https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Q6FKBLon84
>>59358778Look, your first thread got no views. Don't try this again, old man
>>59358778Isn't this the faggot that tried to ruin Chuggaconroy's image with his friend's allegations or something?
>has to cheat>yet I got 50 wins in a row on SWSH's battle tower with a mono rock teamKWAB
>>59358810What do you mean?
>>59358802Hi Werster, you're done for
>>59358778He's had a long history of cheating and covered it up. Nonetheless his sycophantic community will slurp up anything he says blindly and proceed to post "and that's why he's the goat" in every single video.
>>59358778Is he now resorting to paying people for viral marketing? No one cares about his autistic speedruns anymore.
>>59358810Chuggaa sucks tooMost Youtubers do
>>59358778Dont know why people are countershilling this. I doubted it at first, but then i saw the video was posted four hours ago and contains damning statistical proof. Do people just want to believe in someone popular?
>>59358778Exquisite autism on display
>>59358893I can understand being simps to a vtuber with a cute model and voice, but people really do this kind of stuff for neckbeards? bleh
>>59358778It's joever.
1. Who cares, this might have mattered a decade ago when he wasn't a 300 veiw literal who2. Cheating doesn't matter anymore after dream got caught and rewarded for it3. Speedrunners are legitimately afraid of PvP
>>59359040He basically is a literal who now. He makes up categories only for himself to "compete" in and flaunts them as if they mean anything. None of his Factory accomplishments are noteworthy and Pokemon speedrunning is a meme.
>>59358778Sublime analysis>>59358966ThisYou can't beat auts of this quality
>>59358778Sorry if I missed something but it seems like he's talking about cheating at a winstreak and not a speedrun? Werster has a video showcasing that he can get ultra consistent wins in the Emerald Factory using RNG manipulation. That 212 win streak is obviously done with RNG manip.Did this guy waste dozens of hours in a LaTeX autism spiral to tell us that
>>59359056I only watched like 40% of the video but there's a part that seems to imply that RNG manipulation isn't accepted.So the controversial part is trying to pass it as legit when it wasn't legit.
>>59359056The actual Factory runners don't use RNG manip. Werster is pretending like the 212 run didn't use it, then uses the run to pretend like he's knowledgeable about how to play Factory legit.
>>59359066>>59359064So he didn't even cheat in actual speed runsFucking zoomers man
>>59359079>pokemon speedrunsgay boomer shit
>>59359079Trying to cheat a world record is still notable.
>>59359086I agree they're gay but they are what this guy is known for
>>59359079The vid is a factory runner preserving the integrity of the category. Exposing Werster as dishonest is just the case study.
>>59359087I don't think he cared about actually getting WR, I think it's an ego thing. He knows he sucks compared to top players so he hid behind the real WR to lay low and keep larping as """the best"""
>be werster >have 15 minutes of fame>marry some woman>that cheats on you with your objectively uglier brother>entire life explodes >never recovers>30 years old doing this shitrip...
>>59359098>it's not an ego thing, it's just an ego thingSo same thing but worded differently.
>>59359098yeah it's like he's more known for speedrunning but look he got 2nd place in factory which everyone's talking about!!
>>59359103>that cheats on you with your objectively uglier brotherBrother cheating with his wife? Oof, that's a serious lack of control.
>>59359056>Werster has a video showcasing that he can get ultra consistent wins in the Emerald Factory using RNG manipulationThe problem is he didn't prove it, he did this all offline, and the in-game timer and speed at which he plays offline doesn't match.
I remember seeing that manip video that everyone called him a retard for and was wondering if this guy would ever argue against it. Turns out he just spent a six months auditing his entire upload history to destroy his career instead.
>>59359079Why are you being retardedHe has cheated in speedruns in the past and the video is closely accusing him of faking a factory record he gloats about while simultaneously publicly mocking those with streaks better than his It’s childish behavior being proven
>>59359056This is differentHe claims the 212 is not manipulated
>>59359079He's had a history of cheating in Sonic and Pokemon speedruns. The 1:55 Yellow run is suspected of cheating and he privated it on Youtube. It's all in the video.
>>59359156Underaged b&No one even claims hes racist when he was getting triple teamed by negros at gdq
>>59358810Chugga's image was ruined when he started an episode with tRaNs RiGhTs
>>59359156This would be a fair point if that’s what happened anon I’ll give you thatBut can we talk about reality
>>59358827https://x.com/wersterlobe/status/1750636240779792526
werster's discord is having a melty
>>59359175Is it a bunch of damage control or people going I trusted you!!!Either way the funniest part of this is the Werster is just gonna no sell it(I say this as a fan of him who believe he save scummed the 212)
You can tell from the faggot's voice that he's actually mad that Werster said the n word at GDQ and is constantly thinking about it.
>>59359175not rly, just one guy joining and posting slurs and everyone else feeding the troll
>>59359191Hi werster
>>59359156Turns out most people don't care if you cheat, or if they do they don't know what to look for to prove it, that's why the mega autists are the ones to finally find the poof to expose you.The ironic part is the one and only red flag that all the research is based on is his video where he manip'd the tower to try and discredit everyone else with real achievements, he literally left the murder weapon on the scene all because of his inflated ego made him start beef with other record holders for some reason.
>>59359180Lots of damage control
>>59359191This.
>>59359191>>59359275pack it up werster you're hosed
>>59359220werster's character was always susall his claims about his success in competitive felt like bullshit after watching how he played in the factory
>>59359191Sounds like you're the one constantly thinking about it
There is one guy is this measly thread of 50 posts constantly crying about LGBTQ LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>59359307Your boy is cooked
>>59359307No one cares about your ADHD werster
>>59358778Think he'll drop out of ASM after this bombshell?
>>59359307>Too much ADHD to pay attention to one thing for an hourYou could've at least said you're not interested, anon.
>>59359313Well, do a shorter version and I'm watching it. What else do you want me to do?Do you expect anyone watching a movie about some autist crying 'wolf' about some other autist playing pokemon?
>>59359307I'll save you the trouble, it's circumstantial evidence that amounts to >t-there's no way he could do it that fast unless he was really good!
>>59359328Why did you record yourself using external tools in an HGSS run, then private the video? I thought only shitters used tools during runs, Werster.
>>59359328Yeah and then hard data showing he is in fact not that good
>>59359350>hard dataSoft cirmcumstantial data
>>59359350>retardHard data shows Werster is more likely to make mistakes on stream which is extremely common. The fact that the entire argument against him boils down to this is laughable and the motive couldn't be more blatant when the guy who came out of nowhere with a previously thought impossible achievement draws zero suspicion. Werster has a target on his back and has for years.
>>5935936193% win rate. The best players don't get an A-.
>>59359328Yep…..which he’s not! Seems like you DO have listening comprehension skills
>>59359342Why are you calling everyone 'Werster' who's slighty against you?Also, I'm still waiting for my summery of your bullshittery of a movie.
>>59359372>Yep…..which he’s not!Proof? Actual proof, I mean not just crying that he's a meanie who says swears.
>>59359366werster has been streaming for almost 15 years now and gets "unlucky" (plays like shit) all the timethen he goes offline and suddenly gets a 1 in a trillion 200+ streak with his skill first try and playing fast lol
Im not watching 90 minutes of this shitSummarize it, give me the key equations, events and the thesisUse grok idc
>>59359389go read the paper for yourself
>>59359376No one mentioned swearing you're just a fanboy who keeps bringing up an unrelated moment from over a decade ago which is very telling
>>59359394I don't care enough, so if im ever asked if he cheated I'd say idk lol
>>59359394I had Gemini read it and it said it's bullshit full of shit math
>>59359394wait, you didn't even watch the whole thing yourself? nigger, what the fuck?
>>59359399What? Do you think Werster only swore 10 years ago or something?
People who have no played Battle Factory for long streaks simply have no fucking idea the difference between 100 wins and 200 it's exponentially harderNot just this, but to get such a streak, conveniently after someone posted a good record with proof, with just BARELY enough in game time to do it first try, and all while bad mouthing a community you're posting this record againstnot suspicious at all
>>59359394Reading is even worse for Werster defenders
>>59359307tl;dr>Different guy gets super high battle streak in battle factory or whatever, way beyond any previous streaks>Soon after Werster just shows up on stream with super high battle streak in battle factory (or whatever), way beyond previous streaks but behind the different guy>Circumstance A is his skill isn't expected to be high enough for that kind of streak, his previous records were nowhere remotely close>Circumstance B is the ingame timer doesn't fully line up, he would have had to be playing exceedingly quickly, much more so than even his fastest times playing on stream>Circumstance C is he has a history of odd behavior, including cheating under an aliasBasically no hard proof, but there's a good chance he was savescumming or some such. He never submitted it as a public streak however, so it would've just been to give himself credentials.
>>59359423if he never submitted it to anything then who the fuck cares?i dont get it
TL;DRDespite Werster not being a perfect player on stream, offline he got a win streak that, based off the in game time, was essentially perfect play At most it was probably just save scummingDid he do it to gloatDid he do it as a vigilante to show the submission of runs needs more scrutinywho knows
The stadium QC shit is a more interesting discussion to me
>>59359429Because he is very public about the run and openly mocked the actual world record holders and saying their playing ability was bad, meanwhile he boasts a cheated streakIt's a moral thing, not about the integrity of a leaderboard or anything
>>59359406People who don't understand statistics to begin with will see nothing wrong and a 1 in a trillion chance as "well it's not 0.">>59359429He larps with it and pretends it's legit to gain credibility in the Factory scene. It's very poor taste.
>>59359423>no hard evidence>didn't even submit itOk, thank you, Anon, for saving me my precious time.Fuck 'em niggers and trans-niggers.
>>59359429The people who play for factory records that werster has weird beef with for some reason. The video he made about how you can just rng manip every battle so records are meaningless to shit on them ironically included the sole red flag that all of this is based on.
>>59359434100% an ego thingthat's just how he is
I'd like to see a Yellow or Stadium 2 expert pick apart the Quick Claw thing. That's the most damning thing in the video if there's foul play.
>>59359442>obsessed lmao
>>59359435yeah id actually like to know toothe screenshot in the video was from a routing VOD though and not a speedrun, does it appear in a speedrun? Even still would it even matter
>>59359455Agreed, this was more standing up for the Factory community than it was a full interrogation. Presenter stayed pretty well in his lane.Need someone as dedicated from the other niches Werster is present in to do something similar.
>>59359439>>59359440So essentially the Battle Factory autists took his banter VERY seriously.
>>59359456>cannot into greentext>mentally retarded sperg having tunnel vision about some faggot on the internet not behaving nice to mental retards who cut off their dicks>tries to make fun of other niggers on the internetNigger, please.
>>59359468What's your issue with LRXC anyway, Werster? Why do you ban people from your chat whenever he's mentioned?
magie, underrated youtuber
>>59359429Mostly to bring his existing speedrunning records into question.I like Werster but it's always been obvious he's kind of a fag so I could see him cheating for his ego. I don't really care though since I just watch the funny clips he posts.
>>59359471you are upset
>>59359468Is it banter when you talk about how using tools during a run is cheating for years, then accidentally show yourself using tools during a speedrun and burying the evidence?
>mfw I've been subbed to werster for 3 consecutive years in a row. How can I get a refund?
>>59359468It isn't really bants but openly mocking and flaunting something fakeThe point wasn't really he has stolen valor or something, it wasn't submitted>>59359471Try to keep your mental illness to a minimum and discuss pokemon related topics here, sir
>>59359480Nah, not worth it. It's just you nigger faggots being obnoxious again. Which is tiring.
>>59359477I've always been a sucker for hyperautism like him and pannen. I certainly don't watch speedrun fags like werster to have found out about this otherwise.
>guy streams something >doesn't submit it but uploads it to his account Are we serious right now? If he cheated speedruns prove it.
>>59359492Werster, it's okay, it's gonna be alright - your brother will still fuck your ex-wife
Hey werster, why are you deleting comments from the Hardest World Record video?
>>59359497Uhh it's "statistically unlikely", isn't that good enough for you? No I won't say outright if he cheated!
>>59359501Why are you calling me 'Werster' again? Just because I'm not following your bitch ass agenda?
>>59359505agenda? LMAO what is this politics? you can't even watch a youtube video and process information properly without getting ass blasted about libs
>>59359497He doesn't upload or submit because it will fall apart under scrutiny as seen in the video that is the topic of this thread
>>59359497Don't treat cheated runs as legit if you're not submitting them. Simple as.
>>59359504well yes why would someone say they outright did if they dont have 100% proof but just 99% proof?
>>59359468>it was just a prank broRetard
>>59359519doesn't even have 1% proof
>>59359512You faggot didn't even watch it yourself. I asked you for a summery yet you didn't even tried. Also you fucking retard kept on calling me 'Werster' which is kind of mentally ill. Agenda is not limited to politics you faggot retard.
>>59359495My biggest problem with hyper autists like him is they start second channels, tell no one, then start posting everything on there instead. It's Magpie Field Notes and literally only linked in the about section on his channel page.
>>59359531Where in south america are you from with grammar like this? Would you even be able to read a summary if someone gave you one?
do you think werster is lucky enough to achieve this as well?
>>59359544just did this off streamama, no notes as well. just a natural
>>59359531I did watch the video shut up ESL-kun
>>59359542>muh ESLAre you done faggot? Go dilate.
>>59359531It's been summarized multiple times here. But I guess reading isn't a Werster fan's strong suit. Now be a good boy and tell him he's the best for the 500th time, maybe you'll get to suck his cock someday!
>>59359468talk shit get hit is a basic rule of life is this really surprising
>>59359477Besides latest games/anime episodes, I pretty much only care about romhacks and fangames so I'm being exposed to a whole new wolrd right nowI don't know who any of these people are
The bias in the video couldn't be more apparent. The faggot literally goes on some spiel about how cheating is imbalanced and encourages people to cheat. This is textbook manipulation. If the faggot isn't going to stick to objective matters then I'm not going to care about what he says. Ruined his own video because he couldn't help but moral grandstand and manipulate.
>>59359534He plugs it in other videos, I don't really follow it because I don't have enough time on my hands for all those uploads. If the important stuff is on one channel that's enough.
>>59359554>muh transAre you done faggot?
This thread is a fucking discord raid of at least two faggots. Pathetic.He didn't submit it and who the fuck cares what he says about other faggots?
>>59359040>Speedrunners are legitimately afraid of PvPThis isnt just a meme. This is actual deepseated psychological shit worthy of a 30 minute youtube essay. There's people with such dread for pvp the mere mention of it actively triggers their fight or flight response, and speedrunners happen to be the group most likely to have this response.
>>59359164>starts an episode with trans rights>almost gets his career fucked by a trannyPottery?
I #standwithwerst
>Thread has multiple TLDRs in it>Autists screech over and over that the video is too long, there is no proof and anyone who disagrees is a faggotlmaobad look for Werstersissies
>>59359568There is no bias, werster. He even did calcs heavily in your favor and it was still virtually impossible. Oops, I used the evil c word again!
>>59359568>cheating is imbalanced and encourages people to cheatI don't know man
>>59359568On multiple occasions he gives Werster the benefit of the doubt, dunno what you're on about
>>59359570What kind of Kindergarten game is this? Copy the next retard because you cannot get other people to your side?
>>59359584The entire video is assuming the absolute best and he still gets shat on by the stats
>>59359589No proof tho lmao just stats
>>59359579KEK, it's sad but true
>>59359579go gather more people before doing a raid>inb4 you call me Werster too
>>59359593I could see how you would think that if you didn't understand what stats are
>>59359598Lol probabilities are not proof
why would your nickname in the pokemon community be WeskerWeskerwhat is next, Pokemon world champion Jerry
>>59359580>There is no bias, werster.He literally admits in the beginning in no uncertain terms that he has a bias against Werster. Shut the fuck up you colossal retard.>>59359584"Benefit of the doubt" in this case essentially boils down to "he played the game a lot(holy fuck what a revelation Werster being autistic about Pokémon?)" and "her played better off stream(which is extremely common.)"That's the most damning evidence present throughout the entire video. That's what nearly 80 minutes of rambling boils down to; Werster plays a lot and plays better off camera and nothing was outside the realm of possibility. What an absolute joke.
>>59359608why would you claim to be the best but have worst in your name lmao
>>59359608Why would someone on the internet call himself xXx420_Pu$$y_S1aYeR_9001xXx ?
>>59359615>He literally admits in the beginning in no uncertain terms that he has a bias against Werster.timestamp or it didn't happen
>>59359603Correct, which is why he is never once accused of cheating in the video. You DID watch the thing you're talking about before defending someone, right?
>>59359139>He claims the 212 is not manipulatedWhere in this vid? At the end, he shows his 212 doubles strea, but doesn't make any claism it is legit. I always assumed it was RNG manipulated, just like the "over 500" streak in the video he demonstrates was manipulated.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KXYKHNRr1U
>>59359615You are in a separate reality lmfao
>>59359615Yeah, the guy who has been streaming since forever plays so significantly better offline (despite him barely interacting with chat) that he not only raises his winrate but plays way way faster, THE SAME SPEED HE DOES DURING A SPEEDRUN which one would never do during a long streak - given that he thinks slowly on stream during long streaks!
Smells like autism in here
>>59358778I don't think it does put his speedruns into question, all of his current records have full videos, most of them played on a stream. Perhaps it might require a once over double check but the issue of him doing it off stream so nobody can analyze it doesn't apply to the speedruns so if anyone wants to find the cheats go ahead: https://www.speedrun.com/users/werster
>>59359628>denies something which is explicitly stated in the video>"hurr durr u live seprit reality!"The lack of self-awareness is astounding.
>>59359632gay mentally ill retarded nigger ultra 'tism
>>59359632No duh retardThis is drama centered around high level gen 3 single player challenge runsIf anyone in here isn't autistic, they need to get the fuck out
>Magpie gives Werster the greatest statistical benefit of the doubt in the video>"CLEARLY BIASED REEEEE!!!"
WHERE DID WESTER BRAG ABOUT GETTING A 212 WINSTREAK No one is fucking pointing to where he said this. I even read the fucking paper and there is no source to this.
>>59359632the pot said to the kettle
>>59359659I don't watch speedrunners since they're all latent transgenders so I couldn't tell you, sorry.
>>59359659Not going to help you find what vids to delete, wurster
>>59359103I genuinely felt sorry for him for this, his mom encouraged his fiancé/wife and the brother to get together. From what I know of him, he has diagnosed and undiagnosed mental issues, he has a very strained or non-existent relationship with his Dad, and his Mom's reaction to how stacked the deck is against him was to just write him off and treat him like shit. There was that stream of him playing some puzzle game or sonic where he had a full on argument with her about it, she deflected everything and tried to gaslight him.Then he did this shit >>59359174 and I knew that the apple didn't fall far from the tree. His bloodline is actually fucking tainted, there's little to no goodness in any of them.
>Speedrunning community is just mega autists making up categories and then posting their own "records" without any objective evidence, based on the "trust me bro it's legit" systemWhat leads to this autism?
>>59359684australia is a cursed continent and anyone living there is evil by nature
>>59359669you seem to care a lot about trans people, you'll understand why one day ;)
>>59359685Seems its genetic/in their upbringing.
>>59359685This is not true speedrunning is not like that at all.
>>59359685>>59359694This is just werster and his gen 4 "x only" categories he made up
he should have used charizard charizards beats everything
>>59359685Hey guys I'm the world record holder in shitposts per minute category. Proof: trust me bro. This means I'm better than you. Worship me plebs.
>>59359694>>59359715No, all the speedrunning categories have random "rules" that are not enforced by any legitmate means to make sure autists are the best at their own categories they personally invented.Remember that mario speedrunner who got his WR "disqualified" cause the mario speedrun "council" got pressured by some autist with the previous record into modifying the speedrun rules so his mutliple controller strat was retroactively not allowed anymore, when it was allowed before?
>Australian people are evilbig shock?
>>59359753The Mario thing was because the tranny mod got scared he was gonna beat xer to TAS tie.
>>59359627At 19:05>I would consider my streaks outside of this 500 one as kind of like my PBs for my own personal progression, which I do without any calculators, any spreadsheets, any manips. So that 104, I think it was 95 I had in 50 singles, and then the big 200 one in open doubles.
>I do anticipate that the likely response to this video will be some kind of misdirection or some kind of vague counterclaim against the communityvery funny he called exactly what the fanboy in here is doing right now
>>59359759i hope lekukie gets it
>>59359615>He literally admits in the beginning in no uncertain terms that he has a bias against Werster.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Q6FKBLon84&t=708sHe repeatedly mentions in the video that all the analysis is biased in Werster's favor whenever possible.
>>59359825Minute 11:48 for the timestamp
>>59359825>retardThat has nothing to do with personal bias.
I'm 100% sure that at least 100 posts in this thread are made by OP
>>59359834it means personal bias has no play here
>>59358778>erm, actually my math proves you are a cheater>i definitely don't have an axe to grind
>>59359870well what makes you think this
>>59359880he mentions multiple times throughout the video that werster looks down upon the "battle factory community"
>>59359867>retardNo it doesn't. If there was no personal bias at play he wouldn't moral grandstand and spend so much time on things not relevant to objectivity.
>>59359889Yes, he does, does this mean he is free from criticism
>>59359889Motivation for running the numbers doesn't make them wrong. Maybe werster shouldn't have kicked the hornet nest if he had something to hide.
>>59359825some of the stuff he brings up seems to deliberately paint werster in a bad light, for example:>he brings up that werster uses spreadsheets for reference when speedrunning, but werster has made it no secret he uses notes when playing which is different from using 3rd party programs or spreadsheets for real time calcing>he mentions werster took down certain vods but since he's a bit of an edgelord it's possible he's took that stuff down because of comments he would have made>the stuff about werster actually cheating is weak, cheating at sonic when he was 9 is dumb kid shit and the thing about the cheated red speedrun was apparently to show how easy is it to get cheated runs approved (if he was after glory/bragging rights, as is implied to be his justification for cheating throughout the video, why would he do it under a different name?)>he make a big deal of the difference between werster's streamed pbs and his off-stream pbs, but doesn't mention how many attempts werster has played on stream. if werster has a pb of 95 on stream and he did 20 high streak attempts that would be a strong point but if he's only done 1 or 2 streak attempts then losing early to bad luck is not out of the question>he frequently mentions werster bragging about his streak but shows no evidence for this (not saying it never happened but it's weird to bring up so many times and not show footage)
speedreader heredoes factory get "easier" or normalize at a certain point?
>>59358778Imagine the chaos if he cheats in pokemon clover.
>>59359687Can confirm, am Australian
>>59359913no it is just static after gold fight more or less
>Now thanks to this, there won't be HGSS/Stadium runs tonightThanks faggot
>>59359913There's a bug where enemy IVs scale off the battle tower's win streak instead of the factory, while the player's initial draft will correctly be all 31s, so your initial picks will have a big advantage. Of course the catch is if you swap them you'll get the lower IV enemy mons so its on you to decide if it's worth it.This starts at like round 7 so it has no bearing whatsoever on werster's bullshit record, coincidentally the guy who made the OP video is the one who discovered it.
>>59359927good
>>59359937actually him playing like shit in the factory on stream would make a lot more sense if he didn't know about this bug so maybe it might suggest it's fake even more
His raging at the games is funny. That's all.>"B-but!"That's all.
>>59359927my comfort bedtime stream...
>>59359946That anon is mixing up two bugs.Yes, the whole tower thing where enemy pokemon have 3 IV is right but he definitely knows about it, he ran the all gold symbols run. And this is active at all times.There is another bug in rounds 8 and 9 where in your draft you should get 31 IV pokemon but instead they are random IVs making those two rounds the actual hardest rounds, even harder than what comes after. What was found recently is that by resting in the middle of a round, all the IVs of your team get set to their respective attack IVs. So if you get shit IVs overall but a good attack IV it is good to rest and viceversa.
>>59359946I remember he talked about it when he did his All Gold Symbols speedrun.
>>59359927Why would you watch a cheater?
>>59359937So could you have a battle tower streak of 30+ or something and that would mean you get better mons (although harder battles as well)?
>>59360012it only affects enemy IVs
>>59360012You could but you'd be much worse off by every fight being much harder, and a lot of draft options being much worse because of it.
>>59360012If you get a half-decent draft you wouldn't do much swapping in the first place. Increasing the enemy IVs for better swaps isn't worth it
>>59358778I have no idea who you are, but you sound like a gigafaggot, a genetically inferior subhuman to be this much of a mega-autist over a children video game, but it gets worse, you choose to be a malicious mega-autist going after some other faggot mega-autist in some pathetic desire for eceleb cred, attention. Thats worse, since this "werster" is a relatively harmless mega-autist that posts timewasting videos about shit no one cares about, while you are doing the same, but also being aggressive for no good reason, ruining everything, your presence here is a form of social pollution, a symptom of terminal onlineness. Its like the worse of sharty and reddit put together .Then you spam you faggot link on /vp/ in a desperate attempt for attention and ad revenue. What a waste of life. Just from that, I can assume that you will degenerate in the future and you will be turned into a complete golem. In what direction? I wouldn't know, but if in 10 years I find out your a school shooter, you trooned out, meltdown in front of your family and get put in prison, you married your "AI wife" and rot in your bathtub. None of these fates would surprise me. I don't even need to guess, I've seen this played out so often in 36 years of life.
>>59360026Thank you for the input ChatGPT
>>59360026>t. malding werster
>>59359767So fucking what? He flashes that 212 record for 3 seconds in a vid about why BF winstreaks are stupid and easily manipulated.show me a video of him celebrating getting a 212 doubles winstreak and taunting other WR players on their BF attempts.
>>59360004It's fun when he gets angry towards RNGAlso comfy
>>59360020Yeah but you get one of your opponent's mon whenever you beat them or are they generated differently when it's the opponent vs when you get them?
>>59359103>BROTHER! GIVE ME THE WORLD RECORD AND MY WIFE IS YOURS!
>>59360025Maybe you could do it to have a hard mode run of the factory
>>59359103>cucked by own brotherThat would break any man I'm surprised he's still alive.
>>59360037Most mons still wouldn't be worth swapping for even with good IVs, the enemies get far more out of it than you do, because you have to beat them all while they only need to win once.
>>59360040all swaps is a new category
>>59360045I am the champion of all swaps, no I won't post proof.
>>59360049good for you werster, show us when you get to 98
>>59360035NTA and I do not have the VOD but there was a stream a little after LRXC set a new factory record where I remember Werster ranting for a long while about how using damage calcs, and spreadsheets that tell your about what trainer you're about to fight is cheatingIt's something that has come up a lot it's just a normal topic that tends to arise when he streams factory it's a continued patternBut no I personally don't have fucking timestamps from last year, or two years ago's VODs memorized so
>>59360049I kneel....
>>59359468>>59360053Werster is a little bitch, he throws banter but can't take it. I remember LRXC made a video and he poked fun at Werster in the thumbnail. He got his panties in a bunch and LRXC apologized and changed it, but he still threw a melty and blocked him.
>>59360067yeah that's exactly what happened I think he legit just pasted Werster's head on a Jolteon or some shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcBbE3t6cLA
>>59360053the whole point of the offending video is implying that werster made a big fuss celebrating a 212 win streak and attacking other players for the record but I don't see anything of the sort from werster. Just flashing that record for 3 seconds in a separate video while not even acknowledging it. He didn't even submit it for a record. I honestly thought it was maniupulated as it's in a vid where he literally is manipulated another record. Like, I think this is forcing drama for no reason.
>>59360035>So fucking what?So at that point in the video he clearly claimed that the 212 run was legit and not manipulated, which answers the question asked by >>59359627.
>>59360073Based
>>59360053>damage calcs, and spreadsheets that tell your about what trainer you're about to fight is cheatingThat absolutely is fucking lame and gay cheating.I saw a livestream of a dude going for a BF winstreak, and spent one hour deciding the first move after running damage calcs and checking spreadsheets. He literally went into his discord to discuss with his buddies what the best option was, like at what ponit is it not even his record anymore when you can do all that.
>>59360035you cheated, worster
>>59360090well you and werster are the only ones who think so, and even then he's lying since he's been caught using them himself despite how much he complains about them
>>59360084>clearly claimedI disagree here, it was "clearly" claimed, but I can agree he definitely was implying he got the record "legimately". But a far cry from him throwing a big celebration of a record. Werster usually uploads a separate vid talking about the accomplishment and fanfare for it. He almost is implying it is faked too, given the rest of the video showing how easy it is to fake records.don't know why other autists are getting mad at werster. It would make more sense if he laughed in their faces
>>59360096>Werster usually uploads a separate vid talking about the accomplishment and fanfare for it.No you don't, Werster. At most you put a paragraph in the description nobody reads.>He almost is implying it is faked tooWhy would he say he treats it as a PB then?
>>59360095>well you and werster are the only ones who think soYou seriously think running calcs, looking at spreadsheets, discussing with your buddies, and spending an hour on a move is not fucking breaking the spirit of the game? Imagine winning a chess game doing this every single move, and still claiming you did it fair and square.Fucking WR autists love to make up their own rules and categories to feel superior. Honestly a real record show at least have a timer so you can't do all this crap for too long.
>>59360100I really appreciate this pretending to be werster bit, you've got his dumb arguments down pat
>>59360098I am still waiting for someone to post the actual "stream" where werster completes the 212 record. I know most of it was offstream but it is insinuated that the last 10 or so fights were on stream, so let's see it. If werster is really celebrating on this stream than I get why people are upset.
>>59360100prove that you aren't doing that on stream when you pause and say nothing for 2 minutes in a dark room so no one can see your face lol
>>59360107You seriously think running calcs, looking at spreadsheets, discussing with your buddies, and spending an hour on a move is not fucking breaking the spirit of the game?
>>59360108so why are you doing it, worster?
>>59360090I agree and think it's dumb Well, damage calcs not so much since it isn't as much help as people think (when you play you're probably doing mental damage calcs without realizing) it's just when you need to know down to decimal that I feel like yeah that's cheating
Reminder that his L100 OL streak of 104 was also mostly played offline, which he also treats it like a legit PB.
Don't all speedrunners manipulate the game in some way anyways?
>>59360119Manipless categories exist and this claim isn't about speedruns
>>59360096>He almost is implying it is faked too, given the rest of the video showing how easy it is to fake records.How is he implying that, when he literally says that he didn't use the manips shown in that video for the 212 record, and that he considers it to be his real record?
>>59360124He spent the entire vid shitting on why BF winstreak records are dumb and than flashes his record for 3 seconds while not even directly addressing it. It's something called subtlety which you need to not be autistic to understand the nuances.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzXplr6L8jkHere's the 210-212 stream. 3 battles in 50 minutes, which he did not play well, then has zero fanfare and blames the loss on RNG.
>>59360119You're allowed to rng to start a run (get a good set for the first 7), but not after. Rng is banned throught the actual factory run. Emerald runs, and honestly all pokemon games where it's possible to gain time with it, are generally allowed or at worst have a separate category and normally it's very clear when you do because it requires some set up. Emerald and dead battery RS are unique in that you don't nees to set up in the same way to know the seed and thus rng as consistently as anyone could. I know there's a lot of rng + seed manip in rby, but again, that's obvious when done due to set up. Some games I assume have no relevant rng would be gen 7 (you get the mon you use through a trade with set stats and nature on the first island, so the starter isn't that important and set up requires a plugin/emulator to tell you the seed or a comparably lengthy process), gen 8 (starter barley matters, you get your carry mon from dynamax adventures which can't be rng'd), and gen 9 (can't be rng'd). Gen 4 and 5 could be, no clue about those runs, but requires setting your game to specific times so it would be obvious when done. Also I think BW uses Stoutland and BW2 uses Exca which might be rng'd. Again not sure. Literally zero clue about gen 2 but I don't think there is very much of a community breaking down how the game ticks to do the work for runners.
>>59360131That's at 18:19, but we're talking about the part at 19:05 where he does address it.
>>59360135>You're allowed to rng to start a run (get a good set for the first 7), but not after.Who decided this was okay? The speedrun "council" which is made up of the previous speedrunners who can change the rules so their records can never be challanged?
I wish the good players would take his Factory records already.
>>59360144At what point are factory records just whoever grinds the longest until they get good RNG. Where is the actual skill in this
>>59360144they already have, even is bullshit run was only second place
>>59360141The same group who werster has submitted previous runs to and now is crying about allowing damage calcs. Clearly he thinks they're a valid authority if he both makes appeals for them to change their rules and has followed them previously.
>>59360145>grinds the longest until they get good RNGwhat do you even think this means
>>59360145The actual skill is in actually playing the game properly and consistently, wtf do you meanIt's not like pokemon is just a flow chart, you're reacting to the current knowledge you have and trying to circumvent losing via unknown stuff like what set you're facing or what other pokemon are in the back
>>59360152It's more like the WR for battle factory a lot of times is who gets the luckiest draw. If you get a set 4 staraptor or whatever, sometmies you can breeze through 7 sets clicking the same move.
>>59360154No one else parrots this opinion except Werster, which he doesn't even follow himself.
>>59360145well according to the math, higher skill means that you are less affected by rngthat's why werster isn't allowed to have such a long streak, but the guy with the wr iswerster's run required 1 in 1 trillion luck, but the wr which is 70 wins longer only required 1 in 50 luck due to his higher skill
>>59360155There's no way to "grind" for that, short of direct manip which the leaderboards don't allow. You're just as likely to get garbage instead and will have to make the best decisions you can to win with it. The probability that someone can just bullshit their way through hundreds of battles this way might as well be impossible, meaning long streaks are much more skill than luck.
speedrunning is truly a special breed of autism lmfao
>>59360170yeah especially when you make up your own rules and categories. It's so fucking stupid. Who gets to decided whether a certain controller counts as "legit" or not?
>>59360160>>59360163Some WR can truly never be beaten without skill.However BF records, like speedrunning to silver record which werster loves to do, can theoretically be obtained by you or me if you get insanely lucky with powerful pokemon and favorable MUs.werster spends 100s of hours "grinding" just to get lucky like this. Where is the skill?
>>59360177The skill is defying probability for 200+ wins, which is exponentially more difficult than just button mashing to the gold print.
>>59360160Yes. Any sort of logic would agree with that assertion. Unless you believe that every single thing that happens in a game is predetermined regardless of player skill, and only sheer time commitment matters. Also, documentation and proper play time by the world record holder helps his caseMeanwhile, Werster only played just enough to barely squeeze in enough games to achieve the record while playing insanely fast (perfect and quick decision making)>>59360159I genuinely have no idea what the fuck you mean both speedrunners and long streak people would agree, any living breathing human being would agree, do you think playing video games in a monkey and type writer scenario??
>>59360177>Where is the skill?As you said, there isn't much skill involved and the rest of the community doesn't care. Speedrunning Factory symbols is a thing only he does, probably because he still can't get far legitimately after 42.
>>59360178sorry I wasn't talking about that record. yeah it's faked lmaoI mean normally he has been grinding for fastest to silver / gold in the BF every week for the past several years
>>59360177Anon, if you are given Zapdos in the factory you don't just skip battles and automatically win. What on earth are you talking about? There's no auto win match up, even Werster's RNG manipulated Factory runs, like for All Gold Prints, has times where stuff goes wrong due to battle RNG.
>>59360182So the community just makes up categories and their own arbitrary rules so they can boost their own egos and act superior and gatekeep their communities, right?
>>59360181>I genuinely have no idea what the fuck you meanI agree with you, I replied to the wrong person lol my bad.
>>59360183In terms of a print speedrun that's the only real way to do it, long win streaks where you can't just start over on a whim are a different game entirely.
I've watched a lot of werster's livestreams and the chat comments speak exactly like 4chan faggots. It's the same fanbase.
>>59360187that's what werster is doing, yes
Is the guy who miraculously saved 2 hours on a stadium run? Yup sounds like a cheater
>>59360187Not really. Rules are agreed upon by the members of the community, shown by werster abiding by those rules or at least pretending to while also clearly stating when he didn't, such as his fully rng'd run. Same as any rule, it only exists in that people agree it does.
>>59360210actually the rules are made up by a small number of people, and anybody that wants to participate must follow the rules regardless of whether they agree with themmost people don't get help from other people during runs, only the big ecelebs with lots of discord buddies and those are the same people who decide the rules
>>59360187No, rules are established to set precedent and standardsThere's no ego involvedThe only one gloating and defaming others is Werster
>>59360216If it's so pointless and retarded a ruleset, why try to pass off a factory record as adhering to their rules? Better yet, why specify in other runs when and how you go outside of those rules so that your record cannot be passed off as one that follows their set of rules? Smells fishy
>>59360216plenty of people go for records of their own without caring about a given leaderboard's rules, you'd only piss and complain if you were demanding their approval specifically, like werster
Glad I changed my Pokemon 押し to Wolfey bros
>>59360216>anybody that wants to participate must follow the rules regardless of whether they agree with themYes that's how...anything worksAnd it's not like it's called an official leaderboard anyway. It's just a community that has a leaderboard.
So whats the verdict? are we gunna hang him from the town square or will this blow over and he will be unaffected and back to normal in a month?
>>59360234It doesn't really matterAt most his stadium runs need an explanation, but I think that's also just a category he himself made up and has fun in so who knowsOlder records, eh, idk
>>59360234I really don't care what happens to him, he was a fag before and he's still a fag now. It is very funny how hard this nigga tore him apart though.
>>59358778I don't understand why werster has acted like a tranny about this for so long. Is being the "very best" really so important to put your streams (and livelihood) in jeopardy?The Factory on Youtube is also doing numbers. It would help his channel and stream grow if anything.
>>59360234verdict is it doesn't matter but the lesson is don't throw stones in glass houses
>>59360234The only real repercussion is that his stadium runs will be investigated since they are actually submitted. Nothing burger besides that
>>59360249He only cares about people that will suck his dick no matter what
werster mad as hell deleting youtube comments alreadyalso apparently youtube lies to you and doesn't show when one you made was deleted
>>59360273where? I want to see them. How to see deleted comments
>>59360278they're deleted, baka
>>59360284"how to see deleted comments"Is there a way, like you can see deleted xitter and reddit posts
>make your own world record category>declare yourself the winner>manipulate the category stipulations and rules so no one can ever claim your titleISHYGDDT
>>59360190Werster was one of the few Pokecelebs that you were able to shill on the board without being mocked, so that checks out.
>>59359455>Quick Claw thingI know nothing about Stadium 2 but you can have the item in GSCCan't you transfer pokemon with items from GSC to Stadium 2?
>>59358778Imagine watching some faggots playing the games instead of playing the games yourself and treating these faggots as some kind of celebrites.You're basically a cuck watching Mr.Tyrone plowing your wife's ass...
>>59360329The good players verbalize their thought process so you can learn something from them.Cuckster says nothing for several minutes, then misplays and blames the "shitty" RNG.
>>59360328When you connect pokemon yellow (or red/blue) to Stadium 2, the game generate an item on those pokemon based on the catch rate of the Pokemon.The catch rate is set at the moment you get/caught a pokemon and it doesn't change even if you evolve a pokemon.Because Gen 1 pokemons can't have held items, stadiums 2 give Gen 1 games items based on the catch rate.No pokemon has a catch rate that would make stadium 2 give it quick claw, unless you edit the catch rate from a pokemon with pkhex or other save editing tool.
>>59358802aged like milk
>>59360329Imagine going on an image board about the games instead of playing the games themselvesWhat sort of faggot does thatOh you
>>59358778>1:08:49>werster gets basic recall egregiously wrong during his live commentary, but will magically fix this after a suspiciously long pause where we see him look away from the game's console and towards his laptop.scumbag.
>>59360348Here is the proof, list of items and their index number:https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_items_by_index_number_in_Generation_IIAnd the list of all pokemon catch rates, no pokemon from gen 1 (or any gen whatsoever) have a catch rate of 73https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_catch_rateSo its impossible to have a pokemon from RBY to show up with quick claw on Stadium 2 unless the save has been tampered with.
>>59360361its ironic that he's getting outed by the guy who actually doesn't use damage calcs, exactly what werster wishes he was
>>59360367Yet another proof of the Normie > Autist > Psycho/Sociopath > Normie rule. Weapons grade autism exposes the sociopath liar once again.
>>59360361why would he look over months of vod footage but not include a single clip of this?
>>59360361so is misty werster's waifu? He always uses this profile pic but never addresses it
>>59360382Because it’s not the main topic of the video
>>59360234There is no proofs
>>59360404Sorry Werster, you're cooked.
>>59360405
>>59360410you know this meme was made to make fun of people like you right?
>>59360410see >>59358778
>>59360411>>59360412 No evidence is provided only conjecture
>>59360414i see evidence, sorry worster
The tranny in the video just keeps repeating that Werster isn't a tranny so his runs don't count. How is not being a tranny cheating? Makes no sense, the whole video he keeps talking about how he's a tranny and Werster isn't and somehow that means Werster cheated?
>>59360426Werster, you've gone off the deep end. It's over.
>>59358968Low IQ /vp/trannies will continue sucking his cock because he said niggers in AGDQ one time.
>>59360426Bait used to be believable
IS our goat cooked
Does anyone have a link to his 1:55 Yellow run?
Torkoal won
Does anyone have any actual info/sources on the recent Sonic claims? He spends 15 minutes talking about werster's background and how it's sketchy but neither the video or the paper actually cites anything, which seems like a pretty major omission. This goes for basically every claim that isn't the actual raw data analysis saying that he essentially had a perfect, high-speed run that doesn't align with how he actually plays under no-manip scenarios.I have to imagine this is 100% a case of him intentionally trying to piss the Battle Frontier people off, like the guy in the video speculates, given that he's done so in the past and he's had beef with them for years now.
>>59360558>Does anyone have any actual info/sources on the recent Sonic claims?It's not really relevant, but there's a mod in the Sonic speedrun community confirming his suspicions in the comments. He also shows the vods and their names in the video.The video is less a hit piece on werster as a speedrunner and moreso calling out his shitty hypocritical behavior on Factory streaks.
>>59360484seems to be deleted but you can see evidence it once existed, like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kVG3dr6Dx0
Another Magpie W
>>59360216yes, this. the rules of any sport are made up by a small number of people. all the people in this thread complaining about "b-but they're just making up their own rules" is legitimately mediocre IQ. it's a sports league where you have to abide by certain rules, and if you don't like it, you can start your own league. if more people agree with you, your league will be bigger. this is no different than complaining about smogonwester is also a midwit because he claims damage calculators are cheating. no, they are not cheating if the league allows it. if you don't like it you can make your own. nobody is stopping werster from making a league where damage calcs are forbidden but his savescummimg isn't
>>59360881But he never submitted the 212 to their "league", so what do they care if he's not following their rules? It's not like it's challenging a run which was fully submitted to them, it's just going after some guy for his casual whatever run. What are they, the police of the battle factory now? Does everyone have to submit their PBs to them for analysis?
>>59360886Because if someone who is more famous than you flaunts their fraudulent results while mocking you it is only natural to want to respond back
>>59360886ok, he can just say he savescummed and this is the new second place savescumming record and that's the end of that. he won't do this because he clearly wants people to believe he didn't savescum. he did this because he has a personal grudge against magpie due to being outautismed by him, ever since magpie had a stream laughing at how amateur his factory attempts were, as evidenced by him always posting in discord about magpie videos within 6 seconds of them being posted If he doesn't respond they won't count the record and that's the end of that
People seem to be missing the context of how a full time pokemon chud like werster would be so petty to make himself look like such a god, him doing this fits perfectly with the kind of person he is.Conveniently getting a streak pb, that would need to be played at wr pacing from beginning to end, the moment BF gets more traction on the internet, but ofc his record isnt beating it otherwise its maybe too obvious, but its also enough for him to have it there and brag that he doesnt use tools.He acts so full of himself, hes just like all the other tards on this board here that see anybody do any challenge but muh candies or muh pkhex so its invalid, just an excuse to bring the whole thing down so you have the excuse to deny any credibility, except werster having nothing to do with his life but play pokemon, will go the extra mile to make himself look good. Worst part his the people who watch him eat this shit up kek.
aussies cheat, that's old news
>>59360361I actually watched that no calcs video and it was pretty interesting seeing the thought process behind the rapid mental math top players do and how just by using known simple information one can get a reasonable guess of what percent you'd do without ever using the damage formula. Like yes this is sort of a calculator of it's own but it's more like a guesser than an actual correct formula and this is one that can be easier to mentally learn.
>>59360477goat is clean, fren
>you don't want to play by our rules? that's fine, just don't submit to our leaderboard and you can play however you want>ARE YOU TALKING PUBLICLY ABOUT A RECORD THAT DOESN'T FOLLOW OUR RULES? IT DOESN'T MATTER THAT YOU NEVER TRIED TO SUBMIT IT, PUBLICLY TALKING ABOUT IT MEANS YOU WANT TO COMPETE WITH OUR LEADERBOARD>*wastes thousands of hours autisticly picking apart every second of every stream you did for 2 years*
>>59360972>>59359659I kind of liked both Magpie and Werster before this, never knew they hated each other. But any time I saw factory streaks come up on Werster streams, Werster never claimed to have any records, he only ever referred to his runs as a personal best, and he didn't take factory streaks seriously at all because of how it's possible to manip. So this feels like Magpie, the guy who's whole life revolves around gen 3/4 battle frontier, took offense to Werster dismissing his life's passion, and now Magpie is just starting a witch hunt in a petty sperg out of autistic seething.
>>59360986Funny that he looks up to Jobby of all people too
>>59360972the damning evidence is the disparity between hours played and progress made on the streak. It speaks for itself. the rest of the video is definitely the guy trying to go for the fucking jugular because he clearly doesn't like the aussie
he responded on the 'cord four hours ago
>>59361014could you post the response?
>>59361007i'm not saying werster didn't cheat, but does it matter if he isn't competing on their leaderboard?it's like accusing a let's player of cheating, it doesn't affect you
>>59361019It matters when he's talking mad shit about you
>>59358778He had enough of getting cucked it seems
Sad!!
>>59361016https://litter.catbox.moe/chb8cz0la983xijq.txt
>>59361045>Basically, for a lot of the sets (but not all, I got bored occasionally), I was playing from the start of the game, mashing fast, and then going on the first 'easy' audio cue in the music. Turns out doing this gets you Starmie 3 a lot. And turns out with Starmie 3 you win a lot, especially with the IV advantage.Isn't this straight up admitting it?
>>59361054The tl;dr is these two lines>Anyway tl;dr, if you wanted to say the 212 streak was RNG manipped, you can. I was never claiming it played by any community ruleset, I don't even know where they draw the lines.And>2) The "IGT discrepancies", I think it mostly covered by the above - playing with good consistent Pokemon, and without animations, and without explaining to people my line of thinking, is a lot faster
>>59361058But before this he never admitted it was maniped while he did admit the 500 one was had that hit piece never came out there's no telling if he ever would have confessed to the 212 being fake
>>59360972>>59361019Werster knows that his popularity and reputation will automatically get him recognized for any record, regardless of whether or not he submits it to a leaderboard. As mentioned in the video, he is likely abusing this to avoid his footage being analyzed for cheats, as well not having his record publicly denied for lack of evidence.
>>59361061So? It was never submitted and he never claimed it was any kind of record, just a personal streak.
>>59361054He was intentionally trying to not intentionally manip. If RNG is seeded on boot and there is a supposed "easy" audio cue that doesn't take much effort it's damn near muscle memory.
>>59361068Just a personal streak he brings up to shit on people, you can't use a streak to attack people who the streak doesn't apply to because they aren't cheating like he was
>>59361074He shit on people by saying "you can just RNG manip", so he was proven right? Hell, proven more right now considering this run was done through "accidental" manipulation where he was just vaguely mashing around the first easy audio cue.Has he ever shit on someone by saying "lol you're bad at the game because my streak is higher"?
you just GOTTA feel bad for Werster
>>59361045So he slightly cheated on a meaningless record that he never submitted anywhere, got called out for it, and now admitted to it. Case closed.
>>59361054No.
>>59361128after shit with Chugga fuck no I dont
>>59361045>Anyway, I might take a couple days off before getting back to streaming. Between the ff stuff, the lilly stuff, and the chugga stuff,I had no idea about any of this. He had drama with chugga as in chuggafuckingconroy? Geez
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcBbE3t6cLAHe can't keep getting away with it
Who the fuck is chugga?
>>59361142zoom zoom
>>59361139his friend was one of chugga's accusers during that drama
>>59361141/srg/...
if the run wasn't submitted, what's the problem?
>>59361167Literally unironically autismThere is no other explanation
>>59361167There is no problem. Werster just has a target on his back because he offends a lot of people so some autistic sperg took it upon himself to try and call out Werster for... not even breaking any rules because he wasn't competing.
>>59361176Rules matter.....why?
Video should have ended here at 1m40s.
>>59359091No it’s the person behind werster on the leaderboard trying to take his spot. I hate shit like this cause werster might be a shitty retard but he knows his pokemon shit. This person isn’t as knowledgeable as Werster and is most likely big mad they’re big bad
>>59361139>He had drama with chugga as in chuggafuckingconroy? GeezWhen that troon tried to cancel chugga (dude has a footfetish and would larp it with that tranny) wester backed the tranny
>>59361204>This person isn’t as knowledgeable as Werster and is most likely big mad they’re big badWhy do you state that when this person is the one behind such findings like the battle tower streak counting for the factory glitch
Reminderhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcBbE3t6cLA
>>59359394The statistics in the video have no backing, really all the dude is saying is>werster jumped on live with a bigger streak than mine and I’m upset about it so he must have cheatedThe dude is probably a huge faggot so werster probably cheated to do better than him and never submitted the run just to troll the guy
>>59359429The dude who is behind him made the video. He’s trying to discredit this streak to try and get all of Wersters work removed. Pathetic attempt to achieve literally nothing.
>>59359450Bye magpies
>>59361167Werster gets free clout and legitimacy. It's more about the moral of the thing cuz he kept taunting battle frontier autists, this video shows why he was out of his depth. He's no better than verlisify and his troon fans will soon realize that
>>59361191calm down werster
>>59361207Because you’re talking about the dude who literally discovered rng manipulation in emerald and had started mapping 10+ years ago.Anyone can sit at their computer and fuck with tools to see outcomes. It takes a lot more than that to prove cause and effect, which Werster has done.
>>59361223No he is not
>>59361219>Bigger streak than mineYou do realize he has a higher streak in factory than Werster right?
What a clown
Werster responsehttps://x.com/itsmestitches/status/2066174906719449433
>>59361241Why can't both people be skilled why do you have to deny the achicements of the other guy?
>>59361264Is that fucking AI slop as his profile pic?
>>59361264Fuck this nigger lmao. He has no skill
>>59361264>admits he was using the streak to attack factoryGODS because he was jealous>admits it was a cheated runwersterchuds in shambles
>>59361204>he knows his pokemon shitHe spent like an hour going "I have no idea what happened with the Quick Claw" on his Discord
>>59361264place bets on when he's trooning out
>>59361290He plays on physical cartridges, right? My guess would be some hardware issue, like how that SM64 TTC teleportation was from a partially inserted cartridge.
>>59361131pokemon speedruns are pretty meaningless, agreed. he will never be a good factory player.
cheating lies in his family
>>59361315more like with his family
>>59361131Conveniently letting out the parts when he deliberately left doubt in the air to give himself more legitimacy and credit. Werster is a nigger liar. All of his runs should be put into question
>>59361045>Yellow run>rewatching the video triggered me. That run was done when I was with people who I ended up falling out with many years later in a way that hurt me a lot, and I just wanted to erase that from my mind.So he's a snowflake, got it. How such a monumental run at the time was never properly archived by someone else is beyond my understanding.
>>59361045>so did i cheat in my speedruns>actually we need in-person speedruns to gatekeep it even morelol
>>59361378his claim is more along the lines of he's done the RNG manip so much that it's kind of instinctual. deliberately avoiding the RNG manip is itself RNG manip so he personally doesn't consider it because it's not intentional, and if others consider that RNG manip then that's fine too. Not that it really matters because he doesn't submit his runs / use the "official" rulesets so this entire argument over cheating based on rules he's not following is nonsense
>>59361409i know his 212 streak is bullshit and he knows it too. i'm looking at speedrunning, which he cares about the most
oi, yous got a loicense to press A on that frame?
>Werster apparently deleted all his shit for the 4th time in a rowboo hoo. Later bitch.
>12 years ago>this clip still hasn't been beatThis is why I won't miss Werster if he quits, which he won't because then he'd have to go out and fight kangaroos on the way to work. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1lDKFjhpFw
>>59361418Who would've thought playing on speedup and not a real cartridge made the runs more legitimate.
>>59361045What gets me is he treats throwing people he worked with and loved under the bus as "nonsense"Nigger those are real people you hurt. You are nothing
>>59361274Of all the things you could pick to respond to, and you chose that?
>>59361529answer the question werster
>>59361264>6:49 AMwhat fuck timezone are you in?
>>59361533>she's a third worlder
>>59361532it's 4am there lol do you think he's still up in this thread
>>59361538absolutely
>>59361264What the fuck is this even supposed to mean?
>>59361547it's how narcissists try to apologize for something without actually admitting fault
>>59361547that all your trannyposting about "where did he ever shit on factory players" is fake and gay
first time in a long while i've seen a non-general reach 400 replies on this board
>>59361547>I shouldn't be so antagonistic but I still want to shit on people better than me like the jealous insecure husk of a troon I am
>>59358810fuck werster and his "friend" for trying to ruin emile and the collab channel, he can go fucking kill himself on streamand then jon eventually ruined the channel literally a year later after trooning out, at least they finished wonder and party 9 before it happenedwhat a fucking shame
>>59360432Any based points he might have earned from that were lost when he worked to get the original upload taken down last year.
>>59361665the schizo is samefagging about it in the other thread so
>>59361045>3) The Yellow run being private: The truth around this is probably different to what I thought at the time. The reasoning I told myself at the time when I came back to it is that "it's an old pb on an inaccurate emulator, I shouldn't have people looking at this". The vague logic might be there, but the decision was probably far more emotional: rewatching the video triggered me. That run was done when I was with people who I ended up falling out with many years later in a way that hurt me a lot, and I just wanted to erase that from my mind.lmao triggered
I never knew this board was THIS mentally ill, but I should have expected it from 50 years old NEETs obsessed with a children game
>>59361778This is just normal and healthy autism thoughevetever
>>59361778not as bad as joining his discord to post the video
>>59361644The Chugga shit will never not piss me off, he's a harmless autist with a foot fetish, but people saw an opportunity to grift on him and took it. Everyone dogpiling him like that over shit that was easily disproven shocked me a little, except Masae, she always was just a user from the jump.I don't remember where I heard this from, it was years ago, but Werster had a deep dislike for Emile for a good while before any of the "drama" shit kicked off. No idea why he has a problem with him, maybe it was because Emile is the endearing kind of aspie and he wasn't, though Werster's upbringing probably went a long way into shaping him into the petty cunt he is today.ProtonJon was always the weakest of the three RunAwayGuys, the dynamic never needed a straight man imo, but I guess it's because he lacked a genuine personality and replaced it with the politics of the people he wanted to suck up to instead. Many such cases, he won't be the last. Also, his trooned out form looks like Chris Chan, unlucky.NCS is a god-tier bro, though.
>>59361167Because he fucking went live to finish the streak under the pretense that it was an otherwise legitimate run?Do you know what lying by omission is?Especially coming from someone like fucking Werster who loves throwing shade at other factory players for running calcs, you can't be surprised when hes held to a higher level of scrutiny
>>59361778and you, the person bitching and moaning, is above it all?
Werster is the leffen of pokemon.Better cut him off.
>>59358778SO? everyone cheats in Pokemon? When Wind and Waves come out watch how dead the /shiny/ general will be.
>>59361827You cheat in pokemon so your opinion is invalid. Try arguing like an actual human next time.
>>59361821werster's an asshole but he'll never be on Leffen's level until he has actual blood on his hands
Yeah Leffen legit got someone to die
>>59361843>people only turn into murderers after they committed the actYeah, it's better to wait until his discord starts hunting people down, lifes get ruined and people die.
>>59358778Bro is so mad he made a 80min “hit piece” with 0 proof of cheating and brings up Werster’s whole life story. Hold that L bitchboi>>59359191This
>>59361860Very weak troll
>>59361864Whatever. Let's just see what happens next.
>>59361843Leffen did nothing wrong
Werster got cucked lmao.
>>59361861sup werster, i hear wendy's is hiring
