Saw spergs arguing about this on Xitter and was curious about /vp/'s take on it
>>59356959>SV being better than any game at anythingcome on now
>>59356959SwSh, no question.It actually has an artstyle.SwSh had outlines around Pokémon and characters that matched the style of the original art, the past games, and the anime, and which also helped their models stand out regardless of the lighting, effects, or background. The shading within the models in SwSh is also kept much closer to the high-contrast style of the hand-drawn official art, with a standard shade, a darker shade for shadowed parts, and a brighter shade for shiny parts that's used much more sparingly. Again, this simplified and heightened contrast helps the models stand out, and the fact that it matches the franchise's overall art style better helps your brain recognize it quicker.Compare this to SV, where they relied on an inadequate lighting engine to generate all of the shadows that highlighted the models' features and details for them. Without an outline, without stronger contrast, and with far-fewer pre-rendered shadows than SwSh used, Pokémon and characters in SV look vague and muddy and poorly-detailed at the best of times. Often, models and environments in SV are plagued with lighting inconsistencies or glitches that SwSh's better lighting and pre-rendered shadows would have prevented.Usually, we view pre-rendered solutions like the ones that SwSh used as "cheap," while automatically praising any lighting or shadow effects that are generated in real-time as being inherently superior.But SwSh showed why those solutions still have their place, and SV's failues showed why your game has to absolutely fucking NAIL its lighting engine if you're going to rely on it for everything.SV also had much worse textures, detail, and variety in its environment. And worse cinematography.You could try to excuse all of this by pointing out how much bigger SV's world is... except that this poor level of detail and fidelity persists even in most of SV's important, highlighted, story-critical areas.
>>59357000That's not nessicary true. SV is the best Pokemon game at sucking dick>>59357018This. One million times this.
>>59356959SS has the best art style in the series.
>>59356959SWSH is better looking than SV but that's a very low bar
>>59357031That's still Red and Blue.
>>59357042You better be talking about the promo art and not the actual in-game assests.Though coincidentally, I do belive that the RBY and GSC arcs of the Ashime had the best art style for that show.
>>59357018>Compare this to SV, where they relied on an inadequate lighting engine to generate all of the shadows that highlighted the models' features and details for them. Without an outline, without stronger contrast, and with far-fewer pre-rendered shadows than SwSh used, Pokémon and characters in SV look vague and muddy and poorly-detailed at the best of times.Oh hey I've seen this exact episode beforeWhy do devs keep doing this
>>59357049>Why do devs keep doing thisAnon pointer it out in the post you're replying to. Live lighting is more technically impressive.
>>59357054only if they can actually pull it off welland most devs can'tnot just in Pokémon games, but across the industry
>>59357068It's not about whether or not it's more impressive in practice, only that it's more impressive in theory. They NEED to have le impressive graphics in order to sell the game. That's what the tards in marketing think anyway.
>>59356959SV afterwards doesn't even look like pokemon anymore
>>59357125They nailed the character design for the MC's in SwSh......sigh it just keeps looking worse
>>59357031The only thing Kojo is right aboutSovl
Base SV is hideous but the DLC mogs SwSh pretty hard. Best Pokemon has looked.
>>59356959>Pokémon and characters' texturesS/V>backgroundsS/S
>>59356959SwSh easily. It still looks bad, but it's a better artstyle overall.>>59357000SVs story blows SwSh out of the fucking water. I would even say it beats all other mainline games in that aspect.
>>59356959swsh had better everythingit was still shit
>>59356959Neither have a good enough anything to be worth arguing aboutThey both suck horribly