>>59412262
lawsuit from Pocketpair incoming

>>59412262
Clawitzer
Blastoise
Inteleon

>>59412262
We already have Remoraid

>>59412262
Never and it would be a bad addition

>>59412375
it should be added and it would be a good addition
you could fight alongside your mons instead of just stay shouting orders

>>59412390
Pokemon doesn't need that

>>59412390
Pokemon are guns and many hit stronger and faster than a bullet.

>>59412292
>>59412294
>all water type
Why?

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>>59412262
It looks pretty cool

>>59412428
Water gun

>>59412400
>>59412401
Pokemon added crafting, it's already open world, it just needs more player autonomy and real time battles with multiple wild pokemons

>>59412262
>>59412375
>>59412400
>>59412401
So far, we have
>Ultimate Weapon = arcane artillery superweapon
>rockets using Infinity Energy = nukes
>Assault Vests as items
>Plasma Frigate = flying fortress equipped with an Ice Type WMD
>undisclosed war in Kanto mentioned by Lt. Surge
>beta Soldier sprite from GSC
>Genesect = pokemon-turned-cyborg
>if we take the anime into account: Fighter Jets, Missile Submarines and Missile Airships which appear in Gen6, not Gen1
Given all these examples, a future conflict involving weapons wouldn't be off, but actually an interesting look at how humans may attempt to be superior than pokemon, like challenging the natural order.

>>59412572
You have no idea what was used as weapons in that war.

Most everything else you list are powerful enough to stop everything at a mass scale, are for Pokemon, or are Pokemon.

At the end of the day making a gun is inefficient. It doesn’t posses the raw damage output to justify creation in a world of Pokemon.

>>59412581
>Most everything else you list are powerful enough to stop everything at a mass scale
True, no gun examples there, yet it doesn't mean infantry guns couldn't be fabricated
>are for Pokemon
the point is that pokemon can be weaponized, as in Genesect's case
>or are Pokemon.
yes, as fuel for mentioned weapons

>At the end of the day making a gun is inefficient. It doesn’t posses the raw damage output to justify creation in a world of Pokemon.
I wouldn't bet on that. If there's a incentive to overpower pokemon, then there can and will be weapons for that. We repeatedly see in most games how humans employ various methods to overpower pokemon - with success.

>>59412581
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsNoAEnn4tg

>>59412262
Palworld would sue

>>59412619
My point is no one are making guns when they can spend that time using superior guns called Pokemon or augmenting superior guns called Pokemon.

At the end of the day all that matters is the Pokemon. If Pokemon exist, guns will not.

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>all these idiot retards who don't know american dick extensions are canon to pokémon
>yet no-one bothers with them because pokémon exist
Picrel, what humans use to mimic the merest abilities of a Garchomp

>>59412669
>Animefag
Planes and jets are not guns and these things can absolutely exist in the world of Pokemon because these inventions are due to humanity’s most desired wish to travel in the dimension of Z.

>mindless seething
Yeah, that's the big secret numbnuts. Guns and other assorted weaponry are irrelevant in the pokémon world, because the pokémon can do a FUCKLOAD more than a 9mm and two clips can.
Mind, it's not as if every fucking evil team ever also doesn't prove this, by absolutely NONE of the criminals carrying an american dick extension (never mind them not just disappearing the nosey cunt kid poking around their hideout - contrary to the real yakuza and other serious criminal organisations) because they have pokémon to bully the normalfags. I've no doubt if Pokémon was an american construct, guns would be a vital part of it. But Japan has under 10 shooting incidents a year and just a handful of gun deaths per year, so don't have the great religious worship of firelegs, arms and weapons burgerstans do (which gets reflected in its media outputs).

>>59412691
an antimaterial rifle should put a garchomp down

>>59412262
Item: Soaker
Effect: allows your mon to use Water Gun as a fifth move, regardless of learnset
Purpose: dunking on Hisuian Arcanine

Guns are for wimps. REAL men get between Quivern and Dragonite and get crushed between their bellies while they sumo wrestle. Better yet, throw in Goodra and Dinossom and have them all do a 4-way belly flop like how the Ninja Turtles do that 4-way shell crush.

Gender doesn't matter. No one has time to worry about that shit when they're getting smothered from all sides by dinosaur and dragon tummies.

Guns and other firearms in Pokémon are a shitty idea. If we want something more dynamic, I’d still prefer to be able to control my Pokémon. If you want guns, just play another video game like Fortnite.

And if we really want to include the trainer as a fighter alongside the Pokémon, I would actually prefer a magic system similar to Fairy Tail, but tied to the 18 types and with lore.

>>59412669
>yet no-one bothers with them because after Gen1 GameFreak decided that guns, militaries and anything related to RL conflicts should no longer exist in the Pokémon universe
ftfy

>>59412664
>>59412675
>If Pokemon exist, guns will not.
And yet, GF specifically included the term "jet fighter planes" in five of Garchomp's dex entries (with ZA's being the most recent one). Not to mention the shown fighter jet >>59412669 is armed. It raises the question why such expensive military aircrafts even exist in the pokeworld, when pokemon could do a better job, like most anons here claim.
>these inventions are due to humanity’s most desired wish to travel in the dimension of Z.
"But we are peaceful explorers, men of science."
"And yet you bring weapons."
"Our weapons allow us to remove ... obstacles we may encounter."

>>59412691
>Guns and other assorted weaponry are irrelevant in the pokémon world, because the pokémon can do a FUCKLOAD more than a 9mm and two clips can.
Anti-Monster rounds and they're relevant again.
>I've no doubt if Pokémon was an american construct, guns would be a vital part of it. But Japan has under 10 shooting incidents a year and just a handful of gun deaths per year, so don't have the great religious worship of firelegs, arms and weapons burgerstans do (which gets reflected in its media outputs).
Meanwhile the OG anime series - a Japanese construct - was full of gun references.

>>59414424
Note that it is not armed with guns. But weapons that cause significantly more damage than any gun.

You are a retarded gun nut.
I am tired of explaining. You will never get guns in this franchise and it doesn’t need them at all. It makes no sense to have them in this universe. Stay angry at this fact.
Do not reply to me. No more energy will be spent on this thread.

>>59414424
You do understand the jet still got bodied by a garchomp, yeah?
In fact, they were added to the lore specifically to make Garchomp more fucking impressive, given the average size of a modern fighter jet falls into a length of 49 to 72 feet (15 to 22 meters), a wingspan of 32 to 48 feet (9 to 15 meters), and a height of 14 to 19 feet (4.5 to 6 meters) and a 6'03" (1.9m) tall beast can outmanoeuvre it, outspeed it and hit harder than any going due to 'Chompy not needing to clip ordinance to its wings to kill shit it may see on the way.
>dick extension faggotry again
Yeah, but there's no need for "anti-monster rounds" as the "monsters" are Pokémon (sentient, sapient, emotionally intelligent beasts who can learn to communicate with humans) as opposed to King Kong, the 50 ft woman or whatever b-movie bullshit merkins think shares the universe with Pokémon. And why waste time, effort, money and human intelligence trying to develop them, when some kid, champion or evil team boss can take it on face-on with their own pocket nuke? People would sooner develop PED's for their pokémon quicker than they'd develop "anti monster rounds", given there's no mindless dangerous beasts like in other monster-drenched franchises. Sounds like you should go play monhun, I think it's got what you need, dick extensions being valid AND mindless beasts to kill everywhere.

>>59414438
>Note that it is not armed with guns. But weapons that cause significantly more damage than any gun.
Does the difference even matter? Guns, missiles, batons, spears ... the common denominator is humans in the pokeworld being canonically and repeatedly shown to engineer, possess and use weapons, that can overpower pokemon. The possibilities are there, and that's the main point.

>>59414534
You know what's funny? There are several other dex entries which only mention "jet planes". We wouldn't have this discussion if GameFreak stuck with that term and didn't added "fighter". It isn't an English mistranslation either, as a couple Japanese dex entries mention 戦闘機 which translates to "fighter jet".
>You do understand the jet still got bodied by a garchomp, yeah?
Sure. Now I wanna see how it competes against a hypersonic missile.

>Yeah, but there's no need for "anti-monster rounds" as the "monsters" are Pokémon (sentient, sapient, emotionally intelligent beasts who can learn to communicate with humans)
Same characteristics apply to humans, and yet we still have anti-infantry ("anti-human") weapons. Sure, it may be justified as humans tend to have evil intentions more often than pokemon canonically do evil Malamars from the anime, but it's from the anime, so.... But in the end, it doesn't matter what your intentions are. If you're a threat and armed, you're a legitimate military target. Pokemon might not be evil ("there are no bad Pokemon, only bad trainers"), but since they'll gladly execute any commands their trainers issue, there's an incentive to have something against them. Not to mention the canon wars in XY (and the one in the Lucario movie) were fought out by pokemon.

>>59414534
>And why waste time, effort, money and human intelligence trying to develop them, when some kid, champion or evil team boss can take it on face-on with their own pocket nuke?
More options at hand. If you can, why not use it? Besides, weapons and pokemon aren't mutually exclusive; they would certainly support each other in joint warfare. On that point, Combat Trainer Classes could be an interesting idea.

>given there's no mindless dangerous beasts like in other monster-drenched franchises
Alpha Pokemon, Ultra Beasts, the Area Zero incident

>more options at hand
What, like the likely thousands upon thousands of other species of pokémon canonically extant in the pokémon world, we just haven't seen as Game Freak haven't made the actual region yet? Again, why need a dick extension, when you can just use one of them. They don't need them, stop trying to force them in.

>>59412664
>superior guns called Pokemon
>If Pokemon exist, guns will not.
Um, dude... Pokemon don't negate the usefulness of firearms in war. Yes, certain pokemon such as psychic types would absolutely be used in real-life conflicts if they existed (though less for their attack power and more for reading minds and stuff), but you should look up antimaterial rifles and other real world military weapons.

Guns can put rounds further downrange, in greater quantity, and with far more efficacy than what most Pokemon are capable of.

Are Dialga and Palkia more powerful than real weapons? Yes, but those are exceptions, not the norm. The existence of Pokemon would not erase firearms.

>dickless wonder still stanning dick extensions
>in a universe full of living, breathing monsters more powerful than any dick extension
I'm pretty sure some pokémon's shells or skin is as hard as diamonds, making anti-material rifles and the like useless, but hey. Whatever allows you to keep thinking with your lack of dick.

>Pokemon adds weapons
>It takes up the equip slot, but the Pokemon gets a fifth Move
>Coconut gun gives Seed Bomb, obsidian blade gives Night Slash, etc.

Honestly doesn't seem like a bad idea.

>not understanding the "equip" slot is the pokémon party
>champions substituting the pokémon for a gun
Go play fortnite kid. Seems more your bent. Or CoD, if you need the realistic stuff to give you stiffies.

>>59412669
The anime really should not be taken as any sort of canon. Tajiri himself said the manga is closer to what he envisioned and it's a lot more grounded.

>>59412262
Why exactly do you need a gun when there are already a bunch of living biogrenades?

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>>59415383
The anime under shudo, where it was confirmed to ignore the games to put whatever she thought was cool in (like featuring a female self-insert so she could pretend to be important), yeah. The anime since she left, where it was in actuality presented closer to the games than a damaged tranny re-litigating her childhood traumas wrote it, no.
Because they deliberately changed it to adhere closer to the universe after Gen 3, when they retconned the entire franchise to be its own universe. And Garchomp being faster than a jet isn't an anime arsepuill. Pay attention when you play the games, but if you're too poor to even do that, shut the fuck up and sit down.

lmao pokemon is Teletubbies tier, girls cant get a clevage in 2026 and new gen are removing skirts lmao

>>59412271
>Pocketpoor suing anyone
Holykekkatooty

>>59415132
>Saaaaar

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>>59416046
>smalldick tranny continues to attempt to legitimise dick extensions in a non-dickless society's media outputs

>>59415393
The idea of mass breeding Voltorbs and Electrodes for the sole purpose of suicide bombing (not to mention their trainers have to consciously give that order) makes regular grenades much more ethical in comparison.

>>59412444
>the line's alt mega is fucking night colors A-10 Warthog WarGreymon

>>59415759
>pokemon spent 40mil on the lolsuit
>only manages to measly get 30k back if they win, they basically didn't do anything lol
so much for a "win" from the delusional retards

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>>59412262
We already have Digimon and Palworld

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Palworld 1.0 Soon
Hope?
Expected?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j34FEuUqXvw

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>>59419371
No idea. I have not looked at anything about it since that one major update in 2024 since I wanted a fresh experience for 1.0. Mostly I just hope base stuff was expanded on but I'm pretty excited either way.

>>59419040
I never got the connection between Palworld and Pokemon. Monster taming games did exist way before Pokemon so that concept alone is not new at all and besides that, there's 0 correlation between them. Even the Pals that allegedly look like Pokemon is a hyuge reach. Palworld is simply Weeb Ark and its strange how people fail to see it, but im not gonna lie making nintendo mad is very much welcome.

>>59419371
Im actually looking forward to it as i only played some of it back in EA so now that its gonna be a complete game, i'll hopefully be getting the best experience. I do wish that there was way less clashing of assets. Having guns and humans that look that realistic along with the cartoon looking Pals is pretty jarring. Im fine with having guns but it would be nice if they looked thematically close to everything else.

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>>59419435
The actual game is obviously nothing like pokemon, but I do feel they were going for a parody angle. Some of the designs are similar-ish to existing pokemon designs, IGN even posted its first trailer as "pokemon-like shooter game".
But I don't think there's anything particularly wrong with that. It does its own thing, just has a funny outer layer. Its only crime was getting popular compared to more literal clones

>>59419472
Yeah exactly, the comparisons are stretching it quite a bit. In fact i remember seeing the game way before it got big and thought "ehh, its some sort of Ark clone, seems like shovelware to me" and man did they prove me wrong. Its always refreshing to see EA titles not be left to rot and actually turn into proper games. Im not huge into survival game autism to make the most grand base or the most optimal assembly lines but i wanna tackle this game in my own pace and make the most of it with for example the PVE stuff that seems pretty fun to do.

>>59414534
>You do understand the jet still got bodied by a garchomp, yeah?
On another note, it's pretty impressive that humans managed to build a machine that almost equals a Garchomp in speed. Not to mention it's a regular F-15, which is just made of regular materials like its RL counterpart. Meaning it doesn't use super-materials or ones enhanced with magical properties that the pokeworld has to offer. So in short, there's so much more potential.

>>59415132
How unfortunate weapon manufacturers only develop one-off weapons and are too inept to adapt these to new challenges to overcome. Not to mention those super-materials again which they wouldn't use to improve their products' properties.

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>>59419665
>not getting it
In-lore, all Game Freak are to create exist. So no, no need to explore "super materials" to build more dick extensions, there's always a powerful super-legendary to fuck with if you want to cow a region under your heel.
Yeah, it's almost as if Game Freak create this shit to highlight how powerful their monsters are, instead of how big a dick extension they need to play with to have delusions of adequacy.
>a troll with a hammer can do more damage to a steel-coated bird than a dick extension can to the same creature
>burgerstan insists people would see a need to make a bigger dick extension as a result
I'd train the trolls to tee off at any cunt that moved, much less any steel coated chickens, because trolls that have the mental capacity to hunt aerial creatures with surface-to-air ordinance consistently successfully are highly intelligent living weapons thus more adaptable, autonomous and independent enough to be used as battle dictated (tinkaton rock vs a jet means the jet's getting badly damaged, because they fuck those rocks HARD and can lead a target as needed). But sure, continue to think a series that has rejected the idea of firethirdlegs outside the early instalment weirdness of the mentally ill writer where he caged off every anime and trope which had gone before him desires, needs or must have dick extensions. Says a shitload more about your self-confidence.

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>>59419816
>a troll with a hammer
>Steel/Fairy
Very poor choice of monster.

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The OP pic is drawn by an Agarthan patriot btw

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>>59420081
Marley would approve the use of guns.

>>59420120
@Sneed, should I redraw this? I feel like I can do it much better now.

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>>59419816
>there's always a powerful super-legendary to fuck with if you want to cow a region under your heel. Yeah, it's almost as if Game Freak create this shit to highlight how powerful their monsters are
Gen4 had the Red Chains which put the literal deities of time and space on a leash. Gen5 had the Plasma Frigate which uses Kyurem as a battery. Gen6 had the Ultimate Weapon since you're so obsessed with dicks, the UW is a giant penis and all other appliances that run on Infinity Energy which use the life energy of pokemon as fuel. The UW being so destructive it can wipe out most pokemon, and the rockets powered by IE also phallus-shaped by the way being stated to be unintentional supernukes. Devon could easily produce Energy weapons if given the incentives. So much for the superiority of pokemon when humans can come up with tools to subjugate them without directly using pokemon in battle.

>But sure, continue to think a series that has rejected the idea of firethirdlegs outside the early instalment weirdness
How come Garchomp's dex mentioning the fighter jets came out 3 Gens after said Early Installment Weirdness and has since been reiterated until ZA (8 Gens later)? Why didn't it get the Indian Elephant treatment? Unless officially disproven, the Military Industrial Complex is canon, and thus guns.
And how come Gen6 was so obsessed with wars, genocide and mankind being superior to pokemon (the Ultimate Weapon and Infinity Energy rockets reducing pokemon to mere batteries / fuel while surpassing most mons in destructive power; the Expansion Suit being an attempt to make humans more powerful for whatever "civil" reason) 5 Gens later? Not to mention the anime depiction of a >>59412669 figher jet as well as other military vehicles (missile submarines and airships) appearing in that period. Quite a lot of coincidences for abandoning anything military-related.

>>59420178
It looks perfect already, but sure, go for it.

>>59420220
To show how OP they really are and how irrelevant they ultimately are. You just listed a rake of shit detailing why they
re so much more powerful, but also ignore to use them, you need to be devoid of the basic tenets of humanity, or be driven mad by grief into doing an abomination of an act.
The world's not shaped to be a mirror image of the real world. That extends to diminishing the power of the weapons humans develop to kill each other in favour of the beasts that roam the lands (with the implied suggestion, they're quite able to kill humans, without they similarly having one for protection). Shit, I can't even remember a hand catapult being shown off and you able to do damage to some cunt with a large enough projectile and high enough tensile strength on the elastic. Because rock throw/slide can do magnitudes MORE that smacking some 'tard in the head with a hand cat.

>>59420539
>how irrelevant they ultimately are
So irrelevant that Az' creations pose a major threat in XY and ZA and thus defining an entire regions history, or Devon's use of Infinity Energy being both a threat at one point (Mossdeep rockets) and a proof that mankind could successfully play God and solve their own problems (if not for Zinnia's sabotage).
>To show how OP they really are
I don't deny that pokemon are powerful or that using them for solving tasks is a preferable option. I'm simply stating that there are canon instances of
A) humans trying to be superior than pokemon (which depending on the case can be either successful or a failure), and
B) war-related concepts existing which lead to the conclusion that anything related to RL wars can exist in the pokeworld.

>but also ignore to use them, you need to be devoid of the basic tenets of humanity, or be driven mad by grief into doing an abomination of an act.
There are enough actors capable of that (Giovanni, Ghetsis, Lysandre, Lusamine). And in some cases, there isn't even a malicious intent present, just either carelessness or indifference (Devon taking the suffering or sacrifice of pokemon into account; (kind of a different topic, but related) Cara Liss being indifferent about creating living abominations, just because she can)

>The world's not shaped to be a mirror image of the real world.
Then GF does a poor job at not referencing RL issues which in the end reflects our world.

>>59421689
What, the things that drew power from all the pokémon in the Kalos region to bring one dead one back to life and the other that overcharged the pokémon in Lumiose to seriously dangerous levels?
Yeah then you look at a dick extension, who's only function is "kill something by kinetic force" and you understand how retarded trying to argue guns in pokémon are. Can your gun revive a dead creature AND give their owner a lifespan extension of 3,000 years? Because the Ultimate Weapon did. Can your gun create an atmosphere where creatures discover a further evolutionary stage beyond normal evolution? 'Cause firing the Ultimate Weapon twice created ALL the Mega stones that now currently exist (and doubtless the energy Ange gave off will undoubtedly be the cause of yet MORE mega forms in-lore when Game Freak inevitably return to the gimmick). But a dickless little boy desperately needs to feel whole and complete and like a man, so needs dick extensions in everything he consumes to feel "correct" even when they utterly reject the concept of their existence.

>>59421921
>dicks, dicks, dicks
I diagnose you with gay.

>who's only function is "kill something by kinetic force"
Factually wrong. Weapons provide deterrence, which can paradoxically save a lot of lives by simply promising violence to anyone daring to attack you. Besides, you are dishonest by comparing apples with oranges, when you compare the UW - essentially an artillery - with infantry weaponry.

>Can your gun revive a dead creature AND give their owner a lifespan extension of 3,000 years?
They surely can't, but then again they also don't require the sacrifice of thousands of lives which you conveniently left out. Which in the end makes it just another tool of destruction, making it no more different than regular weapons.

>Can your gun create an atmosphere where creatures discover a further evolutionary stage beyond normal evolution? 'Cause firing the Ultimate Weapon twice created ALL the Mega stones that now currently exist (and doubtless the energy Ange gave off will undoubtedly be the cause of yet MORE mega forms in-lore when Game Freak inevitably return to the gimmick).
You mean irradiating the surrounding area which is harmful to pokemon by making them suffer and lose their minds? Sure, a nuke could do that too.

>when they utterly reject the concept of their existence.
Why do fighter jets canonically exist in the pokéworld again? Seems like GF also loves dick extensions, and you are a hypocrite by ignoring that fact.

>>59412262
what if the next gen pokemon had a "take no prisoners" approach, and the pokemon went scorched earth on their enemies, ammassing WMDs and conquering terirrories and heavily taxing all of the other pokemon and people in that land?!?!!!!!
AND STARTED WARS WITH NEIGHBORING REGIONS GENOCIDING THE NATIVE RESIDENTS OF THAT LAND!

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>"i diagnose you with gay" says the dickless wonder obsessed with playing with dick extensions in a fantasy world where he could imagine having an actual dick
'Cause that's all a gun is in 90% of the world. A means for them to feel whole, complete, a man. And more than one means even less secure, a bigger gaping hole in his psyche. Soap had it right 18 years ago - guns for show, knives for a pro.

>>59412262
Actually creative guns that are basically trinkets providing an extra attack? sure
NRA sponsored gray barrels and bullets? meh

Next pokemon game shoukd be like grand theft auto but youre a rocket trying to climb the ranks or like knights of the old republic where you join team rocket or help stop them.

>>59412262
What if the next pokemon game had a giant Command and Conquer style alternate history time-war across every age of history since Napoleon Bonaparte fought the Rothschild's Eternatus with Empoleon and Zygarde?

>>59413700
Pokemon battles are 2 wizards using elemntal entities to battle the other.

>>59423283
i like guns.
i like the idea of me being here and hitting a target waaayy over there, off in the distance.
i like hearing that "plink" from me hitting that target.
i like it when i can do it consistently after working on zeroing in my scope.

guns are neat.

i also like my knives, i keep them sharp all the time.
i carry multiple knives on me at all times, 2-3+ at a time.
i like it when my blade just slides into the meat or fruit or veggy without any resistance.
i like it when i can just easily slide through a rope or piece of leather ez.

knives are neat.

i also like my bow, its nice.
i like taking my bow and just going "whoosh" and hitting my target at a short distance.
pulling that string to my cheek and releasing that arrow + hitting that target *kissing sound*, chefs kiss

no need to hate weapons anon, they are all pretty neat in their own way.

knives are peak tho.
i love me my traditional weapons
bows, swords/knives, spears, my favorite, but guns are also nice, though i prefer me a bolt action over a semi/full auto for a relaxing outing, but a semi/full auto has its place too and i can't really disparage their use.

they just werks

>>59423535
>jinx twerking on a totodlie
i dont think its something i want to see...

>>59415759
>Made half a billion off just game sales for a game that was dirt cheap to make
>Poor
Retarded or merely pretending?

>>59416234
Yeah those are the hands I would expect from someone who gets assmad at guns

>>59423726
I'm not mad, I just don't see the point (again, a whole fucking universe with magical elemental monsters to meet, anon wants to play with a penis replacement).
Mind I was raised in the developed world, I understand those raised in third world shitholes tend to hold differing values around needing firelegs.

>>59423707
Political correctness must die for it leaves a scorched earth with the ashes of predictive programming and the dust of the fallen as evidence is deleted to rewrite history as it unfolds.

>>59423751
Same magic universe were even ignoring the anime a guy tanked a fucking dragonites hyper beam? And you don't see the value of being able to quick draw some guy?

>Palword 1.0 is out
later guys

>>59424147
Yeah, humans in the universe aren't humans in ours. Doesn't mean they still can't get knocked the fuck out by repeated blows or even killed as the Raidons prove. Hell, even Cyllene of the Galaxy team says if you don't prove yourself, they will turn you out to the wild to fend for yourself and if you get attacked by pokéon too often, you end up having to be rescued.
Again, almost as if they're continuing to inform their world where dick extensions aren't a critical part of day-to-day life like in your third world shithole. Because guns aren't a crucial factor in Japanese society.

>>59424161
Pretty sure it's just because of the overall sanitization of the series. Purple like yourself should shit and piss off there was a ranger trainer class that carried a rifle

>>59412581
It does have the power to kill a human though

>>59424164
>there was a ranger trainer class that carried a rifle
Sauce? Or which game?

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>>59423283
>"I'm not gay, you are!"
>he retorts, as he continues rambling about dicks
Maybe read through this entire thread again and figure out who was (and still is) obsessed with repeatedly writing about male genitalia, projecting faggot.
Also
>>59423751
>I'm not mad
kek

>>59423707
Wise words.

>>59424147
>>59424161
The answer isn't that humans have super strength, but GF being too cowardly to commit to the grim lore they came up with over the decades and actually show the harsh implied reality. We have all this talk about pokemon being gruesome and something out of a nightmare, not to mention a pokemon being the literal personification of death, and when it actually comes to a climax, it's either a nothinburger or everyone survives and lives happily ever after, or they just "faint" (don't get me started how retarded the explanation for this concept is). For all the edge the manga has, it's at least honest with what it does. Or in the rare case that they actually acknowledge deaths and similar consequences, then it all happens off-screen and it's up to you to imagine a monster, or it's alluded to but never further elaborated upon because we aren't allowed to see the actual consequences. We don't even get to say goodbye to Az because an old man peacefully dying in his bed is already too disturbing for an edgy kids game. Like >>59424164 wrote, it's so sterile that even basic topics like meat consumption must have bullshit about them: It's all artificial meat and no one ever gets hurt because everyone's your friend (best example is how Slowpoke's lore was changed from "Team R is so despicable and evil, they mutilate Slowpokes purely for profit" to "the tails actually fall off by themselves lol"). And then you check dex entries describing the predatory lifestyle of some mons and you come to the logical conclusion that some pokemon must be either murderers, psychopaths or cannibals because GF stated they aren't dumb animals, but sentient and intelligent beings.

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>>59423283
>Soap had it right 18 years ago - guns for show, knives for a pro.
>he actually believes RL combat consists of soldiers switching to knifes in close combat, doing 360 noscopes and teabagging
Yeah no wonder you think lowly of guns, even with the right equipment you wouldn't survive a week in a warzone. There's no respawn.

>Because guns aren't a crucial factor in Japanese society.
And this is how exactly a reason for why a fictional game about fictional monsters mustn't have guns in them? Need a reminder that the first entry of this entire game series introduces a gym leader who is a war veteran, who just casually mentions a (modern) war for no reason?

palworld won

>>59426779
>every pal is useful, even Cattiva now
pokemon should do the same

>>59426779
How so?

The guns are the worst part about palworld.

>59426179
>mind immediately jumps to war and historical fantasies than deal with any kind of real-world scenario
>>59428384
Yes, but it's been proven americans lose interest in something without constant talk of guns. That's why they're all over "pokémon with guns" and why they're trying to gaslight the rest of the world into thinking it's good.

>>59428394
What fantasies? Violence and war is what real-world scenarios usually devolve into when diplomacy and peace fails.

>>59428384
but they are the best
nothing more rewarding than shotgun blasting a pal in the face
things are very boring while you are at crossbow and lower tier
muskets is when the game starts getting epic

>>59423283
1/3
>'Cause that's all a gun is in 90% of the world. A means for them to feel whole, complete, a man. And more than one means even less secure, a bigger gaping hole in his psyche.
Let's go along with your ignorant point and say men with guns aren't men, because they substitute the lack of qualities a man should have with a tool of destruction. I can still use a bow, right? But isn't a bow also just a tool cowards use? After all, you never really face the enemy you kill, when the arrow you launch from a distance strikes the enemy from afar. So isn't an archer also a pathetic excuse of a man? Fine, no bows as well. At least I still can use a sword. But hold on, you rely on a piece of metal to slay down your opponent. If you were a men, couldn't you just do that with you bare hands? Don't you feel manly enough to do it by yourself? And so it turns out that even a rock would make you look pathetic, as it's not you, the man, who kills another, but your reliance on the tool you use that does the work. If you use ANY tool really, then anyone without them can simply claim you aren't a man, because you put your faith in this tool, and not in yourself. Therefore, what must truly make a man is himself and his body.

Now go fight a bear or a pack of wolves with the sheer force of your fists. If you die, you die. If you survive, you'll realistically also die later, either by your injuries or your self-sustained disability to never fight again, which in the wild equals death. As it turns our, these opponents are better than you in every way possible. But the goal is survival, how do you win? The answer is simple, you don't. Because if you look at humans as just another animal species amongst others, then they are mediocre. Their bodies lack any defining traits that would make them superior to other predators, who could easily tear through their human bodies. Their bodies were gifted by evolution to kill more effectively.

>>59430109
2/3
And with that, there's no other option for the human left than to go extinct, if it wasn't for another defining trait that allowed the species of homo sapiens to become the ruler over creation. Intellect is what gave humans power, giving them the insight to learn from the world and shape it to their advantage. But not without a very crucial element, whose importance only a few species have grasped. It's the tool. A foreign body not part of their body. If not for the tool, humans would still dwell high up the trees or inside caves and be hunted by those naturally more gifted. It's the combination of the tool and those who wield it that grants them power surpassing anything nature could ever come up with. But that's not all. A tool can evolve, becoming something even more capable than anything before it. Bestowing humans with even more power. The first ever tool was the rock. Then came the sword, the bow and as of now the gun.

To return to your complaint, my dick-obsessed fellow, that a man with a gun is just an excuse of a man, it's not true. Because if you stick to your claim, then replacing the gun with a bow or a sword or a rock wouldn't change the fact that a man could still be blamed to be weak, as he relies on those tools to be who he is. But as I tried to point out, humans are physically weak by nature, and it's understanding this weakness that allowed humans to rise to power by using tools. A man without a tool is just an animal. But combined, he becomes a man.

Getting back to pokemon, you claim guns, or generally speaking anything humans could make, would be useless against pokemon, because they would be superior in any way possible. But what really is a pokemon to a man if not another challenge to overcome? If not another predator gifted by nature? Like with everything that came before, humans will find new tools that allows them to best the next challenge, because that's what humans do, did and will do, finding better tools.

>>59430111
3/3
But here's a catch. What is a pokemon also to a man? A tool as well! Not as a mindless object, but a being full of potential. Because as we know of the games and the franchise as a whole, humans and pokemon work together, not because they find each other sympathetic, but because pokemon strive to become better and more powerful. And especially because they know a man can bring their powers to their fullest potential, they accept their role as a tool. It's a symbiotic relationship that benefits the man who has an arsenal of powerful tools at his disposal, and the pokemon who as a tool of its master becomes more than it could be on its own.

So what this debate really is about is how a pokemon is perceived. Is it a tool, or a challenge to overcome? Because to a man, a pokemon and a gun (or weapon in general) are one and the same. Alone there are none, together they're more. There is no difference as they both serve the same purpose. And so I claim that guns can and will exist in the world of pokemon, if men declare pokemon a challenge they want to overcome. If the goal is to make the union of man and gun better than pokemon, then it will be, as long as willing men try.