ITT: Post Pokémon that got ruined by their evolutions
>>59363935Every single one that got an evo in gen 4
>>59363981Mismagius isn't so bad
Aipom/thread
Anybody who says Braixen is low T
>>59363981...except Mismagius, Gallade, Honchkrow, Weavile, Gliscor, Dusknoir, Magnezone and Froslass
>>59364008>Mismagius>Honchkrow>Dusknoirall garbage
>>59364017He said Pokémon that got ruined by their evolutions, not Pokémon that are ruined by default
>>59363981Mamoswine is kino, get the fuck outta here.
>>59364021>DusclopsOne of the biggest instances of nostalgia goggles in this franchise.>>59364039Based as well
>>59363935>>59363936>>59363976>>59364017For pokemon like these there's always two camps:>The ones that like the early stages but not the last one.>The ones that like the last stage but don't care for the early stages.Like yeah you might think that Ampharos "ruined" Flaaffy, but have you seem those Crystal threads crying about Mareep not being available in the wild? It's clear that Ampharos has a sizeable amount of fans.
>>59364008>>59364039all of those are either bad designs or worse than the originals
Ruined then fixed.
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>>59364235Sorry you're brown
>>59364203Mamoswine mogs Piloswine
>>59364241Brown is the shit you have for brains.>Verification is not required.
>>59363935I know what you are.
>>59364408>Verification is not requiredlarp harder lmao
>>59364461>newfagsThe irony eludes you.
>>59364445True, Huntail is ugly and Gorebyss just feels like it should be its own mon unrelated to Clamperl
>>59364471>no uSmartest brownoid
>>59364480I hope that one day Clamperl will get a new evo that feel like a Clamperl evo and not two unrelated pokemon.
>>59364546t. the guy who keeps making meowscarada bait threads
>>59364008murkrow is better than honchkrow
Why do they like to fuck up Gen 2 Pokémon so much?
>>59364590Most of gen 2 feel like small critter shitmons though, most crossevos were a welcome addition to make them feel like monsters that can stand in the battlefield rather than some out of place joke, very few had a reason to use gen 2 mons in GSC rather than gen 1 mons, which speaks for itself.In the topic of Ursaluna specifically, I don't care for the regular one but Bloodmon is cool.
>>59364221truly a /vp/ opinion
>>59364221Once again proving that Rhyperiorfags are seething Rhydon haters purely out of spite.
>>59364112I’ll never understand this for Ampharos and Dragonite. Is it not possible to like both them and their pre-evolutions for different reasons?Sure, I might prefer Ampharos over Mareep/Flaaffy and Dratini/Dragonair over Dragonite but that doesn’t mean I hate the latter, they’re still cool in their own right.
>>59364688Well, those people got pre-evo shill megas to satisfy them.
>>59364688desu I have never ever heard of an Ampharosfag that doesn't like the prevos and vice versa for Mareepit's only the Flaaffyfags not liking Ampharos and even then you'll only see one once in a blue moon
>>59364710I wasn’t even aware Flaafyfags existed. At least it’s obvious why people like Mareep
>>59364647>>59364656Was rhydon popular down in south america?
Do people here ever get tired of being disconnected from reality?
>>59364744Rhyperior would've been Mega Rhydon in gen 6.
>>59364774>>59364744You could say that about several of the gen 4 cross-evos now that I think about it.Whether that’s a good thing or not depends on the person, of course.
>>59364744desu they're not that far apart especially for how long that site's been up and kanto privilegewhat this really shows is that the line as a whole just isn't very liked overall and it's a battle of mid
>>59363935>>59363939>>59364590>>59364221Pic unrelated
>>59364902I'll bite, how is Incineshit's design better?
>>59364017>>59363976defiantly for these two i shouldent even need to explain>>59364546this just applies to all 3 gen 9 starters the middle stages are great but they all get ruined on the last stage
Raboot might be able to get a bit of a pass, but Cinderace is disgusting.
>>59364969lol the middle-stages of croc and duck look silly. They totally suffer from middle-stage syndrome.Middle and final stage cat are good.Final croc isn't my favorite, but it's a passable starter.Final duck is one of the worst starters that brings the "average" down, but final cat and croc are still decent.Final cat = Middle cat > Final croc > First duck > First croc > Middle duck > Middle croc
>>59364531He said Pokémon that were ruined by their evolution, not Pokémon that were saved by it
ITT: The mon doesn't just get bigger when it evolves.
>>59364969More like their first stages are all greatWeedcat middle stage is great, the other two have very meh middle stages
The funny thing about sinnoh cross gen evos is that they're pretty much ground zero for Pokemon becoming jobmons as they evolve.>Rhydon turns into a construction worker>Murkrow turns into a mob boss>Misdreavus turns into a witch>Lickitung turns into a gourmand>Roselia becomes a masquerade dancer>Piloswine becomes a skier
>>59363935>starts as a kino chibi kaiju creature that almost looks reminiscent of classic pokemon designs>turns into overdesigned cartoon animal slop
>>59365076Because a lot of them were tied to items it made sense that the items would affect pokemon designs, butMurkrow already seemed to ahve a witch theme even in gen 2 (its tail looks like a broom), so it just went from a "job" to another.Misdreavus was based on a banshee, that's why its "neck" has pearls, to make it look like a decapited head.While it's not part of its design per se, pokemon like Roselia were already depicted in the anime as the "stylish dancer" archetype, so it was there to some extent even before gen 4.
>>59364849It’s only really there to say that the weird fanfic Rhyperiorfags talk about doesn’t actually exist. Particularly the weird obsession with brown opinions.
the only pokemon to actually get ruined by its evoscarkol would be a passable middle stage if the final delivered but nah turn the interesting locomotive line into the most boring ugly kaiju in the series
>>59364688>I’ll never understand this for... DragoniteDratini/Dragonair is a slim, blue, serpentine, elegant and feminine sea serpent. Dragonite is a fat, orange, bipedal, goofy, and overall 'childish' looking Pokemon. Their appeals are entirely different, people who like the former two like elegant/feminine or snake-like things, people who like the later one like silly, goofy, tubby, 'friend-shaped' dragons. It is entirely possible to like both, but obviously not everyone is going to always like both types of design, leading to the infamous hate/fanbase for Dragonite.
>>59365123gmax is base doe
>>59365147see>>59363987
>>59365147Who actually likes anything in the Pidove line
>>59365390Mega Sceptile is better.
>>59365223me
>>59365493No.
>>59363935coincidentally
>>59365218mega delphox is a wizard, ew neo freak always ruining pokemon
>>59365123Only person who's posted one so far
>>59365076Is there anything that isn't a jobmon to you retards?
>>59363935>>59363936invalidvalid>>59364017>>59364445invalid>>59364590valid
>>59366875VenusaurCharizardBlastoise
>>59364590It’s really just because the art style has changed and the difference is really stark
>>59367090>perfumer>hang glider>swimmer
>>59367484>fanfic>fanfic>fanfictry again
>>59363935Agreed, Mareep and Flaaffy are good sheepmon designs that gets ruined by turning into whatever the heck Ampharos supposed to beAt least, we finally got a proper sheepmon with Wooloo and Dubwool
I don't dislike Ampharos but I do prefer Flaaffy. I wouldn't mind a regional form that ends with Flaaffy or a split evo that preserves the wool for Flaaffy. ImJust anything, really. Ampharos has the mega too so it's not like it's getting the short end of the stick.
>>59364546Meow
>>59367496Sorry your pokemon are shitty jobmons
I don't care for this Flaaffy VS Ampharos debate, but I was rewatching (or "watching" because I didn't remember a lot of it) the Hoenn anime and this part made me laugh.
>>59366600There was a romhack I played where the kanto trade evos evolved by maxing out their EVs in their highest stat and leveling up. I actually thought that was pretty clever.
>>59366693The Fennekin line is already NeoPokemon
>>59366693Delphox was always a mid final evo, at least the Mega makes it cool in an Alakazam kind of way.Not that it helps the waifufags that like Braixen though.
I fucking despise Greninja
>>59364590Should've remained single staged.
Crocanaw. I hate that Feraligatr loses the caveman motif. Honorable mention to Murkrow. I love Murkrow and Honchkrow but I hate that they're the same line. It goes from being a witch to a mafia head