Are you a fan of starter trios where TPCI clearly only cares about one member of the line and the others are a afterthought by comparison?
>>59351599I would have included Gen 4 here instead of Gen 8
I'm sick of them all evolving into bipedal jobmons
>>59351599Favored in terms of what?
>>59351613The "only give a shit about one starter thing" only happened from Gen 6 onward. Before then entire trios were shilled (1,3, 4), or left to rot to sabotage out of spite (2,5). Every trio after had one stater that was the one you were supposed to be while the others were just fodder with one actively being made to flop.
>>59351626You know what it is: Marketing.
TPCi only do what they're told to by TPC. And TPC only do what Game Freak tell them to do.So anon, why can you not handle the fact Game Freak don't give a fuck for what you like, want or want to see shilled to fuck and back?
>>59351635I’d only really want them to be more mechanically conscious of them. I couldn’t give less of a shit about which one sells more plush toys.
>>59351641>Pokemon only do what they're told to by Pokemon.No way.
>>59351648Those usually go hand in hand, every intended shill starter is amazing mechanically
>>59351632Anon, due to how disgustingly popular piplup was, empoleon was not in fact "shilled" as much as you think, seeing as you didn't exist back then to actually see reality for yourself. And Swampert was similarly ignored to fuck during Gen 3, with the toy advert not evolving the sidekick's marshtomp while they evolved Scepetile and Blaziken (never mind using Blaziken as the tease for the new Gen at the end of Gen 2 in it).
>>59351652...and there's Decidueye as an exception.
>>59351650No.>marketing is told what to do by the creatorsnot>the marketing chooses what it wants to do itselfThere's only one "Pocket Monsters Series" controller. And they do what the fuck they want, then tell their marketing arm EXACTLY how they want it presented. So I repeat: why can you not handle the fact Game Freak don't give a fuck for what you like, want or want to see shilled to fuck and back?
>>59351652Greninja is really not that good.
>>59351652Then why rillaboom is the one winning worlds instead?
>>59351659I'm drawing a blank why spergs think it was supposed to be a shillmon. Shillmon don't in fact get regionals.
>>59351668key word being usually, Cinderace was the clear shill starter, Rillaboom was a fluke. >>59351671you don't give those stats so something intended to be a shillmon.
>>59351663>>marketing is told what to do by the creatorsYes and? What's the point of saying this? >And they do what the fuck they want, then tell their marketing arm EXACTLY how they want it presented. So I repeat: why can you not handle the fact Game Freak don't give a fuck for what you like, want or want to see shilled to fuck and back?That's exactly what OP was saying. Again, what's the point of saying this?
>>59351632>left to rot to sabotage out of spiteI can see you are definitely mentally stable and not at the verge of tears
>>59351678Pointing out where it's Game Freak's desire for only one to be anointed shillmon. To be created with the aim of having the lion's share of the pokémon audience using it. So I ask once again and wonder why you keep dodging the question: why can you not handle the fact Game Freak don't give a fuck for what you like, want or want to see shilled to fuck and back? Because you clearly have an issue with "starter trios where only one member of the line" is important to the machine, which makes me think you're the tertiary concern - always picking the drek they intend the contrarian faggots animalfuckers and spergbags to gravitate to because they can't, won't or don't have the ability to pick what the casual masses do.The big dirty secret is they don't like wasting money on shit that's going to outright be ignored (that's why skeleface stands up, can't have it a useless quad shitmon, because no kid will care about it). Which is why they stopped making true quadrupeds and started making faculative bipeds of all types.
>>59351599>Are you a fan of starter trios where TPCI clearly only cares about one member of the line and the others are a afterthought by comparison?Excluding Johto, was that ever NOT the case? At least in terms of favoritism there's always one that stood out in the anime.
>>59351695>was that ever NOT the case?HoennSinnohUnova(even in infamy)
>>59351664It was the best of its trio by far even after the protean and battle bond nerfs. it only feel behind when the other two got megas, and its mega was only made underwhelming because game freak was threatened by it overshadowing the Big ZARD in popularity too much.
>>59351613Gen 8 is Scorbunny/Cinderace it 100% needs to be here, none of the Gen 4 starters have one member stand out than the others, they're all evenly marketed
>>59351668Lmfaooo casuals don't give a fuck about competetive pokemon
>>59351704>>59351698BlazikenPiplup
>>59351599It's clear that GF got a new marketing team or something around late gen 5 - early gen 6.They're not afraid of using nostalgia OR marketing the newer popular mons, even if they're part of a trio or duo... For a non-starter example there's Ceruledge which is way more popular than Armorouge, it debuted in episode 1 of the Horizons anime in a cool fight scene against a Charizard.
>>59351704Infernape clears and it's not even funny.Fuck, just look how the anime treated it vs Torterra jobbing from it evolved till it got Oaked.
>>59351694Anon, you're just making up assumptions about me and then, expect me to play into it and answer your dumb question? The real question here is why are so you defensive about what I said?
>>59351716Yes, it was called "taking the localisation of Pokémon off NoA, giving it to TPCi and organising a coherent worldwide marketing strategy for each game and Gen so every territory is on the same page".
>>59351704Gen 4 starterbros.........we got mogged by Lucario and Garchomp....
>>59351709Sceptile gets as much shilling as Blaziken, with Swampert only second behind. All Sinnoh starters get shilled evenly, look at Infernape and Torterra.
>>59351704Its cool that Ceruledge got so much love in Gen 9 instead of just the starters, shame about Armarouge though
>>59351724Which Hoenn starter appeared in the anime before their generation even started?Which Hoenn starter was first to be given a mega?
>>59351724>thinking they treated Infernape and Torterra evenlyOh wait, you're not allowed to say anything about Gen 4 that isn't mindless praise anymore, I forgot
>>59351730MY FUARKING HEROES.... and cinderace
>>59351731Which Hoenn starter did Ash had throughout the anime and defeated a mythical pokemon in the next series?Which Hoenn starter was the most popular character in the most popular spin-off game?
>>59351718I didn't read what you said, beyond your feigned ignorance horseshit lad, sorry not sorry. I don't give a fuck what starter they push of a Gen, I played in the corner with my Phox waifu while every kid, casual, normaltard AND /vp/ sperg came all over a frog and proved just how able they are at making the world dance and it didn't bother me Primarina's popularity among people didn't translate to promotion by the marketing department, beyond what they'd planned to add for her.Mind, I've never not consciously picked the irredemable shitter, my default pick's fire and the two times I didn't pick the fire type. was when they'd made a waifumon that was actually more than a pretty face and was a fucking pocket nuke to run the region with. So I don't really understand the point of the thread in itself. Are people that genuinely invested in how initial picks are presented to kids? When most of them here have only justified their aims and intents in the past?
>>59351731Hoeen is like KANTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO in the Game Freak and TPC loves all of the starters and as a results all the starters get shilled. But the CHARIZARD/Blaziken gets extra
>>59351730Cinderace and Lucario MY FUARKIN HEROES
>>59351741May was a co-protagonist who fully evolved her TorchicMystery Dungeon is not even the most popular spin-off series, they just have the fans that won't shut the fuck up about it the most. Stadium was more popular by far
I hate it but it is sadly what works.
>>59351747Lucario and the other ugly bitch
>>59351749People have to cry less about the fact that GF is promoting what sells.If you like pears, then stay liking pears, but don't yell at fruit vendors to stop selling bananas.
>>59351704This place loves to talk themselves into thinking Cinderace is a failed shillmon, they'll be thinking this for the next 5 Gens at this point since its still getting marketed.
>>59351748Ash had a rival that use Mega Sceptile. ORAS anime trailer depicted the male lead with a Treecko as his ace. Same in MastersEX, btw.
>>59351771Why does it fucking matter that Brendan has a Treecko. He's not more important than May
>>59351768Nonono Cinderace is bad because humanoid. My favorite starter you ask? Why, it's Blaziken!
>>59351764>GF is promoting what sells.Nah famicom. You have any evidence Pokemon wouldn't sell as well with less anthro mons?Because the games and merch would sell regardless.
imagine a little kid with a favorite pokemon but gamefreak told him to fuck off just because it's not marketable enough
>>59351779>Why does it fucking matter that Brendan has a Treecko.He's the intended main character. He has one starter while she has the other two, aka the leftovers. May is a side character in everything she's in.
>>59351791In gen 1 could you find as much Mr Mime merch compared to Charmander?
>>59351771>>59351792They probably went with Brendan holding Treecko and May holding Torchic as a nod to the anime.
>>59351792>>59351810He also had one in the Generations episode.
>>59351804I remember in Gen 4 when they heavily marketed Burmy and Lumineon dude
>>59351703Greninja has almost same winnings amount as Chesnaught and Chesnaught is ass. Seriously, it’s not that good and it’s mega is a total flop.>>59351677>fluke>giving it fucking Grassy Terrain was a flukeCome the fuck on.
>>59351668The game devs are not being told by TPC to only make the shillmons good and the rest of the mons trash. They are free to ruin the balance of competitive as long as kids are having fun raising Scorbunny in the single player campaign. Most kids won't care about comp because they'll just get curb stomped by some try hard with no life
>>59351768Gen 11 for sure they'll stop shilling him KEK
Piplup and Rowlet got shilled as their first stage is more marketable
>>59351671>shillmons don't get regionalsyou gotta be fucking retarded to think this, 2/10 bait just for getting me to reply
>>59351671There is no way Slowpoke, Arcanine, and Raichu aren’t shillmon. They get merch out the ass don’t they?
>>59352231Where’s CHARIZARD’s regional, then or any other Pokémon that matters like Lucario or Garchomp
>>59352243Everything from KANTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO is inherently a Shillmon. They’re still flops compared to the Kanto Pokémon that got mega
>>59352255I agree anon, Fearow was my go to Pokemon to use in Legen- I mean Scarlet and Vio- wait.Uhhhhh Sword and Sh- FUCK!Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon on the 3DS, 9 years ago
>>59352255Slowbro got a mega too tho
>>59352258it'll get an evo in gen 10
>>59352243he'll move the goalposts like he does when you point out zoroark is unambiguously a shillmon, or that goodra like all pseudos is a shillmon, or that all starters are shillmons and three of the most popular ones have regionals. he doesn't care that he's obviously wrong, he's just ragebaiting for replies.
>>59351632>Torterra was shilledAbsolute delusion. One starter rising above the rest is not something new, but has always been the norm. The ones where this isn't the case, and I'd argue Gen III is the only contender, are the exception.
>>59352499>all starters are shillmons
>>59352499>>59353362Really just depends on where you draw the line. All starters and legendaries and the like get more attention fro GF than the average Pokémon, but I wouldn't say they are all shillmons. For me the line is closer to the 0.1%(roughly 10) of the most pushed Pokémon, not 1%(roughly 100).
>>59351599i always ditch the starter upon catching my actual first pokemon, and i love that it makes majority of the pokebrownspic fanbase SEETHEthey have a strange autism with starters, or "partners" as they've now begun to call themas if they've never seen other characters in the franchise start out with other monsit's so weird to see, but also incredibly satisfyingto think that thousands of brown manlets will bawl their eyes out and cry over some level 5 shitmon that'll rot forever in one of my boxesah, such satisfaction
>>59352004CinderBased
>>59351599>Kanto: Charizard>Johto: none, all of them are jobbers>Hoenn: Blaziken>Sinnoh: Piplup (or Infernape)>Unova: idk>Kalos: Greninja>Alola: Rowlet>Galar: Cinderace>Paldea: picrel
>>59351683Got'em
>>59351654Never even got Piplup's appeal. Oshawott is much cuter.
>>59351730MY FUARKING HEROES... and Scyther, Snorlax, Lucario, Charizard, and Greninja.
>>59351768It's all Inceleoncucks who refuse to accept the superiority of Cindercute and Rillachad.
>>59351671>Shillmon don't in fact get regiona->Meowth>Arcanine>Raichu>Legendary Birds>Zoroark>Decidueye
>>59353375only starters with megas (except the toilet), Bara Tiger, and maybe the Sinnoh starters are shillmons
>>59354539>Raichu
>>59354550Yes, Raichu, which got a regional form and two megas. Just because Pikachu is a bigger shillmon doesn't mean Raichu isn't one too.
>>59351599The more you force something onto someone the less that someone is likely to choose that thing.
