Turbo Turbulence EditionWhat is Pokémon Sleep?Pokémon Sleep is a sleep tracking app that utilizes your smartphone and/or the Pokémon Go Plus + device to record data as you sleep. In doing so, you'll be able to meet a variety of Pokémon and fill out your Sleep Style Dex.Be sure to post your Research ID so that you can add and share candy with fellow Anons. We are currently locked at 50 friends.FAQ:>How do Shinies work?If you encounter a shiny Pokémon, a single Poké Biscuit will auto-befriend it.>What should I spend my diamonds on?Expanding your ingredient pockets, item pockets and Pokémon box. Long term you’ll want to max out ingredient pockets, everything else is up to what's convenient for you.>When should I use my items?When you have a good grasp of the game mechanics. You may want to save up Recovery Incenses for event missions.>What should I spend my sleep points on?Poké Biscuits first or if you’re a premium user: Main and Subskill seeds and Great Biscuits.>Can I play this game if there's a lot of noise where I sleep?The game tracks sleep based on motion only; sound has no impact.>A Pokémon I fed got full! Will I have to start from scratch the next time I find one?Nope! Pokémon retain any progress from when you last saw them.>How do dream clusters work?The higher your research rank, the more shards you get. You may want to hold onto them as long as possible.>Official Pageshttps://www.pokemon.com/us/app/pokemon-sleep/https://www.pokemonsleep.net/en/news/>Unofficial Wiki[WARNING] Turbo Cancer-ridden with ads. Use at own risk.https://pks.raenonx.cc/en>Alternative Calculatorhttps://nerolislab.com/>Simple Candy Calculatorhttps://candy.blspnm.com**For safety, back up your account by linking it to Google or your Apple ID. Or at least copy your Support ID from the Pokémon Sleep launch screen (click to reveal Support ID under menu)**Previous >>59349335
I can't tell if my Gardevoir is being buttfucked by my Darkrai triggering, or the cumulative skill trigger soft limit is still in place. I'm on Expert, but I even managed to have Psychic berries be favored, so it's not the Expert speed penalty. It's typically pretty rare for my Gardevoir to struggle, but it's already happened multiple times so far this week.
Shout out to my marshmallow for two last minute procs before i went to bed, everyone please praise her
Just FYI, Empathy Sleep is BOTH Latios and Latias, so set something else if you want an incense spawn. And this Latios was my reward...
>>59375750I'm curious what the Empathy Sleep looks like in the Sleep Dex if you found either a shiny Latias or Latios, since I imagine that sleep style is probably shiny locked, much like Mew and Darkrai.Also an anon in the last thread asked about hungry Mew and Darkrai spawns. I'm fairly sure they can be hungry, and that I might have taken a screenshot but I can't grab it right now.
I got confused when it said Latias and Latios had unlocked their shared bonuses, but that was only because instead of a separate line entry it just got folded into the main text description. Before, it just showed as its own separate section with a lock next to it.
>>59375750>Empathy Sleep??? What?
>>59375772Ah here it is, a screenshot from January of a hungry Darkrai encounter, which >>59371833 wanted to see.>>59376423When you hit event rank 13, you'll get a special message from Neroli.The next sleep session, you'll get a nice surprise, and should absolutely use a luck incense for big dream shard gains, and a focus incense for research EXP gains if you haven't hit max research rank yet.
That’s a fuck you nature
Also can I get a second opinion on this, I know skill triggers are better but it’s hard enough to catch legendaries let alone perfect ones, is this good enough?
>>59376750Just plug it into the calculator, though keep in mind this is after all the event bonuses and the assumption you're running a full Dragon team (without Latias). Since the bonuses are 1.5x skill trigger and +1 ingredient per help, you can extrapolate or just wait until next week to see its normal performance.You're going to be putting a LOT of resources and skill seeds into a Legendary for it to be viable vs just running a regular good Pokemon, so I'd want to be absolutely certain I'm going to use it. Latios is also a bit of an odd one out because it gets so many berries from its skill and isn't particularly fast, so BFS doesn't do as much heavily lifting compared to other Legendaries.Yours is OK. Usable, but not very close to Latios's full potential. The Inventory Up M does help a little bit with overnight activations, but BFS is actually weaker than STM for Latios. Personally, I don't think I'd want to use it.
>>59376735There's 25 natures and most of the time you're only looking for 3, maybe 6, so that it doesn't completely fuck over the rest of the skills you rolled. And since natures provide so much of a bonus, neutralizing mints are only decent SOME of the time.
These fat chud retards won’t bring me the milk I need for avocado gratins
If I mint this nature is this a keeper?
>>59378857For me, it's 2 skill triggers at minimum for a skillmon.
>>59378857I think HSM + STM + BFS is plenty for Latios. HSM + STM can basically only really be improved by a nature, but considering you have BFS, I think it works
Well, this is currently what I have for a Lati Dragon team. Rolled a set of 3 latias with great subskills but no BFS all around and this is the best latios I've had so far.The XP downs are rough and its a LOT of seed investment for the three skill mons, and will I really use it over the usual cooking/ dede team? Its something different I guess.
>>59379736Latias is a little odd, since it gives out help triggers, but running Latias, Latios, and Noivern aren't giving you less per help compared to Salamence, Altaria, and Dragonite... or Drampa if you want.
i might've fucked up by starting my pgp+ at 04:00am sharp
>Latios full after two biscuits>For the third time this event>Never once hungryI thought the update was supposed to make legendaries less likely to get full.>>59380496Latias is the odd one since its main skill only depends on Latios being there, whilst Latios depends on having same-type team composition like all the legendaries before it. Well, "depends" isn't accurate because Latios standalone is still the strongest berry burst user in the game.
>>59380496>>59380520Latios does get extra berries on activation from Latias being on its team as well as from unique dragons on its team, and latias does collect 7 times from the pokemon it's healing if you have latios on the team.BFS Noivern is supposedly great, and I don't have a altaria worth running, and don't know if I want the millions of herbs my dragonite would generate. 5th slot would be actual healer.
>>59380503cheated with timezone. a second good subskill would be nice but the nature + BFS might be good enough. not sure if i want to bother hunting for a second one, unless its hungry i won't catch one tonight.
>>59380583Altaria is somewhat the runt of dragon types, if you luck out and get better options for everything else.Latias is in the same camp as Cresselia where it can heal, but that's not its primary function, and you should still run a dedicated healer. However there isn't a dragon type E4E healer, where Cresselia can pair with Gardevoir.But yeah you've got a solid team of four dragons with space for a dedicated healer. Latias helps keep dedicated healers running too.Note that since your Salamence has an energy hindering nature, it'll receive help from Latias more frequently since it always targets the least energetic Pokémon. At least, I think it may, depending on the order of skill activations.Put it this way, team wakes up and everyone's at 100 energy.If Latias triggers first it's even odds which two of the five helpers gets extra helps.If a healer triggers first, everyone is up to 118 or 136 energy, except for Salamence that'll be at 115 or 130 energy, which guarantees it gets Latias support.Since BFS berry specialists benefit the most from instant help type main skills, this is a meaningful optimisation to keep in mind.Latias skill procs after that will be subject to if any other helpers manage to hit 150% energy or not, but first thing the Salamence would be the joint-first or second most energetic helper.
Shiny Jolteon, but eugh, these rolls...
Had 3 ingredient magneters this week, didn’t crit sadly
What do you get for rank 15 in the event? I might not make it.
>>59382060Just 120 Latios Down samples.If you mean rank 13, you get a 5 star sleep style of Latias and Latios together (guaranteed encounter), you unlock a buff to their main skills, and you receive a main skill seed.The final night of the event has a 1.5x DP multiplier (not sure if that stacks with the 1.1x / 1.3x bonus for having Latias and/or Latios on your team), and the global average drowsy power should be pretty damn high. You might have a shot if you have a really good Sunday cookout.I managed to get 3/3 Sunday crits and finished on 7.5m strength at Greengrass, so I stand to reach a new Drowsy Power record exceeding one billion.That also will mean getting a lot of bonus ranks and bonus Latias / Latios candy, since there's an overflow mechanic when you hit max rank.
>>59382060Rank 15 is just Event materials, though a decent amount mind you. Also there IS overflow for this event, giving you 5x candies for each for each bar you can fill.
>>59382406When's the last time to spend the materials? Will I still be able to tomorrow morning?
>>59382812you can spend for a day or two after the event itself ends.
>>59382258The DP multipliers won't stack, so everything will just get overwritten by the bigger 1.5x boost. You can just run whatever you normally run for a Sunday night.>>59382812You usually get a couple days at least to spend what you've got. Main difference is that you aren't gaining anymore event materials through sleep research or community research. You can still use the incenses and event biscuits too, provided you're on an island that can spawn them next week. And once the exchange disappears, any leftover event biscuits will be converted to Great Biscuits. Might be nice to stock up if you don't have anything else worth exchanging for.
does anyone have screenshots of latios at various skill levels? need to reverse engineer the draco meteor RP
What a fucking disappointing wakeup call for 1b Drowsy Power on Expert. And a 1* Latias at that.
>>59383752Same, hit 1.1B DP (new PB), and only got 2 star Latios sleep, and it wasn't hungry. Every fucking hungry chance failed these two weeks, from GCT or any friend incense I used.Latios was 18/30 pips, I needed two dragon biscuits to guarantee befriending it. The remaining Latios samples weren't enough to get both the main skill seed and one more Latios incense for the future, and the Latios ended up being a disappointment (all inventory no skill trigger).If I'd gotten 3 star sleep, I would've earned just enough samples for both incense and seed.Something's fucked that 1.1B DP doesn't feel better than 500M DP, when I'm at more than double the strength requirement for M20 at GG.
>>59383817Forgot pic related.The Meowscarada was hungry and I got that too, but it was a worse ABB milk farmer than what I already had. I could use a better potato farmer.
>>59383517You can use Neroli in the OP. It actually shows the RP in the calculator.
>>59383862RP is currently inaccurate for latios, should be updated pretty soon
>>59383862i needed the screenshots so i could fix it but i got the info elsewhere
>Gardevoir 0 triggers for the day>Abomasnow 5 triggers with 0 trigger boosts in abilities nature and 4 whole eggs>Bewear with all corn slots has brought me 2 corn all day >forget to make breakfast What in the fuck is going on
Missed getting my biggest Snorlax strength ever by around 500k this past week (highest ever was 6.8m on OGPP, this was 6.3m on ggex). Managed to catch 3 whole Latios but they were all pretty bad. I already have this pretty decent Latias from her event and also caught a cool Noibat a couple of weeks ago.Overall it's a bit tough to get excited, I already maxed a lot of meals, and it's difficult to make the best ones without GCTs. Hopefully the update that makes it easier to find your desired mons really does change things up because honestly it's really demotivating to spend weeks going after something and just never finding it.Oh I also managed to get a new seed for my mew and it's looking really good wow.
This is about as good as I can currently get, though I ended up missing a few meals in order to save for Sunday. I was on Expert and managed to roll Dragon/Dark/Psychic, letting me run Salamence (55), Altaria (65), Dragonite (65), Darkrai (60) and Gardevoir (65). I think if I threw in EVERYTHING, I could have got my Salamence to 60.
I’ve been trying to get a good ralts for two fuckin years please coach im ready
ah shit. its time to go further beyond
>>59385145Oh shit, I never expected them to move the lvl 75 skill to 70. Still, it will likely take an eternity to raise someone to lvl 70 so I don't know if I will weight the 4th subskill that hard when deciding on whether or not to settle for a mon.
>>59385145LOTS of changes coming in, though half of them are just to make it easier for newer players to get to a decent state. I guess they realized with the current math, level 100 would be literally unobtainable, so they're going to draw a line and let us actually get to it.>We are also considering adding bonuses that would be unlocked after Lv. 80 as a long-term goal.>This bonus would be a new feature, separate from the existing sub skills.>We plan to make it a feature that allows researchers to choose which stats they want to bring out from a set of options, unlike sub skills, which are determined when each Pokémon is befriended.Increase in EXP gained from Pokémon Candies>The EXP gained from one Pokémon Candy will be adjusted as follows.>From Lv. 1 until reaching Lv. 25: 35 40>From Lv. 25 until reaching Lv. 30: 30 35>From Lv. 30 onward: 25 25 (no change)>Note: The number of Dream Shards used at the same time will not change.Adjustments to the kinds of Pokémon you can encounter in each areaThe Pokémon incenses you can get as weekly missions rewards in some areas will change.>• This applies to the following areas: Snowdrop Tundra, and Greengrass Isle (Expert)>Note: These changes will start Jun. 29 (Mon) at 4:00 a.m..Adjustments to cooking pot capacity>The capacity of your cooking pot, which refers to the maximum number of ingredients you can use while cooking, can be expanded by completing Sleep Style Dex goals. This will be adjusted as follows.>• 15 21>• 18 23>• 21 25>• 24 27>• 27 29>• 30 31>• More than 33 no change
>>59385145Wow 5th subskill isn't a never ever anymore
>>59385145Imagine being the freak that continues to buy space to house his 1,000+ Pokemon.
Well the level 70 update is huge, suddenly a ton of my best helpers with important level 75 subskills will have those accessible.I had a look through to see what I can look forward to.>>59385236So reaching a level beyond lets you spec your Pokémon the way you want, to a degree.Imagine if it's something like, exclusive sub-skills a tier above like Helping Speed L, Berry Finding M, etc.
>>59380701tried for one more butJ U S Tso i guess the previous one will be the one i keep. not ideal but at least it has bfs
I managed to get some almost-great rolls during the event, for Pokemon that I already have fully evolved. I honestly wouldn't mind an ABC Dragonite since I have a full herb one already.
>>59385284Getting to 80 is still going to be a huge resource sink though, even with an optimistic curve. I just made this as an example, but turns out this Pichu actually has EXP up nature, so +400 candies for a most other Pokemon. Getting to 70 would probably take a bit over 3,000 candies.
>>59385570I want to imagine the level 80+ "skill"/perk unlock will be more unique than just upgrades of current sub skills.Maybe something like: being able to store extra skill triggers, ability to ignore the first ingredient slot, or maybe even opting to exchange all ingredient pickups for an equivalent quantity of berries.
>got latios bronze medal>they are all crapAIIIEEEEE
What are people doing this week after returning to normal? I'm hunting ingredient mons on OGPP same as ever, Coffee and Oil mons call for me.
How do we get a latias in this game? Can we transfer them over to home?
>>59388884Legendary Pokémon are usually encountered during events, where an event currency and exchange system is used to encounter them via incenses.Encountered Pokémon need to be fed biscuits until you befriend them, legendary Pokémon are the most expensive to recruit.Outside of events, legendary Pokémon have a very low chance of appearing, and will require very high Snorlax strength and Drowsy Power (derived from your sleep score based on sleep hours tracked).Pokémon you've befriended in Pokémon Sleep cannot be sent to Home at this time, though it's possible there's enough of a data structure (levels and natures) that this might be possible someday.
Morning haul. 3 hungry (1 shiny). I finally have a Cleffa worth considering, but why the hell did Happiny have to roll like that?! That would have been so much better for Cleffa. And Pupitar actually has an OK roll, though not what I'm looking for.
So, level 70 skills soon, anyone got a mon getting a good new skill? I’ve tossed most of mine in the past assuming we’d never see those skills unlocked.
>>59389413A handful of my Pokemon at least have helpful sub skills coming up at 75, but unfortunately I threw away that last Pichu quite a while ago. Ironically I'm still looking for one and likely already have the candies needed to get to the new level 70 unlock.
>>59389030that just makes me want to gen more shiny pokemon and spam them into home.
Maintenance only a couple hours from now. Make your meals, set your teams, etc.
>>59390380Fuckkkk!
Here are the new spawn tables after the update. I don't think any spawns were added, only removed. At the bottom of each area you can see which Pokémon were removed.Overall there were a LOT of removals and some Pokémon are now exclusive to one area. Some of these removals hurt too, like:>Removed Pumpkaboo and Shuckle from Amber>Removed Spiritomb from Lapis>Mudkip is now exclusive to Taupe>Torchic is now exclusive to Lapis
Oof (forgot my Gardevoir has EXP down). Going to be missing those sleep research shards for a while.
>>59391427OGPP got stripped the most. I guess I won't run into all horrible spawns, but I will miss getting treeko line and the gen 9 starters. my mareep line tho. fuck.
>>59391427It looks like MOST Pokemon are exclusive to one island now, excepting Greengrasses. But even then, there are some that are legitimately exclusive to just one island. Some make sense like Dratini and Bagon, but then you've also got Mime Jr, Dwebble, Shinx...Technically having species all split up should give players more incentive to visit all of the islands, but certain islands remain particularly stacked, more than others. In fairness, Snowdrop does look a bit more appealing now with all the junk spawns filtered out, but those types are still not the most broadly useful. I fucking hate how much time I spent on Taupe, but it looks like I still need to be there in order to get an Onix.Really not sure how this will affect new player progression, as you used to have a sort of build up or a way to ease into each proceeding island. I guess we'll see how the spawns look.
I can count on one hand how many times this slut has proc’d this week
It's always on the ingredient specialists...
My item bag is broken. I can't see anything other than my ingredients. I can't claim the free shop item because my bag is full
>>59392710Maybe clear your game cache. You can do it through the bar menu in the title screen.
Since no event is happening for a little bit, I picked Expert up again to nudge the area bonus. Feels like shit. I never have mons which fit into a team that can collect the right ingredients and also fit into the berry theme. I wonder if future Expert islands will have set berries like their normalfag counterpart.>>59375684Luv Wigglytuff, simple as.
So these are the new level 70 Pokémon that I can power up right now, since I've enough candy and enough dream shards (I can use clusters if I really need to).All of them have strong justification too.>BFS ABB Gengar - Unlocks Inventory S (upgradeable to L)>BFS Raichu - Unlocks Helping Speed S (M at 80)>Vaporeon - Unlocks Skill Trigger M (achieves maximum skill chance)>Skill-max shiny Wigglytuff: Unlocks BFSThere's a strong bias towards OGPP and Cyan Beach here, and the extra levels will bolster their berry strength significantly. Raichu's Grepa Berries go from 121 to 137 strength per berry.>>59393086Expert GG is currently priority for researching research rank 70 ASAP, since that's where the biggest research EXP gains are bar none. That's where I'm going for the foreseeable future, as all of the other islands have been massively narrowed to make them viable for trying to discover specific Pokémon, whilst GG is the wide-net where you can't target specific spawns and just hope good shit pops up.The island change long term will be a very positive one since it'll allow you to progress your sleep research efficiently, whilst being able to not only find new Pokémon to recruit, but actually get candies for them too.For my future Expert GG visits, if I get bad berry rolls, I can't really afford to re-roll the expert ticket because that reduces the number of visits I can do per month. I'll have to bite the bullet and invest in berry specialists that I need to raise up, like some of my Mudkip, Natu, Torchic, etc.I did recently get a superb Onix, that will probably become a Steelix since Tyrunt became a viable rock type berry farmer.Also, whilst chasing research rank 70, I recommend that you set a Research EXP bonus team on your Sunday night sleep, cash out those end-of-week gains and shave a few days off the grind.
>>59393567Wait, the research rank cap was raised? I didn't even notice.
>>59393619Did you miss the research EXP meter filling up at the end of your sleep research session?Yeah it got raised on Thursday morning after maintenance.When the research cap gets raised, that's when new Pokémon max levels also get raised. The maximum level you can raise your Pokémon to is controlled by your current research rank, e.g. hitting rank 60 allows Pokémon level 65, and rank 65 allows Pokémon level 70.This is the same for recipe levels, so recipes you've had stuck at 65 can finally increase to level 70.Of all the things that have overflow mechanics, strangely recipe levels isn't one of them.
>>59393727Honestly I'm still tired as fuck when I wake up and do sleep research, plus I just click through it as fast as possible. It'll probably take me forever to hit 70 even with Expert since I don't think I can reach master at all and will struggle to even reach ultra some weeks (like this one). I wish some of the research progress made at previous cap still granted XP somehow.
Ah, finally enough pips to pick up another single-stager...It's hard to be optimistic once you finally scroll down and see just how fucked up your new Pokemon is each time.
>>59394187That doesn't seem terrible to me, but I don't know much. I was thinking inventory up subs will probably be among the best long-term.
New phone, transferred from a four year old Samsung A52s to a Sony Xperia 10 VII.Still getting used to it, but the transfer for Pokémon Sleep was painless, and my Go Plus+ synced no issues and my Pikachu progress is intact.Upside is shutter button functions as a dedicated screenshot button and takes PNGs, but flipside is it captures the screen rather than the app's output. Samsung's dedicated app screenshot button for games was pretty nice as it wouldn't capture notifications or system tray, etc.>>59394431Mawile's an ingredient specialist, not a skill specialist.It's just that it has a main skill associated with skill specialists that fulfil the same role as an ingredient specialist.
>>59392830Thanks that took care of it
By the way, the EXP boost for candy usage under level 30 is actually pretty significant. From level 15 -> 30, it used to take 328 candies, but now it only takes 224. And if you manage to stack that onto a candy boost event, you shave off an entire day's worth of boosts.>>59394431Inventory is almost the least influential skill in terms of individual Pokemon power. Increased inventory only really works while you're sleeping, because you can just pick up their entire inventory before it reaches the limit. Plus you get up to 8 extra spaces from sleep time ribbon bonuses. Even if a Pokemon could use extra inventory, 1 subskill M or L is more than enough.
The Pichu on the right started with about a 30 candy deficit, but EXP up (left) isn't looking too bad for the long run.
I never get Mew on the special days. They should just make eureka seeds generic for all mythicals. I would much rather raise Mew for now, considering full dark is pretty niche and Mew is less so.
>>59374387The figure has nothing to do with Sleep, but it's pretty nice.
Woke up to double shinies this morning, and the Togedemaru is actually usable!
>>59395858Didn't read all that, but sorry that happened or glad for you. (kidding!)Pretty Togedemaru, wish most of my shinies weren't skill spec chargers. Maybe I have so many, I can create a new meta HA!
>>59395858lucky!
>>59395849I mean, it does have to do with Sleep in the sense that they ran an event for Latias and Latios, featuring the same orb. But yeah, I don't think Sleep has much specific merch for it, though it probably has more than many other Pokemon spinoffs.
>>59396613The not-so-lucky part was that I'd completely exhausted my biscuits for this month, and was low on diamonds.So I ended up having to make a 100 diamond purchase to buy 3 biscuits just so I could avoid picking between the two shinies.>>59397210There's a pretty decent amount of sleep merch all things considered, like various plush dolls based on the assorted sleep styles.
>>59397284It's hard to gauge especially if stuff shows up that you actually want, but you have to be pretty good at self control in order to have enough biscuits until the end of the month, specifically for situations like this. It feels so natural to catch a Pokemon everyday, but as f2p, I don't even get that.
>>59397717It's specifically that the two-week Latios event was heavy on biscuit usage, since there were loads of things to chase, and legendary encounters need a lot of biscuits.I don't usually exhaust biscuits in a month, but it's happened before when the events have things worth chasing. It's less of a self-control and more of how the game is designed to demand lots of biscuits on occasion.Most days just 1 Poké Biscuit and 1 Premium Bonus Biscuit is all I need.
The spawn changes seem to be pretty significant on Amber, though this is the first time I've gotten solid Slumbering for quite a while. A lot more Trapinch/Vibrava than I honestly care for, but this week I've seen a lot more Larvitars and Tyrunt's than previously. Rufflet and Happiny end up being the least desirable for me, but I don't even have good ones of either yet, so that's fine by me.
Now I have to re-evaluate where I'm trying to farm a bit
>>59399885If you're focused on team building, I guess look at what your gaps are and see which island can fill the most gaps. The narrowed spawn pools make that a lot easier now with fewer competing spawns.Otherwise, go to Greengrass Expert to raise your research rank ASAP.I went to Amber Canyon out of habit last week, but I'm going GGEX for the foreseeable future.
Well my area bonus everywhere, including expert mode will be at 85% after the end of next weekI don't particularly need any of the hoenn starters when they'll be boosted for the anniversary prelude event, so I'm not sure where I'll be going. Maybe expert mode so I can start farming candies
>>59399952>>59399928I'm about... 4-5 weeks out from reaching max in all areas. 5 of them are at odd percentages, but if I keep sticking to maxed out islands, they'll all get back to 5% increments and avoid wasting area bonus. So I have to stay on Lapis or Amber for a couple more weeks, then fill out the last 5% on Snowdrop and Greengrass... or I guess I can swap once some of the other islands cap.Unfortunately while I mainly need stuff from Old Gold, it's got an odd area bonus and I won't be able to visit for a couple weeks. But based on the current week, my next week's style has a much higher chance at being anything but Slumbering.
Another Entei surprise
>>59400169My current area bonuses are:>GG: 85%>CB: 85%>TH: 85%>ST: 78%>LL: 77%>OGPP: 77%>AC: 77%>GGEX: 85%Since four of my maps are at less than max bonus, but all more than 5% bonus, that means I can spend one week at each to get a full 5% bonus without losing points, but then have to spend one week at any other maxed island for that 5% to distribute 2% to ST, and the remainder to the other three.I guess that would look like this:>ST: 83 -> 85%>LL: 82 -> 83%>OGPP: 82 -> 83%>AC: 82 -> 83%If I end up in that situation, 5% will take the remaining two islands to 85%, and leave AC at an awkward 84% that gets filled in whenever I visit any non-expert island.My situation that I've just described (if the percentage distribution is correct?) means I'm six weeks away from all islands being max bonus, but my personal priority is to max out my research ranks so I can maximise my dream shard gains.It's better to do that ASAP so you're not delaying your research EXP converting to dream shards.If I were to ignore the lost area bonus and let 2% of bonus disappear by visiting OGPP two weeks in a row, that probably has a very minor impact on getting all the areas maxed though?Aside from that, got a superb Expert GG roll today: Water / Ground / Psychic with 2.4x berry strength and salads.So I'm running my Suicune team with Gardevoir support, but healer hasn't procced a single fucking time today.I boosted my Vaporeon from 65 to 70, and now it's skill-chance maxed. It cost a hefty amount of shards though, but I had 2.2m banked without clusters so it's fine for now.>>59401180Incidentally the reduced spawn pools for every islands should probably mean legendary encounters are less rare?I haven't had a full odds legendary spawn in forever though. I had 4* Shelgon sleep this morning completing the Shelgon sleep dex, but I've yet to see a single Salamence sleep style.
Always a surprise when you get 2 red poke balls on Snorlax's power distribution screen.>>59401258>Incidentally the reduced spawn pools for every islands should probably mean legendary encounters are less rare?Very unlikely. The other "common" Pokemon likely had their rates increased to fill in the gaps, while Legendaries remain the same rate as before.
Anything you've held back on, but begun to come around on with the changes to skill unlocks? Getting to 70 is still an arduous experience, but it's realistically attainable now.
When did they raise the max energy cap? I remember it was 150 awhile back.
>>59403700I'm pretty sure it's still 150 and always has been. You can't even use pillows on anything at 100 energy or above... not sure about Berry Juice, but energy still doesn't go over 150.
>>59404117Yeah you're right, I hurt myself in confusion. If you try to use an energy pillow from the pokemon's screen in box, it'll give you the warning that they're at full energy. But if you use an energy pillow from the inventory, it'll show the potential energy boost over 150 and THEN show you the warning.
Sinnoh starters incoming. Maybe these will be our first skill-type starters? Also dunno if they'll shift types for these ones.Prelude event starting next week, rolling into the real 2-week event, taking up almost the entire month.
Oh, also you've got less than an hour until the exchange shop resets too.The prelude event comes with a 1.5x Research EXP boost among other things, so you might want to head to Expert for that at the very least.
>>59404607Since it's an anniversary event, this is likely the return of that "pick your bonus" flower pot thing, that includes receiving a neutralising mint.If you're still holding onto two mints, which is the limit, you may need to use it before receiving another one.
>>59405875I’ve already used up both of mine. Ironically both on BFS + HB Poison Pokemon.
Finally? Really wished it had a skill trigger and some honey, but it just might work.
Two Bagons this morning>One had BFS AND HS>The other had BFS tooOne with Ing up and the other with Spd down because fuck me I guess.
>>59407696>my lobster too juicy>my grass too green
>>59407889More like my prime rib is raw inside
I've gotten desserts so often, yet I still don't have a team that can consistently harvest for any decent recipes. Missing a lot of eggs and ginger, though I can now get plenty of both while on Amber/Dragon weeks.
Ugh...
Another morning, another disappointing new Pokémon.At least the "incredible bundle" is coming back on Tuesday.
>>59411442Even though I've been getting Snoozing a lot this week, I've only gotten maybe one Natu and one Ralts on Lapis. Lots of Meowths and Torchics that I don't need.
>>59384715I feel ya.I started the game just to get a shiny ralts, and despite single-minded focus on that goal it still took over a year.Though, now I'm not really sure what to do with the game. Guess I can aim for a shiny mawile or something.
Surprise legendary again. Maybe their rates did increase... Also shiny Wynaut, but lol
SHOW ME YOUR BEST MON
>>59414125I guess I'd consider her my best since she never leaves the first slot.Also opened up 2 slots for friends:3107-9468-7371(MASTERLINKX)
>>59414125Technically my best in terms of current RP, skills and up through 80 now. But now Helping Bonus isn't so bad in the higher unlocks, since it's feasible to actually use. And most Pokemon don't need BFS + HSM + HSS + IFM/STM + IFS/STS, you can easily trade a small speed or ingredient finder for HB. I guess some might actually like inventory though
>>59415274Always forget my attachments... I thought I had something better, but this is actually the best all the way through
>>59414125
>full week of snoozing>one single dedennebullshit
It's odd that there's only information about this week's prelude event when 3rd anniversary is at the end of the following week. Are there nonconsecutive event weeks separated by a regular week?
>>59415662We'll be getting full details on the 3rd anniversary this week, probably either Tuesday night/Wednesday morning or Wednesday night/Thursday morning
>go to Expert for the prelude week for extra Research EXP>Bug/Normal/FlyingI don't usually re-roll, but I definitely had to re-roll that shit. Luckily I have enough for Dark/Ground/Fighting (with berry bonus).
>Ended at 6m+ strength at Expert GG. no GCT>Natural 1* Cresselia spawnGood night to run 1.45x Research EXP bonus>Rolled Water / Flying / Ghost with Ingredients effectPretty good, this should be a good week for research EXP gains.It probably won't be as good as last week though, which was Water berries and 2.4x berry strength.
>>59414125If going by RP, yesterday that was my Heracross (7493).Not even level 60 yet and it exceeds my skill max level 70 Vaporeon (7214).This morning though I powered up my BFS Gengar to 70, and gave it subskill seeds for Inventory Up L. It's RP 8208 now.
Which of these ditto would you guys invest in, it any? Leaning towards BFS or HB options. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Oh yeah, since levels updated, so did potential berry values. This is just Yache berry as an example, but all berries follow the same percentage gains.>>59416993wtf is this messAlso none are worth considering. Ditto is still a generally slow Pokemon with a fun skill, but unremarkable gathering capabilities. It needs IFM at minimum, speed, then skill trigger/levels if there's space. Only ingredient set you wouldn't want is probably ABA.
After checking >>59416656 yesterday, I realised I could set a sleep team with an RP >34k, I can hit 36k now.So, I can get an achievement and a handy candy reward, but I'm in no rush.>>59416993So here I am doing shit in CMD like>gm montage -tile 3x1 -geometry +0+0 file1.png file2.png file3.png -format png -depth 8 -collage.pngAnd then there's whatever the fuck this is.Ditto wants to focus purely on ingredient gathering and wants to be a dedicated oil or leek farmer. It's not an effective BFS user due to how slow it is (in contrast to Gengar that's fast as fuck).Slowpoke tails are not really worth going for or hoarding, filler ingredient strength does not scale with recipe levels and only two lower level recipes use them (though that could always change).
>>59417398By the way, it looks like every 10 levels is a consistent increase of ~28%, so you can project the values to level 80... unless they decide to switch it up for the last levels. Also even though they brought down the skill unlocks to 80, there's technically no mention of the level cap. You can assume it's 100, but it could also have been reduced to 80 or have no limit at all. Problem is that berry farmers will continue to get stronger, while the skill Pokemon especially, begin to fall by the wayside without further skill level unlocks. Consequently, more main skill levels could make skill Pokemon insanely strong for beginners.
>>59418360The dream shard costs for cooking pot upgrades, which had been data-mined at one point, where increased when they actually were made available.So it's all entirely subject to change, and the berry or recipe level strength curve could change again if they want to avoid the issue of skill specialists losing relevance to berry farmers.Extra Helping and Berry burst skill specialists still scale though, due to the nature of their main skill.The EXP curve itself hasn't been changed iirc, but the amount of EXP you get for using candy on Pokémon under certain levels has changed twice already.
I guess they're opting for shifting types again. As much as I'd appreciate a Steel berry farmer, starters all seem to share the same role among their generations, and we just got Ground and Fighting berry farmers. The remote chance of Berry Burst exists, but it could also be an entirely new skill getting rolled out for this set.
— All Days —• A few Pokémon of different sleep types will appear during sleep research regardless of your sleep type for that day.• Certain Pokémon will be more likely to appear during sleep research.— Week 1 (Jul. 13 to Jul. 19) — A week when you can befriend lots of helper Pokémon!• During sleep research, one Pokémon will for sure arrive hungry (once per day).• The chance of each helper Pokémon’s main skill triggering will be multiplied by 1.5.• Helper Pokémon Sleep EXP ×1.5• The number of candies gained through sleep research will be multiplied by 1.5 (once per day).• A limited-time Dream Gift can be received each day.— Week 2 (Jul. 20 to Jul. 26) — A week when you can raise lots of helper Pokémon!• Final Strength gains from dishes will be multiplied by 1.5 (or 3 for Extra Tasty dishes or 4.5 for Extra Tasty dishes on Sunday only).• The limited-time Mini Candy Boost function will be available.• The limited-time Festive Flowers will be available.>Red Seed: Candies gained from the first sleep research of the day will be multiplied by 2.5.>Blue Seed: Helper Pokémon Sleep EXP will be multiplied by 3>Yellow Seed: Once per day, one Pokémon will definitely be hungry during snack time.>Purple Seed: Dream Shards gained through sleep research will be multiplied by 2.5.>White Seed: Obtain a Neutralizing MintAfter the recent shake-up for spawns, the only way you can encounter all 3 new starters at the same time is by going to Greengrass/Expert. And now the only other location where you can encounter more than 1 species is Taupe.
Removed and freed 4 friend slotsAdd me6731-5368-1689lvl 65playing everyday since launch
>>59419218>starters all seem to share the same role among their generationsTreecko broke that by being a skill specialist, but otherwise yes the starters tend to fit into the same role by each generation.It'll be curious what role the Sinnoh starters end up being, maybe a new ingredient specialist set.>>59419550Greengrass / Expert will likely continue to be the preferred place to go for events, unless they start doing events that specifically promote certain islands.Also looks like we might receive just one neutralising mint this time?Should be a pretty good event though.
if empoleon is a berry type i might do CB week 1 and GG week 2 since i dont havr a steel berry farmer
>>59420071Steelix is literally the only option so that's be a huge win if they do that.Like how Swampert gave us a much better ground berry farmer option over Marowak.
Managed to boost my one-and-done Torchic up to 70 as my first Pokemon there. Needed to pump in some candies, but surprised I had enough, even with EXP up.
>>59420203That sucker needs a subskill seed for Helping Speed M.You might get Inventory Up L though, but that's not so disadvantageous.
>>59420270I don't do premium, so I only have 3 Sub Skill Seeds at the moment. I'd rather save them for something more substantial. A /chance/ at a 7% power bonus isn't that appealing in practice. In terms of overall performance, upgrading Ingredient Finder or Skill Trigger should provide much more significant bonuses.
>>59419789Despite being a skill specialist, I'd still consider Treecko to be in the same role as its generation, as they're all reliant on berries. They haven't done shared skills since launch though, so I guess we'll have to see.In terms of coverage for specialists within a type, I think we're just always going to be light on actual berry farmers, but everything could always be rounded out a bit more. Especially with Expert mode, role variation helps a lot in being able to field a team.Ground: Berry - 2x (Marowak, Swampert), Ingredient - 2x (Dugtrio, Flygon), Skill - 1x (Sandslash)Fighting: Berry - 2x (Primeape, Blaziken), Ingredient - 2x (Bewear, Quaquaval), Skill - 2x (Lucario, Gallade)Steel: Berry - 1x (Steelix), Ingredient - 2x (Aggron, Mawile), Skill - 2x (Magnezone, Togedemaru)Sandslash is technically a skill specialist, but it just has Ingredient Draw, so you could consider it as an ingredient type instead. And Gallade also works better as a berry farmer.
>>59420203Decided to take a look at what the RP would look like after Sub Skill Seed(s).
Realized I should calm down a little on my biscuit spending... Even though I really want a good Treecko, the other starters launch next week. I'm already several days ahead of my 30-day stock of biscuits, and introduction events always bait me into using more. Hopefully the actual anniversary bundles will be decent.
>>59422411Treecko is the one thing I'll hunt this week, since I got strong Torchic and Mudkip already (but won't decline a better one).I went for a Cleffa this morning though, since a fairy berry farmer is much higher priority when you've already got good grass options like BFS ABC Victreebel, and BFS+HB Meganium.
Hyped for this guys level 70
>>59423237Mini candy boost soon, you'll be eating good.Well, the Snorlax actually.
>>59423250No I never feed him, always end the week at 0 strength
>>59423503Even though you can force your Pokemon to dump/reset their inventories, it would actually be really hard to not get any Snorlax Power, mostly due to sneaky snacking. You would need to be pretty diligent in checking your Pokemon throughout the day, and they would need to be exceptionally slow or have very large inventories to prevent them from activating overnight.
what the fuck is it with research exp bonus in first slots?
>>59424035Pokémon with friendship level 10 get a guaranteed gold subskill in their first slot.Level 40 unlocks that for the second slot, and the option to disabled guaranteed gold skills, and then another at level 100.Since there are only 7 gold subskills, it's a 1/7 chance to get any specific gold skill.This is great for berry specialists that need BFS and want Helping Bonus, but disadvantageous for ingredient specialists because there are no gold subskills that benefit their role.Guaranteed gold subskills reduce the number of slots that can roll for speciality relevant subskills like Ingredient Finder M, Skill Trigger M, or Inventory Up L.Skill Level Up M is good for skill specialists, particularly if you're free to play, but it technically reduces the maximum potential of a skill specialist as it's a slot that could've been helping speed or skill trigger instead. Main skill seeds exist, after all (and apparently, a new feature is coming that can also raise main skill levels).Sleep EXP bonus is a nice to have, Research EXP bonus is situationally helpful (like stacking 5 of them to use at the end of the week).Energy Recovery Bonus is arguably the worst gold skill since the effect is so minor, but it does help to negate an energy hindering nature when sleeping, and the 5% head-start when waking is decent.Dream Shard Bonus is not good unless trying for a big stacked cash-out when multiple bonuses and a luck incense are active; you get more dream shards by raising your Snorlax's strength as high as possible and getting a full night's sleep.
>>59424071my problem is that it really doesn't feel like a 1/7, research exp bonus seems to be the vast majority
>>59424348Fair point, we don't actually know the weights of any given subskill, 7 gold subskills existing doesn't mean they're all a 1/7 chance.It could be the subject of a data study, such as if there are potentially other pity factors like "the player just spent money give them a good roll".
>>59424348>>59425028I always feel like Research EXP and Dream Shards manage to show up the most in the level 10 slot. I do get my fair share of Helping Bonus and Berry Finder (usually on non-berry specialists), but I also find Skill Level Up M to be less common for whatever reason.
>>59419550I thought it might actually be worth going to Expert for one of these weeks but there's not much benefit to doing that. You'll get some more dream shards, but boosted research EXP is only for this week, and there's no innate candy boost for Expert either.If you did go to Expert though, you'd have access to all the new starters, and your spawns would be somewhat limited to lower tiers. This could potentially enable you to encounter more of the new starters vs standard Greengrass. If you're going to look for a specific species, one of the other islands should be more fruitful, but we'll have to see what they're capabilities look like once we finally get their stats. I kinda want to imagine they'll be skill specialists.
So where is everybody thinking about going to next week?
>>59427772We should be getting stats, skills, and ingredients pretty soon. At this point there's no telling if they're worth chasing. But all the starters so far have been good, so we just have to see what they do exactly.
>>59427772Gonna stick to expert GG for a while.Research EXP gains is the goal, to reach rank 70 ASAP.Although there's no research EXP bonus for the next few weeks, it's still the best place to earn it, and candy gains are also stronger.GG/Expert is also the only place to encounter the three starters (and their evos next week), if you decide to chase them.>>59429199Regardless of recruiting the new starters, there will still be a total of 36 new sleep styles to discover.As it usually goes, many 3 star sleep styles that cannot be observed at Greengrass, can be observed at GG expert.By the by, next week's event missions features a use 7 incenses task that actually matters; 5 Poké Biscuits reward.
We dont really understand the appeal of this spinoff game.
So stats are finally out.Torterra is a skill type with E4E. It compares pretty favorably in activations against Gardevoir. Torterra is much slower, but its overall power is better due to starting with Mushrooms (vs apples).Infernape is a skill type with Berry Burst. It compares pretty similarly against Sceptile, though Fighting berries have less base strength. Infernape is actually a little slower, but it has slightly higher skill rate.Empoleon is a berry type with Extra Helpful. It's rather slow, but with its skill, probably evens out against Steelix. That said, it performs pretty well against all other berry farmers on the whole.>>59429961You don't actually get more candy on Expert. The only things you get more of are: Research EXP, Dream Shards, and event materials.
