Passing Through Edition>I want to learn the game, where do I begin?Download PTCGL at https://tcg.pokemon.com/en-us/tcglThe game has a quick tutorial and a bunch of decent decks to get you started against other beginners or against the AI. Some of those decks are very close to meta too. You can also go to your local game store and see if people are playing Pokémon.>I know how to play, how do I make my own deck?You have a decent beginner's guide at https://www.justinbasil.com/guideThere's also the old /tcg/ guide at https://imgur.com/a/W4NkOu6After that, look up meta decks and try to reverse engineer them to see how things work.>Where to find meta decks?For big irl events, go to https://limitlesstcg.com/decksFor online events, go to https://play.limitlesstcg.com/decks?game=PTCGFor japanese events, go to https://pokecabook.com/archives/1417Previous thread: >>59394188Old /tcg/ pastebin: https://pastebin.com/Ge95YuMA
First for Marnie's deck being an underrated powerhouse!
>>59420643i had fun playing at a local event for the first time. People were so helpful in person and actually taught me how to play the game. Unlike /vp/.
>>59420763It's a fucking children's game and you have the entirety of the op to help you. I feel bad for you opponents that you think that's not enough.
>>59420763Why would you go to a tournament without knowing how to play the game first?
>>59420763retard, fuck off
>>59420854>>59420864Jeetfags your bots aggression levels are way too low. If I can't ask how to play the game and get a 1 paragraph rundown then they are spewing gibberish.
hand holders need their hands chopped so they can't play the game anymore
You retards can just say you suck ass at meeting new people. People IRL were actually nice and pleasant to play the game with unlike you bots.
>>59420893>You're just big meanies! I can't help it if I don't know how to do anything by myself.I can see why you'd enjoy the company of Pokemon players. You seem like the type.
>>59420946>the bot says this in the general about playing the card game
Why are you guys arguing what's the pointLets talk about pitch black
>>59420986Abyss Eye sounds so much cooler.
>>59420986I went to the pre release and people were actually pulling the SIRs. I think that they are making them more common and pullable to try and limit scalping.
>>59420986Set sucks. Dragapult will drop in usage for a week or two while people try ghost veil only to realize actually dragapult doesn't care about this shit Now what to discuss
>>59420995This is me when I go to my local prereleasesand I'm the one that always dodges pulling the SIRs...
you can't fucking discuss the game or cards in this shitty threadsure it has some good players but the stupid bots are a vocal majority
>you are a bot if you don't support hand holdingCool. beep boop fuck off then, lmao
>>59420986We got fucking robbed. "Hide and sneak" sounds too reddit, ghost veil is a lot cooler and that's how I will call it regardless.
>discussing the game is hand holding>discussing strats and matchups is hand holdingok nerd you don't even play
>>59421149Amp you very much is still the most retarded translation we got
>>59421162Gottuan Purify sounds cool but I guess they really needed a fully english name. Grateful Death sounds better.
>>59421162I don't think I ever said the full name during a game the whole time the card was legal. It was always just "Amp for knock out"
>>59421149Where did ghost veil came from? Pokecabook is calling it ghostly camouflage.
>>59421721It's a translation choice, just like what Pokeka is using. The ability name Bakegakure combines obake/ghost and kakure/hidden, but it can be read as "hidden/concealed/disguised ghost". Hide and Sneak sucks because it drops half of the meaning to force a hide and seek pun.
>trusting English translators to do anything but force reddit memes
>>59421339There is one redditor in the TL office fucking doing this shit and the TPC has to give him small wins or else he will sue for discrimination.
>>59422121NO FUCKING WAY THIS IS REALAnd here I was thinking on building that all-out meme deck.
>>59422121It's a clever pun that works with the effect of the attack. It's always been a game for kids, get over yourself.
>>59422466
>>59422466Even hearthstone which is a literal kids game doesn't name things that cringe
>There's nothing wrong with this. It's for kids, get over yourself.
>>59422679LOL
>>59422641All slang comes from whatever media the public consumes, it's not a new thing.
>>59422679I still don't know why people think 70x their bench is bad. they'll say but the opponent wont bench, then proceed to glaze how broken rayquaza is despite needing to fill it's bench with nonsense just to get energy
>>59422697your opponent having an empty bench is almost never happening in this format anyways with how important it is to find lillie
>>59422697It's dependant on the skill of the opponent. A smart player can play a slower game to have less bench space. This card looks good as a secondary attacker for late game, but when you're wanting to hit 300hp on average leaving that up to your opponent is rough.
>>59422466It's not a game for kids, it's a game for all ages.
>>59422697Rayquaza is worse, tho.
I run a 61 card deck at locals
>>59422874I know this guy who claims he can tell what exactly 60 cards feels like in his hand, so he always knows if someone is running more or less just by touch because he's just ~so experienced~ with card games.
>>59423076I think that's bullshit, how the fuck would he account for different sleeve thickness?
>>59423090He's an autist who thinks he's better than everyone else.
>>59422874>play in a prerelease where you get more packs for placement>Get no really good cards, decide to add an extra card since nobody checks prerelease decks>finish 2-2, because of course everybody got something good/better decks>didn't even use the extra card
https://community.pokemon.com/en-us/discussion/24858/version-1-40-0-patch-noteshttps://community.pokemon.com/en-us/discussion/24855/get-acquainted-with-the-enhanced-deck-editor-experience-in-pokemon-tcg-live>More deck editing features>Still no way to pick which rarity is importedhttps://community.pokemon.com/en-us/discussion/24857/letter-to-the-community-july-9-2026>Darkrai and chandelure are the free decks>GLC is back>Next ladder reset is extended because lolno new sets till sept
>glc
congrats, your gatekeeping was success. i will not be joining this thread.
>>59423231Doesn't sound like this was the place for you anyway. I'm sure you'll find a nice tranny at locals to help you learn how to play, they're a dime a dozen in this game community.
>>59423231Thank Arceus
>>59422712
>mega golisiopod does 220 for 1 and probably has shred on its 2nd attack>wishiwashi big hp >another two piece meme stadium except for water
Healing might be a meme but that is a LOT of healing.
Oishii Jelly donuts
>More filler>The best card is ironically the punishing scissors scizor reprint in cacturne Even when we do get the 2027 meta will they ever print any good cards to change the meta each expansion afterwards? Because with how bad these cards are I'm not hopeful for the future
>>59423761>probably has shred on its 2nd attackits a clutch
the next stadium will clearly be some volcano so what cool but useless effect should it have?>burned pokemon deal 70 less damage to the opponent's active pokemon
>>59423789Another attacker for Arboliva lol
>>59423858>First one halves prize cards>Second one doubles damageWatch the volcano just quadruple burn counters
>>59423789Nerfing megas already.
>>59423789>Custom VestJust give up and start phasing out Megas already, this has been a failed run. Start making the next version of VStars or something so we can get some good cards.
>tfw you see a shark, a fox, or some hairy goblin
>>59423789MEGAKANGASKHANBROS WE ARE GETTING FUCKING INVINCIBLE.
>>59423781If it was at least 40 instead of 30 it would be usable.
Does Massive Bloom heal opp for 50 HP when Vileplume is down to 10 HP?
>>59424159no
>>59424159Negative damage just doesn't make sense, think about it logically. Vileplume loses its capacity to do damage the more it gets hurt, past a certain point it is just unable to do any damage.It's like traveling negative distance, it just doesn't exist.
>>59422121can't wait for the next Mimikyu card whose ability is called Sussy Impostor
>>59423789>>59424074>Was excited for malamar>Ogrepon and all the grass stuff rotates next year>Grass weakness is a good thing now->Cacturne just stabs malamar nowAlso fucking RIP cynthias garchomp>Gabites and roserade ability spam>Grass weakness>N's zoroark just auto loses because they all have abilities
>people already happy grass stuff is leaving when the type has just now become relevant (not even t1 or t2 lol) for the first time in over half a decadealright I guess
>>59424404Dark type abusers are not people.
>wailord ex with 380 hp>misty can attach 4 energy to it at the end of turn>jumbo ice cream + new stadium heals 160 hp in one go>the new onigiri card has heals ramping up to 240 by the end>poke vital a exists if you're insane enough>if you want to attack bubbly water energy means you can swing for 270 every turn (but you can probably secure wins just from deckout)Its 2015 Worlds all over again
>>59424487I see a playable WailordI play WailordSimple ass
>Singlehandedly makes double stadiums viableAPOLOGIZE
>>59424384Zekrom and Darmanitan dont, but yeah usually Zoro will have like 3 Zoros and a Munkidori or Pecharunt in the bench, which is the magic number to take 210x2 from Cacturne.RIPGarchomp could survive a hit if they got their tool in and 3 Roserades, a second Garchomp and a Spiritomb in play, so theres only 160x2.
>>59424404The problem is that pretty much EVERY SINGLE dark deck gets shafted because of that. They could give them different weaknesses but ITS ALL GRASS, FUCK THIS.
>>59425159the best dark card in the game rn doesnt have grass weakness btwmeanwhile every grass card is weak to fire which is an eternally more relevant type lol
>>59425168>"It's okay, Dragapult's Moltres/Blaziken will take care of all the Grass stuff for me. I can play my Grass-weak deck and not worry about it.">tournament run gets ended by a random Cacturn
>>59425083also consider next year the only way to find a stadium will be petrel and this, i would say this is the "will be great in 2028" card of the set.
>>59425083but none of the double stadiums are any good? if there was a way to lock stadiums in play it would matter but everyone had 2-3 stadiums they can easily bump it with
Dhelmise
>>59425168>the best dark card in the game rn doesnt have grass weakness btwmega sharpedo totally does
>>59425168He said dark decks, clearly, which all get fucked by grass.
>dark deck>a deck that hasn't been on the list in two weeksnobody is playing your fucking slop deck anymore, chud. fuck off
>>59425395Double healing seems fine with Wailord
>>59425562The FA for this is cute>Has all the other ghost veil mons in the backgroundWish the competitive cards got FAs more often. We went through the entire grimsnarll meta without one and when it finally got one it was over
>>59425883It's also in ASC which makes it ridiculously expensive for no reason. I wish there wasn't a Partner Pokemon Tax so we could at least get an IR for each stage done by the same artist ala Pult.
Is Excadrill going to be worth building? I still have a playset of Metang from the prerelease it was in.
>>59426121None of the Japanese slop makes any sense. Ghost Veil should play into Pult without issues.
>>59426121It looks like trash so I'm going to say no
>>59420643Just had my worst pre release to date>slowbro>no usable card in the boosters>lost 8 double 50/50 on draw4turn/tower discards and finished 33rd out of 33 with 0:5
>>59426135Naturally you have to adjust for local meta. Pokemon is pretty much a coin toss so if there are a gazillion pult players it would also have that much representation in top cuts. Guess japs just like to stick to the old reliable. Personally in my area most people got tired of dragapult so now they are a minority that doesn't dominate top cuts.
Man, I went to a prerelease tourney today because I missed last week's for fourth of July but it turns out it was on Friday at 11 PM.Who hosts a tourney during work hours on a weekday?
>>59426135they're also incredibly bad at the gamethat's something to remember
>You have a good deck, but that's only half the battleProbably since only half of your matches are supposed to be playable and the other half are automatic losses.
>>59426516ur storelml
>3 dragons from discard pile to benchwith dragapult gone what is this supposed to do for you? get 3 sheldon in play? 3 dragonair?
>>59426579If you won every match then it would get boring, no?
>>59426708yeah playing>you brick>then I brick>then you brick>then I brickis much more engaging
>>59426711It's a card game anon, it's the same for every other card game. In mtg you can get land screwed, in yugioh you can open with no handtraps or whatever. That's just how it is, there is a variant of luck in randomness. Maybe chess is more to your liking?
>>59425395>>59425680Healing 300 per turn is also fine for a caped jellicent pre-rotation.
>>59426708No? The whole point of playing a competitive game is to win.
>>59426245somehow my 50% win rate with miraidon wasnt too bad.
>>59426516>11pm>work hoursThe world doesn't revolve around your night shift, anon. That's not considered work hours.
>>59426847i got bodied by 2 miraidons that both had 0 wins before facing meboth times i got a great start with 3 slowbro turn 2 and flollowed it up with 2 knockouts on their midaidons but then flatlined against their vikavolt and could never get rid of my hand for the rest of the game
>>59426891>>59426245i forgot the worst parta guy (my age) was there with his wife and kid, the wife and daughter sat with the dad, they opened the boosters together and after a while the wife said i love you but i can i go somewhere elseill die alonepokemon cards
Bring back the lost zone
no
>30th anniversary set has a new gengar ex>they gave it fainting spell againMega Gengar on the bench to limit the prize cards taken then force your opponent to coinflip through as many Fainting Spell Gengars as you can put out
>>59427104I was just happy that the other single guys actually talked with me and I stuck with them for most of the time. Im going to another one soon hoping to pull the darkrai SIR. The ones who brought a GF or their wife and kids were kind of rude but the dad did show me how to play the game better and pointed out that rare candy lets you skip right to stage 2 pokemon. He just spammed all the gywnn cards he pulled with his dhelmise deck the entire time and just controlled the board with an unlimited hand.
wtf bro
>>59425652>>dark deck>>a deck that hasn't been on the list in two weeksYou know why, genius? BECAUSE GRASS FUCKS ALL DARK DECKS IN ROTATION
>>59427548>20 hours later
>>59427581you got owned 20 hours later, yeah
>Summon 3 dragons from discard pile to bench>240 for 2 energy but have to discard 2 or 3 cards from the top of your deckIs the 30th celebration Salamence EX playable?
30th celebrations isn't saving us from dragapult meta huh..>Neither is storm emeraldaIt's actually over...
>>59427711Not really, there's no good support dragons, or even attackers really. Dragapult is the only good one and that wants to evolve from drakloaks anywayhttps://pkmncards.com/?s=color%3Adragon&sort=date&ord=auto&display=images
GODapult...
>>59427735Why do some of them have the stamp on the other side? Just makes it worse than it already was.
>>59427845They put them on the left side sometimes if the stamp would cover part of the artwork.Like here, putting it on the right would block that Clefairy's whole face, but the one of the left is already partially out of frame anyway, so they put it on the left instead.
>>59427982this is the worst offender
>>59427995Never forget
>>59420643I'd really like to play GLC, because FUCK Rule-Boxes, but mono typing is clearly destroying the format. All the stuff I'm seeing is that Psychic is dominating tournaments, because Psychic always gets the best abilities, and their are tons of unsuable pokemon, including fan favorites, because they change type when evolving. Just call it "Champion's Challenge" (since they have multi-type teams) and drop mono-typing.
>>59429098no, fuck your eevees
>>59429098Even in a format without ruleboxes there would eventually become a metaThe only way to stop a meta settling is continuing to ban/unban cards similar to league doing nerfs/buffs to champsThe easiest way of doing there here would be a yugioh style format of only allowing certain sets.
>>59429098>"I'd really like to play GLC">but it should completely change how it's played to suit mePlay a different game, this isn't for you.
>>59429098I also like the idea but am not 100% sold into how the rules are. You're free to try anything different, theres no no-fun police stopping your.Im thinking that just like the low tier precon decks have one EX (houndoom, melmetal, mewtwo...), it could be interesting to allow one EX but wont let it be searcheable, as in "you cant ultraball for it", unless the opponent has theirs in play. 2 prizers only (so no megas). Maybe increase the prizes taken from it to 3? Maybe make it they always discard their energies when they attack? They'd need a handicap for sure.Allowing a mega pokemon that gives 4 prizes instead of 3 would be a no-go tho.
>>59429348Bruh, thats literally what GLC is. "I dont like TPCI rules so I made my own game within their game".
>>59429479how is it it's own game if the mechanics are the same? A few limiters =/= new game
>>59429473So your super simple set of rules that anyone can follow is>BW-on>singleton>monotype>no ruleboxes>GLC banlist>exactly one rulebox pokemon allowed>the rulebox pokemon is not considered a pokemon while not in play, unless there is another rulebox pokemon in play>a rulebox pokemon is worth one more prize>a rulebox pokemon must discard all attached cards after attackingSweet and concise.
>>59429558Yeah something like that. Trial and error, if the game is not interesting just try different rules.With my family of newbies using bad precons I adapted a few decks to be closer to that, but allowing multiple copies of cards, just not high-powered ones. It kinda matches theirs in power level with one EX and monotype.
>>59429479Yeah, and you don't like that either. What you're saying would be like showing up to a SUM-LOT tournament and saying "Yeah, but I don't like this format. You should let me play the cards I want to play."
I just came back from my LCS and we played a similar format>30 card decks >2 of each card except basic energy>1 rulebox pokemon>1 ace spec>3 prize cards, bo1It was something fun and new that encouraged single prizers
>>59423789There is a support wishiwashi for post-rotation, assuming no spread deck is remotely playable that kills the little 30hp fish.
>>59429826>First one to attacks and keep up the 1-1-1-1-1-1 prize race wins>Also all the bricking with no meowth/latiasSounds retarded.
I really like Cinderace. I think he is "cool".
>>59430034Shame leakers wont ever show the normal cards. Just the collector shit
>go to my locals for prerelease>get Bastiodon, what I wanted>pull Mega Zeraora and IL Dhelmise>can't use them>go 2-1>pull SIR Mega Zeraora>finally get a good card after all these prereleases>play in a booster pack draft>get Miraidon, it's dog shit>pull Lurantis and FA Brave Bangle>get passed a Wailord as the passer pulled 2 cards>go 2-3>get a prize pack as I didn't finish top 3meh, today was a good dayhope you enjoyed my blog!
