What's the point in making them? GF got our hopes high only to let us down....
Autists need to stop speculating shit for 2000 hours of their life before a game comes out, getting over-invested results in unfulfilled expectations.Just wait for the game to come out THEN talk about the finished product. Some of those (mostly the ancient ones) are still cool designs.
>>59353002It was suppose to reference explorers misinterpreting things they saw while they were documenting discoveries.
>>59353002Suicune look similar
GF, and frankly japan as a whole, genuinely do not understand that presenting something unfinished IMPLIES that it WILL be finished. I don't know what it is, but they genuinely treat teasers and concepts like this as equally as fully-realised as if they were numbered mons all the same. Not the same category, but the same value. So many pieces of jap media will mention something offhand and never elaborate on it or bring it up again and the japs are always perplexed at westerners wanting it to be fully fleshed out.The japs see this and say "Oh, neat, it was an inaccurate drawing in the end! How cool!"
>>59353002>couldve gotten badges chimeras>DUDE>DINOSAURS>LMAOGen 9 was a mistake
>>59353313I certainly don't think every stone has to be turned and every mystery unraveled. The problem here is that we did get the Paradox Suicune and Verizion shortly afterwards, and they were underwhelming. I pray to god we never see the Original Dragon.
>>59353002>>59353313>>59353324You illiterate retards refuse to read and then proceed to blame others for your very own retardation kek you do deserve to eat shit
>>59353347>the sketches depicting the muskedeers and the beasts, and the sole paradoxes released post-launch being the muskedeers and the beasts, is a mere coincidence in-universeYou can barely blame me for my brain refusing to save any space for such garbage writing and world-building.
>>59353369>It's garbage because i said so! You lost retard cope and seethe and learn to read
>>59353374>mere coincidence is good writing
>>59353377>Retard faggot fell for le "Accurate reconstruction" meme i bet you got mad just because the real spino looks nothing like the jurassic park 3 interpretation too kek
>>59353347>calling others illiterate when you couldn't finish a single paragraph you were replying to
>>59353382imagine claiming someone who wants more designs is mad that we have both jp3 spino AND an accurate spino
>>59353385>He says while falling for an in-universe fan interpretation >>59353387Then don't get mad when the fan interpretation looks nothing like the real thing lol see you when aliens arrive to earth and look nothing like tiny green men
>>59353382Let me repeat myself since you just throw out every buzzword and strawman you can think of>mere coincidence is good writing
>>59353393>Fan interpretation must be exact 1 to 1 to the real thing lol lmao even
>>59353390>fan interpretationthis is some insane copium. You're aware we're discussing decisions made by a company on what to put into a game and not the lore of the game, right?
>>59353436>this is some insane copium. it's what the game says here >>59353347
>>59353396>fan interpretationYou lack reading comprehension. That would require there to be something to interpret. As it stands, the researchers chose to "interpret" Paradox beasts and muskedeers seemingly at random, and next you know, those specific paradox counterparts appear. The chance of that happening is something like 0.1%.
you never geting cool designs pokemon is just memes , yokai watch won
>>59353522No one knows what that crap is.
>>59353509>You lack reading comprehension. Said the retard who really thought the "imagined" pokemon was going to be real lmao
>>59353509>100%*
>>59353587The point is that they are real, it just happens to be zero correlation between the sketches and the actual pokémon. It is merely a coincidence that the pokémon the researchers based their sketches on and the the pokémon the few remaining paradoxes were related to are one and the same. >>59353599Please take preschool math if you think picking out the muskedeers and beasts from all pokémon randomly is 100%.
>>59353444>it's what the game says here>>59353436>You're aware we're discussing decisions made by a company on what to put into a game and not the lore of the game, right?
>>59353606>The point is that they are real They aren't These chimeras don't exist It's just a fanart some dude made
>>59353613>Anon really thought the imagined pokemon that was explicitly stated to not be real actually existed
>>59353614You're completely missing the point. Both the sketches and the real things are based on the same Pokémon, but the game does not give any explanation for such a huge coincidence.
>>59353622>the sketches and the real things are based on the same Pokémon They aren't Walking wake is not a chimera it's just a sauropod version of suicune no design features of both entei and suicune were added on walking wake
>>59353622they are dreams made real by terapagos
>>59353626>there is a sketch mashing suicune, entei, and raikou together>then the three remaining past paradoxes are based on suicune, entei, and raikouThe point is that they're the same pokémon, for seemingly no reason.
>>59353630>The point is that they're the same pokémon They quite literally aren't tho? the chimera is a completely different creature
>>59353620Like the paradox pokemon's whole gimmick?>It resembles a certain Pokémon introduced in a paranormal magazine, described as the offspring of a Hydreigon that fell in love with a robot.>This creature resembles a mysterious Pokémon that, according to a paranormal magazine, has lived since ancient times.etccome on you KNOW you're being dishonest, stop with this bullshit "trolling", it's not funny, it just makes you seem stupid.
>>59353633The pokemon they are based on are the same anon, that's the point.
i bet you guys watch the predictions for starters evolutions and then get mad the real thing looks nothing like the fanart
>>59353626>it's just a sauropod version of suicuneyou're a fucking retard. You don't even know the difference between a sauropod and a theropod.
>>59353002It really does suck when gamefreak does something cool and retards who can't imagine an apple in their head don't get it so they complain about it for the rest of their lives.
>>59353646Keep down that goalpost buddy it ain't going nowhere
>>59353628If that were true, the fusions in the sketches would have appeared in the game. It wasn't a power of imagination/dream. The appearance of the two trios is a return to reality, which has nothing to do with imagination.
>>59353658they did appear doe
>>59353657NTA, just calling you out on being a retard for not knowing basic dinosaur groups, I don't even know what you're actually discussing.
>>59353657it doesn't have to move when you aren't even attempting to kick the ball you brainless faggot
>>59353667You're not even trying to defend your claims anymore kek
>>59353666Neither does he. He seemed to have a problem with me saying that it is lame that the Pokemon used as the basis for the sketches and the Pokémon used as the basis for the remaining paradoxes were the same simply due to sheer coincidence. But does not seem actually to try to offer any counterpoints whatsoever. But yes, it is very fun that he makes fun of Jurassic park fans and then fails at basic dino names two posts later. Genuine retard.
>>59353639i can also make up a pokemon based on the same thing that won't make it real though >>59353638These are just pokemon from the past/future bro
>>59353662No, I've never seen the two Pokémon in my picture in the wild or in the possession of a trainer.
>>59353687Play the game maybe????
>>59353687>I've never seen the two Pokémon in my picture in the wild or in the possession of a trainer. Are you trying to say that the imagined creature explicitly stated to not be real does in fact NOT appear in any capacity whatsoever?
>>59353685>same thing that won't make it real thoughWhich isn't what I am taking an issue with, it's that their matching is merely a very unlikely coincidence, they could have offered any other explanation instead of "dreams made real", but there simply is none.
>>59353690None of these are the chimera of the book tho?
>>59353700yes it are doe???
>>59353705Nah they're three different individuals and not the chimera of the book
>>59353707You need to get your eyes checked. It's the same monster.
>>59353713Nah these are robot virizion terrakion and cobalion not a combination of all three fused together into a single creature
>>59353719Hmm nope. Same monster.
>>59353690Don't worry, I've finished the game several times. The Pokémon you're showing me aren't the ones presented in the two books.
>>59353722Nah i don't think so
>>59353725Doesn't matter what you think they are in the game.
>>59353727They quite literally aren't
>>59353728They quite literally are and i just posted proof that they are.
>>59353730Nah you posted three different creatures and not the chimera of the book
>>59353734It's the same creature thougheverer.
>>59353735A chimera of multiple creatures is not the same as three different individuals
>>59353736Yes it is.
>>59353739Wrong
>Creature stated to be not real is in fact not real >Anon gets so mad about it he starts shitposting with his sharty friends Kek they assraped you
>>59353740I know you are.
>>59353002>GF got our hopes high only to let us down....Sounds like Scarlet and Violet in general
>>59353746>No u! i accept your concession anon
>>59353748Yeah i concessed that they are the same creature, glad you accepted that!
>>59353747>Getting let down just because the creature stated to not exist does in fact not exist You have no one but yourself to blame >>59353752Nah they're not the same and never will
>>59353754They are doe you already concessed that.
>>59353747>having hope in Gen 9 in gneralftfy
>>59353761 Nah
>>59353764Yeah looks like you did tough luck pal.
>>59353767Let me think about it... Nahhh
Tell me he's trolling, right? This retard doesn't seriously think three dinosaurs are the same as a fusion of regular Raikou, Suicune, and Entei?
>>59353770Yah looks like you did.>>59353771It's the same picture. The monsters are in the game. Theres nothing hard about this anon.
The sketches were obviously put in the game as teasers for the real things since they were scrapped from the base game. That's the whole reason they were included: to get people to speculate on what the real things would actually look like. To act like there is no relation between them is completely retarded.
>>59353772>Yah looks like you did.Nahh
>>59353771>Tell me he's trolling, right? Ofcourse he is lol he's getting desperate
>>59353775Now you noticed your big mistake and started to just spam the same line. Sad!
>gamefreak makes design>puts it in the game>doesn't let you use it>autist is surprised people got mad at this after the starmobiles, and after eternamax eternatus, and after dexit, and after nihilego lusamine, and after eternal flower floette, and after pokestar studios, and after the original dragon, and and....everyone hates this EVERY TIME THEY PULL IT you retard
>>59353779>Now you noticed i noticed that your mom is hella fat and the paradox chimeras don't exist
It's kinda crazy how theres quite literally proof that the paradoxes are in the game, and STILL theres people saying that the monsters from the book aren't in the game. Like you know, Google exists right?
>>59353784Yeah here comes the sharty ad hominems... The final cope.
not sure why they even let you report posts for anything if breaking the rules leads to no recourse
>Paradoxes don't existUhh.. huh?
>>59353790We don't sign our posts here
>>59353792Sauropod Suicune!
>>59353785>>59353792Why it looks nothing like the one in the game?
What's next, Pokemon don't exist?
>>59353802Anon... those pictures.... are ........ from the ....... game....
i don't think i've ever seen someone getting this mad just because the creature canonically stated to not exist does in fact NOT exist
>>59353807It does in fact, exist. Did you miss the raids?
>>59353810The chimera of the book doesn't appear anywhere
>>59353815Yes it does, scroll up.
>>59353815Yes it does, that's just fanart. Were you expecting a 1-to-1?
>>59353817it doesn't at all i only see different pokemon with similarities but not the exact same thing 1 to 1
>>59353820It does in all of it's glory.
>>59353821Nah it doesn't >>59353818Not the same thing at all
>>59353822>left: fanfiction>right: fiction the fanfiction is based on
>>59353824Yes it does.
>>59353828Nah
>>59353822>This entity is described as not existing; it's fanfictionI love that you're so terminally online that you had to write fanfiction instead of just fiction or fictitious. Fanfiction implies that the source material is also fictitious and not real.
>>59353840If you really missed the raids i can trade them for you.
I finally found the beast shown in scarlet book; it looks much more like it. It's the same thing!
>>59353846i missed the part where the chimera actually appears because it doesn't
>>59353854That's regular Entei, but I can get the confusion, normal Pokémon and their paradox counterparts can sometimes look very similar since they share a common origin.
>>59353857It does you just missed it.
>>59353863Nah i didn't
>>59353865You just said you did.
>>59353871The chimeras don't exist outside the book though
>someone sinking to koju's level to shitpost back at himCan't say he doesn't deserve it.
>>59353879They do though
>>59353857That's normal, it doesn't exist. Iron Leaves, Iron Crown and Iron Boulder are not this imaginary creature
>>59353885Source: Ass
>>59353891asscarlet and violet yeah
>>59353895*Scarlet and violet Learn to write next time buddy
>>59353899Yeah that's the game where the monsters appear.
>>59353901... But only in the book yes
>>59353902In the Pokedex yeah when you capture them.
>>59353904it doesn't have a pokedex page though
>>59353907Yes it does
>>59353907>he didn't catch them allBanned
>>59353002That isn't even the first time they pulled that shit, you should know better by now.
>>59353911Nah it doesn't and you don't have a proof
>>59353916Theres proof right here in this very thread.
>>59353912i honestly can't tell if you're even pretending to be retarded anymore
>>59353912>both play Pokémon ScarletUnderstood.
>>59353899He wrote very well. He plays an unofficial, altered version called Pokémon Asscarlet, where the creature from the book is available in the game. Meanwhile, we play Pokémon Scarlet, the official game where we have Gourging Fire, Walking Wake, Raging Bolt, Entei, Suicune, and Raikou, but not the fictional fusion from the book.
>>59353919i don't see it at all
>>59353924You need to open your eyes.
>>59353923>>59353912>deleting your own post to repost itEmbarrassing display.
>>59353927You need to open your mouth for my cock
>>59353929Sorry not into blind gays.
>>59353933Yet you behave like a faggot
>>59353936We don't sign our posts here.
>>59353933Rude, you shouldn't just fuck the gays with good eyesight.
>>59353939Parroting is admission of defeat
>>59353942Stop doing it then.
>>59353944Make me
>>59353807>>59353781
>>59353945*makes you*
>>59353950Eh i still won't stop lol
>>59353952Just stopped you though.
>>59353947They told you the creature wasn't real and you still fell for it kek you honestly deserved it
>>59353956please read >>59353781
>>59353955i won't though
>>59353961I know you wont parrot again, i stopped you.
>>59353957All i read is a cope of a retard who fell for the immaginary creature kek
>>59353965Nah no one can stop me
>>59353781I feel like a lot of those are fairly different situations. I for one am very glad the Pokéstar creatures never became canon catchable pokémon.
>>59353967Just did.
>>59353969NOOOOOOOOOO THEY NEED TO BE REAL CATCHABLE POKEMON ACCORDING TO MY AUTISTIC FANFICTION AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA >>59353973Then why i'm still doing it?
>>59353977You aren't doing it, because i stopped you.
>>59353966>fell forif you read that post you'll see there's no confusion involved.
>>59353980Nah
>>59353969tons of people did want them though, I feel you would readily admit.
>>59353982Glad you aren't parroting anymore.
>>59353977Only the ESLest here at /vp/
>>59353988Glad you aren't parroting anymore.
>>59353989Sharties never send their best i'm afraid.
>>59353984Some of them sure, like the cloud and mecha tyranitar. Mostly I just remember people being mad some unique type combinations at the time were wasted on them. I don't think I've ever seen anyone claim they wish the black belt was a real Pokémon though.
It's kinda crazy how much power i have over people here. I say a word and they stop spamming.
>>59353997man it would have been so kino if it was just a pokemon that looked just like a humanI really hope we get some of them as fictional "where ideals become true and truths become ideal" meme mons based on the pokestar studios mons if we ever go back to unova
What the fuck is this thread
>>59354005Some sharty faggot mad the creature stated to not be real is in fact not real
>>59353781The fallacious examples he uses. In all your examples, none are described as imaginary drawings that don't exist and are never encountered.Whether it's Eternamax, Hyperogue Floette, Lusamine Mother Beast, Starmobiles, all the other junk from Studio Pokestar... We encounter them all physically and they truly exist; their existence is never questioned.
>>59354005Sharties claiming that Paradoxes are not in the game. It's quite hilarious.
>>59354014>all the other junk from Studio Pokestar... We encounter them all physically and they truly exist; their existence is never questioned.
>>59354012>>59354018Ah, it's a sharty raid, got it
>>59354014They are designs in the game that you can't useyou are being dishonest on purpose. This is against the rules here btw
>>59354094I never said we could use them. You're putting words in my mouth, then accusing me of being dishonest.
>>59354106You're adding extra context that is irrelevant. Everyone is mad they can't use the design in question, and that it isn't a pokemon. That's what we mean, and you're being dishonest in trying to pretend it's not.
>post-dexit Pokemon fanbase be like:
>>59353002The Paradox Beast had Suicune's beauty, with Raikou's ferocity and Entei's massive build. It would have been possibly the best Pokémon design.The Paradox Sword looked even worse than the ones we got
So did the faggot get banned or just get tiredwe can count this as a win for reason and normalcy, right?
>>59354596>we can count this as a win for reason and normalcy, right?Bro's lost the game the moment he started spamming after being blown the fuck out multiple times
>>59353781>>59354014I think these are thinking about it the wrong way.Every time GF has some cool thing that it seems like we can fight...>fused Lusamine, robo-Groudon, etcpeople complain it's a copout and it could have been more than a generic battle.But if you CAN fight something...>pokestar, Eternamax, etcpeople complain how it's not available and it should be.There is zero winning either way on that argument for GF. Damned if do, damned if don't. And that argument is completely separate from the thread topic on the chimera concept vs what paradoxes we did get.
>>59354625People want to use the designs. You're thinking "People just want more than what they're given no matter what it is" but it actually is just converging on "we want every design to be usable like every other design instead of being gated behind a battle or cutscene or book in-game"it's a single point that is being approached instead of an endless staircase being walked down.
>>59354625I think there is a fair argument to be had here depending on you stance on a couple of things. “In pokemon you always get to use the things you battle against” wasn’t strictly true from the start with the ghosts, but that’s also the only exception until Gen V.On the other hand one has to consider that the identity of Pokemon, and promoting these things from only boss monsters or existing in-lore to side-by-side with every other Pokemon might not sit right with people who have a more strict definition of what a Pokemon can and cannot be.
>>59354596Normalcy won, you can catch the monsters from the book.
>>59354111>>59354625Except that's not the point I'm making. I never said I was for or against the unplayability of the examples mentioned, nor whether the players were happy or not.In my post, I simply explain that the drawing in the book doesn't exist, because it's an artist's invention. This is different from an entity like Eternamax, which isn't fictional in the Pokémon universe.
>>59354977Pokestar enemies are fictional in-universe and you mention them in the same breathe as Eternamax. If that was the distinction you wanted to make you did a horrible job at it.
>>59354979I forgot about Pokestar, mistakes can happen to anyone (I was too lazy to play Pokestar). But after some research, it doesn't refute what I said at all. This simply means that the opponents of Pokestar don't belong to the same category as Eternamax or Lusamine Mother Beast. Therefore, since the artwork in the book is similar to the content of Pokestar—that is, fictional—it doesn't actually exist in the Pokémon universe.So it comes from Props, which are special effects, editing for movies. What you see in this image doesn't exist in reality
>>59354964stop being disingenuous
>>59354977>>59355007I understood this >>59354625 point and I'm saying it's making a distinction where one doesn't exist. Nobody really cares if any given design is CANONICALLY fictional or factual, it's simply a design, and people want them all to be usable.also I think I'm starting to get confused about who's who itt
>>59355007to reiterate I'm saying "people have an issue with group c (which is composed of groups a and b)" and you're saying "but groups a and b are different" if I'm understanding our discussion accuratelyit's refreshing to have a normal person to discuss this with instead of the other sperg
>>59355797How am i being that when you can literally catch them in the game?
>>59355814Because you're pretending that the design that is present in the sketchbook is the same as the released pokemon that it was teasing because it was CANONICALLY based on them (or whatever other cope you have), whereas everyone else understands that we're talking about what the DEVELOPERS and DESIGNERS put together and released as a product, which are clearly, visually, different designs between the sketchbook and the paradox mons.
>>59355901It's quite literally the same.
>Oh an unknown wild Pokemon (Walking-Wake)>I will use my creativity to invent a different and new creature from what I see, and I specify that it does not exist because it comes from my imagination.It cannot be the same by definition
>Oh, [FANFIC]
>>59355997In Scarlet, it's stated that he based his sketch on the large and ferocious Pokémon that live in Area Zero, so the creature he invented is based on what he saw. Seeing a Scream Tail wouldn't lead him to create a sketch resembling the three paradox beasts, so he was inspired by those three because he reproduced some of their physical features, and that's fitting because which are precisely the largest Pokémon that live in the crater.
>>59355923>have 4 pictures>clearly, visibly different between all 4>claim that 1 of those pictures is the same as the other 3
>>59356078Theres no difference. It's clearly the same monster.
>>59356104
>>59356131Yeah same picture.
>>59356131So this other idiot thinks Iron Leave is the same Pokémon as Iron Crown, which are themselves the same Pokémon as Iron Boulder—even though they all have different Pokédex entries because they’re different creatures. And on top of that, the skretch is the same for all three? He’s got holes in his brain.
>>59356139I'm really surprised he hasn't been hit with a 3 day for trolling
>>59356151Maybe because theres no trolling. They are catchable in the game.
>>59353525Rotom-Dex surely does :)
>>59356174Pretty sure Rotom has more porn pictures than Goykai watch has players
>90% of the thread is just "nuh-uh!" and "yuh-uh!"Whatever happened to "don't feed the trolls"?
>>59356157They? The existing Paradox Pokemon? Yes. Iron Leaves, Iron Boulder, Iron Crown, Raging Bolt, Walking Wake, and Gouging fire exist and are catchable in-game. However, the two designs in the book that do not correspond to any known pokemon are NOT catchable and do not exist as actual pokemon, as they are seemingly entirely fictional in-setting. Fans do not like this decision, as the two fictional designs - chimeras of the Swords of Justice and the Legendary Beasts - were desired as catchable pokemon.
>>59356263Accurate
>>59356263Yes they are catchable like i said. No idea why you keep repeating that.
