper, and Max Potions? GoodOIntment? BestOintment? Ointment2 and 3 like early Final Fantasy spells? Using a longer word for the base item makes its derivatives more awkward
>>59328745everything that interacts uniquely with pokemon is magical. because pokemon are made of magic.>>59328920to be fair, if far left was american dragonite and far left were american charizard, they would have indeed sold quite well.>>59328920huh, I wonder why they don't go back and fix the bad early localizations.
>>59329236same reason they didn't merge the nidorans in gen 2.
>>59328941>>59328966HealSprayFunctionally descriptive. Perfectly accurate lore description. Only 3 more letters so fits in the 12 character limit like so:>HealSpray>HealSpray+>HealSpray++>HealSpray+++>MaxHealSpray
I still want an ability called something like "tool user" that allows the mon to use items like potions or whatever on themselves in-battle. Fun in-game, useful in vgc/official formats cus item clause, and if it allowed the use of items like x attack etc it would be quite strong.
>>59328849>Potion suggests exclusively oral ingestion, which is incorrect.Potion does not in any way suggest oral application.
>>59327886Its futuristic medicine. Hemostatic Sprays were a medical concept back in the 90s that is now a real think in the form of XSTAT, Celox, and Quickclot.Just like the how he design for the breathing device in the pokemon anime was based on a loose concept of just converting the air in water into breathable oxygen, that too is the design of a model currently being patented.English speakers need to realize, ONLY JAPANESE IS CANON.
>>59329321> It derives from the Latin word potio which refers to a drink or the act of drinking.Fucking retard.
>>59329236>wonder why they don't go back and fix the bad early localizationsThey've fixed some. The most recent one was finally correcting the translation of the "hane" items from "wing" to "feather". Only took them like 25 years.
>>59329352>the latin definition of its root word is what its current english word means
>>59329435>potionnoun [ C ]>a liquid that is believed to have a magical effect on someone who drinks itYes.
>>59329456>NOOO THERE'S ONLY ONE DEFINITION AND THAT'S MY DEFINITION, YOURS DOESN'T COUNT
>>59329461You're doing the same thing AND dismissing the etymology of the word on top of that. Plus, your definition doesn't exclude ingestion at all. Pot, kettle, etc.
>>59328181>or related to pokemon energyHuman psychics are not manipulating 'pokemon energy.'
>>59328012Violating the laws of physics?>>59328916It's just very dense water.
>>59329347Nah senpai, there's differnt canons. The English canon is just as valid as the japanese canon.If anything it's more canon, because more people adhere to it. Disgusting weebs.
>>59329509You genuinely don't even know what you just said. I didn't say your definition was wrong, just that it was not the only one. And etymology is unrelated to meaning. Etymologically, "nice" used to be a way of saying "idiot". "girl" used to refer to BOYS instead of girls. "manufacture" used to mean "made by hand". Potion having its roots in a drink does not mean it is inherently a drink. It also doesn't mean it can't be a drink, just that it is not necessarily so, which is what you claimed.Don't talk about things you know nothing about, much less in a language you're not proficient in...
>>59329885You seem to misunderstand. The games canon and the mechanics of the game are ONLY canon to the Japanese Version.No matter how much you cry, Ampharos will never learn Firefly Glow, Surprise Attack will never be boosted by Iron First, and Swallow's Return will always be boost sharpness.Hell, English players don't even realize the entire story of BW was about Japanese linguistics. Reshiram's (真実)Truth and Zekrom's(理想)ideals indicate that together they are unified in first characters as (真相), "The whole truth"Accept that ONLY the Japanese version is canon.
>>59329885>There are different canons.Bingo. Just like with game canon and anime canon, in nip canon it's Green Oak and in most canons it's Blue Oak.The gaijin show a lot of loyalty for masters that see them as pathetic.
>>59329885Localisation slop is never canonYou'd understand if you weren't a monolingual dimwit
>>59329967Nah gaijin, you don't have a say over what is and isn't canon. The English canon is just as valid as the Spanish canon is just as valid as the Japanese canon.That's just the way it is. Your feelings mean nothing.
>>59330123Then why doesn't Sucker Punch work like it should in English if the english translation is canon?
>>59330123Neither do youLocalisation errors are errors and not canon and you're a fucking moron for believing it is because you have a hateboner for Japs or some shit
>>59330178you are a grade A retard
>>59330178You're right I don't decide that the English canon is equal to the Japanese canon. I'm simply telling you it as it is.If I became a weeb it wouldn't change the fact that both canon's are equal.
>>59330358>nooo translation errors are canon because I hate japs and I must copeKys
>>59330358Yeah they don't realize that "canon" is actually a religious term. These weebs are literally treating pokemon as a religion.Like they actually get offended over calling someone Blue instead of Green. Zero self-awareness on how pathetic they really are.
>>59329515they are literally using psychic type moves anon.same as a human that can detect aura is doing fighting type stuff.
>>59330370Bro just answer the question, why does Sucker Punch not work with Iron Fist if english is canon? Why does Meteor Mash work with is? Come on anon, you can answer this, i believe in you.
>>59330364Explain why Abilities only take into account Japanese names and not localized names
How do these work?
>>59328012Cool, it's called cool fucking shit.
>>59329515pokehumans are some sort of pokemon anon
>>59330656Don't bring it up, then you'll have to explain the concept of Genki to an American.Just say its "a bundle of energy" meant to be given to an "near dead" pokemon.
>>59328920>Slowbro being a "Hermit Crab Pokemon" But that's what it's based on, the "yado" in Yadon, Yadoran and Yadoking comes from "yadokari", the nip word for hermit crab. It just looks weird in English because unlike the Japanese word, the English word "hermit crab" has "crab" in it, and these guys aren't crabs.
>>59330682The idea that humans are Pokemon has been debunked by canon
>>59330694genki isn't even hard to explain
