Why doesn't Pokemon scale well into 3D? Like the towns in the GBA/DS games aren't big either but your brain/imagination fills in the details and makes the world seem bigger than it really is. But in the 3D games they just look pathetically small and I cannot unsee it.
The good news is that you can now make your own city.
>>59364268you kind of answer your own question, adding the 3rd dimension 'fills in' way too much and leaves less to the imagination which means it also demands more resources and fidelity to compete with how good we know a 3d space can look since we see one every day2d games are easier to look at and imagine what it might be like if it was a real 3d place like our world, sort of like reading a book
>>59365233>GF can't make a decent looking gameKnown fact. Gladly we now have Koei on board for the game where towns are the main focus.
>>59364268because on the gba/ds the character takes up 1 tile out of 150/221 respectively and the rest of that screen space is taken up by environmental detail. compare that to the games from BW onwards where the character model is extending past a 1x1 dimension and that already starts skewing the ratio lower and lower as the games release. and that's not to mention the quality of what you see on screen is also skewed due to perspective. i've always had a bias towards the 2D games and this is part of the reason.
>>59364268GF is why, its really that simple. The Witcher 3 is over ten years old, also on the Switch, yet Novigrad feels like a bustling city with tons of foot traffic and merchants and buildings you can freely enter without loading screens. The game looks dramatically better too, even ignoring the stylistic choices being different, and the Switch version is also the worst looking version of the game.
>>59364268The gym collection format kinda forces them to make multiple cities so the player has travel time between each one, and it's probably a mix of a few things:1- They don't want map real state to be taken by giant cities.2- They don't want players to "waste" too much time walking through walking concrete, that's also why they started to make the gas station pokemon centers.3- They don't want to create too many indoor locations so if you're going to have a bunch of places that you can't enter, isn't better to just create a smaller city and avoid that anyways?So the result is that they have a "big city" per region (your Castelias and Lumioses) while the other cities are more like miniature cities. Some pull this off better than others due to design, like Artazon (the sunflora city) isn't big, but the design hides it better compared to Alfornada (the psychic gym city).
>>59366379To add: If a game didn't have the gym colleciton format, they probably could focus on like 1 or 2 really impressive cities and then make the whole rest of the region wildlife.
>>59366381>>59366379I might agree with you if Lumiose City didn't exist
>>59366403The amount of money and time allocated to a Lumiose-type city can't be reproduced for the whole cities in the game, it would break GF's back in half.So yes, in theory they're able to make stuff like that, but it's supposed to be the exceptional exception rather than the default.
>>59366412I wanted to add this but it made my post get flagged as spam (???) for some reason:Meme of small indie company and all that, I know, but GF's refusal to grow to Triple A standards is the result of them having to act like a small dev, and at least for their CURRENT state, it would be too much to make every city in the game look like Lumiose.
>>59366412I meant more that Lumiose still looks low quality despite all the effort being put into the city. But yeah that's more a complaint on aesthetics than just size I guess. Balloonlea actually looks great I think outside the small size
>>59364268Yeah, this is why Gen 5 looks awful. They started using 3D for the overworld so your brain can't fill in the details anymore and it just ends up looking retarded.
>>59364268Dunno, JRPGs have managed to have decently-sized cities since the PSX.
>>59366473gen 5 feels like a long lost psx game and I love it for that. Way more interesting than the gen 4 aesthetic.
>>59366481Seconded.
>>59364268gen 6 feels like a long lost psx game and I love it for that. Way more interesting than the gen 4 aesthetic.
>>59366508Seconded.
>>59366403lumiose sucked ass
>>59366473>>59366508>>59366578hi yawnfag
>>59366473That looks good though. It feels like a big city. None of the 3D games have managed to pull off the same feeling of a big city.
>>59364268That looks good though. It feels like a small village. None of the 2D games have managed to pull off the same feeling of a small village.
>>59367292>That looks good thoughOh, so OP is just wrong then
>>59367299>ah-hah! gotcha! i win i win i win!Nah, fuck off you disingenuous retard. It's obvious the OP was referring to the latest few gens where you have full camera control.
>>59367321>It’s obvious OP was referring to something that completely contradicts what he said
>>59367340>explicitly states that the GBA/DS games make large cities work>gen 5 was on the DS>"nooooo you're supposed to instantly fold i pulled a fallacious gotcha that means you lose!"Again, fuck off you disingenuous retard. You're far too stupid to pull off what you're trying to do.
>>59364268"Town" and it's just a shithole with two houses lmao Pokecucks really do care about spectable more than substance
>>59367368>explicitly states that the GBA/DS games make large cities workYes, Emerald and Platinum made large cities work. Gen 5 didn’t, since it’s 3D. OP said cities don’t scale well into 3D. Why don’t you read what OP actually said instead of what you wish he said?
Any reasonable human would read what OP said and infer "3D" as the newer gens that give you full camera control, not specifically any game that has a 3D model present. Shut the fuck up you disingenuous retard. You're done.
>>59367398>Any reasonable human would read what OP said and infer "3D" as the newer gens that give you full camera control, The image he posted is a town that doesn’t give you full camera control, retard.
>>59367398>Any reasonable human would read what OP said and infer "3D" as [thing that's not remotely what OP said that I just made up]
>>59367408>>59367410>retard lacks reading comprehensionI'm just going to accept your concession here and move on with my day because you're incapable of having an honest discussion. Go ahead and regurgitate your same non-arguments again.
>>59367444>thinks OP meant something completely different than what he posted>accuses others of lacking reading comprehension >declares he won even though he blatantly shat himselfsagefag moment
>>59364268GF sucks at making games even under the best of conditions. Embracing open-world slop has only made it worse when even competent developers struggle to make towns feel alive in those games, so of course GF is hopeless at it.
>>59364268I love this town
