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A thread for the creation and discussion of fan fiction and other fanworks - anything that involves a story and/or reading. What've you been reading? What've you been writing? What would you like to see more of?

>Thread question:
What's a fic you want to see revived?

>Previous thread:
>>59367127
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New Prince of Po Town for those who partake. [sppiler]This time with an Ultra Beast.[/spoiler]

https://archiveofourown.org/works/66210784/chapters/230571581
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>>59378974
>sppiler
That's now how you spoiler text Pofag.
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Bros, I'll be honest. It's something very retarded.
I'm very scared of re-reading Game of Champions out of fear of it not being as good as my nostalgia and my memories tell me it was.
Has anyone here read it recently? Was it still as kino as it was back then? Or was I just a dumb, inexperienced, teen with underdeveloped tastebudss?
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>>59378970
Does a romance mess with your bond power levels? If you get a girlfriend you'd naturally spend time with her and away from your team. Should your pokemon team be allowed to pursue romance on their own? Is it fine to let them mate with other pokemon or should they be kept completely focused on fighting?
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>>59378974
Jesus, didn't you do one less than a week ago? You're on a roll dude.

>>59378985
Nice try anon but you're not getting a description of Crest's dick.
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>>59378985
I remember Attract being really broken in the anime, so yes, let them unwind with casual sex
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>>59378970
A RWBY/Kumo Desu Ga Nani Ka crossover fic called Remnant's Nightmare. It left off on a cliffhanger, it was pretty funny and did a decent job of emulating Kumo Desu's humor.
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>>59378985
Real bonds remain strong because they are built on trust. You trust your homie to still be your homie when he gets a girl. Your homie getting a girl is a good thing, because even if you spend less time with them your homie is happy and that's the goal for you and your homies.
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>>59378977
I am ashamed T_T
>>59378989
You will never catch up!
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>>59378985
If you aren't going to fuck them yourself, just let them rape any wild pokémon they want to always operate on post nut clarity.
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>>59378985
There was this anime episode where Meowth was going to betray the Team Rocket because he fell in love with a Glameow
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>>59379072
>>59379019
What's the correct response as a trainer if one of your pokemon tries to rape (You)? Should they be treated like animals following their nature, or as individuals that should be severely punished?
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>>59378985
I was bingewatching the Advanced anime and there were a few episodes with human couples AND their pokemon also in love. Now that I think about it the games also have the lovey-dovey couples offering you Double Battles.
I think it's very time-effective to have your own pokemon dating your gf's pokemon since everybody gets to enjoy a nice time together. Well, as long as you both have a pokemon in the same Egg Group.
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>>59379126
I don't know, that just sounds like a more roundabout form of Pokephilia when you think about it,

>Anna did not respond. She took a few more forkfuls of the pasta and ate. Andrew drank the last of his wine and put the glass down a bit harder than intended. Glancing away in search of the waitress he noticed at table across the room a young girl sitting closely next to a pokemon, lizard-like and blue with a yellow crest, leaning her head on its shoulder. The two at that table looked deeply into each others eyes. The lizard's black hand caressed her jaw line down her neck and across the exposed collarbone of her tube top and she smiled.

>Out of the corner of his eye he could see the dancer follow his gaze. She said, "It's always the teens that end up doing that."

>The man responded, "You seen this before?"

>"Who hasn't?" she said with a little smile, "You seem like the type of guy to end up doing the same. You left that sex shop, huge mess and all."

>"I, I was conducting some anthropological field research at the intersection of film and media studies into how intimacy is portrayed in digital media, through a strictly feminist lens to be clear."

>"I don't even know where to begin with that," She said mockingly, "So what did you conclude?"

>"I'm still in the process of gathering data. Here," he said pointing over at the couple across the room, "Is another data point."

>Anna looked over her shoulder again. She said turning back, "Those don't ever end well."

>"What do you mean?" The man said, scraping the last of his food off the plate.

>The dancer frowned and said, "It means just that. It's against the law, first, but who cares about the law really? Most importantly it just breeds resentment with the rest of the team. Screws up the dynamics. Image sending out a lover, let alone a life partner, to battle and having to just watch them get pummeled into the dirt by someone else. That makes it all personal. It gets ugly real fast."
t. SELLOUTS
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>>59378970
When does size matter?
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>>59379144
Always. An inch bigger is an inch stronger.
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>>59379138
Worm-esque writing. No, I will not elaborate.
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Is it okay if my MC's Pokemon could devolve and evolve at will? I don't like its last stage but I still want the power boost from evolving for battles
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How do you win an argument with someone like this?
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another nutritionman chapter I'll read later^tm
It was so boring that I haven't been able to bring myself to read any since he flew away mid super secret dragon training montage to milk tm money out of jewshekel moneyburg at the tm training facility or whatever, has anything actually happened yet

also it's so pathetic that his self insert is unable to use the magic dragon walls because he's a fucking pussy and they (the inanimate walls) don't respect him enough
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>>59379164
No. Bending the rules like that for your MC is deviantart kid territory.
Just don't evolve them and make it a point that it's a preference that's costing them. Free underdog points which narratively you don't have to really honor.
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>>59379173
His secret technique should be get ninetales to blast people with his memories of getting nuked
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>>59379173
what if every trainer can devolve their pokemon, then?
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>>59379164
Make the pokemon hold and Everstone, if you want a power boost then make it learn a new Move or something, or just make the MC catch a pokemon to cover for its weaknesses.
There's plenty of ways around it that don't make people disregard your fic as nonsense.
>>59379182
It's shit senpai.
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>>59379182
It'd be a bit weird.
Also quite exploitable given ability and type changes.
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>>59379066
>You will never catch up!
aaiiiiiieeeeee--
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>>59379182
Bro just finish your Digimon fic
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>>59378970
>the pedo faggots continue to samefag and spam koikatsu slop in every thread
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>>59379199
I think this bot malfunctioned
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>>59379159
The funny thing is Chapter 10 opens up on him and Tia the maractus after a wild night of sex and drugs. The hotel door barred, and pink handcuffs around his wrists.
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>>59379247
I can accept pokephilia but doing drugs is crossing the line
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>>59379251
The same chapter:
>He looked around the room from person to person, all equally downtrodden, all equally miserable. The rotund diabetic veteran in the wheelchair with two stumps at the knees, the obese woman clutching closely a swaddled baby in a gentle sway, the disheveled and blind vagrant and his seeing-eye growlithe in a red service vest, all these were his colleagues in the school of suffering. The moment should have been uniting and yet he found himself estranged. Where there should have been pity and empathy and understanding there was instead a dull hunger-pang for his commission.

>The veteran, ten milligrams of davita, etymology davita, the vita, vitae, via vitae, fighting-type booster, stimulant, intravenous; the mother, one hundred milligrams Qs, derivate of ammoniated quinine, water-type booster, deliriant, insufflated, and for child five milligrams gunk, poison-type booster, sedative, oral; transient, dealer’s special of miscellaneous remnants from the floor scraped into a dime bag, and of course tinder for the growlithe. Income generated, three hundred thousand pokedollars; commission, seventy thousand.
t. SELLOUTS
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>>59379159
This is the most insulting thing anyone has ever said about the fic.
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>>59379251
SELLOUTS is cringe, what else is new.
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>>59379247
If it was a human woman this would be a top tier chapter opening.
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>>59379258
So this is just the Pokemon Reborn of fanfics.
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>>59379280
Worm is based thoughever
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>>59379280
What if I called it WARD-like? Then again SELLOUTS doesn't have enough torture planets yet.
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>>59379333
>torture planets
I read Worm, I've given up on reading Ward because the first arc was bumming me out. Who's the next big bad guy after they kill Scion?
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Fuck I forgot how retarded FFN readers are.
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>>59379339
It starts out with some random mooks. Then the Fallen and their leader Mama Mathers. There's March, she's a horny psycho lesbian with plot armor. Teacher becomes god briefly. Contessa is incompetent and ends up in a precog battle with Ziz and there's an army of Parahumans-turned-Titans, basically mob-type endbringers. A whole army of them. Vicky and company can't do much to fight them.
Then there's a fake-out suicide plot, every body dreams about beating Ziz and Contessa and the terrible two some are defeated by dream magic.
There's also a lot of socio-poltical issues brought up but never really addressed by the story, at least not addressed well.

Oh yes the the superheroes have a gulag planet.
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>>59379164
Fuck it, who's going to stop you?
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>>59379353
How retarded are we talking about?
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>>59379362
Neat, like a phantom zone I guess? What's the purpose of torturing the prisoners though (or even keeping them around, the Birdcage was only a consistency plan for the final battle if I remember right)
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How would you buff Blaine's team? Stadium style team?
Hard mode: no Mewtwo.
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>>59379418
No, it's just an alternate earth they send people too with minimal supplies and shock collars that prevent them from using their powers. Somehow no one dies, it never blows up in everyone's faces, and the only problem with it is that the villains and public eventually finds out about it.
Then again there's no legal system to violate in the first place, the heroes kind of just go off vibes and keeps non-powered lawyers around as sounding boards to see what will and won't piss off the starving masses of humanity gathered in their dystopian yellow-gold megacity.
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>>59379420
Three charizards.
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>>59379138
What is SELLOUTS even about?
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>>59379456
Official summary:
>California man gets isekai’d into world of pokemon, but it’s long after anything important would have happened in that particular region he finds himself in. He gets into legal trouble, has a protracted midlife crisis, and then starts an international mailing service.
>Similarities of any character herein to any real person, whether living or deceased, are purely coincidental. I don’t own Pokémon.
It's about a down on his luck, mentally ill, failed oceanographer from California who was always called an idiot. Probably because he is. Who periodically has dissociative episodes and goes on crime sprees while he tries to build his evil team.
It's a slice of life.
The disclaimer about real people is because the author, a professor from California, bases people in the fic off of people he knows irl and periodically assaults with dialogue from his chapters in order to record their reactions for his fic.
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>>59379456
Local schizophrenic blindly climbs a ladder and then falls off at the top.
t. author
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>>59378985
If you really want to max out your bond with your Pokemon there’s only one true solution…
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>>59379117
For daring to raise a filthy paw against their human Master, no less than a hundred lashes shall be applied to the beast in question. Tamato berry paste will be applied to the wound, and two weeks in chains should pass until pokecenter treatment is granted.
Then the beast is to be FUCKED by their master using aphrodisiac deliriants until it blacks out and learns its place.
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>>59379164
The Pokemon Adventures manga did that with Vee, the Eevee that could devolve at will and then re-evolve into something else.
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>>59379420
Probably stadium style, I'm not too fond of giving him a Grass-type but Clefable, Kangaskhan, Chansey, or a Psychic-type like Mister Mime are all good picks.
Stadium is my go to for what other pokemon to give people anyways,
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If a Venusaur has a higher Speed stat than a Bulbasaur, does that really mean that the Venusaur is "faster" than a Bulbasaur?

We typically think of small critters as nimble and fast, while the bigger ones are slow hard-hitting goliaths, but is that really the case? Does an Ivysaur get slower after evolving, would it perform worse at a race against its own family line?
I don't think anyone really takes game stats at face value but it's still something that I wonder. Maybe the evolutions are exclusively faster during fights when they burn all their stored energy, like Cheetas being the fastest land animals but not being able to endure that for long.
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>>59379420
Throw in an ice type just to shit on venusaur
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>>59379788
Last time this came up in a thread it was chalked up to faster reaction speeds.
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>>59379778
>>59379791
Isn't his BW team solid? But that weakness to Surf/Aqua Jet/Earthquake hurts.
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>>59379420
Blaine has a whole roster of mons in the World Tournament in Gen 5. That's a good place to start.
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I love my wife Green!
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>>59379853
I don't
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>>59379788
>We typically think of small critters as nimble and fast, while the bigger ones are slow hard-hitting goliaths
>We
Who's we lol
>but is that really the case
Smaller hitbox makes for easier DODGE IT's, but that isn't the same as being faster.
Then there's magic...
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We've all heard of nutrition man, but has anybody done a parody of him yet? I know SELLOUTS and PoPT have mocked aura and Isekaijin before, but I think nutrition is just as easy to mock.
Just have a pokephile gag character be in on some sort of health influence scam. Like that sub-critical scurvy stuff where it prescribes near a hundred time the normal amount of vitamin C.
I think vitamin C is especially a good target since most animals, unlike humans, already produce an amount where they don't need dietary supplements in the form of fruits like humans do.
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Every day I wake up next to Green is a good one. She makes me so happy.
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Greenfag given your schizophrenia, are you from California too?
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>mfw having to use chatGPT to understand what the fuck was happening in contests in the games
>i won't even have contests featured prominently in my story
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You couldn't understand something that a child could learn?
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>>59379916
Sometimes I get "learning blocks" like that, but contests are confusing, don't lie. Most kids had no idea what was happening in contests.
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>>59379915
Nigga, it's just what kids call aura farming now. Or at least in the anime, make your moves and Pokémon look cool and powerful even if they're shitters when fighting real battles.
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>>59379922
I needed to get a decent grasp of it because the character who would come from contests quit contests for being a shitter at contests but later learns that she's actually really good at battles.
If her pokemon can just aurafarm, then I can't explain why she didn't have any success at them.
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>>59379926
Ballet and MMA are different sports for a reason.
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>>59379898
A few fics have made jabs at the nutrition meme but dedicating a fic to the idea seems a bit hyperspecialized and unlikely to ever happen.

But we ARE in dire need of a fic that fully parodies all the cliches. I remember there was one fic that was doing this but it died at 2 chapters because the author feared his own creation.
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>>59379898
I always thought of the drugs thing as the logical conclusion to nutrition.
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>>59379909
you niggers are never going to grow the community this way.
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>>59379985
shears are meant for pruning, not killing
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>>59379788
Venusaur are surprisingly nimble when they actually want to be.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0g3FIKIiec
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>>59379915
Why use chatgpt when you can just ask us here, where autists like me who just recently watched an video breaking down the entirety of contest mechanics on a whim the other day exist.

Contests in the game are literally just different themed talent shows in two stages. Stage one is just the judges taking a look at your pokemon's stat for the current theme (Cute, Cool, Tough, Beauty, or Smart). The second stage is all the pokemon in the contest on stage at the same time trying to show off their talents while trying to upstage/sabotage the other pokemon.

Imagine a highschool talent show, but every kid is on stage at once. One is playing the violin but you can't hear them over another one loudly singing All Star, and then one deploys a flashbang.
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>>59380052
Makes me sad that contests are usually anime-style one-at-a-time affairs.
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>>59380035
Physically revolting to look at movement
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>>59380052
Thanks.

To be specific as to what I was going for, I wanted to have a character who starts off just owning a couple of pet pokemon, then goes into contests and is a flop despite having good technique, and afterwards joins an underground battle circuit where she finds she's actually quite good at battling but keeps some habits from contests.
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>>59380108
This works pretty well with in game contests mechanics. Pretty much, every pokemon move that you can use for battle also has a completely different set of stats that is used in contests. Its type is replaced with either Cool, Beauty, Cute, Tough, or Smart. Instead of power, it has a set amount of points it will earn you when used and may have secondary effects depending on the move. This includes things like bonus points depending on when its used in the turn order, sabotaging your opponents actions for that turn, setting up for a bigger bonus on your next action, or for something like Explosion prevents you from making any other moves for the rest of the contest.

So two suggestions I have are that they are really good at putting on a show, but struggle to keep themselves from being sabotaged or performing alongside other pokemon. Or possibly would make more sense for them being good at battles, they are really good at managing their pokemon's interaction and sabotage of other pokemon but weren't good at actually performing once they got themselves in an advantageous position.

Of course, that's if you're trying to build your contests off of gameplay inspired autism. Contests are easily modified and altered to fit whatever works best for your story since they aren't as straight forward as a battle. A performance can really be anything after all.
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>>59380149
>Of course, that's if you're trying to build your contests off of gameplay inspired autism.
Oh, yeah. I'm going for gameplay autism after watching several anime episodes revolving around contests and coming out dry.

After reading a bit on contests and this post, and trying to think of something that would look like a performance, I thought of this concept of having her create her battle strategies as routines that are hard to get through. I'm still working on her sets, but, to give an example, I thought of this strat of her Furret using Dig to hide and Swagger to get and advantage so when it comes out to use Trailblazer it's harder to evade and easier for it to scurry back with Dig.
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>>59379838
Give him a Scovillain then
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>>59379985
Good, we gatekeep here
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How does the reminding moves work?
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>>59380427
The same way whiting out during a plot's time-sensitive moment works
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>>59380427
personal teacher
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>>59380427
Percussive maintenance.
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>>59380455
>(Fat) ugly bastard
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SELLOUTSanon I summon you.
(Once again, this drawing is my interpretation and does not reflect that of the author)
I'll probably have to redo this full body shot of your Maractus, I think I fucked up some things but I can't tell what exactly.
I'm still busy with the Maractus-Holden-smile, but I'm balancing that between work and reworking CC.
I hope you still like it.
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>>59380488
NTA, but it is currently near 3 in morning for Californians.
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Where my east coast anons at?
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>>59380225
>Oh, yeah. I'm going for gameplay autism after watching several anime episodes revolving around contests and coming out dry.
Literally how, are you one of those aphantasia guys that can't imagine an apple?
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What if Red was betrayed?
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>>59380649
East coast? Nah, eurochads assemble! 13:30 in italy
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>Tried to do a clever thing
>No one got it, they think important Chekhov’s Gun that’s been hanging over things was completely wasted
>No further thought across any site
I might have to start softballing the idea just to prove I’m not retarded o_o
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>>59380738
The audience and Ian are the retarded ones for not noticing that Guzma swapped out the Beast Ball for a fake Pofag. Also go to sleep it's like 4 in the morning in your timezone.
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>>59380745
How the fuck would 60IQ Guzma forge a Beast Ball?
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>>59380711
That happens every Tuesday
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>>59380763
He swapped it out with a Dive ball he had painted and slapped some fake yellow metal thingies on.
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>>59380763
He loves doing Gundam model kits
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>>59380766
With Guzma in charge that would come out looking like some kindergarten macaroni arts and craft tier scuffed. Ian would have to be a retard to fall for-
oh wait, he is a retard. Nevermind.
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>>59380763
Guzma didn’t make it specifically, he had a couple stewards do it while he had possession of Ian’s Beast Ball for a few days after the whole arrest and attempted coup thing happened

Needed a way to get ya boi his spirit Pokemon.
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>>59380766
>>59380804
Not trying to rain on your parade but SI-lver already did this to hide his Master Ball from Giovanni, and you know that having similar ideas is illegal
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>>59379950
>>59379936
Well it's not a whole fic. Aura is pretty much just a reoccurring joke about Andy not wanting to be called a Fairy in SELLOUTS, while in PoPT it drives people insane.
Although my idea isn't something like a whole fic, just a gag like the guy making out with a Gardevoir in Spice and Fox.
But least my mind goes to quacks who sell herbal remedies, essential oils, horse apples...etc instead of drugs. I don't know, maybe it'd be something that's fitting for the ever teased and hypothetical konosuba style fic
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>>59379898
I was thinking of adding a gag character that would be the League's official nutritionist, who goes around gyms to check the Pokémon are fed with nothing less than a 4-star restaurant meal. He also suffers an aneurysm if you feed kibble to them. He also wears a really crappy Ninetales cosplay for no reason that freaks out everyone
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>>59380854
I think adding he’s schizophrenic and has conversations with “the Ninetales” would be a step too far but it would be hilarious. Maybe in some dream sequence thing? Idk
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>>59380866
nta, but alternatively you could play off the long lived angle and have a crazy ninetails be the one barking at everyone psychically about nutrition, after her trainer who she loved passed. Of course that trainer founded the modern science of pokenutrition.
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>>59379985
We're probably outnumbered by your "average" popular writers discord server.
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>>59379985
And that's a good thing, the last thing this place needs is to appeal to a broad audience.
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>>59380488
Looks great. This is almost exactly how I pictured her. Thanks CCfag.
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>>59380772
In the words of CCfag, Ian is a Derry.
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After trial and error, I have found that slapstick humor doesn't translate well to the written medium
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>>59381278
Physical humor can work, but maybe not Tom & Jerry-like slapstick.
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Pokemon Crystal Light! Technically a retelling of Final Fantasy 1, but since that game is so threadbare story wise it's more like using the skeleton of that to tell it's own story so there's not that high of a bar to entry. The first couple chapters 1-to-3, are a bit dry with a lot of flashbacks that seem to cover a lot of the same ground. It feels like we get an explanation of Charazard, Blastoise, and Venasur being the sword, shield and scepter of Coneria every other flashback. It gets better after that with the story really picking up as the main group forms, the younger Princess Jane, WoL the Warrior of Light aka fateman, and the six pokemon of light all starting to form. Jane and Wol have a pretty fun dynamic with her being the outgoing one to Wol's 'pushed along by fate', thing he has going on. All of the pokemon are fun as well, with Hitmonchan and Vileplume feeling like standouts among the cast
As it's a Final Fantasy story the plot is about a group of heroes who have to defeat the forces of chaos, find a collection of relics and save the world.
It's pretty good but I don't have much to say as I read it pretty casually.
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>the mentally ill retards in the fan works thread with their 4chan bots continue spamming their own schizo bullshit and double standards hypocrisy
None of these are actual stories.
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>>59381352
btw i'm trans in case that matters
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>>59381278
so weak-willed
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>>59380673
The opposite, but the way the anime went about contests didn't inspire anything in me. That's why I'm trying to go beyond "plinplo use peck on your own bubblebeam".
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>>59381375
sasuga california thread
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>>59381352
What the fuck are you on about
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>Galarian trainer
>pauses the battle he's having because it's tea time
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>>59381509
>"plinplo use peck on your own bubblebeam"
Remarkable!
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>>59380362
There's nothing to gatekeep at all here. You're mentally ill and not worth talking to with your bad faith bullshit you pull out of your ass every other post.
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>>59381768
post fic
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>>59381509
When you think about "What can pokemon do in a style contest?" it will boil down to either 1- Moves/abilities or 2- Using pokedex trivias or 3- Using the physical features of the pokemon.
You could shake things up by making contests have two or even three pokemon at once, but you won't escape this framework.
If you don't think your story can work with that then don't make your main character a coordinator, make a normal trainer instead, it's that simple.
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>>59381346
Currently reading it and agree the first few chapters are a bit hard to go through due to too many flashbacks. Also those specific Pokemon choosing you and thereby seemingly making you fated to become an army leader makes the accomplishment of reaching that status pretty lame, but alright.

Jane and her Pikachu are very cute and fun so far so I'll keep reading it for now. But if the part about Garland actually wanting to sacrifice himself instead of the princess is true then I'll be mad. Hate conflicts where a simple talk could have solved every misunderstanding.
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>>59381509
>>59381821
nta, and this is gonna sound autistic, but I imagined contests as like spellcards from touhou. Basically you're putting on a performance, song, dance, illusion, combining moves, all to tell a story.
I'm kind of rambling, but the idea is that a performance is supposed to convey something, like a story, and with the how being so varied by pokemon, type, moves...etc the sky is the limit. Exploring the characters of the judges, giving them preferences, and having them be performers of their own also helps. Something like the Rakugo federation from Akane-banashi: you have people who like new styles, old styles, maybe they prefer performance meant to impart some moral lesson, maybe they like ones with a comedic tone. There could be internal contest association politics and factions...etc
The games already break up moves into Beutiful, cool, cute, clever, tough...etc. I think the sky can honestly be the limit.
Honestly I think it'd be easiest for me in one of the Japanese regions since you could make a pokemon version of a Japanese myth, or just invent a unique myth for the pokemon world. Since I'm a Johtofag the first thing that comes to mind is a complex three Evee performance where a Flareon, Jolteon, and Vaporeon take of the roles of the three beasts, while also performing trickery to create the illusion of Ho-oh.
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>>59381821
>When you think about "What can pokemon do in a style contest?" it will boil down to either 1- Moves/abilities or 2- Using pokedex trivias or 3- Using the physical features of the pokemon.
Yeah, I was attempting all three in my Furret example. I thinking of having his trainer build a routine that works as a flowchart, so when there's a threat or an opening, they can react faster than their opponent.
Then, she applies that same principle to the rest of her team.

>If you don't think your story can work with that then don't make your main character a coordinator, make a normal trainer instead, it's that simple.
The main character is not a coordinator, it's her rival who is a former coordinator.
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>>59381858
Funny that while reading your post I was thinking of Akane Banashi, then you mentioned the title outright lol
Honestly making contests into storytelling COULD work, after all this is a written medium so at least the reader would have some aspect of the contest that they could enjoy as well, after all it's by default a very "visual" thing, narrative would add a new layer.
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>>59381858
That's not at all a bad idea.
I won't be delving too much into contests, only what's needed to explain the background of that one character, but I love that concept of coordinators doing something more narrative than purely aesthetic.
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>>59381821
There's also dance choreography / performance which can fall into 'physical features'. I imagine (outside of Mr.Mimes and Ludicolo) most Pokemon don't naturally wave their bodies and limbs around in a human-appealing sort of way. That's where a lot of the training would come in. I mean, you had worst Serena's Braixen pretending to be an idol while throwing around fire everywhere.
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>>59381874
>>59381876
Although I haven't done it, I feel like researching opera, ballet, and figure skating could also be pretty fruitful. I think of opera due to leitmotifs and motifs. A musical motif just being a pattern that occurs during the music, and a leitmotif being a motif that communicates specific information, like a character arc or story.
I thought of danmaku and spellcards as well since in Touhou those are attacks imbued with meaning, usually of mythological significance that the dueling parties use against each other. Something like having two pokemon perform a mock battle of sorts that's supposed to reenact something, be it myth, a literal event, or maybe just illustrate or evoke a certain scene like waves crashing against the beach.
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>>59381094
Well I'm glad you like it! Could you tell me pointers on what could've been better?
(Also trying to do the Holden smile, but kind of difficult with a face of Maractus, even if creepier. Like do I just deform the eyes a bit? Whatever, I'll figure something out.)

...
I might as well crash out here-
DERRYANON!!!
In chapter 13 of your fuck off fic, there's the reference to The Lost World, the second Jurassic Park movie and since I've only just seen the first one at the time, I thought 'Hell yeah, more dino kino!'
So I watched it and brother oh boy was I not ready for DERRY tier stupidity of fucking SARAH and NICK (I hate him more).
Now it's not to say the first movie didn't its dumbo moments (fucking Muldoon muttering a one-liner instead of blasting bullets, hte sister somehow knowing computer bs and the fucking little brother just STANDING THERE. You little faggot- just grab the gun and DO SOMETHING YOU FUCKHEAD)

Nah, I enter the econd movie and imediately I'm hit with rando faggot harrassing Malcolm, the little girl offering a piece of her sandwich to the compy instead of fucking running and Malcolm justifiably calling Hammond retarded.
SARAH!
First thing, she just goes to fucking dinotopia (on Hammands mission to catalogue em or something- it dont mattah), knowing from Malcolm what happened on fucking Nublar, 'Nahhhh I'll be fiiiinnneeeee' she says to him constantly, as if he's some overbearing lover. Girl you are in a hell of genetic freaks, wtf are on??
(She even has the gall to say that these dinobitches represent the world gajillion years ago, like no?! These are not dinosaurs you stupid NO RIGHT DESERVING-)
THEN SHE PETS A FUCKING BABY STEGO and the little thing starts CRYING anf the parents and some others in the herd try to merc the bitch (unfortunately she survives by pulling ninja manouvres)
IN THE VERY NEXT SCENE SHE SAYS 'Óhhhh, be we gonna observe an shieeeeeetttt (I.e. no touching)' at that point I was rooting for her to become Rexy snack.
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fuck contests, me and my Pokemon are entering the ping-pong tournament
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>>59381902
I forgot to mention the movie’s story sucks. The part I took inspiration from was the long grass segment. Although T-Rexes destroying stuff is always 11/10
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>>59381835
I don't mind it too much, it's illustrated more clearly as the fic goes on, but Wol's arc is about him struggling with fate, feeling controlled. Everyone is basically always making decision for him and despite being the hero of legend, he's also in a position where his agency and responsibility are undermined.
He is fateman.
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>>59381902
(con't)
So anyway, we found out that Malcolms... adopted(?) daughter just stowed away on the ship to the Sorna? (Fucking asscreeds shit bro, cuz how tf?)
SHE TOO SAYS 'DAaaAAaaaD you worry toooo muuuuccchhh' (fucking hate that darkie too- She is NO Kuzey! Like he pulls some dumb shit, but I still love that DUMB COWARD!)
Oh yeah, forgot to mention, Sarah is supposed to be this smart paleotologist chick who's headstrong, but no, she's straight up a bitch to Malcolm, cuz wtf she STARTS defending the daughter! Like, are a you a responsible adult wtf??? SEND HER ASS BACK!!
But nahh, we chilling in dino city ya'll!
Then the Ingen hunters are introduced, including Roland Tembo (Oh btw my three favourites are Tembo, chill guy Eddie and Malcolm, like these three are the only ones having a brain and my boy Eddie gets merc'd first BECAUSE OF FUCKING NICK. I'm telling you, he's Syringe bitch tier.)
I will say, in regards to the trex baby getting kidnapped like two or three times in the course of the movie, the Ingen hunters DID start the troubles by capturing the baby and using it as bait, (though we don't see them breaking the baby's leg so idk who did that.)
But Nick made EVERYTHING worse.
So the hunters capture a lot of dino's right? Keep em in... very easy to break open cages... (I swear, this movie is nonstop Derry moments or just straight up Derry characters... even Tembo and Malcolm have their idiot moments, not Eddie that I recall)
Nicker just frees the dinosaurs... and causes havoc! THEN NICKER just nabs the baby trex and brings it to the fucking truck that Malcolm's gang came in on the island.
Just-
>>59381910
Y-you fukcing ASSHOLE! YOU LURED INTO A TRAP YOU RAPTOR SONABITCH I WILL HAUNT YOU MUDAFUCKKA!!!
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>>59381910
You can take inspiration from good book too you know? Just saying this because I've been rereading Tiger! Tiger! and I'm only know realizing how big of an influence it and Brave new World were on me. Both in themes and literal events that happen.
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>>59381904
how would other sports work with Pokemon added?
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>>59381973
Of course. My entire approach to storytelling got completely morphed by ASOIAF honestly, hence the ridiculous worldbuilding and “fuck the MC” story elements I throw in there. Some of the action scenes are inspired by movies or TV, but usually they’re pretty organically conceived. Having Ultra Storms be kinda random lets me get to do all sorts of things. Kind of a Pokemon hipster’s dream.
>>59381966
Give me all of the Crow Stare!
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>>59381966
(cont'd)
So anyway because of NICKER, the dinosaurs destroy much equipment of the hunters (including radio instruments >:( ) and by bring the baby trex to the truck, he just attracted mommy and daddy trex... I just- HE CAUSES SO MUCH BULLSHIT, it's unreal.
So they heal the baby (the ecocunt and SARAH)
Baby cries out, and the fucking girl THEN realises that the situation's fucked beyond recognition. Oh, NOW you want out you stupid hoe?? So she goes ino this cage thing with Eddie, while Malcolm eventually that cage to check on the hte other two in the truck. The the MOTHERFUCKING TREXES ENTER and it's a good scene, not just cause of the rexes being in the fucking right and their protective behaviour but also the suffering of SARAH and NICKER. Eddie tries to fucking save them, cause the rexes bumped their truck of a cliff (Yeah, they're retards for parking there cuz... bro, really?)
EDDIE THE FUARKING HERO tries to save these retards... and gets killed for it. Dude gets bitten in half and then the movie essentially forgets about him... MY BOYYYY T_T

I swear the first half of the movie is straight up rage bait. ANd EVEN THEN IT HAS RETARDED MOMENTS LIKE WTF.
So by helping the baby rec, SARAH (who's actually alright after the midpoint, mostly cuz she stops talking nonsense) has blood on her shirt... and btw I think she said to some other paleontology guy brought by the hunters that rexes have good smell so they basically know their location... TEMBO notices this and says 'ayo dat your blood hoe?'
Replies the Hoe: 'Nah, not my time of month yet, it's from helping the lil Rexy.'
ANd that's it.... Then they later get ambushed by the rexes and just- I hate them somethimes because wtf.
Btw, Tembo also just let's go of his gun?? and leaves it unattended next to NICKER (who already tried to take his gun away earlier) and then, when the rexes abush the party, his rifle has empty casings.... like bruh.
Anyway-
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>>59381902
>>59381966
>>59382025
To any wannabe writefags, this is a teaser for CCbro’s dissections of your WIP if you ever decide to post it. It’s absurdly fun to read, and CCbro will have his own set of slurs for your characters. Also drawings. Highly recommended.
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>>59382052
To remide me, he already termed "Rice-cell" for Rhys, but that doesn't make sense. In universe everyone is speaking fantasy japanese, so:
>Rhys/Rizu
Doesn't sound like:
>Rice/Gohan
There's not a lot of international mass media either, so Unova and Galar wouldn't have that big of an influence on them either.
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>>59382025
Raptors!
Raptorbros decimate the humans and forces the protagonists to split up. (Oh, they essentially have to the interior of the island just to get radio or whatver to contact for a helicopter, cuz NICKER destroyed not just the hunters' radio via dinos, he destroyed their OWN radios and equipment who were on the truck via MOTHERFUCKING TREXES)
(There's also that immensely retarded scene of Malcolm's daughter killing a raptor via gymnastics... actual brainrot.)
So anyway, most of the humans die and what remains gets saved by the Ingen coppers... However, Tembo did manage to tranq one of the MOTHERFUCKING TREXES and once again the baby gets kidnapped. They both get shipped off to San Diego cuz Ludlow is retarded too (Hammond nephew who booted him off his own project lmao)
Then Tembo and NICKER just, disappear from the movie I guess. (I AM HONESTLY SO LIVID NICKER LEFT THE MOVIE ALIVE, LIKE ACTUALLY-)
So the San Diego incident; Cool as fuck!
Sarah isn't retarded anymore and thank God Malcolm's daughter isn't there either or just not important (seriously, aside from that one retarded scene, what purpose does she fill?)
Anywho, Ludlow tries one more time to kidnap the baby, but gets his leg broken by the father REX and then gets chomped on by baby REX.
All in all, half rage bait, half allright.

Also watched 3. Mid. Will forget in a week. Blonde character was mostly retarded. Loved the Spino's AURA and WILL to kill the humans though
>>59382008
Fuck you, I can feel your malice forming into a smile you sick fuck. You're worse than the IMOdemiurge.
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>>59382073
...I just essayposted in the fucking thread... I'm sorry bros T_T I won't do it again.
>>59382065
>but that doesn't make sense.
>nerd.jpg
You speak as if I care, Riceanon.
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>>59382073
Not sure which I’m more excited for, your reactions to Tyrunt trying to eat Ian or Colress being a mad scientist bro.
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>>59382088
Don't worry, you're a treat. Even if your cursive IS really gay.
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>>59381835
>Hate conflicts where a simple talk could have solved every misunderstanding.
FFfag here, it wouldn't have made a difference if they talked it out.

SPOILER FOR CHAPTER 1

Garland intending to sacrifice himself instead of the Sarah doesn't change anything, as Wol would have still fought him to keep him from sacrificing himself. Garland realized this so he said fuck it lets just get on with fighting. Events would have played out exactly the same and Garland decided that he'd rather fight Wol one final time being seen as a madman than a suicidal pussy.

I kind of leave a lot of this unsaid in the fic itself because I'd rather readers come to their own conclusions about stuff. That runs the risk of it not clicking for some readers of course, or me not laying down subtext well enough, but it is what it is. Plus some more background info that won't ever actually come up in the fic itself here, but Garland had already completed the ritual before Wol arrived so even if they had just sat and talked nothing would have changed. Even if Wol never showed up events would have played out the same way. The ancient pokemon's resurrection was impossible from the start. The tragedy of Wol's fate as the Warrior of Light is that nothing he did would have mattered, and by all accounts he objectively failed. A part of him knows that, but he is still crowned the hero regardless.

But there is another side to that coin.
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>>59382108
The other side of the coin of the tragedy of Wol vs Garland is that Wol did show up. He did arrive to save Sarah, to try and stop his friend's madness. A part of Garland was happy to see Wol and battle him one last time just like the old days. Sarah was touched to discover that Wol had come to save her, and they were there to comfort each other afterwards. Wol was destined to fail, destined to become the Warrior of Light, but he was not destined to be their for his friends when they needed him. Those were his own actions. Squirtle chose him because of his own actions, he is respected as the leader of the knights because of his actions, he is loved by Sarah for his actions. The Warrior of Light is a cog in the grand wheels of fate, but Wol a hero is for the things he does for others that will never be recorded in the pages of history.
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>>59382113
WoL chose to fuck both Sarah and Jane, out of his own actions.
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>>59382092
Colress? Fucking who-
>>59382103
>Even if your cursive IS really gay.
Huh?! What does that even mean-
Nah, I'm outta here, sayonara suckers!
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Reminder that only pedophiles and tranny groomers write in cursive.
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>greenfag is the ragebaiter
color me surprised
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>>59382179
He pretends to be honest and innocent but he's trash underneath the facade.
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>Greenfag still mindbroken by CCfag
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Green is BUILT for BBC. Thank you very much for your attention!
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>>59378978
Don't be a coward, Anon, if you can convince me to read it, you can do anything.
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>>59381346
I completely forgot to respond to this when I read it earlier because I went on a tangent about Garland. Whoops. I'm very excited to see you read it and then slammed my head into the wall that the flashbacks remain a point of contention for readers. I'm finally willing to admit that the flashbacks could probably be improved, but I'm not going to fall for the rewrite trap with only 7 chapters out. I was pleasantly surprised to see you read two chapters in one day which felt like a big thumbs up for chapter 6. Two anons leaving comments on the same day also fueled the fire to stop pissing around and start the next chapter. Thanks for the honest review.

>>59381835
>Also those specific Pokemon choosing you and thereby seemingly making you fated to become an army leader makes the accomplishment of reaching that status pretty lame, but alright.
And while I'm here, that was literally inspired by King Arthur and the sword in the stone but with pokemon instead. So another thing to blame on the English.
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>>59381861
>>59381858
While I remember, there is also this episode of Pokemon Evolutions that could work for some inspiration. It's not a contest, but a play by the Kimono girls about the Burned Tower.

https://youtu.be/hwq6shJVpDE?is=2DYF7fZ2lW4tSA5d
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>claims other anon is ragebaiting
>samefags several times attempting to ragebait them unprovoked
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>>59382601
btw, Selloutsfag is right, I would have succumbed in the first chapter and called WoL the wall of Corneria.
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>>59382634
This is very funny to see linked here because it's important homework I've studied for my fic, but it has nothing to do with contests.
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>>59382643
There was a Wol--wool joke in one of the chapters, maybe around 4-5, which does reveal a little about the accent I'm supposed to read this story in.
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>>59382640
That is just what pure unfiltered schizophrenia looks like. There's no point in engaging with that.
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Guys, is Guzzlord a dindu noffing or a true cosmic horror with no end? I kind of want to use the whole "destroyer of worlds" that fucks off to the next when he's done eating one
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>>59382733
Guzzlord's a dindu, but who cares what canon says.
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Which Pokemon would do this?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ngogo_chimpanzee_war
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I like the vibes of this one, came out yesterday.
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>>59382758
Sneasel, Weaviles, and Sneaslers.

>>59382658
Same.
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>Next chapter takes place in a desert
>Tempted more than ever to put a ranbdom Maractus in it because I like to think I’m a Pokemon hipster and want to reference Sellouts
>Even though I haven’t read it (yet)
Never expected that would be my first (very minor) threadfic reference.but it is lmao
>>59382643
I wouldn’t have been able to resist either.
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>>59382710
I must have missed that, which is bad because presumably I'm the one who would have wrote it. I really need to reread my own fic before I get back to writing it. I've thought so much about what I intend to write that I've forgotten what I've actually already written.
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Pawchive is the new kemono so if anyone is reading stuff like Spoon or Hard Enough, know that you can probably start reading patreon chapters again.
Publicly available HE chapters are almost 100 chapters and over a year behind Patreon
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>>59383005
Is anyone here actually keeping up with eternal fics like Hard Enough?
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>>59383015
>318 publicly available chapters
>1.9 million words in those chapters
>6k words per chapter average
>100 more chapters puts it at 2.5 million words
Holy hell how is there still a story to tell that isn’t “Wheel of Time” tier in scope?
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>>59383098
Maybe it's like One Piece, multiple similar plots stitched together ad infinitum
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>>59383098
The public chapter word count is already 2 Harry Potter's. That's an entire Coiling Dragon right there.
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>>59383098
still doesn't beat These Silver Eyes with almost a million words in only 55 chapters
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>>59382931
Don't worry, just larp blood meridian and you should be fine.
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>>59382758
Malamar's Pokedex entries say they have started wars in the past
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>mfw i want my MC to do irl media references
>mfw he's an isekai MC so all he would get from everyone is confusion
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>>59383582
Let your MC be cringe and confuse people.
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>>59383582
Unless you're just doing burger sitcoms there's a chance they already have something similar, they have Kamen Raider movies, alien movies, anime, manga and videogames
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>>59383582
Maybe make him think of the references but not say it out loud?
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>>59383582
that's how natives identify isekaijin to then purge them, so watch out
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>>59382758
>People used to mistake Oranguru for a human when they saw it issue command after command to the other Pokémon of the forest
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I love my wife Green.
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>>59383005
Thanks for the heads-up, anon.
I had no idea a replacement had been made.
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>>59383582
But that's the fun part?
I fail to understand how that is an issue.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OrphanedEtymology
It's even on TVTropes.
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>>59383582
I simply make the references I want fit in-universe. GaoGaiGar is an actual show in my fic, the only difference being there's Pokemon involved.
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>59383738
>59383756
BUILT FOR BBC.
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>>59383582
It doesn't matter if it's played for laughs
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How do you imagine the bonds between pokemon and trainers work? Like a weak psychic link or something else?
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>>59383837
>Like a weak psychic link
Yeah but it should be typeless, so like one but not actually psychic
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>>59383837
A spiritual bond where they can support you even when you're alone
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>>59383707
Shady monkey fella
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>>59383582
My MC does that, but only when the line fits and it's something he's always wanted to say seriously.

He's downright confused that the kids are still spouting out DBZ lines despite the show not existing there, but that just lets him turn the tables on them that much easier.
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>>59384274
>>My MC does that, but only when the line fits and it's something he's always wanted to say seriously.
Like?

>He's downright confused that the kids are still spouting out DBZ lines despite the show not existing there, but that just lets him turn the tables on them that much easier.
I don't get what this means.
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>>59383582
>Her son was in the yard acquainting himself with his little Nidoran. A loud exclamation had Alice snorting at the absurdity of his words.

>"'The Horn Drill that Pierces the Heavens'? Be the Kamina to your Simon? What is that boy shouting about?" Shaking her head at his strangeness, Alice couldn't help but smile at how happy he looked.
If your son does this, take him right away to the local medium and ask them for an exorcism
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>>59384298
This is the correct approach, but specifically because the isekaijin is referencing Gurren Lagann and not Getter Robo or Gunbuster.
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>>59379144
Bigger means more powerful, everyone knows that
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There should be more trainers that are specialists in defeating other types, like Georgia from BW anime who was a dragonslayer. For example, a bug exterminator that uses Ice and Fire types because loathes the Bug type
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Your heroes and villains (or protagonists and antagonists) have been reversed in roles, what does your fic look like now?
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>>59384519
Lebanne is the inverse of this. Spent her whole life training to master Dragon-types then sought out a Fairy-type master to submit t-er, I mean, challenge.



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