Just leave it if you don't like it anymore.You're not the target audience any longer.You've stopped being their main financial beneficiary.
how could this happen to meI made my mistakes
It got better with every new game.
>>59336565True, their main beneficiary are scalpers who immediately buy up merchandise the instant it's on sale.
>>59336561>Primarina “soulless”Severe lack of taste
It evolved, grew and adapted to the stressors, constraints and realities of a modernising world.Why haven't you?
you're not with it
>>59336561You're never going to win again kaijufaggot
>>59336561>soul is when scaliesthat green lizard doesn't even look like it belongs with the other two
>>59336561we owe the unova starters an apology. they at least looked like monsters. emboar not so much, but in comparison to say incineroar it does.
>>59336696Dunno what planet you're from where a bipedal tiger's not utterly monstrous, but that's why they still in essence ARE monsters.Despite your seeming inability to tell fictional constructed worlds developed by western minds from reality, that you think a Japanese IP adding beings like that to their series are utterly normal beings, thus unfitting for a series based on magic al elemental monsters. Because by your standards, this ain't a monster, but a kid's cereal mascot too.
>>59336561>What happened to the franchise i used to love?from that pic it looks like brown people happened
>>59336696>they at least looked like monsters. Define "Monster" and how a monster is supposed to look like
>>59336561I'll ask you a question: when was the last time you were happy with this franchise?Better yet, when was the last time you were happy in general?
>>59336728You know the kids on the right aren't white but Japanese, yeah? Because a series featuring yellows, then whites/blacks/islanders, then going to Europe to further diversify the series was never in fact yours and the fact you couldn't see than back then highlights just how critically low IQ you are.
>>59336735The kids on the right are flips and iberians though
>>59336731What shit pokémon was adding when she was a child, when it wanted her to buy in like the rest the drone retard children they hoover up every year and Generation.As every shitbag who spews something similar to that ilk thinks.
>>59336737So? You're self-inserting into a different race, then getting mad OTHER different races (including your own, finally, after the token burgerstan rep in Gen 1) showed up. Boo-fucking-hoo, the Pokémon world isn't a backwards shithole held back by the dregs of their humanity like we are with cunts like you.
>>59336731
>>59336696>prince, samurai, warlord>monsters
>>59336741By this logic dracula isn't a monster and we both know that's not true
>>59336726shut up brainlet the real problem with incineroar isnt just that its bipedal. its another shitty jobmon whose identity is first thats its a big mean wrestler, then it has animal design stapled onto it
>>59336742>magical elemental snake able to grow and retract vines out its body at will, magical elemental pig able to manipulate and control fire while being unaffected by it, magical elemental sea lion able to produce highly pressurised water out of nothing>pedestrian or commonplace abilitiesOnly time I've seen humans shoot highly pressurised water out them is with diarrhoea shits, but that water still all came from the poor fucker's body and not out of nowhere.
>>59336746No, the real problem is it's popular and you're too incapable of accepting what you want isn't what the fanbase wants. I don't give a shit for megas, but plenty retards did and screamed for more. I'm not sitting like an autistic DJ scratching the same groove in the record about how much I don't want them though.This shit isn't for you now, learn to accept that or fuck off and play something that IS interested in sucking your cock for your money.
>>59336748>but that water still all came from the poor fucker's body and not out of nowhere. All water types throw out water from the body
>>59336746>its another shitty jobmonGonna cry about it unemployedcuck?
>>59336561You simply got older. And you're not getting your childhood back. Leave instead of dwelling in the past and chasing a feeling that is long gone and won't come back.Grow up.
>>59336741>a bird>It performs like a dancerwild, imagine that
>>59336752No, because even 2 days diarrhoea shits dehydrates a human badly and most "regular" water type moves end up spewing few more than a body COULD feasibly hold in its cells, let alone hold enough in its cells to keep the subject vital, while spewing the excess out as an attack.Shit was designed to ignore physics and be true magic, as pokémon was originally set in our universe and world, not their own near-earth equivalent. They killed the real world aspect, so killed the real world physics angle (it borrows ours, but then again, allows the magical elemental monsters to use their magical elemental powers while also reinforcing the humans in-universe to be unaffected by something as dangerous as 100,000 being run through a human body with no safety equipment or faraday cage-like equipment to safely channel the electricity to ground). And any animal that also has magical elemental powers AND sentience, sapience and emotional literacy becomes a monster, because they're not human, but not a dumb beast either.
>>59336768You're trying to apply real life logic to fantasy world Stop being autistic it's for your own good
>>59336561They made games without Green in it
>>59336757>Disingenuous reductionist drivelMaybe you should reflect on your position if that is the only way for you to defend it.
>>59336751i have no problem accepting any of that lol, popularity doesnt make a thing less shitand its not like they arent capable of designs that better integrate the job concept with the animal. like or dislike their designs primarina and decidueye work well conceptually, their 'jobs' line up decently with their visual inspirations and they look cohesive with the rest of its line. incin takes a good fire cat design with potential and drops flaming dookie all over it. if it had to be bipedal it should have been more like a kasha
>>59336661>It devolvedFtfy
>>59336561late stage capitalism
You're never getting your childhood back lmao
>>59336795>I know it's shit but I keep eating it anyway
>>59336795Who cares if some think it's shit. What it does mean is that they're successful monster designs, so they make more. Better than some cartoon animal noone cares about.
>>59336850>implying
>>59336894>cartoon animal noone cares aboutand look, hes bipedal! woah!
chapjeet the raped animal spam thread
>>59336561Quality of starters has gotten shaky but there's still good mons every new gen that I can make a full team.
>>59336561Feminised like everything else.
>>59336916>The only "Cartoon animal" people care about is a mythological creature that doesn't even exist Grim.
>>59336561They went less on cool monsters that could plausibly live in a natural environment to focusing on human characters and humanoid monsters with human jobs.
>>59336962>They went less on cool monsters When i think of "Cool" i don't think about morbidly obese non-dragon with scrawny twig arms
>>59336962Only for starters though.
Scalies>soulFurries>soulless This series just needs more anthro lizards to be saved
>>59336735anyone who's brown makes things worse, race doesn't matter
>>59336962The fuck you talking about?Paldea had a bit of everything, frankly. Yeah, starters are more humanoid but that's been that way since arguably gen 3/
>>59336561Why /vp/ hates niggers?
>>59337039Internalized hate is very common on 4chan
>>59336561They got so big they didn't need to try anymore, happens with every big franchiseFags like >>59336565 will support it no matter what
>>59337048You lost btw
>>59336735Hop isn't Japanese, and Nemo is aggressively Spanish.
>>59337060uh oh yawnie clittyleak
>>59337048This famicom is legit. Like "heyo wut's the deal-io" legit./thread right here. Bruv here killed it.
>>59336561Makes zero sense to have Charizard and the Ashnime listed under "soul" and Incineroar, Primarina, Meowscarada, Goh, and Pokopia on the "soulless" side.
If "soul" is being trash in battles then Sceptile being on the left is 100% accurate.
>>59336757Why do they keep trying to market to Kanto millennials?
>>59336561>OP really tried to sneak in Sceptile when Gen 3 was when GF realized this franchise would go on forever and have infinite regions
>>59336561The answer to all of this is in the ORAS interview. Pokemon games used to be made with kids in mind but not strictly for kids. Anyone could pick up and play the game casually and get through the pokemon league and have a fulfilling experience, but there used to be goals for hardcore players to achieve that increased the challenge. Things like Dex completion, battle facilities, and other stretch goals like filling the Villa in Platinum or BW2's medal rally. This all changed when Gen 6 came around. In an interview around when ORAS was building hype for release, Masuda and Ohmori were asked why the new games were so easy and didn't have a battle frontier despite the previous remake and the previous Hoenn game both having one. Their response was that kids don't spend as much time on one game anymore because of mobile platforms and they literally just cheaped out because they could. They're targeting literal iPad kids as of Gen 6 and making pokemon strictly for kids, which is why the production quality has gone down. It's the difference between the first 3 seasons of Spongebob and Cocomelon.
>>59337203Market Kanto and it's just, what, Charizard, Gengar, Pikachu, Eevee?The others get regionally replaced if lucky.
>>59336561women and troons love overdesigned shitthere's a reason gachashit is so popular right nowit has everythingoverdesigned characters, yuritranny/shipbaiting slop, and of course, non existent "gameplay" on top of endless yapping
>>59336565trvkefoids and troons are the target audience for this goyslopthey stopped pandering to guys
Uh oh chapjeet found the thread
>>59336794I've been playing since 2000 and I still like modern Pokémon. I realize that the Pokémon franchise evolves and adapts to current trends, and I think that's a good thing, I enjoy that. I don't think the older content or designs are superior to the newer ones. I have nothing left to reflect on, I'm perfectly aware of my opinion and I am content. I simply advise OP to stop caring about Pokémon because it clearly doesn't make him happy to engage with the franchise. Your point?>>59337203This is honestly a very Western phenomenon. You can blame Pokemania for it, because a lot of Westerners only interacted with the franchise then, and now feel huge nostalgia for it, and don't care about anything Pokémon outside of their experiences during Pokemania and thus also anything outside of Gen 1. To them, everything non-Kanto isn't "real" Pokémon, because they just care for their own nostalgia. Most of these people are normies, they only care about things that are popular and recognisable.Japan doesn't see this much of a Kanto bias, because Pokémon has been on a pretty static level of relevancy and didn't have an extreme Pokemania phase like we did. Kanto Pokémon still have the advantage of being around the longest of course, so they're still pretty popular. But take a look at the Japanese Pokémon Center website and you'll see that there is much less Kanto bias there compared to the Western ones.Besides, I wasn't claiming that Pokémon isn't for millennials anymore or anything. I'm a millennial myself. I'm just saying OP specifically wants something out of the franchise that is purely based on the past, hence my advice to stop interacting with it.
>>59337286>most popular pokemon get the most merchMy point still stands. They still want the 30+ audience that grew up with the series.
Most pokemon fans are normalfags disconnected from Japan and the rest of anime culture.Just look at Fire Emblem in an early 2000s game VS 2026, the kind of designs that you would have in an early 2000s shounen VS a 2026 shounen, which kind of girls would be made for fanservice anime/manga in the early 2000s VS 2026.This is a whole different landscape with more vivid colors and design details, they're made to hook your attention, not to make a "muh cohesive and realistic worldview".
>>59336561Hoenn will NEVER be a part of the classic gens.It represented a strike divide between what came before immediately.People always say Gen 5 was the soft reboot gen, but Gen 3 was more of one.
>>59336696Incineroar has been around for almost 10 years now
>>59336808We've apparently been in late stage capitalism since Karl Marx said so, yet the goalpost of when it happened keeps moving
>>59336962STARTERS ARE NOT REGULAR POKEMON, THEY CAN BE MORE SPECIAL
>>59337401Anon, you have zoomers now saying they "grew up wtth XY", you sound like one of those boomers in /vr/ refusing to accept that PS2 is a retro console now.If we're talking in terms of "Pokemania gens" then sure, it's gen 1-2, but if we're talking about "classic gens" then gen 3 is over 20 years old now.
>>59337440Pokemania is a pretty stark dividing line and not just that but,>Trading is cut off from previous games>Most old Pokemon are not in the Hoenn dex, establishing the pattern that new Pokemon replace old ones>Artwork is now digital instead of the handdrawn watercolor art from beforeAdding to the point above, the artwork created in 2002 for the Gen 3 Pokemon is still used to this day alongside brand new art from newer Pokemon.No generation has represented such a stark dividing line quite like going from Gen 2 to 3
>>59337444>Trading is cut off from previous gamesTrue.>Most old Pokemon are not in the Hoenn dex, establishing the pattern that new Pokemon replace old onesBut a Red/Green remake was already planned when Ruby/Sapphire were being made, they didn't intend to abandon older mons, they just wanted to spread them throughout the games which they eventually did as planned.>Artwork is now digital instead of the handdrawn watercolor art from beforeThe artstyle of pretty much every video game industry went through something like that, it's not exclusive to Pokemon. It hardware and software just happened to be there to allow for digital tools which had a lot of benefits.
>>59337451One thing I should mention is that Pokemon and other properties should be split into multiple eras instead of an arbitrary old and new.Sure, Hoenn isn't part of the same era as Paldea but it's also distinct from Kanto and Johto.Pretty much the same logic applies to console generations, the PS2 may be old now, but do you honestly believe it should be grouped in with the NES?
>>59337437>THEY CAN BE MORE SPECIALLike Meganium being a big sexy balloon.
Gen III is absolutely not grouped with Gen I and II except in the very, very specific categories of>Pokémon on a platform that has Game Boy in the name>Pre Nintendo DS Pokémon (not even true for some spin-offs like Blue Rescue Team, Ranger, and Dash)Gen IV is closer to Gen III than III is to II. Hell, Gen IV is closer to Gen II than III is to II. III is close to I only in the sense it was the first soft reboot and FRLG exist. Gen VII is just as Gen I as III.
>>59336561Pokemon used to be based off animals and dog fighting. Now it's about designing something to have sex with
>>59337505like Sylveonwhich is why Sylveon tops polls
>>59337305They'll go after demographics with spending money, and right now lots of western countries have a narrowing market that can only buy so much merchandise. TPC is a business and they're more interested in growing markets for the future than increasingly stratified, backwards facing ones. It's why they're putting so much effort into LatAm and SEA while being content to let the US market fester.
>>59336770>says the sperg getting mad over bipedal monsters because cartoons
>>59336801Not from where I'm sitting, but I didn't get brainwashed by the brand into thinking my debut gen was the be all and end all like you.
>>59337498saying gen 3 is the last classic gen is the clearest-cut case of "the games i started with are the best and everything after them is garbage, by pure coincidence"
>>59337275You know they added the BF as a method of encouraging children how to learn to PvP for the eventual "battle with real actual humans" shit they pushed, yeah?And that the ORAS interview AND the great tech leap forward the 3DS drove meant they could in fact cut out the middle man of "teaching kids how to pvp with no way to easily connect people to pvp because to get your phat or Lite DS online, you needed an extra wi-fi dongle by nintendo to do so. Yes anon, the world saw progress. Which was why they rationalise the removal of RNG halls most kids in the demographic DIDN'T play (because rehash sales never match new Gen pairs and on average only 10% of players actually finished the games), in favour of a big button on the main screen that connects kids to online, to let them battle and learn against real humans, backed by pokétuber guides. May as well bitch the games are still aimed at retard 7 year olds, despite so many adult wankers buying and playing and assuming they're still special. Oh wait, that's why you're religitating the decisions taken by devs of a series aimed at children 12 years after the fact.
>>59337307>it's only popular with oldfagsAnon, you understand if it was popular with shithead kids in gen 1, it's almost certainly going to retain that interest in Gen 10, yeah? Charizard's still fucking popular with kids, to the point it gets natively added to every game since Dexit. Pikachu saw Eevee join it as mascot, due to how fucking popular IT is compared to the other 1023 non-mascot pokémon. You niggers never saw boo to the gengarshilling, but it's as constant as 'zardshilling (well, not AS constant, as it still gets mogged in popularity by 'Zard. but point stands) so really it seems you fucks only cry that popular shit is actually popular, compared to the unpopular wank /vp/spergs gravitate towards.
>>59337440>but if we're talking about "classic gens" then gen 3 is over 20 years old nowSo it's "vintage", not "Classic". Classic will always be the very first games released, doubly so because the whole ethos, attitude and setting were WILDLY different to what the great retcon in 2002 shat out.
>>59337703And people saying "gen 1-2 are the only muh classics that I will accept, don't you dare smudge it with the later CRAP" isn't just a genwunner as well? It goes both sides at the end of the day, people will excuse the first couple of gens that they interacted with, "then everything else happens to be garbage when I became 15 years old and got standards".
>>59337505>pokémon spent months in development prior to Tajiri deciding to add a battle system to recruit capumons>third worlders still insist Tajiri was Michael Vick before Michael Vick
>>59337709>because to get your phat or Lite DS online, you needed an extra wi-fi dongle by nintendo to do so.If you were actually alive at the time, you'd know it worked just fine with the WiFi standards of the time. Unfortunately it only worked with the WiFi standards of the time, and not the new hotness that came out immediately after and supplanted it because technology was developing rapidly in the mid-2000's. To put it another way that you might be able to grasp, the original DS came out 3 years before the iPhone.
>>59337709>because to get your phat or Lite DS online, you needed an extra wi-fi dongle by nintendo to do soYou definitely did not need to do that, I was able to connect my ds to WiFi to play hunters online pretty easily
>>59337726the end of classic pokemon doesn't mean the games were no longer good. (i place the cutoff at gen 2 but my favorite gens are 4 and 5.) it's just that people who put the cutoff at gen 3 tend to also think gen 3 were the last good games.
The end of the pokemania was not something to do with the games, but rather the anime was really REALLY boring during the Johto era and all the kids dropped before the end.The anime recovered during gen3-4 and 6 but by that point it was just the hardcore Pokemon fans and the new generation of kids watching.
>>59337735>Unfortunately it only worked with the WiFi standards of the time, and not the new hotness that came out immediately after and supplanted it because technology was developing rapidly in the mid-2000's. To put it another way that you might be able to grasp, the original DS came out 3 years before the iPhone.So I was right, any kid who got into Pokémon in 2006 onwards, would likely need the dongle due to progress and their parents suddenly seeing value in an internet connection. 2006 saw new connections being plumbed into the new standards but to have one the existing connections, you'd have to had a REASON for it and unless Daddy had the internet to work from home instead of going into the office, kiddy didn't play on the internet. Because there WAS no child-focused internet ecosystem. I'm sure the old-old fags who possibly saw something in the thing, other than yet another potato handheld by Nintendo in the era of the Xbox360noscope would have been able to use their dial-up to get online. But the DSLkiddies who'd bought in with the lite and who got a new internet connection in the house would have had to paypig like I had to with my DS Lite and fresh install of a broadband connection. Stop talking about eras of humanity you weren't old enough to understand.
>>59337756Ok, I can see your point, and it is true, not every kid had access to wi-fi back then.But how is this any different from kids requiring NSO account (a services their parents have to pay for) to play online battles and trading in mainline games on the Switch?
>>59338927One-time purchase vs perpetual subscription.
>>59337048> they didn't need to try anymore,They never tried, the games always were dogshit and repetitive
>>59336561Different demographics, so different target audience
it’s growin on ya
You're welcome >>59341331
>>59337505and dog fighting.Peta controversy and other people said it was animal abuse, it doesn't surprise me that franchise became more childish and friendly because of this and the starters more humanoids
>>59341346The starters "became more humanoid" because the more animalistic ones didn't land in Gen 2 the way Charizard did in Gen 1 (don't even bother trying to bring the other two up, even in Gen 1 they were also-rans). When the Johto set all failed to catch fire in Japan, they needed to make changes going into Gen 3 to hope they could persist the series. Sugi singled out Blaziken as evidence of trying something different but Sceptile's right fucking there and wasn't originally a hybrid of what became another pokémon (and thanks to the Ash bonus landed for 2/3 starters being loved in Gen 3).The changes were made, due to human nature - we react more favourably to more humanoid creature designs and when it comes to "the very first pokémon kids pick to start their pokémon journey", Game Freak WANT kids picking the ones best able to be presented as a non-human best friend. If they weren't still making "literally an animalmon" every gen to the same lack of reaction the fuckers got from Gen 2 onward (because all Gen 1 shit got accepted for being the only fuckers to exist in Gen 1. But all 3 "literally my mom's fire horse/dog/fox from Gen 1 got redesigned for a younger audience starting 10 years ago), you might have a point. But when you're actually just highlighting common human reaction to things, it's not really the gotcha you want it to be.
>>59336561You became jaded and bitter as you grew older. You poisoned your brain into only seeing things that upset you. Go outside sometimes.
>>59336561Kek, OP really hates browns
>>59341354Even from gen 2 Typhlosion, the most human-like one, became the most popular one by far. It's an early sign, noticeable since gen 2 has perhaps the most animalistic dex.
>>59336565>any longerNever were
>>59341354Johto starters really flopped in Japan kinda?That’s surprising yous think kids would have loved at least gator and Typhloshion
>>59336969>>59337006>>59337437The humanoid with human job Pokemon arent just specific to starters, stop pretending to be dumb.
>>59341392Yes johto was critized because the designs were childish compared to kanto
>>59341392At least Typh, in that jp paldea poll it was the only gen 2 starter seen in top 100 if I remember correctly
>>59337440>you sound like one of those boomers in /vr/ refusing to accept that PS2 is a retro console nowBecause it isn't, you dumb cunt. Retro does not refer to the age of something. It's never going to be a retro console
Nothing it’s marketing they make new designs different because they know old pokemon always are going to sell and be the most popular
>>59336561You grew up. Same answer as the last time you asked.
>Grrrr [franchise] has stopped pandering to ME personally! They keep making things that upset me!>...however, I will still be a devoted fan of [franchise] and keep interacting with it!Why is this retardation so common? Autism? Refusal to grow up? Stockholm syndrome?
>>59336561>Adults arent the target audienceThen why are there more coombaits, waifus, sexual innuendo in the newer gen?GF even made an animation about a man marrying his Gardevior recently lol.
>>59341430>Then why are there more coombaits, waifus, sexual innuendo in the newer gen?There aren't.>GF even made an animation about a man marrying his Gardevior recently lol.They didn't.
>>59341354If this is true then people are beyond retarded.>series about fantastical animals>people want more humanoidsI'm now willing to believe that thing I read on /x/ saying empathy/relating to animals is directly linked to intelligence which would explain why the series gets more retarded the more humanoid the Pokemon get.
>>59341461The series was never about fantastical animals, it's about fantastic creatures, which includes animals, humanoids and inanimate objects. You're just biased.
