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I don't understand what he means.
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switch 2 isn't getting hacked
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>>59370852
It'll happen eventually. I'm gonna say that by 2029, some eshop slop will have a vulnerability that cracks it open.
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>>59370852
Remember when people used to say that about the Switch? And the 3DS before that?
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>>59370862
>>59370879
retard
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>>59370839
Capture card + microcontroller for RNG manipulation because there are no hacks for the Switch 2, so Pkhex will not work and cannot generate Pokemon.
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>>59370852
You're telling me "HENTAI PUZZLE 6" and other ai slop ISNT a great vector to hack the switch 2 from?
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>>59370879
Switch was blown wide open at this point in its lifetime, and 3DS was only a matter of time
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>>59370852
In my discord we already figured out how to hack in and we won't be sharing it
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Imagine the meltdown on /v/ once the Switch 2 is hacked.
The userland exploit already rustled a few jimmies.
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>>59370879
No? people were warning Nintendo about the hardware they KNEW had as vulnerability in and still went and green lit it, everyone knew the switch was getting hacked.
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>>59370900
that's not cheating though
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>>59370852
You can transfer ditto and other pokes from s1 to s2 with home
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>>59370839
Why does a single person on this planet give a shit if someone else hacks their own console?
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>>59370839
What's the point of cheating now anyway? Getting a Pokemon exactly how you want it is completely trivial now.
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>>59371299
Switch was a colossal hardware blunder that the switch 2 doesn't have.
It took like seven years to crack the 3DS, strap in kiddies.
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>>59372691
The Switch actually has rather robust security, it was just several critical flaws with the original model which enabled cracking it, and thus decrypting the game files, allowing them to be ripped and played on emulator. There's a reason that when people say "hack your Switch", the usual response is "get an original version if you want to do that".

People just got waaaay too familiar with that era of gaming, with the end of the 3DS and fully-developed piracy and emulators, and the Switch piracy scene in full-force. The justification of "I want game preservation" was just cope, the vast majority of people used it for piracy.
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>>59373101
Game preservation is always just cover for people wanting free games. It just lets YouTubers push it in an algorithm friendly way. It just so happens that Nintendo games are the only ones people give a shit about pirating, since they aren't officially available in huge swathes of the world and their brands eclipse 99% of those of their competitors. I can't really blame them either since pirating DS games was completely trivial.
That said there's definitely a divide between what kids/nerds are exposed to and reality. I don't doubt the switch 2 will be eventually hacked, but the switch 1 hack were more just Nintendo being stupid and deciding the hardware level vulnerabilities weren't a big deal. Nerds celebrating free games like an ethical act of rebellion is a totally different conversation. It's the seasoning on the cringe soup.
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>>59373226
If people just shut up about it Nintendo wouldn't have gone as nuclear as they did. It's baffling that people wanted to shoot themselves in the foot by bragging about pirating, datamining, and emulating Tears of the Kingdom a full week before its official release date, and Kotaku outright telling people how to pirate Metroid Dread. Why the fuck did they think that was a good idea?
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>>59373258
Clicks, and it works. The amount of seething, apoplectic rage directed at Nintendo properties on the Internet is a hilarious phenomenon that drives engagement without fail. Post "fuck nintendo" on any app and collect upvotes. Nintendo is an actually Japanese company unlike Sony, so there's more of a culture gap there too. The amount of people actually emulating is still fairly small, which makes it all doubly frustrating.
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Who need cheating with modern day pokemon?
Hell even with champions you don't need to find specific pokemon anymore.
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>>59373342
You would be surprised at the extent people go through to be lazy. Gamefreak made building competitive Pokemon in SV as easy as it's ever been and people still chose to inject, and normalfags scoffed at the prospect of going through that (relatively simple) process to make raidmons for Tera Raids.
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>>59370900
Can't RNG abuse if you don't know the RNG algorithms the game uses. Literally every single game since Gen5 has only been abusable because people have looked at the game code in detail.
>>59373342
Look at the Floette situation for Champions, then imagine a Winds/Waves exclusive legendary (that requires playing the full game) without being able to be generated and distributed by the community to ease demand.
It will be glorious
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>>59373342
Join a raid in Scarlet and Violet right now. All your teammates will be using hacked mons with the names of websites.
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>>59373829
>Can't RNG abuse if you don't know the RNG algorithms the game uses. Literally every single game since Gen5 has only been abusable because people have looked at the game code in detail.
only exception to this i can think of is gen 9 raids which are brute forced by bots instead of rng'd
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>>59370839
I don't care about any cheating shit.
I just want my datamine. It's depressing that we'll have to rely on official guides.

inb4 like the good ol' times
Bullshit. In good ol' Gameboy times we had datamined data since like ever. Just not everybody had web connection.
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>>59374336
Dataminers deserve nothing.
Fucking spoilsports ruining everything for everyone.
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>>59374360
Nobody forces you to read spoilers.

And not being able to dump graphics (enjoy your shit quality screenshots) or data harms everybody.
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>>59374575
>Nobody forces you to read spoilers.
You know goddamn well this isn't true. The moment a game gets datamined everything will get spoiled to Youtube and shortform social media, which gets algorithmically shared everywhere until you inevitably see it by accident.
Fuck that, and fuck you for suggesting datamining is worth that.

>And not being able to dump graphics (enjoy your shit quality screenshots) or data harms everybody.
It does not. Let people be surprised, it's FAR more fun that way.
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>>59370852
Just like how the 3DS wasn't getting hacked and XY was supposed to be a "pure clean slate", right?
Nigga please, Pokemon invites hackers to give it their all.
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>>59370852
Even if it never gets a software exploit, modchips are only a matter of time.
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>>59373346
>Gamefreak made building competitive Pokemon in SV as easy as it's ever been and people still chose to inject
They made building SOME Pokemon easy. A physical attacker? No problem, done in a couple minutes including the time to hatch the egg. A trick room special attacker legendary like Cresselia? Better get comfy, it could take hours. Perfect min speed Ursaluna BM? Better get real comfy, it will take days.
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>>59374603
>It does not. Let people be surprised, it's FAR more fun that way.
I have more fun when I know about things ahead of time. Not everyone is the same.
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>>59375125
Your brand of "fun" makes things unfun for everyone else.
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>>59374620
The 3DS was built off the DS framework, which was pirated to fuck. The Switch launched with a severe hardware exploit that allowed it to be broken open. Not only is there not a retard-level trick or exploit to work on, ALL of the dataminer faggot names of the last 16-ish years have all to a woman announced their "retirement" from the scene in the near future. Because they all know the odds of a system break being found by launch is laughably slim.
When kids who've been seeking attention for their codingz and allowing people to hack pokémon badly using their shit suddenly turn around and say "o-oh we're done, yeah. We grew too old to hack kids' games, yeah", it's because they can't actually easily play about in the code any longer to do so, not because they had a change of heart or grew up finally. You'll learn.
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>>59370879
Its funny in retrospect how easy the 3DS was. Kept finding obscure glitches to exploit in specific games, then one game that was super broken and became expensive only because of being used to hack, and then the holy grail Nintendo didn't correctly limit folder names within the built-in music app thus allowing arbitrary code with no game needed
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>>59375185
Bro forgot about the initial holy grail of nintendo fucking up displaying the DS username in the settings app, so a DS flashcard could be used to modify it. For a while the meta was downgrading to the firmware version where this was exploitable, or downgrading the settings app specifically. It's just that the custom firmware community was very underdeveloped and hush hush at this point, with the only "viable" option for piracy being an expensive Gateway dongle. rxTools was around at this time but didn't allow piracy out of morality.

The real holy grail was the custom theme/home menu exploit of 9.2, allowing an exploit to trigger whenever the console was started. Later this moved up the stack by exploiting the n3ds kernel with arm9loaderhax, and even further by exploiting the bootrom directly with sighax and boot9strap, which persists today.
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The real reason we won't get switch 2 exploits isn't security. When there's a will, there's a way, as can be seen with the copious amounts of hardmod-based switch mods.

It's that the switch 2 just has nothing going for it. The 3ds was saved by novelty and the still massive hacking community of the ds and wii era, and the switch introduced a great form factor that hackers wanted to use for more than just nintendo games. Nowadays, with options like the steam deck, and given the switch 2 doesn't add anything of note to the hardware, hackers are largely satisfied. There will be some stragglers still researching switch 2 out of love for the craft, but it really needs a miracle to happen.
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>>59375541 (Me)
And I should add that young hackers of today have a vastly bigger and more exiting myriad of devices to autistically research every hidden detail about and modify to do their bidding, such as VR goggles, mobile phones and M-series macbooks (seriously, the efforts being made to further macbook research vastly outpaces any console hacking today). And outside of the hardware world, many of them are pulling apart and researching/decomping old games instead.

Consoles are just so unc now.
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>>59375541
switch used off the shelf parts which had known security issues, switch 2 is custom made for Nintendo, sciresm has been saying since like 2019 that future hardware was going to be hard to crack and the os is very secure where they haven't found more exploits for the switch
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>>59375559
Yes, it being much harder now also compounds with hackers just not being very excited about it, to make it even more unlikely. Still, if there was enough interest, people would eventually manage.

I expect it to go like the DSi in that it didn't get significant homebrew development until way after the end of its lifespan.



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