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Bugbros... MalaChads are LAUGHING at us Edition

Pokémon Champions is a free to play online battle simulator available on Switch and mobile. It features ranked, casual and private battles for both singles and doubles, and will be used for VGC tournaments in 2026.

>News
Pokemon Champions is out on mobile devices.
Monthly Challenge for June starts on 26th, ends on 29th. Single Battles. Participants gets a Tyranitar.
Enter HAJ1MAR1G1FT for a free 100 Quick Coupons and CHAMP10N for a free Machamp.

>Resources and useful links
Community Tournaments usage data: https://pikalytics.com/
Ladder usage data: https://pokechamdb.com/en
New Player Guide(NEW PEOPLE READ THIS):
https://rentry.org/pcg-guide (now taking suggestions and feedback)

Quick FAQ
>Do I need my own Pokémon to play?
No, the game features a recruitment system, but transferring from Home is recommended to save time and resources.
>What makes the game so much more accessible than before?
All aspects of a Pokémon are customizable with VP, a currency earned simply by playing the game. IVs are also removed.
Ask in the thread if you want any specific Pokémon, and someone will respond.
>Is there single player content?
No.
>Do I need a Nintendo Online subscription?
No.
>What's the starter pack?
US$6.99 one time purchase for 50 training tickets (fully train for free), 30 Teammate Tickets (recruit Pokemon without using VP), 50 extra box space and the LGPE trainer music. Only available on Switch for now.
>Is anything locked behind a paywall?
So far everything gameplay relevant is also purchasable with VP. Only E-Floette require ZA transfer.

>/pcg/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread):
https://pastebin.com/d2FJZdPh


Previous: >>59399389
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how do I scam kids on the GTS with a regular floette
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Please help lonely (lax) weedle find a better home
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>>59402280
What site is that
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>>59402296
nvm its pikalytics
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>>59402287
>beaten to a Tornadus by a millisecond
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Is hatterene usable in doubles or is she fucked by all the fake outs and floette counters? Should I just wait for indeedee to get in before I try?
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>>59402335
I tried her for a while and she isnt that good in doubles. You can make a case for magic bounce vs stealth rock as a lead in singles though.
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>>59402335
She's okay, just not the best meta for her.
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>>59402335
She's a usable TR setter but I'd say she doesn't make the top 5 TR setters that are available in champions
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need a sceptile if anyone could spare please
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Rain teams? moar like free 300 VP + Elo for me teams
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This team feels a bit better to use now. Do I keep Sableye or go Grimmsnarl or Incineroar?
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Want to try prankster psyterrain shenanigans thanks in advance
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>>59402354
>top 5 TR
Who else besides Farig and Sinistcha?
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>>59402384
return to monke
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>>59402384
Personal top ranked in annoyance
>Farigiraf
>Oranguru
>Mimikyu
>Sinistcha
>Slowking
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>>59402392
Mimikyu taking a hit for free is so annoying
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>>59402380
>>59402380
>throat chop sableye instead of foul play
>no rock slide on chomp, nor protect when your whole team is fairy weak
>speaking of fairy weak, no iron head on gambit
>grass knot on farig when you already have freeze dry on ninetales
>no discharge on rotom
Explain your choices.
I notice your whole team is slow, so its just hoping you get enemies down from electroweb spam?
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shit game kek
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wow charizard y and garchomp, real original. incineroar too, how novel. and a whimsicott too? damn we got the next wolfey here
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>>59402384
Farig and Sinistcha
Oranguru
Cofarigus
And my last pick is more of a comfort pick for me but I've got a soft spot for Reuniclus even if powercreep hasn't really been kind to it.
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>>59402335
everything is useable, stop waiting for cybertron to make a video before you can use your shitmon. Just get better at the game.
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>>59402394
It's annoying in doubles and broken in singles, it's balanced in 6v6 by the fact that with 6 mons you can slot consistent checks and loaded dice but in 3v3 your team usually consists in a mega, a scarf user and either a breaker or a tank so if you have no inmediate check he always gets a free burn or SD
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held item for venusaur if im going zard y no matter what?
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>>59402398
Throat chop for anyone who runs hyper voice like farig or sylveon.
Rock slide always misses for me. So i went thunder fang because i hate rain teams and milotic.
I need brick break more in case the team has grimmsnarl. Gar has poison jab if anything lel and i dont really run him first bec he needs some set up.
I dont always run ninetales because it becomes a liability in a lot of matchups i have.
Discharge hits allies and at times protect timings get fucked. I need a reliable attack vs fking milotics, aeros and birds. Its not like discharge would hit a swampert anyway in case its a rain team.
And yeah they're slow and im trying to time when to set trick room and hoping for whatever on the fly tactic i come up with works. So im thinking either grimmsnarl or incin would be better than sableye, but encore + will o wisp are good too and pressure switches. So it's whatever honestly.
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>>59402423
Wide Lens if you want to hit more Sleep Powders (you'll still miss)
Focus Sash if you want to survive to a second turn
Life Orb if you want to do more damage (not sure if it picks up any important KOs)
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>was about to taunt whim with umbreon
>scizor comes in on expected freeze dry on azumaril from ninetales a
>ninetales does freezemaxxing with blizzard instead
>umbreon gets frozen
>connection issues leave me with one sec to use bullet punch on ninetales into a garchomp coming in
>umbreon eventually thaws out and gets valuable chip on Garchomp
>win despite game trying to rig against me
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>>59402358
I can try to find one in sword DAs but no guarantees on how quickly I can find one
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>>59402465
thanks, no worries on the speed bro. ive just spent like 30k vp rolling for it and havnt pulled it once yet
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Fuck you nigger
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Battle passes would be better if they had permanent box slots tucked in. I dont want to dress like a Canary tranny fuck that shit man
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>tfw OHKO'ing Archaludon with M-Staraptor
Feels good man
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Last respects is such a retarded move
>Here's a no downside 150/200 BP 100% accuracy move with 2x adaptability boost if you dare try to win the game
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Sorry for boxing you lopunny (male), thanks for coming back to regain lost elo from using trash like mega starmie and mega staraptor without whimsicott
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>>59402531
How do you counter this (without getting angry)?
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>>59402547
Samurott hisui exists, mega gyarados exists, Kingambit exists, the move Foul Play exists
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>>59402394
at least it eats some damage now when disguise breaks or it'd be taking free hits two times instead with sash
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Want to test how good hazards are in dubs, eff focus sash
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>>59402498
I honestly wish you could just buy the damn slots at this point. I’d like to have 3 teams for doubles and two for singles on the off occasion I want to dabble in it (or when there are online comps), but I’m not forking over nearly $80 dollarydoos for a membership.
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>>59402551
Been using H Samurott to great effect recently against the people retarded enough to use the fish among other mons.
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Will an Iron Treads trade for Eternal Faggot Floette?
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I feel regular typh is a bit underexplored, flash fire is a much better ability than frisk and charizard and in incin everywhere
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Wanted to test Eternal Floette as my Mega with my lineup above. Got some vp to spare now.
IGN George
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In 100 years, will competitive pokemon be as prestigious as chess?
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>>59402547
Normal type, bonus if they redirect
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it's crazy that draco meteor has a 0.00046% accuracy rate when I use it and a 103% accuracy rate when the opponent uses it. for real though losing a game on the final turn cus I missed a move reminds me why I won't be playing this game anymore.
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>>59402630
That's why i stopped running rock slide. It just kept missing. Im tryna figure out a better playstyle not reliant on rng
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Made MB Singles for the first time this season. My buddy came up with this Sableye set and it’s completely fucked, got me an 11-streak with Ychu and Hank backing me up, sailed straight outta Great Ball and never had to deal with the Hyper Ball struggle. Though M-Pinsir threw a couple of sweeps in there too.

Now back to the Doubles grind.
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>>59402433
Life Orb +32 SpAtk Venusaur doesn't really pick up crucial KOs on anything. Earth Power isn't picking up Sneasler, Lead Storm isn't picking up Garchomp, Sludge Bomb isn't KOing Mega Floette.
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>>59402661
I ran counter and mirror coat Swampert as a joke and it was fun in singles
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Thoughts on mega venusaur? no one uses psychic attacks and it can stay around to sleep powder things, I fear no meta mon but I do fear the mega venasuar
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>>59402630
I once thought Play Rough was 100% accurate, oh how wrong i was...
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>>59402382
Please send, I got trolled 2 times in a row by a useless female meowstic in the gacha
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I kinda want to replace whimsi with Grimmsnarl in my staraptor team but I fear I would miss tailwind if I do.
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>>59402613
don't play champion, but I've been seeing j. typh do some funny stuff so you could be right. I feel that playing around fake out could be an issue, but then again it shouldn't be too hard to fit in a quick guard mon or some other counterplay.
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>>59402613
>>59402729
Typhlosion gimmick is a fast eruption. Alas with so many Charizards, and thus counters to fire spread moves, around, it doesn't have a place.
Maybe when/if we get a decent electric mon Charizard will go down and Typhlsion will come back.
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>>59402729
I never noticed it but typholosion's back flame effect is really bad...
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>>59402741
Mega Ychu is more than decent in the right hands, annihilates rain teams 8/10 times with the right teammates
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>>59402470
Couldn't find one for the fucking life of me but I found an easy trade for it, sent.
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>>59402613
The biggest issue with normal Typhlosion is being a bit more prone to getting hit with Fake Out whilst H Typhlosion being part Ghost basically eliminates that issue. Still doesn’t protect it from other priority moves though. Also still baffling they gave H Typhlosion fucking Frisk of all things.
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>>59402767
Thanks bud! really appreciate!
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>>59402616
I just realized there were too many of us for you to find me... so im offering my volbeat instead. Thanks to any kind soul who can help
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>>59402771
Frisk is actually decent in Champions, knowing what item your openent has is a huge advantage especially with the existence. choice scarfs. The problem is the open team sheet bullshit in vgc literally makes frisk not an ability
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Anyone got a KANG for trade?
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>>59402674
I've been using it since the previous season. It's really good and right now there are a lot of shitters that try to kill it with ice or fire attacks, non-STAB even. The only things it fears are the emo bird and fire chicken.
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>>59402795
That’s what I meant to refer to originally before getting distracted by work. At least the Typhlosions have a niche unlike both versions of Decidueye and Emboar.
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So, why did Goldengo underperform?
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>Play a few casual battles just for fun
>KO opponent's lead
>Communicating...
>Communicating...
>Communicating...
>Communicating...
>Communicating...
>The opposing trainer has been idle for too long!
>The battle is over!

3 out of 5 matches were like this. And I think all of them were japs. Fucking why?
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>>59402382
>>59402705
sent, just found one
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>>59402823
I don't know why everyone says JPs are honorable and good losers when every time someone stalls because they're losing it's them, they're the most passive aggressive people ever
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>>59402817
PaldeaCHUDs were carried by Tera
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>every trade on Home is asking for Sinistcha, Floette, Archaludon, or Gholdengo
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>>59402831
They like to think they’re ‘honorable’ but only ever act that way when dealing with their own kind. But in reality they’re still anally devastated they were forced to submit to ‘lesser’ peoples over 80 years ago and that they still have to rely on the outside world for their society to continue to exist.
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>>59402817
No ursaluna and amoongus
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>>59402817
Super special one-of-a-kind move forced to behave the same way as the others of its kind (I.e. -2 stat drop) instead of being -1 like it was in SV. Also Mega Zard Y being a direct counter to it doesn’t help its case at all.
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>>59402817
Deserved
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>>59402817
The jew ghost fears THE KING
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>>59402816
H Decidueye isn't as bad as everyone thinks, but it's not great and I would never use it. Triple Arrows is just that good.
The others, yeah.
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Anyone with a rain team i can test against in a private battle? Im gonna get clobbered but just wanna try it out
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>>59402817
I tried it but I never get a chance to use it. Too many fire types, dark types and Garchomp. No one really uses offensive status moves either.
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>>59402671
Hell yeah it was, I just brought him as backup for M-Pinsir and he was a hilarious all-or-nothing button to save for last
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Anyone else getting mimed on all of a sudden?
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>>59402881
I just matched with a rain team in casuals and i realize i am walled by an arch and sinistcha duo. I should have known... yeah im replacing ninetales with torkoal soon. And sableye with grimmsnarl
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>10 winstreaks stopped by a choice sleep powder butterfly and shell smash Blastoise
Holy fuck in the 4 turns my team got raped I only got to use one move. Fucking shit get raped by a nigger.
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>>59402896
I accidentally posted in the other thread an idea about skillswapping onto an OHKO mon in the last thread. Then someone linked a vid of rime doing just that. Wouldn't be surprised if it's copy cats in this very thread.
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>>59402919
Its a case for running misty terrain for sure.
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>>59402926
It's not unique. The nips have been doing it
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>>59402823
They NT just got knocked out the world cup, could feel the rage in my most recent match against one, played like I did when I tilted from 1800 to 1590 few days ago while yelling the n word loud enough for my neighbors to hear
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Fraudganium
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>>59402919
Lum Berry is your friend
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>>59402932
Who are you yelling nigger to? The jap can't hear you over the phone anon
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>>59402932
Hasn’t Asia as a whole completely flopped? I know Korea got obliterated only because we have some at work who were assmad about it.
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Staraptor should've gotten a thing like Eelektross. Contraptor, stat changes are opposite and it heals 50% each turn.
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>>59402958
It should have got an ability called raptorvate: contrary + crit chance on all attacks + all attacks work like pursuit
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>>59402816
>Emboar: made in Gen 5, just after Gen 4 when powercreep started, and later got a a fucking mega the genre
>Decidueye: in from the starter set that gave us fucking incin and even Prima is no slouch. Got a regional with the best ability and signature move it could have
>both somehow have less of a niche than an monotype from Gen 2 who’s literally the only pre powercreep starter not allowed golden parachute power-up, and has been spamming one moce for over a decade;.as well as that monotype’s dead grand cousin who doesn’t even have a hidden ability in the official format
You know, fumbling that badly is almost impressive
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>>59402958
It needs Power Trip
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>when they switch a full HP guy into Pop Bomb and it hits all 10 times
Maushold is so fucking nasty man
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>>59402990
>pop bomb hits 7-8 times, just enough for the sandstorm to finish them
Poppery
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>>59402295
sent
>>59402358
got it, sent
>>59402567
enjoy :)
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>heat wave misses both every single time
OK. Anything below 100% accuracy sucks now. What kind of lousy probabilities are these?
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>>59402951
There's still the "Asian" team of Australia. Asia really deserves way less spots but FIFA loves that oil money just too much.
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>Communicating... in a casual battle when he's down to his last Pokemon
I don't get it. Why be salty over a casual?
>It's a nip
Oh...
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>>59402990
Silk scarf/Life Orb under gravity maushold sounds fun if the opponent doesn't have garchomp
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>final gambit staraptor wasnt enough to kill giraf
>mgallade didnt even try to kill giraf
>TR set up
>torkoal proceeds to sweep
Thanks to the anon that sent me the koal. He is kool :3
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>>59403059
I should have brought matcha just in case though for another trick room had giraf actually died.
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>>59403059
great ball 3 games are crazy!
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>>59403069
but GB games are unironically more fun because you see more variety than MB where everyone and their mother just goes full meta
also this is UB4 lel
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Why is metronome not in the game?
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>>59403075
>le metronome rollout has arrived
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>>59403075
i want loaded dice
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>>59402933
>t. buck broken flygonfag
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>>59403080
I want black sludge so my gliderboy gets some love...
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>>59403059
>archlufraud gets buck broken
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>>59403085
>
that nigger keeps posting impossible trades
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>>59403082
>T. Still a shitmon even with le hecking super saiyan shill form
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>>59403085
Shiny Papago, Calyrex, and the rest WITH MY OT when
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Raichu y with a modest nature and 27 attack evs hits so hard it can 1 shot swampert with grass knot through screens and ohko arch with focus blast
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>>59403085
LMAOOOOOO
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>>59403102
ok, but why would either of those mons stay in/not protect while their partner uses Tackle on raichu to 1hko it?
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>>59402958
It should have gotten an ability where it can't take damage or be knocked out and all of its moves 100% instantly kill the opponent's pokemon and heals your entire team to full health and always goes first no matter what
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>>59403109
That's being saved for Mega Bibarel.
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>>59403109
Loses to encore zoroark tho
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>v. Staraptor shit
>he predicts the Fake Out + Poison Jab into his Whimsichud
>forced to buy time once he throws out Baschudlegion
>KO everything but Baschudlegion and Grimmsnarl
>he KOs my Mega Garde but Incin KOs his Baschudlegion
>game comes down to Incin and Grimmsnarl
>Parting Shot it four times
>Flare Blitz spam
>he forfeits
Eat shit, asshole
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>>59403126
the Pokeball tier situation is crazy!
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>>59403130
Pokeball tier is actually fun.
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>>59403097
The more you gloat about Mega Meganium being a """fraud""" the likelihood of Mega Flygon being a humiliation ritual approaches 100.
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>>59403135
I mean, it's nowhere as bad as H-Typhlosion being a pedo.
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Araquanid's stats look pretty good. I actually pulled one but it was between it and Mawile, and I wanted to test Megawile at some point.
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>opponent starts with gslowking staraptor
>megas and trick room
>chilly into ditto and copies my mega
>uses close combat z on my incin, killing it and getting spdef boost
>his smeargle skill swaps moody and decorates next turn
>he tera blasts me until almost everyones dead
>have to flip turn stall while he gets raptorious spirit heal boosts every turn +baton passed ingrain hp until timer draw
How is staraptor balanced again??
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>>59403144
>playing imaginary formats
Mega Star isn't that broken on it's own desu. Being paired with shit like Whimsicott, Sableye/Grimmsnarl, and other Supportmon is what makes it tedious to deal with since even if you hit it with Intimidate prior to Mega Evolving or Will-o-miss, it becomes tanky and revenge killing it takes longer than it really should.
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>>59403137
this aint reddit
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>>59403145
Natdex Pokebilities AAA + ZA AG triple battles is a real format
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>>59403137
holy reddit
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>>59403152
>smogooner
ok
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>>59403025
>Australia categorised as Asian despite being its own fucking continent
I know very little about the sport but pic definitely belongs to whoever made that decision.
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>>59403135
Fraudganium lol
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the faggot fuck who beat me is a gay faggot fucking nigger nigger nigger
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Another rain team destroyed. He was left with Arch and forfeited. I still had all 4 didnt even need to run torkoal :3
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>>59402958
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Using Curse/Last Resort Snorlax as me TR counter. I don't bother trying to stop TR set up anymore, I just try to make you regret it.
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I hope they never bring CSR to this game. And if they do, at least they ought to nerf it to high heaven.
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>>59403191
wuts that
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>>59403191
CSR?
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>>59403161
>>59403025
you're both retards, australia is in the asia football region so it can actually play international games with opponents on it's level.
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Got me a spare shiny Reshiram from GTS. Anyone got a shiny Tyrantrum/Tyrunt or Aerodactyl to trade for it? It's Adamant though with full speed + attack EVs
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>>59403214
>>59403216
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>>59403231
>hey guys, i got this totally legit mon for trade
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>>59403243
I mean I know it's probably hacked but I don't mind getting a hacked mon in return either
In the end if it can get into HOME it's fair game
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>>59403255
ok wolfe
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>>59403269
Who!?
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He had a really wonky team
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>>59403324
What is the point of mimikyu and Aerodactyl?
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>>59403324
>cancer vs cancer
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GET THE FUCK IN HERE

www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLJLMNQiiKc
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>>59403326
Prolly doesnt have Pelipper yet. Mimikyu supposed to be a revenge killer and his last resort when it's a TR i guess? He should have ran TR though and that would have turned the tide a bit but he probably doesnt know TR on TR cancels it.
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Goodra is so sexy when it uses Rock Slide
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>>59403335
Till it misses both targets
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>>59403331
why wont these nigs invite me goddamit
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>>59403331
based, something to watch!
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>>59403331
Those casters are awful
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>>59403353
its a simple tournament made by locals/amateur fans.
don’t take it soo seriously :)
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>>59403353
yeah they clearly dont know a lot of things.
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>>59403241
>>59403191
Da orb or da sash fo today? they made astral way worse
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>>59403354
You can host a local tournament and still have decent casters. They could keep it conversational but still fun to listen to. The other guy was like "what does symbiosis do again?"in his malay accent and i dipped out real quick
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>their heatwave completely connect
>my heatwave missed BOTH
bullshit
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When is my boy Dondozo coming here
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Primarina is overrated in BSS
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>>59403363
My grass knot is ready for him
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soon...we reach kinoland...
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>>59402817
>Why did Pokemon that was heavily nerfed underperform?
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>>59403371
what broke shit will the little one get
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>>59403075
They needed to make room for Bright Powder and King’s Rock, 2 items no one likes and goes against competitiveness in a game centered around competitive.
Oh and also Oran Berry.
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>>59403371
I just realized Dondozo is supposed to be a sushi chef

I feel so fucking stupid
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Is it petty/childish to wish I could change the 30th anniversary mon icon to literally anything else?
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>>59403331
Oh wait this is open team sheet.
Yoink, thats my mono bug team now
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>>59403383
no
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>>59403373
>heavily nerfed
They nerfed make it rain and nothing else
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My team only pretends to be weak to sneasler to bait my opponent into getting raped
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>>59403390
>we just nerfed the very thing that made this shillmon reliable, enjoy! :D
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>>59403390
Make it Rain is part of why Gholdengo is good in the first place, arguably the biggest part in Doubles where its a Spread move and where GaG is just a worse version of Magic Bounce.
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>>59403137
>it’s no where need as bad as [literally a Fanfic]
Only redditors, retards, and actual pedophiles bring that up. Everyone else moved on
And i guarantee you H.yphlosion has a higher win rate that most of this humiliating crop of nu-megas. Shit, there’s a very real chance Johtonian Typh has a higher win rate than most of these shit megas despite not being buffed in over a decade
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>>59403396
>>59403399
The accuracy nerf barely matters and while the -2 instead of -1 does hurt it's still a very good move.
Honestly no tera is what hurts Gholdengo the most and the fact that the meta is really bad for him with how Zard Y, Kingambit, Garchomp, or even scarf Basc can kill it reliably.
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>>59403411
ok
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>>59403411
wonder if we'll ever see a gking team with him to clear the drop
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>>59403411
this guy gets it.
MiR is still a really nice nuke, but you cannot bring him out reliably right now. Between the infinite rain+swampert plus charizard, its hard to slot him in.
Give him a different meta and he'll see tiered play, trust.
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>>59403411
The -2 to SpA actually matters a lot since Gholdengo now only has 1 MiR before Nasty Plot boost disappears.
It’s still good but not as good as before.
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Thank you in advance
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>>59403431
sent
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>>59403428
Basically Golden boy had Meganium syndrome. An objectively good pokemon (no matter what that shitposters say) that just so happens to be royally fucked in the ass by the things happen too be the top of the meta
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>guy attacks into armor tail THREE Times during a game
>still lose bc XD lifeorb chomp

Protect should have a longer cooldown in trick room. Stalling half of it is fucking insane, and feint is fucking horrible in every way. Is there anyone that handles chomp on a normal tr team - outside of tr?
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>heracross doesn't get fake out
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>massive attack
>prankster
>frail af
wtf is the point of this thing?
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>>59403464
Prankster Destiny Bond
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>>59403135
>the more you make fun of meganium, the more likely flygon gets humiliated
Wait a sec, >>59403162 this guy has the right idea...
Fraudganium Fraudganium
Fraudganium Fraudganium
Fraudganium Fraudganium
Fraudganium Fraudganium
Fraudganium Fraudganium
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>>59402335
double tr lead with farigiraf gives you immunity to fake out and taunt i find it pretty effective. i give them berries to cover weakness and max special attack evs/nature for offensive pressure after tr. sometimes you can sweep with that alone
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>>59403173
>>59403177
Environmental storytelling
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>>59403449
Guess it got lost with other GTS trades. It is what it is, the universe doesn't want me to go monke. Thanks anyways kind anon
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>>59403358
10BP loss isn't making it "way worse"
It needed the Precipice Blades treatment. Fuck those horses.
Hopefully the next double restricted format has no tera so the dual horses are well and truly fucked.
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>>59403528
I hope we never get legendaries in
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>>59403537
oh boy, wait 3/4 months.
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>>59403590
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>>59402744
it used to not exist at all and just look like a hunchback retard
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>Misread the opponent's opening pokemon, he gets MStaraptor out
>Kills 2 pokemon with close combat, at +2 defense
>my MTyranirar oneshots with with a Crit stone edge
How the fuck
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>>59403683
I still can't believe they did this to my nigger. I hated typhlosion for the longest time because those retards thought this looked good.
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>>59403686
T-Tar is strong. The weird thing is that it didn't fucking focus your T-Tar.
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I'm going to make a mega elektross team, is rain best? tailwind? It's hard to tell.
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>>59403746
Either Tailwind or TR. It doesn't offer anything to Rain.
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>>59403537
That's because you never played the restricted formats and are stuck in a campaign/tranime mindset that these mons are special somehow and shouldn't battle.
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>>59403797
You can't look me straight in the face and say you *WANT* legendaries to come back, even more so considering we're in the Mega Evolution format and stuff like the hoenn trio (which can and will megaevolve), that stupid deer or the retarded horses are bound to come back and make the meta even more stale than it is now because now you won't even be able to make your favorite shitmon work on an incredibly gimmicky team and instead forced into a "protect the king" game like every restricted format god I hate Calyrex
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Hatterene wasn't sexy until I saw it's a little fairy with big hair
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>>59403789
100% accurate thunder + pelliper/basc can run soak
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Holy shit talonflame with dual wingbeat and taunt is so good right now.
I did not think the frailest of birds would put in so much work.
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Am I crazy if I want to use Galarian Slowking with Curious Medicine instead of Regenerator? It can reset the SpAtt drops of Mega Dragonite and Pyroar
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>milotic uses coil
>encore it
>he swaps it out 2 turns later
>it comes back after I kill another mon
>coils again immediately even though my encore is still on the field
Huh
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>psych up life dew Milotic with M-Staraptor
Seriously what the fuck is wrong with you?
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>>59402335
Just use her, coward. I'm using base gardevoir as my trick room setter and i'm doing just fine. In great ball tier
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>>59403832
this is not sexy
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>>59403860
Idea thief >>59403420
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>>59403957
uuoohhh...
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>>59403454
It's 4 times weak to ice and ice shard is a priority move.
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Ok this was a tough one. Basically he's running Perish song MGar and Incin as leads, Rain at the back. Perish song gengar was a serious threat. My mistake was trying to set up a light screen with Grimmsnarl and trying to set trick room on turn 1. I should have just went on the hyper offensive and attacked Gengar immediately, and I should have known better he'd run protect on both of them. I also overestimated how much Garchomp could take rain boosted stab weather ball at the end. This was all on me and I could have won if I wasn't playing defensively at the beginning.
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>>59403715
Resists or is neutral to its stab. Probably thought he was safe
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>>59402335
Hat is bad because incin is still popular and parting shot sends her flying
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>>59403993
Yeah, you go hyper offensive with TR. chomp + giraffe probably kills gengar. Protect giraffe turn 1 since his team is slow anyways, with the exception of gengar, and EQ until the sun comes up
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>>59403993
Am I witnessing a 0 speed mega chomp?
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>>59403992
>all ice shard users are moderately fast and bad for TR except abomashit
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>>59403454
literally any ice move, just put it on something unexpected.
Ice beam will need 144 SpA to OHK non stab and Ice punch will need 169 Att to OHK non stab for example
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>>59404010
I mean Obama is pretty good on TR tricks. Otherwise you Mamoswine is completely usable on it as well.
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>rain is up
>opponent has archaludon and grimmsnarl on field
>encore archaludon into electro shot
>switch in torkoal to lock the archaludon
>grimmsnarl priority parting shot into toilet bird and my encore backfires
How the fuck do you even deal with priority parting shot into weather change holy shit. Fucking outplayed maximum madness.
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>>59404010
You asked for outside of TR, not "the mon must also be good in TR"
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>>59404001
My proof
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I got a shiny decidueye, and now I got a Skeledirge with the sociable title. Why can't I get this neat on some pokemon I like instead?
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>>59404041
What's your favorite Pokemon cutie
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>>59404034
And the set that'll fuck you up will be the perish trap with scarf hydreigon because it'll kill your garchomp, but it's rare.
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>>59404041
Decidueye is super cool tho he should be your favorite
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>>59404048
Cubone
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>>59404060
Little calcium creature
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>>59404041
Skeledirge is sometimes ok in BSS
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>no apparent limit on teams you can share
If I share a team, does it stay shared even if I delete the team locally?
Can I get around the 3-team limit without the scampass if I just share my teams, save the codes, and then whenever I want to use those teams again, enter my own codes to recreate the teams from replicas?
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>>59404041
alright gimme your favorite (and available in champions) mon available in gen 3 and I'll get you one with a cool ribbon
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>>59404096
NTA, but if it's Gen 3 you can get "the Champion" by entering the Hall of Fame.
Much cooler title than the later gens' equivalent of "the [region] Champion".
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>>59404095
It needs to be local. If you're not a pay piggy you only have 50 slots, it's not hard to recreate.
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>>59404109
yeah I got a few of them from Emerald + some Treasured Memory + a Living Legend, they're very cool and slightly rare so I can hand out one to that anon
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>>59404096
>>59404135
I appreciate but nah, give it to someone who actually cares about this stuff, I was just funposting
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Death to stallfags
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>>59404115
>It needs to be local
You were wrong. Or you misunderstood me.
I just tested it. The teams I shared stay in my "manage shared teams" menu even after I delete the teams locally, and I can recreate any of them instantly by just entering the corresponding team ID.
Of course I need to have all the actual pokemon that were part of the team, but that isn't a problem.
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>>59404150
>I need to have all the actual pokemon that were part of the team
Have you tried changing the set to see if it still works?
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>>59404163
You mean changing moves/stats of the pokemon in your box?
It still works, it will just ask you to spend VP to re-train them when you go to replicate the team, since replicating a team means you replicate everything including the moves and such.
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Is it possible to get groomed Furfrous into Champions?
I notice my Furfrou says "natural form" which implies that the other forms are in the game, but I groomed it before transferring from XY to Home and it turned back to normal.
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>>59404178
Yes.
There's a lot of history around this feature, but what you care about: putting furfrou in bank has always reset the trim, the only ways to get a trimmed furfrou in home was transferring from go with a trim or getting them trimmed in za then putting them in home, but you can roll trims in the ranch. If you get a furfrou trimmed in za, it wouldn't have been able to go back to previous switch games, but since it already can't, who cares?
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>>59402280
Where do we find win rate stats? are those for the ladder or the random online tournaments?
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>>59404193
>don't own a Switch
>GO is a slot machine
Looks like I'll have to get one from the GTS, then.
Thanks for the info.
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Does anyone ever put anything except garbage into their Wonder Box in Home?
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>>59404203
Ive seen some good stuff but I just stick it back in
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>>59404201
I haven't done the quest to unlock them otherwise I'd do it. Also the trims are ridiculously annoying to get in GO for normal people. GTS Furfrou trading used to be the biggest bullshit imaginable, so no clue how that's going to go.
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>>59404142
>he says that while using a stall mon
Kek
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>>59404207
It's a pretty long quest chain.
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>>59404201
>>59404207
GTS Go used to be very valuable (they might still be) since they were region-exclusive
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I transferred random garbage from the switch to home to use in champions but the autism in the back of my mind is constantly telling me that the IVs are bad and that I need something with best or fantastic in everything
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>>59404256
IVs don't exist in champions
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>>59404256
don't be a retard champions doesn't have ivs IT DOES NOT FUCKING MATTER DO NOT BELIEVE YOUR OWN LIES
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Signaling all genwunners... Signaling all genwunners....
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>>59404260
>>59404261
Yeah I'm completely aware it doesn't exist in Champions but if I'm going to battle using pokemon I should probably breed better IVs for luck right?
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Playing pokemon just makes me hate pokemon, especially garchomp
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>>59404264
i got you, sent :)
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>>59404265
Nah just bottle cap it if you care
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X items when
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>>59404264
Sent but actually
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girafagrig
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>>59404281
Thanks anon
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>>59403683
Is this the biggest humiliation ritual in franchise history?
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>>59404282
The hand was helping until beset by a play most foul
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>>59404289
when it comes to looks, yeah
him and blastoise both were cucked of their cool factor when the mainline games jumped to 3d for a long while
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>>59402280
Toxapex is just Temu Gliscor. Just let me get my poison orb bro.
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>>59404297
Was playing SV last week, just learned that blastoise swims by shooting jets of water out of his leg holes
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>>59404319
what
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>>59404323
Yeah
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>>59404323
Not him, but all the Kanto starters got pretty noticeable animation/model glow-ups in SV.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WDx6V-YD78
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>>59403838
You also better be running Will-o-Miss on it.
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>>59403683
Why are they seemingly incapable of making 3d fire lol
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>>59404363
they cant even make 3d doors give them a break
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>>59404363
tbf it IS tricky to make good looking 3d fire, but it's TPC/ILCA we're talking about so the fact we got something "decent" at all is a miracle
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>Rain gets accurate thunder and hurricane
>Sunlight gets instant solar beam/blade
>Snow gets accurate blizzard
>Sand gets...?
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>>59404382
Sandforce ig
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>>59404382
Perfect accuracy Stone Edge in Sandstorm would be fair. Rock Slide doesn't need a buff.
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>>59404426
Rock Slide should guarantee flinch in sunny weather because you can't see the rocks properly when looking up at the bright sun to block the rocks
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>>59404382
accurate earthquake
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>>59404382
Earthquake should hit levitate in sand
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>>59404447
thank you for the suggestion satan
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So as a newer player. What kinds of teams should I be looking at to build up fundies? Not necessarily what's going to make me win, but what is going to teach me good fundamentals for doubles so that I can do better when I do better teams.
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>>59404382
Rock Slide should have increased priority in sand
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>>59404354
When will Gamefreak update pokemon cries?
All the older ones sound super crunchy because they were created on gameboy hardware. It sounds really out of place compared to later pokemon.
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>>59404474
sorry but that removes the SOVL from KANTOOOooOoo pokemon
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>>59403942
gallade is so much better than base garde tho
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>>59404459
perish trap gengar
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>>59402280
At which rank in doubles do I really need to not overthink?
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>>59404546
pokeball 1 to ultraball 3 is easier if you always expect the expected
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>>59404459
you could try any of the weather teams like rain.
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Kindly beat some sense to me, I have no idea what I'm doing and is hard stuck at Ultra 3
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I can finally rest. Yeah I don't care about elo lmfao I just wanted master on both on my very first season. Winstreak from UB3 got me to MB4 real quick.
Thanks again to the anon that gave me the Torkoal ;3
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Where do I find good singles team
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>>59404578
i get what youre going for with surf, but spout or pulse is gonna be better once your vaporeon is gone
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>>59404382
chip damage
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>>59404578
Why Blizzard over Ice Beam in Blastoise? I feel like Liquidation is a poor choice too on Scarf Chomp since your team has a pretty negative match-up to Fairy spam. Maybe switch it for Iron Head or something?
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>>59404578
Round isn't that good. It is forcing you to run dragapult, which isn't that great by itself. And not running spirit break and light screen on grimm is a mistake. Replace liquidation for iron head and take off that scarf because chomp needs coverage and flexibility. And spout over surf, ice beam over blizzard. As much as possible eliminate any variables of rng messing up your game if you want consistency.
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>be me
>playing champs for 2nd season
>got master nut last season, want something bigger this time
>find out theres "champion tier" above master nut
>letsdothis.exe
>current master nut 2
>the grind is real
>find out champion tier is top 300
>3 fucking hundred
>have to over grind nips and all the tournament goers
>give up
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>>59404642
There were some guys that glitched out and got the champion tier rewards despite having low elo. It's so funny lol
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>dont fight a single trick room in over a week
>make a trick room team
>every single trick room user comes out of the woodwork
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>>59404683
out-trick their room
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>>59404601
Garchomp and a fairy
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Tailwind really should have negative priority
Prove me wrong
Pro-tip, you can't.
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I dont have any mainline games but I want better teams, should I just start playing pokemon go
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>>59404708
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>>59404428
Solar beam should take 4 turns to activate in all other weather because the sun is blocked
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TR really should have positive priority
Prove me wrong
Pro-tip, you can't.
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>>59404725
I mean thats my point
They're both very powerful speed control tools
But one is tied to hyper negative priority and the other is COMPLETELY FREE.
One or the other, both negs or both normal. No obvious favorites
Slow pokemon have been shit for years, throw them a bone.
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>umbreon in range to get KO'ed by basc
>use After You with Lopunny into Foul Play with a -4SpA Rotom Heat on the other side with my opponent trying that mega sceptile goob trash
>opp forfeits
Love this situational move when it works so much it's unreal
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>Can't pick which Pokemon to bring out when you get Roar'd
Has this always been a thing?
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>>59404578
there is so much jank here idk where to start. Not running protect on your primary carry blastoise for starters
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>>59404747
yes, it's random.
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>>59404747
I think so, also a protip with Roar, it beats Trick Rooms priority by 1, though imprison is probably the best way to deal with the giraffe if you can't double KO it, Taunt is next but there's the rare faggot who carries mental herb
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>>59404727
you just made a lot of prankster abusers very angry, change your opinion or else
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>opponent leads M-Sceptile and Rotom-H, starts doing the thing
>whittle away his Sceptile and his Garchomp while ignoring Rotom spamming Discharge all game
>down to just my Houndstone
>he’s forced to nuke his own Greninja while my boi tanks the Discharge and KOs with Night Shade
Don’t spam Discharge unless you’re prepared to spam Discharge pal
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>it's an Oranguru and Torkoal episode
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>>59404466
Rock Slide should have increased priority for me and negative priority as well as 50 accuracy for my opponent
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>>59404800
get inferno'ed
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Is Floette really that good why does everyone and their mom want this thing
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>>59404836
yeah it's pretty good
can be run as either a bulky mon or a nuke, both equally as viable
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>>59404836
It's the strongest fairy in the game
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>>59404836
Is good but people really wants it as is the most exclusive Pokemon allowed and can't really be rolled, just transfered. So "just in case" in the future want to use it, is better to get it when it's available
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>>59404836
It's basically Fluttermane but with a side of Xerneus.
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>vileplume spamming sleep powder
>puts my whole team to sleep
>he loses anyway because hes a dumb fucking retard
hey, uke go kill yourself ;)
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>>59404800
Just Taunt the monke, umbreon next to ceruledge destroys trick room
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Qwilfish status?
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>>59404870
Sleep is why I put a Lum Berry on one of my mons
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How should dragalge be built anyway? I heard it's either bulky toxic build or offensive pivot build.
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>>59404870
I wish vileplume was better
When's GF gonna start doing minor stat buffs to old mons again. They did it for like 1 gen and then never again.
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>>59404882
We got overquil
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>>59404889
Forever thrown back in the ranch build
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>>59404836
Another anon suggested it but if you can get your hands on a regular Floette then you can occasionally snipe some shit from people on GTS who put things up without specifying Eternal Flower forme. I just got a shiny Kyurem yesterday kek
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>accidentally play ranked with my perish trap prankster meowstic gravity hypnosis WIP team
>their raichu was X and it knew Zap Cannon and it never missed for whatever reason
>their pelliper used hurricane on gallade behind light screen for confusion so it couldn't set up trick room
>mega gengar gets fully parad
Guess that's karma for trying something so malicious
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>>59404760
Happy to hear that Houndstone is working out for you, anon.
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>>59403231
if you don't mind it being from Go
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>>59404382
You forgot the absolutely fair and balanced move.
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Test
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>>59405022
Yeah I'm OK with that
HOME friend code is LCTCNUDWVKMZ, I haven't done friend trades on it before though
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>>59405012
Hell yeah, are you the anon that helped me fix him up? Cuz I didn’t realize at the time, but this set completely dismantles Kingambit, it’s hilarious to watch. I’ve gotten four forfeits tonight alone from people when they realize I’m just going to Trick Scarf and Disable their Kingambit and they will NEVER get the juicy Sucker Punch on my ghost doggo.
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>opponent BMs me by setting up corvik ight at +6 Iron Defense
>All the while my mimikyu is killing itself with life orb damage doing pitiful damage even at +6 attack with shadow claw
>In just waiting for that crit as he spams roost
>last tick of health, crit finally goes off killing him and myself from life orb
I can smell the seethe even from a million miles away
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>>59404578
This team I kinda janky, I suggest finding some pre-built team and working from there.

Blastoise should replace blizzard with protect or fake out, and surf with sprout.
Replace roiund on sylveon with quick attack, replace dragapult but idk with who
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>>59404498
but I want to paly gardevoir
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>>59405045
That's me.
I'm just getting into Doubles myself now, I hit Master Ball in Singles a couple days ago.
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>>59405056
That image doesn't really make any sense.
A male Kirlia can evolve into Gardevoir. It's a female Kirlia who can never be a Gallade.
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Anyone with a Torkoal + Oranguru lead I can test a team with? I can set up a private battle real quick
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>put a bunch of Torchics in the Wonder Box in Home
>everyone else had the same idea so all the mons I get for them are NFE and can't be used in Champions
>I don't own any Switch games so I can't even evolve them
I guess I have the potential to trade up using the GTS, at least.
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It makes perfect thematic sense for tailwind to have atleast -2 priority too, takes a bit for the wind to pick up steam
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One dark/ghost smeargle plsase
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>>59405074
A trainer can force his male kirlia to evolve into gallade instead of letting him naturally evolve into gardevoir
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>>59405115
Her grandfather owns a gym, but she works out at the library...
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>>59405044
Welp nevermind just got a shiny Tyrantrum for a Gholdengo in GTS
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>went 1-2 in BSS
>oh shit
>my last pokemon managed to wall and beat the remaining 2 pokemon
>haha eat shit
I guess it's just the nature of Pokemon battles as a whole



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