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Century Of Malamar Humiliation Edition

Pokémon Champions is a free to play online battle simulator available on Switch with a mobile release later. It features ranked, casual and private battles for both singles and doubles, and will be used for VGC tournaments in 2026.

>News
Pokemon Champions is out on mobile devices
Regulation M-B has begun, bringing in a new wave of Pokémon, items, and cosmetics.
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>Resources and useful links
Community Tournaments usage data: https://pikalytics.com/
Ladder usage data: https://pokechamdb.com/en
New Player Guide(NEW PEOPLE READ THIS):
https://rentry.org/pcg-guide (now taking suggestions and feedback)

Quick FAQ
>Do I need my own Pokémon to play?
No, the game features a recruitment system, but transferring from Home is recommended to save time and resources.
>What makes the game so much more accessible than before?
All aspects of a Pokémon are customizable with VP, a currency earned simply by playing the game. IVs are also removed.
Ask in the thread if you want any specific Pokémon, and someone will respond.
>Is there single player content?
No.
>Do I need a Nintendo Online subscription?
No.
>What's the starter pack?
US$6.99 one time purchase for 50 training tickets (fully train for free), 30 Teammate Tickets (recruit Pokemon without using VP), 50 extra box space and the LGPE trainer music.
>Is anything locked behind a paywall?
So far everything gameplay relevant is also purchasable with VP. Mega Kalos starters and E-Floette requires ZA transfer.

>/pcg/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread):
https://pastebin.com/d2FJZdPh

Previous: >>59380794
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Happy that my boy Mega Sceptile is seeing some use, albeit pretty niche with a Discharge partner.
I do still wish it had a different Ability or got some other new moves aside from Earth Power.
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Make it rain did not need to get nerfed
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>>59383452
>t. gholdengo
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>>59383452
It wasn't as necessary as the rest of the big nerfs (other than Garg), but still appreciated.
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>https://teamsheet.gg/t/sample-beginner-reg-b-vl3698
To all newfrens who literally just installed, just use this team for free and farm wins early on.
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>>59383452
>
>>59383460
the garg nerf was fucking bullshit, seriously.
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>>59383452
should have made it 90 accuracy with a 30% chance to flinch
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>>59383452
it should boost vp gained after battle
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Mega Gholdengo with Contrary
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>>59383436
being used to ZardY Heat wave makes M Froslass Blizzard feel kind of weak
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>>59383488
I'm also thinking about running Frost breath to go through screens and drops but I'm well aware that it's kind of a meme
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>+30 Sp.Atk
>Still less than 100
>Nasty Plot can't work with Contrary
>BIG BRAIN Pokemon is best as a Physical Attacker
My final cope is that Pokemon stats can be reworked in future updates...
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I don't have a Switch but I do have a 3DS, is it still possible to gen mons there and send them over to Home on my phone?
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>>59383511
Yeah but you need a home subscription to send it from 3ds bank to home. What I did was get one of my friends with a switch to trade with one of those trade bots that just send you any pokemon you want then trade it over to me on home.
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>play rough misses at the most crucial moment
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>>59383534
well I could part with 3 bucks for the convenience
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>>59383539
It feels good in general to play mega Mawille with the opponents underestimating the kills I can get but it's stressfull having to count on Play Rough so often.
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>lead horrendously
>still win because I got every read right since he probably just installed and will do the obvious play every single turn, purely because its venusaur charizard-Y
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If you play Champions in vertical mode you never have to see Tatora again
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>>59383553
The scaling leaves something to be desired.
And when you put it like this, it really highlights how the main page shows basically nothing of note. Why not let us have our favourite mon on the side or something
Even the upcoming Alysion gets this
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>Opponent has Alolan Ninetales
>Sees my Ninetales Mega Pyroar in team preview so he puts his A-Ninetales in the back
>Switches it in turn 1 to deny sun boosted damage
>Gets fucking double oneshotted by Heat Wave anyways
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at what rating are you considered decent at the game
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>>59383553
>if you go to hell you will never see your wife again
umm ok
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>>59383436
>Rollmaster is a big-tittied cowgirl who owns a ranch (of Pokemon)
Is she the best Rollmaster yet?
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>>59383568
What really matters is your rank which won't show until a few days
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Daily missions:
Use 5 retardedly effective moves - 5 VP
Forfeit 50 matches - 1 Training Ticket
Kill your own pokemon - 1 Training Ticket
Spend $5000 - 1000 VP
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>>59383553
How
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>>59383579
The mission system reveals itself as a waste early on. The real VP grinding is to be done in the achievements page, lots of easy 500VP claims just for making a monotype team and doing like 3 battles, then making a different monotype team and doing 3 more battles, etc.
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>the unreasonable effectiveness of just clicking spread moves on both slots every turn
Eruption discharge eruption discharge hyper voice rock slide hyper voice rock slide
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>>59383436
How do you realistically counter that stat spread without resorting to ubers?
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>>59383632
*Wide guards you*
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>>59383553
Based.
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>>59383647
Yeah but nobody does. That’s the thing. Wide guard is not as prevalent as it needs to be. Typically teams have one wide guard user; all you have to do is click a spread move, and then also single-target the wide guard user. You force it to sit there clicking wide guard until it’s dead, or else immediately let its teammate take damage. And the cost to you is minimal.
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Wide guard was much more precious in Reg I.
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>32 Atk Life Orb Arcanine-Hisui Head Smash vs. 2 HP / 0 Def Multiscale Dragonite: 160-188 (95.2 - 111.9%) -- 75% chance to OHKO
>jolly btw
This pokemon is fucking insane in BSS
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I haven't touched Champions in like a month since the end of the first season. What am I in for if I download it on mobile?
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>>59383689
You are in a game called Pokemon Champions
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59383689
No one cares
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>>59383689
Bird of rape
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>>59383568
Qualified for second day of Worlds.
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Can an anon help a newphonefag get a Floette? much love
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>waste dev time adding a bunch of pokemon that literally cannot win no matter what without even trying to give them anything that can make them remotely usable and end up only having a couple dozen that can even be considered by anyone to use even though you already put all of the time and money into making the 3d models and everything for all of the shit pokemon that are just dogshit so no one would ever pick them
I do not get it
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Toucannon with a sash is really funny, one shots Swampert and Charizard and beak blasts burn messes with some other Pokemon. It’s not “good” but it’s funny.
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>>59383694
Can a Mega Gardevoir survive 1 (one) Brave Bird from this fucker?
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>>59383452
Yes it did because fuck Gholdenho in General
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Can someone explain why chrizards fire punch doesn't work on ceruledge?
Is that the ghost typing?
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>>59383790
flash fire
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>>59383790
Do you not see the big Flash Fire notification?
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>>59383749
sent
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>>59383761
Funny > good, because laughing > winning
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no thoughts, just outrage
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Just lost to a Sash Kingambit. Mobilefags are terrifying
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>>59383839
Sash Gambit has been a thing for a while
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>>59383844
What the fuck why? Just for the Giraffe?
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>>59383851
So they can run lots of speed, run 4 attacks and not get OHKOd by things like Charizard
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>>59383761
I'm assuming you mean it KOs Zard rock blast because beak blast isn't doing in the bulky Zards from MA even with Adamant +32 and Life Orb.
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>tatsugiri and golisopod with the remaining presumably busted megas
golisopod might end up being insane but what about tatsugiri? ive seen drizzle as an option, would a drizzle mega really be that broken?
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>>59383874
Golisopod has water bubble. Tatsu wont have drizzle it'll have something thematic
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>>59383876
is this a schizo post or is there an actual source, i know some people were saying the most recent mega abilities were leaked and confirmed so didnt know if golisopod was in that list
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>dark type hoodlum gangster pokemon
>cant learn sucker punch
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DURRRRRRRRR ME PRESSF EARFTPHTHQUAKE ME PESS BIZZARD AAAHHH DAAAHHHHHHH PRETHSTH AAAAAH OBER HEA DUHHHHHHH UHHH DUUUUUUUUHHHH AM A FUUUUUCKIIIINGGG REEEEEETAAAAAAARRRERRD
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>>59383889
So what you lose to?
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>>59383880
I do predictions and statistics for a living and all data points to golisopod having water bubble. Releasing it with the last batch of megas aka the busted retard strength megas was the last thing I needed. Its releasing with the 151 speed garchomp absol and lucario z. Zard chomp raper thermal exchange baxcalibur. And raid boss tatsugiri. If it had anything lesser than water bubble it wouldve released in mb.
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PRETS wwWOCQK SIDEUHH
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Where the fuck is Metronome?
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>>59383893
I don't see Bax making a big splash, but Tatsu Dozo is going to be ass to deal with and everyone will probably have to run Haze again.
You finally finish off Dozo and Tatsu pops out to mega. It's going to suck, the only benefit is Dozo can't escape its weaknesses.
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>>59383893
Okay but counterpoint, M-Golisopods stats and typing are so batshit that anything that isn't Emergency Exit or Slow Start will probably make it insane. You could give it Shell/Battle Armor and it'd be considered good.
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>>59383892
PREH ERQUAY PREH ERQUAY!
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>>59383906
Just buy it in the shop, anon :)
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>>59383914
Sounds like a job for
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>>59383874
m-golisopod ability options could be
>emergency exit 3 (even if they give it a regenerator effect its still joever)
>tough claws (most reasonable for non-exit ability)
>water bubble (best option but very unlikely)
>unseen fist (reference to its hidden arms/pokedex entry)
>battle armor (kek)
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>>59383914
Too many fire types would immediately kill it and its speed is in a tier where it gets fucked by zard normally and even trick roomed camerupt and torkoal dab on it. Water bubble will keep it safe enough to live a fire heavy pokemon world and keep it safe from burns while giving aqua jet much needed stab damage. Also the mega will say something like it doesn't run anymore because of the bubble and iron body.

The only possible other ability it could get would be something that invalidates psy terrain or mold breaker for giraffe but its a low low chance
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>>59383923
oh fuck i forgot defeatist existed. and would fit with the whole "ability proccing at losing 50% hp". it at least has its massive defensive so its not totally cucked but this would suck dick
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>>59383924
oh and regenerator as kind of another obvious ability
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>>59383887
>Released at the same time as contrary-bird
>His only selling point is the double intimidate + fo
>Waste of a mega in TR, too slow to go anywhere else
Game was rigged from the start
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Is there no other way of getting the music in game besides paying money?
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>>59384008
Nope. Enjoy your trainer battle music of pay up.
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>>59384008
there is 3 new tracks for 5k vp each
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>>59384008
turn the ingame music slider to 0 then play your favorite battle music on youtube in the background
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thinkgen bout soak wide guard arachquanid in tr with m-elektross
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>>59384032
Thank you
>>59384037
I’m aware that’s an option hence the “in game” part of the question. I’d just prefer it to all be in the app before resorting to that
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>>59383889
Sir, you're wideguard?
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Weird request, but would anyone happen to have a Tsareena available to give away?
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>>59384092
Any specific nature/moves/balls you want on it?
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I hate that Mega Garchomp is so fucking shit man.
It doesn't deserve to be such a shitmon while Mega Metagross, Mega Salemence and Mega Baxcalibur exist with their stupid spreads and god-tier abilities.
It's not fucking fair. Give it a real fucking Ability. Give it Sharpness. Give it Sand Rush. Give it a fucking fanfic romhack 10-in-1 ability that mixes Sand Rush and Sand Force. Give it an actual fucking unique special snowflake move signature move that's 10-in-1 too.
And fix base Garchomp abilities for that fucking matter too. Fucking Sand Veil. Fuck off. And no Rough Skin is not a "good" ability. It's better than "nothing" but it's most certainly not something to die over for.
The worst part is that Garchomp Z will likely be shit too because for some godforsaken reason GF still thinks this is Gen 4 and therefore means Garchomp is SO BROKEN it needs to be "balanced" so as to not break the game while on the same breath keep making all sorts of min-maxed romhack-tier fakemons. They already fucked over it by making it fucking mono-dragon too. No bro trust me Dragons are STILL broken they need to be BALANCED bro now watch us make a Fairy/Ground with Flutter Mane spread for Gen 10.
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>>59384110
Adamant if possible, but if not it's fine, I have the VP for it
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>>59384148
Cant find your rotom, think someone traded it already
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Can you see your opponents' pokemons' battle names?
I assume so since the game will gripe at you about "inappropriate" names, but I haven't seen any enemy pokemon with non-default names yet.
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>>59384150
Oh, I forgot to send it when I took the pic like a dumbass

Should be there now
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>>59384161
sent
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>>59384160
Yeah give it some time. There were a lot of posts of wacky names at the beginning around the internet.
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>>59384167
A shiny too, thank you so much!
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>on a 6 win streak
>in a dominant position
>about to switch out Sinistcha
>accidentally switched my boosted Staraptor instead
Instantly forfeited out of shame.
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>>59384178
>playing trannytcha
>playing homoraptor
>lost
deserved
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>>59384143
Bro garchomp is already the number one mon in both singles and doubles
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>>59384183
Would it make you feel better if I told you the opponent was also using Staraptor?
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>>59384143
Rough Skin saved my ass too much to be insulted like this.
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It turns out Pikachu's stats are low enough that he can be used for a FEAR mon.
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built this team as a meme because id never have thought i would be able to build 2 full ones with just 18 without more than 1 overlap but it turns out its a lot of fun
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>>59384143
>garchomp downplay
lmao
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>>59384191
Only because Landorus doesn't exist in Champions yet. And that's just the replacement, because then there's stuff like Flutter Mane and Chien Pao that would nuke it from any usage rankings.
They really should just give it DD already. It's like three gens late for it to be broken anymore.
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I've been having fun running this trick room team, but I feel like mega meganium is only really good for booming that damn fish. was thinking of trying out mega swampert instead, and use kinggambit as my answer to fish while swampert can be my fire pivot mon because I have lots of fire weakness. how does swampert do out of rain?
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Does Beat Up hit 6 times in singles, or only 3?
I'm not sure what the game considers to be "your team".
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>>59384239
3
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>>59384238
oh that's an old image I gave kinggambit the fighting type move berry so he doesn't explode so easily
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>>59384245
That's kind of a serious nerf.
Was the move changed at all to compensate for that? Is it even still worth using?
I was planning to do a Beat Up + King's Rock Krookodile thing.
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Just lost and put a hole in the wall, I will not be playing again
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>>59384209
Any advice for this team? Mega Metagross feels underwhelming because I lack support like screens or coaching
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party list order is randomized for opponents, right?
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Starapter wins games
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>>59383452
No, it did and it was a fair nerf.
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>>59384143
>trashing rough skin
this is how i know you're a shitter and doesn't understand the value of chip damage on physical attackers
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>>59383791
>>59383793
>Do you not see the big Flash Fire notification?
Lol. Im blind
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>>59383754
Most Pokemon haven't had their 3d models updated since Pokedex 3D on the 3DS. Everyone said it was stupid to make 10k poly models for a 3DS game and there'd be no reason to future proof them that hard, but it actually it worked out, even if it made the performance of the 3DS games shit.
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>>59384225
Garchomp is fast, strong and bulky, Rough Skin is a dumb ability that shouldn't exist but unfortunately, it does and for great use. It doesn't need any buffs. If you want to buff any pseudo, you should give Goodra Recover, it's the ONLY slugmon without Recover because GF horrible balancing decisions. Garchomp never had a bad display.
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>>59383790
>>59384295
the fact that you attributed it not working because its a ghost type over anything else is really fucking funny, never change /vp/
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>>59384266
Mega Metagross works really well when it's not your main mega and it's there to cover your main's weaknesses. Like if your other mega is weak to fairy and you can capitalize on your opponent leading a fairy into it, so you lead Metagross instead. Every coaching setup I've seen for it just seems to lose to Garchomp + Incin, and losing to the most common of common splashable Pokemon doesn't feel great.
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I feel like I cant start playing Champions until I catch the Pokemon I'm going to use in the regular games and transferring it over to it from Home. How do I fix this autism
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>>59384319
it's the easiest way to get the stuff you want, otherwise you gotta spin the wheel and hope you hit. can only recruit one mon per spin too. thankfully I have a friend who has loads of stuff so he hooked me up with basically everything I wanted except for an incineroar, basculegion and floette.
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>>59384319
Play casual battles until you get the team you want from the games if you don't wanna use/wait on ranch mons. Also you can embrace balltism if you go this route, pick a ball theme for all your mons to be in to motivate you. I'm hoping to eventually do a Beast Ball team myself (daring today, I know), but for now settled on a Luxury/Cherish ball mix.
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>had three mons on my team that I'm happy with
>swapped the other three out for things that should in theory cover my weakpoints
>not sure when to field them
Say I have a Raichu to counter rain teams, is it okay to have it purely for rain team matchups, or should I maybe diversify his set to cover more ground?
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>>59384292
So if you had to pick between Rough Skin and Tough Claws or Good as Gold or Adaptability or Speed Boost or Prankster or Shadow Tag or Huge Power or Guts or Arena Trap or Sheer Force or Magic Guard you'd pick Rough Skin? Okay lol, totes.
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>>59383830
>outrage
>on a special attacker that's not even usable atm
>outrage
>ever
shiggy diggy
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It is morally correct to always learn thunder punch on anyone that can learn it
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>archaludon
>sinistcha
>basculegion
>garchomp
>grimmsnarl
>gholdengo
>incineroar
>primarina
>meowscarada
>farigiraf
>kingambit
>sneasler
>mega gengar
>mega charizard y
>mega starraptor
>mega eelektross
>mega floette
if you use any of these you aren't really playing the game
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>>59384354
who the fuck runs primarina lmao
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>>59384183
kill yourself
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>>59384354
>not listing fucking whimsicott
anyways what's wrong with meowscarada?
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>>59384349
didn't even notice that was mega garchomp thats how thoughts are going throught my head (zero)
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>>59384354
What if I always open with tinkaton in singles no matter the match up?
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>>59384354
>nooooooo you must use shitmons, you can't use strong pokemons because... you just can't ok?
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>>59384363
>whimsicott
it's not half as annoying as people say it is
>meowscarada
>le fast strong cat with le protean and le move that always crits
>>59384371
nobody plays singles
>>59384375
you should invite your friends over to play monopoly and tip the board over on turn 1 if you have any friends
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>>59384341
>so if you had to choose between a strong ability or one of the strongest abilities which would you choose
Do you not see how you sound?
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I run 6 eeveelutions but you probably would still call me a faggot for having Sylveon there
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>>59384384
yes but only because of the colors
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A Mega Dragalge tanked a Psychic from my 32 Modest Mega Gardevoir and killed it with crit Sludge Bomb, that thing really is the cancer Pokémon.
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>>59384390
163 base Sp Def ain't nothing to fuck with.
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>>59384375
>she can only win with the meta fotm mons
cant relate
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Glad I took the doublespill, singles is way too monotonous and i HATE the furfag grass cat.
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So the app says that if you bring a pokemon to Champions and train it up, then send it back to Home, it will still have all the moves you set and everything the next time it comes back to Champions.
But what if you send it to someone ELSE?

If you put a moveset on a mon in Champions, then transfer it back to Home and GTS it to someone, can that person put the mon in Champions and see the moveset you originally set up for it?
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>>59384354
If you hate those mons, make teams that give them a difficult time
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>>59384380
>not half as annoying as people say it is
>t.whimsicottfan43
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I really want my nig bronzong in the game
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>>59384354
>in the clear
ez game
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>>59384420
I thought you can't transfer anything back to Home from Champions
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Got to MB pretty easily for a noob who only played comp singles my whole life, just worried the bros (all females btw) that got me there will be powercrept out if the game as they add more and more but at the same time i'd probably find some new mons to have fun with
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>>59384437
It's not really a "transfer" in the first place.
When you send a pokemon from Home to Champions, it stays in Home and continues taking up space there. It just becomes greyed out and gets a little badge signifying that it's "visiting" Champions.
While it's in Champions, you can't do anything with it in Home like putting it up for Trade or sending it to other games.
At any time you want, you can go to the recruitment screen in Champions to select visiting pokemon to send back to Home, at which point they leave Champions and, in Home, lose that little "currently visiting Champions" badge.
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If you hate dealing with charizard y, Wide Guard araquanid trolls it pretty hard, lunge is good to weaken physical threats that aren't mega staraptor or have defiant, good speed for trick room too
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What do you think about this team?
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>>59384354
if you lose to eelektross that's entirely on you
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>>59384463
I think that you should always have another rain settler beyond pelipper. What are you going to do if I control weather and your bird is dead, pray?
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>>59384354
>Just stop using good 'mons!
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>>59384463
rain team, never seen one of those before.
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Will-O-Wisp not missing losing me the game, impossible challenge
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>>59384470
Good point. I may add Rain Dance on Overqwil. Thanks anon.
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>>59384479
Try scald burning you three times in a row.
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I love Maushold. Who would make good partners for them in singles?
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>don't win a TR game before TR ends
>me trying to put back up TR is outlandishly obvious and punishable

what do
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working on a doubles team as a newfag who loves aurorus. is there any other sweeper i can use over garchomp that can take care of palafin / water carries?
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>>59384382
>Strong ability
Okay lol
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Is the grind in z-a worth it for mega floette? Will I really get to masterball pretty easy with them?
I'm kinda getting scrubbed by ultra ball 4
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>>59384495
Try and get into a position you can end outside TR
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>>59384505
You can get to Master Ball without it. If you're hurting for a Fairy Type, just use Sylveon or Primarina.
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Is Gallade better on Trick Room teams or teams that need emergency speed control? life orb + sharpness sounds fun but i'd probably end up putting a sash on it
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>>59384498
>maushold
needs <Follow me>
needs <protect>
drop tidy up, noone uses hazards.
>Aurorus
needs <Blizzard>
needs <protect>
pokemon is too slow for you to ever benefit from the occasional flinch provided from <Zen headbutt> and aurorus is a s.attacker

and furthermore, to help you vs watermons, add <Freeze Dry> to aurorus

>scrafty
again, slow af pokemon to benefit from rock slide flintchs, and needs <knock off>
>aegislash
wtf is up to you and rock slide? drop it, again its a slow mon you wont flinch shit. needs <sacred sword> and <shadow sneak>
>garchomp
you don’t need sword dance, he already hits like a truck. add <protect>
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>>59384505
eternal floette is mandatory at ultra ball and above
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Any anon with a spare Mawile around?
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Where do you guys get your teambuilding info?
I'm quite new and seem to be stalled at ultra ball.
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>>59384559
I mostly just make my own using the in-game data. Channels like Cybertron and Pokeaim are good for learning how to use specific mons.
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>>59384554
I could breed one for you in exchange for a Tsareena or Overqwil, if you can get your hands on either of those.
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>>59384559
pikalytics.com
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>>59384566
Sorry anon, phonefag and my last Nintendo console was the GBA SP so don't really have anything actually worth a fair trade.
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>>59384571
Well I've already got the eggs, so you're getting one anyway.
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>>59384568
If you play Ahclemm you're a faggot btw
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>>59384575
where the fuck did that come from?
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>>59384553
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>>59384505
Put something up on the gts I can send one to you
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I'd ask for a handout but I've kinda been lucky with my daily gacha as well as trades on Home.
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>>59384574
Thanks a lot. Been burning through all my tickets from the beginner missions trying to get her to no luck.
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Opponent having their team named after soccer players prompted me to name my Skelidirge Lewis Skelli
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Why the fuck does mega Elektross get two abilities? Such fucking horse shit.
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>>59384559
All head calculations b.
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>>59384592
He's just a cool dude
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>>59384592
He needs it.
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>>59384596
Seething with jealousy I am.
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>>59384602
What about Malamar, Ampharos, Scolipede, Crabominable?

FUCK
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>>59384594
>>59384563
how do I get a bf who helps me with this stuff? I just wanna have cute mons while also winning?
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>>59384607
>Crabominable
i doubt this abomination sells plushies
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>>59384617
mega would
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>>59384319
There is literally a guide earlier in the thread on how to ladder climb with the pokemon you get for free at the start
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>>59384614
I won't be your bf but you can always just ask here for actual advice. Just be clear on what you're looking for in terms of mons and what mons in particular you're having trouble dealing with.
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>>59384554
>>59384588
Did someone already fill the trade? I can't find the listing.
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>>59384635
Still there on my end. Should I relist?
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What's with people crying about "waaa being given pokemon ruins the bond growing aspect with muh pixels" when if anything playing comp and your bro clutching it out is way more satisfying than steamroing NPCs that 5 year olds can beat
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>>59384354
>Meowscarada
Nobody uses that pokemon
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>>59384617
Elektross plushes wouldn't sell either. Why did that fucking ass hat get special treatment? This is starting to become a conspiracy against ol' Ampharos, it's just not right.
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>>59384639
No, I think I found it. I had to search by listings that wanted a Mawile rather than listings that were offering Pikachus.
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>>59384647
Got her. Thanks again anon.
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Still in great ball tier but I'm enjoying the game
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>>59384354
Nah, I'm just going to stomp you lmao
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If anyone does have a Tsareena or Overqwil laying around, I'd appreciate it.
I don't own any games past XY, so I can't breed any of the newer stuff.
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I can bring any jobber into pokemon home and do the training stuff in champions right? I get it doesnt actually keep the stats in home
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Been trying to play single battles with a pure Normal team and it's been rough. Mega Staraptor helps (even if it loses its Normal typing after it mega evolves), but I only feel confident in using Hisuian Zoroark, Ditto, Staraptor, and Kangaskhan amongst the rest of the Normals. Everything else feels like cannon fodder. Very few special attackers to work with as well.
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I have access to X/Y, white 2, SuMo, Sw/Sh and Z-A. What pokemon should I prioritize transferring over and is it possible to easily do so off 3ds?
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>>59384682
Correct. It does carry over some stuff it had outside of Champions (EVs, known moves, ability, etc) but there is literally nothing that cannot be overwritten inside of Champions except for the Pokemon's gender.
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>>59384680
I can help you with that, any specific abilities/moveset/nature/ball you want them in?
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>>59384685
>is it possible to easily do so off 3ds?
If you downloaded the Pokemon Bank software before the 3DS Eshop closed down, very easy.
If you didn't download it, you're fucked and will probably have to homebrew to get it on your 3DS.
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If you drag Swampert and Pelipper to every single match you need to just hurry up and join the 41% with the rest of your ilk
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me trick room me fast
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>>59384691
>any specific abilities/moveset/nature
It's so cheap to overwrite those, I don't think it's worth the time.
Unless you're genning them or something, in which case
Tsareena
Ability: Queenly Majesty
Impish Nature
- Acupressure
- Trop Kick
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

Overqwil
Ability: Intimidate
Impish Nature
- Acupressure
- Bite
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
>ball
Maybe luxury ball for Tsareena, net ball for Overqwil?
Otherwise just something interesting/not a default pokeball.
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>>59384354
>No Swampert
>No Pelipper
Hmmmmmmmmmmm I wonder what kind of team YOU run
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>>59384708
ok gimme a bit, shiny or nah?
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>>59384711
No thanks, neither of those shinies are particularly appealing.
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Does a new roster of Pokemon get added with every season? Like in ~10 days or whenever this season ends, we get more recruitment options?
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>>59384717
New regulations seem to be the time when new mons are added.

>>59384683
Have you tried Sheer Force Tauros now that Life Orb is in the game?
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>>59384726
>New regulations
How often does that happen?
Or does that mean the same thing as a new Ranked season?
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They need to triple the amount of cosmetics in the game
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>>59384716
>>59384680
sent the Tsareena, cant find the torchic for the overqwil
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>>59384550
i got molested a couple times by rock slide and i haven't recovered

i will take this into account, thank you mausbro
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is overqwil even usable outside of rain
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Is there a site where I can calculate how much damage a move would do vs another pokemon?

Also what site are you guys using to make/post your pokebuilds?
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>>59384766
calc.pokemonshowdown.com/
pokepaste.es
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>>59384766
https://calc.pokemonshowdown.com/champions.html?mode=champions
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>>59384766
Serebii with calculator and personal experience.
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Why do these niggas think that trying to run down the clock works instead of just forfeiting or finishing the match like a man? I'm not going anywhere, 90% of your attempts at idling will result in you getting fucked over and the other 10 will result in you losing the match anyway
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whimsicott is pretty good
I just fought against one in doubles and it was a tough bone
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So i was going to recruit and during the animation the pokemon silhouette in the middle was glowing with rainbow colors, however none of the pokemon in the selection appear to be shiny, i have gotten the rainbow once before and the selection did have a shiny pokemon (pangoro). Is this a bug?
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>>59384778
>Klefki
What the fuck
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>>59384786
it means either one or more shinies and/or one or more pokemon in a special ball
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>>59384786
That it isn't a shiny indicator. I'm pretty sure it means you got a "good roll" on one of your mons and it basically has the optimal/most used set immediately. In this case I'm assuming the Typhlosion.
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billions of dragons must die
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>>59384790
He didn't even bother putting an offensive move on it either
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>>59384592
Canary association shilling buff.
Then again that didn't save poor Scolipede.
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>>59384726
I haven't, no. I'll give it a shot, thank you. It'll probably replace the Maushold I've been using to Taunt pokes like Umbreon and Hippodown. Not a lot of people use them the higher I rise up the ranks.
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>>59384696
use something with Cloud Nine to teach them a lesson
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>>59384809
>32 Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Tauros Body Slam vs. 1 HP / 0 Def Garchomp: 109-129 (59.2 - 70.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
>32 Atk Tauros Body Slam vs. 1 HP / 0 Def Garchomp: 64-76 (34.7 - 41.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
>32 Atk Tauros Throat Chop vs. 2 HP / 0 Def Metagross-Mega: 56-66 (35.6 - 42%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
>32 Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Tauros Throat Chop vs. 2 HP / 0 Def Metagross-Mega: 91-109 (57.9 - 69.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
It's not going to work miracles and save base 100 attack completely, but it is a pretty substantial increase in power, and base 110 speed is a pretty solid speed tier to be at.
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>>59384698
me......
puh..........llaaaaayyy......
Poey...maaaawnnnnnnnn
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Dynamax when
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Bibarel when
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>>59384592
Elevate is its design gimmick, but it’s a better bit in Japanese (“eel climbing” refers to a runaway inflating stock price, like we’d say “bubble”, so it’s both off the ground and experiencing runaway growth)
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>>59384479
I nearly had a Cybertron moment one game after Will-o-Wisp missed 3 times in a row
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>>59384693
I actually did download it. Its functional?
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Annihilape just HAD to be in the same recruit group as Staraptor with my last teammate tickey, not complaining too much, maushold + annihilape seems like a fun strategy
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>>59384835
Well if it's a pun that makes it ok I suppose. I'm still seething inside though.
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Anyone playing on an emulator? What are you using?
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>>59384867
bro just play on the switch pretty sure everyone owns a switch by now
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what if, you emulated the switch, and played on that?
Or does switch emus not support online play?
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>>59384892
Are you mayhaps retarded
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>garchomp flinches both my mons with rock slide
>okay whatever I'm still in a better position
>it uses rock slide again
>draco meteor kills garchomp
>rock slide flinches annihilape
>my hydreigon dies
>alright whatever, it's now sketchy but I still win the final trade
>stuck on connecting
>get off my wifi to go on data
>in the time it took to load back in the game already decided my moves for me
>lose
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>>59384867
Bluestacks with android 13 beta
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>>59384897
Dawg ain't got a switch or phone mang. Let slime breathe kinfolk. Jive.
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>has lopunny and gengar as mega in my BSS team
>find the latter lacking
What's a good replacement? I am running sub-plot but it's too frail to set up
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>>59384892
i don't think it will let you use a nintendogoy account with an emulation and you need that to play
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>>59384916
Try a Snarl Will-o-Wisp Spiritomb. It might help your rabbit knock more heads around.
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>>59383436
>The joy of seeing an opponent use a niche combo that you have used and never seen anyone else use.
>The sadness to see they are doing it wrong.
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>>59384916
You always want a ghost in your team for lopunny uturns though, so if you dont have one, youll could consider gengar.
According to in game stats, gengar is more of a suicidal trapper lead as compared to a setup mon like skeledirge
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>>59384840
it is, make sure to update it to the latest version and buy the sub for pokemon home premium before pushing the transfer button in the main menu, you can pick which boxes to send over
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I'm about to go out and buy a switch 2 and the Pokemon games to get pokemon I want this RNG is annoying me
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>>59384943
are you not asking people here for the mons?
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Best points distro for annihilape?
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>>59384943
Lots of people are making/genning pokemon for people here, just ask what you want and put a screenshot of the pokemon you send to pokemon home
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>>59384769
>pokepaste.es

what the actual fuck is this it is the most virus looking website i've seen since 2000
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>>59384943
You need 1 friend with a switch who can trade a trade bot that gives you any pokemon and give it to you on home. Dont buy the games theyre fucking dogshit
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>>59384955
he is explaining it badly.
you make the team on showdown first, and then share it on pokepaste
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>>59384943
I'm trying to slug it out with mega drampa until i can get something like mega mawile, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, too many garchomps and staraptors, need to get a good lead matchup so orthworm can shed tail into it or my trick room hatterene, 160 base SpA is good and all but no boosting item makes it fall short a lot and it's too spoiled for coverage with Protect being essential in dubs giving it 3MSS instead of 4
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If a mon isn't good enough for doubles, it becomes a BSS mon, simple as, sorry gallade
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Wow this board is cancer. I saw the so I'm a pokemon thread on the way here
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>>59384977
Uh huh
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>>59384977
i try not not browse the board so much as the general. I treat vp more like vg, ill frequent a general and pretend everyone else outside dont exist.
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50 slots is not enough box space. Having to pay at least $50 to get any more is diabolical and I ain’t buying
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>master ball rank
>people still setting up tailwind with a hatterene on my side with my team being slow af on preview
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>>59384987
you honestly cant tell me you're using simisage
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>>59383436
86/102/88/98/100/108
Better?
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>>59384987
>$50
You mean 6.99 right
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>>59384996
Starter pack is not available for mobile players for whatever reason so there's only subscriptions for them
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>>59384987
you pay 7 bucks for the next 50.
But yes i do agree it is annoying, and very in your face. Thankfully i have home and all the mainline games i want, so as long as i dont mind the annoyance of Home transfer, i have infinite box spaces.
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>>59384991
Simisage ORKO Swampert with Seed Bomb. Respect the ape.
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If anyone wants any mons available in SWSH, I’m free for the next hour or so
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>>59384991
I am a scientist and a fun seeker
I give this guy a Sitrus Berry, have him take a hit and Stuff Cheeks, usually while a partner sets up Trick Room. You can Fling to heal a teammate which mega buddies usually appreciate. Recycle to keep getting the berry back. Trying Solar Blade now but I was dicking with Grassy Glide before. Moderate success.
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>>59384996
>>59384999
I saw that deal on my Switch before but sat on it. Didn't realize it was going to expire when mobile came out, so I guess I missed out.
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So do share anon, why do you care about comp pokemon now with Champions, and not in SwSh or SV?
Was IVs such a high barrier even with bottlecaps given out in raids? Do you just not have a switch?
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>>59385029
>SwSh or SV
why would I care about the tacked on online mode on a single player pokemon game?
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>>59384943
I know the feel but trust me give it time you will get every pokemon you need after a little while, and get pokemon go.
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>>59385029
I had a Switch and owned SV. I didn't play comp in SV because I disliked Tera, hated 3v3s, and was dissuaded from learning Doubles because of how legend/paradox infested it was.
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>>59385029
i didn't finish swsh and i didn't buy sv
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>>59385015
https://www.nintendo.com/en-ca/store/products/pokemon-champions-plus-starter-pack-switch/

You can literally still buy it
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>>59385029
I played a lot of SV comp, hated SwSh all around from the gimmick to the game itself.
Some people are contrarian, but I really enjoyed Reg A, F, a little G, and I. That big gap in the middle was me not playing, but I certainly hated reg H and its redux.
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>>59385043
deboonked.
I browsed reddit and several people did try, only for it not to work because of some fuckery.
As in if you have a switch account, its all good to buy it on the website, but not if you are mobile only
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>>59385029
I’ve played showdown for over 10 years. The grind to get competitively viable monsters for official VGC was never something I wanted to do. The recruit mechanic for this game is bullshit and obviously their only way of making money, but this is still the most easily accessible, official, competitive pokemon game ever. And I can play on my phone!
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>>59385029
Used to play some competitive in XY. The great thing about Champions is that you don't need to go catch or hatch a new pokemon just to tweak a thing or two. That alone saves up a lot of time
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>>59385029
I took most of SV off from competitive but I did play in both the first and last regional for Scarlet/Violet (San Diego 2023/LA 2026)
I played regularly just didn't participate in many real events.
Now 2014, that was a good year.
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>>59385037
>get pokemon go
Is this actually a decent way to target farm pokemon? The pokemon spawning were all random when I played but that was a decade ago now...
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>>59385054
If you already have a stash of evolved mons, yes. Otherwise it’s just good for getting GTS trade fodder
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>>59385054
no he means download pogo to get fodder, and trade said fodder with anons here for mons you actually want.
We have enough anons here that just gives away everything that its easy enough to get whatever you want
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>>59385045
i started mobile, went on switch, linked both accs (why wouldn't you?), and bought the starter pack yesterday

retard
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>>59385043
>>59385045
>>59385059
Worked on my machine. Crazy that it's $9.99 in Canada. Still $6.99 for me.
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>>59385059
>>59385064
wait really?
i need to get on that stat
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Honestly 100 is ultimately not enough. You will need to start doing some culling after a while
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>>59384943
Strong pokemon weak pokemon...
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Anyone want any Eternal Flower Floettes? I genned too many
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>>59385071
yes, i will post something here in 1 sec with the name mm
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lookin for a garchomp if anyone can get one
i have no games since bw2
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>>59385071
how do you gen it, manually?
I just use a trade bot people set up in ZA, which takes like 2 mins each time if i get lucky, and maybe 5 mins if the line is long
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>>59385071
Username mm
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>>59385080
i got a modded switch from a long time ago
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>concentrated meta where only a few mons are playable
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>>59385081
sent
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>>59385086
and the funny thing is that Staraptor isn't even good
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>>59385086
>concentrated autism where only a few brain patterns are thinkable

you gotta get creative or what's the point?
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Nightmare time
gholdengo gsts u-turn
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>>59385078
Funny that a full pvp competitive game on mobile is what's bringing non-nintendos back to pokemon
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>>59384390
Thats why u run psyshock b
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>>59385099
You forgot to mention the most important part. It's free.
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>>59385089
Staraper has caused my last two matches to end in forfeits after they see roost or protect
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Is it worth trying to grind elo now for Champion tier before Master 3 to Champion rank is unlocked? Or does it not matter? Not sure if my matchmaking is gonna be better odds in my favor if I grind elo now versus when the other ranks unlock in a day or two.
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>prankster swaggers your first turn mega staraptor
confused? nothing personal...
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>>59385099
it kinda is funny.
usually people abhor competitive, and series casualization is what makes it more accesible much to the dismay of the core audience.
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>>59385099
battling is fun and it's free
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haha i like fight animals
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>>59385087
thanks! its a legit shiny if that matters to you
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>>59385127
Fight of Animals? Now that's a game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4STFTDzHfQ
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>sneed clicks fake out on archaludon
>whims clicks encore on sableye
ultra ball tier is fun
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>>59385029
Because the single player of sv sucked fucking cock and was retarded as fuck and they all were shit since xy actually which was one of the shittiest games ever made. It's honestly better if they don't even make a dogshit single player game at all because it makes me hate the fucking game and drop it before even trying online battles. Also they need to make way less of the pokemon look and be gay as fuck with cheap moves and look fucking gay.
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>>59385100
Is there a list of mons out there somewhere showing which Psychic vs Psyshock hits harder? I'm using the former on my Slowking but might switch to Psyshock to better deal with the asshole bird since the rest of my team hits it pretty hard on the Special side and Whims often Fake Tearses it.
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>>59385137
>sneed clicks fake out on archaludon

why is this bad
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>>59385047
You played showdown for 10 years and never realized you could play it on your phone? You can play showdown on your phone too so the last part throws me off.
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>>59385141
NTA, but clicking protect/fake out while the opposing team has a potential Encore user spells disasters
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>>59385029
Pokemon games on the Switch aren't worth buying except maybe Legends Arceus and I'm a pokepleb who barely plays other vidya.
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>>59385141
Archaludon will heal back the Fake Out damage through leftovers while geting a Stamina boost
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>>59385141
>+1 def from stamina
>leftovers heals back all the damage it does
>the other 2 mons the guy had in the back where all physical attackers
man idk what the plan was
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>>59385029
The competitive ladder in both Sword/Shield and Scarlet/Violet was fun. However, Champions makes it so much easier to play, and I don't have to sit through a children's jrpg and then a series of lotteries to get to the part that I care about.
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>>59385029
I watched video like this and just went "nah"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs-sOPExp_k
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>>59385029
Spamming A button to finish the stupid story that I don't care for
Getting Pokemon with the correct IVs and egg moves
EV Training
Leveling them up to 50

I'm surprised anyone actually went through that slog
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>>59384959
>>59384955
It's because the URL is wrong. Try https://pokepast.es/
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>>59385029
Playing pokemon games for the story is actually retarded in 2026. The evil team for SV wasnt even evil they actually stood up to a bunch of bullies and then got expelled for it for reasons never actually explained in game
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This is my opener every Starapter or Charizard I see. I pop imprison on mons thay will have protect or heat wave and then I burning jealousy in Starapters to take half their hp bar
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A clefable would be nice to pair with my skelidirge, absolute bs how it doesn't learn Trick Room though, it looks like it should learn Trick Room, that thing can fricken make fire and ice come out of its mouth on a whim but it can't control the pace of a room
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>>59385160
other than your first point, the three points are nonissues anymore.
>egg moves
you can get it for free using the mirror herb these days
>correct IVs
>EV Training
>Leveling them up to 50
frankly these are easier in the SV dlc, which is probably how TPC has been milking the comp fans. The item printer is just infinite free items.

Im interested in seeing how wind/waves milk the dlcs and what worth does it bring
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>>59385159
Kill yourself
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>>59385116
are you good enough to be one of the top 300 players in the game?
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>>59385180
I imagine minus bots and humans only in master ball there are 300 or so
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>>59385029
I'll never buy a console and IVs/EVs are fucking dumb. It's an mmorpg disguised.
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>>59385159
>clefable
>not gay
have a persim berry lad
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>>59385116
Yes it is very important to grind ELO now its going to get harder once people know what the tiers are and have had more time to grind themselves.
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HOW DO I MAKE A TEAM
I JUST WANT TO USE CLEFABLE (and only pre-gen V mons)
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>>59385204
Pick 6 of your favorite looking pokemon and call it a day
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>>59385180
I'd like to think so, can actually pilot good teams without just using it because its "meta", and have been able to win games. Was Master Ball 3 last tier but started late. Prob could use non-meta teams but that'll just make the climb take a lot longer
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Is mega meta worse than legendary meta?
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>>59385204
mega delphox with follow me clefable. Setup with nasty plot and sweep. Clefable can moonblast dark types delphox hates and delphox deletes steel and poison fairy counters. Can lean more heaverly into protect the queen with sinistcha incin or go a more well rounded route with Garchomp EQ and other flying mobs like gyrados.
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>>59385204
If you're new to comp then making a team on your own is the last of your concerns
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>>59385221
I was looking stuff up, and what about something with Clefable, Mega Frosslass and Weavile?
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>>59384778
Pissing you off this much is the goal. I do it to punish people who run boring meta teams.
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>>59385233
I mean Clefable is one of only 2 follow me mons in the game (the other being maushold) so it's good in any team that follow me is good in, im just suggesting a situation where you would want clefable over the superior maushold (Clefable is fairy type, and delphox synergizes with fairy)
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>>59385247
wasn't Follow Me like a super common move before? What happened?
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>>59385249
its not that common, its a broken move so only a few mons have it even if you include all of them (champions has a small roster). This is why pachirisu won a world championship.

(actually looking it up there are only 8 pokemon in gen 9 that have it, not including evo lines and variations. They are Clefable, Maushold, Electevire, Magmar, Ogerpon, Pachirisu, Furret, Indeedee F.
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Who /MasterBallInBothFormats/ here?
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>>59385266
SV took it away from a lot of mons and made others inaccessibly anyway.
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>>59385275
me
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Best way to deal with Mimikyu in BSS? I might consider switching out U-Turn on Corviknight for Body Slam
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>>59385304
Double hit moves, a strong physical wall, something like Scizor that revenge kills it easily.
>Body Slam
You mean Iron Head, right?
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>>59385374
Yeah Iron Head. I rarely use U-turn so I might try that out instead
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Thanks if you are up for it
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>>59385378
U-Turn is better for full 6v6 formats where switching a lot a more common. Iron Head or BB is better almost every time imo.
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>Opponent have Sneasler
>I have Farigiraf
>I use Twin Beam against sneasler after it failed its Fake Out (srsly, how dumb are people at master ball tier?)
>First Beam reduce sneaslers HP all the way to 1%
>Second beam kills it
I'm sorry, but why go Psychic over Twin Beam? Does the extra 10 points of power matter when you face Gengar or something?
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New bread.
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