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It's that time of the week.

Post all of your Serenas and Y's here.

Previous thread: >>59413958
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>>59428826
https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=TChMjQWYT0oFU3oI&v=TKnV8EqAQaM&feature=youtu.be

I was looking for some really expressive footage of Serena talking in Japanese and this is probably the best scene I got.
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This is my pitch on 15 year old Serena's character for the anime & how to improve her -

-- Suggestion : Make Serena more lively , playful, optimistic , sassy & genki like an actual idol.
-- Con : Its overlaps too much with Dawn's character. Must make Serena stand out as her own character.
-- Solution : Lets wrote different type of optimism for Serena.
-- Question: Such As ?
-- Suggestion: Write her more like a mature playful & overly affectionate Onee-san archetype.with "Ara Ara' pose. Basically Masters Serena with more optimism.
-- Question : What about her dynamic with Ash.
-- Suggestion : Lets throw out everything from XY/XY&Z series as current Ash & later Ash were nothing like XY Ash. Instead rewrite Ash & Serena's dynamic from scratch.
-- Question : How so?
-- Suggestion : Serena loves Ash but will not fidget and act shy around him. Instead her character goes the opposite route where she openly flirt with Ash & makes no attempt to hide her feeling to the point of making Ash self conscious and uncomfortable.
-- Question : Wouldn't fans find it unnatural?
-- Solution : Lets say that when Serena kissed Ash, she lost all her shyness around & find no reason to hide her feeling anymore.
-- Question : How would Ash react to it?
-- Suggestion : He will get self conscious, annoyed , embarrassed and roast her. He will revert back to his old self from AG/DP series and stop treating Serena like a Princess & treat her like his previous female companions.
-- Question : Would fans like it?
-- Suggestion: Well , making Ash self conscious is the only way to escape being friendzoned by him..
-- Question : What about her character design?
-- Suggestion : Neo Champion ponytail with sideswept, glasses , F or J cup bust & mole underneath the lip
-- Question : How does she suddenly gets mole underneath her lips?.
-- Solution : Character customization & people can develop new moles until they reach 40.

The pic are example for the archetype that I think Serena should follow.
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>>59428826
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>>59428935
jeet babble
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>>59428935
Maybe the changes you propose both for Ash and Serena are a bit too fast.

Yeah sometimes characters do hit sudden changepoints but you have to really elaborate and verbalize the phase of personality transformation a lot, keeping the actual canon events of the show (both in English and Japanese) in mind to make an educated guess of how a Pokemon anime character would reach that sort of attitude so it would feel like a natural development and not an OOC twist.

Making Ash romantically self conscious, in the context of the ashnime, means to revitalize his romantic attitude from episode 9 of Indigo League, the one with Giselle. Basically Ash hitting up on girls would be him awkwardly copying Brock's pickup lines. This is literally what happens in the actual show the only instant it addresses Ash's proactive romantic behavior.

Serena promises to literally become a more attractive girl in the last XYZ episodes, so you could play into that.

My personal vision of how this could actually happen?

I would do a flashback of Ash telling the XY crew about Giselle and getting dreamy for a second, Serena visits Pokemon Tech l, meets Giselle and takes notes on her attitude and uses that info to replicate her self presentation to Ash.

It's a bit hard for me to imagine Serena going full mode school queen style naturally so she'd probably be internally a bit awkward about it but if by doing that Serena could get Ash's attention for real then I bet she'd go for it.

So we would have this neat scene of Serena tryharding the Giselle appeal in a sorta ironic but not really way and it actually having effect on Ash, and Ash awkwardly using Brock-style pickup lines on Serena also semi ironically but with a bit more genuine subtext.
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Y-chan kabedon
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>>59429009
Most beautiful creature in all of Creation.
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>>59428974
P.S. here's the scene in question.

Maybe somebody with AI tools can put Serena into the Pokemon Tech girl uniform just to get a better vibe of how this would realistically go over.

Also maybe try imagining Serena doing her introduction Giselle style, considering how it would overlap with Serena's personality.
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>>59428964
MY FUARKING HEROES
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>>59429043
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep3P6LIIP74&pp=iggCQAE%3D

>>59429009
Yeah this pic kinda gets the vibe I was going for.

Now we just need to imagine Ash doing the pickup lines for Serena in the top student girl style. It's already been done once by OLM so we got the references.
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1/5
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2/5
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3/5
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>>59429056
4/5
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>>59429053
Serenabutt
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5/5
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>>59429056
This panel in particular ideally gets the vibe I'm imagining. Serena getting a bit bossy but not over the top.

>>59429062
The overall vibe of the manga is good but I feel like on the last page(5/5) the way Ash flirts back is a bit too confident. From what we see in the show, it would probably be something more along the lines of Ash copying Brock's cringy but sincere compliments where Ash would start praising Serena's looks and attitude in a kinda sticky way
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>>59429092
Like, instead of Ash saying "俺マサラのサトシだぜ" (I'm Ash from Pallet town) the dialogue on page 5/5 would be more like Ash saying:

ふふふ、ね、セレナ。あのさ。今日のスタイルが本当にいいぜ。それに、ちゃんとわからなくても、足がちょっと暖かくて。。。

(Hmm...um, Serena. So, uh. You're looking really nice today. I'm not really sure but are your legs warm...)

Serena replies: ちょっとね。 (just a little)

Well if I'd write the dialogue with my shipping vision in mind I'd write it like that. Making Ash's flirting more Brock styled like in the show.
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>>59429053
Do you guys prefer Serena as a boobs girl or a butt girl?
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>>59429161
Both...
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>>59428826
Eevee is going to rape her.
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>>59429256
Can't use AC because the noise will startle the random Pokemon that took over entire neighborhoods.
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>>59429161
Boobs. I love her butt too, but buttposting always leads to analfags showing up, and Serena's not an anal girl, so I want to keep them away.
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If anyone cares, the English VA for Serena is doing an event in Los Angeles at the Grammy Museum on July 21. The event's currently sold out, but I managed to get a ticket. Since cameras and recording in general are prohibited, I'll try to post anything notable if there's a Q&A.
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>>59429901
Noice
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Green > Serena.
>>59429043
There's just something about kanto women that is perfection.
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>>59429976
Nope
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>>59430548
I thought Kalos and Galar hated each other ever since the hundred years war
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>>59429011
More Y-chan
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>>59428826
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>>59428942
That bitch is really hot but she doesn't look like serena at all.
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>>59429161
Boobs, she's a white girl butts are brown/Black coded
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>>59429442
Serena is french, she loves anal
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>>59429976
Stop shitting pokegirls threads greenfag
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>>59431368
Serena has never and will never engage in buttstuff, pervert. The thought of anything other than breeding has never crossed her mind.
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>>59428935
P.S.
Giselleguy here. Just wanna add a comment on the picture. The only girl I really understand from the picture is Alice from Bakugan. But Alice is basically Koharu from Journeys.

My personal vision is that a girl who could really melt Ash's density down should be graceful and dignified, yes, I do agree with that.

I just think that, based on the actual show, such a girl should also be able to combine that grace and dignity with sassy appeal, being a bit of a showoff maybe. But the performance has got to be spicy to get through to Ash. Just like Giselle.

However all fan interpretations are equally valid, I actually might be the one missing something crucial. That's why I enjoy discussions like these, seeing all the different opinions on the Pokemon anime gives us a really deep understanding of the show's heart.
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>>59430340
Giselleguy here.
Awesome pic. Saved for research purposes if you know what I mean.

I appreciate the school uniform. Thanks.
I like how you added the sweatdrop since it makes Serena's personality more realistic, even a top girl doing the Giselle style would still have a wide range of emotional reactions. It makes her feel alive.

Yeah continuing with my fanfiction theory here.

This pic really gets the vibe I'm going for with Serena as this sassy yet elegant girl.

Serena's already elegant so the real issue here is how to make her a bit more intimidating while still keeping her character real.

How exactly could Serena get that superconfident appeal while still being in character?

Well the answer is kinda obvious: assuming she'd be familiar with Giselle she'd realize that she'd need to strike that fragile balance between elegance and sass to get Ash aroused. She'd have Miette and Giselle as references for her self presentation strategy.

She'd realize that the reason Miette couldn't get through to Ash is because Miette was overdoing the showoff thing a little bit without backing it up with enough careful elegance. Giselle respectively, managed to balance it perfectly so that even Ash would react.

So one hand, we have Serena's natural graceful behavior, Miette's extra sassy behavior and Giselle's perfect balance of both grace and sass.

So Serena would try to adopt both Miette's and Giselle's behavior quirks adapting them to her personal style in order to achieve the ideal Ash girl image.
She is striving to become a more attractive girl when she meets Ash after all.

All while balancing it out with her own dignified personality.

I'd fill in the text gaps in this picture with this speech for Serena:

ね,サトシ。 カロス地方一のパフォーマーってわかるかも?もちろん、セレナというとある女の子だから。ね、こっちおいでよ。制服はどうかな?魅力的しかありえないわよ。
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>>59431699
>ね,サトシ。 カロス地方一のパフォーマーってわかるかも?もちろん、セレナというとある女の子だから。ね、こっちおいでよ。制服はどうかな?魅力的しかありえないわよ。

Translation:
"Hey, Ash. Do you know who's Kalos's top performer? It's definitely this certain girl called Serena. Come a bit closer now. What do you think about my school uniform? Can't say it's anything less than gorgeous."

ALSO if we want to stay true to the show, Serena should have her short haircut. Just like it is in canon.
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Shit reads like chatgpt output



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