They could have replaced the gambling with so many different things, retro tcg simulator, any number of original mini games, worst comes to worst if they have no time they could have just put a Pokémon pinball Rom there. Two games they did nothing with it.
The real answer is that Game Freak is satisfied with not doing 101% and instead doing 70%.Their development scope grew too much with 3D so they're cutting corners and planning multiple games at once. It's too dense for the size of their staff.
>gambling addicts still seethingKekaroo
>>59338370too much effortthey refuse to hire more devs and they are being rushed for every releaseI watched a video where a guy went through some ZA dev documents, the devs seemed a bit enthusiastic about the game until a certain pointthe game didn't have those ugly flat buildings at first
>>59338370>Convince me the games aren't intentionally badI can't
>>59338397>I watched a video where a guy went through some ZA dev documentslink?
>>59338429>twitterso it's fake?
>>59338436>instant seethingso it's real?
>>59338456twitter is not reliable, people make shit up all the time
>>59338370>Convince me the games aren't intentionally badI don't think I can. Remember when they cut following Pokemon in BW and BW2, except for a tiny side quest just to prove that they could put it in but simply didn't for no reason?
>>59338460not him but pretty sure that one in particular, that hard mode doesn't actually change the stats, is real
>>59338384> "bro I don't like something so why would I wanted replaced with something I do like instead of just laughing at removed content?"
>>59339302Blame gen 5
>>59338370It's intentional and unintentional at the same. Intentional because the devs + Sugimori forced the one guy cracking the whip and making them do their jobs out of the director's chair so they could slack off and mail it in. Unintentional because these people just aren't capable of making a game above mediocrity even if they tried.
>>59338370Just letting us buy the tokens for TMs would have sufficed in both Johto and here.
>>59338370>They could have replaced the gambling with so many different thingsthey did. did you not see the rest of the city?
>>59338461BW didn’t “cut” following pokemon, it was being developed alongside HGSS and they never planned to add it. and BW2 was already having issues with cartridge memory, I’d rather have all the shit they did add than a flimsy cosmetic feature.
>>59339454>th-they didn't cut following pokemon, they just always planned on cutting following pokemon>th-there were memory issues, that's why they included the following mechanic and all the overworld sprites in the game anyway
>>59339485Unironically true. You that is not the other anon. This is copium. For the longest time people believed shit about other game engines too from gen2 memory issues and space and even a few gen3 things. Once the source code was cracked open it was just false rumors. I.E there was always enough space for Kanto in GSC GF just did not want to do it though the part about Iwata helping make the code less shit is true. I wager the same thing is true of BW, there was no core memory issue or space issue. GF just were being lazy niggers and just did not want to add that feature.
>>59338370Hoenn was in a recession.
I'll be honest, the one time they tried replacing it with Voltorb Flip, I absolutely fucking hated it
>>59339491I recall how strange it was when BW2 released at half a gigabyte. It was reasonably clear it only ended up that way because GF didn't want to trim the game and Ninty sales would recoup the cost.
>>59339503that's a personal problem, Voltorb Flip fucking rocked
>>59339503All this because europoors compared it to gambling. We don't have arcade mini-games in GERMANY!
>>59338370This isn't even the only stall in Mauville that's just completely wasted space. There are 3 move tutor booths and one is empty for the entirety of the game because the asswipe that runs the place is on the other side of town in the copy/pasted XY cafe. The other 2 stalls teach the same exact pool of Pokémon since it's just the pledge moves and the ultimate moves, so it could have just been one stall instead of stretching it to 2. The Poke-mileage shop is a whole shop when it was just an NPC in the pokemon center in XY, and since Poke-miles were a largely online based feature the stall is pretty much useless now. There's a mirror shop that exists purely to give the Reveal Glass, so you visit it once and never again making it effectively an empty stall. None of the mirrors even have reflections either. There are only 4 shops that are actually worth a shit and 3 of them are only really useful after you beat the game. The friendship massage parlor is always useful, but it's further away from the fly point requiring you to either walk past the pokemiles shop or the gym which are both way more limited in their utility than the massage place. There's the ribbon shop where you can buy the Ribbon Syndicate ribbons, which could be a potential noob trap if they don't know how ribbons work and end up blowing all their cash by Gym 3 on some aesthetic bullshit, and then there's the battle institute and inverse battle shop which are pretty fun, but way too limited in scope. The apartment area is largely empty too with more blocked off apartments than ones you can enter. Mauville in ORAS is bloated and shitty to navigate, especially with all the terrible loading zones that are completely antithetical to the continuous uninterrupted map design RSE had. The whole city is dogshit and the game corner is just them spitting in your eye with blatant corner cutting. They never remade the RSE game corner music either.
>>59339569Voltorb Flip was such a phenomenal minigame and hating it is a sign of low intelligence. Literally just counting and taking chances and even if you suck dick at the game you can use the online calculator to win pretty consistently and grind coins fast. Definitely more intellectually stimulating than trying to time slot reels, though I do definitely miss the slots.
>>59339628>all the terrible loading zones that are completely antithetical to the continuous uninterrupted map design RSE hadthis has always been a meme complaint
>>59339668Bro, how!?! It's entirely a reasonable criticism. One of Hoenn's greater technical achievements on GBA was its continuous world. Nu-hoenn completely misses the point and the map design suffers as a result. It just bogs things down and feels less smooth than the experience on GBA.
>>59339569>>59339632>game is just minesweeper, but with a bullshit luck element kills the fun of using actual skill>can’t consistently make good money because the game inevitably devolves into a coin flip which no amount of “skill” will help you circumvent >hurr just use a fucking online calculator (which doesn’t magically solve the luck based element btw) when I’m just want to sit and relax playing pokemon because it’s the only way to get flamethrower/once beam/thunderbolt>at least with slots you can just spam click A and required low effort overall. Voltorb flip actively requires you to put in a lot more effort just to end up in the same luck based bullshit gameplay loop anywaysThe real low IQ indicator is thinking this shit is any good, let alone any better than the slots it replaced. I don’t even care that they got rid of slots, I’m just glad they never brought back VF again.
>>59340559Skill issue. Also minesweeper also has a luck element. Unless you’re using a cuck version
>>59340559you can cash-out anytime if you're too pussy to GAMBLE on a winyou got filtered by a logic game meant for children
>>59338461The worst part of this is how much sense following Pokemon would have made in the context of Gen 5. Everything from the focus on your partnership with your Pokemon to N directly speaking to your Pokemon, which makes zero sense when they’re inside their Pokeballs. N should’ve been talking to your following Pokemon, obviously. It’s so blatant that they planned to and should have and just cut corners.
The gambling stuff never really felt like it belonged in Pokemon to me. It came from a time when pokemon was still new and raw and hadn’t really figured out what it was going to be yet. I mean what is really “pokemon” about it besides slapping some shitty sprites on it? Other side content like contests or the trick house actually require you to use and interact with your pokemon. I think it’s actually a refinement to cut the bloat and make the games more focused.
>>59340595Come to think of it, the kids who played X/Y as their first Pokemon game at 5 are turning 18 this year.
>>59339365I don't agree. Modern game freak could make a great game but the people at the top of GF set budgets low and make dev time short leading to a lot of cut corners. Modern games getting delayed is going to help but they're still operating on ps2-level budgets.
>>59340612Good. Those were some good games
>>59340646The game getting delayed isn’t going to help because it’s already done. It’s literally just sitting there waiting for them to release it. Like you said, budget is a constraint. They aren’t just going to spent $10 million more dollars just because they have more time.
>>59340559Wow a gambling mini game is luckbased? Who would have thought. It was a fun mini game you retard who cares if you don't win everytime.
>>59340656It was fun for the people who have autism
>>59338429This doesn't even make any sense whatsoever. In the first place it assumes the CPU Pokemon has 30 IVs and not some other value. More importantly, if Challenge Mode raises the levels, the stats should automatically increase to their base value alongside it. Unless you really believe they purposely went through and manually raised all Pokemon levels while artificially lowering the stats which would be a huge amount of pointless work.
>>59340668I thought it just didn’t automatically raise the levels
>>59339345Gen 5 had a lot of new stuff and didn't have empty canvases.
>>59340823>Gen 5 had a lot of new stuffso did ORAS. What's your point?
>>59340591>It’s so blatant that they planned toexcept they literally didn't
>>59340833>Heh, I purposefully ignored the second half of your statement. Checkmate
>>59340612No wonder the Kalos Defense Force has been in full swing for the past few years. Kojo might actually be able to retire from this board and start working on his fangame.
>>59341427They did tho. Theres overworld sprites in the game.
>>59341457those are for the entralink
>>59341439>there wasn't a closed building that said "game corner" on it so that means it's fine that my game doesn't have the game corner!
>>59339491>Once the source code was cracked open it was just false rumors. I.E there was always enough space for Kanto in GSC GF just did not want to do it though the part about Iwata helping make the code less shit is true.The fact that people using Disassembly were able to not only fit all of Kanto in GSC but even add in "demade" HGSS elements and also custom shit, and then load the resulting ROM onto an actual GameBoy cart blew that rumor out of the water.
>>59340595The Game Corner was from a time when Pokémon still tried to feel like "Our world, but with Pokémon." So you had grittier and realer elements like the villains being the yakuza or pretty blatant Shinto elements.
>>59338380>The real answer is that Game Freak is satisfied with not doing 101% and instead doing 70%.I wouldn't exactly say they are SATISFIED with doing 70% over 101%. It's just that clearly putting in 70% makes them just as much money than if they put in 101%, meaning that extra 31% they put in just cost them money that didnt need to be spent (at least from the bean counter's POV).
>>59338370no
