Exposed Trainer Belly EditionPokémon Champions is a free to play online battle simulator available on Switch with a mobile release later. It features ranked, casual and private battles for both singles and doubles, and will be used for VGC tournaments in 2026.>NewsPokemon Champions is out on mobile devicesRegulation M-B has begun, bringing in a new wave of Pokémon, items, and cosmetics.Enter HAJ1MAR1G1FT for a free 100 Quick Coupons>Resources and useful linksCommunity Tournaments usage data: https://pikalytics.com/Ladder usage data: https://pokechamdb.com/enNew Player Guide(NEW PEOPLE READ THIS):https://rentry.org/pcg-guide (now taking suggestions and feedback)Quick FAQ>Do I need my own Pokémon to play?No, the game features a recruitment system, but transferring from Home is recommended to save time and resources.>What makes the game so much more accessible than before?All aspects of a Pokémon are customizable with VP, a currency earned simply by playing the game. IVs are also removed.Ask in the thread if you want any specific Pokémon, and someone will respond.>Is there single player content?No.>Do I need a Nintendo Online subscription?No.>What's the starter pack?US$6.99 one time purchase for 50 training tickets (fully train for free), 30 Teammate Tickets (recruit Pokemon without using VP), 50 extra box space and the LGPE trainer music.>Is anything locked behind a paywall?So far everything gameplay relevant is also purchasable with VP. E-Floette requires a ZA transfer.>/pcg/ OP pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/d2FJZdPh Previous: >>59370512
arbok owns mega staraptor think about it
Shit Game
>>59372908wrong general
I started last night, this is my team so far. Strategy ideally is turn 1 Whimsicot tailwind and then turn 2 fake tears before I nuke something with Elektross to activate beast boost and then snowball.Thoughts on the team comp? So far it’s gotten me to great ball 4 undefeated. I’m a lifelong showdown singles and difficulty hack player, new to vgc format
Thinking about messing with Toucannon this season, does Beak blast murder Staraptor?
>>59372899Agreed. Conceptually the game is good and the replayability is there because it’s competitive Pokemon but everything else is unfathomably low effort. I can understand the graphics being stunted by the desire to have the game run well on mobile but the animations are bare minimum. Trainer designer is bare minimum. Content drip feed is at a snails pace. They’re going to need to make some serious changes to keep engagement past 1-2 years.
>>59372908holy KEKED
>>59372948it trolls it decently if its partner doesn't pick it off before
>>59373003VGC has always worked this way since the last year of Gen 7. You get a new Regulation and it lasts for two to four months before the rules change again.
Has anyone been able to purchase the Starter Pack for Mobile?
>>59373036>vgc has always been low effortNo need to state the obvious there
>>59372927Drop Thunder Fang for Ice Fang on Aerodactyl. SE Non STAB Thunder Fang is hitting for effectively 130. STAB neutral Dual Wingbeat is hitting for 120; a less than 10% difference. Meanwhile, Ice Fang is x4 SE against Garchomp, one of the most common Pokemon in the format right now. It won't OHKO, but it will do a lot of damage.
>>59372927Aero is the second fastest non-meta in the game so I don't think you really need it to be scarfed
>>59373038login on a switch display unit at a store and buy it
>>59372927you got 4 meta beasts and 2 weirdos (the megas)Problems will become apparent soon. The way i would play eel is double immunity spread move spam, discharge + eq from a partner. Anyway your strat is cool but the dragon / steel coverage feels really weird especially when both Floette and Sylveon take flash cannon at + 1. Whimsicott could be dealt with by Flamethrower which is a move that also hits gambit, sinistea, and gets boosted by the ever present zardy.Dragon pulse could be ok because your team is weak to chomp otherwise.Dragalge is just... idk. Slow, not strong enough, what does it even do here? Id change it for a stronger mega as it doesn't have the right support in this team.Scarf aero is also unusual but could troll in some matchups
>>59373046Two months is already too fast format. We were still seeing meta developments going into NAIC with Lycanroc and Kleavor. Four months is the sweet spot. Long enough for a meta to develop and settle. It's annoying having to relearn the game four or five times a year.
Finally encountered doubles perishtrap in-person for the first time. Absolutely fucking cancer. Literally why put so many restrictions on other pokemon but allow dogshit like that. The worst part is that I could've MAYBE countered it if I brought in different pokemon than I did, but that really sucks the fun out of the game completely.
>>59372892more like Pokemon Stinkypussy Champion
>>59372908The bowser gets clever fangame but you're the translator applying tactical censorship
>>59373077Humbly disagree, there was a clear dominant team and the meta was becoming circular.It's why we saw Zard+Venu return at Indy despite only being big week 1, and why Zard+Aero made a big comeback at NAIC despite having been unfashionable since the beginning of the second MA season.
Is there a large amount of info on trick room for the current season? I love it and want to know who are the best users of it, who to have on the team, etc.Also, if I started on mobile, could I download this on switch and log on it - on the same account?
[Sad News]Aaron shared a Staraptor team
I just realised my ZardY had the same evs and natures since I chose it. 252 adamant kek. It was still so strong I didn't even notice it 20 battles deep
>>59373130Great, now I can properly prepare against it.
>>59372892The smell of those spats could clear a room
So, where are the TERRAIN WARS that all those memetubers hyped so much? Kek
I made a Counter & Mirror Coat troll set for my Swampert.
So do I really have to walk around like an idiot to catch pokemon in pokemon GO? I just want more easy pokemon for champions without letting people know im a greasy 30 year old virgin neckbeard hunting down imaginary children toys.
The battle pass is such a scam. It should include Canari's battle theme and her dyn4m0 pose or something if they want $9.99 for it.
>>59373168Just buy one of the new games my dude.
>>59373173I know, I really want that jacket but I can't reasonably justify 10 bucks for it when the rest is such a fat sack of nothing.
>>59373173it should include a gender change so I can slut it up
>>59373173Her song's in the subscription.
>>59373168Just tell people you're only playing the game to train combat drones.
>>59373127pls respond, am i bricking my initial first team and vp investment if I go tr?
>>59373127>Is there a large amount of info on trick room for the current season?The current season started one day ago.
>>59373168Why do you even care what other people think?
>>59373127>>59373184Farigiraf is the best user of TR. Oranguru is also pretty solid. You aren't bricking your account since resources are so easy to acquire.I'm pretty sure so long as your mobile account is connected to your Nintendo, you should be able to play on either device no problem.
>>59373192Thanks. I will spam all my encounters and try for one of those two then, and research a good central pokemon for tr.
>>59373194Just make sure you team has answers to opposing Farig and all your eggs aren't in the TR basket. Have one or two speedier Pokemon to weaken teams or as backups so your TR can clean up.
I need an in game battle frontier>in game rental factory dynamax cavern arcade modeAnd tripple and rotation battles
>>59373203>Triple battles
>>59373076Dragalge seems like a good answer to fairy. I also just really like the design. I was following the meta a little before the game released on mobile and it was kinda boring to me so I’m trying to be a little creative, lol. That’s a good shout to give elektross a fire move. Double immunity spread is also a really good idea but that would be the end of my little gimmick so for now it will stay on the back burner. Aero is just the sixth slot filled in with what I have in the box for now. The other anon rightly suggested ice fang for him. Thanks for the input
>>59373201That's interesting, as in you don't always throw up tr instantly? Would a pokemon to counter farig be something that can kill it right away? Or a non pranker taunter that can maybe 2hko?
>>59373218No, it's that TR is the easiest shit to sus out from team preview and your opponent will take the appropriate steps to counter it. You can try to set up TR, but if you don't because your enemy nukes Farig or whatever else is trying to set it up, you're massively outsped and more likely to use after that point. Either of those work, yeah.
>>59373203we need stadium minigames
There's so little team building because you know you'll just be up against Charizard teams or Raichu Teams What a boring game
>>59373177>Just buy one of the new games my dude.Im never gonna buy Nintendo over priced switches.>>59373190>Why do you even care what other people think?Because id like to have kids one dayAnyways you don't get penalized by driving around in a car right? Cause I know there idea is to get you walking
>>59373203>>59373230this game needs a fucking lot, last season got so fucking boring and I expect this season to follow suit>>59373270>There's so little team buildingFucking This
>decide to play the game as a ftp mobile andy>no HOME or switch transfers, no spending in the cash shop>pick the TTar team and go through the motions>First recruitment has Aerodactyl>go and do the tutorial battles for all the shit and use the 3 free partner tickets>First free pull: Sneasler the teeny>Second pull has Sinistcha>Third pull has Charizard>random pull after has GholdengoThank you Gamefreak
>>59373102Just kill the gengar homie do you not have garchomp?
This fag any good? The skill does sound fun
>>59373298He's honestly pretty decent. I've never been sold on Icy Wind for speed control, but even just baiting out a CC or Shadow Ball on something is like instant serotonin. Spamming Hyper Voice is usually enough to turn the tides on specific matchups too.
>>59373281They just need to copy the frontier modes and give badges to display on profiles for completing them + ribbons
>>59373156rilla is still the only real non legendary terrain setter
>>59373298He's good at catching people off-guard for those who are not paying attentionSomeone sent out their incineroar but intimidate didn't happenNot paying attention, I threw out a water move at it, only to realize it was this fag
>>59373317I have my raichu xIIf a kind anon would trade me psychic terrain abusers I would try that team.Is alakazam good in this game?
>>59373317Indeedee isn't legendary
Big fan of that miraidon/staraptor gif
QUICK CLAW
>>59373351post it
Did basculegion really need bulk
Screen set-up really feels like Ass
>top showdown vgc>look inside>its the same basic bitch zard teamSasugahttps://pokepast.es/763f4b8b36337f1d
>>59373381https://x.com/sanvyvgc/status/2067539159812644918
Took this basic unga-synergy Sceptile offense team to Ultra yesterday. Any way I can refine this? I have been thoroughly alerted of my Whimsicott weakness by matchmaking.
What's the general Starapter build
>>59373451physical sweeper, intimidate, mega stonebrave bird close combat protect
>>59373451Close CombatBrave BirdRoostProtectSome will replace either Roost or Protect with Tailwind.
>>59373438kek
I haven't found many staraptors at all climbing from Poke ball to Ultra 3. Is Master where they flock or?
>>59373469Im 1731 right now most of the teams im facing have staraptor on them but sometimes its a bluff
>>59373441>Protect Leftovers SableyeWhat do you need Sableye to stick around for?
>>59373293On that specific team I did not, no.
>>59373441How exactly is Whim giving you trouble with Metagross and Aero? I'm also not sure Sableye is really doing much for your team. You already have Taunt on Aero, and Wisp is nice but I'm not sure it really warrants a whole pokemon. This is what I'm running for my Sceptile team.
>>59373399Basculegion being so fucking fast and bulky is what makes it amazing and scary.
>>59373469I just went against a staraptor whimsicott team with my lead of corviknight sylveonstaraptor used CC with a +2 on corvi, he tanked it with like 3 hp remaining (it's a very tanky build and I lucked out), and then my sylveon vaporized that bird with one hyper beam; he forfeited after that
Me when I win>get rekt faggot, you’re a bot. Game Freak, send me a real challenge, I’m a Pokemon Master!!1!Me when I lose>fuck you nigger cheater, fuck your shiny mons, fuck this retarded meta
>>59373102I managed to win, the perish tranny (according to the avatar) didn't really know how to play it well enough. It's very frustrating but you have about 2 full turns to put down Gengar. Spread moves help a lot since Tea is always there as well
Ooo masonic
Daaamn i need a garchomp and it doesnt appear in the good ol ranch
>>59373558My ranch pulls are just different Houndoms and Arcanines over and overGIVE ME ONE GOOD MON
This game's gonna be nuts when there are megas and dynamax and tera
>>59373558I could give you one on home
>>59373572it'll be dead by then unless something changes
>>59373498>How exactly is Whim giving you trouble with Metagross and Aero?I have really piss luck in regards to keeping Aero alive past the first couple of turns. Sash is a recent addition because originally it was White Herb for Incin and I now realize I'm pretty good on dealing with it.>Wisp is nice but I'm not sure it really warrants a whole pokemon.It's there to shut down other Pranksters. Honestly I was blanking on a move slot so I ended up settling on Will o Wisp. The one game Sitting down and thinking on it just remembered Quash exists so it's probably getting replaced.
So can I farm VP endlessly as long as I battle or is there a limit?
>>59373579Theyre smart to make this season 20 days theyre slowly building the trve mega meta season by season so new teams and strategies can get made then in rhe next season they can do it again with rhe next set constant dopamine drip
>>59373584I don't think there's a limit.
>Garchomp faster than my Greninja What is the point of this stupid fucking frog How are you losing speed battles to a fucking Bulky Dragon
>>59373596Scarf bro
>>59373596Scarf is a helluva drug.
>>59373596Greninja is just not very good
How do I get mons if I have no friends? I read a guide that said you catch them on Go and then do GTS trades but catching on Go seems super time consuming as well
>>59373626 pt2Are there discords where people just give out free mons from the kindness of their hearts?
>>59373626catching any trade fodder in GO takes seconds
>>59373634But do people really accept any bullshit mon in exchange for something competitive like a Garchomp? I have a pikachu in my account and I wanted a sinistcha but nobody was trading for that
>>59373641All I get in wonder trades are breedjects and only Eternal Floette matters
>mega starraptor gets contrarySweet jesus I should read what the new megas do
>>59373643I’m probably just retarded but I don’t understand how wondertrade works anymore. In the olde days you would just click the mon, send it away, and get something random back from the aether but now there’s some button or something I’m not seeing to initiate the trade
>>59373596Greninja is pretty shit, also it was scarfed
>>59373573What do you need, anon
>pyroar is kinda okI guess they finally threw the poor thing a bone even if it's vaguely diet charizardEither diet charizard or fast torkoal
reminder to jams that it is your pick >>59372486
i fucking hate metaslaving but im having a hard time dealing with contrary bird, y and raichu. what beats this shit man im not smart enough
>>59373209They did show it off in Champions before launch, like a lot of things. But we haven't gotten the ability to do triple battles yet.
>>59373706there is a reason why we all like cybertron in this general>https://youtu.be/ES4APGm7KPw?si=h6NclB7DwX5fcMBH
>>59373717What is the website that is showing that info in the pic?
>>59373626>How do I get mons if I have no friends?The fastest way is trading them into Home. Either by yourself using the mainline games, or from Go.>>59373631>Are there discords where people just give out free mons from the kindness of their hearts?Nigga I give out eternal floettes like candy. I wrote in both the OP and in the guide to just ask. Literally just ask here. Doesnt matter what you want, Gholdengo, basculegion, floette, all of them are free>>59373641>But do people really accept any bullshit mon in exchange for something competitive like a Garchomp?yes.Whats the point of genning mons if you cant give it away?>>59373649>I don’t understand how wondertrade works anymorechoose all your three mons, then bottom left button, deposit
>>59373717what is teaghosts purpose in tr? just general support from the back? leading farig + mmawile? thats kind of insane because i was going to make a tr team with mawile and trick room.
Why is singles 3v3 isn't this just retarded? Like why would they have this instead of 6v6?
>>59373717I am a new mobile player so I have to abuse the flavor of the week Starapter to get up the ranks.Does anyone know what the best slogan ninetails setup in duos is?
>need some information>try smogon>go to their list of pokemon in champions >as a guest user, no account all default settings>for some reason it displays a bunch of corny op fanfiction monsters why would anyone take smogon seriously if this is how they present themselves?
>>59373724no idea. Nowhere does he share where he makes the graphics.Would love to use his template and put it in the guide, but alas.>>59373732You can just check what moves is most common and intuit his role>https://pikalytics.com/pokedex/battledataregmbs3/Sinistcha?l=enHe reduces enemies attack with strength sap and matcha gotcha burns, and redirects attacks away with rage powder>>59373737technically 6v6 is the slowest format because of the amount of mons you have to fight through to win. In a casual phone game it makes more sense to have BSS instead of actual Singles because 1) its a lot faster since there is less advantages to stalling (people still play stall in this, cheeky cunts), and 2) BSS is sort of the campaignshitter appeasement format. For joe generic who just finished playing Sword after not playing pokemon in ten years, doubles is a bit daunting, and having the enemy cycle a full six stack of pokemon while fighting hazards is kind of cancer. BSS is the middle ground.
>>59373744You can use the team builder on Showdown to check things out, even without an account. They have reg M-A and M-B on there
>>59373717How does a team so weak to fire fight zardy?
>i put this up looking for an Incinaroar if anyone here has one
>>59373741generally the function of Mons dont really change between teams, outside of dedicated supportmons.For instance a good set for Kingambit in X team will be either the same or similar enough in Y team. The only instance of this changing is for supportmons, so sableye in a dedicated rain team is different than in a gravity setup team.Basically what im trying to say is, just try and look for any team on youtube or whatever which uses Ninetales and its probably 90% good enough for any team.I got this ninetales set from this video>https://youtu.be/y1XIulSqPqo?si=ZV1BGQqK6JCf_-rJ
>>59373741Misty terrain is kinda shit. Well, no the terrain itself is fine but manually setting terrain sucks ass. Its the same as why not many teams manually set weather. Its just a waste of a turn.Something like disable, hypnosis or encore would probably be better.Encore is probably the most reasonable, you encore people who dare protect in your presence.Icy wind is also an option for speed control.
>>59373784It depends how you define a waste of a turn. If you whimsicott misty terrain in front of a willowisp sableye you just wasted their turn
>>59373788I supposeHowever in a more likely scenario you wasted a turn while sableye clicked reflect or light screen and you just lost whimsicott's partner.So you're 3-4 and your opponent is defensed up.
>>59373729> I wrote in both the OP and in the guide to just ask. Literally just ask hereI didn’t see that in the op and I didn’t read the “new player guide” because I’m an oldfag pkmn guy who played every game on console except gen 9. It looks like you put a lot of effort into that writeup so I will give it a read. Kind anon, may I have some competitive mons, please?
>>59373805>Kind anon, may I have some competitive mons, please?yeah sure just ask and ye shall receive>>59373772Sent :)
I misclicked and selected brave bird instead of cloae combat on Mega Raichu, and it just tore through that mouse
>>59373815I would like a sinistcha and an eternal floette that can mega, if possible. How does this work, do you need a friend code for pkmn home?
>>59373815Ty anon <3
>>59373817Im trying out stunfisk with fissure to hard stop raichu y
>>59373840Ive explained it in the guide, but to repeat it.Download Pokemon Home in your phone first, then.Deposit a pokemon into the GTS. Could literally be anything, and either give it a funny name, or screenshot it, just so i know it is you. This anon (>>59373772) almost had it right, since if anyone else deposited a great tusk asking for incin, then i wouldnt know which is theirs.Bonus Tip: You get free Pokemon in Home by using the Wonder Trade and GTS, so I sort of suggest you throwing the free Pikachu in wonder trade first, and then trading whatever you got on GTS second, since this will get you the basic three mons as a start without ever depositing it from pokemon go or something.
>have mega-swampert and arch on the field>opponent has weakened metagross and zard on the field and has sun up.>think to myself I'll switch in pelipper for swampert>shit I forgot I didn't bring rainbirb, I'll just protect arch and EQ with swampert and hope I'll kill metagross>opponent switches in sneedler for zard>eq kills both metagross and sneed>now he only has zard leftThat could not have gone any better even if I wanted it kekI am surprised he didn't forfeit then and there.
>>59373854My wonder trades went through, and I just collected the extra goodies for linking Go as well. I listed a Japanese pinsir looking for floette and I changed the text box to “I want other languages”. I don’t think you can change the nickname from within Home. I don’t have a switch anymore and I’m doing everything from the mobile apps
AM I CURSED? IS THIS A CURSE? WHY DO I KEEP GETTING THESE NOTHING MONSI'M LIKE 30 ROLLS IN NO INCINEROARNO TYRANITARNOT EVEN A FUCKING MIMIKYUGET THESE FUCKING BUGS OFF OF MY SCREEEEEEN GO AWAY HERACROSS
>>59373883I don’t think this was you who sent this, was it? I realized there’s no option for eternal floette. Is that the only thing truly unobtainable without ZA? So much bullshit they make us go through to get mons because it’s the only way to make money on this game.
>>59373904>INCINEROAR>NO TYRANITAR>NOT EVEN A FUCKING MIMIKYUI'll give you all 3 bro
>>59373909>I realized there’s no option for eternal floette.There is.It is under forms.
>>59373883>>59373909no it wasnt, i tried refreshing but i guess someone sniped it.>I realized there’s no option for eternal floetteThere is, clock Form > Eternal Flower>Is that the only thing truly unobtainable without ZA? Right now? Yes>>59373904Bro, your elemental tickets?
>>59373918I see, thank you for your patience. I uploaded this paras for the sinistcha. Let’s start with that one and hopefully get it through, lol. Do you have a name you go by ITT or are you happy to just be anon? I really appreciate your time helping me learn this
>>59373925sent :)im just anon, dont worry about it
Staraptor more like Soiraptor
>>59373941I received it, thank you! >>59373917I’m not understanding though, are you able to gen a version of floette that will come with the mega stone for Champions or is that an impossibility?
>stalling for a draw in greatball tierfuuucking ass retards
mega metagross clefable hisuian typhlosion (lots of additional options for rest but probably tailwind setter) is the easiest climb from ultra to master ball since everyone is using staraptor grimmsnarl leads
>>59372892>New Player Guide(NEW PEOPLE READ THIS):>https://rentry.org/pcg-guide (now taking suggestions and feedback)Very good guide. Just, there are a lot of grammatical errors, if you even care about that.Examples:>using "is" instead of "are" a lot>using "have" instead of "has">words that don't need an s at the end, but they do have it. saying "deals" instead of "deal," when "deal" would have been correct for instance>awkward structuring of some sentences such as "on what do you value" instead of "on what you value"And some other shit. Of course, the goal wasn't to write a grammatically correct essay in perfect English or anything, so you might not give a fuck. The information itself makes this guide a great resource. The usage of "is" instead of "are" may read, to some, like a black ghetto person speaking. That and some of the other errors make it pretty clear that English isn't your first language, but that doesn't matter. The only reason I'm even bothering to tell you this is just in case you even care about any of that, but it's well done for a (pretty long) guide made for these /vp/ threads. I know the point was to just get the information out and I wouldn't blame you if you don't give a shit about the grammatical errors.
>>59373965it's about sending a message
>>59373975>I wouldn't blame you if you don't give a shit about the grammatical errors.And I just fucked this sentence up myself because I probably should have used "didn't" instead of "don't" kek
>>59373982please respect my time
>>59373716Crazy that the last time we saw triple battles was in ORAS technically Z-A too but it's three trainers vs wild megas
>>59373965>Opponent stalls out the timer even though they’re down to their last mon or two with no hope of winning>They’re always moonruners
>>59373968What moveset on the Clefable? The usual stuff (Follow Me, Helping Hand, Protect and an offensive move) or something different?
>>59373989>please respect my time
>when he brings out that dollar store archaludon with no SpD next to a pelipper and I have crisp, a ready to megaevolve raichu with lighting rod in my back pocket
>>59374020>Archaludon used earthquake!
>dual-shield snarl every other matchThat goblin is getting on my nerve
>>59374028Adapt with brick break sneasler and play the game as if you're 2v1 by negating all of snarl's support for the first 2 turns.
>>59374028Psychic Fangs. My Mawile misses Power-Up Punch but has been shitting on Grimmsnarl anyway
>>59374015this
>>59373649You deposit 3 Pokémon and check back in 1 hour. It apparently used to take 6 hours to do. Just shuffle through crap and check if it's wanted by going into GTS and wanted and trade up if it's better.
>>59374037>>59374038Guess I'm running Megagross so I can hit two birbs with one stone then
>>59374043Holy shit anon that team kinda rocks
What is the monthly series challenge for?
>>59374070uuuuuhhhhhhh to be the bestmobiletourists, i swear
>>59374070Mostly a timed ladder event for players to challenge themselves. You also get a cherise ball pokemon after doing a minimum of 3 battles in that event
I want to do a TR team, what is the core of that besides setter and matchageist? I kind of like mawile but don't understand how the fuck i'd handle zard-Y
>>59374088Wile has rock slide
God fuck I hate megas I’m so uninspired by this>ummmm you have to include one of these Gamefreak approved Pokemon or you’re not allowed to play!Bullshit
>>59374082>singlesShit I don't actually have a team built for singles nor do I really know how to play 3v3. Tyranitar is good right? I don't have one of this yet. Can I or should I just forfeit or sandbag in 3 matches just for the rewards?
>>59374100you can just sandbag and still get the rewards
>>59373744I forgot CAP format was a thing.
>>59374098Yea but it seems really hard to drop ironhead for it. Play rough and sucker punch seem like essentials.
>>59372892This isn't an edit?
Niggurmon Niggurpions
>>59374113I'm finding Fairy attacks are actually really flexible with a lot of Pokémon having access to one or two options. Sometimes having something unexpected is better than having what the best tier moveset is on paper.
>>59374100I don't know if Sand is still good now, T-tar is still one of the better setters since it can override other weathers with mega. At worst you can release it for some VP (due to cherish ball)
What happened to meganium? you fuckers told me it was going to be le meta defining mon with a signature ability
>>59374128that was literally just the meganium schizo who had a typhlosion inferiority complex
>>59374099aren't all pokemon gamefreak approved?
>>59374128It had ok placements in MA but Charizard was too omnipresent and mega Metagross/Goldengo have cemented its death
If someone leads torkoal and someone leads pelipper what happens?
>>59374128People play with their favorites and when you're the defacto worst choice available for over 25 years, it's going to take time to build up goodwill with people. time and tangible results mega meganium made a good first impression, from here time will tell
>>59374140Abilities always resolve in order of speed so it will be sunny since Torkoals ability goes last
>>59374140there's actually a lot of new players here to ask questions, wow. Their abilities activate in order of speed so usually Torkoal will set last.
>>59374099Honestly save for a certain few, most megas are just worse than most of the available gen 9 pokemon
>>59374099To be fair, there are times where I didn't send sortie out any of my mega pokemon since the other 4 can do the job
>>59374140it doesnt matter because torkoal in a match with pelliper is fucking doomed usually and lost at mon selectslower goes last and gets weather prio tho
>>59374128Sorry dude Meganium is too much of a shitmon even with a mega form
>>59374128It legit suffers due to Floette being good
>>59374113Play rough hits really hard on. Basically everything you would need to his with steel. Steels more defensive typing for mawile
>>59374128>>59374179Yes people would rather take the easy youtuber floette build than pick up meganium and learn how to make a team around it. I feel like half the joy in pokemon is experimenting with new pokemon and learning new compositions for yourself. That way you actually learn the game instead of just learning how to pilot X team in X way
So did they exclude the starter bundle from mobile to force phonefags to purchase the scam 50$ subscription for more box space?
is the BaraTigerOfHealtyMeta still as annoying?
>>59374203With one contrary pokemon that can hunt it down being meta? You might have less reason to send it out
>>59374043Maybe it’s just that time of day where I am but I tried this team for 5 games in UB1 and didn’t encounter a single team with Staraptor on it. Played okay but nowhere near as proficient with it as I am with TR teams.
>>59374238Most of the Staraptor teams I encountered in my climb to masters were Japanese players. Everyone else used template sub, rain or trick room teams.
Who got that chlorophyll + rain dance or swift swim + sunny day
>>59374203Incin has been way less present in MA.MB is even less friendly.
>>59374043Didn't expect a Bellibolt without Parabolic Charge. What's its function?
What poke do i use to demolish garchomp in singles? Seems like everyone uses it.
>>59374270Best one will be Corviknight since it can wall it for days
>>59374270Garchomp
Keep it 100, how shit is this
>>59374270Scarf snow doge
>>59374270Do the worm
>>59373975>>59373986Thanks for the feedback.Yeah english isnt my first language. Honestly, I dont care about how accurate the grammar was, so long as its legible and gets the point across. One of the main issues I had was that Id write a full paragraph, move onto another section, but ideas on how to improve the previous section would come up. So id just throw whatever shit I thought up of above, before continue writing, ignoring whether it sounds janky or not. One of the reasons why it has so many mistakes with writing the guide is that 95% of the text had to be original. Initially I just wanted to summarise a bunch of smogon posts, but the more i read them, the more I found out most of the guides there are circlejerks meant for people who already knew the intricacies of Gen 5 UU meta or whatever. For a baby's first guide, there really isnt much to go off of other than youtube videos and vgcguides (to which i already expressed my displeasure of it since its just very obtuse). So yeah basically the issues mainly comes from the fact that i have to write it all from scratch, with very little material to go off of. Not even AI could have helped me. Funnily enough one anon accused me of just AI genning the guide, which was pretty insulting
>mega meta is the meta megaWoah
>>59374301Shouldn't sineastea be Whimsycotton for tickle, fake tears, tailwind, for MegaStarapture.
The honeymoon period is starting to fade...
>>59373046Any meta lasting less than 4 months is worthless unless you're a rush to masterball and ignore the game dopamine addicted adhd monkey.
>>59374374Game has never been more alive than right now
>>59373156Where are the terrain setters? Dumb fuck.
>>59374082I like cherish ball mons as a mobile player
>>59373003>Trainer designer is bare minimumI hate this so much. They already ripped the Pokemon models from the main games, is it too much to ask for more than 1 model and another model with a slightly rounder chest? They could even pull the npc trainer models from the games and let you customize those. I want to be a ORAS Lass.
>>59374403See you in a week
>Dragonite survives a crit stone edge from my tyranitar and he ice beams for the winSo how's your ranked been?
>>59374409Like the wifi club above pokemon centers.Or Showdown..
>>59373596>not running king's rock water shuriken to flinch the chomp
>>59374253just shenanigans with the serperior. boosting him up, making enemies weak to him. I basically never bring it desu. better results would probably be some weather slave.
>>59374416Rent free
>>59374238great ball (lol) was 90% staraptor grimmsnarl for me
>>59374422Wait.... Don't they have fully updated trainer models in Masters EX? What the fuck for they even do at ILCA?
>>59373904I hope you picked the Araquanid for the Swampert meta.
>>59374433Masters is a completely different jurisdiction. It's not even published by Pokémon Company. It's a licensed game to DeNA. Has nothing to do with ILCA.
>>59374148the sad irony is that I was actually in master ball and straight up never lead with two weather mons before and didn’t know how the interaction worked
mono type teams, or heavily weighted to one type, are genuinely really good
>>59374443Is it impossible to maybe ask to...I don't know... use the models?
>>59374203Too many KINGS out there counter the 400 bp fish so the little kitty doesn't even get a chance to shine.
>>59374139>>59374179You can't have anything good with this faggotshit troon franchise it seems.Shit games.Fossil Pokemon get fucked over.Meganium is subjugated to bullshit as always.Jewish DLC practices.Still standing strong with Sword being my last Pokeshit game.
>>59374458>it took him all the way to Sword to realize these games were trash
>>59374458Malding troon
Delphox is still based and is good in both starphox teams and raping opposing raptors
so whats the 1v1 strat? just hit hard and fast?
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrnVB102SMoso she got to masters when she didn't know literally jack shit? like she said she went to tournaments and got that far and doesn't know basic shit like even near the end of the video she didn't know what fucking bullet punch was. like how? how did she not see any of this getting to masters or at tournaments?
>>59374490>wondering why a lying cheating asian e-thot is lying and cheating
Where's muh nigga nidokang. I'm so mad. Guess I'll just keep using this in singles until I get hardstuck, then I'll try to rethink it
>>59374490Yeah she's retarded but the only tournament she had played before this was a literal hack tournament https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr3DGk97U-UThe only person who actually played vgc there was Freezai and he lost to spore Raikou
>>59374490It is not hard to reach master tier
>>59374504What was bro cooking??
>>59374505no she went to regionals in SV, she griefed the tournament by showing up to a on stream game with the wrong team
>>59374510You tell me. I barely got out of poke ball tier. Zoroark lead for memes works well down here since they always fall for it. Tyranitar and megachomp for sandstorm synergy. Whimsicott in case I need a taunt lead but haven't really used it all at. Garde in case I need a fairy and Scizor in case I need steel. Maybe I could replace one of them with mega maw or metagross. I dunno, still getting a feel for things and I know things will change once I move up.
>>59374489You try to counterpick your opponent while bringing your sweepers. Bring a pebble setter if you scout a Zard or Dragonite or if their team is weak to pebbles. Either Sash Garchomp or Glimmora does the job while being a menace.
>>59374518Unironically based. Why don't more people do this?
Whichever anon from the last thread posted the idea of Final Gambit Staraptor, you’re a genius
Is there a reason A-Ninetales isn’t used more often? She seems really good to me
>>59374520Give chomp LO, zoroark gets spelltag or something, if you want a second mega use ttarSee if that works better, I only read the first sentence btw
>>59374504I wanted Nidoking too as it’d be perfect for my TR team with all the coverage it has with Sheer Force Life Orb. Would also give me an excuse to use my shiny Moon Ball one from HG.
>>59374529Because you need to be running snow or weatherless. If its either of those she is used a bit assuming you don't have a better fairy (Floette, Sylveon)
>>59374529Regular weather setters like Ninetales or Torkoal aren't as strong when mega weather setters are in the format who always set their weather after yours.
I’m running weatherless, I was thinking that she might be better than Sylveon just because she outspeeds Garchomp
>>59374529The weather wars are a legitimate reason why it doesn’t see more play outside dedicated Blizzard spam teams. Sun has a reliable resetter in Whimsicott, Rain has it with Sableye and Sand has it (to a lesser extent) with M Tyranitar and Hippowdon. Combine that with A Ninetail’s Fairy typing, comparable stats to regular Ninetails (I.e. okay at best) and Megagross returning and it practically disappeared overnight. I’ll admit I had expected M Froslass to make a comeback with Megagross, M Staraptor and M Swampert running around now but it is still a glass cannon at the end of the day.
So what tournament we stealing teams from boys
What are good teammate options for Gholdengo?
>>59374548Anything, he's still a beast
>>59374270Bring in M-Chimecho. They'll never expect to see Chomp doing Chump damage to it.
>>59374530Oh? I thought mega chomp was the better choice. Faster, hits much harder with sand force, even faster in base even.
maxing the battle pass was sooooooo easy and fast
>>59374509yeah but you have to play a certain amount of matches still like how did this bitch not see bullet punch 1 time or know wtf was going on at all
>another rock type mega with tough clawswhats even the point? the majority of rock moves aren't contact, and the ones that do contact are either signature moves that only 1 pokemon get or dogshit like rollout. even the coverage moves you'll want to run like earthquake aren't contact. it's literally just a 30% boost to close combat and thats it.
>>59374557Yeah it’s no different to the first two season’s BPs. I don’t think we’ll see any meaningful change to them until S6 given ILCA said it takes about 3-ish months to import new things into the game. Still miffed there were no new outfits or songs for me to spend my VP on.
>>59374564>it takes about 3-ish months to import new things into the gameare they fucking retarded?
this retarded blunder stream is funny as fuck
>>59374569we love blunder here
>>59374561I know it gets handed out too often now but he probably should have gotten no guard. Barbaracle has a lot of powerful inaccurate moves like stone edge and cross chop. It thematically makes sense too since the thing literally has eyes facing all around it. Makes more sense than fucking Mega Hawlucha which is pretty much just a more buff Hawlucha. That one was a huge blunder.
If my teams all shiny if I share it will people get to use my very cool shinies?
>beat up on apeWE LOST
>>59374566Honestly I cut them some slack since they actually bothered to balance pokemon before they get into Champions.
>>59374584what if he was vital spirit doe
>>59374566>Are the people who made the DP demakes retardedYes
>>59374585>staraptor
