Faster than Speed EditionPokémon Champions is a free to play online battle simulator available on Switch and mobile. It features ranked, casual and private battles for both singles and doubles, and will be used for VGC tournaments in 2026.>NewsPokemon Champions is out on mobile devices.Monthly Challenge for June starts on 26th, ends on 29th. Single Battles. Participants gets a Tyranitar.Enter HAJ1MAR1G1FT for a free 100 Quick Coupons and CHAMP10N for a free Machamp.>Resources and useful linksCommunity Tournaments usage data: https://pikalytics.com/Ladder usage data: https://pokechamdb.com/enNew Player Guide(NEW PEOPLE READ THIS):https://rentry.org/pcg-guide (now taking suggestions and feedback)Quick FAQ>Do I need my own Pokémon to play?No, the game features a recruitment system, but transferring from Home is recommended to save time and resources.>What makes the game so much more accessible than before?All aspects of a Pokémon are customizable with VP, a currency earned simply by playing the game. IVs are also removed.Ask in the thread if you want any specific Pokémon, and someone will respond.>Is there single player content?No.>Do I need a Nintendo Online subscription?No.>What's the starter pack?US$6.99 one time purchase for 50 training tickets (fully train for free), 30 Teammate Tickets (recruit Pokemon without using VP), 50 extra box space and the LGPE trainer music. Only available on Switch for now.>Is anything locked behind a paywall?So far everything gameplay relevant is also purchasable with VP. Only E-Floette require ZA transfer.>/pcg/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread):https://pastebin.com/d2FJZdPhPrevious: >>59408011
Got my shiny Ralts. Was lucky and got it before I even got the right nature from the breedjects, so I'm happy enough. I have about three other breedject Ralts I feel comfortable enough giving away if anyone else would like them. Two male and one female, all in Love Balls and with wrong natures. Gonna EV train them now as if they were going to be Gardevoirs so hit me up if you want one.
>>59411080Raikou paradox
>play vgc>everyone is making confident plays>play smogon>constantly make lifereads on the opponent
official delphox third move tierlist: scorching sandsgrass knotreflectfocus blast nasty plotdazzling gleamencorefire blastPOWER GAPsubstitutewispsolar beam
shit game
pokeaim doing hitler's work spamming overqwil like its going out of style
this shit is so ass
>>59411137>>59411222kys nigger
They didn't nerf make it rain hard enough
When are those faggots gonna finally add in the rest of the missing Pokémon, items and moves? It's completely unacceptable that it comes with most of the shit missing and drip fed back to us since launch meanwhile the Stadium and Battle Revolution games came with the complete gen 1/2/4 rosters
I cooked this last night when i couldnt sleep, won quite a lot in MB. But i think it could be improved. I think il switch hippo to mega t tar so i can ohk matchas with d dance knock offs.
>>59411245Also nothing is more satisfying than upper handing incelroars.
>>59411225lol you first niggerbtw theres shit in your ass rn lmfao
>>59411225ILCA not gonna fuck you lil bro
>>59411245>But i think it could be improvedyeah, not running mega garchomp for starters
We need a pokemon that can handle charizard Y under sun for tr teams. It can't be a grass or water mon because Shillzard is the best grass pokemon in the format. Like yes there is Torkoal, but we need one more.
>>59411317
>>59411260Yea that i sadly figured out lol.
>>59411317Try Dragalge
>>59411350Wait, that's actually a good idea.
>>59411317zard x with no speed and rock slide lol
dedicating half my team to countering zard sucks balls, megas were a mistake
And back to taking L after L…
>>59411137>>59411222Cope and sneed
>poor predictable sneasler, always picks fake out>good ol fake out, nothin beats that!
>>59411397Literally me with incineroarFirst turn fake out, second turn parting shot. They will never see it coming.
>>59411089trying to make unconventional megas work is nigh impossible unless you have the perfect support mons. Mega Gyara after DD setup doesn't hit remotely as hard as it needs to if you invest in the needed bulk to survive attacks, and if you prioritise power to get KOs it will die before you can even click a move. Without cheating shit like sinistcha you cannot keep up with powercreep nowadays
>>59411179so he's helping the jews establish another illegitimate state?
what do you guys use to counter pixilate hyper voice spam
Anyone mind helping with a shiny Froslass?Everything else can be whatever
>>59411420throat chop
>>59411424okay but maybe something that's also useful outside of this specific scenario
>>59411317My Mega Garchomp OHKOs with a surprise power gem (bec fck rock slide). He has 2 on spatk.
>>59411420Just go wham on the sylveon and kill it
>>59411421Sent :)
>>59411426The fix is sneasler or iron head Gambit, or Venusaur, or fake out support, or steel types, or soundproof etcI'm not going to pretend Sylveon isn't excellent. Mine was calc'd to live an adamant dire claw during season 1.
>>59411409I saw a Mega Gyarados the other day that wasn't running crunch. It cost him the game because ice fang is not the sauce vs Basc.I almost forfeited before deciding to play out one more turn.
>>59411429Are you running modest?That's not KOing a large swath of Zards.
>>59411368use Sneasler, Incineroar, life orb 'chomp. you'll win 90% of the time or your pokedollars back.
Is trick room still cheating if I don't use the giraffe
>>59411441yes, you shouldn't be able to contest tailwind unless you bring your own tailwind settertrick room is cancer
>>59411317Literally mega glimmora lol
>>59411429>101 speed>trick room
>>59411431why
>>59411449literally everyone is running tailwind these days so 101 speed is actually 50 speed
>>59411449>>59411454Sorry, 102 speed. 101 is >>59411448
>>59411429I feel like dropping Poison Jab at times for Power Gem, but also I need a consistent way to shit on Whimsicott turn 1.
>>59411445
does sableye actually work in doubles or is it just a memeI have trouble believing a 380bst shitmon can survive in this meta but maybe ghost dark typing and prankster are just THAT good
>>59411481it's the fotm from three weeks ago because it can spam random prankster shitit's useless
>>59411481It’s just Grimmsnarl with Rain Dance
>Make team that has a good matchup to basc>Everyone suddenly stops using it
>>59411449Brave Mega Garchomp to reduce speed. It works. Not the best, but he gets the job done when he does. Max hp, max atk, 2 in spatk. I dont always run him tho. Venusaur is my other mega depending on the matchups.>>59411456Iron head is better than poison jab. I run:>Iron head>Power gem>EQ>Protect/Breaking swipe (whatever i feel like that day)
>>59411441who cares if its cheating, get that VP champ>>59411537poison jab gives you 30% chance to kill whims through sash tho
>Opponent brings both Staraptor and Mawile against my Milotic>Staraptor uses final gambit against Kommo-o t1Thanks for the free sweeper I guess.
>>59411555I hit him twice with both Pokemon. If singles i'd run regular jolly chomp with poison jab but it's doubles heh
>>59411537Run rock slide, you are doing yourself a disservice.
they should nerf auto weather setting abilities to last fewer turns and manual weather setting to last slightly longer it's clear after years of seeing weather metas play out that the former is too strong and the latter is too bad to be worth doing
>>59411591having to double up on support mons is a massive liability and easily exploited
>>59411608Prankster mons don't need even more value than they already do, thanks.
>>59411608that would just result in prankster weather becoming more necessary which would only benefit sun/rain further
>>59411608nah don't buff manual weather (prankster) but make it so weather abilities only work while the mon is on the field and go away when they switch out or faint
>>59411620Why do you want an entire playstyle to be unusable?
>>59411441Based Forretress appreciator
>>59411596Rock slide has missed both targets more times than i can count. No thank you. Same reason i dont run heat wave on Zard Y anymore whenever I feel like running that team. RNG hates me so i'd prefer surer hits and control what i can.>>59411610Mega chomp is like my sub dps mon lol and i use him to take some hits. I run the Koal. But i switch it up among the team if i feel like the matchup makes it obvious the other guy knows how to counter the usual tr koal setup. It does work tho, got a 10 W streak so far after my dailies today. But then again im not playing as much and just shitposting now lol
>>59411608>they should nerf auto weather setting abilities to last fewer turnsGood news, they did. It used to last forever.
>>59411639yeah but they also did that to manual weather I'm not mad about weather being good, only how much better auto weather is than manual weather to the extent that the only way to play the archetype is using one of a small number of auto setters (or sometimes prankster dance/day)
>>59411645>I'm not mad about weather being good, only how much better auto weather is than manual weather to the extent that the only way to play the archetype is using one of a small number of auto settersWow, free thing from an Ability is better than spending a turn on it, amazing. Next you'll tell me that tons of people use Intimidate but nobody uses Growl
>>59411671sounds like they should buff growl
>>59411608as if swamp + sableye setting manual rain isn't still as cancerous
Where are the pokemon champions memes?
>>59411785
>>59411245Is there really a reason to run hippo when tyranitar exists?
>>59411441>forretress mein neger
>>59411814screens
>>59411785reddit is down the hall and to the left
>>59411844kek
Champions releasing on mobile was a mistake.
>>59411481Prankster is THAT good, but sableye is not. His gimmick is mostly quash and rain dance.
Anyone want a shiny Numel?I got it in Wonder Trade, but it seems to be one of those mons whose shiny is worthless because there are a billion of them on the GTS already.
Haha I can't wait for its mega to be announced next season.
>>5941178510 shekels have been deposited in your bank account.Death to Israel.
>>59411850why? too much competition switchtard?
>>59411873>Death to Israel.back to /pol/, you racistjannies, please clean this thread.
>>59411890>back to /pol/, you racistOnly if Flygon gets a mega evolution.
When are they adding Probopass?
>>59411089Mega AbilitiesReg M-C:Absol ZTough ClawsGolisopodBattle ArmorTatsugiriCommanderReg M-D:Garchomp ZLevitateLucario ZFilterHeatranMagma ArmorBaxcaliburHyper CutterReg M-E:NothingReg M-F:ZygardeAura BreakDarkrai, Zeraora, and Magearna won’t be available until Pokemon Wind and Waves.
>>59411890kys rabbi
>>59411872Does no one have a Scizor
overqwil looks like it should be a tanky pokemon but its not, at all
>>59411933Golisopod should receive water bubble.
>>59411829We found the mr frown here lol
>>59411933>Baxcalibur>Hyper CutterThat's kinda dogshit tbdesu
>>59411933>Garchomp Z>Levitatekek
>>59411933>Absol Z>Tough ClawsShadow claw and night slash go vrrrrrr
>3 out of my 4 scarf'd non-rain thunder connectwtf
>>59411870>implying pokemon co will make new megas for a shitty game that will be EOS within a year.
>>59411933We're not going to see Zygarde outside of a restricted format.Won't see Heatran until sometime after worlds. We won't be able to use any mythical until much later in a double restricted format.
clicking freeze dry on m swampert with my funny ice cream cone never gets old, they NEVER protect to scout it
>>59412048mega swamp players would be offended by this post if they could read any words besides 'earthquake' and 'wave crash'
>>59411890Israelis main Whimsichud
>>59411944The ones who do end up running into the ONE Farig that has the berry that reduces Bug Damage.
Shit Game
50 slots are so restrictive.When is Scamtendo going to let mobile users buy the 7 dollar goypass?
>>59411872>helping hand>Mega Beedrill used U-turn!Trick Room teams are the only teams I can beat. Everything else just fucking farms my team but I am dedicated to my favorite mega.Better to just use your own Farigiraf with Imprison and a point of speed creep. You can also deny protect as an option with Imprison.
>Pelipper>Swampert>Archaludon>every goddamn matchI hate rain teams so much. I'm considering running Drampa purely to fuck them.
>>59412154Oh gosh, I'm sure they're shaking at the idea of facing Drampa.
>>59412154pack something that can tank a hit from swamp and learns freeze dry
>take standard Zard slop with Sylveon over Floette>run sunny day on Whims>never loseIf I see the gremlin I use a double fairy lead because Sableye is the only way to really lose this matchup.
>>59412218*to rain
>>59412218I was just fighting a team with zard and a fairy partner a little while ago and wondering how the fuck you're supposed to counter it guess I had the right instinct
>upper hand doesnt work on non attacking movesthink you could have put that in the move description you hack fraud company
>MB3>opponent tries to helping hand their goldhengoLol mao.
>>59412131some combo of wide guard and follow me can carry almost any shitmon megat. shitmon mega enjoyer
When is /vp/ getting it's own champions championship?
Finally reached MB2.
>big tournament going on on twitch>its all spics/itaniggers speaking their junglespeakamazing
Just saw some bullshit about giving contrary to gholdengo.
>>59412056We go by colours, thank you very much
>>59412384how
>>59412056Hey......I use High HorsePower
>>59412382Thats all that's still playing this, that and Japs playing BSS slop
>>59412388Pokemon with skill swap to replace good as gold, and then malamar with skill swap to give contrary to Gholdengo.Probably not worth it, but one might get sweeped if not anticipating it
>>59412396wouldnt you get GAG blocked unless you had mold breaker?
>>59412404Yes, I lost that part. You need to pass mold breaker to gholdengo (tinkathon), then contrary to it.
>>59411629your rock slide into tantrum?
>>59412413Garchomp would be dead before it gets to do a tantrum. And the only reason for running a rock move is to kill zard y or an aero. I'd rather run earthquake
>>59412406holy shit that aint worth the effort
>>59412406 oh it's a goobius video, love that guyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWRo_qH9q4M
Cant wait for new season so i can just win-losemaxx and vpmaxx in pokeball tier
>>59412384Meh it's not worth it imo
>>59412437
>>59412437>noone runs Tauntchampioniggers really?
>>59411093i wouldn't mind a female ralts c:
new terminal animationhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nY3KX4nYujU
>>59412524>quad protect into stone missSomeone calculate the odds on that one.
>>59412437damn I love meme setups that take three turns to set up and rely on your opponent being completely retarded
>>59412528About 0.014%. less than a chance in 7000.
>>59412524rate
If they added a pokemon whose signature move could flip its gender, would Attract be competitively viable on it?
>>59412558>King’s Rock Aerodactyl Does he know?
>>59412561>waste a turn to flip gender then use AttractA more viable approach would be to introduce a Pokemon so attractive its ability allows Attract on the same gender. Stuff like Milotic and Salazzle with that whole pheromone lore could get it too
>>59412561>officially bi pokemonaw hell naw
>use poltergeist>focus sash triggers>use poltergeist again>there is no focus sash anymorealso i thought my ditto would form change like the opponents aegislash but it did not
>>59412561attraction is basically just confusion but worse and literally nobody runs confuse ray or even swagger in doubles
What's the best eternal floette sets? Along with teams
>>59412582confusion got nerfed to 1/3 chance iirc so attract if still at 1/2 chance is better when it works
>>59412582Swagger got confusion nerfed
I could make swagger work with a sneasler and a berry, or an own tempo mon like mudsdale or sth
>>59412588>>59412593damn you're right i'm just old
>>59412575>I don't like 'em putting abilities in the game that turn the friggin' pokemon gay!
>>59412582>>59412588I'm theorizing a set that combines Swagger AND Attract so the pokemon is just never able to do anything.
>>59412585Start with stuff that can take care of Steel Pokemon and Sneasler I guess
>>59412585Incin, mousehold/gambit/sinistcha, delphox, garchomp, aerodactyl
is palafin a shitmon
>Xitter residents complaining about the giraffeIs this really a thing? It’s easy to shut down if you prepare for it
>>59411441Trick room will never be cheating as long as whimsicott is legalIt's always funny to see them trying to taunt or encore my hatterene
>>59412661bros...
>>59412661>>59412698No.
>don't make your own teams you are bound to lose! >I don't have the pokemon to build any of the replica teams floating around even though I am master ball singles and still have jackshitBro is this just retard advice or
>>59412672If I see a proper TR team, I'm likely not bringing Whims at all.
>>59412672Why even use hatterene instead of the godlike giraffe?
If you're literal newfag who doesn't know the first thing about comp Pokemon at all, you shouldn't build your team since you have no knowledge of anything, no. But you're not a newfag anymore and should have a good idea of what's meta and why, so go ahead and experiment. You've already made it to the important rank of M4 anyhow.
>>59412731Hatterene has Magic Bounce, so it can't be taunted/encored/etc.Armor Tail only protects against that if the pokemon using the move has Prankster.
>>59412733Meant for>>59412726
>>59412733Ok i'll stop falling for this then. I never played VGCs but I've played enough OU to kill a cow. Cheers
>>59412726You lost the moment you pressed "singles".
>>59412734Say that to the fake out fags that try to stop TR
>>59412731Short answer is I like HattereneLong answer, for the same reason one wouldn't just look up what is the objectively best team for a given strategy and just copy it. The game is simply more fun when you're using pokemon you like and it's also fun to try to find a way to make a pokemon you like work in the competitive scenario. Also, it's not like hatterene is a bad pokemon either. Like >>59412734 said she does fill a niche that the giraff does not, and since she is less used your opponents will missplay more often against you.
Someone i faced had 2 n****r teams in one yesterday, they led with mega gengar and incin and had toilet bird and the bridgimon in the back, would've won if that stupid archaludon didn't live on 1hp from m-lopunnys CC, game favors cancerous players, a garchomp on 10% health and a life orb didn't faint after attacking, there was a glitch where it looked like it fainted but the game decided to make it live on 1% health, still won that game at least
>>59412772You can say nigger here, anon.
>>59412206I took your advice and rustled up a Glaceon. But she doesn't even have to tank the hit, because she learns Detect and I paired her with a Trick Room Meowstic, who can definitely tank for one turn. Then next turn Glaceon goes first and one-shots Swampert. Even better, Meowstic can do Prankster weather control, so I can fuck over rain/sun teams before they even have the chance to do anything.
how would you nerf amongus so it doesn't singlehandedly make half the current support mons irrelevant the second it's added?
>>59412806remove rage powder
Love when I bluff not bringing raYchu and then archaludon tries to use electro shot on my water type
>>59412806Remove pollen puff.Also if (when) they add amoongus they better also add safety goggles.
>>59412806>so it doesn't singlehandedly make half the current support mons irrelevantIs Amoonguss that good?
>>59412831there's a reason that ugly dick sucking fuck mushroom is on half of vgc teams where it's available basically the undisputed #2 of doubles right behind le wrasslin cat
>>59412831It is. Bulky pokemon with regenator, has a 100% accurate sleep move in spore, can redirect attacks with rage powder, can heal allies with pollen puff... because it's so good it makes a lot of other mons obsolete.
Somehow I think MegEelektross would work best on some sort trick room + soak araquanid/bellibolt gimmick team, he's so average on anything else
>>59412806instead of nerfing it, make the other shitmons with redirection or sleep moves better so they can compete for its team slot
>>59412853>because it's so good it makes a lot of other mons obsolete.great, might make me stop seeing whomosicott
Amoonguss is going to have a shit time with all these powerful fire types.
Love when I get a tard who thinks sneasler is a good lead against my team
>>59412874you'll just see them both on the same team instead
>>59412882Don't doubt the Shroom, anon. Motherfucker had to deal with Mega Ray, Groundon, and Talonflame on every other team and STILL got two spots in the top 10 at Worlds for 2016.
>>594128942015 for comparison.
>>59412894>bronzong, raichu, hitmontopwtf was this mickey mouse meta
>>59412912BROnzong would be great if he was in champions
>>59412912Hitmontop used to be a VGC staple before, y'know, HE arrived. Bronzong got used as a TR/Safeguard/Skill Swapper.
Wish there was a feature where I could send hate mail to anyone who uses Fagiraffe
I'm at 2k and hard tr seems fucking impossible. GOD damn. What is another cool gimmicky team design?
>>59412938I use Farigiraf, knock yourself out.
>>59411933>Lucario Z>Filteryou tried
Why do people bitch about farig? HO directly counters it, and there are so many different ways to stop TR. I doubt less than 1-5% of them are holding mental herb if you don't want to play HO.
>>59412953It's not the Trick Room variant that's the issue but the ones that are on regular teams
>>59412957What exactly is normal farig doing worth bringing? Stopping fake out/sp obviously, but that doesn't seem like it validates a spot - and is again countered by HO.
>>59412957>>59412961There is no difference except running helping hand over a psychic move/tbolt - sometimes.
>>59412853>has a 100% accurate sleep move in sporeIsn't sleep shit now? No one ever bothers with it.
>>59412978Still pretty busted, Yawn on the last 2 mons with Protect feels like a pseudo Perish trap
>>59412978>Isn't sleep shit now?oh my sweet summer child
>>59412924Hitmontop was still good in SV, used it a bit in reg I because it was Incin with Wide Guard, Sucker Punch + STAB CC.
>gay retard tries to trick room wars me vs just imprison>doesn't comprehend wideguard>4-0 his ass2.1k elo btw
>Get ready to battle the Trainer
>>59413011I've bitched this guy multiple times
>>59412894>>59412897>90% of teams using the same monsMetas like this are such trash.
>>59412218>>59412241click wideguard turn 1 (they will 99.99% heatwave and or hypervoice/gleam) click trick roomdouble up liquidation + psychic fangs
>>59413016WHEN I SAY GENIES YOU SAY THANK YOUGENIES
Pokemon Champions has taught me that after all these years I am in fact *not* a Pokemon Master. I suck.
>>59412912Wolfe actually did a good video on exactly why his team looks so retarded and why they worked well as an anti-meta team
>>59413024Fuck you genies
>>59413024I will forever respect the genies for how hard they carried a few shitmons to get them the master rank ribbon for me.
>use set up move in front of pikottons stupid abo face>protect while my other mon uses taunt
>>59413053But you can get better
>>59413053The fact theres also the VP aspect to unlock mons and movesets keeps the pressure off protecting elo, also don't let pride get in the way of using a meta team to get used to the game till you can make a fun team that counters the meta
what do you think is the most retarded team you can make in this game right now? like one of the elemental monkeys, normal qwilfish, some other shit like that so you look like a complete fucking retard to your opponent.
>>59413088Something with Samurott
>>59413088castform, watchog
>>59413088I tried to do something retarded with a tailwind pelliper using soak for a serperior thinking i was a genius and lost elo cause I was high and sleepy and pelliper is way slower than serp, might be able to do that thing with a bulky swift swim basc with rain dance
>>59413088If you want something bad but still funny you can either do the elemental monkeys or some protect the king team with falinks and go for +6 everything
Will coaching/howl boost opportunist twice?
>>59413116Doesn't coaching not boost the user, only the recipient?
>>59412978When sleep connects it can instantly shut down most plays. There's a reason Raichu will never be allowed to learn sing ever again.
>just want a fun casual battle with my soak into grass/elec move meme strat>fag brings perish trap nonsense with an Encore whimI know they're practising using such a dark skin coded tactic but still what a cunt
>Ultra Ball Tier 1!!>so close to reaching MB>4 loss streak>back down to Tier 2>can't catch a fucking break>only get back into Tier 1 because my opponent forfeitedI don't think I'll bother trying to get into MB...
The grind for dubs M4 was so real that I now forgot how to play singles. I tried playing a few games and mostly just lost elo kek
>>59413133you are almost there, keep going
I need to stock up on vp. This season cant end sooner
>>59413134You legitimately have to turn your brain off a bit for singles.
The glimm is inn (for now), toxic debris has more value in dubs than i expected, being able to KO non sash pelliper is nice
>>59413134Dubs makes you forget how tricky this game can be without the meta in singles.
Ok glimm is shit
>>59413133I'm sorry for your misfortune anon.I believe in you.
>>59412831The incineroar of grass pokemon
It's so satisfying to KO something with untransformed PalafinThey never see it coming
>>59413204Who is the Incineroar of all the other types?
Still cant find an amoonguss in GO but its ok we got till september...
>>59413209Try your daily incense
>>59413205I see it, but I seldom worry about it as even my Gambit is living CC.
what should i use to just get to masters in singles easily and 100% guaranteed instantly
>tfw my opponent is the one to choke for once
>Protect blocks non-damaging moves from allies like Heal Pulse
>>59413246Yep, but not coaching or decorate.
Hope every basculegion player gets covaxaids
>>59413246Not life dew :)
>>59413235Charizard Floette, or as I've taken to calling it, FloweY
>>59413256Doubt that's the sauce in singles.I do recommend people try Sylveon over Floette though.
>give him hp and speed >Even with intimidate arbok is still getting ACKed in one shotCome on nigga. Tank a fucking hit. All I need you to do is get a gunkshot off. I'm trying so hard to make you work.
>>59413260focus sash lel
>>59413260Why the FUCK would you waste points in Arbok in bulk? Go Adamant LO and pray or nothing at all.
>>59413268I want to get in a position to get coil off. He's too fucking useless to be an attacker
>>59413238Fake out into the giraffe? forgot that electroshot needs rain?
Damn I suck as a froslass player
>>59413312What is going wrong? Who do you partner the Froslass with?
>>59413024THANK YOU GENIES
>>59413319Froslass/Archa/garchom/whimsi/inci
>>59413323Not the most original group, but what problems are you running into?
>>59413319>>59413323Sorry I hit enter Froslass/Archa/garchom/whimsi/inci and a rotating sixth I am trying to figure out. Now it's Delphox.My problem is that I just get outplayed. I should have a grass move on Whimsi for rain, but then I open myself up to dark pokemon like grimm. For this reason I put dazzling gleam on delphox, but it's not convincing me.
>>59413189>>59413202the duality of a champions players
>>59413331Maybe try pairing it with Scrafty by replacing the incin, you get to fake out and brick break if you care about screens, plus it gets intimidate so you don't have to worry as much about physical attacks.Regular Tauros can also get the job done with Raging Bull, fighting move, steel move (if you're worried about Grimm specifically. Also gets helping hand.I wouldn't worry about absolutely needing super-effective hits, neutral Blizzard is going to do a lot regardless.
>>59413343Fudge I just passed on scrafty to take kommo-o for memesWell the next regulation is in few days
>>59413359>regulationThe new pokemon. You know what I meant.
>>59413359>>59413361I thought we weren't getting new pokemon until September.
>>59411089HH should be bumped up to +6Protect and friends to +5Upper hand and quick guard to +4 to fuck off fake out users.
they should have different pokemon every season so faggots stop using the same ones. I mean this season shouldn't have any of the pokemon from the last one.
>>59413438im happy you are not in charge.
https://x.com/lorcylovesyou/status/2073519097136984419lorcy a funny nigga
Sylveon is harder to deal with than eternal floette cause it can be used alongside charizard which makes me hesitant to bring scizor
Kingambit keeps raping my trickroom teams, what do I run to counter him
>>59413276That game they couldve used liquidation on my +2 scizor to ko it with azumarill but opted for aqua jet and scizor lived to bullet punch it twice
>Aegislash going up in usage by the prosOK how do I counter it?
>>59413459Pangoro?>>59413477Pyroar?
>>59413448if they're not going to have all of them that would be better. best case is no pokemon are missing. so they could do what I said so you don't see the same shit 24/7 until they added all or nearly all of the pokemon to the game files.
>>59413487or at least don't add all of the most meta of meta powercreeped pokemon in right off the bat so everyone can have a chance to see some different playstyles and strategies that aren't basically what's been done all of gen 8 and gen 9.
>>59413477The bara tiger of healthy and balanced meta.
>>59413024Kill yourselves, genies.
> No one falls for my upper hand anymoreWtf, aint no way every nigga expects it.
>>59413523I guess you've just lost the upper hand...
>>59413528
>Power Whip into Farig>Sap SipperAlright man
>>59413574I'm always expecting the sap sip but it hasn't happened yet.
man there really is like no niche for psychic types anymore, ghost and fairy just do everything it does better forgive me I know it's been this way for a decade but I'm still mourning
TAILWIND IS SO FUCKING GAY
>>59413648You are paying for the menace they were in gen 1
>>59413655it's been THIRTY YEARS
>>59413660It will last 432000 human years.
>>59413660and jesus did the same 2000y ago.we still have a long way to go a psychic fans.
>>59413653>just use TR bro
>>59413664I didn't know Jesus spammed Amnesia
>>59413668read the holy book, son.
Weather was a mistake
>>59413692it's really just sun and rain that are the problem, making two types that are already good even better with retardedly strong boosts sand and snow are perfectly reasonable
>>59413312I, too, struggle to click Blizzard sometimes.
>>59413648Psychic is artificially crippled by Gamefreak not wanting to put terrain setters in
>>59413701give rain/sun the pixilate treatment and cut the modifier from 50% to 30% so it no longer turns every neutral matchup into an easy win
>>59413735honestly pixilate spam is still obnoxious even at 30%
>>59413743they did tone it down to 20% and weather would probably be fine at 20% as well given the defensive utility it provides but i bet some compy pro could do the maths to see which number is the most appropriate
>>59413438Have a season consist of only Pokemon in the bottom 100 used and watch as people flip shit.
>>59413735That would make weather a limp noodle.You're supposed to desire weather control when it's meta relevant.We just had an entire generation where weather control was much less relevant, it's fine to see it cycle back to being important.No, Koraidon wasn't everywhere, no protosynthesis didn't necessitate sun on all teams since booster existed.
>>59413743The problem is how absurdly strong Fairy typing is. It needs a third weakness or for a type to be immune to it entirely.
Fuck this metaslop, i'm gonna make a meme team
>>59413477Incin VIOLATES it. But in case you're not running Incin:- Basculegion- CharY- Excadrill- Garchomp- Sinistcha- Swampert- Torkoal- Tyranitar
My Japanese emolga for your Blaziken onegaishimasu
Is mega houndoom even any good, i just got it from the trial roster
>>59413801I wouldnt be opposed to making fairy weak to bug.
>>59413849>Is mega houndoom even any goodlollmao
>>59413849No
I'm going to go the entire season without seeing a basculegion in the ranch. It's not THAT good in TR but my team is so insanely weak to ground.
>>59413849i mean its aight. Some anon got to Masters with it on the second season.>>59413844sent :)
>>59413776Koraidon placed first, second and third last vgc finals so while it wasn't the obvious tourney read it was still hands down the best strategy. I don't mind weather control being part of the game but seeing how the latest VGC international was zard only in the top 5 it's maybe time to think about balance a little. We have seen the kyogre/groudon format a million times before.
>>59413900Arigathankssss
>>59413906Yeah, but Kyogre and Groudon while good in the previous format, were not capable of doing what the bikes/Wolves/horses did.Koraidon being the meta call for Worlds was probably a combination or right time, right place and the fact Gio didn't really play any other team during Reg I. He knew every matchup and how to mitigate the weak ones.
>>59413978CHADlisify keeps being proven right
>look mom i posted it again
>>59413978based
>>59413523What are you even running it with?
>>59413523im at 2.1k and have literally never seen someone use it, and people COMMONLY attack into wide guard mutliple turns in a row
yes baby i just made a good singles team and got to masters in singles real quick after streaking so I'm masters in singles and doubles now. my friend is using my same team too because he kept telling me he was losing and I kept saying I was winning so I gave him my team and now he's winning too. and it has no gay faggot pokemon on the team from new faggot gens like 3ds or switch that everyone uses because I only use cool rare special OG pokemon that are unbeatable together that no one uses because they're all drones and too gay and stupid to make an amazing team of awesome pokemon like me. and it rapes all the gay faggot pokemon they use that you see in every single match because faggot retards only use pokemon from a pool of about 20 different pokemon total that they saw their youtube and twitch gay dadas use when they were watching them on their sticky ipad while they were laying down on their stomach and kicking their legs eating cookies and milk on the floor.
And then everyone clapped. Right?
How do I improve this team? Singles Ultra 2 shitter, I'm still learning the meta but got every Pokemon available.- Dragonite (Jolly), Expert Belt: Outrage, Ice Spinner, Thunder/Fire Punch. It breaks Garchomp leads, but I miss the no contact of a special Dragonite.- Either Mega Charizard or Raichu Y, for special attacks. Switching in normal Raichu eats Archaludon's attacks.- Kingambit, Black Glasses/Supreme Overlord or Azumarill (Adamant). I can't set up the later in any way, do I have to lead or is Belly Drum a thing for doubles?
>>59413883Its insane how this kid now has a workout vod and a GF lol
>>59414040he was just trolling and it was pretty funny. he wasn't actually that retarded.
>>59414034Im guessing you are playing singles.If you just want one pokemon to slot in to just win a shot straight to Masters then its probably Basculegion with scarf. Yes Last Respects is that broken.setup sweepers are a bit easier to do in singles, but you need a safe switch in. For those reasons, mimikyu is the best setup mons since i just dont see a mon azumarill can belly drum safely in front of. If you just want a dedicated garchomp killer then just play scarf meowscarada with triple axel since it also beats a ton of other leads
does anyone else find team building very fun but then actually playing the game to be a boring flowchart?
>>59414034- scarf meowscarada lead, triple axel wins into dragons and you can u-turn out of bad matchups- weak armor sash ceruledge with swords dance to boost and kill anything that gives you a turn- pex in the back to autowin 2/3 matchesGot to masterball with more or less just these 3 in a single winstreak. Your biggest counter is rain so have a way to discourage swamperts and duraludons.
>>59414067part of the teambuilding is finetuning based on test matches tho. gotta know the field to beat the field
>>59413523i am literally the only person ive seen use upper hand
>>59414067the entire game is rock paper scissors style guessing, or if you're incredibly smart just imagining like 20,000 outcomes and hedging your bet on the highest
hope they add my nigga nidoking
>>59413459Anything with a Fighting-type attack will obliterate him.Even my Trick Room Cofagrigus could one-shot him with Body Press.
>>59414091for me its gastrodon
>>59413703I click blizzard but peliper and pert survive, and then they kill me.
>>59414091I just want them to add Metronome.
>>59414091I got a shiny Nidoking from GTS the other day and was considering running a physical version instead since the base attack is higher but man, move base power is everything huh
>>59414093how do you not eat giga shit to sucker punch tho
>>59414199Cofagrigus is pretty bulky, he can probably tank one.That being said, I don't think any Kingambits have TRIED to Sucker Punch Cofagrigus.They might not even expect him to have Body Press. I have literally not seen even a single other person use Cofagrigus yet, so maybe no one knows how to play against him.
>>59414212Whats your team? I love cofa but i have no idea how id fit him into my TR team.
I think... I miss terrain...
Is snow just the worst weather ever and completly unviable or is it just me?
>>59414274It's the weakest weather but far from unviable now thanks to defense boost and aurora veil.
>>59414274It's only ok if you either go all in or use it purely as a supporting weather, like aurora veil and nothing else
>>59414274Snow made Articuno a viable mon.Froslass is still a top 5 mega in this meta.
>>59414227cofa deez
what’s the best stat distribution for this guy?>max S.att max Speed?>max S,att max bulk?>something else?i use it for the mega, not for chlorophyll
who i can use as my team fodder? bellibolt + rotom are my main pokemon (e.terrain + rising voltage combo) but i don't feel that they have a synergy with third mon i always put (its either scizor or palafin). i gave bellibolt a magnet, because his ability is nerfed in champions honestly, this all came from cobblemon server where bellibolt was a fucking menace with its bulk and damage from electromorphosis + soak, sadly, belli isn't as bulky as he is on lvl 100 as he is here and gets two shot by garchomps which is mildly infuriating
>>59414474Weavile fans rise up, we all know she's better than Sneasler, so why are we even considering the Purple Woman instead?>fastest non mega fake out in the game? check.>OHKO Sneasler, Dragonite, farigaraf, AND Garchomp, out speeding all of them (except when scarfed)? check. >100% OHKO on sinistcha hitting all 3 triple axels btw.>Being cuter and less confusingly sexy than sneasler? check!The only thing she dies to is everything! So give Weavile a chance today!
>>59414494*stands up* why didn't i thought of that? i always used that mon before! hope they add toxicroak desu
>>59414474You know Rotom doesn't benefit from terrain right?
>>59414500how so?
>>59414474take a ditto for the memes
>>59414505He flying.
is traditional double screens worth it in doubles? i feel like sableye might work there
>>59414508cool
>>59414513Yes, it's not uncommon at all.
>>59414499Anon... toxicroak is available in champions.>>59414513With light clay it is. Tons of teams use it.
>>59414508say sike
>>59414517Sike, he actually floating.
>>59414516di molto bene
>>59414508waitwaitwaitwait. you mean he's not getting the power boost either? oh fuck me i need a magnezone now
>>59414517Pokemon who aren't grounded aka flying types or with the levitate ability are immune to the effect of terrains.
>>59414227I've since swapped him out, but pic related is the team I had when I was using him.If the enemy's team didn't look particularly fire-resistant, I led with Typhlosion and Delphox and just mashed Eruption and Copycat until they wiped the enemy or they got taken out. If the enemy was running a rain team or it otherwise looked like using fire would be a problem, I led with Eelektross and Cofagrigus with Qwilfish and Audino as backup.Cofagrigus has considerable bulk, so he always lives long enough to set Trick Room, and Body Press gives him decent damage. I packed Haze just to fuck over Staraptors.Eelektross benefits from Trick Room and can take care of a lot of mons that were a problem for me, though he doesn't do so hot against Garchomp and Archaludon in spite of having Dragon Pulse.I've since swapped to Glaceon + Meowstic and that's giving me more success than Eelektross did. Still, if you WANT to use Cofagrigus, he's a perfectly fine Trick Room setter.
New bread. >>59414574>>59414574>>59414574
>>59414091Would he even be good
>>59411933as long as mega Golisopod doesn't get something like Tactical Retreat=Emergency exit=Wimp out
