Is there a worse starter?
>>59340690she's the #1 grass starter, worst is chesnaught
>>59340690God I wish it was in a Legends game so I could throw rocks at it and its family
>>59340690Nothing will come close to the Vivziepop OC with yaoi hands
>>59340692>she's
Any starter that can get used in competitive gets useless complaints and hata lol
>cat>only 123 speedFucking fraud.
Can you stop spamming threads about this trannymon
mogged by every other fire startermogged by every other bunnymon
>>59340692Fpwp
That's a lot of bait today anon. Are you that bored? I recommend picking up a hobby of some kind
>>59340722Meowscarada is just the gen 9 Gardevoir, the trannymon is the gay bird.
>>59340690This is bait
>>59340735>>59340736>everything I disagree with is baitkill yourself furry
>>59340692fpwp
>>59340735>Meowscarada is just the gen 9 GardevoirSo a trannymon?
>>59340722Isn't this what spawned Chapjeet and his retarded copypasta about Indians that he'd bump threads out of page 10 with?
Skeletroon melty
>>59340748Gardevoir is a waifumon, I think calling everything tranny is misleading, it's just a tryhard way of saying "thing I don't like".
>>59340709This is the worst starter. I want to beat it to death.
>>59340756Oh no no no
>>59340766It's a feminine pokemon. Trannies like feminine pokemon because they desperately want to feel feminine. See picrel
>>59340766Oh hey, I made this image. I can't believe someone else saved it.
>>59340766OY VEY SHUT THIS SHOAH DOWN YOU DIRTY GOY
>>59340692>worst is chesnaughtWRONG
>>59340781This image is supposed to look cool and still looks like shit
>>59340773No you didn’t
>>59340703Floragato is great. It's not her fault Sprigatito is mediocre and Meowscagada is what it is.>Verification is not required.
>>59340794Furry pedophile
>>59340791I literally did. I took the screenshots and stitched them together into a single image in image editing software. I even had the presence of mind to remove the icon in the top right that had my first initial.
>>59340690It annoys me that this thing is everything Sceptile wants to be mechanically speaking
>>59340794I legit don't see what's special about this mid-stage, at least with Braixen I can see why they would focus more on it than Delphox.
>>59340850It's because it looks prepubescent. Everyone who makes this argument is a pedophile.
>>59340690Inciniroar
>>59340850Because she's cute
>>59340797>>59340858
>>59340858>liking short women is pedophilia, apparentlyNgmi
>>59340845Don't worry the delulu known as the rule of cool shields Sceptile from criticisms of being a shitmon.Please direct all disdain towards Unfezant and Pyroar or else you are antisemitic.
>>59340690gen 8 and 9 starters are all terrible. The mid-stages actually mog the final forms
>>59340882I cannot agree enough (except for the duck, it just gets worse with each evo).
>>59340868Yes, being attracted to 2'11" children does make you a pedophile.
>>59340874People have been complaining about Sceptile being a shitmon for a long time tho
>>59340766>>59340771Definitive proof that gender bending is, indeed, trannyshit.
>>59340850Floragato is one of the cooler midstages but the entire Meowscarada line is top tier starter so it doesn't stand out much
Bass is a better starter than Meowscarada is, he can shoot his rapid fire buster in 7 directions and dash.
>>59340690GF dropped the ball hard with these recent starters. That cat is literally just a furry wearing costume. It isnt even a fucking Pokemon, let alone a starter.Sugimori has lost it, completely washed, Nishida is probably clocking it in and enjoying her semi-retirement.
>>59340692best is Venusaurworst is Rillaboom (unless you wanna fuck Meowscarada then I'll say that's the worst just to piss you off lol)
>>59341055
>>59341055I thought a kaijufag would like the big gorilla.It's the most masculine in gen 8.
>>59341040What makes a humanoid mon acceptable or not? Not going to mention all the classic ones, you already know them.Humanoid mons not being starter material is a fair argument, but being a pokemon in general is a different argument, and that one I'm not sure I agree.
>>59341084*not being a pokemon
>>59341084There are a lot a badly wielded, bad faith argument, and outright shitposts regarding this. Not helping is, Gen 1 already broke the barrier with humanoids and went pretty far into it. And really the only “rule” is what game freak makes. If game freak decided to steal from darkstalkers like they did from dragon quest and copy paste morrigan into pokemon that would be a Pokémon The best portrayals of pokemon (in setting were humans are present) have always presented Pokémon as the “fauna” of the worldBasically if it would look out of place in an ecology book or in Pokémon Snap, it’s too humanoid .
>>59341026>top tier
>>59341124yep top tier rare instance of every stage of the line being peak
>>59341138>yep top tier rare instance of every stage of the line being peakYou can always be beat.
>>59341138>*instead of
>>59340692Chestnaught (male) worst starterChestnaught (milf) best starter
Emboar, hated on debut. Given a chance to get its own identity as a mega evolution only for it to be a bad Ogrepon-HF knockoff... except they forgot to put in actual Fire-blocking threats in the game
>>59341188>except they forgot to put in actual Fire-blocking threats in the gameEven if they were in the game. Would mood breaker even be that much of a help, emboar has moves for nearly anything that would block fire anyway
>>59341080what?
>>59341188>Heatran is MiA>Dragonite and Delphox run a train over it before it can even do anything
>>59340690Stop getting mad at children's toys you fucking loser.
>>59341116>copy paste morrigan into pokemonstop, I can only get so erect
you know meowscarada is a huge success when it makes shartroons, chapjeet, shitcordians and skeletroon seethe on a regular basis
>>59341495>Everything I don't like is gay and transIt's past your bedtime Timmy
>>59340692>she
>>59340709You already lost 4cuck
>>59341602All starter pokemon have that ratioIt's so they're harder to breed
>>59340692>87.5% Male>sheYou're a gigantic faggot.
>>59340764She will never love you again.
>>59340709I really like it idk why
>>59340709Inteleon is based
>>59340781holy motherfuckin based
>>59341613tbf OP wrote she/her
>>59340690
>>59341761
>>59341761>Woman>Greninjalol that was the most popular Pokemon with young boys during gen 6.
>>59341781Good thing I just have a contrarian incel choice for my favorite, but if you're a pokemon fan you're at least gonna like a couple from all categories there's no point of drawing lines in the sand.
>>59340690Incineroar
>>59341935Also, in what world are Typhlosion or Swampert furfag picks, they aren't anthropomorphized.
>>59341793It was also very popular with jap women. It’s the sleek and cool design that gets them
>>59341949Swampert isn’t a furfag pick, that option should be Blaziken. Typhlosion is absolutely a furfag choice though, in the same vein as Eeveelutions are.
>>59341963I don't know, its pretty much just a big badger. Its never been my pick, #gatrprideworldwide, but I just see Typhlosion like any other early gen starter.
>>59341970Well if you have to pick one of them as a furry starter it's definitely the standing furry mustelid
>>59340690Find it very cringe how they started giving starters good attack/s.art/speed spreads. Same with that gay secret agent lizard.Starters are supposed to be balanced, not meta.
>>59341055Venusaur is ass. It only stands out because Kanto hates Charizard and Blastoise is one of the worst water starters of all time, whose availability is literally the only thing going for it (being a mediocre water type still makes it the best starter of its generation)
>>59342452I guess you're right saying how the other two starters have scales/skin not fur.
>>59341970>#gatrprideworldwidegayest anon in the thread
>>59342525Respect feraligatr??? He could eat your entire team until there are just bones left.
>>59342536Look friend Feraligatr is my favorite starter but the way you said it was gay as fuck and I don’t want more faggots attached to the guy.
>>59342549:( The first time I heard the phrase was many years ago back when I was a kid, it has no bad connotations.
>>59341602>>59341613>gender distribution ratios>EVER being canonThat's why they present feminine starters as females instead of twinks and trannies like the majority of /vp/ wish.
>>59342480By that reasoning, the fact 'Zard ISN'T a cucked fire type in the same Gen instantly puts it ahead of Blastoise. Blastoise CAN be replaced handy enough with a Gyarados, can't replace 'Zard in Kanto with jack shit.
>>59342480Why is Venusaur ass?
>>59342679The problem is Kanto hates fire types so there's really not a reason to have one, even if they were good.Erika and Lorelei are the only notable opponents they do well against, Lorelei has a giant asterisk because most of her team is water anyways, and Erika is piss easy so not worth tailoring for anyways.It's good against incidental trainers, but most of those aren't worth preparing for either. Kanto hates Fire almost as much as Johto hates Grass. The fact that Charizard is considered as good as it is, while Meganium is considered utter dogshit is already shining praise for Charizard. I think Charizard might actually be the second worst starter of all time, in terms of how it matches up against the region it's in. To put things into perspective.Gen 6 Charizard has none of these problems and is without question the best of the 6 starters in that game by a massive margin regardless of whether you're playing X or Y.And the "decent fire type" rule is absolutely real in every other region.
>>59342696Erika’s team is very specially defensive in gen 1 too so blasting them with Fire-type moves feels worse than it should. You’re always better off just using Doduo or Fearow.
>>59342686Typing and moves. Same issue almost every grass type has. It struggles against random pokemon that are otherwise blink and you'll miss with almost any other pokemon, and is incredibly reliant on its Stab because it doesn't get much else.Gen 1 Venusaur has about the most fortunate spread it could ask for. Only two gym leaders shit on it, only three of the elite four shit on it, and it does great into almost everything else. It effectively has Flower Trick in gen 1. It's "okay" in that generation. Blastoise is definitely better, despite being mid as shit at everything it wants to do. It's support moves exist, but Sleep Powder is late as shit, and leech seed stalling the AI, while technically effective, is about the saddest thing you can spend your time on this earth doing. You didn't beat the game, you beat yourself. Gen 3 Venusaur is honestly competing with Charizard despite how much Kanto hates Charizard, because of how bad Venusaur is. At LEAST Charizard blows through all the random bugs and birds shit trainers have that take Venusaur multiple turns, after its done being raped by the first quarter of the game. Venusaur IS one of the better grass starters though. And that's the sad part. Weedcat shits on it, Chestnaught is... bad but probably better in a vacuum, but then every other grass starter is super super fucking bad. Chikorita is, well, Chikorita. Sceptile has noodle arms and Grovyle is unironically clicking Pursuit for its best option for a solid third of the game. Turtwig is slow enough that its bulk doesn't matter, it is getting statused and debuffed to oblivion and getting two shot by everything. Serperior is rancid, the owl does literally nothing, and Grookey is so bad it got Extreme Killer Arceus as a unique moveset option, and it's only "good" in OU, which doesn't even matter because your ass has Overgrow.
>>59340690I hate the faggot grass cat so much it's unreal
>>59340690Bros...The palfags can't keep getting away with it
>>59342696also remember that Charizard only had 85 special in Gen 1. For reference Meganium's special attack is 82 while Typhlosion's is 109. In terms of offense Gen 1 Charizard is closer Meganium than Typhlosion Also another thing about early gens in general but especially Gen 1 is that if you a special type not named psychic, getting anything other than STAB was a luxury so type match ups mattered more.>>59342716grass is just not a good offensive type. never has been. The meme about Chikorite being uniquely bad is exacerbated by the gym types in Johto but it says something that Sceptile is barely belter despite half of Hoenn being water
>>59342741Mega Venusaur is godly and destroys Azumarril
>>59342741>getting anything other than STAB was a luxuryTo be fair Charizard gets Earthquake. I'm not sure you should actually use it on Charizard, but it does get it. People meme on the 6 year old special, Charizard with Flamethrower, Fire Blast, Fire Spin, and Strength, for coverage, but that actually isn't far from the best Charizard can really do. You aren't leaning into Swords Dance for ingame, and if you don't use Earthquake on it, Flamethrower + Slash is probably genuinely the best it can do. Teach it Fly if you're playing Yellow, I guess?
>>59342738HOLY SEXXXXXXXXXXXX
>>59342738They're trying too hard, you can tell they just want to make goonslop.
>>59342480>"fag can't tell we're choosing favorite pokémon based on design and character and not gameplay viability" episode 2527338
>>59342738Better than any Gen 9 Pokemon
>>59342738Isn't Meowscarada supposed to be a magician as well? lol they didn't even change the theming for this one.
>>59342840Seems like everyone else is talking about viabilitySorry your frog isn't very good. You can still like him though
>>59342738Based
>>59342849This one is definitely a bit more "clown" than weedcat. And it's a rabbit, not a cat. But ye
>>59342855What are you talking about. 95% of this thread is people talking about wanting to fuck animals.
>>59342864Look you can go fuck venusaur on your own time, I'd much rather talk about how Grovyle's best move for most of its life is Pursuit
>>59342738.........I love it
>>59342738The pink spider is better than this garbage
>>59341613I mean this one is a female so I don't see how that number matters
>>59340690Meowscarada is fine. I don't think starters can possibly get any worse than Venusaur, Decidueye, Charizard, or Greninja.
>>59343035Decidueye had a cool concept, but man it sucks
>>59341055>KANTOOOOOOOOoVenasur is an ugly faggot just like (you).
>>59343057Venusaur is a solid grass starter. Torterra is more interesting, but Venusaur isn't bad.
>>59342855Except Venusaur is good, in KANTOOOO play thoughts its basically the best starter since Zard sucks and Blast has to compete with like 50 other water types. And in PvP its been ranged from decent to damn good due to reaping the benefits of KANTOOOOOOOOOOO shilling.
>>59343057>>59343063The issue with the kanto starters is that the lines all have duds>CharizardWhole line sucks. Wow, orange fire lizard/dragon! So creative>VenusaurBulbasaur is very cute, and Venusaur is solid, but Ivysaur suffers from the classic "2nd evo is just 1st but bigger" syndrome>BlastoiseBest final stage, but 1st and 2nd stages are just blue turtles
>>59342753>Flamethrower + Slash is probably genuinely the best it can doBecause it is. I ran through Red recently with it and it was painfully mediocre until it learned Slash. And even then, it was still merely “okay”.
>>59343035Meowscaradafags are so retarded kek
>>59342738Kino
>>59343044Why?
>>59343035>Venusaur, DecidueyeSur->Charizard, or Greninjawat
>>59343227This, but the opposite
>>59342858They also released that egyptian cat pal recently that everyone seems to think looks like Meowscarada with its model shape?
>>59342741>In terms of offense Gen 1 Charizard is closer Meganium than TyphlosionREEEEEEEEEEEEE HOW DARE YOU DRAGE DOWN THE SANCTIFIED CHARIZARDRINO FROM KANNNNNNNNTOOOOOOOOOOO DOWN TO MEGANIUM'S LEVEL REEEEEEEEEEEEEFUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU REEEEEEEEEEEEE
the cat won and /vp/ is still seething years later
>>59344460Why did nobody seethe when Greninja won and only seethed when the rabbit and cat won
>>59343067>basically the best starterNoBlastoise is the best starter by a small margin in gen 1, and a large margin in gen 3.Venusaur is much closer to Charizard in gen 3, since both have pretty bad problems.
>>59344704Because the cat reminds them of their mothers
>>59344704In Cinderace's case, because merkins don't get football the way the rest of the world gets it and in Meow's case because it's a girl meant for women and straight men, instead of Greninja aimed squarely at little boys and a magnet for half the gay men of the world (because some fags prefer baradaddies like chesnaught) by proxy.
>>59344460this
>>59344704Because no one actually cared about greninja, it was just a shill
>>59345872>no one actually cared about GreninjaWeak bait anon
>>59344460I see more people seethe at Greninja, Cinderace, Decidueye and Charizard more
>>59344704because they both arent cool and they both look like faggot mons for faggots to be faggoty about
>>59344704Rule of CoolGreninja is awesomethe Rabbit and Cat suck
>>59345995Cunderace is cool to me, especially his signature move
>>59346000Cinderace*
>>59346000to YOU poster on /vp/ most likely a furry, generally he isnt seen as cool by normies. same with the cat. they were made with a particular audience in mind.
Meowscarada looks like Charizard if you compare it to the two bottom shitters of startersDelshit and Empoopeon
>>59346017I know a lot of people that think he's cool, not everyone sees it as furbait cum for brains
>>59346023im sure you do, poster of /vp/
>>59346019Normal Delphox was a disappointment at the time yea, but I like Mega Delphox.Empoleon is good.So you have shit taste.
>>59343227Greninja and Charizard are both ugly as fuck and both overshilled. Simple as.
>>59346035Oh no no no Greniggabros wtf is thaaat
>>59346026I dont have shit taste, you have shit taste for thinking Piplup turning into an erect penis is good.Mega Delphox is what the actual design should have been, the best designed final starter is Feraligatr and Swampert kys
>the best designed final starters are two failed shitters
>>59346048Feraligatr suffers from shit 3d model syndrome. Swampert is cool though.
>>59346068They're the best if you have a high IQ, keep consuming your cindershit and braxien porn buddy>>59346071Fucking bullshit that it hasnt been fixed after 10+ years, make him a badass alligator again FUCK
>>59346092It’s not popular enough to be fixed unfortunately. At least you can use the cool design in GSC.
>>59346092This looks like crap
>>59346048>erect penis?I never saw that and I still don't see it, is this a self report? Need to come out of the closet?>>59346071>shit 3d model syndromeThere's nothing to fix. Look at his model and his gen 3 artwork and tell me what's wrong.
>>59346099Popularity isnt relevant when it comes to remodeling and tweaking. Both Persian and Primeape got one.They also redid the Johto legends and beasts, likely leftovers from the scrapped legends concept. Its only a matter of time till they give glow-ups to most starter models like Kanto
>>59340714who is the sixth hidden one in this vid?
>>59346071Feraligatr never is going to look good in 3d
>>59346092Oh, if you're a contrarian faggot bitch, you mean? Because >>59346099 explains both why it has a "shitty" 3D model AND why they made its mega a callback to its base stage. Not a paedo either, only fully evolved forms interest me because the big dirty secret of pokémon that can evolve is their themes, intents and aims only become fully realised in their final form, regardless WHAT three-stager up put to the test. And much like in real life, why would I want an immature partner at my side?
>>59346109Let me guess, you like Charizard X?>>59346127>>59346137It can get a good 3D model. Hes literally a big blue alligator, it needs edges and angularity not perfect smoothness. I don't give a fuck about furry fantasies, you do you buddy. But also fuck you because Totodile is awesome and its mega is cool in concept, too bad it looks like fucking SHIT in 3D!
>>59346159damn look at his moobies squishing against his neck ha ha fatty fat fat
>>59346176This reply made me suicidal, ty!
>>59346111I think the official Johto art has a longer torso and less chub. The stadium model is also kinda ass, but the head juts out more.>>59346127I also kinda think this.
>>59346127>Feraligatr never is going to look goodShould have stopped there
>>59346159They could have just made a "good" model from the get-go, much less could have "fixed" it at any stage between XY and now.
>>59346226I thnink gatorfags legit don't even understand the design of the pokemon. They thought the Nidoking-like vibe in GSC was gospel rather than some janky accident by the limitations + the sprite artists not doing a faithful reproduction.
Fersligatr in unitehttps://youtu.be/M01I5tceiCw
>>59346236kek what a landwhale
>>59346227the XY models are not future proof, a huge chunk of them are from PokePark. They are already showing their age with the awful rigging and just how some models were created like fucking Nidoking.Pokemon models should never be stagnate for over 10+ years lmfao, Charizard finally looks badass again. They can do it so many more and expecting higher quality models that more faithfully represent the mon is warranted, Feraligatr feels like such a simple fix when they have many talented artists there.
>>59346236They gave it dbz eyes?
>>59346232Honestly the misprint was a better result than the actual design. Though I don’t think DPPt’s design revision is bad.
>>59346226>>59346232What is your favorite final stage starters, just wondering if you guys actually have standards.The 2004 redesign is so fucking boring in comparison to Nidoking in RBY
You people act like Nidoking isn’t a lardass.
>>59346265>What is your favorite final stage starters Something that doesn't look morbidly obese like fagaligatr lol
>>59346273Look at an alligator irl, Feraligatr used to be just stocky. Now its morbidly obese, fuck you >>59346272He is a cool lardass, bring back his edge
rubbing my gatr's big fat jiggly belly
>>59346242>Charizard finally looks badass againYeah, because of the texture they applied to it. My point remains.
>>59346276>Look at an alligator irl, Looks thinner than fagaligatr
>>59346279Didn’t they make its arms longer?
>>59346276>>59346281fat
>>59346282No, I don't think they have fundamentally changed the models. They have changed the textures they've applied since leaving 3DS, even within Gens, but don't think they have (or the dextards would have been hit with it as evidence the models weren't supposed to be anything but models of pokémon and not contractual guarantees of being added each game and gen).
>>59346287In hindsight why did they add the facultative quadruped thing if it never actually does it?
>>59346287>>59346299Looks thinner than fagaligatr
>>59346299gamefreak sucks at showcasing what mons do, you could make an entire list of unova mons with gimmicks that never actually get shown outside of the anime or one random spin-off like the golurk cannon in pokepark
>>59346301Definitely not for the second one.
>>59346279>>59346296They completely redid his face, wings, arms, legs, and removed his shit ass pot belly. They did the exact same with Venusaur. Has nothing to do with giving SV-tier textures.>>59346281>>59346301Fuck off mammal elitist, learn about your seniors before commenting like a tard
>>59346310>Fuck off mammal elitistSeething scalie hands typed this
>>59346310The difference between the designs is funny, pretty much no neck, two toes, four fingers.
>>59346316I like Infernape and Chesnaught, cope and suck those mammary glands buddy
>Thread started with Meowscarada ragebaiting>Takes a turn with reptile coping/vp/ works in mysterious ways.
>>59346327>Posts a morbidly obese shitmon lol yeah alright fatfag
>>59346336>Sees cartoon dragon, thinks of fat fetishists What a self report holy fuck, you gonna tell me your favorite starter now ?
>>59346349>>Sees cartoon dragon A morbidly obese cartoon dragon
>>59346327i would love to suck on chesnaught titties
>>59346350I will still respect your opinion, anon.
>>59346362However i don't respect morbidly obese animals
>>59346365Then why do you respect Feraligatr
>>59346408i don't
>>59346332Is anyone actually coping about Feraligatr being ugly? Like it just doesn’t look good outside of a few instances in the anime.
>this image is now 12 years oldlol
>>59346370You may as well posted Shinx wearing a dress because this gets you a 3-day ban from 4chan btw.
>>59346463I have to be honest, Feraligatr's model looks better than the sprites. The sprites always made its body look lumpy and disfigured, not muscular.
>>59346463If you look at the gen 2 artwork it's obvious that the sprite got his proportions wrong.Feraligatr didn't change, his sprite just happened to be janky every generation up to gen 4.
>>59346472Looks better animated, desu
>>59346480>Looks better anim-ACK
>>59346480That's pretty much every Pokemon as long the animators don't cheap out like they did with the majority of the Masters 8.
>>59346483Honestly it still does even if it’s being fodderized
>>59346483
>>59346483Nothing embarassing about losing to a legendary Mewtwo ripoff
>>59343035Nothing can get worse than Plat's Empoleon as a starter. The mon itself is fine, but the game fucking hates him.
>>59346605What do you mean?
>>59346635NTA but my guess is that >There are few good fire typesSo Infernape shines>There are few good Grass or Ground typesSo Torterra has a niche - Roserade and Garchomp are good, but few others compare>There are many good water typesFloatzel, Gyrados, Milotic, etc.I really don't think it matters though. You could win a nuzlocke with any, and without nuzlocke rules, any pokemon game is trivially easy.
>>59346678Yeah but in that case I’d argue SM/USUM’s Rowlet is worse
>>59340690>>59340692>>59341609>>59342674>not 100% female>no canon boobsMeowscarada is just yet another tranny starter JEJYou Will Never Be 100% Female>>59340771Yep. If it has even 0.01% chance of being male, yet has a feminine design, it's trannybait.
>>59346687>Nidoqueen is hot>Look up lore>Canonically sterileWhy is fucking pokémon lore so fucking garbage all the time. Yeah, the 100% female pokémon turns sterile once it evolves from its literal baby first evolution stage. Fucking pedophile pokémon. I'm fucking livid about this shit even without looking at it from a fap bait perspective. You're telling me the mama queen pokémon can't reproduce? It's supposed to have reproduced back when it was a baby. Fuck off. If I'm world dictator I'm making them change this to the first stages being sterile and the next two being fertile. I fucking hate gamefreak.
>>59346635Just off the top of my head:He'd be good against dragon types buuuuut theres only 1 dangerous dragon type in the playthrough, Garchomp, a ground/dragon that can outspeed and one shot empoleon with ease. He's good for the ice gym, buuut you still have to be careful that abomasnow or pilloswine don't get to hit you because they both have super effective coverage on you. Meanwhile Infernape can just solo the entire gym easily. There's only like 5 fire mons in the game and all of them outspeed it and can hit strong neutral STABs. Then there's infernape who outspeeds and gets super efective STABS. So you get a water starter that can't even solo fire trainer fights. He resist flying and can get ice beam, but the strongest flying type in the game knows close combat and outspeeds you. Also, there's multiple flying/water lines where ice beam won't be useful.He resists psychic, but the only important psychic fight is the elite 4 one where 3 out of the 5 pokemon outspeed and have super effective coverage and another is bronzong, who also has 2x coverage on you and you won't be able to one shot with surf unless very overleveled.He's useless for the fighting and plant gyms. He's good against the more average ground types, but litterally any decent water type is, and there's many. And so on. There's just pretty much no point in the playthrough where Empoleon makes you feel like you made the correct starter choice, while Infernape is a god tier choice because of the scarcity of fire mons and Torterra, while not as dominant, still has a much easier time and moments where it shines. It's like they took the way Gen1's early game treats Charmander and they extended it to the entire game.>>59346678>I really don't think it matters though. You could win a nuzlocke with any, and without nuzlocke rules, any pokemon game is trivially easy.You can beat the game with anything. Doesn't mean that you can't feel that some mons clearly have an easier time than others.
>>59346687She has a capelet covering her tits. That's hotter than if they just drew some nipple-less mound
>>59341179>Chestnaught You're too much of a retarded monkey to be allowed around either of them.
>>59346755I can't be assed to remember the correct spelling of Feraligator, and I will keep spelling pokémon names incorrectly. You're just going to have to accept that.
>>59346731>off-model slopYou lose, tranny
>>59346721Also, his learset is just absolute ass compared to what the others get. He's a steel type special attacker yet the only steel move he learns naturally is FUCKING METAL CLAW. His strongest water STABS are either Surf which you have to teach with the HM or Hydro pump with is 80% acc and learns at level 59. Meanwhile torterra gets fucking Earthquate at level 32 and infernape gets Close Combat and Fire Blitz naturally at 41 and 57 and can get flamethrower through TM overheat, fire blast and focus blast through TMs.I have no clue why did they even make Empoleon into a starter if they were going to spit at him every chance they get like that. My best guess was that they overcompensated after how dominant Swampert was for playthroughs in the previous gen.
>>59346122Either Mawile, Cinderace, or Meloetta
>>59346769Cinderace is a dude in a rabbit suit
>>59346766It's a cosplay of a Kancolle character to show how the capelet covers the tits retard
>>59346772Male "tits" (gyno) are still male.Dilate.
>>59346768(me again. Final part of the rant)And the worst part is that they give him fucking swords dance even though his attack after 1 swords dance is only 50% higher than his special attack and his speed is so slow that your oponent will probably move twice between the time you pick swords dance and the time you get to attack in the next turn.And it's not like they at least give him some strong physical moves to make that trouble worth it, no, no..When it comes to stabs, all he gets is steel wing which at +2 is only like 40% stronger than a regular Flash Cannon, and that's if it hits, waterfall which, again, will only be around 30% stronger than a regular Surf and Aqua Jet which is pretty good as just a priority move but not sweeping/OHKO material.For non-stabs best he gets is Drill Peck at level 52, some 70bp stuff and, Return and, try not to laugh, earthquake... which after one swords dance will hit about as hard as a regular one by Torterra... who learns it naturally right after evolving... With swords dance and his torrent ability, he has this very interesting premise of a special attacker than can turn into a physical attack beast or very strong Surf attacker in the right circumstances, but those circumstances are too unrealistic to be viable and he would have been much better if that attack stat was used for something else. Once you hit the postgame you can do a lot more strategizing with him and turn him into quite a decent mon for some team comps, but when it comes to how it makes you feel during the playthrough, I think he has to be for sure among the worst if not the worst starter, at least in the original gen 4 games.
>>59340850>I legit don't see what's special about this mid-stageBrat
>>59341781This only works if you know how the 3rd evolution looks though. Oshawott was definitely popular with girls when it came out.
>>59346853>26.9lbsImagine
>>59342849Meowscarada is a street performer magician aka not real magic, hence why the gyspy is a Dark and not Psychic
>>59346854Yeah, they learned their lesson after gen 4 (last gen where every final evo was masculine)
>>59342832What is your opinion on PANDA_GIRL?
>>59346853bdsm cat
>>59346853God I love its design so much more than Meowscarada
>>59340690the most popular fakemon got plagiarized into the most popular starter
>>59347248lol it's not even close
>>59347248This shit is why we havent gotten a new eeveelution
>>59346862I've never even seen this before, is this from palworld?
>>59348675Yes
Bro suddenly bumped all the Meowscarada threads, this is so repetitive.
>>59349433Cry about it son.
>>59349433I made this thread, and even I find it annoying
>>59349433Chapjeet will forever be a raped animal thoughbeit.Not even reality shifting can undo that.
