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What causes this?
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>>59352000
both are dogshit designs
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>>59352000
1. black is a cool color (except when it's the color of someone's skin)
2. this meme is intentionally reductive and dense, far more was changed than just the coloration
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>>59352000
It's like a black luxury car, it just werks
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>>59352023
it barely changed
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>>59352000
Why'd they give this thing a beard and built-in swords? I'm sick of all these jobmons...
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>dislike samurott for not looking enough like a big dewott
>h-samurott is considered better even though it looks even less like dewott
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Don't care, buff dommy mommy Hisuian Samurott and cuddly BBW Unovan Samurott.
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>>59352045
>He plays the magical monster game for realistic fauna rather than magical monsters
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>>59352000
>top is a ZU shitmon, literally worse than pre Mega Sol Meganium
>Bottom rapes OU with its sword splinters
Gee I wonder why one is more popular than the other,
real mystery
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>>59352023
It's also navy, not black.
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>>59352023
>except when it's the color of someone's skin
Kek based
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>>59352064
>ZU shitmon
Snorlax is too but people are not ready for that conversation yet.
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>>59352159
Snorlax was a monster in general 1 OU. There’s just been power creep
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>>59352023
>far more
Not really.
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>>59352159
>Neckbeards caring about competitive rankings.
Snorlax is goated. Screw the rankings.
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>>59352064
>worse than pre Mega Sol Meganium
Meganium without it's megastone is unranked in ZU. At least vanilla Samurott has a niche there

https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/sv-zu-viability-rankings.3747001/
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>>59352237
>Meganium without it's megastone is unranked in ZU
And its mega evolution exposed all the posers who claim that they "liked" Meganium the entire time ever since it was revealed.
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>>59352022
based
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>>59352426
pretty sure most people mocked Meganium’s mechanical shittiness not its design
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>>59352457
>not its design
I did
Shit looks like a dog stuck in a cone covering the entire thing that makes a long neck dinosaur unique
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>>59352053
In some ways it's more like Dewott though. H-sam even got a dual wield animation.
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>>59352000
nobody would give a single shit about h.samurott if it didn't have ceaseless edge
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someone post the downie redesign yawnfag likes for some indescribable reason
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>>59352000
>his gaze is better
>better colors and red patterns that decorate the seashells
>the shape of the seashells is better
>slightly thinner body
>double type instead of a bland monotype
Base Samurott is very mid; the Hisuian version gives him what he needed to make him cool (without being an exceptional design, let's not exaggerate). Even so, in both cases, he still suffers from being a biped wielding blades.
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>>59352000
>hated thing
>hated thing (hoenn dex)
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>>59352000
>>59352022
>>59352026

The original is dogshit. Hisuian looks great.

> its not fat like the OG.
> the whiskers/beard is so much better and seems less stiff
> its helmet is asymmetrical in a cool way
> its glaring at you like you have to die
> and yes, the colour scheme is vastly better.

the original look plain & derpy. new one does not
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>>59352935
Still quadruped, therefore still a bad design.
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>>59352945
NTA but his smaller lower body makes it seem more reasonable for him to stand and attack with swords. The thing before is that he had a posture that seemed locked into being a quadrupede.
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>>59352945
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>>59352961
>samurott shill hates pokemon
checks out
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>>59352953
Even gf seems to think so looking at the difference in their animations
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>>59352968
What exactly defines a "pokemon"?
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>>59352935
The hisuian is just the same pokemon with different shell
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>>59352000
https://youtu.be/DaOgZwk9rN8?si=1wAPN5dZorJJVbqP
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>>59352457
>mechanical shittiness
Game Freak never did pay attention to how their games worked.
They're flooded with poor game design.
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>>59353268
kind of but you left out the most important differences (less fat, looks less stupid in art/movement, dark-type with strong move)
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>A regional variant isn't drastically different
Yeah, they're not mega evolutions, they're cousins/variations. Why are people surprised lol
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>>59353427
>>A regional variant isn't drastically different
Alolan raichu has a lot of differences compared to kantonian raichu tho?
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>>59353433
Its literally just Raichu riding on its tail with psychic powers
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>>59353450
>Its literally just Raichu riding on its tail with psychic powers
With cuter eyes
Different ears
Paws with actual fingers
Different looking tail
Smoother body all around
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>>59352000
Black do be cool tho.
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>>59353453
>Paws with actual fingers
Purely aesthetic, doesn't do anything different from the original

>With cuter eyes
>Smoother body all around
Every regional changes eyes or body mass

>Different ears
>Different looking tail
Regionals have new typings so their most unique features get altered as result. Rapidash having non-fire mane, Sandslash's ice spines, Farfetch’d wielding heavier leeks, etc
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>>59353600
>Purely aesthetic, doesn't do anything different from the original
it's still a difference. Kantonian raichu doesn't have fingers.
>Every regional changes eyes or body mass
Not all regional forms change this much alolan ninetales is almost a recolor at best
>Regionals have new typings so their most unique features get altered as result.
Therefore it's a change got it
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>>59353610
>Therefore it's a change got it
Changed to better suit their new typing yes.
If Magmar had a rock type form, would its body still be covered in flames or actual rocks?
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>>59353651
Base magmar wasn't covered in flames to begin with
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>>59352000
Color is an important part of a design
Armarouge for example is way less popular than his counterpart, and I would bet it's in large part because its colors are garish. It's way too bold and plastic looking, especially the yellow.
I'm listening to a >Sonic song right now so that makes me think as well, Sonic's arms were made to be skin color to help them stand out from their body on a 2D sprite. An example of color placement being important for definition and balance.
There's whole rules around design palettes and color theories and whatnot about appealing colors. Yeah the dark blue with red accents looks a little more cohesive, especially with the red eyes and nose already existing.

Posing can also help, since in the official art there, the poor thing looks like it can barely stand. The limbs just look weird. In >>59352023 it has a kind of "prouder" stance which helps with the impression.

That said I don't really like samurott anyway lol
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Bump
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>>59352023
Yeah. It also has dark red highlights, the shell armor has pointy edges, and the horn is bent.
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>>59352000
Orginal samurott was like a beta concept design that snuck into the games and they upgraded it a few gens later
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>>59352022
better than skibidi desu
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>>59356345
TRUKE
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>>59356380
I don't get choosing 2 Johtomons, having asorted starters like LA made more sense.
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it's a better design
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to be honest the hisuian forms look better as megas than any of the actual megas do even
all 3 would be beloved as mega forms
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>>59356399
H.Typhlosion doesn't make sense as a mega and even H. Decidueye is a stretch since it throws away the archer thing instead of doubling down on it like a mega would.
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>>59356380
It’s crazy how hard Emboar and Feraligatr drag this down.
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>>59356402
Mega Decidueye would just be a first-stage humiliation ritual like Feraligatr
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>>59352945
>Nooo a regional form is similar to the original!
Why are anthrotards so dumb?
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>>59352000
Samurot is shit not because of coloration, but because the progression is cute otter, otter, unidentifiable seal thing.
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>>59356497
In terms of timeline Samurott was drawn first.
The recurring traits are the samurai elements and using shells as a weapon, so there's that.
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>>59356402
H ty would make perfect sense, it's literally just making typhlosion a ghost on top of its normal self. And h decid does double down on being an archer wtf are you talking about
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>>59356392
Woah, she's fierce!
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>>59352022
Samurot is fine, it just doen't fit in with the rest of its evo line
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>>59352022
There's only one design in two color palettes
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do modern samurott trainers read up on history and see how edgy samurott could be



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